How much RAM Do you ACTUALLY Need For Gaming? (2023)
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- čas přidán 8. 08. 2021
- Today we are testing how much ram you really need for a budget gaming pc in 2021. Is it as much as you might think?
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You are so right. 32 gigs is a waste. That is why I run 64 gigs now.
lol
You had me in the first half not gonna lie.
Hell yeah 4 real I’m running 64 too. 👌😂
Rookie number. I’m running 1 petabyte of ram
yeah you can barely run virtual machines with that much smh
For all the ones who question what ram is, think of it like this. Let’s say you want to build a birdhouse, well in order to build one, you would need to a work bench. But let’s say you have a tiny workbench (8 gigs), then you would be limited to what you could put on the work bench, such as tools, materials and such, making the work bench more crowded and leaving you continuously having to take things off the bench in order to put the needed things on it, making the process in the build slower. But now, let’s say you have a bigger work bench (16 gigs), big enough to put every single thing needed to build the birdhouse, then you would be able to build the birdhouse much more “fluently” and much quicker, making everything in the process smoother and organized. Now, let’s say you have a really big work bench (32 gig), you would be able to have all the materials on the bench, but you would have a lot of unused and empty space, making that empty and unused space pointless.That’s basically how ram works.
Going by that example then the 32 GB workbench is still better because now you not only have enough space for everything needed to build the birdhouse, but you also have extra space for anything else, like say you want to use a laptop to watch a CZcams video with a guide on how to build the birdhouse or a Bluetooth speaker playing music. Likewise on a PC, the game itself won't use 32 GB of RAM, but it's way better to have that extra breathing room for other applications. I mean I just upgraded to 32 GB of ram yesterday since I had a bit of spare money and I thought I didn't really need that much but I actually did, now I'm easily surpassing 16 GB of ram used and I'm really glad I upgraded because I don't need to worry so much about how many programs I have running at the same time.
Bro, this is an underrated comment, Thank you!
This is such a perfect explanation
That comment was super Saiyan god level.
Now all I need is someone to explain every part of the pc like the way you did here.
I recently went from 16gb to 32gb on my 4820k/1070 combo and for 40 dollars I'm very happy with the upgrade. Everything runs smoother, stuttering went away. Rust will use 20gb+, DCS will use nearly 20, Star Citizen benefitted the most, though the RAM did not fix the broken missions.
Rust always crashed now it’s smooth af and haven’t crashed since the 32 gb upgrade
Oh a fellow rust player. Yeah rust loves ram lol
How is rust running on that pc? What settings do you use and what kind of fps u get? Iam planning on bilding pc for rust cuz mine sucks!
Rust is why I'm here lol just went from 8gb to 32bg
@@likizbajke01 With that 4820k and 32 gb ram/ gtx 1070 I would run maxed out at 1080p getting about 48 to 70 fps depending on the map. The extra ram really helped out the 1% lows. I recently swapped the CPU for a used I7-4960x (from Ebay for $140) which increased the average FPS to around 58 to 90. Would recommend that processor if you already have a system running that generation motherboard.
Thank you for this video, Im upgrading the ram in my pc from 8 to 32 and everything you’ve stated are the answers to my questions 💪🏿💯
Same
Same bro my pc has had 8gb for far too long it’s starting to cause latency for me
For fortnite, if you want to benchmark with different specs, you can use the in game replay mode to view previous matches and you can do this to make the circumstances exactly the same between each hardware swap.
Wow big brain actually
Pretty sure replays were down for a week and a half, not sure if they’re back tho lmao
@StronkGamer you’re not wrong, but in a case of comparing different hardware configs that doesn’t really matter
i think the FPS are higher I believe in replay mode
U can also switch settings from performance to all epic for more testing
As soon as I added a second 16gb kit to my existing 16gb, I immediately felt a HUGE difference. WZ started using 16.2 gigs.
That upgrade unleaches 99,99% of games. Exeption : Cities:Skylines that can need 128 GB if you're going nuts with detailing
Mind sharing the rest of your components please
@@Spido68_the_spectator and here I was thinking on getting 64 gigs for cities skylines lmao. How much is a 128 GB one?
@@myvidaloka 64 will allow you to detail even more, but one guy i know is an ultra detailers with 12k assets and 130 mods and he still gets 100 GB of pagefile usage 🤣
@@Spido68_the_spectator so for a normal user we have no need to go that high
Makes me nostalgic for my first computer - a Timex-Sinclair ZX-81 with a whopping 16Kb (yes, kilobytes) of RAM. It was on an expansion module that plugged into the back and was held on with a velcro strip, that made it a processing monster compared to its onboard 3Kb of RAM.
