Trek Stache 7 Full Review
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- čas přidán 23. 11. 2019
- I have had my Stache for 3 years now, and I'm excited to ride it every time I take it out. Here are my likes and dislikes. Also, check out the link below for specs and builds.
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Those trails look so fun!
There's a lot of good stuff in the San Diego area!
hey man , im 44 and i bought a 2019 Trek Stache 7 , iv had my wheel to Break spokes as well, But they warranted the wheel and give me a 2020 wheel, i just wanted to say I LOVE the bike man, and i live in Tennessee where all the Mountains are in Chattanooga, and i smoke ppl on the down hill, great review, Ps i Subscribe, good channel man👍
Thanks! It's a great bike!
Great review. Concise and to the point! I would love to have a Stache someday. I currently have a steel hardtail I love, so will need it to break or sell it before considering another bike.
Thanks! I have a friend that rides a steel hardtail, and he loves it. I imagine the ride is very different, but still fun.
Bought a used 9.7 a couple months ago. Absolutely love it. Put a set of Arisun (2.8) studded tires on it for the winter. No spoke problems (yet).
Nice! Hopefully spoke problems aren't a thing for you.
Thanks for putting this video together. I own the same bike, same year, and have found the same thing as you - that it's a really capable bike. I set it up singlespeed for a while last year and the whole process was pretty easy. Riding SS really has some benefits but I have now put it back to geared to be more versatile. I haven't had any problems with the wheels but I'm curious about the Line Pro 40 wheels. Dropping the weight and having a better freehub might be really noticeable. I have kept the Chupas because I think they are the right tire for this bike. Cheers!
I am thinking if eventually converting ti a single speed, but not yet. The Chupas are awesome tires, and I won't be surprised if I go back them. I have the Maxxis Chronicle on right now, and it's pretty amazing. I was also looking at the Bontrager Line, but I haven't pulled the trigger on them yet.
Great review and I agree with the fun factor ,funniest bike the stable 👌
Thank you. I can't wait to get it out and ride it again!
Hey man, great review!
Thank you!
I have a trek stache 2018 had to upgrade the rear rim. Love the bike once you dial in tire pressure great bike for technical trails and fun on normal trails.
Agreed! I think the rear rim is the only part of the bike that is really lacking.
@@MTBTrailReviewI went with Duroc aluminum expert rim. About $ 350. I put one little ding in them recently they have been very solid for 1.5 years. Was toying with carbon, but out of my budget.
Hello, i have the same exact bike, i ride it every day for work around the farm, and sometimes i take it on the trails. Only one broke a spoke. Other than that, it's been problem free. Before i ever rode it, i swapped the brakes for shimano 675 though. I can't believe the longevity of the Chupacabras! I love te bike too. My fuel ex and the Spz Crave just collect dust and cobwebs since i got the stache!
I rode the Chupacabras for a long time. I ended switching to something a little more aggressive just to try it out.
You might want to look at light bikes for good carbon wheels. I have a 19 Stache 5. The rear hub started making noise after a month. I bought a rear rim to avoid the constant complaints I heard on the FB group. The rear made the bike so much more fun. I'm asking Santa for the front. A set with DT Swiss 350 is less than $1k
I'll have to check that out. The free hub body has been one of my biggest frustrations, and a DT Swiss 350 would definitely fix that problem. Thanks!
Looking to get a new Stache 7 in the near future after a recent test ride, I hope they improved the wheels on the new model. thanks for a great review. I also noticed only 2 choices for 2020, Carbon or the 7 no more 6. I hope they are not eliminating the Stache in the near future.
No worries! I just checked out the website. That's really interesting that they're only offering the two models. I'll be really bummed if they decide to stop producing it. You're going to have some fun when you pick it up!
@@MTBTrailReview You mentioned Velo Care is it expensive?
@@rjahn3000 It depends on the bike and the plan you get. Check out this video. It has a ton of information. I can tell you that I will never purchase a bike without VeloCare again.
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@@rjahn3000 I can't reply to your other comment for some reason. From what I understand, you can use it at any shop, but it will be a reimbursement instead of paid up front. Just save the receipts, then send them to VeloCare, and they will reimburse you.
This was an excellent little review, and a bug encouragement!
Im considering one myself as my first bike upgrade from an entry level HT. Im looking for fast, nimble, and good for covering mileage and elevation. Would you say the stache is suitable for that too?
