My Online Speed Awareness Course
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- čas přidán 6. 09. 2023
- I was caught speeding on the Isle Of Wight. I opted to do an online speed awareness course instead of points and a fine. This is from my notes I took at the time.
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Bob thanks for being brave and making this video. As a Retired Roads Policing Sergeant I’m embarrassed to say I actually don’t know how many fatal road crashes I’ve attended, it’s a lot. I’ve seen the devastating results of things going wrong on our roads. The name of the game is for everyone to get home safely. Thanks for sharing.
Yes, my uncle was on Traffic, he saw the carnage.
Just did mine this morning. Really good reminder about why you need to take care without any telling off and some things I shamefully didn't know after over 30 years driving 😮
Yeah the 8mph impact was the thing that shook me the most on mine! Thanks for sharing this
Hello Bob I just wanted to say that you should not feel embarrassed as I think you are an excellent driver. It amazes me how well you drive your motor home with a car attached. Take care and best wishes to you, Jenny and Poppy xxx
Thank you
I went through a speed awareness course 10 years ago and it was £90.00 it was held at the hotel at scotch corner and it waived the £60.00 and 3 points 👍 this by the way was in my HGV ! keep up the good work Bob and Jenny and Poppy n Tara 😊
Well at least the courses haven't gone up much.
Hats off to you Bob, for being open about the speeding. It’s easily done, when anyone does a lot of driving, like you, can easily be distracted by the scenery. You’re obviously a very good and experienced driver. It only takes that small distraction, and crikey, you can be snapped by a speed camera. There is no tolerance with these cameras, 30mph, means 30 mph, etc. Having the speed alert is very useful. No shame to you, Bob, you haven’t committed a very serious speeding offence. Thanks for this very informative vlog and regards to Jenny.
Well there is some allowance, they don't normally prosecute people doing less than the limit + 10% + 2 mph. So the speed awareness course starts at 35 mph and above.
Brilliant Bob thank you doing mine tomorrow
You showed great courage and leadership doing this Bob - very well done !
Appreciated!
Thank you for sharing with us, Bob. 👏
Thanks for listening
thanks mate that's was very helpful ..and thanks for a sharing
This applies to site speed limits too! It's 5 mph for a reason!
Just done the same course but in the classroom. I very rarely speed but like you i had other things on my mind and crept up to 35. I thought it was harsh but when seeing the video about how much difference 1mph makes I changed my mind! Another great view Bob.
Hi Bob, I went on a speed awareness course about 9 years ago for doing 34 in a 30. The part that amazed me was I was about the only one who knew the national speed limits and when towing people had no idea. One lady had someone interpreting the language as she didn’t understand the language very well. It was an eye opener and my insurance went up for five years when points only lasted three years. It might be different now, I have a device that beeps at 29 mph. Thank you for this video 👌👍
You probably would have got away with 34 now. I'm always surprised by the number of car drivers who don't know the dual carriageway speeds!
Thank you for Sharing ❤
Thank you
As others have already said - you didn’t have to make a vlog about this but you have and what’s brave and honest thing to do. Hopefully it will make us all think about speeds whilst in the road. 😊
Well said!
1thanks for sharing this, Bob. We all need refresher every now and again because it is so easy to slip into bad habits.
You are very welcome
That is a great video Bob.Well done for your explanations. I did a speed awareness course quite a few years ago now and it changed my driving habits. I got caught doing 56 n a 40. That sounds horrendous I know but I knew the road like th back of my hand and when I was working I drove it every day. It was a country road with National Limit. I even saw the van that caught me and commented to my passenger that he would catch a few that day. I could not believe it when I got the letter that I had been caught speeding. I went the following week and drove the same road and it was everywhere. On the road, on signs, on repeaters, everywhere! I could not believe it. I attended the course and enjoyed it. I learned so much from it and since then I adhere to the speed limits. After all, it is a limit, not a target! Ian
hi Bob, many thanks for this. I use my cruise control a lot of the time, even in 30 zones and when towing. this prevents me from speed creeping. safe journeys
Great tip!
