Thank you so much... I’ve been driving 39 years with a clean licence and I’m booked on my speeding awareness course the end of March. I’ve been so nervous not knowing what to expect. I took my eye off the ball and got caught doing 35mph in a 30mph zone. So this has really eased my mind thank you again. I certainly think I will gain information from it... 👍🏻🙏🏻
Hi, I am doing a study in relation to people who have participated in a driver retraining program to gather information about the benefits and outcomes they experienced. Can you please answer the following few questions: 1. How long ago did you complete the course? 2. How would you describe your overall experience with the driver retraining program? 3. What specific skills or knowledge did you acquire or improve upon through the program? 4. In what ways do you feel the driver retraining program has positively impacted your driving abilities? 5. Have you noticed any changes in your driving behaviors or habits as a result of the program? If so, could you describe them? 6. Have you experienced any tangible benefits or improvements in your driving since completing the program (e.g., reduced accidents, fewer traffic violations)? 7. Would you recommend this driver retraining program to others? If so, what would be the main reasons for your recommendation?
I too rick was on that course. After 45 years driving I thought I was a good driver. - never had an motoring offense. I think it's a good course as it opened my eyes. Thanks for sharing
Hi, I am doing a study in relation to people who have participated in a driver retraining program to gather information about the benefits and outcomes they experienced. Can you please answer the following few questions: 1. How long ago did you complete the course? 2. How would you describe your overall experience with the driver retraining program? 3. What specific skills or knowledge did you acquire or improve upon through the program? 4. In what ways do you feel the driver retraining program has positively impacted your driving abilities? 5. Have you noticed any changes in your driving behaviors or habits as a result of the program? If so, could you describe them? 6. Have you experienced any tangible benefits or improvements in your driving since completing the program (e.g., reduced accidents, fewer traffic violations)? 7. Would you recommend this driver retraining program to others? If so, what would be the main reasons for your recommendation?
Thanks rick very informative video. Been cought myself so thought id look on here for other ppl views seen yours an feel abit more relaxed. Thanks again.
Hi, I am doing a study in relation to people who have participated in a driver retraining program to gather information about the benefits and outcomes they experienced. Can you please answer the following few questions: 1. How long ago did you complete the course? 2. How would you describe your overall experience with the driver retraining program? 3. What specific skills or knowledge did you acquire or improve upon through the program? 4. In what ways do you feel the driver retraining program has positively impacted your driving abilities? 5. Have you noticed any changes in your driving behaviors or habits as a result of the program? If so, could you describe them? 6. Have you experienced any tangible benefits or improvements in your driving since completing the program (e.g., reduced accidents, fewer traffic violations)? 7. Would you recommend this driver retraining program to others? If so, what would be the main reasons for your recommendation?
Hi, I am doing a study in relation to people who have participated in a driver retraining program to gather information about the benefits and outcomes they experienced. Can you please answer the following few questions: 1. How long ago did you complete the course? 2. How would you describe your overall experience with the driver retraining program? 3. What specific skills or knowledge did you acquire or improve upon through the program? 4. In what ways do you feel the driver retraining program has positively impacted your driving abilities? 5. Have you noticed any changes in your driving behaviors or habits as a result of the program? If so, could you describe them? 6. Have you experienced any tangible benefits or improvements in your driving since completing the program (e.g., reduced accidents, fewer traffic violations)? 7. Would you recommend this driver retraining program to others? If so, what would be the main reasons for your recommendation?
thanks for sharing your experience. I'm sure it was helpful for some viewers who were apprehensive about what the course would be like. it also was informative for those of us not scheduled to take the course. Have a great day
Fabian Dee yeah obviously but 20 people paying £100 each - it’s not costing £2k to pay 2 people an average wage for a mornings work, plus room hire - even taking into account profit
One way to make young people aware about braking: we all (as kids) must have used a patch of ice as a skating strip just wearing shoes, when you come to a halt you nearly always feel you are going to fall over, or you actually fall over, that's because there is more grip at slow speeds, if the grip was the same, why don't you fall over in the middle of the skid. One thing i was taught by my dad was to try driving from A to B (journey to work etc) without using brakes (obviously you use brakes once you stop or when you absolutely have to), but it makes you slow down, keep your distance, and be more in control btw, my driving lessons started in the lorry my dad used to drive, i went with him during school holidays, learned the dangers of cars and lorries, the idiotic car drivers etc, i was about 13/14 years old.
I think some people need to calm down and get some perspective, its obvious that Ricks speeding was a honest mistake that he got caught out for. its self evident that if you have been driving for regularly 27 years without any incidents you are a safe driver who respects and obeys the rules of the road and does not pose a risk to other road users. I and I'm sure many others are very appreciative that Rick took the time to share this with us, in his usual cheery, informative and fair way.
Stephen I used to drive 40 in a 30 and when I came to a driver doing 30 I used to get angry..That is so wrong it's a shame that you can't go on a speed awareness course on your own merit but if you are a good driver then you should update your driving skills as I have done and always stick to the speed limit its for safety and nothing else.
Hi, I am doing a study in relation to people who have participated in a driver retraining program to gather information about the benefits and outcomes they experienced. Can you please answer the following few questions: 1. How long ago did you complete the course? 2. How would you describe your overall experience with the driver retraining program? 3. What specific skills or knowledge did you acquire or improve upon through the program? 4. In what ways do you feel the driver retraining program has positively impacted your driving abilities? 5. Have you noticed any changes in your driving behaviors or habits as a result of the program? If so, could you describe them? 6. Have you experienced any tangible benefits or improvements in your driving since completing the program (e.g., reduced accidents, fewer traffic violations)? 7. Would you recommend this driver retraining program to others? If so, what would be the main reasons for your recommendation?
Hi, I am doing a study in relation to people who have participated in a driver retraining program to gather information about the benefits and outcomes they experienced. Can you please answer the following few questions: 1. How long ago did you complete the course? 2. How would you describe your overall experience with the driver retraining program? 3. What specific skills or knowledge did you acquire or improve upon through the program? 4. In what ways do you feel the driver retraining program has positively impacted your driving abilities? 5. Have you noticed any changes in your driving behaviors or habits as a result of the program? If so, could you describe them? 6. Have you experienced any tangible benefits or improvements in your driving since completing the program (e.g., reduced accidents, fewer traffic violations)? 7. Would you recommend this driver retraining program to others? If so, what would be the main reasons for your recommendation?
Thanks for that. I was doing 69mph in an overtaking lane on the A59. I overtook the car in front who was doing about 50mph & went into the left lane & slowed down to 60mph. The 'speed camera' was just in the position to catch people like me. In my eyes, this is entrapment! I used the power of my Audi S5 to overtake as quickly as possible & slow down to the correct speed. How is this fair? There were no pedestrians around, I had a clear road infront of me & if I didn't put my foot down I could have caused more mayhem. When will the government realise that cars have got a lot safer & it's just stupid drivers who do not use indicators (BMW's) & people who only look 2 foot beyond their bonnet are the real cause of the deaths & serious accidents on our roads. All the best & thanks again.
Agreed. I was so angry when I realised the circumstances of my own experience. A FOI request revealed that the speed limit there had recently been lowered and everything about where I got caught, absolutely stank of intentional entrapment. I genuinely felt like I had been legally mugged.
