Bike Test: Trek Full Stache
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- čas přidán 10. 04. 2018
- What if you had limitless capability and limited consequences? Trek's new Full Stache gets pretty darn close; this is a rowdy-ready bike that punches way above its 130mm travel weight class.
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that drift at the beginning was so smooth
*skid
i didn't realize the wheel was locked
Thanks yo!
from a journalism standpoint I just want to say great job on the video and in particular the conclusion/wrap up. I may have to use it as an example for my students in class!
I found this video, went to a trek store, and a stache followed me home. it's somehow lively and burley at the same time. This videos expertly crafted commentary does this bike justice! thanks guys for helping me find my dream ride.
You still own it?
I can’t stop watching this video. The way it’s put together is really well. & the bike looks sick.
Setting the bar for MTB tech video content right here! Keep up the production value guys, it's appreciated!
Such a sweet bike. It’s at the top of my buy list right now. Just saving the green-backs!!
did you get one?
Great review guys. Hits all the points: Informative, entertaining, concise.
Great video guys. Production quality is great, very informative review. keep it up!
That was fantastic narration and what a sic bike. I was looking at a 2018 nomad but now im not sure. This thing looks sic, like you could raise the psi a bit and really send this thing.
I’d like to get the hardtail version 7 of the Stache
Nice, video and the Magazine Article I also enjoyed! I have a Stache 29+ and a stumpjumper 27.5+. But this bike might be the next thing in the back of my Van!
Michael Loch whoa u have a plus in 29r and 27.5? I’m trying to decide on what wheelsize to go with.... if u could choose one of those, which one?
Great review and super looking bike! Enjoy!
I'd love to see a back to back test with something like maybe a Ripmo with 2.6 tires and then something with 2.35s. That video did a really nice job showcasing the bike. GJ, subscribed.
such a sick bike!!! will definitely be getting this !!
better format than previous
Sick! More of this please!
Awesome review! What trail were you riding?
very well done guys. and great riding clips, awesome rider.
Thanks James!
I feel like every video you guys put out says 'feels like so much more travel. Same same same. Punches above its weight.'
i dont know these people but I assume they've been riding for years and technology advancements are not lost on them.
Could you add a list of the upgrades done to this full stache 8? Please
Could you let me know the changes you made to the bike you road as to what comes stock to the Full Stash from trek?
Great review
I'm looking to upgrade the wheels on my stache, it's a toss up between the line pro 40's or the I9 Backcountry 450 wheelsets. I'm looking for something reliable and sturdy to handle my 220# weight. Any suggestions?
Brian Ross i9 straight pull spokes are very strong
2.8 tyres for the win! I have a 150mm front and rear but those tyres make it feel like 170mm! soo smooth
I bought one it’s crazy
thank for the great video and explanation on this bike, what stem length and bars are you guys running? thanks for your time
WEB I believe they ran the bike stock except for the wheel swap they mentioned and the larger rotors . So for the information you need you’ll find on the spec sheet on the trek website for this bike . Maybe you have by now.
Yes, the larger tire diameter can call for proportionately larger rotors to get the same brake power as on smaller wheels. And with the big wheels, you may be carrying more speed into the braking zone that you may be used to.
How do you compare this to the Norco Sigth C2 29 or a Santa Cruz Hightower LT S? I’m considering a good for all bike. Riding in Spain, similar terrain to South California. Thxs
I bought a Stache 5 as a winter bike to save my Santa Cruz HTLT from any extra abuse. The Stache is so unbelievably fun and smooth, I feel like I have a full squish under me thanks to those huge tires running at 11psi. I think the HTLT may go up for sale and a Full Stache may be replacing it.
hi i'm a moto guy i'm searching for a new training bicycle for make some cardio an d also have fun on downhill singletrack do you suggest me this? The alternative is a new stump jumper
wonderfull looking bike
Wow, I always found treks to be boring, but this one totally proved me wrong
How does this bike pedal? For a less-experienced rider who's intimidated by technical trail features (e.g. rock gardens and rooty switchbacks) and occasionally races XC (but not competitively) and wants one bike to do it all... could the Full Stache be that bike?
Got mine on order
DAMMIT N+1, now I want another bike
Pole bikes there evolink 158 can already fit a 29×2.8 inch wide tire do a review on that
I live in southern New England. Rocky rooty, very chunky and punchy up and downs. Would this bike be worth considering for this type of terrain. Or would something like a devinci django be a better option for everyday trail? Also is this bike good bone stock or is the brakes upgrade a must?
Bueller.....bueller...
I have had mine since it was available. Pretty good bike.
ocean how num does the bike make the trail feel? I feel like it would almost take the fun out of technical trails, it’s almost like the ultimate cheat code, it just makes everything to easy. What do you think?
@@gumbi8989 I don’t think it takes the fun out of it not one bit however I think it adds to your comfort on the trail and gives u more confidence when on the trail opening up more opportunities that you wouldn’t take on a smaller wheel but obviously it does make it easier with the 3inch tires
When does the 31er come out ?