Well done, you, for being brave enough to video this. We ALL make silly mistakes while driving from time to time, and mostly, we are lucky enough to get away with it. It's clear this course is very thought-provoking and is probably a better choice than taking the points. This video has certainly made me think. Thanks, Bob. 😊
Good to hear that.
Great video and thanks for sharing your experience. All really good reminders for everyone and very well summarised by you.
My pleasure!
What a superb video Bob, thanks, as a retired professional driver, ,I got 3 points some years ago from mobile camera can parked under a bridge, through lack of concentration. A proportion of drivers don't lift their eyes up far enough ,and only drive to the length of the bonnet and are not aware of their surroundings
With new cars and better engines and the new 20 mph zones , it is difficult to keep to 20 without creeping up , the sat nav tip seems a great idea
Good video Bob, well said. I did one of these about 12 years ago and like you, learned plenty of helpful tips. We have a SAM2 device in our village and every month it logs at least one vehicle travelling in excess of 70mph !!
No that's crazy in villages!
Thank you Bob for sharing. My husband Andy went on a speed awareness course when we were living in the UK. It definitely helped him afterwards to become aware of the speed he was driving and to stop always rushing from one job to the next. Drives at a much more leisurely pace now living in Portugal if only the locals did the same! Remember me to Jenny. Best wishes Susan (Jenny's cousin)
Thanks, just told Jenny you commented, thanks.
Thank you. This was very helpful and informative .
Glad it was helpful!
I've been there & done it about a year ago. On-line like you. An education.
Thank you Bob for sharing, it can happen to anyone. I use the cruise control for most of the journey, if I can, even at 30, especially if the roads are quiet, which has saved me a few times from speed creep. So easy to find yourself doing 30+ 40+ etc, in no time, some roads psychologically tells you this is too slow, and you end up increasing your speed. I’ve been driving for more than 50 years and I’m sure textbook wise at least, I would fail the test today. So much change since the early 70’s. Happy travels.
It seems even easier to speed in the motorhome than the car, I guess because you're further from the road. Using the cruise control is a good tip. I tend to do that in the car in 30mph zones. I need to do the same in the motorhome.
I hope this video can help save lives, just as the courses do. We all have family, young and old and everyones behaviour matters on the road. Amazing video well done 👏
Yes, and I wish people took more pride in how they drive. Far too many treat the car like an magic carpet that automatically gets them somewhere.
Good man for sharing Bob, it could happen to anyone and yes speed creep is a
biggie. When you admit to yourself that you've made an error that's half the battle.
One thing I learned that stuck with me from day 1 was how many people are caught speeding by camera, by on board police car detectors, hand held units, or even tachograph readings etc etc.
One that many people don't think about is being caught by other road users.
Example in my area 360 children were hit by speeding motorists in a year, those motorists and those kids really were the unlucky ones.
The luckier ones were caught by cameras etc etc.
I try to remind myself every time I drive how that would feel if I slipped up.
I had to take medical retirement due to a damaged spine. I had done nowt wrong that day in the 1990s when that speeding motorist was caught by the rear of my car and changed my life forever.
I have one of these courses in a couple of days. I was caught doing 35mph in a 30 zone. So I've just looked up video's on the course. Thank-you
Well Bob, It's a true saying. You are never too Old to learn. PS. My current car has head up display, this is a first for me, but what it does do is display the speed limit on each road, and if you stray more than Five percent above the limit shown, the speed roundel starts flashing at you, Didn't think I would like the head up display, but as it's in your eye line, you cant help but see it. Cheers Bill
There must be something in the water Bob. I received my first ever speeding fine recently. I was on a motorway too busy reading the overhead signs as to which lane I needed to be in, never noticed I’d entered a speed restriction area 🙁 I’ve chosen to attend a speed awareness course.