I don't remember the ram we had, but it was 166mhz, and started with a 2MB GPU and upgraded to a 4MB GPU, lol.
Alright nasa boy
Dudes first computer is older than I am lmao
I remember usb sticks of 32MB. Now you get the same (or even smaller) usb sticks of a couple TB! Even the very small micro sd have 1TB. Like how does that fit on it :o
Wow it means your very old bro
I just went for 32GB, because it's a new build and I intend to use it for the next 6-8 years (AM5 platform, so might upgrade the CPU in the future), plus I found a 2x16GB kit of DDR5 which was only about 30% more than the cheapest 2X8GB kits of same speed and latency.
2x48!!!!!! It is actually only a few hundred. Which doesnt seem to bad. Hahaha. I cant wait for 1x64 and 2x64 to actually be supported by gaming motherboards
16GB minimum and 32GB for future, RAM is cheap (DDR4)
@@ALPHABYTE64 I run 64 gigs the pc I have I think I built it for a total of 5k or around that number
Yo hit me up in 6-8 years when youre looking to sell your rig 😂
From years (decades) of experience, the simple answer is the fastest RAM your motherboard will support and as much as you can afford. If you can afford to max out your RAM, do it. Windows loves RAM, games love RAM, almost every other application loves RAM. You can never have too much.
@Gamy Auras but bro he didn't mention that RAM Loves more RAM
16GB is all that's really needed currently for the vast majority of gamers. I got 32GB simply because it was only like $10 more during a sale when I was upgrading but I never really use that much.
I'm currently using R5 5600G + DDR4 16GB (2x8) 3600Mhz is that enough for gaming ?
Saving couple months before moving to R7 5800X + RX6650XT.
That's why I always download more RAM from the internet
@@darkerpath That's my current setup as well. Definitely enough if you don't mind turning off a few things, and FSR can literally save you. HOWEVER -- buy your RX6650XT before anything else, specially if your budget is tight. This processor is powerful enough so it won't be a bottleneck, but the iGPU is simply not enough for nowadays.
32gb is a great purchase especially if you multitask and do video editing, lots of browser tabs. 8-16gb is enough for bare bones a game and maybe a couple background tasks.
so I know im late to this video but if you are curious from my experience...Back in my old PC in May of 2020 I had a Ryzen 7 1700/GTX 1060 6GB/8GB ram. It worked for a lot of different games until I hit CoD2019. I would get small stutters here and there when I would have Chrome/discord/spotify running while MW was running as well. Lots of packet loss as well (never really sure if that was internet based but theres more to the story). SO after buying just another 8GB ram stick for $30 I installed it and my frames were more consistent, No stuttering at all unless it came from my HDD (yes I had an SSD but only 120gb). Also the packet loss was eliminated. I eventually updated to 32 gigs because why not and the ram I had was DDR4 3000mhz so it was cheap. The FPS stayed about the same as well anywhere from 65-130 depending on the map. Just thought i'd share. I have 16GB in my current rig but most likely will be updated to full 32gb. I have a i7 8700k with a 2080. Works well, but eventually i'll upgrade. Not sure why I shared this but just thought it was cool and somewhat helpful for anyone who is budget building.
great video. Could you all do a break down for the best sim racing computer on a budget? The idea of paying $3500 is tough - do i really need the best? Any suggestions would be awesome!
I did some testing recently, I found that if you don't have much physical RAM, Windows will use virtual RAM from the Page File. If your page file is allocated to an SSD, this has minimal impact; if your page file is on a hard drive, it can be painfully slow.
even on ssd, pagefile will cause studder. if its going to pagefile you are introducing a bottleneck.
This was found to be true by several youtubers who did this same test. Not Enough ram to not force use of pagefile causes performance issues
This will decrease the life expectancy of the SSD
Won't be minimal and all that writing and rewriting on the SSD is gonna wear it out
@@serimar Setting a pagefile will speed up games, windows and load times. I have been doing it for years. When I had 8gb ram I would set a 8gb pagefile now I have 16gb ram and run 16gb pagefile on a M.2 SSD but I just started mining this year when not gaming so you need a pagefile for mining and if you turn the pagefile off a lot of apps will not run or open with no or a low pagefile.
