In-depth look at Panasonic GH5S with Kai W
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- čas přidán 23. 08. 2024
- Panasonic GH5S Lumix DC-GH5S 10.2MP Digital Single Mirrorless Compact System Camera Kit with Atomos Ninja Inferno, Power Kit, Zacuto GH5 Cage, Inferno Mount and HDMI Cable (Panasonic GH5S)
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That moment you said "IBIS", and those two people turned around. :)
3:23 the GH5S is a x1.78 crop instead of x2.00 crop (GH5), so speedbooster XL & GH5S is x1.1 crop.
Does anyone else notice the FOOTAGE recoded by the Inferno JUMPS (skipes frames) everytime it's been played back in slowmo in the video above? :O
Noticing frame drops on all of the graded Log footage from the GH5S? Was this just an issue from a render side in the NLE?
MVMNT yeah I noticed that too.
Same here. Thought the player was at fault ..
I Noticed too.
I've read that it could be the atomos cables aren't up to date with HDMI 2.0 at least from B&H
Ya all those features are pointless if it drops frames.
HLG might even be higher DR than vlog-L and the waveform is less compressed on the way through. It's my favourite for sure.
Multi-Aspect shooting is not the same as DCI 4K (@2:26)
4:53 love the laugh. That's The kind of laugh you have with friends.
pigeons shot was beautiful!!
Hopefully some good GH5 deals pop up soon with this out.
whos here to watch Kai w lol? funniest guy ever!!!
Great in-depth look at the GH5S Kai. I am about to get the GH5 and rather than getting the GH5S so I can save the money and get the lens. How easy was it to assemble the Zacuto cage onto the camera? I'm looking for the perfect cage. Either Zacuto, Tilta or SmallRig?
Something doesn't seem right with the VFR slow motion from panasonic gh5 and gh5s. Seems like they added optical flow instead of being 120 or 240 real fps. What do you think of this? I know this is not a good comparison, but using my iPhone 8 and GoPro Hero 5 the slow motion is much more fluid in 120 or 240fps even though the image quality is much worse than on panasonic cameras.
Thank you very much for the quality of your work. I looked at all the comparisons gh5s vs gh5 and I sincerely find that yours is the best. However between 5 '32 and 5' 45, when crossing the bridge, the richness of colors and contrasts and the finesse of the backgrounds is clearly in favor of gh5s. Can you tell me if this is a real difference in capacity between the two devices, or if it is due to different shooting settings difficult to synchronize, or to post production work ? Because this is not so obvious in the other comparisons I have looked at, but none of which, in my opinion and in fact, equal the intelligence and professional sophistication of your work, you can trust me? Of course, there are other examples in your video, including 8'35 with the tag images and the difference in quality at 6400 iso, which are also very impressive. Thank you very much for your answer and forgive me for my English so beginner.
some of the slow-mo footage looks like it jumps. Is it or is it just me?
Thomas Karklins same
Same here.
First thing i noticed, but it has to do with render imo, cause i didn't saw frame drops in other reviews
It's more than likely Kai.
I just made a comment because of this issue. I've seen this with both GH5 and G9 when using VFR. Now I see it too on GH5s from other users. Is it some kind of fake slow motion like using optical flow, or maybe not enough fast SD cards?
About the EVA1, its more designed for broadcast with its camcorder like shape, and when you put an EF mount lens on it, it should be sharper than using it on a GH5s with an adapter/Speedbooster as the lens isn't trying to resolve sharpness on a much smaller sensor with smaller pixels than its designed for as the sensor will use more of the lens image circle and will benefit from larger pixels. Not only that, but a game changer could be when it gets the 5.7K RAW firmware and that will make it stand out over the GH5s since it can't shoot RAW.
The raw is only external and will only been 10 bit. Rather take the c200 over the EVA1. In fact I would take either the FS7, UMP or the C200 over the EVA1. The only advantage the EVA1 has is the sharpness and built in NDs. The GH5s has timecode capability, can use the XLR adapter, has better ergonomics and is better in low light than the EVA1
10-bit only RAW? Where did you find that out? In this video he says its going to be 12-bit RAW: czcams.com/video/18MwdsGtIaM/video.html go to 1:48 but I couldn't find much info on what the RAW color bits actually is.
how tell me what equipment they use to shoot Kai? looks sharp
Idk what happened with my GH5s but yesterday I turned it on and is soooo dark... I can't see anything on the screen with 100ISO... I have setup ISO at least to 1600 to see anything, and if aperture goes to 9 my ISO has to be at 6400 or so... Any idea what happened???