Hi Bob, it was good to hear what you had to do on your speed awareness course. It was also very brave of you to tell us about what happened. I got a speeding fine many years ago for coming out of a garage turning right and just up the road there was a van with a speed camera, I was doing 34 in a 30 limit. At the time there wasn't any courses to do so paid the fine and had 3 points put on my licence. I was mortified and it seemed to take so long to get my points back. So was concious all the time of keeping within the speed limit. I had a feature which bleeped when i came to the speed of the area especially the A614 near us as there were no speed limits on the road until a terrible fatal accident where it killed youngsters in a car and also 2 grandparents coming from the opposite direction. Because that road has hidden dips. Then they put the average speed camera's up on the road which slowed the traffic down to 50 . take care x Julie and Tony x
Yes, the speed limits are often there for a reason.
I had to do one too several years back.
Good advice Bob. Years ago I went on a passive driving course at work and the best advice that the instructor gave us was, don't be part of someone else's accident. If they want to drive, like an idiot, let them go. Those words have always stuck with me.
Yes, don't let other's driving get to you. Great advice.
I feel your pain and think you are a very safe driver with Jenny as your co pilot
Good vlog there Bob I to have attended a speed awareness course and it opens your eyes on how easy it is to go over the limit and the devastating outcome it can do and one of my sayings now is Far better to be late getting anywhere in this world than be to early to be in the next one
Absolutely, far too many drivers drive like they're not worried about any afterlife!
Well done for being so open and honest about your speeding. I will be more vigilant after watching your video.
Thank you kindly
I did one a few years ago Bob thought it was very enlightening tbh
Brilliant insight to the speed awareness course much appreciated. I’m doing mine tomorrow Saturday…
You're very welcome
Interesting video Bob, thankyou for the insight. Anything that raises awareness has to be a good thing. To be honest in my opinion everyone who holds a license should be made to attend speed awareness courses every few years just to keep people aware of the consequences of not only driving too fast but other factors too.
Absolutely, or at least some sort of refresher?
Good sharing mate.. Cheers all the way from Malaysia 👍👍
Good sincerity.
Thank you
Well done Bob. I hope many viewers of your channel take heed. Here, in Portugal, they introduced 30 new speed cameras on 1st September, resulting in 6000 fines on that day. Tailgaiting, jumping infront, travelling in the centre lane of a motorway are all predominant here. Oh, and I am sure indicators are an optional extra, even on new cars.
Keep yoyr vlogs coming.
Thanks for sharing
Well said thanks for that. I'd be devastated to get caught speeding after 40 years clean licence. Scary information and a lesson learnt for me too❤
Yes it was a wake up call for me.
Bob .Happened to me last year. Purely lack of concentration was listening to my Grandchildren in back of car. Made me realise how stupid speeding is especially with kids in car. I also have motorhome with same sat-nav as you and I have the alarm beeps on all the time and my wife watches my speed at all times. Now biggest confession I am a retired police officer and a double advanced driver and have handed out loads of tickets in my time. So I DO feel your pain . Hopefully none of us are too old to learn. All the very best.
Yes we need to minimise those distractions.
I did the classroom course and enjoyed it. I learned lots and thought everybody should attend one. It really made me think and concentrate more.. well done on your explanation. I’m sure it will help a lot of people 👏🏼😁
I totally agree!
Well done you bob for taking it on the chin 👍 .. like to think am a good driver & aware of speed conditions but sometimes like you your more aware of the scenery that a few mph over..last time for me was in 1987 on a motorbike which was a a 30 limit & mine was as few over that..anyway get back to enjoying driving 👍
Thanks for sharing your experience of the speed awareness course - some useful reminders - there but for the grace of God go I; personally I attempt to keep a minimum of a 3 second gap cf. 2 sec
wouldn't worry about
Well done for attending the course. I’ve done 2 courses, purely to avoid points, no other reason. As long as there is more than 3 years between being caught on camera and within the, what used to be 10 mph above the designated speed limit of the road, they have to offer it. They work on the principle it will be easier to change the driving habits of someone who was “just over the limit” rather than someone who was “way over”. I’d like to know what they are trying to do to teach the millions of drivers who shouldn’t be driving as they have no road awareness or driving skills - nothing is the answer.
