I will always support CZ ...they were one of the countries that supported/traded with South-Africa through all hardship..never enforced sanctions against SA..if you wanted a firearm in the late 70's, early 80's you basically knew CZ was the weapon of choice...almost everybody had CZ75 9mm pistols those days...my dad still has his that he bought in '84...i just bought 2x CZ P07 G2 9MM ,one for me and one for my wife..you will never go wrong with CZ ...they are hardware, not toys, they are meant to work, you could only buy them from a hardware store in those days in South-Africa.
Nicely done. I got a P-01 two years ago and am now a CZ fan. Ive been juggling the SP-01 and P-07 for quite some time. Had they not come out with the Gen 2, I would be shooting a SP-01 now. The new reviews of the Gen 2 has me rethinking. Thanks!
own them both, first I bought the Sig SP2022 had some FTE's on first 50 rounds then none after so far I had over 500 rounds. Just got the CZ P 07 last week, straight to the range and shot my first 100 and no malfunction. Overall, I love them both but I prefer the CZ trigger and ergonomics
I chose the P07 in 9mm and couldn't be happier. The trigger just keeps getting better and better, it's amazing. I carry it after having shot 500 rounds with a couple of feeding failures within the first 50 and just perfection since then. Also put CZC's factory tritium sights on it and now the rig is complete. Carry it on DA mode with the 15-round mag in +1 in the pipe and an extra 17-rnd mag on the left hip. The mag extensions work very well and you should change the decocker for the safety if you want the trigger to lighten up another couple pounds. I'm such a CZ fanboy now, I disgust myself, can't shut up.about it.
@@supercarnitas That's good, keep it up! In time, I've found a couple of failures with my P07: At around 4000 rounds the RTS broke and it must have taken me close to 8000 dry fire trigger pulls to brake the factory firing-pin safety block's steel-sheet roll pin. I replaced them with upgraded heavy duty options. Gotten into practical shooting sports and the P07 is still the best. I carry it every day, specially these days. Shot over 10.000 rounds through it by now. You can make it fail, but it is not easy.
I've been eyeing the P07 second gen but now I will just get the first gen from Buds for less than $400. I will save up for the P07 second gen customized by CajunGunworks for around $700. I like Sigs too but prefer the CZ's,
I own a Sig SP2022 in .40 and I love it. It's FDE factory and I put a black handle on for a bitone and I love it. Trigicon night sights and sig light all make it a sweet pistol. But I just got a trade offer for a CZ P07 with upgraded stainless steel guide rod and spring, block spring, and omni trigger system. Along with a fobus holster and ammo. Idk what to do haha
Singapore Police Force is phasing the CZ in for general issue, as of last year. They're pretty thorough in their testing, I used to have the SP2022 in .40, would gladly have another. Great page, I'm subscribing.
I know I'm late, but I preferred the SP2022 because of overall feel in the hand, both DA/SA trigger pull, location of the controls and the size of area for your hand/fingers to rack the slide.
Great video. CZ's tend to be extremely hard to get a hold of in my part of the country. That being said I still actually own numerous CZ's but no Sigs. The reason is simple. CZ magazines can be interchanged with eachother and that helps me keep the price down as I can use the same magazines in multiple guns. My best friend has numerous Sigs and we both agree that either brand is a great choice.
I have the Sig in 40 cal and the CZ-P01. I actually wanted the P07 but they didn't have the sights I like. I haven't watched your P01/P07 vid yet but I find the P01 a very user friendly accurate pistol. I have shot many and not all pistols are easy to shoot accurately without having to find the "sweet spot'. I would imagine the P07 would be the same.My Sig 2022 is also a easy to shot pistol. Even being a 40 cal, the recoil is minimal. It feels physically big to me, however. I also agree with you comment on the P2022 trigger. I has a nice but unique quality to it. I have a Sig P320 in 9mm which I am no where near as accurate without a lot of concentration. If I were to do it over I would pass on the P320 and try the CZ P07. Thanks for your video.
+Kevin X First, thanks for watching. I have no doubt you would like the P07 if you like the P01. I have heard great things about the P320 and I would definitely like to try one in the future if possible!
Albeit three years ago, I purchased my stainless two toned SP2022 at Great Lakes Outdoor Supply brand new for $399.99. It came with the paddle holster, two magazines as well as Sig night sights. It became my first of what is now six Sig Sauer handguns. I love my 2022!
I have the CZ P-07 Hi Cap model, which has 1/2 inch magazine extensions that hold about 2 more rounds. With my big hands, about half of my little finger hangs off the original grip, but I have extra room with the extensions.
You can argue triggers grips mag releases decockers vs safeties all day long but the #1 reason to go CZ is accuracy . You can be a average to good shot with a number of pistols until you shoot a CZ and suddenly your accuracy improves . I shoot a P 09 and it is wicked accurate .I have handed it to other shooters at the range with good quality pistols and watched them smile as their groups got smaller on the first mag. It's a little big to conceal so the 07 is in my future. The guys who dont have a CZ have never shot 1.
When it comes to comfort and user friendly option the sp2022 is better in my opinion. I do not like the feel of the slide release or decocker on the cz. I handled them both alot and like them both buy went with the sp 2022 because I liked the comfort and solid feel that made me feel confident like I could shoot a hair off of a flys butt ,at a thousand yards, in the fog, blindfolded, with my offhand... lol
I do have to say that the controls on the SP2022 are very nice, they are seated toward the rear and they are easier for me to actuate as well so I can definitely agree with you there. If you feel that confident then that is definitely the gun for you and I don't doubt you could make that shot :-)
Such a solid review, even in 2021. I have the SP, and battle all the time with what to compliment it with. Considering a P-10S for carry, but the SP is the ‘old faithful’ that I’d keep in the house or in the car for long transits. Anyone ever replace their sights to something like Sig’s X-RAY3s? Also considering sending the pistol to Sig to install them. If you send your pistol to them for a basic internals refresh, and purchase the sights, they install and zero them in for free. Total cost for the service is $150 at the time of this post.