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Testing one game. Very thorough 😂
For gaming itself, 16gb to 32gb isn't a huge difference, but when you want to stream using stuff like OBS or Streamlabs, or screencap your games and do video editing, the extra ram definitely makes a difference.
If you play warzone you need more then 16gb
@@shiftlimited8363I only have 1 stick of ram. ☠️ guess I’m fucked
Nuh uh. If you are getting warnings or your ram is leaking it's probably the frame that is leaking not the actual ram@@shiftlimited8363
@@shiftlimited8363 no you don't lol i have a MSI laptop 16gb and it runs 200 fps lol
@@shiftlimited8363not rly 16 is enough for wz
I’ve had 32gb in my system for years I used to struggle running rust at high settings with 16gb so I upgraded to 32gb checked usage and rust was using 16.4gb
Remember CAS times and row times change (get slower) as more ram sticks are put into the motherboard...That's why if you are going to upgrade ram make sure to use to larger sticks not 4 if possible. You can also mostly forget T1 timing with 4 sticks of ram.
I have two T-Force 32GB 3600 cl14 kits. One white and one black. It works just fine with T1 timing.
this solely depends on your CPU's memory controller capacity.... more channels filled is actually faster. with 4 RAM sticks with an approriate CPU will allow you to run in dual rank which is much more effecient than any 2 DIMM setup.
to add to this, you dont NEED 4 sticks to run ram in dual rank, however you do need a minimum overall memory size of 32GB
When I play Cold War, I'm usually using about 12.5gb of ram. But since I stream Cold War sometimes and I have one window open of Edge, I'm using about 18gb of ram. Having 32gb of ram gives your PC more breathing room for multitasking and you never have a bottleneck with ram.
That's literally what ram is used to do
Nice! I got a gaming laptop and my brother hooked me up with a new SSD as well as 32gb ram. May I ask what graphic card are you using?
@@Skate247allday123 what specs laptop??
@@1hezzi I would definitely recommend gtx 1650 or 1060
@@1hezzi I would go 20 or better I just got thx msi katana 11 gen intel i7 11800h 3050 ti runs wz at 150-160 regular
I went with 32 gigs of ddr5 ram on a new build, might add two more after a while but for now this is going to go a long way
Thank you a lot I think I'm going to stick with 16GB of RAM because I need a new PC and this one only has 3GB of RAM so thank you for telling me how I might want to do this as a CZcamsr thank you a lot!😊
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Btw if your playing on games that are always set to 4K max settings your ram usage will almost double. 1080p max settings on most games will use between 8-15GB but 4K Max Settings can use up to 16-26GB Ram
For one of my old computers, upgrading to 16gb was the difference between playable and not playable. I ran out of ram in multiple games and it took me a while to figure out the what caused the crashes :D
Upgrade to 32 and you have so much more space
@@IN-pr3lw step one of upgrading ram: win the lottery 😂
@@jamesdonnelly7194 exactly bro ppl think 32 gb is free
@@XYZ-ql1fi I just got 32 GB RAM today… I upgraded from 8 GB to 32GB can’t wait to see the difference
@@zurfield7226 and how much did it cost?
Also the type of ram can affect your gaming experience. I recently upgraded from 3200mhz to 4000mhz ram and the difference for me has been just substantial.
Or sometimes slower ram for certain X99 CPU's
I’m guessing you’re using Ryzen? What’s the difference in performance it surely can’t be that much unless synthetic benchmarks or you’re using an APU
Yeah the mhz does wonders
Speed not type ediot
@@Shvraz yeah I use ryzen, my rx 6800 and my ryzen 7 3700x were bottlenecked by my slow ram speeds
It all depends on the game. Most games aren't going to have an issue if you have 16 Gb. I play a ton of 7 Days to Die and it absolutely does utilize more RAM. Last alpha I'd hit 17 Gb RAM in use. A20 has me at 15 Gb RAM in use. And that's not taking into account any collapses or roaming hordes that show up. I have a mod in so the hordes are absolutely massive. The thing is, that if you have bottlenecks elsewhere in the system, you will never see that RAM get used. So, a pc build is still a game of balancing parts. Don't pair a flagship gpu with an extreme budget cpu and don't pair a high end cpu and gpu with 8 Gb of RAM. As long as your parts make sense together, you won't have issues.
One other benifit of using 32 gigs of ram, it would increase your Drives lifespan by it using less paging and with ssds they have a limit to how many times they can read and write therefore paging will decrease the life span of your ssd, but you can also just use a USB flash drive for paging instead.
