@andrewlogan1555 Is Bob your dad? I can only think you are promoting his video for him. I don't know about you but I've got the ability to turn a video off if I don't like it. You're welcome.
I really made the "tutors" on my course earn their money. But I'd read up on what I could get away with. Without being deemed to be disruptive or not taking part. Both of which are reasons for the tutors to bin you. If they do, apparently you get referred back to the Cops & get points & a fine on top of the fee for the speed awareness course! I got told to stop answering all of their questions & let someone else have a go. I also got told off for helping the guys on my table with the photo round (photos of roads & you're asked to give the speed limit for the road in each photo) There were deliberate red herrings i.e. what looked like 60mph country roads but with street lights, so they were 30mph. My reply was..."Don't complain, I'm helping to improve road safety. Which is what today is all about ISN'T IT?"... My interactions obviously frustrated the tutors but I made sure not to break their rules. The day ended with them asking..."So guys, what have you learnt today?"... My answer was..."To spend even longer staring at my speedometer, rather than observing the road ahead. If that results in me hitting a child. I'll be able to sleep soundly at night. Knowing that I did so at or below the speed limit"... Obviously that went doen like a $hite in a swimming pool, but it's true. Road safety is about observation of all of your surroundings. Not being focused on the speedometer. I predict that the 20mph limit in Wales will actually increase the number of accidents. BTW just for clarification... I used to clock up approx 2500 miles per week as a motorcycle courier in the 1990's. And since then I've owned cars & bikes capable of nearly 3 x the UK national speed limit. Therefore I've either been extremely lucky? Or I'm not a menace on the road. Back in the days before speed cameras & camera vans. There's no way that 37mph in a 30mph would get you pulled over by the Cops. Back then they were genuinely interested in road safety not the generatimg of revenue. Therefore they targeted folk that were speeding at a dangerous level. Not folk that had inadvertently crept over the speed limit.
Sort out the state of our roads, which are dangerous, before you start extracting more money out of decent people to pay for bankrupt *WOKE* council culture & initiatives to keep the *"Fawned over Feckless"* up to their necks in Benson and Hedges & Staffordshire Bull terriers! 😠 *THE FIGHT BACK BEGINS!*
Been thhere Billy yes it's a lot of dosh for whoever but for us it does save what would be an extra charge on insurance for 5yrs when I checked a few years ago .👍
I attended one of these courses today (Gloucestershire), apparerntly the agenda / content for this has one has only been in use for a month and they are already looking at changing it. No phamplet was given out today. The cost apparently varies from area to area and they say that the money here is used to provide things to help others amd raise more awareness of the effects of speed (but that apparently is different in other areas).
I'm actually really looking forward to the course I'm on tomorrow. I really do hope it will open my eyes to things I've missed. I will say now though, that I'm driving a 24 year old car that was clocked doing 35 in a 30 (On a non dangerous stretch of road, one that honestly shouldn't be a 30, it's the London road, near a town, and not even really residential, but still a main road. Honestly, They should probably check wheel speed doing MOT's. I will report back tomorrow on my findings!
Sort out the state of our roads, which are dangerous, before you start extracting more money out of decent people to pay for bankrupt *WOKE* council culture & initiatives to keep the *"Fawned over Feckless"* up to their necks in Benson and Hedges & Staffordshire Bull terriers! 😠 *THE FIGHT BACK BEGINS!*
Hi there! Is the National educational course same as speed awarness course? i was clocked 56 in a 40mph zone by an automatic camera device.(new in that area)
Thanks for that. Very interesting. I got caught last week doing 39 in an a 30. Now hoping I can do the course. I've had a clean licence for donkey's years so fingers crossed. Interesting you are from Dartford. That's where I grew up (Fleet Estate)
Yes flashed. Received letter yesterday, just admitting I was the driver. I assume another letter will follow, telling me how much to pay, or maybe offer me the course
I am going to pay the fine and get points. Simply can’t be arsed going on a course. But if I break speed limit again within next 3 years, will I still be offered the course ?
Hmm, that’s a good point, i would imagine so, seeing as in this case, you have never taken one. But i cant tell you for sure though. You can do the course from home though, online. If you prefer.
@@billy4rocks thanks Billy, yes I’m aware that is an option but simply don’t want to go on course, I’m aware it will be extra 5 to 10 percent on insurance but that’s not to bad.
I was penalised Over the factors that I cannot read and write I have learning difficulties I could not answer some of the questions As a result They have failed me Not realising it was a theory test
Those courses arnt run every day or even five days a week,Do you think they can get 60 people a day or 300 a week just for speeding in their local area? The course by me runs 2 courses a day twice a month with 23 people on each course.That’s 96 people per month at £95 each.I dare say other areas run more courses but three a day five days a week just isn’t correct I’m afraid.