Thanks so much
Thanks! The Stache is a huge upgrade from an entry level hardtail. The 3 inch tires will add some rolling resistance, but I didn't really notice it. I would often do over 20 miles with over 2000 ft elevation on it. Going downhill, it's one of the most nimble bikes I've ridden. I hope that helps!
@@MTBTrailReview thanks so much, yes!
Would you suggest carbon wheels? I’m starting a Stache build this fall. Debating alloy to carbon since carbon cost is marginally more at this size range. (The places and wheels I’ve compared so far.)
I've never had carbon wheels, but I am going to try them. The people I know that have gone carbon have been very happy.
I'm on my 2nd stache. Best hardtail ever!
Fyi. Lightweight. Com thier carbon wheels are very affordable and tough
I'll check it out. Thanks!
What is Com thier? I wanna check out whatever you're talking about but google isn't providing any info for "Com thier carbon wheels."
@@ModernRedneck13 www.lightbicycle.com/
What trail is this!? I’m in SD too haven’t seen that one, looks amazing
This is a big mix of trails. There are clips from Anderson, Mt. Laguna, Black Mountain, Skypark, and PQ.
What are the wheelset options? I bought a 2018 Stache 7 last year (2019), but did not get to ride it hard as I separated my shoulder. I'm looking forward to riding it in the snow.
I just rode mine in the snow today! I'm hoping to have the video posted tomorrow. Honestly, I haven't found too many wheelset options if you want to stick with the 50 mm rim width. I have heard of people going to 40 mm to open up more options. If I find something good, I'll let you know, but your local bike shop might be a good place to start if you're hoping to upgrade soon.
40mm internal is the sweet spot for 29+ wheels (the Full Stache comes with 35mm internal from the factory!). I bought a set of Nextie i39mm wheels laced to DT350's and they've been amazing.
@@knysna83 I'll take a look. Thanks!
@@knysna83 Full Stache comes with 40mm SUNringle rims according to Trek web page. I wonder why they use wider rims on the hard tail.
Any thoughts on tires? I have a 2019 stache 5. I was thinking about either changing to the XR4, either keeping it 3.0 or changing to 2.6. Thoughts?
I have the 3.0 XR4 up front, and the much less aggressive Maxxis Chronicle in the rear, and I am very happy with the set up.
@@MTBTrailReview did you keep the 3.0 on the rear. My bike shop told me some people put a 2.6 just on the back.
@@orriechaffin2850 I have 3.0 in the front and back.
Really enjoy your video reviews. Regarding the one did about a year ago on the Full Stache 8: Did you ever buy one? If "No", why not? I'm considering either a Stache 7, or the Full Stache 8. I know the differences between HT and FS. I'm new to MTB, and getting a very late start. I'm 59 years old, 5'10" @ 185#. I'm not into aggressive riding. I just like to get out, pedal, have fun and enjoy nature and my surroundings. Not into speed, and prefer to keep the rubber on the ground. I'm considering the Full Stache over the Stache HT simply because of the added capability, "comfort" and stability of full suspension. Looking for a bike that will satisfy my mellow riding style for the next 10+ years, and am pretty much sold on 29+. Would appreciate your opinion based on your experience with both bikes. Thanks
Thank you! I did not end up buying the Full Stache, but it's still on my radar. I have two bikes that I love, and I can't really justify another one until one of those bikes starts to die. That said, I would consider replacing my hardtail with the Full Stache at some point, especially as I get older for the same reasons you listed. If the cost difference is not a deciding factor for you, I would go with the full. It's an extremely capable bike, and really fun to ride.
The Full Stache will definitely be more comfortable but my gut feeling says it's gonna encourage me to go faster. I'm also in my early 50's and actually have a self-imposed bike speed limit for over a decade (safety reason). And first time on my full-rigid Stache (slapped a carbon fiber fork on it, 2 years ago), I broke my speed limit. I really love the Stache.
I'm 6'0, 340lbs. Could this bike support my size as I would ride on asphalt and paved bike paths?
The website says it has a max rideer weight of 300 lbs. That said, I think if you're sticking to pavement and keeping the wheels on the ground, you will probably be fine. If you have a bike shop you trust, I would talk to them and go with what they tell you.
Line pro 40’s. THE best investment. It made acceleration better than my 26” x 2.5. Mine are 8 months old and haven’t touched them. I did destroy the original wheelset.