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Thank you for making this video.
So basically:
8GB: Minimum
16GB: Sweet Spot
32GB: Necessary for certain situations
64GB: Overkill
I bought star citizen and i had 16 gb ram not good neededcat least 32
64gb is defo not overkill. Especially not for citites skylines with 1mil assets
i always say any thing worth doing is worth overdoing ! Overkill is just underestimated imho..32gb and 64gb is butter smooth
in halo or the division, there is no such thing as overkill, only 'open fire' and 'I need to reload'
@@RogueEnthiusiast XD
I was expecting you guys to touch more on speeds as well, as they can make a pretty noticable difference
My Acer Nitro 5 had two 32GB Rams running that bad boy at 64GB Ram it has never failed me and performance is wow… when I had 16GB Ram a few games ran smooth but time to time went sticky…. This is why I upgraded so high. Never had a problem since
You need 8,
16 is the most your gonna need.
32 is for multitasking.
I multi-task with 8 GB, but I think it depends on what you're doing.
@@rotzloffel matter whats open,
16, 32, 64gb makes very little diffrence. I run my current PC with 16gb atm with 30+ chrome tabs (dont know why people think this is a big deal....) 2 games running, music and some work stuff.
I dont notice a lot of diffrence between my 3 systems based on the ram. (very similair in specs just ram diffrence)
I only notice a hugh diffrence when doing graphic design and movie rendering. Thats what my 64 gig system is for. But my previous system that had 32gb ram felt so much slower than my new one. Even if its compareble the same.
Current system, 16gb ram, Ryzen 5 5600x, 3070ti.
Old system, 1080ti, 32gb ram, i9 9900k.
What made a hugh diffrence is what kind of storage i took. My old pc have a samsung 870 ssd on 2tb. But my new one got 2 Samsung 980 pro 1tb. Thats a HUGH diffrence in performance.
And the diffrence in price of a 2tb samsung 870 ssd in my old pc and a 1tb 980 pro?
The 2TB samsung 870 is 300 ish and the 1 980 pro is 200. So its CHEAPER with the 980 pro but its TONS better for the performance of the PC.
I have 8gb, playing valorant and have 2 tabs in firefox CZcams and Facebook.
@@rynldio755 yeah 16gb gb is really the sweet spot to play any game.
Anything above it wont do anything.
Better storage is tons and tons better
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really ram comes down to what you like to do, like me i like to run multiple tabs and do multiple tasks while playing games. so 3600 32gb is what i need there definitely is a notice in performance but its relatively small, +5% in frames on average aswell as helping high cpu demanding game rendering such as Microsoft flight simulator and other open world games such as GTA5 and CyberPunk which in these massive open world games your ram and cpu selections will be noticeable
I find that the only game that has caused a memory issue for me so far was Star Citizen. At 16gb of RAM, it's JUST playable, but not really capable of handling more than the game as my memory is capped the whole time while playing it.
There are a few games I've played that should require more than 16gb of ram for example Cities skyline. 16 gb is a min for that game lol.
@@midnitesnac Agreed. Games like that make sense to have at least 16gb of ram since you rendering a huuuuge map at times haha
@Swag Land 8 GB? OOOOOOOF
Beam NG Drive takes ALOT of RAM. Some maps require 16GB RAM.
Don't feel bad. I've got 64 gigs of memory and Star Citizen is still JUST playable.... Wasted my money on that one MANY years ago....
3 years age i had a custom gaming pc built up to my specs. Since i was under budget i decided to get 128 GB of Rams to test how much rams each game can take. The idea was to test the 128 GB the remove some of it icn case of performance issues. The Maximum usage from a software was 36 gb and it was from msfs 2020 running with a minimum amount of addons. The other games that i play generally take less than 32 Gb but a lot of them are close or a bit above the 32 Gb. and on the performance issues, no remarquable difference, so i still run with 128 Gb of rams.
When warzone first came out I was using 16 fb ram and my cpu was running hard (70-80%) upgraded to 32 and everything just ran better. I used the same ram (Corsair LPX 3200mhz) just went from 2 sticks of 8gb to 2 sticks of 16gb.
I remember playing Deus Ex: Mankind Divided with 8GB of RAM. Load times longer than a full minute. Upgrading the RAM (and nothing else) dropped the load times by like 80%.
That's the power of dual channel.
I was already on dual channel. Two sticks upgraded to four.