I own the Sig, the CZ and Glock and what I can say grip wise that messes with me or makes me like the CZ more is how narrow it is. it makes my Sig and Glock fell very blocky after I put a lot of rounds through the CZ and switch. For appendix carry the CZ just seems to lay better against my body also
Lots of folks are saying the CZ trigger pull looks like it has creep. That's because it's meant to be carried half cocked. Cock the hammer while chambering a round, then decock it. The pull goes from over 10lbs to a shortened pull of about 9lbs. Smooth and easy.
I don't have any hands on experience with the P-07 other than fondling them in gun stores. However, I did trade my SP2022 in on a second CZ 75 P-01, and I was a huge SIG fan. Once I discovered CZ and saw how much better of a shot that grip allowed me be, it was a no brainer. Buy buy SIG, hello CZ! I now own several CZ's including the SP-01 which is a tack driver!
In the 2022's case I just see it as an "economy" P226 (its almost as heavy as one!) its good for SIG Sauer to be competitive but polymer frames don't excite me in a Sig. CZ's on the other hand have _always_ been economy class so I can't complain about materials but I prefer steel/alloys if possible just cause it's classy.
Glock 19 owner here (26 and finally after enough time I got around to a J-Frame Smith 442 finally, my goodness what a fun firearm to get good at! :P) anyway...pops got me the SIG SP2022 just out of left field knowing I missed a DA/SA, missed my Berettas, etc. The CZ is honestly what I Would have looked at first, it looking (to me) like a DA/SA Glock-y pistol. The SIG looks, well, like a SIG, looks fantastic, love it. Never thought I'd own one, at least for awhile. The SIG definitely feels better in the hands, I like what it comes with, the holster isn't bad at all, I (for my work) often carry it in a crossdraw with my litlte snubby on my right hand side OWB which may seem odd but I can take the SIG off and still keep something on me, quick drawing, blah-de-blah, works for me until it doesn't and then I die or lose another eye! The Glock 19 though...I think IF you own a Glock 19 and if you want a DA/SA and you want as close a feel the CZ would seem closest. The SIG just feels amazing, I just kept expecting it to be a dissapointment somehow but thus far it is just killing it. Not as good as my best trigger on my best gun (Kimber 1911) not as bad as my heaviest trigger (J-frame), single action feels amazing, DA is smooth. Magazine is hte only nit-pick, price.
I was thinking of buying something like a Walther PPQ to potentially replace my Glock 19 as a carry gun, but after trying a P07 I kind of like it better. I'm normally not a DA/SA fan, but the ergonomics on the CZ were exceptional. To me it felt better than a PPQ. I thought the trigger was pretty decent too. I really like the SP2022 as well. If I had to carry a polymer DA/SA it would probably be my next choice behind the CZ. I like the reset better on the SP2022, but the CZ had a better SA trigger to me. Granted that's all assuming a cant afford a Sphinx SDP. If I had the cash for some of those I would like to give that a shot (pun very intended).
I own the sig and have for several yrs. But I originally wanted the p07, just the day i went buy they had sold out of the p07, so I reconsidered and bought the sig , I mean really how can you go wrong with a sig, and its a great pistol as i knew it would be, no regrets. My big concern was grip, ergonomics, with the p07 they have three sizes of backstrap, the sig has two. All worked out for me. Broke my thumb in '07 so I needed a smaller grip.
Excellent review, I have the 2022 and it is awesome. only negative is the grip is a little short for my hand, I need some type of extension but can't find one. Anyway great review.
So I did end up getting both lol. Both are great hand guns but I would have to give the nod to the CZ. Totally agree with you on liking the sigs double action better but even with that I still shot the CZ better. It seemed to handle the recoil better too. I got the gen 2 p07 that comes with two mags and two extended mag plates if you so wish to choose to switch out that gives you 17 + 1. Which makes it great for a night stand gun as well with that added capacity. Not dumping on the sp2022 at all! I just favor the cz. Thanks again for your spot on video. Really helped.
Mr9Milly Glad you ended up getting both and I'm in the same boat as you still. Love both of them but the CZ just fits me a little better. Thanks again!
Ive used both, and I would 100% recommend the SP2022 over the CZ. Although there is nothing wrong with the CZ, I find the ergonomics on the SIG to be way more user friendly. Really don't like the midget slide and the excessive slide release and dec-cocker of the CZ. Also, the tang is a bit long and digs in when concealed Trigger`s pretty good though.
I'm still not sure which one to get... they are both the same price at my local gun shop $499. I have shot both and like both, I just can't afford both....
I recently picked up an SP2022 from an individual to augment my vehicle's GHB. I'm rather surprised by the $40-48 price per mags, though, as well as the total lack of surplus LEO mags available.
+tonygslc801 Look for a video from me on both of them soon! I have had the Phantom for a few years now and I was able to pick up a P-09 a few weeks ago. Putting a few hundred more rounds through the P-09 before I make a video :-)
How do you compare the sight picture between the two? I've seen a lot of negative commentary about the Sig's Combat Sight Picture that requires covering the target with the front sight. I was dead set on the 2022 until I read about its sight picture.
Both are pretty similiar. They are both the European sight picture where you will have to line up all 3 dots directly over where you want to hit. It takes some getting used to but not too bad.
The 2022 does come with an Manuel Safety ( MS model). In luck across one at a Gun Show 2 years ago. Someone orders it from a dealer and never showed up to get it. I got it $300.00 + 30 for taxes & fees. Have the 226 and the 2022, performs the same. Great pistol and priced at a point that it is available to most people. Rare gem in the shooting world. Thanks for sharing!
I think you are in correct. In South Africa you can replace your sights on a P07 with tritium nights, fiber optics you even get raised sights for the threaded barrel version.
