Why you should stop shooting video in 16:9 aspect ratio
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- čas přidán 14. 07. 2022
- In this video, we will go over the difference between 4:3 and 16:9 aspect ratio when shooting video. We cover the benefits of shooting in 4:3 for social media and why it’s been such an important feature for our workflow. We will show examples of each format to clearly illustrate the differences and benefits.
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I struggle with instagram being a trash toxic platform. Tired of seeing artists selling their soul for click bait nonsense.
Instagram is going down soon
@@valentinesgiftshop799 doubt
So what do you want then, sweetcheeks 🥴
Glad I quit when I did then
@@cine-ish may be hard, but unless they start paying creators they will have a hard time growing.. With all the competition from tik tok
I'm 70 years old and have been a professional video producer for over half my life. I wouldn't be doing it this long if I didn't care deeply about how I do what I do and the impact I want it to have on my audience.
I can see that you care about the quality of what you shoot and produce because your videos are excellent and in this video you are referring to the high-resolution capabilities of each of these crops, but most ends up on a phone anyway for the most part doesn't it? If I am missing something clearly obvious, please educate me.
Even though I value my smartphone a lot, it isn't part of everything I do. I use social media sparingly because I do not want to be a Slave to this device. I use it for what I want it to do to serve me and then I put it down. I don't walk into doors and other people because I am stupidly staring down at it as I am moving through life. This is probably a funny old guy comment, but I get extremely annoyed when I see a vertical video on a TV or a computer or laptop screen. Having all that wasted real estate visually on the sides of a vertical image just pisses me off. Once again an old guy who doesn't want to watch important things on a phone if there's a larger screen elsewhere.
This isn't about filming everything exclusively vertical though! The point being made is that there are audiences on both vertical and horizontal platforms. The feature Chris is talking about means he can continue on making the content he likes for CZcams (on other 16:9 platforms), and with minimal effort adapt that content to vertical platforms, as opposed to putting in the labour to shoot specifically for it.
I understand the reluctance to embrace vertical video, I am very much the same, but this video shows a way to continue to shoot landscape friendly content and embrace the other platforms with the least effort possible!
This comment fucking rules.
Larry, I agree completely. I hate seeing really important news videos taken in vertical format, losing much of the important context.
@@EdwardKilner When you know that they were shot 16x9.
Agreed. We have to shoot for lazy. Cause those that do are rewarded for it. I just wish FB/IG did not have so many uploading issues. Such a pain to get these working right. I'd much rather shoot for CZcams.
It's a good strategy for cropping in post, but I think trying to be on all of the platforms all the time is a losing strategy both mentally and content-quality wise. To any aspiring creators, I say work hard at one platform and then later go for another one. Don't let the platform control you and don't feel the need to be everywhere all the time. Your family would like to see you a bit lol. Or wait for an offer from one of those new cutting companies to plaster cuts from their editors on every platform.
YES! This is it, focus on the one important, for you, platform and afterwards fx. Take the same video and do the other platform in another version. Double post work but saves time in the other stages
But even if you "wait for an offer from one of those new cutting companies", wouldn't it still be better if you shot with the aspect ratios suggested in this video?
Also, even in your advice of "work hard at one platform and then later go for another one" still be better done using the suggestions in this video?
And what if there's content creators who have a team for this?
well said, hats off!
I agree with this to an extent, but if it's easy (i.e. you're not editing 8x per video) then why not hit them all? The author literally addresses this in the video.