This is very helpful full I just got a letter from the police asking me to fill the driver's details..now atleast can get prepared with God help ..thank you for the advice
I did one 2 weeks ago and it was very very good, similar to you Rick I haven't had any offences for 36 years my last one was a endorsement in 1981, thesis one was for 2mph over but it is what it is and there's nothing you can do, the bit where you explain about the difference in 30 and 32 mph is called kinetic energy the best way to show this is to put a can of beans or something on your passenger seat, drive down the road at whatever the limit is and I must point out only do this bit if it's ABSOLUTELY safe to do so, then brake as hard as you can and take note to the point where the can ends up in the footwell, it is always at the point when you have completely stopped. But well said my friend the course is well worth doing and I would recommend it to anyone who gets the opportunity.
Hi, I am doing a study in relation to people who have participated in a driver retraining program to gather information about the benefits and outcomes they experienced. Can you please answer the following few questions: 1. How long ago did you complete the course? 2. How would you describe your overall experience with the driver retraining program? 3. What specific skills or knowledge did you acquire or improve upon through the program? 4. In what ways do you feel the driver retraining program has positively impacted your driving abilities? 5. Have you noticed any changes in your driving behaviors or habits as a result of the program? If so, could you describe them? 6. Have you experienced any tangible benefits or improvements in your driving since completing the program (e.g., reduced accidents, fewer traffic violations)? 7. Would you recommend this driver retraining program to others? If so, what would be the main reasons for your recommendation?
I'm due to have mine on the 6th October, I'm just wondering which course to take, home with my tablet, or actually attend a class? I was caught doing 27, in a 20. And although I have to do this course I have since stopped driving as I'm now 70 years old and I can't afford to go through this again as i am finding it very stressful.
Good stuff. I have to do a course in three days and the ironic thing is, is that my car has a small road speed indicator camera which will tell you the road speed for any road you're on. Had I noticed it I would have dropped my speed down from 57 to 50mph. But I'm glad you aren't made to 'stand up in class' at least.
Hi, I am doing a study in relation to people who have participated in a driver retraining program to gather information about the benefits and outcomes they experienced. Can you please answer the following few questions: 1. How long ago did you complete the course? 2. How would you describe your overall experience with the driver retraining program? 3. What specific skills or knowledge did you acquire or improve upon through the program? 4. In what ways do you feel the driver retraining program has positively impacted your driving abilities? 5. Have you noticed any changes in your driving behaviors or habits as a result of the program? If so, could you describe them? 6. Have you experienced any tangible benefits or improvements in your driving since completing the program (e.g., reduced accidents, fewer traffic violations)? 7. Would you recommend this driver retraining program to others? If so, what would be the main reasons for your recommendation?
Yarcofin it's funny, I thought similarly, but after doing the course I walked out thinking "Ah! thats why they named it like that" To most of us, driving becomes an automatic thing that we don't really think that about much. The course is more about making you aware of the need to monitor your speed more closely than most of us do. :o)
Thanks for sharing the information. More at ease now. My course is in a few days. About a 20 minute drive. I'm really just thinking too much, especially about the 4 hours. I mean 4 hours sitting with strangers in a room?! lol. Offtopic: You have great audio in your videos. What mic do you use?
Good luck with the course, it won't be anywhere near as bad as you might imagine it to be :o) The mic is just a generic ear-hook mic I found on eBay for a tenner or so :)
This is helpful. I'm livid, I got 2 speeding tickets in the space of one hour. My first in 30 years of driving. My kitten did a Houdini from her carrier and I nearly fking crashed my car 😂 As soon as I got the tickets I knew EXACTLY what is was for. I list looked at my cat and said thanks!
Hi Rick. Interesting video. Provoked a mixed bag of reactions. I got caught last year. 36 in a 30 in an unfamiliar location. Turns out a month later they made it a 40. I feel cheated by it all but I'm of the thought if you do something wrong you take the consequences. I too found the course of use. It refreshes some points that are easily forgotten. I found it interesting regarding the physics theory you were talking about. What I genuinely find shocking is how obtuse and arrogant people are to, not just speed but, driving attitude in general. The day these people realise is the day they seriously injure or kill someone, or when they receive a phone call at work or police officers turn up at their door telling them devastating news of a loved one. It's sad but it's the reality of it. I too find it frustrating but the law is law and it's there to protect people. If your unlucky enough to be caught speeding take the punishment like a man (or woman).
Hi, I am doing a study in relation to people who have participated in a driver retraining program to gather information about the benefits and outcomes they experienced. Can you please answer the following few questions: 1. How long ago did you complete the course? 2. How would you describe your overall experience with the driver retraining program? 3. What specific skills or knowledge did you acquire or improve upon through the program? 4. In what ways do you feel the driver retraining program has positively impacted your driving abilities? 5. Have you noticed any changes in your driving behaviors or habits as a result of the program? If so, could you describe them? 6. Have you experienced any tangible benefits or improvements in your driving since completing the program (e.g., reduced accidents, fewer traffic violations)? 7. Would you recommend this driver retraining program to others? If so, what would be the main reasons for your recommendation?
Hi, I am doing a study in relation to people who have participated in a driver retraining program to gather information about the benefits and outcomes they experienced. Can you please answer the following few questions: 1. How long ago did you complete the course? 2. How would you describe your overall experience with the driver retraining program? 3. What specific skills or knowledge did you acquire or improve upon through the program? 4. In what ways do you feel the driver retraining program has positively impacted your driving abilities? 5. Have you noticed any changes in your driving behaviors or habits as a result of the program? If so, could you describe them? 6. Have you experienced any tangible benefits or improvements in your driving since completing the program (e.g., reduced accidents, fewer traffic violations)? 7. Would you recommend this driver retraining program to others? If so, what would be the main reasons for your recommendation?
Hi my brother got caught in north wales a few years back and he did the course. I'd be curious to see the street view where you got caught, because I don't quite understand the situation where you were caught in, Perhaps you could do a vid of it? I alway keep within the limits but there can be situations where your not quite sure of the limits if your not use to the areas. Anyway good vid thanks.
I did the course as well. I came out feeling better for doing it. I am more mindful of the speed I drive at. Also... Better this than points on your licence.
Hi, I am doing a study in relation to people who have participated in a driver retraining program to gather information about the benefits and outcomes they experienced. Can you please answer the following few questions: 1. How long ago did you complete the course? 2. How would you describe your overall experience with the driver retraining program? 3. What specific skills or knowledge did you acquire or improve upon through the program? 4. In what ways do you feel the driver retraining program has positively impacted your driving abilities? 5. Have you noticed any changes in your driving behaviors or habits as a result of the program? If so, could you describe them? 6. Have you experienced any tangible benefits or improvements in your driving since completing the program (e.g., reduced accidents, fewer traffic violations)? 7. Would you recommend this driver retraining program to others? If so, what would be the main reasons for your recommendation?
I did a stint in taxi driving examination for Leeds council and the main place that people failed was at unmarked crossings, we seem to think that if there are no marking at a junction then it is our right of way. The trouble comes when someone comes along the other way and assumes that they have right of way and meet in the middle, it is too late then to reaches the crossing. I unfortunately lost my dad to one of these crossings and campaigned to have unmarked crossing done away with but they are still with us. I have always been a strong believer in having to take a re-test every 15 years as most drivers that I see make silly mistakes because it is so long since they had to drive safely. I agree with you though, that speed cameras are there to create money for government instead of making the roads safer.
The rules in the UK are very like the ones in the US. We have the same option of taking the course but in my State we take the course online. I had to take it a couple years ago for speeding and it was very educational.