Stream light TLR-1. Also consider the O-LIGHT BALDR mini. Not the best light in the world, but for the money it’s good. It comes with a laser and recharging capability.
Austin I have a question. I just bought the same p-07 that you have but, I have notice that my magazine button wiggles a bit when the mag is not inserted have you notice this with yours?
I just pulled mine out to check and you are right. Mine also has some play in it with no magazine inserted. Seems to have no negative affects on the function though. Looks like it is just a matter of no pressure (from insertion of the magazine) being applied to the magazine release and spring assembly.
+tuck234 P-07 Duty is the older model with subtle differences such as lack of forward slide serrations, different sights, no interchangeable backstraps, etc.
Can somebody put these two against each other: the P-07 and P-09, which one would get on top and why? Would P-09 be measurably more accurate? Please share your thoughts based on your experiences, people! Austin B dear, can you share the reasons why you didn't include Canik striker guns in the category of the best value guns?
I haven't done a video comparing the P-07 to the P-09 yet because I find them so similar. I shoot them both almost equally the same, the controls are identical, sights identical, triggers are identical. Really the only noticeable difference is the size. I find the P-07 fits my hand a little better but the P-09 isn't bad either. I would most definitely include Canik's striker guns as some of the best value on the market I just don't have enough trigger time with them to make a video yet. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for watching. I grabbed the SP2022 from Kentucky Gun Company and I got the CZ on gunbroker. I will admit I was price watching for a long while. I know that Palmetto State Armory, Kentucky Gun Co and Bud's all run specials on the SP2022s fairly often. The CZ is harder to find under $400 although the P-07 Duty can be found pretty regularly around $375.
Michael Saavedra, not sure why I can't reply directly to your question but I hope this will help. I do not own an FNX-9 but I do own an FNX-45. If I had to choose between an FNX and the P-07 I would take the P-07. The FNX has an advantage in capacity at 17+1 vs 15+1 on the P-07 but I think that is the only advantage. The P-07 has a better trigger, I feel that the FNX triggers are a little longer and they feel mushy at the break point unlike the P-07 which is very crisp. I also prefer the sights on the P-07 as they are easier for me to pickup quickly.
+Matthew Caughey I have a TP9-SA. It is a good choice if you like a striker fired operating system. I wouldn't say it is better than the SP2022 or the P-07 though but everyone's preferences are different.
+Matthew Caughey lol, I had one of those P.O.S.. & the slide would not even lock back & customer service would not even respond,,. shitty gun with even shittier customer service..lol- shoot on.
I own a TP9SA (2 actually since my Dad passed) and a P-07 V2... IMO the TP9SA's trigger is amazing for the cost of the pistol, but the P-07's is amazing ++. The CZ's a totally different animal, but in SA mode the CZ Omega Trigger feels more like one of my worked over bolt-gun triggers. The TP9SA's trigger is a bit rougher and mushier, although the reset and break are both very good and very functional. I find that dry-firing the CZ feels worlds better then the Canik (I also own a couple Canik CZ Clones and those triggers while not as good as the real CZ's are pretty dam good and slightly "better" then the TP9SA/SF's Walther style SA/Striker set-ups) but that when live-firing, and esp. moving and firing/not focusing on the trigger so intently, it's a lot less noticeable and the TP9SA really does impress in live-fire. I still give the nod to the P-07 but the Canik, as everyone's been talking about for the last few years, is one of those "sleeper" pistols that really punches above it's price class would suggest. But then so is the P-07 really (got my V2 for US$424.99my TP9SA's for US$370.00 a piece so you're not saving much with the Canik). All that blathering to say: They're two different animals and I personally enjoy owning both because I get a lot of joy out of the "High-value" pieces of gear. If I had to pick one it's be the CZ P-07/09 without much thinking although for the cost of a single "mid-level" SIG you could have both (to be fair SIG prices the P30/250 clones a LOT more comparably in the Polymer market then say HK whos prices confuse me after not being terribly blown away by any of the HK's I've shot but that's just my opinion so take for what it;s worth: Not a lot). I like the DA/SA/Hammer set-up in teh CZ, esp. as a carry gun like I use mine, but for a cheap, occasional "fun-comp gun" I've had great luck with the Canik and pissed off more then a few guys who didn't like getting beat out by "one of those junk terrorist pistols" as they put it (and esp. not by a guy who's not part of the regular comp. crowd... people are fu... funny, people are funny)... Haven't had the P-07 long enough to use it in a comp setting but I'm betting it'll be pretty awesome. It's one of the most accurate pistols I've ever owned and it shoots so dam soft it's incredible.
You have the best, no nonsense, reviews. I hope you continue reviewing more guns. I like the fact you are honest and not working for one of the suppliers and it shows. Very good use of time and detail. NEED MORE. Thanks Allen
allen leaird Allen, thank you very much! I just want to make videos to help folks get a good close look at some of the guns I own so they can make an informed purchase. Glad you like my videos so far, will definitely see more from me in the future. Thanks, Austin
How's the bore axis compare between the two? My guess is the CZ is probably lower (generally they always are), but I might be wrong as I don't know much about the SP2022...Also, which would you say has more manageable recoil? I prefer 40 cal for 2 legged critters, but it is pretty snappy at times, especially out of a friend of mines G23. So, with that said overall which do you think is more manageable if they were in 40? Also, I'm left handed, so with that in account which do you think I would be better with, and do you know if the mag release is reversible on either one? Thanks.
The CZ has a lower bore axis and I would assume the recoil would be more manageable with .40 but I have shot either in .40 before. I know the P07 mag release can be swapped to the right side but I am unsure on the SP2022.