I’m on my course on Monday Bob. I have confession this will be my third course first time online. So annoyed with myself.
Good to you Bob for sharing this along with your learnings and Action Plan - to be honest I find crwling in 30mph limit extremely difficult. Glad you avoided a 5 year prison semtence😮
Or points on my licence.
One Mississippi..two Mississippi is a handy saying to keep the two second gap. Well done Bob as I don't mind driving a van but not with a car on the back as well....looking forward to watching you all on future vlogs.
Thanks 👍
Thanks Bob, the best and most useful video on the speed awareness course among those I have seen. Fair play to you.
As a certified motorcycle tour guide I have participated in range of safety and training courses and it has taught me that I have much to learn still. Your video contains important lessons. Yes driving or riding a little faster can be pleasant but the associated risks are significant. We need to be aware of that.
The risk of killing a child when colliding at 20 mph apparently is 1 in 10: at 30 mph this is said to increase to 9 in 10.
In rainy conditions the stopping time, which is reaction time and braking distance increases significantly.
Research has shown that 80% of drivers overestimate their abilities (and competence), motorcycle instructors recently stated that they thought this might be as much as 90% for bikers. Perhaps we should all take the time and review the Highway Code and recent changes in particular.
I think an added issue for drivers of taller vehicles like motorhomes, is there is a lesser perception of speed being further away from the ground.
You certainly have a point about the state of our roads. They are a disgrace.
@@pup1008 indeed, the state of the roads - and other issues - do regularly present a serious problem depending on where you live. Punishing minor digressions is counterproductive so I would agree that in some instances your point is valid.
Having spent the best part of last weekend and some days last week on the road, I have to say though that there doesn't appear to be enough of a deterrent for speeding, and ridiculous speeds at that. Frankly appalling what I witnessed over the last few days.
Having said that, reasonable approach is indeed called for but keeping in mind that minor differences in speed with vehicles can have big consequences already let's not refer to people who blatantly disregard speed limits and many other rules, especially in areas and at times where that presents a serious risk such the vicinity of schools or other, as law-abiding souls.
I remember there being a public information film when i was a kid about "only a fool breaks the two second rule". I regularly say it in my head. Sometimes when I'm driving too! 😂
Yes, I seem to remember those public information films, like the green cross code...
@@BobEarnshawMoHo ... and the kid playing frisbee into a power station! Some were terrifying!
It's not only watching speed, you've got to read the road. A lot of drivers don't read the road and drive along totally oblivious to everything all around them and especially what's happening ahead of them . When I was learning to drive in the 1970s, we'd have lessons where my driving instructor would ask me to relate all that I was seeing (any hazards, side roads, zebra crossings ahead, road signs, pedestrians, cyclists, animals, etc etc) as I was driving along. He would then ask me to pull over and stop, and inform me of anything that I may have missed seeing. Very valuable lessons and teaches the driver to be very very observant. I wonder if driving instructors actually do that these days ? I'll have to ask my 17 year old grandaughter..... she recently passed her driving test, so she ought to know. Personally, I don't really agree with a speed awareness course being an alternative to receiving penalty points. Penalty points for speeding and having to go on a speed awareness course both ought to be mandatory for anyone caught speeding. Plus, speed awareness courses ought to be mandatory for every new driver.
Yes, some people seem to drive as if they have an autopilot and are completely oblivious to everything and everyone around them.
I unfortunately got caught in my Talbot Express Kontiki doing 35 in a 30mph in North Wales, going up a hill climb.
Dare I say, the TOC members and I were somewhat amused I managed to get a Talbot up a hill at that speed!