It doesn't even have to be because you want to partake in multiple platforms. IG in itself has multiple aspect ratios in stories or in post
The interesting thing here is you are ignoring that aspect ratio is a style/character/emotion for anything you film. Something that is intended for 16:9 will not have the emotion in 9:16. Even if you shoot it in 4:3, it will have the emotion for 4:3 and won’t translate to 16:9 and 9:16. Its not possible to set design, act the same, move the same, etc in 16:9 and 9:16. Here is where I challenge the entire thing: Created content for CZcams should different, completely, than content for TikTok, Stories, Reels, etc. They have different audiences with different retention, expectation, and frankly their purpose for watching. Make videos specifically for your audience on each platform. There is no one size fits all. If there was, there would be no other platforms. And believe me, I struggle with this a ton. I’d love a much larger audience and I try putting videos everywhere but in the end, I focus my video efforts for CZcams because the audience has a longer expiration date. Anything “shorts” or anything intended to be viewed on a phone by scrolling will never retain an audience. You’re only as good as your frequency and quality of uploads. CZcams has similar issues but a CZcams viewer is more forgiving by the nature of how the platform works. Fastest way to get burned out is to try to accommodate every platform. 3-5X the work. All of this is just my opinion.
it's now that you're necessarily wrong, but i think trying to bring the same film and cinema language barriers and applying them to social media is unrealistic.
I honestly don't think chris talking about how big his "camera package" is, really has different levels of impact depending on aspect ratio.
Interesting but it doesn't apply to social media workflow requirements
Good points that you share with us Scott, as I also understand those of Chris. This is basically a matter of preference. 🤓✌🏻
lazy ?
When you watch enough YT you realise that everyone just recycles everyone else's content and passes it off as their own "big idea". I've seen this anamorphic aka open gate covered by 3 or 4 other creators theast few weeks. 1. I'm surprised this has only just become a thing and 2. Pretty sure you can all thank Micro Four Nerds for originally pointing it out. 😉
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That's how trends work lol
So is the GH6 or the S5 better for this. Which one offers the most flexibility
@@markshirley01 can’t compare full frame to APS C
Sure, but it's about how they teach. It's easier to learn with some youtubers than others.
I completely disagree. Stretching yourself too thin (and attempting to find a way to stay afloat in the process by finding hacks like this) is, and always has been, a terrible idea. Focusing on one useful thing is much better IMO. The "hustle" mentality on social media is killing content creators' creativity.
Agree
Great tips! I was also thinking to record in 8K for similar reasons.
lol. Thats big brain
Jeez what are you shooting on?
It doesn't work, the reels compresses it massively. You can either compress it first or IG FB will do it for you. I wouldn't be surprised if the Mbps is less than 1-2Mbps at 720p.
I totally agree! I have turned a few videos into shorts but these have had to be on a 1:1 ratio because I was soo close but its not ideal
I feel like the elephant in the room that would solve all the issues he listed would simply be to zoom out or back the camera away from the subject. I shoot news footage and have to consider different platforms that the content will be used, that's the solution that all the news photogs that I work with use. It's a lot simpler and faster.
Exactly my thought! It only takes a couple seconds to crop in post.
Precisely what I do. I just shoot a little bit wider, then adjust. Never had an issue.
Agree.. Wider Lens, Wider Shot, variations of crop ca be made...
Also if you film 8k/4k and youll export 1080p.. youll have plenty of room left
@@greybeard4034 completely agree! and I usually don't even need THAT much... so far, recording@5.6K has given me plenty of wiggle room for 4K exports.
Bro I figured out a little hack around this when I was figuring out how I could record car exits to make compilation videos at some point but be able to use them for shorts. I know cropping makes the res worse, but I would just start recording cars exiting from car shows horizontally with a grid/keep subject(car) in the middle vertical frame of the wide video. So then I would just simply hit post a short, hit any horizontal video and adjust the frame. I still do this to this day and I’m only using an iPhone 11 that’s it no pro camera! 🤙🏽
I use a Lumix G7 and I absolutely LOVE the 4:3 ratio for pictures. It just looks correct either vertical or horizontal. I can crop to a 16:9 or even more if I want to. It just so easy to work with and especially when you correct your rotation in post and lets say you have a group picture of people then you can rotate your picture without risking cutting people off.
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@@charlesbrickner Erm because you can crop it IF you want it to? Doesn't mean i do it wll the time. I simply ssid that the 4:3 ratio is the most versatile way to capture.
