Vsett 10+ conversion to thumb throttle? Yes. Works on 8, 9 also
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- čas přidán 7. 01. 2022
- I searched everywhere to find a thumb throttle conversion to buy but no one sells them. I decided to put together one myself.
This modification should work on Vsett 8, 8+, 9 and 9+ also.
This video shows how I converted my Vsett 10+ to thumb throttle. I never really could get used to the finger pull throttle on these scooters. The video is a bit long as this is my first time trying and ran into some un-expected behavior where I had to devise a work around. Overall, I am very happy with the thumb throttle and will be keeping it this way. I may try testing a twist throttle in the future.
Warning:
This video demonstrate that converting to thumb throttle is possible. The modification requires some soldering skills and technical knowledge of the electronic components and the correct method for handing these electro static sensitive components. I am not endorsing or suggesting anyone try this out. This is for educational purpose and any disassembly may void your manufacturer's warranty.
Here is the list of parts I used.
Amazon:
ASIN : B09P873P3D E-Bike Thumb Throttle, WUXING 108X Right Hand
ASIN : B09NXNR4GR EZKT Ebike Cable Extension Julet Female
Hall Effect sensor 49E description:
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Edit: switched to the 130x throttle. Better ergo and more control since they're isn't a huge gap of empty throttle so no set screw needed. Thanks for doing this! Got my 10 yesterday and changed it to a thumb throttle the next day. Wired the exact same throttle directly without using the extra wire and filled the hole with glue. Works great! Couldnt have done it without your vid!
Hello. Can you text link to buy? I want to plug in my vsett 8+. Thankyou
need the link asell which 1 you bought
the problem is that these have a different start and end voltage than most throttles, on my VESC based scooters i dont have that deadzone with these throttles
I just finished my the same way as you did and I had an error 08
I had to swap the white and red cable after that everything works great!
Thanks for inspiration!
What model you have?
Fantastic video wow 😱 awesome but for the average person that is going to be very hard to do so what happens when you get the new controller
Does the hall effect sensor have to be the 49Exxx? Or does it not matter if it has a juliet connector that matches up correctly? I found a thumb throttle I'd like to use but it doesn't identify the sensor.
It is possible that it may work with other series but I don't know for sure. Just be careful because there is a risk of short-circuiting the controller even though the Juliet connector fits if the Voltage pins are not the same.
👍 Thank you!
Great news its possible! This stock Vset 10+ throttle is ridiculous bad!!!
Yeah, I didn't like finger trigger either. It was a pain for longer rides and obstructs the brake lever.
@@mypev-diy7269 I´ve used the Original one with the big Display. But fingergas is ridiculous. My easy Solution. Switch upsidedown an now i have a Thumbthrottle. Works very fine.
Hey man hows it going? I have an important question for you can if you could please help? How do i put this back together the original way? I cant get the pin in the hole while lining up the screw hole to screw it back together!! Any tips or pointers would be great!! Thanks in advance bro!!
Can "any" throttle with a male 3 pin be soldered to the display ?
I just tried to follow your instructions but after putting it back together and playing it in the throttle does not seem to respond . Do you have any other thoughts or suggestions on how to get mine working. My first thought is that there might be solder touching one of the other pins but I'm kind of new to soldering so I'm not very good at it. I have an ey3 display.
maybe your wire colors dont match the connections that need to be made in the ey3, it is critical to have the legs of the hall sensor connected in the same way as the sensor of the hall 3
if there were wires switched around theres a high probability the sensor is already dead so that would mean soldering a new hall sensor or a new throttle
BUT you can take the original sensor from the ey3 aswell, but the pins need to be hooked up correctly and the sensor in the right direction
Good job 👍
Not sure about that Huge side mirror though 😂
Yes, looks dorky but does help me see who is tail gating me without having to turn my head.
hello, I put the same throttle lever on the dualtro, when I make the last throttle, the electronic brake is activated, what do you think could be the cause of the problem?
Sorry but I do not own a dualtron and have not play with their display throttle. It is possible there are some incompatibilities with the soft configuration items.
Hy, i have a question, can you tell me how can i connect a loudspeaker to a hall sensor (from finger throttle) in order to be able to control volume. The loudspeaker have digital volume control and own rechargeable batteries. Thank you in advance for your answer
That is more complicated because the loud speaker most likely uses an optical dial or digital push button to adjust high or low. It's not going to be easy but is possible. I have never tried it.
@@mypev-diy7269 thank you for your answer. can you give me a hint? both high and low digital buttons have 2 wires and hall sensor have 3 wires.... how should i connect them with the signal wire from hall sensor?
Acceleration is still really smooth? As someone with a hand disability, this mod is amazing by allowing the use of so many different throttles.
Yes, acceleration feel is the same as the finger throttle. There is a setting in the "P" menu to smooth out the throttle also.