Hi, I am doing a study in relation to people who have participated in a driver retraining program to gather information about the benefits and outcomes they experienced. Can you please answer the following few questions: 1. How long ago did you complete the course? 2. How would you describe your overall experience with the driver retraining program? 3. What specific skills or knowledge did you acquire or improve upon through the program? 4. In what ways do you feel the driver retraining program has positively impacted your driving abilities? 5. Have you noticed any changes in your driving behaviors or habits as a result of the program? If so, could you describe them? 6. Have you experienced any tangible benefits or improvements in your driving since completing the program (e.g., reduced accidents, fewer traffic violations)? 7. Would you recommend this driver retraining program to others? If so, what would be the main reasons for your recommendation?
I am normally berated by my husband for driving UNDER the speed limit except on this one occasion I was within spitting distance of the 40 sign ( from a 30) and I got caught by a mobile van in a dip in the road doing 34 in a 30. Bloody typical I am in my 60s with only one transgression in the past, 30 plus years ago, again my husband will never let me forget! He says he does over the speed limit every time he is out on the motorbike but ‘is more aware of his surroundings’ than me
I'm in the U.S. and haven't had an international drivers licenses in over 30 years. So if you get caught speeding, do you not get a ticket and have to pay a fine, or is it just points on your drivers licenses which cause your insurance rate to go up, or can you just opt for the course and just pay the course fee without a ticket fine? Just wondering how it works where you live. Also, it was in Wales that you got the ticket, was the course in England or did you have to stay around to take the course. Questions, questions, and more question. LOL. Glad that is over for you and that you have a good additude about it all. God Bless and take care.
Teresa H The option was for 3 points and a £100 fine, or take the course at a cost of £95. The offence was in Wales, but as it's a national scheme, you can take the course anywhere in the country you choose :o)
Well said. Just been on my third course. If your offered it get on it. We all need to to stick to the limits. Speed kills, its a no brainer. Good video
Hi, I am doing a study in relation to people who have participated in a driver retraining program to gather information about the benefits and outcomes they experienced. Can you please answer the following few questions: 1. How long ago did you complete the course? 2. How would you describe your overall experience with the driver retraining program? 3. What specific skills or knowledge did you acquire or improve upon through the program? 4. In what ways do you feel the driver retraining program has positively impacted your driving abilities? 5. Have you noticed any changes in your driving behaviors or habits as a result of the program? If so, could you describe them? 6. Have you experienced any tangible benefits or improvements in your driving since completing the program (e.g., reduced accidents, fewer traffic violations)? 7. Would you recommend this driver retraining program to others? If so, what would be the main reasons for your recommendation?
You would think that they could use the money they get from the tickets to PUT UP SIGNS. There's a few places in the states where the speed limit is implied and not posted. The sign that dictates the speed limit change is the sign that says now entering XYZ county. Because the implied speed limit for unmarked roads is a county ordinance.
Great video mate I have been drinking for 30 years I am in the same position as you I was coming off a 40 mile zone so the 40 miles and the 30 miles literally merged into one so I get caught doing 33 in a 30 miles zone from now and after in a 30 I am doing 25 miles
I've got no problems with speed cameras on known accident blackspots and in built up areas etc, but when they put cameras at the bottom of long steep hills - knowing that most cars today don't have a great deal of engine braking so even if you're driving sensibly when starting the descent (maybe in lower gear if really steep) you've still got to go hard on the brakes to avoid exceeding the 30 because money grabbing councils don't put in a descending speed limit zone because they know most drivers will be exceeding the 30mph and thus adding to the revenue earned from the camera. I've seen more rear end shunts caused by panic braking approaching cameras than any accidents as drivers enter a 30 and are naturally scrubbing off speed. Councils really need to rethink their warning signs and maybe increase the length of the descending speed limit zones so drivers are in with a chance to get under 30mph before the speed limit. Several major roads in Dorset and Devon where drivers are forced to brake extremely hard at the bottom of long steep hill because of a sodding camera and no countdown.
Now that you've done the course and not got any points on your license from being caught, do you still have to declare that you had a conviction when filling out forms such as car insurance?
This doesn't count as a "conviction" as doing the course nullifies it. You only have to declare it if directly asked by an insurance firm, but there is a widely adopted "don't ask, don't tell" policy that the insurers use, and they generally do not ask about speed awareness courses.
This actually sounds quite interesting. I think I may have been clocked by a mobile camera van [I hit the brakes as soon as I saw it, but am under the impression that if you can see it, it's too late] and was thinking I would have to waste 4 hours of my life, however maybe that won't be the case.
20 years driving and got one yesterday. Did 37 mph on 30 mph road. I thought the road was 40mph but it was 30 mph¹. Surrey police. It's a dual carriage way and completely empty. Victoria Road, Woking, Surrey.
My flatmate got a bad letter throught the post today. He got done on a "cashcow" road - it should honestly be 40, due to great visibility and wideness and condition of the road (elsewhere in the country, this is a 40 all day long); but it's 30 .. and he did 42, JUST on the threshold. He got caught by a mobile camera. He was prepared to pay the £100 fine and take the 3 points - until I pointed out my other friend's experience, and that he could take the speed awareness course - which is even £10 cheaper than the fine, and you go away as if it never happened (cough! "Insurance premium"), but better educated! This video will be good reassurance for him - can you tell me how the process works? Do you get "summoned" to a specific date and time for the presentation? Or can you chose a presentation to attend within the 4 months? It's Cambridge - a speed trap nightmare zone which is surely well attended by the AA speed-awareness circuit. There's probably a presentation once every 4 hours, 24/7 here!
You can book it online at a time and place convenient to you - I think the booking has to take place within a certain time frame (which I think is measured in months). Courses are not available in all counties, so you may have to travel a bit to reach a course (mine was 20+ miles away). I went with the AA course.
The physics lesson about just creeping over the limit resulting in a much higher speed at impact is only true if someone stepped out infront of you at precisely the right distance away that you could only just stop in time at 30mph. I agree with the numbers 11mph and 18mph if you started at 32 and 35 respectively. If however someone stepped out into the road such that you could only just stop in time at 25mph, then the differential in speed at impact if you started at 30 or 32 is only 3mph. It's actually not exponential.
+RichardB1983 Completely agree, if she was one foot close to Tiff needells car in the 1st test at 30mph she'd still get hit with 11mph of force. If Tiff didn't see her because he was trying to read road signs then she would be hit with 30mph of force, even though he's obeying the limit (though not driving with due care).
Got mine in one hour. Got caught doing 34 miles per hour in a 30 zone, going downhill 🤨 I'm usually quite vigilant not so much as a near miss in 12 years of driving but I guess as a university student I will feel a gain from attending
mick walker This exact question was raised on the course, I can't remember precisely what the reply was but I think they suggested that the laws of physics still applied - as in, the impact speeds still increase exponentailly as the speed increaces. The video they showed demonstrated it quite effectively.
rickvanman Well i would bet a brand new BMW would have a shorter stopping distance from 60 to 0 than a morris minor. So less chance of impact over the same distance, there is no such thing as a standard stopping distance.
I think the point was that it doesn't matter, the physics curve applies to all cars. The faster the speed, the higher the impact speed. People still die in, and get hit by modern high spec cars as well as old cars.
this is what ive always thought, faster cars are safer, because a ferrari is used to stopping quickly at 150mph+ so if you're only doing 30/40mph surely, you'd stop a LOT quicker than in a car that's created to stop at 80mph
I've recently done a similar course. There were 3 groups of 20 so they were making about £1800 a time. That was just the morning. I'm assuming that there was another similar amount for the afternoon courses too. Is it just a money making scheme? Hell yeah! I was caught doing a mere 36mph in a 30 zone and felt pretty hard done by as there were people who were on the edge of getting a ban in the same class.
Black Van Man No doubt in my mind whatsoever that this particular trap was all about making money. It made me so angry when I got it, and it ruined a good holiday.