This is a great tip. I heard about other people doing this but nobody else said where the setting is in the menus. It never crossed my mind to use anamorphic mode.
glad you found Lumix, I've used many brands and models (A7SIII, R6, etc.) but Lumix cameras have showed me what a true filmmakers or content creators camera should be, love my GH6 its a true BEAST!
wow
I just got a lumix s5 a few months ago and had no idea what animorphic was for. Thank you very much!
One of the most helpful vids I’ve seen in a long time - thanks!
Anyone else struggling to keep up with all the platforms? Where do you currently post the most?
I kind of just gave up lol but I post more on IG and Twitter
Struggling so hard even as a new content creator. No idea how you've been able to stay consistent for years
I’ve been focusing on YT the most and barley posting on insta/tok but idk wtf I’ve been doing because Im actively trying to blow up and I’m focusing on the most saturated platform CZcams! I’ve seen not just people in my niche but people that have the same car as me even and make similar content and they have he biggest following on tiktok first then insta then CZcams… I’ve been pushing shorts so hard to CZcams for the past few months so I’ve grown to 250k views an 300 subs buttt.. I have literally no watch time hours like less than 50… it’s gonna take me a bit to make nice worthy to watch car/vlog videos to get monetized even if I pass 1k subs so I’m about to start posting heavy on tiktok I’m hopes to blow up and maybe some insta too 🍊✌🏽
I think this is a great tip, but from a newbie opinion you seem to be focused on quantity instead of quality. I bet if you put the time and effort on one platform format, got the time and effort back from the others, and invested that into the one platform, you get a much better “product.” There is a reason people stick with the name brands, and if your brand represents the better quality, people will follow you on whatever platform you focus on.
If I post, I just post to Instagram currently, and forward it to Facebook from there. I'm not too consistent, I do not enjoy the social media grind, but I need to be seen to grow
Great tip and video. I'm playing the social media game but feel that the cinematic quality of video and stills is lost in the vertical format. BTW loved Lizzy when she told you your camera was too small, my wife even laughed and then asked me if I needed to go to B&H.
This is so helpful! as always Chris is on top of his craft!💙 brilliant!
Open Gate - sometimes implemented as "6K photo mode" on Lumix cameras like my G9. It has it's drawbacks but it's 18MP per frame 4:3 or 3:2 (uhd IS 8mp). Photo Joseph did a great job covering this a while ago. Welcome to the club.
Amazing hack! Definitely gonna start using 4:3, that genius thanks Chris!
The GH6 is great for this - plus you can use the 10-25 f1.7 a full frame equivalent of 20 - 50 f3.5. This is exactly the zoom range I need for my work
I've got the zv e10 for social media and as my b cam. And the awesome part about it is that it registers as a vertical video when rotating it, so it still pertains the 3840 x 2160. And it's less than $1000 :)
ZV E10 is a wonderful piece of kit. Wish I could afford one.
I needed this. Thank you !
okay this is absolutely brilliant, thank you for this 🙌🏻
Didn't know Panasonic could do that! I usually just tend to shoot a little wider so I can repurpose but that messes up with lens choice and composition 😩.
Also great to meet you at Matti's meet up!
you would still need to shoot wider anyway because otherwise you lose out on the 16:9 version of the clip. It's just easier to visualize in camera
@@andy_olive I see. Thanks for the extra info!
That’s actually awesome!
Great tip! I have a Lumix S5 and will definitely try this out!
I totally hate the vertical format! Unfortunately we have to deal with it! But anyone can say whatever, but we loose a lot of info and quality! I do it because i am obligated to do it, otherwise i would never ever shot vertical in my life! F instagram that started this format and now Tiktok took over! I hope one day it changes but unfortunately I don’t see it happening! So i got to go with the flow! Sad reality!
The quality issue is to do with the max Mbps the app allows (which is pretty small). That is why most creators recommend to compress to 1080p and 10-20Mbps. I wouldn't be surpised if IG is 720p, 2-3 Mbps capped.