@@mypev-diy7269 Thanks! Did you try out that quick release? I like how there is little tension. And any way to have you do the modification if not local?
when u push the throttle zll the way down does it go full speed cause I saw in your demonstration it goes slow when pushed far down
Actually goes full speed at only half push. Full push stays at full speed, basically no change. Last 3/4 throttle does nothing more and does not reduce power to the motors.
Is this similar to EY3 display?
How do you put the trigger back?
Nice work, your display stopped working at the end of the video?
If you open up the replies to the upper comment you'll see he answered to that question.
@@kristjananneljas6289 sorry I did not understand what you meant in previous answers, can you please explain? You connected it wrong way?
@@janhetych8179 I mean i asked "MyPEV-DIY" did his display stop working in the end of video... and he replied: "Display works as usual. Its bright out and the display is horrible in sunlight or bright sky. Its always been that way and I have it set to max brightness" So the answer to your question is NO, Display is working as intended in the end of video, it's just not visible in the day light.
is it possible if the stock controller is having different hall effect sensor? will it work?
I don't know. That is why I made sure the external throttle mechanism uses the same series Hall Effect sensor.
Would it be possible to not remove the trigger throttle ? What would happen if i just drill a little hole for the thumb throttle cable and solder 3 wires to existing trigger throttle hall sensor pins? Would it be conflicting ? Or should i remove the trigger throttle hall effect sensor, solder wires in its place and keep the removed sensor + leave the trigger itself untouched. just in case i want to revert it back to default in future.
/Also wanted to ask do i need the female part of the cable or can i just cut the thumb throttle cable to reveal those 3 wires?
/Just noticed your display is not working at all in the end when riding on the road. Why is that? I wouldn't want my display not working after converting to thumb throttle.
Display works as usual. Its bright out and the display is horrible in sunlight or bright sky. Its always been that way and I have it set to max brightness
You can keep the trigger mechanism in place but the Hall Effect sensor inside the controller has to be remove. Having 2 Hall Effect sensor connected in parallel will cause the output signal to fighting each other, one may be signaling high and the other low and will most likely short out each other. So only 1 sensor can be connected at a time.
Don't need the Julet cable. You can solder the wires directly to the board BUT, you will need to verify which color wires goes to the Hall Effect Positive vs Output. It is most likely going to be different if you wire the thumb controller directly without the Julet connector. I included the pin out LINK of the 49E Hall Effect sensor in the description of the video. You need to ohm out the pins and verify or you can blow out the circuit in the display.
What about the Emove Cruiser it's exactly the same. So why can't we use that one the Vsett
well conversion is expected with the same sensor, but magnet travel time is terrible short as i see in this video, if it would be on whole travel length, then would be perfect
Yes. That is the problem so the throttle feels sensitive. If I can only figure out how to access the controller's programming, I may be able to change that but so far, I am not able to find any access to the micro coding. I did test the QS-S4 display throttle that is sold with the thumb throttle from factory and it does take up the entire magnetic range when converted to twist so I know the programming can be changed. Just need to be able to figure out how to access it.
@@mypev-diy7269 good luck!
Did you ever figure out a solution
I got the same thumbthrottle but the wiring legends are different. I guess ill follow my own color based on the wired connected to the sensor, facing the sensor mark, 1Black-2red.3white
Yeah, the thumb throttle "direct" wiring is different than wiring through the connector. If you can, please post a video of the wiring. It may help other people on clarify. Thanks.
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Where did the ring sit
Wow nice job! Would you be willing to make another while being paid for labor? 😉
I am exploring a few avenues to handle these requests. I am checking around the local shops to if they would be interested in partnering with me.
@@mypev-diy7269 I would luv to have one made for me as soon as U are able to !!!
I need advice if anyone has the same problem as me. I had it converted to Thumb Control, it's better, but it's not for me, it's such a choppy speed, if I try to keep it up, it turns off and on. It's not smooth, does anyone have this problem???? At the same time, the track is larger than the original, but the handling is jerky...😒
Hello. I want to do the opposite. Turn a display like this into a trothle. Do you think it's possible?
Not sure what you are asking?
It's good but you break the water resistant of vsett throttle and you make bigger hole to make water can come easily specially they are sensitive in the rain and cold wheater.
Just put it back together with silicone and fill the hole up with glue gun using black stick.
Who ever releases these plug and play especially for the vsett is gonna make some money, not sure why vsett used a finger trigger in the first place.
Agree! I can do the modification for anyone Near San Francisco.
@@mypev-diy7269 in uk unfortunately
@@mypev-diy7269 What if someone didnt live in Bay area but were to say send you the display and throttle? LOL
@@keithlowry4213 I have created a few extra throttle as part of my testing, If your interested, I may put this up for sale, as is.
@@mypev-diy7269 Talk to me LOL 🙂
If you order an extra controller and build me one I would gladly pay your price… I would then send you my controller and you can start a Bussiness.
LMK
Why bother to change a perfect throttle on a e scooter.. people are Soo dumb..waste of time and money.l