Well on my commute to work every day pretty much every single driver/rider is going over the limit, by varying amounts on the A2, thats 1000’s of people speeding every single day, just on one single road. There are average speed cameras everywhere, and mobile ones, like the one that caught me. I was offered a slot from an option of three over one day, over 5 days a week, there are more than enough drivers to fill these spaces, where i live at least. Maybe they don’t run ir 5 days a week every week, but if they can rake in more money, why wouldn’t they?.
As usual, it's a money making scheme for someone in the know's brother in law. It should only be fines, which should go to filling in pot holes or something, instead of lining pockets. I'm doing a course online soon. Am I going to come away going "Yeah, I'm so aware now"? Am I bollocks. I'm doing it to avoid the points, full stop. If it was just a fine, I'd rather pay the £100. All the forums I've seen ridicule the courses.
im in my 20s never offered my speed awareness course, anyway to request one? (60k miles a year never been caught, and was caught in a volvo s90, what a joke after all the supercars I’ve driven they catch me in a volvo)…
Many years ago tho slightly different, there used to be mobile phone awareness courses but been done away now. What will happen to speed courses in future
I will fight against the ridiculous & highly punitive arbitrary "speeding industry" but if I was caught on my phone I would shake the guy's hand & take all I have coming to me. *THAT* is highly dangerous
Got a speed awareness test in half an hour. If I fail it I get 3 points + I already got another 3 points from another fine. If I get 6 point I will be disqualified as I been driving under 2 years. Wish me luck
I got caught doing 36 in 30 The options given was 88 pounds and speed awareness. 100 pounds with 3 points or court I booked the Course for online on zoom for this Sunday
I just got a ticket too, first time in 30 years, however after watching quite a few videos on what happen next, I am however slightly alarmed as ALL the videos state that they got caught doing 57 in a 50 zone, guess what speed I was 'caught' doing? Yep 57mph. Very suspicious if you ask me.
Yep, mine was 37 in a 30. Lots of 7's aint there? And if you look at the options on the form they make it quite clear that if you want to question it in court you will come away with a fine, costs and maybe more points. Rock and a hard place. Tossers.
I was on a course 3 years ago. One question that the "Instructor" asked all of us was... "What irritates you about other drivers".... Everyone including me came out with no end of what irritated us about others .... After the course finish I realised the truth...and kicked myself. I AM THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN IRRITATE ME...
It's all a money making nonsense! Councils are strapped for cash having squandered public finances & are looking for soft targets. As a professional driver, with over 2 million safe miles under my belt, I have the possibility of losing my licence & livelihood for the "crime" of being slightly above some arbitrary speed limit! It's akin to forgetting to cancel your indicator or turn your main lights on or off! I could walk into Tesco today & walk out with 10 of their finest steaks & some decent French grape juice to go with them & not pay a penny & just get a "warning," I could probably do that 20 times & not even have a hint of the punishment I would get for fleetingly doing 23mph in a 20! Fecking madness! 😠
it s all going to be out of your hand in the next 5-10 years, cars will be restricted to do ONLY the speed limits, the tech is already in new cars. DISGUSTING IMO .......... do they actually teach kids how to cross a road anymore, judging by todays parenting standards, probably not, never mind easy to get the motorist, any pedestrians have to go on a course?
I went on the course many years ago. They said the same thing, that they are not the police. They also said “you are all here because you are guilty, so get that out of your mind now, that was in the past, let’s concentrate on looking forward…and learning”. Was good advice
The you tube on this subject by Bob Earnshaw was more serious and productive. I am not in the mood to hear someone slurping his drink
😂😂 ok take it easy captain fun. I gotta pin this comment. You made my day.
@andrewlogan1555 Is Bob your dad? I can only think you are promoting his video for him. I don't know about you but I've got the ability to turn a video off if I don't like it.
You're welcome.
@@LewieLeway
I did
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@@andrewlogan1555 But can't resist returning!!
I really made the "tutors" on my course earn their money. But I'd read up on what I could get away with. Without being deemed to be disruptive or not taking part.
Both of which are reasons for the tutors to bin you. If they do, apparently you get referred back to the Cops & get points & a fine on top of the fee for the speed awareness course!
I got told to stop answering all of their questions & let someone else have a go. I also got told off for helping the guys on my table with the photo round (photos of roads & you're asked to give the speed limit for the road in each photo)
There were deliberate red herrings i.e. what looked like 60mph country roads but with street lights, so they were 30mph. My reply was..."Don't complain, I'm helping to improve road safety. Which is what today is all about ISN'T IT?"...
My interactions obviously frustrated the tutors but I made sure not to break their rules.