Legit tests showed big performance gains on Ryzen 5000 when using 4 dimms instead of two.
Good to know, but at the time I was on an AMD FX-8320.
It’s crazy I was just about to google this question!
this is a good test for people that only have a game open. Pretty much everyone I know has at least discord open which is pretty ram heavy so if you are gonna be gaming with friends this might not be the right guide for you. In my experiences 32 gigs of ram is a minimum if you want to have zero issues no matter what you have open in the background plus ram is very cheap right now so it wont break the bank.
It's the clock rate and how often the mobo interacts with the ram which is the most important. That's like how fast you can bail water out of the boat where as the capacity of ram is like how much water can go into the boat before it starts sinking. If the clock rate is too low then eventually you'll run out of avalibile ram.
also something to consider is if you are using integrated graphics like on AMD Ryzen 7 5700G if you have 16gb ram then the IGPU will have 8gb of shared memory but if you want to have 16gb of shared memory for the IGPU then you have to have 32gb of ram.
does this include the intel iris xe?
for i5-1135g7
You could've checked the timings being used for each kit in realtime with something like CPU-Z (Memory tab).
4gb here on a core2quad 8200 and old nvidia card. Still can play wolfenstein 2 full at screen resolution 1440 960. Yes its ancient and the sustem is basically from 2006 with a 2008 cpu and ssd. the cpu costed me this week 1eur and ordered extra 4gb ram for 12eur. not bad for a 15years old pc that can do 99% if daily tasks as fast as any modern machine. So nostalgic when was 20 years old and played everything that came out. Enjoy your youth outside also don't forget that!
It's good to see that the 16gb ram I built my rig back in 2016 are still more than adequate today.
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Have you looked at how speed affects gaming performance? Perhaps using a single high performance kit and manually clocking the speed and timings to compare?
The speed of the ram is only going to do so much for gaming. The amount of ram is mite important.
@@evacody1249 But once you reach the "that is enough" barrier then speed becomes more useful than additional capacity
as much as you can afford , that's how much
if you play games especially , it opens up your gaming world like nothing else really does
objects load in quicker while running through a world , looking around with the mouse feels SO MUCH smoother
and it gives you a bit more depth to your game , a new dimension , if you will
i felt this when i went from 8 to 16 , and i felt it again when going for 32 GB
I run 32gb of 3600mhz in my midrange build with a R5 5600x and 2070 both OC and it definitely allows me to max out my build and multitasking is so smooth I could never have less than 32gb. 16gb is definitely sufficient for just gaming and basic multitasking though.
There's a game called Space Engineers that you can build all sorts of vehicles and bases. When you start to have to many things it gets pretty iffy if you don't have a boatload of RAM. 8 is a technical minimum but 16 is kind of standard and 32 is helpful.
I've got 64 gig of that exact ram it's excellent ram and never let me down , I did have to set it up in the bios to get full potential.
I generally just keep an eye on how much RAM I normally use. I run a dual monitor setup and pretty much always have something going on using my second monitor. Sometimes I'll even have a second client running (Generally when I'm playing EVE Online). Two PC's ago I was creeping up on 16 gigs pretty regularly. Since then I've been putting 32 gigs in my builds. I don't foresee myself going much higher anytime soon.
same. 16gb isn't enough if you have multi monitors and applications running. I have 2 1080p gaming monitors and plan to upgrade to 32 gb soon.
Upgrading from my late 2013 MacBook Pro to a laptop with 1tb storage, 32 gigs of ram, and an rtx 3060. Safe to say I am BEYOND hyped
My game was lagging on 16gb, once I got 32GB the game didn't stutter at all. The game wasn't optimised at all but at least in the future if games arent optimised it'll run for me and I wont have to wait until new patches get released
The only time I saw RAM being an issue is when I tried to train a music recommendation system in Python. If you are playing around with Artificial Intelligence you can easily exceed the system resources.
Thanks for making this video, I just recently bought my parts for my pc and was deciding between 16 and 32gb of ram! 🙂
Go 32 if you rock dual monitors.
@@Collins7.3l Thanks for the suggestion I have currently bought my cpu the i5 11600k and will plan to buy some Corsair vengeance memory.
@@keyan7805 you’re welcome. 32 is great. Even if you don’t encode or anything. Or example. When I used to play Warzone I would be in “downtown” and I would be using like 18-19gb with a CZcams tab open. Msi afterburner. A couple chrome tabs. Discord. Ram cleaner application. (On my second monitor) with the current games I play I run around 15/16ish with the same tabs open. And when I do encode a CZcams video or something. Then I’m using like 24GB. Moral of my argument is. If you love multitasking. Then 32 is absolutely the move from dual monitors.