Kings Hedges Road in Cambridge ... a 40mph road if ever you saw one. But my flatmate got done doing 42 - and it was 30. He's lucky - he "just" qualifies for the course rather than the points.
thank you for telling me, but as you are talking, i manage to see, you in saftey awareness course, that you are explaing, please, tell me, how to get the camera, that i can speak to officers,
i make sure i never speed, im constantly looking at the speedometer and road signs, i have had a few bumps and scrapes cos i had my eye on the speedometer instead of the road, but at least i don't break the speed limit and get points!
You don't to constantly look at the speedometer. Did you know that if you don't move your foot on one of those pedal things, I think it's called an accelerator, then your speed doesn't really change? Unless you go up or down hill, but that's probably more than you can cope with.
Meanwhile in Kent *60000* drivers have been done to the tune of *£6 MILLION* when authorities, overnight & with no warning brought a 70 mph road down to *40* with miniscule 10" limit signs.... *WAKE UP PEOPLE!* 😠
There is no defence of entrapment in English law but it is considered to be an abuse of the process of the court for state agents to lure a person into committing illegal acts and then seek to prosecute him for doing so.
Hi rick, i have the old pink licence no passport etc , all i have for photo id is a city and guilds credit card size thing with my name and picture on it, do you thing this is acceptable, thanks
If the speed limit goes from National Speed limit to 40mph on a road there will be 40mph signs displayed, two of them one either side of the road. If the speed then reduces to 30mph on that road there should be 30mph signs displayed one of them either side of the road. If not the 30mph limit is not enforceable the fact that street lights are present does not constitute proper posting of a limit. If it is dark extra rules apply to help your case.Police often try to enforce a limit which is easily challenged and if you do and are correct they will send you a notice saying basically that you have committed the offence but on this occasion they have decide not to prosecute. The reason for this is that if you can prove signage was not consistent with the legal requirement and this is proven in court all other drivers who went to court and were convicted can seek a refund on their costs which include; legal representation, fines, increased insurance payments over the years you have been affected etc.
Speeding through our village is a huge issue. We have tiny little roads not big enough for 2 cars to park and lined by cottages on both sides with not much of a path (and in places no path at all. It is a classic 17th century road being used by 21st century traffic. Cars come barrelling down at 40 and above when the speed limit is 20. Sooner or later something will happen. Maybe a car will get scuffed, maybe a pet will be killed, or just maybe a child will be killed. I am all in favour of any traffic calming measure and so these courses sound a great idea. I am not sure I would have much sympathy with someone who boasted that this was their 3rd course. If thats the case I wouldn't want them driving through here, and so points on the license and disqualification from driving is a better option. Just my opinion of course but hopefully you can see where I am coming from. Great video Rick, all the best.
Great talk. I'm going on a virtual zoom awareness course next week after being caught on a smart motorway averaging 73 in a 60. As I'm retired I hardly ever go on a motorway these days, and I was just monging along the motorway blissfully ignoring the big red 60 signs lol. Like you, I will find it really interesting, especially as I am going to do my advanced motorcycle course in the Summer, so it will feed into that.
Great talk? Just watched the first two minutes and it was 'a sneaky one' North Wales police 'are notoriously bad for speed traps' and catching speeders is just a revenue generator. Really sounds like this twat has taken it to heart, learned from his mistakes and benefited from the course he was allowed to take instead of just being given a conviction. The police do not have to give the course option which actually does away with the fine imposed, so a bit stupid if they're just out to make money. Also, speeding fine money goes to the Government Consolidated fund like all fines and is then part of general government expenditure, not to the police force so there's zero incentive for the police as they don't get the revenue. So 'I think it's one of their biggest revenue generators' is utter crap from the brave boy. Doesn't seem he takes it seriously or has learned anything.
Hi, I am doing a study in relation to people who have participated in a driver retraining program to gather information about the benefits and outcomes they experienced. Can you please answer the following few questions: 1. How long ago did you complete the course? 2. How would you describe your overall experience with the driver retraining program? 3. What specific skills or knowledge did you acquire or improve upon through the program? 4. In what ways do you feel the driver retraining program has positively impacted your driving abilities? 5. Have you noticed any changes in your driving behaviors or habits as a result of the program? If so, could you describe them? 6. Have you experienced any tangible benefits or improvements in your driving since completing the program (e.g., reduced accidents, fewer traffic violations)? 7. Would you recommend this driver retraining program to others? If so, what would be the main reasons for your recommendation?
I dont think you need to delare a speed awareness course to most insurance companies unless they directly ask you when you take out a new policy or renew, but you do have to tell them if you are actually fined for speeding and have points put on your license.
Just got caught on the penines, 50mph most of that stretch of road you cannot even get to 50mph, where they had the camera, on the down hill approaching the 60 mph limit, the camera was about 150 yds before it changed to 60 mph, yes i was guilty but that is just bloody sneaky, modern cars with little or no engine braking and the speed picks up enough to get caught but not enough to really notice until to late, and they know that.
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Sorry Rick, It's all rubbish in my opinion, they've just tried to justify a course to produce revenue. Us humans are suckers for listening to government generated excuses to justify these type of revenue streams but it doesn't change the fact that we are all being fleeced. Sure the facts and figures might sound interesting but they are all "what if's" Those figures don't take into consideration reaction times of the individuals so are meaningless. You have been driving for 27 years and never been done for speeding but you became the victim of a stealth money generating system and had to pay in the illusion that you are breaking the law. We all do every day to some extent but their greedy fingers now want to extract even more money from us and this attitude needs to be reversed because good honest people are getting sick of it. No offence just my opinion. Cheers Martin
I agree and I disagree, here's why. Yes your totally right when it comes to motorways or big open roads, however a fine or points or speed awareness course are justified if you get caught speeding in a 30 where there may be children like outside a school or something. I'm not saying I haven't ever done it myself but if you get caught doing it, it'd be fair enough.
Great upload, the fine is one thing it's the points on your license these revenue collectors should stop because its a win win for the insurance companies yes we should check or speed but now we're watching our dash clocks watching out for speed cameras and that in itself causes accidents I bet the government think tank bodies didn't mention that!
If you can't occasionally check your "dash clocks" and still concentrate on driving, you're a danger to all other road users and shouldn't be allowed on the road. How the fuck did you pass our test?
As a driver of a 450 hp 2015 Mustang, I am keenly aware of my speed. Its usually too fast. We have cameras here too, but they are not connected to the police. We pay a $50.00 fine and that goes to Parks, roads etc. Re speed traps, Welcome to America. We created them here just to send to you in England!
Exactly a week after passing my test as a 17 year old boy i was caught speeding! The most boring 4 hours of my life! I was by far the youngest person there and the next youngest was about 25! Wouldn't mind but i was only a few miles over the speed limit in a 30!
i just had to sit one of these, my licience had more categories than both course runners and one of the class tables combined, i drive a hgv and have driven in afghan/iraq and several other countries also and i only took it to avoid the points which is great but i still have to say this all just bullshit money grabbing nonsense. They only ever catch slight speeders who are barely over and never make any impact on the really dangerous drivers at locations where it is needed instead they hide in well picked spots with several sly factors more likely to tip ppl over slightly
Why would such an experienced driver not be able to obey mandatory traffic signage? You appear to have forgotten your legal obligations in favour of ego soothing.
It's funny how with all your jaw-dropping, impressive driving experience, which clearly makes you a much better driver than those taking the course, and you still break the law. And get caught doing so! :)
I’m doing the course to avoid points...... but then I drive over the speed limit pretty much everywhere because when you are as experienced of a driver as I am you come to realise that it’s not speed that is the issue, it’s driver error. I too have a lot of licence catagories, in fact I have them all.......all this course will do is make me more aware not to get caught again......