The day ended with them asking..."So guys, what have you learnt today?"...
My answer was..."To spend even longer staring at my speedometer, rather than observing the road ahead. If that results in me hitting a child. I'll be able to sleep soundly at night. Knowing that I did so at or below the speed limit"...
Obviously that went doen like a $hite in a swimming pool, but it's true.
Road safety is about observation of all of your surroundings. Not being focused on the speedometer.
I predict that the 20mph limit in Wales will actually increase the number of accidents.
BTW just for clarification...
I used to clock up approx 2500 miles per week as a motorcycle courier in the 1990's. And since then I've owned cars & bikes capable of nearly 3 x the UK national speed limit.
Therefore I've either been extremely lucky? Or I'm not a menace on the road.
Back in the days before speed cameras & camera vans. There's no way that 37mph in a 30mph would get you pulled over by the Cops. Back then they were genuinely interested in road safety not the generatimg of revenue. Therefore they targeted folk that were speeding at a dangerous level. Not folk that had inadvertently crept over the speed limit.
Sort out the state of our roads, which are dangerous, before you start extracting more money out of decent people to pay for bankrupt *WOKE* council culture & initiatives to keep the *"Fawned over Feckless"* up to their necks in Benson and Hedges & Staffordshire Bull terriers! 😠
*THE FIGHT BACK BEGINS!*
did one years ago and it involved driving too, got one coming up next month flashed doing a few mph over 70 on a motorway
Same here, 31mph in 20mph zone on Sunday morning, empty road. Unmarked police car
Been thhere Billy yes it's a lot of dosh for whoever but for us it does save what would be an extra charge on insurance for 5yrs when I checked a few years ago .👍
I attended one of these courses today (Gloucestershire), apparerntly the agenda / content for this has one has only been in use for a month and they are already looking at changing it. No phamplet was given out today. The cost apparently varies from area to area and they say that the money here is used to provide things to help others amd raise more awareness of the effects of speed (but that apparently is different in other areas).
I'm actually really looking forward to the course I'm on tomorrow. I really do hope it will open my eyes to things I've missed. I will say now though, that I'm driving a 24 year old car that was clocked doing 35 in a 30 (On a non dangerous stretch of road, one that honestly shouldn't be a 30, it's the London road, near a town, and not even really residential, but still a main road.
Honestly, They should probably check wheel speed doing MOT's.
I will report back tomorrow on my findings!
Please report 🙏🏽
Sort out the state of our roads, which are dangerous, before you start extracting more money out of decent people to pay for bankrupt *WOKE* council culture & initiatives to keep the *"Fawned over Feckless"* up to their necks in Benson and Hedges & Staffordshire Bull terriers! 😠
*THE FIGHT BACK BEGINS!*
Thanks for your information sir
I’m no sir, and you are welcome. 🙏
Thank you.
Hi there! Is the National educational course same as speed awarness course? i was clocked 56 in a 40mph zone by an automatic camera device.(new in that area)
I believe so.
…To be honest I’m still in shock that the GS could reach 57mph. 😂
Then you knocked it into 2nd! 😝🤣🤣
Brilliant billy got mine tomorrow 🚒👍
YOU NAUGHTY NAUGHTY BOY!!
Billy, how much would the fine have been for the speeding ticket without the course?
£100, so only £5 difference
Thanks for that. Very interesting. I got caught last week doing 39 in an a 30. Now hoping I can do the course. I've had a clean licence for donkey's years so fingers crossed. Interesting you are from Dartford. That's where I grew up (Fleet Estate)
No problem, so was you flashed but haven’t received the letter yet? They should mention it on there.
Yes flashed. Received letter yesterday, just admitting I was the driver. I assume another letter will follow, telling me how much to pay, or maybe offer me the course
I am going to pay the fine and get points. Simply can’t be arsed going on a course. But if I break speed limit again within next 3 years, will I still be offered the course ?
Hmm, that’s a good point, i would imagine so, seeing as in this case, you have never taken one. But i cant tell you for sure though. You can do the course from home though, online. If you prefer.
@@billy4rocks thanks Billy, yes I’m aware that is an option but simply don’t want to go on course, I’m aware it will be extra 5 to 10 percent on insurance but that’s not to bad.
I was penalised Over the factors that I cannot read and write I have learning difficulties I could not answer some of the questions As a result They have failed me Not realising it was a theory test
Those courses arnt run every day or even five days a week,Do you think they can get 60 people a day or 300 a week just for speeding in their local area?
The course by me runs 2 courses a day twice a month with 23 people on each course.That’s 96 people per month at £95 each.I dare say other areas run more courses but three a day five days a week just isn’t correct I’m afraid.