Thanks for the heads up!
How is it on climbs? For example in XC.
It climbs really well for a trail bike. It's not going to climb as well as an XC bike, though, as it's pretty heavy. Mine is a 1 x 11 with a 42 tooth as my granny, and it's pretty rare that I want another gear.
Is that why you beat me on the climbs?!
It must be the reason.
Considering this bike... one question for those of you that keep breaking spokes. Do you know if the spokes were tensioned correctly before break?
I am assuming mine were. The bike shop built the wheels and did all of the maintenance, and they're pretty good.
@@MTBTrailReview I've found that not often true where wheels are concerned. If the wheels are straight, they are assumed to be good. One of the best investments I ever made is a Park Tools spoke tension gauge.
@@Arfonfree Good to know. I have one guys at the LBS that is obsessed with wheels, so I tend to rely on him. Properly tensioning a wheel would be a good skill for to learn, though. Wheels are one of the components I have a tendency to destroy.
@@MTBTrailReview Something I sort of forgot to mention... Most wheel builders true up the naked rim. When you put the tire on and inflate it, the spoke tension changes. I don't know, offhand, whether the giant rim and tire on the Stache would make this effect worse or not. Those thoughts will have to wait til morning.
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Where do you live? These trails are incredible!
I'm in San Diego. We have some good stuff around here!
Do you have a dropper post on this bike?
Yes. It did not come with one, but I put one in shortly after buying it.
@@MTBTrailReview thanks, you ride your Stache 7 pretty roughly. It is a great bike and high end one. However, for it being a 2017 bike, it is considered by the MTB community dated compared to a “modern” trail hardtail. For instance, the head tube angel is a little steeper than for instance the Trek Roscoe.
Do you feel that your bike is very capable on the downhills and tech even though it is considered in 2022 not as aggressive?
@@markfares2579 I've ridden that bike on some really hard trails, and it has done fine. I would be curious to try something more modern as a comparison point.
Great review.
Breaking 1-2 spokes every ride??? That's ridiculous!
Thanks! It was getting really annoying. Switching to DT Swiss spokes was a game changer.
I recognized all the trails. Ha!
That's awesome!
What fork is on it? Manitou what?
Manitou Magnum 34 Comp
What do you meen velecro supporting you?
VeloCare is an extended warranty that covers wear and tear on the bike. It's amazing!
MTB Trail Review all stache 7 have velecro when bought
MTB Trail Review how did you get the insurance and can I get it on my trek bike
@@cvillatoro696 I bought it through the bike shop. Here's the website: velocare.com/. Just note that you have to buy it within 30 days of buying your bike.
MTB Trail Review thanks how much money
Finn?
Great bike indeed! The rear hub failed for me. I replaced to the DT swiss and it has been a bomb proof design. What a nightmare to ride with a stock rear wheel :-) My bike was under warranty repair many times. After the DT swiss update no issues and no worries. My recent update is the Sram eagle GX 12 speed, what a mistake! Everything has to be in specification and the eagle works but the bike like this you need more reliable system. The first eagle GX cassette failed on the first ride. The teeth in one cog just snapped. Maybe the first casette had some kind of material issue. Sram send me another one which has been working ok. The system has to ablsolute perfectly adjusted otherwise you have issues all the time. The old sram 11 speed was superior when talking about problems free ride and reliability. Anyways I needed more gears and that was the only option for me. I wonder if the shimano 12 speed is any better? Too bad it is not compatible with sram freehub.
I'm going to switch to DT Swiss at some point. I think as long as they keep fixing it under warranty, I'll take the free parts and repairs. I'm going to guess the Shimano is better. I haven't used their 12 speed, but XT is generally as close to indestructible as bike parts can get.
This verses the Santa Cruz Chameleon?
I haven't had a chance to ride the Chameleon, but I think it would really come down to whether you prefer 29+ or 27.5+.
@@MTBTrailReview The Chameleon also comes in 29", but with I believe in 2.3 size. That is what I would go with. So, ya the tires are a bit thinner, but still a 29er.
@@mheberling5939 Oh nice! I didn't realize they made the Chameleon in a 29er.
Yeah Trek likes to put cheap wheels on all of their lower end bikes. It's pretty appalling and I'll probably never buy another Trek for that reason.
I completely agree. I really wish they would put a little ore effort into their stock wheels.
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