Speed awareness course taken and lesson's definately learnt!
Fair play Bob, I am as guilty slipping over the limit at times. I am driving a heavier than 3500 kg van. I stick to the HGV limits , but it’s easy to forget which vehicle i am in at times , i.e my car or my wife’s car versus the MH . I tend to drive the motorhome with the total holiday head on , never in a hurry, i dont have to work the new auto 9 speed box the same to get up to speed. Not criticizing manual, just my in ability to get the best from the manual box is the reality. Thank you for sharing.
I find that the sensation of speed is slightly less in the motorhome, so if anything, I drive a little faster in the motorhome than my little car.
Well done for confessing ! From Monday for us those 30 mph roads with street lights become 20 mph roads something I’m worried about !! Regarding using cruise control remember if you have a smart alternator it stops charging if you put cruise control on - there’s a video for you with your new meter 👍
My current van doesn't have a smart alternator, but that could be a problem.
a cop overtook me in my motorhome once round bristol area doing about 75 80 mph and nearly caused a terrible accident all he done was put his hand saying sorry to me and drove on if i could have stopped him i would of had him in front of a judge the next day end of thanks bob your a cracking driver so all is good take care
Thanks for this in put
Yes I find tailgating and it’s always range rovers
Audis and BMWs sitting or overtaking me in long hanborough when I’m doing 40 mph they sail past doing 50 plus
I pull over in bus stops to let them pass
It’s difficult
And yes when I’m looking at the scenery or low flying aircraft yes I fully understand
I think your a great driver and thanks for sharing
So I will say keep safe and videos are great
Thank you
Well done Bob, I can see this video was difficult to make as you felt so ashamed, Don't worry pal, you and I both know most people speed whether they do it intentionally or not, you were just distracted as most of us are with driving in general.
Making videos on the road has come at some cost, you and Jenny do it very well, your directions are the Best, you are so informative and entertaining.
I applaud you for making this video as I know it has made me think, I'm sure many others have too, you make some great points and who knows by making this video you may have saved someones life, injury or car damage at the very least, so feel good about that.
Braking really is something to think about, the newer cars can react quicker than any human can, I've seen it many times, 3 - 5 car pile ups and more, I feel that 2 second gap needs to be longer as the sharpest brakes can be the cause of pile ups, of course people should be more careful and not follow too close, I hate when I look in the mirror and cant see the bonnet but I can see the drivers face.
Thanks again for that video, tap yourself on the back, I do feel the financial costs were steep.
Yes, a very good point about braking distances, some modern cars have adaptive cruise control, which can react in milliseconds, so increasing the distance is important.
im on the Isle of Wight too Bob and got mine tomorrow morning....bloody happened up at Leeson Road , Ventnor a week before it closed !! doh
Yes, think they are quite keen there.
Them cameras are so sneaky sometimes. I was once driving back from Skipton to find a mobile one tucked in a corner half way up/down a hill which I didn’t think was fair.
I like to drive slowly and welcome speed restrictions. However, I often feel very uncomfortable when it seems like I'm holding up all the traffic.
I continually look at the speed on the Garmin Camper which is much better than trying to keep looking down at the speedo.
I do pay attention, probably too much but they got me in Austria at 37km/h (better than 37mph). I don't like constantly banging the breaks but entering small villages means hard braking between the 2 signs or allowing a slightly longer slow down. My guess is that if you put cameras right on the 30kmh sign, most people would get flashed. For the locals it's "once bitten" but for non-locals, it's pay even more attention than you're already paying or else.
Always more difficult to tell the limits in unfamiliar places.