Well on my commute to work every day pretty much every single driver/rider is going over the limit, by varying amounts on the A2, thats 1000’s of people speeding every single day, just on one single road. There are average speed cameras everywhere, and mobile ones, like the one that caught me. I was offered a slot from an option of three over one day, over 5 days a week, there are more than enough drivers to fill these spaces, where i live at least. Maybe they don’t run ir 5 days a week every week, but if they can rake in more money, why wouldn’t they?.
As usual, it's a money making scheme for someone in the know's brother in law. It should only be fines, which should go to filling in pot holes or something, instead of lining pockets. I'm doing a course online soon. Am I going to come away going "Yeah, I'm so aware now"? Am I bollocks. I'm doing it to avoid the points, full stop. If it was just a fine, I'd rather pay the £100. All the forums I've seen ridicule the courses.
im in my 20s never offered my speed awareness course, anyway to request one?
(60k miles a year never been caught, and was caught in a volvo s90, what a joke after all the supercars I’ve driven they catch me in a volvo)…
Many years ago tho slightly different, there used to be mobile phone awareness courses but been done away now. What will happen to speed courses in future
That needs to be brought back!!
@@billy4rocks traffic cops used to have discretion years ago at roadside but sadly virtually nonexistent
I will fight against the ridiculous & highly punitive arbitrary "speeding industry" but if I was caught on my phone I would shake the guy's hand & take all I have coming to me. *THAT* is highly dangerous
Got a speed awareness test in half an hour. If I fail it I get 3 points + I already got another 3 points from another fine. If I get 6 point I will be disqualified as I been driving under 2 years. Wish me luck
No it’s not a test, unless you are doing something completely different to what i did.
I got caught doing 36 in 30
The options given was 88 pounds and speed awareness. 100 pounds with 3 points or court
I booked the Course for online on zoom for this Sunday
Yeah, when you lay out the options like that, the course is a no brainer.
I just got a ticket too, first time in 30 years, however after watching quite a few videos on what happen next, I am however slightly alarmed as ALL the videos state that they got caught doing 57 in a 50 zone, guess what speed I was 'caught' doing? Yep 57mph. Very suspicious if you ask me.
Yep, mine was 37 in a 30. Lots of 7's aint there? And if you look at the options on the form they make it quite clear that if you want to question it in court you will come away with a fine, costs and maybe more points. Rock and a hard place. Tossers.
I was on a course 3 years ago.
One question that the "Instructor" asked all of us was...
"What irritates you about other drivers"....
Everyone including me came out with no end of what irritated us about others ....
After the course finish I realised the truth...and kicked myself.
I AM THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN IRRITATE ME...
It's all a money making nonsense!
Councils are strapped for cash having squandered public finances & are looking for soft targets.
As a professional driver, with over 2 million safe miles under my belt, I have the possibility of losing my licence & livelihood for the "crime" of being slightly above some arbitrary speed limit!
It's akin to forgetting to cancel your indicator or turn your main lights on or off!
I could walk into Tesco today & walk out with 10 of their finest steaks & some decent French grape juice to go with them & not pay a penny & just get a "warning," I could probably do that 20 times & not even have a hint of the punishment I would get for fleetingly doing 23mph in a 20! Fecking madness! 😠
Nice apart from the coffee drinking at the start 😂
I thought that was the best bit!
@@billy4rocks I got the letter today… I am very close to Bexley / damn!
it s all going to be out of your hand in the next 5-10 years, cars will be restricted to do ONLY the speed limits, the tech is already in new cars. DISGUSTING IMO .......... do they actually teach kids how to cross a road anymore, judging by todays parenting standards, probably not, never mind easy to get the motorist, any pedestrians have to go on a course?
Yh so annoying the price has gone up to £130 now
Has it?! Bloody hell.
Me too I'm in the wrong job
20 mph from 30 is just a cash cow..i got caught going 25.. first time in 16 years..fumming
Got mine next Friday 47mph in a 40mph
THROW AWAY THE KEY!! 😂🙌
I'm 21 on a2 doing my a license next month so the points will kill me 🤣
Guess the speedo showed more than 57🤔🤣.
I went on the course many years ago. They said the same thing, that they are not the police. They also said “you are all here because you are guilty, so get that out of your mind now, that was in the past, let’s concentrate on looking forward…and learning”. Was good advice
That's cheap Billy my brothers on one tomorrow and he's had to pay £130!!
Why’s that then? What was he’s offence?
@@billy4rocks 35 in a 30 mate! Dorset.
@@paullawrence8572 ohh right, similar to mine, i thought it was a set amount. 🤷🏼♂️
It's a money grab
Slurp slurp dribble dribble slurp slurp.
Oddly enough that is exactly what it says on my tinder profile.
@@billy4rocks Ah synchronicity, a powerful phenomenom👍