Hi Rick, recently subscribed and enjoy your attitude and video's. You say the course was "written by Government people"...I would hazard a guess that it was heavily influenced by the Government 'nudge' unit. check it out...mass reframing on an industrial scale, which they are now exporting around the world.
And of course you have to remember the old adage - what's the diff between a porcupine and a BMW? Answer - the porcupine has the pricks on the outside! Boom Boom!
I have only been caught speeding once in my life and it was because i was in a 30 leaving a roundabout following the flow of traffic out of the 30 into a national speed limit and on the boundary was the van , BUT i hold my hands up it was my own fault i should be responsible for my own car and not be a sheep the only awareness course i needed was that lesson never mind the other cars I'm in charge of this one , have a lovely day . oh and one more thing isn't it funny that when a person gets caught speeding its never their fault , mm really ?
They pay £50 for hire a room £50 for an instructor and collect two grand off the punters. Yeah, "safety" innit?
*EXACTLY!*
@@pup1008 No, the course fee is divided amongst different organisations.
Thank you so much... I’ve been driving 39 years with a clean licence and I’m booked on my speeding awareness course the end of March. I’ve been so nervous not knowing what to expect. I took my eye off the ball and got caught doing 35mph in a 30mph zone. So this has really eased my mind thank you again. I certainly think I will gain information from it... 👍🏻🙏🏻
Did you get a ticket or points? Cuz I have the same issue
Same man, looked up 25 in 20
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I too rick was on that course. After 45 years driving I thought I was a good driver. - never had an motoring offense. I think it's a good course as it opened my eyes. Thanks for sharing
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As usual your courage astounds me! I would be mortified so thankyou for video x
Thanks rick very informative video.
Been cought myself so thought id look on here for other ppl views seen yours an feel abit more relaxed.
Thanks again.
Great advise Rick. I hope with you doing this video more people will do the course and make them and others a little more safe on our roads.
As I am about to attend " the course " TOMORROW, I was very impressed with this informative video - thank you and we'll done. GSW
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best speed awareness course video on here thanks Rick got mine tommorow morning
Got mine in about a hour, how is there nothing online about them, no reviews or feedback etc. This is the only video I found
thank you extremely helpful, and reassuring. far less worried about my course now
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thanks for sharing your experience. I'm sure it was helpful for some viewers who were apprehensive about what the course would be like. it also was informative for those of us not scheduled to take the course. Have a great day
Nice Video Thanks for sharing your experience with all of us great thaks
20 people @ £95 a pop, £1900 for 4 hours. I'm in the wrong Job lol
Happy Gardener except all that money is going to the treasury and they’ll be paying the instructors fuck all.
@@rkent06 All the money goes to The Treasury?
@@rkent06 The training company takes a slice surely
Fabian Dee yeah obviously but 20 people paying £100 each - it’s not costing £2k to pay 2 people an average wage for a mornings work, plus room hire - even taking into account profit
hilarious!!
Very reassuring & informative video, thanks Rick
Thanks! Clear and concise and not too long! It'll be my second in 10 years.
One way to make young people aware about braking: we all (as kids) must have used a patch of ice as a skating strip just wearing shoes, when you come to a halt you nearly always feel you are going to fall over, or you actually fall over, that's because there is more grip at slow speeds, if the grip was the same, why don't you fall over in the middle of the skid.
One thing i was taught by my dad was to try driving from A to B (journey to work etc) without using brakes (obviously you use brakes once you stop or when you absolutely have to), but it makes you slow down, keep your distance, and be more in control
btw, my driving lessons started in the lorry my dad used to drive, i went with him during school holidays, learned the dangers of cars and lorries, the idiotic car drivers etc, i was about 13/14 years old.
I think some people need to calm down and get some perspective, its obvious that Ricks speeding was a honest mistake that he got caught out for. its self evident that if you have been driving for regularly 27 years without any incidents you are a safe driver who respects and obeys the rules of the road and does not pose a risk to other road users. I and I'm sure many others are very appreciative that Rick took the time to share this with us, in his usual cheery, informative and fair way.
Stephen I used to drive 40 in a 30 and when I came to a driver doing 30 I used to get angry..That is so wrong it's a shame that you can't go on a speed awareness course on your own merit but if you are a good driver then you should update your driving skills as I have done and always stick to the speed limit its for safety and nothing else.
I have mine in a couple of hours, and your video really helped.
Thanks
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Brilliant and to the point Cheers Pal. 👍. You should be on TV ✌️
Thanks for sharing that mate. Very interesting.
Going on a course tomorrow. Great video. Thx Jas 😎💪👍
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Very good video and a good watch.
Good video. I was worried as I have one soon. Reassuring. Thank you.
Thanks for that. I was doing 69mph in an overtaking lane on the A59. I overtook the car in front who was doing about 50mph & went into the left lane & slowed down to 60mph. The 'speed camera' was just in the position to catch people like me. In my eyes, this is entrapment! I used the power of my Audi S5 to overtake as quickly as possible & slow down to the correct speed. How is this fair? There were no pedestrians around, I had a clear road infront of me & if I didn't put my foot down I could have caused more mayhem. When will the government realise that cars have got a lot safer & it's just stupid drivers who do not use indicators (BMW's) & people who only look 2 foot beyond their bonnet are the real cause of the deaths & serious accidents on our roads. All the best & thanks again.
Agreed. I was so angry when I realised the circumstances of my own experience. A FOI request revealed that the speed limit there had recently been lowered and everything about where I got caught, absolutely stank of intentional entrapment. I genuinely felt like I had been legally mugged.
Cool video rick. always wondered what those courses were like. hoping I'll never need to attend one though. Lol.
Thanks for this information. I’m attending one next week. Now I know what to expect, I’m not as worried. Lol.
Get a camera detector, even if your a safe driver who normally does the speed limit...
This is very helpful full I just got a letter from the police asking me to fill the driver's details..now atleast can get prepared with God help ..thank you for the advice
Thank you very much for advise
I did one 2 weeks ago and it was very very good, similar to you Rick I haven't had any offences for 36 years my last one was a endorsement in 1981, thesis one was for 2mph over but it is what it is and there's nothing you can do, the bit where you explain about the difference in 30 and 32 mph is called kinetic energy the best way to show this is to put a can of beans or something on your passenger seat, drive down the road at whatever the limit is and I must point out only do this bit if it's ABSOLUTELY safe to do so, then brake as hard as you can and take note to the point where the can ends up in the footwell, it is always at the point when you have completely stopped. But well said my friend the course is well worth doing and I would recommend it to anyone who gets the opportunity.
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I'm due to have mine on the 6th October, I'm just wondering which course to take, home with my tablet, or actually attend a class? I was caught doing 27, in a 20. And although I have to do this course I have since stopped driving as I'm now 70 years old and I can't afford to go through this again as i am finding it very stressful.
Good stuff. I have to do a course in three days and the ironic thing is, is that my car has a small road speed indicator camera which will tell you the road speed for any road you're on. Had I noticed it I would have dropped my speed down from 57 to 50mph. But I'm glad you aren't made to 'stand up in class' at least.
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I love the way they name things in the UK.... "speed awareness" like you aren't aware what speed or speeding is.
Yarcofin it's funny, I thought similarly, but after doing the course I walked out thinking "Ah! thats why they named it like that"
To most of us, driving becomes an automatic thing that we don't really think that about much. The course is more about making you aware of the need to monitor your speed more closely than most of us do. :o)
And that camera that got you was put there for the exact reason of revenue generation.
thank you for sharing
Thanks for sharing the information. More at ease now. My course is in a few days. About a 20 minute drive. I'm really just thinking too much, especially about the 4 hours. I mean 4 hours sitting with strangers in a room?! lol.