Hi Bob hope you and Jenny and
Poppy are well
A very informative video and I remember when I did the course in 2017 it was very eye opening and realised I had become complacent over my driving career
I had done 34 in a 30 in Bromsgrove and caught by a mobile van I hadn’t seen getting home after work and not concentrating
My wife got caught in rowley Regis doing 35 in a 30
And couldn’t have the course so she had points like me she hadn’t seen a mobile camera getting home after work I have certainly concentrated more since then and applied what I learnt that day
Most people found it useful and recognised what they did wrong and some who were quite critical
Of the course
All the best to you both Daniel
Thanks, yes most people find the courses beneficial.
Good video. You don't have to tell your insurer that you have been on a speed awareness course unless they ask you on the proposal. You will know this. A speed awareness is not a conviction and therefore you do not have to tell them, unless you are insured with Admiral who will ask the question and you need to be honest or they will invalidate your insurance. In the case of Admiral a speed awareness course will impact the premium, but shouldn’t impact it as much as a speeding endorsement. So you correctly say Bob, that the course is almost as much as the fine but you do not get the convictions with the course - convictions will affect your premium for at least 5 years. As for me, I got caught doing 33mph in a 30mph zone so the lesson to all is keep your eyes on the speedo!
Bob some information for folks heading north, there is still no speed awareness course option available in Scotland
Bob McKay did his in Berwick.
I done a speed awareness course in class room there was 30 people in there and more than half was caught doing 26-28 in a 20 zone
Good on you for doing this vlog. Not sure if you're aware but as of 17/9 Wales is reducing 30mph down to 20mph on all restricted roads so if you're coming this way be on the lookout as they are booking drivers.
Yes, one or two viewers have mentioned that. Going to be interesting on Wales' roads.
Did notice different areas different prices! My mate had to pay £130 for the course in Dorset. How come? Well done for sharing Bob!👍
Different providers I assume can set different prices.
id love to know where all the money there taking from us is going
To the companies running them, hopefully it will continue so we can avoid points on the license.
I have just been clipped at 82 in a 70 ( motorway);
Been offered the alternative course which I shall take up ,
Not sure wether to do online or classroom..
I’m not to bothered about being clipped as I was due for a ticket at some point considering I have had a clean license for 25 years and I estimate that since I last had a point I have driven approximately 2.5 million miles ..
I’m a Hgv driver in uk and Europe over that time .
Good video and you have no need to reproach yourself.
Yes, well done for avoiding the tickets for 25 years.
High Bob watched your video and thought how good you are with your speed awareness,just got home from a tour of Cornwall and you guessed it I received a speeding ticket,there is no mention of a speed awareness course in the paper work ,do you have to apply some how to get on a course.TIA regards Mark.
All the information on speed awareness was with the letter from Hampshire constabulary, together with the options. Best to contact Cornwall Constabulary.
@@BobEarnshawMoHo Thank you Bob kind of you to reply.regards Mark.
What about when the 30 mph becomes 20mph in Wales? Will be a lot of speeding fines
That's the point,hit the motorist again ,easy money for them,,!!
Exactly what they are dreaming of.
John Aston - better than hitting a pedestrian,!
Just finished this same online course. I got caught doing 38 on a 30 road. It was late evening and I was not being attentive to the road signs. The key points for me were the stopping distances. Having to brake suddenly for a hazard at just 31 mph instead of at 30 mph could mean very expensive repairs or broken bones instead of a slightly raised heart beat. 'Nuff said.
Yes, I didn't see the signs, just admiring the scenery!
Informative and public-spirited post, Bob. Embarrassment 2x here…. was driving to a teacher meeting and said I’d lead the way for a teacher friend who was following in his car & was unfamiliar with the area. Didn’t notice the road change from 40 mph to 30… went blithely sailing on. Got done - and so did he following behind. (I probably should have offered to pay for his awareness course.) The guilt lingers years later. But lesson remembered.
I can see that was embarrassing.
Thank you for this. I don’t drive but my husband and daughter do. No speeding to date but from 17 th September here in Wales anywhere with street lights is dropping to 20 mph unless otherwise stated. I anticipate a lot of speeding tickets for the general public as 20 is really slow. I’m all for road safely but a lot of people are against it. It cost 33 million pounds to bring this in. My daughter will have to leave a lot earlier to get to work. 30 mph zones will be dropping to 20. So anyone coming to Wales please take note.