Not a fan of Sig Sauer. I had a SP2022 that wouldn't eject, a p365 where the firing pin and a320 that had to be sent back for an update. I have a PO7 po9 none of them have ever been sent
Nice guns but I think the slope rear sight on the Cz is kinda lame. I’d rather have a ledge on it for one handed manipulation than the sloped. I’ve never had any snagging issues reholstering a pistol under my shirt I think it’s a silly thing that fudds came up with a long time ago. Probably why so many 1911’s have sloped rear sights lol
Is it even on the Kali "OK" list??? I've seen other poor souls like yourself in CA asking about them and I thought I read a post on CZ's Forum about them not being "approved" for CA Useage (there are however 10rnd mags available for them so they're legal in other anti-logic states.). I had never seen anything CZ, that wasn't a single, random older/used example for sale, in all the many shops I frequent and have frequented for decades, until I hunted down a true CZ "Registered Dealer" (There was only ONE in a 100-mile radius of my Post-code and we've got a LOT of firearms/Sporting Goods Shops up here). Luckily I scored the last 9mm P-07 for a song but I've never seen another one for sale in a shop up here either, and again... LOTS of places to look. If they are indeed on the list for CA and you haven't yet, go to CZ's site and look for a Dealer, might help (apologies if you've already tried that to no avail), the P-07 is, to me, "something special". It's an incredible deal on a very VERY good pistol that's at the top of it's class among the more common brands/models IMO.
my cz get 1 I'm in love with what a fantastic pistol who gives a shit about the bulge factor what a non issue i love the extended tail the gen 2 version sucks and fellas the trigger on the first can't be improved upon beautiful poly
I think the czs line is ugly as hell and I have no desire to have one but I haven’t had a chance to shoot one yet either. Now the sig on the other hand I think is extremely pretty
![Sig Sauer SP2022 [HD] Cleaning & Features](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/grqWeo1WqSs/mqdefault.jpg)
Sp2022 price has sure gone up now
I will always support CZ ...they were one of the countries that supported/traded with South-Africa through all hardship..never enforced sanctions against SA..if you wanted a firearm in the late 70's, early 80's you basically knew CZ was the weapon of choice...almost everybody had CZ75 9mm pistols those days...my dad still has his that he bought in '84...i just bought 2x CZ P07 G2 9MM ,one for me and one for my wife..you will never go wrong with CZ ...they are hardware, not toys, they are meant to work, you could only buy them from a hardware store in those days in South-Africa.
Nicely done. I got a P-01 two years ago and am now a CZ fan. Ive been juggling the SP-01 and P-07 for quite some time. Had they not come out with the Gen 2, I would be shooting a SP-01 now. The new reviews of the Gen 2 has me rethinking. Thanks!
I just bought the Sig sp2022 in 40s&w and it feels great in my hand! I can’t wait to take it to the range this weekend !
own them both, first I bought the Sig SP2022 had some FTE's on first 50 rounds then none after so far I had over 500 rounds. Just got the CZ P 07 last week, straight to the range and shot my first 100 and no malfunction. Overall, I love them both but I prefer the CZ trigger and ergonomics
Thanks this is what I was looking for. Good size comparison.
my 2022 outshoots some of their steel versioned sigs again practice with what ya have
Two of my favorite pistols
2022 sig #1🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳🥳
I chose the P07 in 9mm and couldn't be happier. The trigger just keeps getting better and better, it's amazing. I carry it after having shot 500 rounds with a couple of feeding failures within the first 50 and just perfection since then. Also put CZC's factory tritium sights on it and now the rig is complete. Carry it on DA mode with the 15-round mag in +1 in the pipe and an extra 17-rnd mag on the left hip. The mag extensions work very well and you should change the decocker for the safety if you want the trigger to lighten up another couple pounds. I'm such a CZ fanboy now, I disgust myself, can't shut up.about it.
xithappens if you can get your hands on an ORIGINAL CZ75, grab it!
xithappens at what price? I saw one for 645 today. Sounded high to me
800 rounds for my sp2022, no malfunctions
@@supercarnitas That's good, keep it up! In time, I've found a couple of failures with my P07: At around 4000 rounds the RTS broke and it must have taken me close to 8000 dry fire trigger pulls to brake the factory firing-pin safety block's steel-sheet roll pin. I replaced them with upgraded heavy duty options. Gotten into practical shooting sports and the P07 is still the best. I carry it every day, specially these days. Shot over 10.000 rounds through it by now. You can make it fail, but it is not easy.
Have em both, love em both
Also.....One of the best reviews yet. Do more please
I've been eyeing the P07 second gen but now I will just get the first gen from Buds for less than $400. I will save up for the P07 second gen customized by CajunGunworks for around $700. I like Sigs too but prefer the CZ's,
I own a Sig SP2022 in .40 and I love it. It's FDE factory and I put a black handle on for a bitone and I love it. Trigicon night sights and sig light all make it a sweet pistol. But I just got a trade offer for a CZ P07 with upgraded stainless steel guide rod and spring, block spring, and omni trigger system. Along with a fobus holster and ammo. Idk what to do haha
I am in love with my Sig SP 2022 and my other one is the Polymer framed Taurus PT 24/7 G2 in 9x19 Para. You HAVE to try that one!
I used to own the 24/7 g2 myself
Singapore Police Force is phasing the CZ in for general issue, as of last year. They're pretty thorough in their testing, I used to have the SP2022 in .40, would gladly have another. Great page, I'm subscribing.
I know I'm late, but I preferred the SP2022 because of overall feel in the hand, both DA/SA trigger pull, location of the controls and the size of area for your hand/fingers to rack the slide.
I have a sigpro also,one of my favorite pistols hands down..so underrated
I don't own own either one but I'm looking at both, and that is one of the things I think Sig beats CZ at is control location
The magazine release can be swapped to the left side on the CZ, at least on the p09 As a lefty, I know, lol.