Offtopic: You have great audio in your videos. What mic do you use?
Good luck with the course, it won't be anywhere near as bad as you might imagine it to be :o) The mic is just a generic ear-hook mic I found on eBay for a tenner or so :)
Thank you!! Also was the course exactly around 4 hours? I hear sometimes it can be 2-3 hrs
Earned a sub and like :)
Yes, I think we went a bit early too :o)
Hi You
This is helpful. I'm livid, I got 2 speeding tickets in the space of one hour. My first in 30 years of driving.
My kitten did a Houdini from her carrier and I nearly fking crashed my car 😂
As soon as I got the tickets I knew EXACTLY what is was for. I list looked at my cat and said thanks!
Hi Rick. Interesting video. Provoked a mixed bag of reactions. I got caught last year. 36 in a 30 in an unfamiliar location. Turns out a month later they made it a 40. I feel cheated by it all but I'm of the thought if you do something wrong you take the consequences. I too found the course of use. It refreshes some points that are easily forgotten. I found it interesting regarding the physics theory you were talking about. What I genuinely find shocking is how obtuse and arrogant people are to, not just speed but, driving attitude in general. The day these people realise is the day they seriously injure or kill someone, or when they receive a phone call at work or police officers turn up at their door telling them devastating news of a loved one. It's sad but it's the reality of it. I too find it frustrating but the law is law and it's there to protect people. If your unlucky enough to be caught speeding take the punishment like a man (or woman).
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Nice explanations, thank you sir 😊
I need to book my course shortly as I have only 4 months from the date of my offence:(. Thanks for sharing your opinion and you got a new subscriber.
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Hi my brother got caught in north wales a few years back and he did the course. I'd be curious to see the street view where you got caught, because I don't quite understand the situation where you were caught in, Perhaps you could do a vid of it? I alway keep within the limits but there can be situations where your not quite sure of the limits if your not use to the areas. Anyway good vid thanks.
I did the course as well. I came out feeling better for doing it. I am more mindful of the speed I drive at. Also... Better this than points on your licence.
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I did a stint in taxi driving examination for Leeds council and the main place that people failed was at unmarked crossings, we seem to think that if there are no marking at a junction then it is our right of way. The trouble comes when someone comes along the other way and assumes that they have right of way and meet in the middle, it is too late then to reaches the crossing. I unfortunately lost my dad to one of these crossings and campaigned to have unmarked crossing done away with but they are still with us. I have always been a strong believer in having to take a re-test every 15 years as most drivers that I see make silly mistakes because it is so long since they had to drive safely. I agree with you though, that speed cameras are there to create money for government instead of making the roads safer.
The rules in the UK are very like the ones in the US. We have the same option of taking the course but in my State we take the course online. I had to take it a couple years ago for speeding and it was very educational.
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I am normally berated by my husband for driving UNDER the speed limit except on this one occasion I was within spitting distance of the 40 sign ( from a 30) and I got caught by a mobile van in a dip in the road doing 34 in a 30. Bloody typical I am in my 60s with only one transgression in the past, 30 plus years ago, again my husband will never let me forget! He says he does over the speed limit every time he is out on the motorbike but ‘is more aware of his surroundings’ than me
They set the trap up where they did for a reason, it was strategically placed to catch the maximum amount of people!
I'm in the U.S. and haven't had an international drivers licenses in over 30 years. So if you get caught speeding, do you not get a ticket and have to pay a fine, or is it just points on your drivers licenses which cause your insurance rate to go up, or can you just opt for the course and just pay the course fee without a ticket fine? Just wondering how it works where you live. Also, it was in Wales that you got the ticket, was the course in England or did you have to stay around to take the course. Questions, questions, and more question. LOL. Glad that is over for you and that you have a good additude about it all. God Bless and take care.
Teresa H The option was for 3 points and a £100 fine, or take the course at a cost of £95. The offence was in Wales, but as it's a national scheme, you can take the course anywhere in the country you choose :o)
Well said.
Just been on my third course.
If your offered it get on it.
We all need to to stick to the limits.
Speed kills, its a no brainer.
Good video
Except when it's the empty dual carrigeway
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Great video.
Thank you so much so worried about everything
If they were that great! Everyone would be sent on one,FREE OF CHARGE!!!
Brilliant point but they'd find a way of charging you!
My course was on a Saturday morning at 8:00, tell you what folks I loved it to be honest...it really has made me slow down.
Great video mate 👌🏾
You would think that they could use the money they get from the tickets to PUT UP SIGNS. There's a few places in the states where the speed limit is implied and not posted. The sign that dictates the speed limit change is the sign that says now entering XYZ county. Because the implied speed limit for unmarked roads is a county ordinance.
Absolutely, not least where they change the limit overnight like on part of the A406 Gunnersbury.
Great video mate I have been drinking for 30 years I am in the same position as you I was coming off a 40 mile zone so the 40 miles and the 30 miles literally merged into one so I get caught doing 33 in a 30 miles zone from now and after in a 30 I am doing 25 miles
Got bloody caught, thanks for the insights.
Thanks..... really useful.....
I've got no problems with speed cameras on known accident blackspots and in built up areas etc, but when they put cameras at the bottom of long steep hills - knowing that most cars today don't have a great deal of engine braking so even if you're driving sensibly when starting the descent (maybe in lower gear if really steep) you've still got to go hard on the brakes to avoid exceeding the 30 because money grabbing councils don't put in a descending speed limit zone because they know most drivers will be exceeding the 30mph and thus adding to the revenue earned from the camera. I've seen more rear end shunts caused by panic braking approaching cameras than any accidents as drivers enter a 30 and are naturally scrubbing off speed. Councils really need to rethink their warning signs and maybe increase the length of the descending speed limit zones so drivers are in with a chance to get under 30mph before the speed limit. Several major roads in Dorset and Devon where drivers are forced to brake extremely hard at the bottom of long steep hill because of a sodding camera and no countdown.
Now that you've done the course and not got any points on your license from being caught, do you still have to declare that you had a conviction when filling out forms such as car insurance?
This doesn't count as a "conviction" as doing the course nullifies it. You only have to declare it if directly asked by an insurance firm, but there is a widely adopted "don't ask, don't tell" policy that the insurers use, and they generally do not ask about speed awareness courses.
Thank you 😊
This actually sounds quite interesting. I think I may have been clocked by a mobile camera van [I hit the brakes as soon as I saw it, but am under the impression that if you can see it, it's too late] and was thinking I would have to waste 4 hours of my life, however maybe that won't be the case.
I’m in the same boat. May have been done but will just have to wait and see
Thank you, very helpful :)
20 years driving and got one yesterday. Did 37 mph on 30 mph road. I thought the road was 40mph but it was 30 mph¹. Surrey police. It's a dual carriage way and completely empty. Victoria Road, Woking, Surrey.
My flatmate got a bad letter throught the post today.
He got done on a "cashcow" road - it should honestly be 40, due to great visibility and wideness and condition of the road (elsewhere in the country, this is a 40 all day long); but it's 30 .. and he did 42, JUST on the threshold. He got caught by a mobile camera.
He was prepared to pay the £100 fine and take the 3 points - until I pointed out my other friend's experience, and that he could take the speed awareness course - which is even £10 cheaper than the fine, and you go away as if it never happened (cough! "Insurance premium"), but better educated!
This video will be good reassurance for him - can you tell me how the process works?