My math shows an OD of 30.5- so not far off
1:00 to 1:05 is the sweetest sound I've ever heard
curtmastor totally 👊🏿
A bike builder out or Colorado called Lenz Sport has been making hand built 29er plus full suspension bikes that you might want to ride. Carbon wheels , cranks and handle bars. Any build you want and color. I have one, believe me, the only limited factor is your own skills.
wonder if the stache did that to his arm
In a way, yes. The very next bike Travis rode after the Full Stache was a traditional 27.5-bike. He was rolling down some techy rocks, and he claims he was so used to the Full Stache's aptitude in those situations, he overestimated himself and went over the bars.
Bike Magazine ouch! Been there, done that. Not fun.
How would you compare this to the Trek Fuel EX8?
It's quite a bit different. There aren't many bikes out there you could compare it to. The Salsa Deadwood might be one, but it's more of a trekking bike. The most broadly familiar bike I could compare the Full Stache to would be something like the Rocky Mountain Pipeline, a long-ish travel 27+ bike. Any similarity this shares with other treks is overpowered by how different the wheels and tires are.
Bike Magazine how about the hardtail version. I’m thinking of getting the stache 7 .
@@Bikemagazine I'm a bit miffed by your lack of pointing to this as an ultimate downhill/enduro machine. I'd presume with those monster meats it should roll over even another enduro rider in the way...?
so, is this basically a Fuel EX 29+? or is it quite a bit different?
Look at how that shock is mounted to the linkage, it's totally different.
sure, trunion-mount instead of floating. but I guess I'm asking if it's just a plus-sized FEX or if it's a totally different beast.
its similar to the fuel ex but it was built from the ground up by trek. they made the rear triangle and the shock mounts completely different and the kinematics of the shock are a little bit different if I remember correctly its a little less supple and more progressive. (I work at a Trek dealer)
I’ve ridden both the fuel ex and the Stache hardtail. Totally different bikes the Stache has way more trail geometry and likes to manual, the fuel feels a lot more upright and XC oriented to me...
It's quite a bit different. There aren't many bikes out there you could compare it to. The Salsa Deadwood might be one, but it's more of a trekking bike. The most broadly familiar bike I could compare the Full Stache to would be something like the Rocky Mountain Pipeline, a long-ish travel 27+ bike. Any similarity this shares with other treks is overpowered by how different the wheels and tires are.
The scratches are right where there scratches are and it still has those clip on pleaders
damnit it says my local shop got one...
saw this yesterday at race pace Columbia, MD....its so sick like your outdoor tank!!!!my dream bike ....expensive tho..tax return here i come....lol
Rad !
the single shear linkage is concerning to me, especially when you mention flex, it would be nice if you showed footage of the flex, and other things you talk about.
I got two 2014 Fuel ex 29ers both has same issues, cracked Evo link in bearing slots, misaligned bearings in the rear of Evo link, in ABP pivot, uneven BB wear, uneven stiffness from left to right.
I see this bike got stiffer Evo link, I haven't tried the Full Stache, I am not going to buy a Trek.
the stache is probably stiffer than my fuel ex, but I am sceptical.
I'm under the impression Trek have an amazing warranty, were they unwilling to stand behind those issues?
Anyone know what shoes the rider is wearing?
Yep. I am wearing Pre production shoes from Gaerne www.gaerne.com
What shoes is he riding in?
Did you hurt your hand from testing the Full Stache?
In a way, yes. The very next bike Travis rode after the Full Stache was a traditional 27.5-bike. He was rolling down some techy rocks, and he claims he was so used to the Full Stache's aptitude in those situations, he overestimated himself and went over the bars.
I'm really drawn to this bike, I don't know why
same here, it seems like it's the best bike for 75% off all mountain biking trails
Help.. Im in South Korea with the Military and just got a full stache over here. Brakes suck ! Where can I go to order a 203mm rotor and caliper bracket to fit it ?
I got a shimano 203MM rotor, now I just need a caliper bracket for it.
Salsa makes a full squissh 29er plus also...
What if you put some good 2.6 tires on it ?
Will probably feel square on the 40mm rims. Other than that, it's basically a fuel ex with a slightly longer reach.
If you want 2.6-inch tires, you'd be better off with a bike that's not entirely designed around these 3.0s. You'd be making geometry sacrifices you wouldn't need to. The BB would drop significantly with smaller tires, and you'd have an unnecessarily high standover up front because the longer, 29+ -specific fork is designed for so much more tire clearance. And a more traditional bike wouldn't have the moderately flexy rear triangle that was a side effect of the Full Stache accommodating for those big tires. Check out the Ibis Ripmo or the Rocky Mtn Instinct if you want an aggressive but moderate travel 29 trail bike that first 2.6 tires.
Thanks for your replies. I’m guessing it weighs around 32lbs . I would ride an xl . Am I in the ballpark?
2019 Stumperjumper 29er comes with 2.6's, just ordered one :D
Full Stache seems pretty similar to Fuel EX numbers wise which I run with 2.6 tires with no issues.