Hello Directorzon. I agree with you. I really hate the vertical format too! I only use it in some situations for photos but never for a video. I wish it could disappear!!! Sadly mostly everyone use it 😑😑😑
Great advice man you're saving everyone tons of time!!!
This is brilliannnnnttttt!!! Thank you Chris!
Bro this video is so helpful! Thanks 🙌🏼
Thank you! I'm going to try this.
thank you!!!! i did not know my s5 could do this.
i tried shooting some stuff vertically on camera which meant i couldnt use them for youtube. likewise my 16x9 to vertical crops looked trash.
definitely going to try this. thank you
Holy cow. I'm blown away. Thank you sir
I can never seem to remember that instagram crops images, so I get hyped about a shot and when I load it into Insta it looks objectively not as good.
You know you can switch to the original aspect ratio for Insta. It doesn’t have to be a square.
@@bryanbuff you can’t go to the original if the original is a 5x7 in portrait orientation. You can only go as large as 4x5 for that
@@Kwright304 gotcha. I was talking about the 16:9 aspect ratio mentioned.
@@bryanbuff I usually encounter this issue when posting a photo taken in portrait orientation no matter the crop as I never crop down to 4x5 in my workflow so it’s really just a matter of orientation not aspect ratio.
Great information. Thank you
I’ve thought for a long time that most camera sensors should be square or round to maximize the information coming from the lens. Especially these days where most content i shoot is 50% for horizontal screens and 50% for vertical. Would save so much time shooting things twice
Yea they can just overlay the horizontal and vertical cropped boxes over the screen so you can frame them both properly. There's really no reason to rotate your camera 90 degrees to shoot vertical, it should just be a flip of a switch. Pro body cameras and vertical grips do not need to exist!
my dream camera would be a 1:1 sensor
I've thought the same thing. Especially in phones. No reason why we can't have a square sensor and hold the phone vertically to record 16:9.
@@DerekSteen actually, there is a reason, no company is doing a 1:1 sensor, so we first need it to be made so we can use on your devices.
There is only a couple companies that produces sensors and all the other buys from them, one of the biggest is Sony, which they use in smartphones, cameras, mirrorless, etc...
Ive been doing this for a bit, love the s5 anamorphic mode! Wondered how long it would be until a youtuber would figure it out
I have also racked my brain the last few weeks, and have come to the same solution. Now I bought an old Lumix GH5 and it's so easy.
Great tips man! If you're shooting a brand that doesn't allow 4:3 what would you recommend? I've been playing with the 3 tier and 5 tier stacks on instagram, but this work more for "cinematic shots, and less of a narrative driven piece! Great vid as always man!!
That's actually ... awesome! One more reason making me consider getting the S5 for myself
So now were going back to original 1960's TV crop, I wonder when they built the Cathode Ray Tube, who thought,"You know what, let's do a 4 by 3 aspect ratio for TV, it will be perfect for social media in the 20's"
Nice! And we'll call it anamorphic mode to make it sound cinematic and make CZcamsrs excited
I just opted to shoot most things in cellphone format at this point for this channel. Only my live streams will new horizontal.
I'm watching you on a phone RN.
This is a game changer thank u Chris
Best of both worlds right there 👌🏼 great tip Chris!
Nice. I had thought the only solution was to turn grids on and keep in the middle grid. But this adds a lot more utility to editing.
Interesting! Thank you for sharing it. ✌️
great video bro. came at the perfect time. thank you
Great info! thank you
I think you are right on point. Most here dislike when a device shoots video only in a cropped mode. They want to use the full sensor width. But oddly, with the exception of a few Panasonic cameras and the new Fujifilm X-H2S, virtually all currently available mirrorless bodies crop the sensor vertically to about 1.21:1 when shooting video. I find this very annoying… not only for social media, but for reframing and for anamorphic shooting.
I fail to understand why anyone would support being forced to shoot video in a crop of the sensor?