Do you get "summoned" to a specific date and time for the presentation?
Or can you chose a presentation to attend within the 4 months?
It's Cambridge - a speed trap nightmare zone which is surely well attended by the AA speed-awareness circuit. There's probably a presentation once every 4 hours, 24/7 here!
You can book it online at a time and place convenient to you - I think the booking has to take place within a certain time frame (which I think is measured in months). Courses are not available in all counties, so you may have to travel a bit to reach a course (mine was 20+ miles away). I went with the AA course.
It is bad here Rick, very strick and very crafty.
I’m a new driver I got catch doing 38 in a 30zone what will happen to me ?
mine, is desk top, apple mac, the camera that is build on the tv, i can see, my self, but am i going to see, the officer on that day? please,
it has a phone, and camera, but at the top, has, All and missed call?
The physics lesson about just creeping over the limit resulting in a much higher speed at impact is only true if someone stepped out infront of you at precisely the right distance away that you could only just stop in time at 30mph. I agree with the numbers 11mph and 18mph if you started at 32 and 35 respectively. If however someone stepped out into the road such that you could only just stop in time at 25mph, then the differential in speed at impact if you started at 30 or 32 is only 3mph. It's actually not exponential.
+RichardB1983 Completely agree, if she was one foot close to Tiff needells car in the 1st test at 30mph she'd still get hit with 11mph of force. If Tiff didn't see her because he was trying to read road signs then she would be hit with 30mph of force, even though he's obeying the limit (though not driving with due care).
Got mine in one hour. Got caught doing 34 miles per hour in a 30 zone, going downhill 🤨 I'm usually quite vigilant not so much as a near miss in 12 years of driving but I guess as a university student I will feel a gain from attending
3:12 _I've been driving for 29 years_
Well, that's your problem right there; it's recommended that you take a break every two hours.
Surely braking distance is down to the vehicle and drivers reactions, definitely not a standard distance as we are all led to believe.
mick walker This exact question was raised on the course, I can't remember precisely what the reply was but I think they suggested that the laws of physics still applied - as in, the impact speeds still increase exponentailly as the speed increaces. The video they showed demonstrated it quite effectively.
rickvanman
Well i would bet a brand new BMW would have a shorter stopping distance from 60 to 0 than a morris minor. So less chance of impact over the same distance, there is no such thing as a standard stopping distance.
I think the point was that it doesn't matter, the physics curve applies to all cars. The faster the speed, the higher the impact speed. People still die in, and get hit by modern high spec cars as well as old cars.
+mick walker But then who in their right mind would be caught dead or alive in a BMW?
this is what ive always thought, faster cars are safer, because a ferrari is used to stopping quickly at 150mph+ so if you're only doing 30/40mph surely, you'd stop a LOT quicker than in a car that's created to stop at 80mph
I've recently done a similar course.
There were 3 groups of 20 so they were making about £1800 a time. That was just the morning. I'm assuming that there was another similar amount for the afternoon courses too.
Is it just a money making scheme?
Hell yeah!
I was caught doing a mere 36mph in a 30 zone and felt pretty hard done by as there were people who were on the edge of getting a ban in the same class.
Black Van Man No doubt in my mind whatsoever that this particular trap was all about making money. It made me so angry when I got it, and it ruined a good holiday.
They're sneaky buggers :-(
Kings Hedges Road in Cambridge ... a 40mph road if ever you saw one.
But my flatmate got done doing 42 - and it was 30.
He's lucky - he "just" qualifies for the course rather than the points.
Silver Van Man lkllpl
They weren't making £1800 a time.
thank you for telling me, but as you are talking, i manage to see, you in saftey awareness course, that you are explaing, please, tell me, how to get the camera, that i can speak to officers,
Rick, you should teach... I think you'd enjoy the rewards of seeing a person develop instead of a project. (social/schools/disabilities) choose one.
thanks mate
i make sure i never speed, im constantly looking at the speedometer and road signs, i have had a few bumps and scrapes cos i had my eye on the speedometer instead of the road, but at least i don't break the speed limit and get points!
I'd rather you break the speed limit a bit and get a feel for the speed rather than getting those bumps and scrapes.
You don't to constantly look at the speedometer. Did you know that if you don't move your foot on one of those pedal things, I think it's called an accelerator, then your speed doesn't really change? Unless you go up or down hill, but that's probably more than you can cope with.
Years later, insurance companies are starting to increasingly ask if you been on course
great idea they need that in australia.
Meanwhile in Kent *60000* drivers have been done to the tune of *£6 MILLION* when authorities, overnight & with no warning brought a 70 mph road down to *40* with miniscule 10" limit signs.... *WAKE UP PEOPLE!* 😠
There is no defence of entrapment in English law but it is considered to be an abuse of the process of the court for state agents to lure a person into committing illegal acts and then seek to prosecute him for doing so.
Hi rick, i have the old pink licence no passport etc , all i have for photo id is a city and guilds credit card size thing with my name and picture on it, do you thing this is acceptable, thanks
I only have the pink license too, it was fine. I'm not sure about the photo ID, you'll need to check what it says on the instructions.
rickvanman thanks ive only the pink licence.
I got caught not wearing a seat belt, wasn't particularly impressed tbh, so what if i'm not wearing one surely that should be my choice no?
If the speed limit goes from National Speed limit to 40mph on a road there will be 40mph signs displayed, two of them one either side of the road. If the speed then reduces to 30mph on that road there should be 30mph signs displayed one of them either side of the road. If not the 30mph limit is not enforceable the fact that street lights are present does not constitute proper posting of a limit. If it is dark extra rules apply to help your case.Police often try to enforce a limit which is easily challenged and if you do and are correct they will send you a notice saying basically that you have committed the offence but on this occasion they have decide not to prosecute. The reason for this is that if you can prove signage was not consistent with the legal requirement and this is proven in court all other drivers who went to court and were convicted can seek a refund on their costs which include; legal representation, fines, increased insurance payments over the years you have been affected etc.
What about refreshments ? do they provide lunch and tea and coffee?? A Buffet ?
This place had a small coffee shop/serving hatch, and a load of vending machines, but none of it was free.
A buffet ?? 😂😂 just take a sandwich and a bottle of water it's not a chinese restaurant lol
Speeding through our village is a huge issue. We have tiny little roads not big enough for 2 cars to park and lined by cottages on both sides with not much of a path (and in places no path at all. It is a classic 17th century road being used by 21st century traffic. Cars come barrelling down at 40 and above when the speed limit is 20. Sooner or later something will happen. Maybe a car will get scuffed, maybe a pet will be killed, or just maybe a child will be killed. I am all in favour of any traffic calming measure and so these courses sound a great idea. I am not sure I would have much sympathy with someone who boasted that this was their 3rd course. If thats the case I wouldn't want them driving through here, and so points on the license and disqualification from driving is a better option. Just my opinion of course but hopefully you can see where I am coming from. Great video Rick, all the best.
Great talk. I'm going on a virtual zoom awareness course next week after being caught on a smart motorway averaging 73 in a 60. As I'm retired I hardly ever go on a motorway these days, and I was just monging along the motorway blissfully ignoring the big red 60 signs lol. Like you, I will find it really interesting, especially as I am going to do my advanced motorcycle course in the Summer, so it will feed into that.
Great talk? Just watched the first two minutes and it was 'a sneaky one' North Wales police 'are notoriously bad for speed traps' and catching speeders is just a revenue generator.
Really sounds like this twat has taken it to heart, learned from his mistakes and benefited from the course he was allowed to take instead of just being given a conviction.