@@Collins7.3l i thought a higher core cpu would be better for multiple monitors?
@@mikeramos91 no cpu core count matter for work stations. Dual monitors are gpu dependent. I mentioned to have more ram available because you can get carried away with dual monitors. Spotify. CZcams. 5 chrome tabs. Wallpaper engine (moving images). Discord. Msi afterburner (any monitoring software) and who knows what else you may like. Oh and plus your video game. 16Gb is trash these days. It just goes by sooooo quickly. I’m always using 16gb bare minimum all day everyday. If you just want 16gb there’s no point of having dual monitors cuz you’ll probably only have 1 thing open before you’re out of memory. Especially with these demanding triple A titles these days. Best of luck. Let me know what you decide.
Side Note: core counts do matter if you edit (endcode videos) cuz you can share your cpus cores between your game and your encoding program. I’m not 100% sure on how much cores you need if you do that stuff tho. You might have to do your own research im sorry. Since I’m unknowledgeable on end coding.
I started off with 16gb of ram. Two 8gb sticks. I didn't like the empty slots so I went to 32gb lol!!! it did help with multitasking.
Gotta make things symmetrical. I can relate.
@TERGRAX G Only reason I have 4x8 GB in my MB now...lol
Thanks for this nice video, Im running on 9100f gt 1030 8gig ram dual chan for almost 3 years now, in 3 weeks ima upgrade to RTX 2060 and 32gig ram :D
I could go for 16Gigm but what the hell, ima go for 32Gig cause m sick and tired of 8gig ram and want to splurge :D
Also have many browsing tabs open, so this 32gig ram will work sweet
It doesn't actually only depend on the RAM if you want to have more FPS, but on the VRAM of the graphics card, the PCI-Version the motherboard has, with how many lanes the RAM and the graphics card it's connected to the Mainboard, and which DDR-Version the mainboard supports and which speed it has, whether you are using Dual-Channel or not, and so on...
The Division 2: 15,5-16GB usage 1440P
Warzone: 14GB and after 2 hours playing 17-18GB
I'd like to see a comparison with faster ram and worse latency vs slower ram with better timings.
Cas latency could be a reason some are slower or faster, idk if the cas is different between the ram but it could be possible.
I have a question [I might subscribe if u answer] , does the amount of ram influence the amount of render distance in Minecraft you can achieve [with mods of course] before low frame rates?
I changed from 8 to 16 on my pc and it made a huge difference in all games from csgo to cod
Upgrading to 32 GB makes sense if you stream and have a lot of things running outside of your game. 32 GB RAM also mean that you don't have to care about how much your apps are spending...everything runs smooth and nice regardless. (If you have a decent CPU & GPU that is)
thats what i did lol
Or if a specific game eats up ram. Cities Skylines with added workshop content cam eat ram like crazy, as much as you throw at it. I have 16G, and I have problems loading too much content. Most tutorial makers for that game have 64 or 128.
But the game will let you load thousands of workshop assets with save games that take 15min to load.
@@peterbelanger4094 yes minimum for cities skylines for me is 32GB. 16GB is not enough if it’s heavily modded or lots of assets
Can u please tell me which system performance app you're using for testing! Thanks
So basically more it's better, but use a single stick it possible. Great video!
not sure why streamers and tech channels don't mention more often that mixing ram kits isn't recommended.. and it's smthg i wish i knew ahead of building my first pc build in over a decade --back in 2018/19 when i built mine. If i had known that beforehand i would've just forked up the extra amount to go straight to 32GB ram instead of simply 16GB ram. You would think it's okay to just add the 16GB ram to the existing 16GB ram i started with..but it's not recommended. So i think this idea should also be noted early on for new PC builders. Not rly disputing many of the pts the video raises but if you think you will end up up-sizing your PC uses/needs.. i would recommend upsizing the RAM at the beginning and save yourself from potential more cost later.
Unless you plan to overclock or tweaking the timing it's very unlikely you'll run into problem. I've been mixing RAM kits the last 10 years and never had any problem.