A lot of the roads in Southport are 20mph, I suppose the thinking that most people in those zones will be doing under 30mph?
Like you Clare, I’m in Wales and just received the “information leaflet” about the country wide 30 down to 20. I agree, in modern cars it’s ridiculously slow. Presumably the Welsh Government will pay for all the clogged up diesel engines that will result in driving at walking pace?
@@SmiffsBeardies yes it is really slow. I don’t know how many accidents it will prevent as you will always get the joy riders. We had a fatal accident by us on the main road, young lads speeding, so sad but you will always get them. It’s not so much lowering the speed limit it’s the cost of £33 million that could be spent on the NHS which is in a dreadful state.
Well done you better to have the knowledge ....Wales new speed limit restricted roads 20 mph from 17th september, that will take a while for the brain to get used to that .
BOB GREAT VIDEO, i DO THINK PART OF THE PROBLEM IF YOU HAVE AN OLD VECHILE is knowing what the speed limit is, apologies for the capitols, i was not aware i had engaged caps lock, I don't think you need to feel bad
I know I rely on the Sat Nav.
Hi Bob been doing some simple maths which I found quite interesting. Driving at 1mph extra for 1 hour you will travel an extra 5,280ft which is an extra 88ft in a minute or 1.46ft per second (approx 17inches) which means an absolutely maximum extra stopping distance of 5.86ft if it take you 4 seconds to come to a halt. I stand corrected if my 50 years old maths are wrong 🤣🤣
Don't expect me to check your maths, 😊 what I remembered is at 31 mph the car hit the boxes it previously stopped in front of, still doing 8mph. So I guess an extra 7mph would make even more difference!
Bob, I was caught speeding in Germany when I lived out there. Silly situation, a man parked illegally and just beyond was a slight curve in the road, and then flash! My speeding was quite minimal, civic offence no points on my licence. Oh well.......
My partner went on the course after learning he was driving on a duel carriage way in a van too fast, it is 10mph less, i do think all drivers should do a course every so many years, for all the new laws etc as they do change without most knowing. ( free courses though)
Yes, free refresher courses would be good, can't see that happening though 😊
I did one around 10 years ago (Satnav and speed limit differed !) I thought it was quite informative, but after it finished one of the people on the course with me jumped in his car sped off and jumped a red light right outside the venue 😡
They were unfazed by the course then!
dont worry bob i live in wales we have a 20mph speed limit of which none of us have a clue of where this applies i am travelling through wales on the 17th sept the day this comes in so i think i will be joining you
It sounds like all the 30mph zones are now 20mph?
The 2 second gap between vehicles could also have the added benefit of avoiding “crash for cash” scenarios.
Yes good point.
Thanks Bob, when I can book the online course, there are like 6/7 different ones... Do you know if I have to do all of them?
You only need to do the speed awareness course if you've been caught speeding of course and the police should offer a range of police referred locations or providers. Otherwise, if you are interested, contact Drive Tech directly www.drivetech.co.uk
It’s a shame the satnav (assuming Avtex one still) doesn’t have alarm only if you’re over the limit and approaching it. My Garmin dashcam I have in the car and used to have in the van had a handy feature where it warned you of speed vans and camera but also if you’re at the limit or above starts making a racket. That’s quite a handy feature, wonder if the tourer two can be set to do that, will have a look.
Sounds like lots of useful info and again sorry to hear you got caught, hopefully you can put it behind you now.
I don’t know how some folks manage to operate multiple cameras, fly a drone etc while driving, I would certainly find it far too distracting as your focus needs to be on the road and what’s going on there 🤔
Hope you and Jenny have a lovely weekend,
All the best, David & Rachel 👍
It beeps when you are in a 30mph zone. It was set to single beep, I've now set it to beep continuously in a 30 zone.