Great video. CZ's tend to be extremely hard to get a hold of in my part of the country. That being said I still actually own numerous CZ's but no Sigs. The reason is simple. CZ magazines can be interchanged with eachother and that helps me keep the price down as I can use the same magazines in multiple guns. My best friend has numerous Sigs and we both agree that either brand is a great choice.
I own both these guns. Very nice. Sig and CZ, can't go wrong
I have the Sig in 40 cal and the CZ-P01. I actually wanted the P07 but they didn't have the sights I like. I haven't watched your P01/P07 vid yet but I find the P01 a very user friendly accurate pistol. I have shot many and not all pistols are easy to shoot accurately without having to find the "sweet spot'. I would imagine the P07 would be the same.My Sig 2022 is also a easy to shot pistol. Even being a 40 cal, the recoil is minimal. It feels physically big to me, however. I also agree with you comment on the P2022 trigger. I has a nice but unique quality to it. I have a Sig P320 in 9mm which I am no where near as accurate without a lot of concentration. If I were to do it over I would pass on the P320 and try the CZ P07. Thanks for your video.
+Kevin X First, thanks for watching. I have no doubt you would like the P07 if you like the P01. I have heard great things about the P320 and I would definitely like to try one in the future if possible!
I have both, they are excellent options. Be safe.
Where in the world did you find these guns for $370 out the door?
probably got it Used.
Albeit three years ago, I purchased my stainless two toned SP2022 at Great Lakes Outdoor Supply brand new for $399.99. It came with the paddle holster, two magazines as well as Sig night sights. It became my first of what is now six Sig Sauer handguns. I love my 2022!
Lol!! No shit. How in TF did he get those prices even then…….
😂😂😂
Obviously not in California 😂
Sp2022 had for four years shoots great 50 yards no jams worth every penny true story
Love my SP 2022. My next polymer will probably be the P 07 - unless the XDe strikes my fancy first.
Two first class heaters...yeah, I own both!
I have the CZ P-07 Hi Cap model, which has 1/2 inch magazine extensions that hold about 2 more rounds. With my big hands, about half of my little finger hangs off the original grip, but I have extra room with the extensions.
You can argue triggers grips mag releases decockers vs safeties all day long but the #1 reason to go CZ is accuracy . You can be a average to good shot with a number of pistols until you shoot a CZ and suddenly your accuracy improves . I shoot a P 09 and it is wicked accurate .I have handed it to other shooters at the range with good quality pistols and watched them smile as their groups got smaller on the first mag. It's a little big to conceal so the 07 is in my future. The guys who dont have a CZ have never shot 1.
When it comes to comfort and user friendly option the sp2022 is better in my opinion. I do not like the feel of the slide release or decocker on the cz. I handled them both alot and like them both buy went with the sp 2022 because I liked the comfort and solid feel that made me feel confident like I could shoot a hair off of a flys butt ,at a thousand yards, in the fog, blindfolded, with my offhand... lol
I do have to say that the controls on the SP2022 are very nice, they are seated toward the rear and they are easier for me to actuate as well so I can definitely agree with you there. If you feel that confident then that is definitely the gun for you and I don't doubt you could make that shot :-)
CallitKarma I don't like the slide release too .. :( that's a shame cause I love this gun... I'm gonna buy a glock 19 or a sig 2022
Such a solid review, even in 2021. I have the SP, and battle all the time with what to compliment it with. Considering a P-10S for carry, but the SP is the ‘old faithful’ that I’d keep in the house or in the car for long transits.
Anyone ever replace their sights to something like Sig’s X-RAY3s? Also considering sending the pistol to Sig to install them. If you send your pistol to them for a basic internals refresh, and purchase the sights, they install and zero them in for free. Total cost for the service is $150 at the time of this post.
I own the Sig, the CZ and Glock and what I can say grip wise that messes with me or makes me like the CZ more is how narrow it is. it makes my Sig and Glock fell very blocky after I put a lot of rounds through the CZ and switch. For appendix carry the CZ just seems to lay better against my body also
great video thanks man!
+StraitClownin909 Thanks for watching!
Lots of folks are saying the CZ trigger pull looks like it has creep. That's because it's meant to be carried half cocked. Cock the hammer while chambering a round, then decock it. The pull goes from over 10lbs to a shortened pull of about 9lbs. Smooth and easy.
I don't have any hands on experience with the P-07 other than fondling them in gun stores. However, I did trade my SP2022 in on a second CZ 75 P-01, and I was a huge SIG fan. Once I discovered CZ and saw how much better of a shot that grip allowed me be, it was a no brainer. Buy buy SIG, hello CZ! I now own several CZ's including the SP-01 which is a tack driver!
CZ just makes great handguns, the SP01 is awesome!
I have the 2022 great buy my wife has ms and she can rack the slide with no problem the Sig shoots great I go with sig
PlanetRigo I’m debating between a Glock 19, sig 2022, and CZ 75 for my first handgun. Any recommendations?
great vid
+77killerbrian Thanks for watching!
In the 2022's case I just see it as an "economy" P226 (its almost as heavy as one!) its good for SIG Sauer to be competitive but polymer frames don't excite me in a Sig. CZ's on the other hand have _always_ been economy class so I can't complain about materials but I prefer steel/alloys if possible just cause it's classy.
Glock 19 owner here (26 and finally after enough time I got around to a J-Frame Smith 442 finally, my goodness what a fun firearm to get good at! :P) anyway...pops got me the SIG SP2022 just out of left field knowing I missed a DA/SA, missed my Berettas, etc. The CZ is honestly what I Would have looked at first, it looking (to me) like a DA/SA Glock-y pistol. The SIG looks, well, like a SIG, looks fantastic, love it. Never thought I'd own one, at least for awhile.
The SIG definitely feels better in the hands, I like what it comes with, the holster isn't bad at all, I (for my work) often carry it in a crossdraw with my litlte snubby on my right hand side OWB which may seem odd but I can take the SIG off and still keep something on me, quick drawing, blah-de-blah, works for me until it doesn't and then I die or lose another eye!