It failed to popularise once, will it fail again?
Like the idea though, but so what, can't afford it, most likely never will.
In fact, it is in high demand.
Always wanted to try one. Sadly Trek has s discontinued the Stache and the Full Stache.
Really???
@@ericdavis7532
Trek website shows frames only for the Stache and the Full Stache.
I love mine the confidence u gain is incredible once u realize how easy an smooth this bike takes any line
@@markstjean8622
I'm about to find out. Just closed a deal for a 2018 Stache 5. Should have it in a week.
How is this in up hills?
Hi Bike Mag, I see that you changed the stem, Did you remove the knock block as well?
What did you guys do to that thing? back in the shop with a cast, paint chipping in the wheel stays, huge chunk on the fork?
They went full stache
i want to know 2
This bike looks like a fucking monster truck, love it.
What a drift!... who’s the rider?
A friend of the magazine. You'll see him when our testers are too busy or too... broken for prime time.
I'm the one riding! Hope you enjoyed it!
Dat drift tho! #doyouevendriftbro
Nice
What shades is that rider wearing??
I am wearing 100% Speedcrafts!
The mountain bikers mountain bike... Anywhere you wana go, it can take you there (& then some).
The only place a Trek FS 8 might not shine, is at the bike park on heavily bermed trails (due to rear end flex).
Is it allready 30er?
30.5er
How much this bike???
29+ best plus.
I want one but I fear I'd kill myself on it.
don't understand why plus or fat bikes are associated with bikepacking... can't you do bikepacking with a normal mtb?
"I out-rode the brakes..." 1:29 - What brakes? This video shows *Guide R* so there *aren't any brakes* on that bike.
Deore M6000’s perform far better than Guide R brakes.
Is that true its sale rightnow for 66 only
2066?
Who know what trails these are??
We shot this somewhere in San Diego, CA
;)
Spencer Rathkamp Ted's I believe
Oh i know... im the one riding haha
Definitely Ted’s
It went together easily in less than an hour. czcams.com/users/postUgkxHL1v1R3NE5x4KiYfyt8dnQmyNYz7qi5L Make sure the front fork is forward or the pedals will hit the front tire. Tires are both a little soft so it needs air before I ride it. The rear wheel didn't come with a clamp regular bolts hold it on. The front had the clamp. No scratches out of box. Rims are a little off with a slight wobble. They could have spent more time with the spoke tool fixing the run out. So far out of the box I'm happy with it. I did replace the pedals with a nice aftermarket set. After riding it a bit my A$$ is a bit sore so I ordered another seat. Overall I'm nearly 60 and didn't ride a bike in 30 years. I like my new 29" Schwinn. It will be used for casual rides with my friend.
Good for you bud! You been riding regularly?
Changing parts to make the bike handle better. You guys should do that for the Bible.
The only bad think about this bike is the name...Full Stache????
Chainstay length?
Head tube angle?
(Travis Here) Chainstay: 430 in high, 427 in low, HTA 67.4 in high, 67.0 in low.
Commonground Bikes thank you!
its in the video lazy dick
Kane Bell Classy!
Drop in 27.5, 35 mm id rims, 2.6 tires. 160 fork.
Found her
3000£ bike in UK, plus brake and rim upgrades... too expensive I think
Yes first. What did I win? A trek session ? (O please o please)
Roller at 6:50. Wow that's awesome!
It was great bike....until new stumpy released with threaded bb and standard shock,
Teds...
see 29er plus all the way hahaha
Ya you rode it with a broken arm? Lol
You didn't outride the brakes, and you don't solve you problem with bigger rotors. The SRAM GUIDES ARE THE WORST BRAKES EVER USED ON A BIKE. And that's all there is to it.They are inherently inconsistent, lack power and the pistons stick so as the pads wear down the lever gets closer and closer to the grips making riding any bike with this brake extremely dangerous if you like to go fast. No amount of bleeding and setting up will solve the engineering failure that these brakes are.Bought a bike with SRAM guides? Throw them in the bin and get something, anything, other than another SRAM brake.
I just but that bike
Oh my God is the dude in the hat just there to repeat everything shaggy was saying about the bike. Guy litterally stole this dude's wheels and every other word out of his mouth.
Why would I buy a bike that I immediately need to drop serious $$ (carbon wheels/Saint Brakes) just to get trail ready? Yeti makes this bike ready to rumble right out of the box!
GX yeti sb5.5 is 5400, this is 3700. and voila.... (I like Yeti's- just a little apples/oranges on a 29+)
the yeti does not run or can fit 3.0 tires, and it's not on their website site, where can I find this yeti you talk about?
33 lbs. Dont think so.
And those wheels are heavy, it will be a pig on climbs.
Lol, two dumb guys here hehe
Tajar TJR weak too
I HATE 29ers! Slow to turn and accelerate...
Who cares
YOU PAY µ3000+ FOR A BIKE AND IT LACKS IN AREAS, TERRIBLE
Looks & sounds like paid promotion...
Depressing blokes
Never go full Stache
I really don't like the reviewer... never have.