You are using MSI Afterburner and you aren't displaying the Frame Rate + Frame Times. That is where you will see the differences from 8, 16, & 32 GB. Also don't forget, it's highly dependent on the game and the user's PC. If the user has a ton of side apps loaded, having more RAM helps big time. If the user is using a fresh Windows install and just the game... Well yeah, 8 GB is probably enough but, almost no one runs their rig like that. GTA 5 (12 GB of RAM Recommended) & Read Dead 2, would have been games that would show differences as well. Then there is also the RAM speed that will show differences. All of that stuff is important to take into account and shouldn't have been left out of this video imo.
It would have been much better to see a side to side comparasion of the different gb of ram
I mainly upgraded the RAM from 16>32gb to reduce caching wear on my NVME drive. Was surprised to find a few games i play started using over 20gb when it was available. So yeh 32 gb isnt ridiculous
I upgraded from 16 and was surprised the difference it made. Rig is much more comfortable.
try setting up Empty Standby Memory
I upgraded a budget PC from 8gb to 16gb and the micro stutters don't happen as much, and avg fps was more stable. Most games run comfortably around the 10-12gb usage rate. It's also a cheap upgrade to go from 8 to 16 anyways.
with 32 your micro stutters would be non existent... just saying
@@youtubeistoogayformycomments I have micro stutters should l upgrade to a 32? Have 16gb
Before watching the video I just feel like sharing my experiences.
I've easily used more than 8GB of ram. Just having my browser open with discord, steam, whatever else, brings it to 40%, and I have 16GB.
However, I don't play very RAM intensive games, so I haven't used more than the remaining 8GB, though some games have taken up over 4GB.
One final thing to note is that if you have the budget, go for it. 32GB will be quite future-proof, and give more than enough RAM for any current game on ultra. You can get a 32GB kit at 3200mhz for $140 as of writing this.
Ur the best
Also a tip for anyone reading this: buy rgb ram covers 👍
where you buying and what brand?
Try playing city sky lines on 16gb lmao
@@User90872 everyone mention that game yes for that specific game you need more ram but you realize that not every gamer plays that game right? also most people here keep screaming about only the GB but there are more specs to a ram that matters like its mhz, ddr etc
Great informative video Thanks guys you just saved me 47 bucks!
i saw an improvement from 32gb to 64gb but its only because i was using 2 single rank dimms and now ive got 4 single rank dimms. i wouldnt have seen a difference if i had 2 double rank dimms and tried the same upgrade
it’s still good to upgrade to 32GB. It’s always good to have more if you want to futureproof your pc. If one day you do decide to stream and use your PC for others things besides gaming (which you should), then at least you have the tools handy.
Damn I was trying to get 100 FPS so took it to shop to upgrade too 16 Gb cause I heard 32 wouldn’t help boost it much it goes to like 80 rn wish it were a bit better
just get 16GB kit first then upgrade to 32 when u needed it.
@@Orly-pl4un you should ideally upgrade the graphics card/CPU if you want to achieve a higher frame rate like that
@@Gattberserk just get 32GB to start
Will I still be able to screen record games (not stream) and still maintain high fps with 16gb ram?
16gb is the new minimum but most forgotten is the memory frequency, i came from 8gb -16gb a 1666 but now have 16gb at 2600 is a huge improvement to overall performance.
Why did the minimum get higher?
@@elvar9753 because games use more ram :D
I use 16GB 2x8GB at 3600Mhz.Trident Neo RAM. I play MWII with music in the background from my library, a couple tabs open from my browser and facebook messenger video chat up and running. I have recorded game play in the past while playing as well. Do I think 32GB would be better? Of course, but 16 still works.
The more RAM you have, the more apps you can run simultaneously. I like to think of my RAM as my computer's "desk-space". When I'm running a taxing game and streaming it through OBS, it takes most of my 16 gigs of RAM. so if I wanted to make a video call or edit a video while I'm streaming, would need more RAM, about 3-5 extra gigs for each extra ap I would I want to run.
Went from 16 gig @266mhg dual channel to 32 gig @360mhz dual.
I benchmarked on Timespy before and after. Original score 11996. New Score 12296.
I have an i9 9900k with a 2080ti.
Now replaced the 2080ti with a 3080ti and it hits just under 17k 👌
U have the dream pc
I feel like it depends on your PC, background processes, and what game you're playing. I had 16gb and it wasn't enough when I was playing escape from tarkov. Got 32gb and it works perfectly now
What’s your processor and graphics card
@@tsgazurite8140 i5 10400 and an rtx 3060ti 8gb
32GiGs is the sweet spot.