The Glock 19 though...I think IF you own a Glock 19 and if you want a DA/SA and you want as close a feel the CZ would seem closest.
The SIG just feels amazing, I just kept expecting it to be a dissapointment somehow but thus far it is just killing it. Not as good as my best trigger on my best gun (Kimber 1911) not as bad as my heaviest trigger (J-frame), single action feels amazing, DA is smooth. Magazine is hte only nit-pick, price.
Interesting,I think the p07 is a lot sexier. Different strokes I guess
Interesting,I think the p07 is a lot sexier. Different strokes I guess
I was thinking of buying something like a Walther PPQ to potentially replace my Glock 19 as a carry gun, but after trying a P07 I kind of like it better. I'm normally not a DA/SA fan, but the ergonomics on the CZ were exceptional. To me it felt better than a PPQ. I thought the trigger was pretty decent too.
I really like the SP2022 as well. If I had to carry a polymer DA/SA it would probably be my next choice behind the CZ. I like the reset better on the SP2022, but the CZ had a better SA trigger to me.
Granted that's all assuming a cant afford a Sphinx SDP. If I had the cash for some of those I would like to give that a shot (pun very intended).
I love my - CZ p - 07 the trigger just get Better & Better with more rounds !!!!!!
I own the sig and have for several yrs. But I originally wanted the p07, just the day i went buy they had sold out of the p07, so I reconsidered and bought the sig , I mean really how can you go wrong with a sig, and its a great pistol as i knew it would be, no regrets. My big concern was grip, ergonomics, with the p07 they have three sizes of backstrap, the sig has two. All worked out for me. Broke my thumb in '07 so I needed a smaller grip.
The Sig has 3 sizes of backstrap, it comes with the small and medium and you have to go hunting far and wide for the large.
Excellent review, I have the 2022 and it is awesome. only negative is the grip is a little short for my hand, I need some type of extension but can't find one. Anyway great review.
Thanks for watching!
Can i use the same holster for those pistols?
Excellent vid. Great info. Looks like I'm going to have to get them both lol.
Yeah I really don't think you can go wrong with either, they are both so similar and they both shoot very well.
So I did end up getting both lol. Both are great hand guns but I would have to give the nod to the CZ. Totally agree with you on liking the sigs double action better but even with that I still shot the CZ better. It seemed to handle the recoil better too. I got the gen 2 p07 that comes with two mags and two extended mag plates if you so wish to choose to switch out that gives you 17 + 1. Which makes it great for a night stand gun as well with that added capacity. Not dumping on the sp2022 at all! I just favor the cz. Thanks again for your spot on video. Really helped.
Mr9Milly Glad you ended up getting both and I'm in the same boat as you still. Love both of them but the CZ just fits me a little better. Thanks again!
Mr9Milly ñ, o
Ive used both, and I would 100% recommend the SP2022 over the CZ. Although there is nothing wrong with the CZ, I find the ergonomics on the SIG to be way more user friendly. Really don't like the midget slide and the excessive slide release and dec-cocker of the CZ. Also, the tang is a bit long and digs in when concealed Trigger`s pretty good though.
Ced JV Yeah a friend of mine let me try the p-09 and the frame slide is too hard... damn!
What kind of holster are you using for the sp2022 with the tlr1?
A big consideration you did not touch on, resale value, which piece will better retain value? I suspect the Sig!
I'm still not sure which one to get... they are both the same price at my local gun shop $499. I have shot both and like both, I just can't afford both....
I recently picked up an SP2022 from an individual to augment my vehicle's GHB. I'm rather surprised by the $40-48 price per mags, though, as well as the total lack of surplus LEO mags available.
Forgot that the mag release on the Sig can be switched to the other side of the gun for left handed shooters.
thank you
Arkadiusz Z Thanks for watching!
I have both pistols that are wonderful, but somehow I trust SIG more than CZ
FNX is also one worth looking at!
Definitely, I have very few complaints about my FNX, it is a great shooter!
take a look at the cz 75 sp01 phantom! that gun is a super nice polymer also the cz p09. Both great guns!
+tonygslc801 Look for a video from me on both of them soon! I have had the Phantom for a few years now and I was able to pick up a P-09 a few weeks ago. Putting a few hundred more rounds through the P-09 before I make a video :-)
How do you compare the sight picture between the two? I've seen a lot of negative commentary about the Sig's Combat Sight Picture that requires covering the target with the front sight. I was dead set on the 2022 until I read about its sight picture.
Both are pretty similiar. They are both the European sight picture where you will have to line up all 3 dots directly over where you want to hit. It takes some getting used to but not too bad.
Cz is on top for me!!!!!!
Is the DA on the 07 better w/ the thumb safety than when the decocker's installed?
To be honest, I can't tell much of a difference but I haven't put many rounds through it with the safety installed.
Heck yeah let me know because I'm interested in purchasing one or the other I would like to know your input. Thanks Bud!
+tonygslc801 I definitely will, look for the video in the next few weeks!
The p07 is a superior firearm. I like the sigs and have the legion 226 and the combat 229, but prefer the manual of arms on the Cz. P01 and Sp01 ftw.
For the explanation sig should open the mini light then is good
The 2022 does come with an Manuel Safety ( MS model). In luck across one at a Gun Show 2 years ago. Someone orders it from a dealer and never showed up to get it.
I got it $300.00 + 30 for taxes & fees. Have the 226 and the 2022, performs the same.
Great pistol and priced at a point that it is available to most people.
Rare gem in the shooting world. Thanks for sharing!