Vertical Video is pointless, does it really hurt people to simply twist their phone 90 degrees to enjoy video as it has always been? Vertical Video is simply a byproduct of laziness and the uninformed rather than something that could have been simply been solved by phone manufactures in software or hardware.
Just take any modern 8k SLR and leave some room in the frame to crop easily.. Nikon Z9 will get you covered. And much better AF performance by the way 😉
Exactly!
ahh this has been such a pain point for me! THANK YOU!
Wow. That makes much sense.
Great tip, Chris! I love a streamlined workflow. Btw, I am so glad you didn’t refer to this tip as a “hack”. 😆
this is also the major benefit of cameras that are shooting 6k and 8k. I dont even mind it on 4k cameras - but almost all of my shoots need vertical spec so I just shoot extra wide (even wider than the 16:9 frame I need) and I crop both vertical and horizontal out of it. Social doesn't anything more than HD and even a marginally cropped 4K image looks indiscernible from full res when upscaled.
what every camera actually needs though is 9:16 vertical crop markers. currently only the Ninja V gives you this frame guide.
Hi Patrick, GH6 has 9:16 frame Guide or If I remember correctly Video Assist as well and Portakeys PT5 cheapest External Monitor as well...they can reframe how you want it.
@@filipmichalsaffray441 yeah i wasn’t a fan of the GH6 overall though.
@@impatrickt yeah me neither...went to S5+ BM video assist...probably A7iv would have been better but I am happy with S5.
And the price was half of A7iv and no waiting time at least here in Switzerland...
Dude. I think about this problem all the time. Thanks for sharing.
This problem was solved around 9 years ago with the magic lantern hack on Canon DSLRs, and in 2017 with the Panasonic GH5 and in 2019 with the Panasonic S1H etc. All of them can have been able to shoot open gate for years now
Excellent!
I definitely have to start using the 4:3 option - the Sony A7S2 has it as well!
Great tips! Simple and efficient 😉
thanks man!
What a useful tip bro...thanks a lot!
As a former reporter for a leading TV network that strictly implemented 4:3-safe 16:9 until 2023, I'm glad I'm keeping my personal 8K vlogs 4:3-safe 16:9 unlike 99% of content creators! It leaves enough freedom for me to centre-cut it to 4:3 for NTSC analogue SD or 1:1 square video which doesn't look too out of place in a vertical video platform like TikTok! 4:3 is back, indeed.
I never thought of thiss....... ahhhh... I can't wait to try this out! good call team
Personally I don’t like the vertical content. But I’m old and figure I can just rotate my phone.
This is an amazing tip! I have the S1H and will definitely look at doing this.
If you have the S1H shoot in 6k 3:2 full sensor mode (24fps only), the 4:3 mode described in this video crops in quite a bit to aps-c which slightly defeats the purpose of owning a full frame camera
@@WonderBoggle Oh okay! So it doesn't shoot at that same resolution as the S5?
I have never had a proper camera but I shoot in 4:3 RAW video too (from MotionCam app which basically saves the video as a series of .dng RAW photos) on my $300 phone (you get much better specs for that price in India so it is not that bad). I don't need that vertical room for 9:16 video but that extra space outside the 4k area is really helpful in stabilizing the footage in Resolve while still being a tad bit over 4K as my phone does not have OIS. Also, for some reason my laptop handle these RAW sequence much better than a standard h.264 or h.265 video so it is a win-win with immense RAW benefits. The RAW video looks so good that if I used it as a B-roll with an A-roll mirrorless camera footage, you wouldn't notice that it was not a mirrorless camera! And punching in on that RAW 4:3 footage also makes it look more like a proper MRLS Camera footage reducing the lens distortion, better field-of-view etc.
That is really useful
Agree. We need to adapt to where media is shared
Thank you!!:)
This is a really smart hack, and it reminds me of the beginnings of film before the 16:9 days which is wildly fascinating to me.