Looked like drop frames from the atoms footage
Yeah, I saw that too
"Perfect handheld camera that shoots 4K" - no IBIS
This is NOT a camera meant for hand-held.
7:48 Your nose Kai.
Britain stills looks grey even when it's been graded :-( And those people look sooo happy on the bridge at 7:39! Maybe I should wait for the Nikon 'zee' mount mirrorless camera ;-)
Was the atomos dropping frames?
When showing the sample footage, What's with the frame skipping 5sec. ?
Yeah, was going to comment the same. What's up with that?!
GH5 is for everyone. safe choice
Is the jitters, judders problem solved, in 24p 25p and 50p, on GH5S @CVPTV ?
But does vLog really have "more latitude than HLG"? They should have the same dynamic range (at least on the GH5).
First off with a 0.64x speed booster the crop factor in DCI 4K is 1.15x not 1.28x and with the 0.71x speedbooster it is 1.275x not 1.42 You forgot to factor in the multi aspect sensor.
But also a pro no one seems to be thinking about is how if the same f stop is used (say f2.8) the GH5s performs similarly in low light to an A7sii, this means the Panasonic Kit will be way cheaper, smaller and lighter to get similar low light results. (GH5s + 12-35 = $3000 vs A7sii + 24-70 = $4900)
Plus if you want to go with a bigger (speedbooster) combo on the GH5s you can blow the A7sii out of the water in low light and get similar shallow depth of field. In essence its almost 2 stops better in low light than the A7sii when at equivalent depths of field. That's the amazing thing Panasonic has pulled off in my opinion.
With all due respect, it’s clear you haven’t seen footage straight out of the A7s II. The low light abilities aren’t even comparable, let alone the fact you’re trying to pin the brand new GH5s to a camera that’s more than 2 years old now. I recommend you take a look at what the Sony can deliver at 102400 ISO and then compare that to GH5s’ 6400 tops? It’s not even the same magnitude.
You don't have both camera's either. If you look at test results on YT GH5s is neck and neck with the A7sii all the way up to 12800 at the same F-stop. For ISOs higher than that the A7sii gets the edge. But the main point I was making is that if say you can't go lower than f4 on a subject with the A7sii before the depth of field becomes to small for the subject then the GH5s can go down to F2 and get the same depth of field but it then has a 2 stop low light advantage in such scenarios because it performs similarly to the A7sii at the same F-stop.
So for a given depth of field the GH5s has the best low light. Plus all the other features like unlimited recording, 4k60, 10 bit 422, HLG, vector-scopes, timecode, anamorphic etc.
Joseph Hinkle again, no disrespect but you should see Philip Bloom’s latest video comparing the GH5S to both the A7S II (again, keep in mind this camera is now 2 full years old) and the A7R III. Just take a look at the noise levels vs detail captured and then let me know if they’re even in the same ballpark.
Joseph Hinkle and obviously I’m not commenting on DOF differences because those are aesthetics, subjective choices and have nothing to do with the sheer ability of these cameras. Personally, I’d much prefer a look closer to full frame/S35.
Not agree with you it is not the camera that take shooting, but the photographer light or not light.
Hi I noticed you never mentioned about filming in low light which is why i am trying to come away from my Cannon 550D that and my ccannon has a time limit on the filming and i heard that even in 4K there is no limit on shooting time. I have heard of camera's such as the Sony A7Sii ( the other camera i am considering ) overheat's and shut's down, i have been told that this do's not happen in the GH5S. Also the A7Sii has unique sensor technology regarding the pixels that no other camera has which will help me with my low light situation however the Sony has a time limit on the 4K, aaaahhhh this is so fustrating lol. Ok so the low light is the highest priority issue to be fixed so lets aproach it from that angle, which out of the two is best for this?
Yeay. Getting this!
松下GH5s拍照的像素是多少啊？有人说比GH5降低了像素？
No ND filters on your lens?
8:31 he phoned in that drop off.
Awesome review 👍🏻
wtf that 240fps looks crisp.! should i even wait for the a7s iii
Didn't he draw a conclusion last time not to recommend GH5s?
LOL! He looked like he was forced to say those last words. I know Kai to be a Sony loyalist for quiet some time now. LOL
What about the g9?
1:03
What are YOU looking at?
to be honest just from this video only , i'm kinda sold. but what if it was a full frame or apsc sensor.