I love them both but would carry the CZ
Wow! $370 is a steal for the 2022. I see them in my area for no less than $485
Keith Richards Liver just bought e2022 from cabelas yesterday for 379
darkrealm25
that's a good deal!
cant speak for the cz but the 2022 is one of the most underrated guns ever. As close as it gets to a 229 but cheaper and a little bigger
that CZ trigger looks like it got a lot of creep I prefer Sig all day but still though you got to give CZ credit solid firearms they both are
Sights on the P07/09 CAN NOT be replaced with popular upgrades due to the CZ slide design on these pistols. Buy a P01 (if you can find one)
I think you are in correct. In South Africa you can replace your sights on a P07 with tritium nights, fiber optics you even get raised sights for the threaded barrel version.
Sig for me
What light do you have on it? Do you have a link to the flashlight you have on the P2022?
Stream light TLR-1. Also consider the O-LIGHT BALDR mini. Not the best light in the world, but for the money it’s good. It comes with a laser and recharging capability.
does anyone know if the CZ will use modified fs92 mags?? or any of the CZ model?
save money if you have a stack of 92 mags as I do
If you were born without the gift of modifying don't blame me idiot.
Austin I have a question. I just bought the same p-07 that you have but, I have notice that my magazine button wiggles a bit when the mag is not inserted have you notice this with yours?
I just pulled mine out to check and you are right. Mine also has some play in it with no magazine inserted. Seems to have no negative affects on the function though. Looks like it is just a matter of no pressure (from insertion of the magazine) being applied to the magazine release and spring assembly.
Austin B Thanks for your help. I was starting to think I had a defected gun.
MonkeyWith72Magic Not a problem, enjoy your new P-07!
Is the P07 Duty basically the same as the standard P07, but just has a bigger magazine?
+tuck234 P-07 Duty is the older model with subtle differences such as lack of forward slide serrations, different sights, no interchangeable backstraps, etc.
Thanks!
Interesting thanks for the video got wonder if the CZ will give glock a run for the money
Anyone know if Sig226 mags will work in the Sig Sauer SP2022 and EAA Witness P mags will work in the CZ P-07?
ghost101049 No, the 226 mag will not work on the 2022.
No they don’t. Someone gave me a 226 mag and I had a 2022 so I dremmeled out the mag catch holes about a half inch higher on the mag and it worked
Thank you both for replying back
the trigger reset on the 2022 atleast on the .40 cal is terrible.
P07 FOR ME
Can somebody put these two against each other: the P-07 and P-09, which one would get on top and why? Would P-09 be measurably more accurate? Please share your thoughts based on your experiences, people! Austin B dear, can you share the reasons why you didn't include Canik striker guns in the category of the best value guns?
I haven't done a video comparing the P-07 to the P-09 yet because I find them so similar. I shoot them both almost equally the same, the controls are identical, sights identical, triggers are identical. Really the only noticeable difference is the size. I find the P-07 fits my hand a little better but the P-09 isn't bad either. I would most definitely include Canik's striker guns as some of the best value on the market I just don't have enough trigger time with them to make a video yet. Thanks for watching!
Well done review. My question is where do you find these guns for $370?! I see the Sig around for $400+ and the CZ for $500 +/-. thanks
Thanks for watching. I grabbed the SP2022 from Kentucky Gun Company and I got the CZ on gunbroker. I will admit I was price watching for a long while. I know that Palmetto State Armory, Kentucky Gun Co and Bud's all run specials on the SP2022s fairly often. The CZ is harder to find under $400 although the P-07 Duty can be found pretty regularly around $375.
check slickguns....generally they'll have a list of places with the best prices
Both nice pistols but the Sig has a slight edge on feel the cz feels a little cheesy and the 2022 feels like a quality pistol.
Really CZ feels way better in the hand sig is bulky
SAVAGE _ O.G I hated my sig
+Chris Carter sold the 2022 got CZ way more impressed!!
I'm gonna guess b4 I see this vid, the Sig has the better DA trigger.
P07
sigs are nice.
Michael Saavedra, not sure why I can't reply directly to your question but I hope this will help. I do not own an FNX-9 but I do own an FNX-45. If I had to choose between an FNX and the P-07 I would take the P-07. The FNX has an advantage in capacity at 17+1 vs 15+1 on the P-07 but I think that is the only advantage. The P-07 has a better trigger, I feel that the FNX triggers are a little longer and they feel mushy at the break point unlike the P-07 which is very crisp. I also prefer the sights on the P-07 as they are easier for me to pickup quickly.
Austin B I have an FNP and I have fired an FNX. The FNP has a nicer trigger out of the box. It's a shame they stopped making them.
CZ Shooter I have heard that before but unfortunately I was never able to try one before they discontinued them. Thanks for the reply!
+Matthew Caughey I have a TP9-SA. It is a good choice if you like a striker fired operating system. I wouldn't say it is better than the SP2022 or the P-07 though but everyone's preferences are different.
+Matthew Caughey lol, I had one of those P.O.S.. & the slide would not even lock back & customer service would not even respond,,. shitty gun with even shittier customer service..lol- shoot on.
I own a TP9SA (2 actually since my Dad passed) and a P-07 V2... IMO the TP9SA's trigger is amazing for the cost of the pistol, but the P-07's is amazing ++. The CZ's a totally different animal, but in SA mode the CZ Omega Trigger feels more like one of my worked over bolt-gun triggers. The TP9SA's trigger is a bit rougher and mushier, although the reset and break are both very good and very functional. I find that dry-firing the CZ feels worlds better then the Canik (I also own a couple Canik CZ Clones and those triggers while not as good as the real CZ's are pretty dam good and slightly "better" then the TP9SA/SF's Walther style SA/Striker set-ups) but that when live-firing, and esp. moving and firing/not focusing on the trigger so intently, it's a lot less noticeable and the TP9SA really does impress in live-fire. I still give the nod to the P-07 but the Canik, as everyone's been talking about for the last few years, is one of those "sleeper" pistols that really punches above it's price class would suggest. But then so is the P-07 really (got my V2 for US$424.99my TP9SA's for US$370.00 a piece so you're not saving much with the Canik).