My question, however, is: How do we stop bowing down and catering to the vertical video demands? I get that it’s everywhere right now, but does that mean it has to continue that way? How do we as creatives stand up for quality and overall visual experiences rather than quickly consumed, easily forgotten content?
you dont.
@@maximumfunk5484 Why not?
@@traviskeas9614 because its here to stay weather YOU like it or not.
@@traviskeas9614 social media is all about retention of attention. The platforms don't care about quality, they care about content that sucks time.
@@maximumfunk5484 I don’t necessarily have any beef with social media, but rather the cheapening of our craft. Shouldn’t there be some consideration from these platform decision makers for quality? Or shouldn’t there be a voice from the community advocating for the art form?
thanks, as an editor i appreciate this change
I shot in 4:3 on the GoPro paddleboarding last night for this exact reason. There's gunna be people that disagree, but I here ya 🤙
This is a game changer! I still shoot on the Gh5, but might have to get my hands on one of these cameras.
You have open gate 4/3 almost 6K shooting anamorfic open gate on GH5 just it is 10bit420 H265...
The Lumix S1 and S1H has been doing this for a few years already, and before that around 9 years ago Canon DSLRs were doing this with the Magic Lantern hack. This is nothing new and definitely not a game changer. Even your GH5 from 2017 has this very same 4:3 mode
dropped a sub! Awesome content
is it also helping if you shoot 4K for a 9:16 video so you have more resolution and more space in your video?
Same issue for me and everyone I know 😂.. I've been just shooting with a wider angle lens, at 4k for almost always 1080 delivery that will give me extra room to play, I don't shoot on Panasonic, but , I can see the advantage of using your trick also... As 6k and 8k cameras become more standard I suppose pulling back or using s wider lens and then cropping in post could work very well (still adding a little editing and reframing here and there)
Thank you😊
Thank you.... my brain is going nuts after realizing how dam smart this is
you shoot for the love of the art or for social media, i never let any app dictate what my creative choices
,,, NEVER
hey man i love your videos
I actually just love the 4:3 aspect. With a nice muted profile it gives you a great look
Nice Chris
Thank U so much 🤠✌🏻💙
Nice Chris
Thank U so much 🤠✌🏻💙
Great tip
One of the greatest tips of all time
Awesome tip, Ill be trying this one next time! 1:1 is also perfect for Linkedin!
@chris hau do you have issues with the autofocus on the s5 camera? From your professional use with it, does that seem to be an issue you run into a lot with that camera body?
For the past 3 years, I've told all my clients to take photos and shoot video in 1:1 square or portrait for social,. It fills the phone screen better.
Lumix GH5 also have this feature under Anamorphic with 10bit 6K (not ratio correct 6K). And you can crop out a 5K 16:9 from or reframe your 4K picture (8.3MP) on the 20+MP picture.
Also, Lumix S1 owner here, you can shoot 6k opengate on the S1.
The 6k open gate mode (3:2 aspect ratio) uses the whole sensor area, whilst the 4:3 mode mentioned in this video crops into aps-c which sort of defeats the point of having a full frame camera, unless you're using super 35 lenses
Geeeeeez. This is awesome!
Not sure if anyone else saw the subtle message his editor put in there. “We” lol. The simple things in life I tell you. Love to see it
It’s true.
Chris, if you're shooting video with Lumix cameras, use Opengate.
u cant on s5...as i know
@@BartoszRybotycki I can't on my G9, I think Panasonic should unlock it for all cameras with a firmware update. Even if it's only in lower frame rates or resolutions. IDK what the limitations are, but being able to use the whole sensor should be a thing now that we're in the vertical video timeline.
Niceee!💯
Excellent
Ok… you just spoke to me lol. I only shoot with Panasonic and I’ve been struggling with this challenge and you just solved this for me hahahaha!!! Thank you, brother!
Very valuable.. Thankyou
I can't switch camera systems since I'm stuck on sony. Maybe just wider angle? Since its 4k, we can just crop in.
Interesting! Seems worth a play.