Speed booster XL = 1.15x crop so basically it can be better in low light than any set up. Only weaknesses left are Dynamic range, Video AF, and shallow depth of field, but that last one is only about a 1/3 of a stop away from FF with the XL speedbooster.
Another pro no one seems to be thinking about is how if the same f stop is used (say f2.8) the GH5s performs similarly in low light to an A7sii this means the Panasonic Kit will be way cheaper, smaller and lighter to get the same low light result. (GH5s + 12-35 = $3000 vs A7sii + 24-70 = $4900)
Plus if you want to go with a bigger speedbooster combo on the GH5s you can blow the A7sii out of the water in low light and get similar shallow depth of field. In essence its almost 2 stops better in low light than the A7sii when at equivalent depths of field. That's the amazing thing Panasonic has pulled off in my opinion.
Joseph Hinkle i am still the gh4 user , but i've shot with the a7s (the first version) and it's looks so fucking amazing imo the full frame make it effortless to get cinematic shots. I'm really unsure which camera should i upgrade to. The Gh5s or wait for the a7siii
NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH IBS LOL
Graded? Really? It just all seems quite bright and my monitor is calibrated. Was it over-exposed and just had the VLog LUT applied but no other corrections?
BTW just bought a GH5 as the lack of IBIS is too much on the "s", also while the sensor might move around with the IBIS off surely you can just turn it on and hold the sensor in one place, so I'm unconvinced by the excuse for no IBIS. If a gimbal moved the camera hard enough to shift the sensor with IBIS holding it in place it wouldn't be giving a usable image (without IBIS) anyway...
You still can't have a different Photo Style for stills and video though (except with V-Log L, strangely), which is just silly.
Pity the video-AF still isn't good enough.
anyone know the name of the background music?
I don’t think people mind the crop sensor as much as the damn AF
Thank you for this video, he's a funny guy made me laugh. I'll stick with my GH5. I love it especially the in body O.I.S. combined with O.I.S. lenses. I just did a short review after using it for 6 months. I use it for all sorts of projects mostly for my Mavic Pro documentaries on my channel.
u accidentally called someone in public LMAO 1:03
Is it just me or does the GH5S have a better color palette in comparison to the GH5?
it is supposed to
I guess we are doomed to watching entire out of focus videos with those gh5 's!!!
I prefer the GH5 for shooting in 6k
I will be waiting for the Sony A7S III or Sony A9S. Full frame baby!
Price baby! ooh wait...
There's very little difference in terms of crop and low light with a xl speedbooster on the GH5s. Due to its multiaspect ratio. in DCI 4K you are actually getting a 1.149x crop with an XL speedbooster. I personally will take the better ergonomics and 10 bit over simply full frame of the A7S III.
That was the first thing I said when I saw this come out, too. The A7S III is going to wreck house!
Im gonna take one more stab at at. it also is gonna wreck your economy
Yes, Yes, it will be expensive, but I do Architectural Videography... I need the width. Also, I could get a speed booster but sometimes it just pays to get the right tool to start with...even if it is expensive.
damn ima need one of them time to sell that old dusty gh4 on the shelf
Pigeon videos will replace cat videos!
Kai seems so unimpressed.
that moire though
At which timestamp in the video? If you mean the slow motion (Full-HD) -> It should be clean up to 100fps (so you can use it at 100 in PAL and 96 fps in NTSC mode with full sensor scaling). At least first tests at slashcam showed that (the GH5 was just clear up to the standard 60P / 60 fps.
the couples: 1:03 what did you said? :)
❤️
Tim😀
What lens do you used in bird flu shot?
Panasonic 25mm f/1.4
thnaks, mate!
Slow-mo looks jittery
Tim 你该剪发啦
00:03 Geez... talk about out of focus...
So VLOG isn't for Vlogging!
meh, Kai is good as always though
It's too expensive for me. I am waiting for Blackmagic to take the mirror less game back to film and away from bussword video
Well its obvious who will buy the EVA1 you just need to read between the lines. Panasonic and Leica have already said they will record the next Olympics in 8K cinematic; well that isnt going to be on a MFT sensor is it? Look around and you can see there is a glaringly obvious candidate; why did Nikon D850 choose 46MP HighJazz back lit sensor? High Jazz develops sensors for Leica and makes them in the Panasonic factory. Clearly the sensor had already been developed with 8K cinematic in mind, 36MP wont do for 8K cinematic. Clearly the Panasonic EVA1 and the Leica SL will have already been ugraded to take the 46MP sensor with the required system infrastructure to shoot in 8K cinematic, must be in testing by now to hit the Olympic deadline.