All that blathering to say: They're two different animals and I personally enjoy owning both because I get a lot of joy out of the "High-value" pieces of gear. If I had to pick one it's be the CZ P-07/09 without much thinking although for the cost of a single "mid-level" SIG you could have both (to be fair SIG prices the P30/250 clones a LOT more comparably in the Polymer market then say HK whos prices confuse me after not being terribly blown away by any of the HK's I've shot but that's just my opinion so take for what it;s worth: Not a lot). I like the DA/SA/Hammer set-up in teh CZ, esp. as a carry gun like I use mine, but for a cheap, occasional "fun-comp gun" I've had great luck with the Canik and pissed off more then a few guys who didn't like getting beat out by "one of those junk terrorist pistols" as they put it (and esp. not by a guy who's not part of the regular comp. crowd... people are fu... funny, people are funny)... Haven't had the P-07 long enough to use it in a comp setting but I'm betting it'll be pretty awesome. It's one of the most accurate pistols I've ever owned and it shoots so dam soft it's incredible.
Where did you get the CZ for that price? The best I have seen is 440.00. Post if you can
allen leaird Gunbroker. I searched for a few months and finally was able to snag one for a great price.
You have the best, no nonsense, reviews. I hope you continue reviewing more guns. I like the fact you are honest and not working for one of the suppliers and it shows. Very good use of time and detail. NEED MORE.
Thanks Allen
allen leaird Allen, thank you very much! I just want to make videos to help folks get a good close look at some of the guns I own so they can make an informed purchase. Glad you like my videos so far, will definitely see more from me in the future. Thanks, Austin
How's the bore axis compare between the two? My guess is the CZ is probably lower (generally they always are), but I might be wrong as I don't know much about the SP2022...Also, which would you say has more manageable recoil? I prefer 40 cal for 2 legged critters, but it is pretty snappy at times, especially out of a friend of mines G23. So, with that said overall which do you think is more manageable if they were in 40? Also, I'm left handed, so with that in account which do you think I would be better with, and do you know if the mag release is reversible on either one? Thanks.
The CZ has a lower bore axis and I would assume the recoil would be more manageable with .40 but I have shot either in .40 before. I know the P07 mag release can be swapped to the right side but I am unsure on the SP2022.
sp2022 is one badass pistol" 🕺🕺🕺🕺🕺🕺💃💃
Not a fan of Sig Sauer. I had a SP2022 that wouldn't eject, a p365 where the firing pin and a320 that had to be sent back for an update. I have a PO7 po9 none of them have ever been sent
Which would u prefer cz 75 p07 or an fnx 9. The fnx 9 is about a 50$ price difference
sp2022M has a safety on the slide
omglolwtf I've never heard of the sp2022M. Putting a safety kind of ruins the lines of the gun.
+omglolwtf Would it , 2022M, then have both a safety and decocker, if a Safety was Available?
the grip on the p07 is thinner
Correct, slighty thinner. The P07 grip thickness measures at 1.16" vs 1.25" for the SP2022.
grand power makes a 700 hand gun that goes for 4 bills girls my mk7 is a beast k12 ah....ok too ill take the gen 1 here as well a fantastic arm
Yes, it takes less than 5 minutes to change to the safety on the CZ, but if you decide to go back to the decocker prepare for an hour of hell.
I regret selling my SP2022
Subcompact? Surely compact.
Neither of these are even sub $500 here in CommieFornia. :-(
where did you get the cz for that price?
That's what I want to know!! I've only found them for $450 or so.
I would recommend checking Damascus gun shop often. If you are military you can also buy direct from CZ for a generous discount.
Does CZ sell weapons directly? What do you mean by "buying directly from CZ"? You can't buy from their website directly i think
+Marles M You can buy direct from CZ. You just need to call them.
Nice guns but I think the slope rear sight on the Cz is kinda lame. I’d rather have a ledge on it for one handed manipulation than the sloped. I’ve never had any snagging issues reholstering a pistol under my shirt I think it’s a silly thing that fudds came up with a long time ago. Probably why so many 1911’s have sloped rear sights lol
I CANT EVEN FIND A P-07 IN CALIFORNIA
Is it even on the Kali "OK" list??? I've seen other poor souls like yourself in CA asking about them and I thought I read a post on CZ's Forum about them not being "approved" for CA Useage (there are however 10rnd mags available for them so they're legal in other anti-logic states.). I had never seen anything CZ, that wasn't a single, random older/used example for sale, in all the many shops I frequent and have frequented for decades, until I hunted down a true CZ "Registered Dealer" (There was only ONE in a 100-mile radius of my Post-code and we've got a LOT of firearms/Sporting Goods Shops up here). Luckily I scored the last 9mm P-07 for a song but I've never seen another one for sale in a shop up here either, and again... LOTS of places to look. If they are indeed on the list for CA and you haven't yet, go to CZ's site and look for a Dealer, might help (apologies if you've already tried that to no avail), the P-07 is, to me, "something special". It's an incredible deal on a very VERY good pistol that's at the top of it's class among the more common brands/models IMO.
PO7 and PO9 are not Calif approved at this time but the PO1 is.
I have the sig 2022, HK P2000, HK USP compact and a Glock 17. The Glock 17 is trash in comparison.
my cz get 1 I'm in love with what a fantastic pistol who gives a shit about the bulge factor what a non issue i love the extended tail the gen 2 version sucks and fellas the trigger on the first can't be improved upon beautiful poly
I think the czs line is ugly as hell and I have no desire to have one but I haven’t had a chance to shoot one yet either. Now the sig on the other hand I think is extremely pretty
the tail on that sucks its non existent now my gen 1 looks and feels like a 1911 that? sucks
I hope your "fiancé" doesn't watch this....
Josh manzanares She is my wife now :-).