I am 67 and I know my concentration levels are not as good as they used to be. But, the speed limits vary far more now than they used to, I mean urban areas used to be 30mph, nowadays you can have 3 or 4 changes of speed limits in a very short space so drivers dont always know what the limit is, especially if you are in an unfamiliar area, or if its a while since you travelled a particular road. Sometimes driving can be a nightmare. 🎉🎉
Yes, the Isle of Wight spped limits were constantly changing from 40 to 30 and back, easy to lose track.
I did it as well Bob so don't think that you are on your own.. I was doing 33 mph in a 30 mph zone .. my road is 30 mph & the traffic is doing 35 mph plus every day..
In the 1970's I was caught twice within 6 months and in those days a third would have meant a ban. As driving was essential for my job and I was driving 20/40,000 miles per year the next two and a half years before those points were wiped went very slowly, as did I. Over the next 50 years I've probably driven in excess of 1M miles but I've never forgotten that period. I've been lucky at times, as you say your speed can creep if you get distracted for a few moments and modern day speed limiters and sat nav warnings can be really useful.
At least we have the Speed Awareness course, gives us chance to reflect on our driving.
Hi Bob. You didn't mention insurance ? Having been caught speeding myself once, I weighed up the chances of being caught again. Rightly or wrongly, I chose to not let my insurer's know. Friends in the same boat, have let their insurer's know and their premium didn't alter at all. Any ideas on that front ? Also, the two second rule is great in a car. In our 3.5 tonne Motorhome, on a motorway, I allow six minutes at least !!! I believe that we are all decent drivers. You can't be a 'Boy Racer' in a motorhome. 0 to 60 in 15 minutes, unless going up a hill !!
I had my insurance renewal just before, so I mentioned the Speed Awareness when renewing, it makes no difference and they didn't need to know. Points they do.
Very helpful :-) I paid for the course 90 pounds, but how do I pay for the penalty which is 100 pounds? Couldn't find any link for that. Can you please tell me? Thank you!
For me it was in the letter from Hampshire Constabulary, I had three options, take the course, pay the fine or contest it in court.
So easy to make an error especially downhill and where 40goes to 30 ..but they rarely or never catch the really dangerous speeders😮
I suppose and hope the really dangerous drivers end up somewhere else.
They tell you on the course that you don’t have to tell your insurance you were caught spreeding as you have been on the course. If you don’t tell your insurance company they can invalidate your insurance if they find out.
I asked my insurance just that question and they said they aren't bothered if I've done a speed awareness course, but of course it may depend on the company.
Sorry Bob seem to have posted my comment on this against the show video posted yesterday. Hopefully not too much of an issue. Possible to move it ?
I can't move a comment, but it doesn't matter, I still see them.
in my case it was unfair! the speed was 40mph then there was average speed camera then a 30mph sign. I got NIP for driving 35mph in a 30mph zone which is absolutely rubbish.
Yes, unlucky, that's right on the tolerance.
Sorry to hear you were a naughty boy! But good on yer for sharing! EVERYONE speeds at one time or another that includes the Police when NOT on a 'Shout'! It's by how much is the thing? I use my Sat Navs more for checking my speed as more accurate! At 30mph you are travelling at 44 feet a second! So about 30 feet done before you brake or react to a situation if you're fully concentrating! The course clearly has given you food for thought, which is what it's all about! :-)
Very true!
What if the camera has no certificate of its calibration? I use cruise control and the car beeps if i go too fast.
I was speeding and I admited it. What I didn't notice were the 30 mph signs. No excuses from me. Good luck if you want to prove the speed cameras are inaccurate!
Well done for sharing, I am still extremely embarrassed that this happened to me too. I look at my speedometer much more now and not the scenery.
Thanks for sharing
Thanks bob 😊 FYI you can get Teams on Mac I use it on my M2 Mac all the time and on your phone tablet etc