The police do not have to give the course option which actually does away with the fine imposed, so a bit stupid if they're just out to make money. Also, speeding fine money goes to the Government Consolidated fund like all fines and is then part of general government expenditure, not to the police force so there's zero incentive for the police as they don't get the revenue. So 'I think it's one of their biggest revenue generators' is utter crap from the brave boy. Doesn't seem he takes it seriously or has learned anything.
Hi, I am doing a study in relation to people who have participated in a driver retraining program to gather information about the benefits and outcomes they experienced. Can you please answer the following few questions:
1. How long ago did you complete the course?
2. How would you describe your overall experience with the driver retraining program?
3. What specific skills or knowledge did you acquire or improve upon through the program?
4. In what ways do you feel the driver retraining program has positively impacted your driving abilities?
5. Have you noticed any changes in your driving behaviors or habits as a result of the program? If so, could you describe them?
6. Have you experienced any tangible benefits or improvements in your driving since completing the program (e.g., reduced accidents, fewer traffic violations)?
7. Would you recommend this driver retraining program to others? If so, what would be the main reasons for your recommendation?
Do I need to tell my insurance company that I participated in a speed awareness course / do I need to tell them I got done for speeding?
I dont think you need to delare a speed awareness course to most insurance companies unless they directly ask you when you take out a new policy or renew, but you do have to tell them if you are actually fined for speeding and have points put on your license.
rickvanman So upon renewal, when they ask "Has anything changed with your policy?" So I just answer "No" if I only get an Awareness Course?
Eloquencee I would do it that way myself, because technically nothing has changed :-)
Just got caught on the penines, 50mph most of that stretch of road you cannot even get to 50mph, where they had the camera, on the down hill approaching the 60 mph limit, the camera was about 150 yds before it changed to 60 mph, yes i was guilty but that is just bloody sneaky, modern cars with little or no engine braking and the speed picks up enough to get caught but not enough to really notice until to late, and they know that.
Got mine this afternoon on zoom! They changed the roads from 30 to 20 without warning! So many people got caught!!
Hi, I am doing a study in relation to people who have participated in a driver retraining program to gather information about the benefits and outcomes they experienced. Can you please answer the following few questions:
1. How long ago did you complete the course?
2. How would you describe your overall experience with the driver retraining program?
3. What specific skills or knowledge did you acquire or improve upon through the program?
4. In what ways do you feel the driver retraining program has positively impacted your driving abilities?
5. Have you noticed any changes in your driving behaviors or habits as a result of the program? If so, could you describe them?
6. Have you experienced any tangible benefits or improvements in your driving since completing the program (e.g., reduced accidents, fewer traffic violations)?
7. Would you recommend this driver retraining program to others? If so, what would be the main reasons for your recommendation?
Rick you legend
Hi Rick,
When my Dad went on a speed awareness course he would always go 5 miles an hour under the speed limit!
Cheers Roger
OutAboutWilts They stressed throughout the course that the speed limit is the maximum speed allowed and not a target to aim for. :o)
+rickvanman Considering the number of country roads with incredibly tight bends at the national speed limit, I can only agree with that sentiment.
Sorry Rick, It's all rubbish in my opinion, they've just tried to justify a course to produce revenue. Us humans are suckers for listening to government generated excuses to justify these type of revenue streams but it doesn't change the fact that we are all being fleeced. Sure the facts and figures might sound interesting but they are all "what if's" Those figures don't take into consideration reaction times of the individuals so are meaningless.
You have been driving for 27 years and never been done for speeding but you became the victim of a stealth money generating system and had to pay in the illusion that you are breaking the law. We all do every day to some extent but their greedy fingers now want to extract even more money from us and this attitude needs to be reversed because good honest people are getting sick of it.
No offence just my opinion.
Cheers
Martin
Totally agree Martin. In reality it felt like I had been mugged and I was really angry about it for a long time.
rickvanman You've prompted me to do a video now Rick where I have a little rant about things lol. Just editing it now.
ATB
Martin
retrorestore I'll look out for it :o)
Paul David
Funny guy, Not..
I agree and I disagree, here's why. Yes your totally right when it comes to motorways or big open roads, however a fine or points or speed awareness course are justified if you get caught speeding in a 30 where there may be children like outside a school or something. I'm not saying I haven't ever done it myself but if you get caught doing it, it'd be fair enough.
Thanks
Great upload, the fine is one thing it's the points on your license these revenue collectors should stop because its a win win for the insurance companies yes we should check or speed but now we're watching our dash clocks watching out for speed cameras and that in itself causes accidents I bet the government think tank bodies didn't mention that!
If you can't occasionally check your "dash clocks" and still concentrate on driving, you're a danger to all other road users and shouldn't be allowed on the road. How the fuck did you pass our test?
But you can drive at 60 mph on a narrow winding country lane , madness and proves it's all about making money 🙄
As a driver of a 450 hp 2015 Mustang, I am keenly aware of my speed. Its usually too fast. We have cameras here too, but they are not connected to the police. We pay a $50.00 fine and that goes to Parks, roads etc. Re speed traps, Welcome to America. We created them here just to send to you in England!
MrMrwilson11 Thank you for the gift, not! LOL! PS love the new mustang that coming out here later in the new year, its gorgeous!
How long did the course larst
4 hours usually.
Exactly a week after passing my test as a 17 year old boy i was caught speeding! The most boring 4 hours of my life! I was by far the youngest person there and the next youngest was about 25! Wouldn't mind but i was only a few miles over the speed limit in a 30!
D Pictures That was unlucky :o( But on the brighter side, could you imagine your insurance premium at 17 with 3 points AGHHH! :o)
rickvanman Ooh i know that doesn't bare thinking about! Luckily now I'm 19 now it has made me very aware of my speed so that I'm not caught again.
Did they let u out of the course on time or did they let u out late?
i just had to sit one of these, my licience had more categories than both course runners and one of the class tables combined, i drive a hgv and have driven in afghan/iraq and several other countries also and i only took it to avoid the points which is great but i still have to say this all just bullshit money grabbing nonsense. They only ever catch slight speeders who are barely over and never make any impact on the really dangerous drivers at locations where it is needed instead they hide in well picked spots with several sly factors more likely to tip ppl over slightly
Why would such an experienced driver not be able to obey mandatory traffic signage? You appear to have forgotten your legal obligations in favour of ego soothing.
It's funny how with all your jaw-dropping, impressive driving experience, which clearly makes you a much better driver than those taking the course, and you still break the law. And get caught doing so! :)
I’m doing the course to avoid points......
but then I drive over the speed limit pretty much everywhere because when you are as experienced of a driver as I am you come to realise that it’s not speed that is the issue, it’s driver error.
I too have a lot of licence catagories, in fact I have them all.......all this course will do is make me more aware not to get caught again......
Hi Rick, recently subscribed and enjoy your attitude and video's. You say the course was "written by Government people"...I would hazard a guess that it was heavily influenced by the Government 'nudge' unit. check it out...mass reframing on an industrial scale, which they are now exporting around the world.
And of course you have to remember the old adage - what's the diff between a porcupine and a BMW? Answer - the porcupine has the pricks on the outside! Boom Boom!
Totally True Sir.....Excellent swipe at the Vermach. 😀
I have only been caught speeding once in my life and it was because i was in a 30 leaving a roundabout following the flow of traffic out of the 30 into a national speed limit and on the boundary was the van , BUT i hold my hands up it was my own fault i should be responsible for my own car and not be a sheep the only awareness course i needed was that lesson never mind the other cars I'm in charge of this one , have a lovely day . oh and one more thing isn't it funny that when a person gets caught speeding its never their fault , mm really ?