Actually Olympus said in 2016 they are working on an 8K MFT camera, and in this interview, Panasonic are working on an 8K MFT camera: www.43rumors.com/interview-yosuke-yamane-san-lead-gh5s-development/
The point is it would be easy to make a MFT sensor with the required resolution but the question is who would want to buy it? Enthusiasts with more money than sense mainly but not the target customer. The target audience for this 8K cinematic footage is broadcast quality Sports shooting for the Olympic games. No MFT sensor would be capable of this quality; certainly not wih any technology available today. Points at the GH5s the current state of teh art which has been reduced to 12MP to get this level of performance. No, the 8K cameras developed for Leica and Panasonic will be 35mm. Even on a 35mm sensor with reverse technology the dynamic range will still be short of the 24MP SL shooting 4K now. If it cant shoot at least this well then it hasnt got a market. The other fact is that the GH5s pretty much makes teh EVA1 an antique, it is waiting for an upgrade; 8K would make Panasonic a market leader and totally destroy Canon Pro Cams.
They all taste the same.... Lmao
Honestly, I dont know why people like this kind of vlogstyle reviews. It starts with him being out of focus for several seconds, although he does have a camera man. wtf. could you please care enough to focus..? Also, you could have tested on leica pana lenses to actually see if autofocus has improved, you could have recorded 10bit 422 internally and check the skintones in comparison to the gh5. instead you put a speedbooster and a 5000mm lens on it and record on an atomos. What a pointless pointless review...
Ba prietene ce nu e full frame e un junghi de aparat... nu mai bate campii de pomana !
What a horrible frame skipping footage!
Everyone bashes Canon for not giving lots of new things in a new update but guess what happens when you give so many things at one time? You feel short the next time...
Applies to GH5s/G9/A7R3 etc...
Canon still making lots of Lens revenue from Panasonic/Sony Users anyway.
If Canon can do a 5Dsr2 (Faster and Better DR/Low Light) and the FF Mirrorless (With EF mount) right then Canon will come back to Body industry again.
Also I think this type of Strategy has kept Canon/Nikon in the industry for decades. But the way Sony and Panasonic are walking, I fear it's not a Long Run.
Romeo Quint nothing important the GH5 cant do. Except maybe 240fps.
Canon and Nikon are tried and true. They just have the reliability and user friendly factor that will never go away.
Sure, Sony and Panasonic have all the fancy new features, but at that price range, they’re having logistical issues that should not exist at $2000+ for a camera. Overheating, bad battery life, bad menu system, bad af, no flip screen, flaky touch screens, etc, etc.
I think Canon and Nikon are doing the right thing by waiting and fine tuning their engineering while Sony is releasing new cameras every friggin week. Because once Canon releases something with Sony specs, it will be a no-brainer which one to go with.
Zaber Ansary the GH5s has insanely clean video. Having the extra leeway in camera to monitor light intake allows users to tighten aperture for a sharper image, shoot slowmotion in much darker environments, ect. Also the GH5s has better skintones than the GH5. If I had a gimbal I’d prefer the GH5s in an instant.
Phil Zero the only con that you mentioned that relates to Panasonic in that list was the “bad autofocus” and that is just video mode. Nikon’s video autofocus is just as bad or worse. The rest of those issues are solely Sony issues. Coming from an ex Canon, Nikon, and Sony user, all of the other stuff like the touch screens and the usability in general is absolutely perfect on LUMIX cameras.
Daniel Black oh I agree. Don’t get me wrong, I love the performance of Sony and Panasonic, and Canon and Nikon are far from perfect. I would LOVE to have a Sony or Panasonic right now, but there always seems to be something missing that’s preventing me from making the jump. Whether it’s the AF or sensor size or what have you. And as far as Nikon goes, they just kind of have a strong stance in the photography end.
I just think it’s only a matter of time before Canon releases something with Sony/Panasonic specs on full frame that’s in the same tier as the the gh5, a7s. Canon just released the 6d2 which was a bit of a disappointment, but it’s still the only full frame with a flip screen (also canon colours, Af, etc). It just seems that the next logical step is to add 4K and a higher frame rate, and then it’ll be a clean sweep for Canon unless Sony and Panasonic come out with something even better (not sure what else there is, spec wise)
But for now, there’s no denying that Sony and Panasonic are the top performers.
Fifth! :0)