@@gnbilios exactly
@@Blackout020 i5 10400 + 3060ti = bottleneck :)
I upgraded to 32gb few weeks ago, because i play a lot of rust, and after upgrading it, i don't have stutters, the frames increased from 100 to 105, not a big difference, but not having stuttering is a huge difference. When i had 16Gb i couldnt open chrome, and discord would make this stuttering worse. So yeah, in rust, is pretty convinient upgrading to 32
the stutters could be paks
Yeah I think I would’ve appreciated you using a better graphics card so that we got more data. Also it would’ve been nice to see what true XMP can do for a system. Not just being stuck at 2666. I mean it’s intel so numbers prob aren’t that different. But would’ve been nice to see.
K procesors can breack those limit, if u have a z490 board. Im on a i7 10700K 2x16 at 3200Mhz. This is the diference, I was able to corroborate it in Warzone a big improvement when I went from 2666 to 3200.
@@wolfoxpc it was six months ago when I made this, but I think my point was that fast ram on Intel boards doesn’t make that much of a difference compared to ram speeds on ryzen
@@codycroosh3073 WTF, a lot MORE of fps and stability from 5800x to a 10700K xDD same mems hahaha. You re doing any wrong.
@@wolfoxpc you’re really trying to say that the 10700k gives u more performance than the 5800x ..? I mean good for you if u found 1 game that can beat the 5800x. But please don’t act like I’m crazy bc You are in the minority on that statement. Stability i can see that. Ryzen seems to be more finicky
@@wolfoxpc u clearly had a f'd up 5800x or u were bottlenecking it and if u had the same memory then you were most likely using 2933mhz or lower which isn't a surprise then if the 5800x was under performing!
Guys, the more ram you have the better. Doesnt matter what your graphics processor is or what your cpu is. The goal is to simply allow more data through your microprocessor. Dont think too much into it thats what us electrical engineers do. If you typically have alot of windows running, or simply play data saturating programs, then yes get more ram it will not hurt.
So it doesn't matter if the processor is small, or the graphics card is low all u need is to get more ram ?
This is stupid. Unless you have high end gpu and cpu increasing ram makes literally 0 difference. Your processors will bottleneck you hard even if you were to allocate 128gb
@@ManiacalPenguin_ which GPU is best for i7 processor?
@@Abdi-libaax which processor lol tell us the exact model first
@@olayinkaadam8066 that's not even close to what he said why are so many people unable to read properly 💀
From my experience, it all depends how many important applications you need windows to start up. If you want a few important applications always running when windows is started, then it is better to increase the ram to 32 gig; otherwise, you just remove those apps from startup manual and 16 gig is sufficient.
Oh yeah it does make slight difference, Giggs gives you little lagging it's between 16 gigs + 36 gigs sometimes it's best to go higher gigs
Most games don't need more than 16gb at this point. Anything higher is just good for lowering cpu dependency, which is great if you have an older board running a previous generation chipset.
This is my experience running more recent games on an i7-4820k, 16 to 32gb was a great performance booster.
So going from 2400Mhz to 3200Mhz on my Ryzen 7 1700 I will see a difference?
Edit: I do have it in single channel and not dual which I assume there's major performance to gain? 🤔
Jedi survivor using 27GB of ram, and it just beginning of the game. Anno 2205 at full DLC using 16GB to 17GB if you want to take an older game.
Generally i would recommend at least 32 if youre playing city builder like game.
As someone who is about to install windows on his snapdragon 888 with 8 gigs (samsung s21 5g)
This is good to know
i currently have 16gb of ram and with multitasking from per say going from cod to discord i have a problem with my system basically going into limp mode until i exit out of all applications. after doing that my game will run great again. thinking about upgrading to 32gb of ram to see if it'll help my system out with that.
32 ram is recommended dont let people tell you it's overkill because in most use cases for gamers it's not overkill
32GB will make it smoother
If you tried this in 1440 I think the numbers would show the higher amounts of ram would make a bigger difference. The extra RAM should help with render detail at higher res
As a 3090 Ti owner i've noticed that even at 4k with ultra settings and everything cranked you only end up using maybe 8-10 GB of vram and I think on modded minecraft last night with a texture pack I was using around 19GB of physical ram out of the 64 that i have available.
16 gigs of DDR5 costs ~70 euros while 32gigs of DDR5 costs ~90 euros where I live.
People should just go for 32 gigs now since you ain't saving much money.
I usually don't need 32 gigs but I would've definitely struggled with 16 gigs when I played Hogwarts Legacy or when I host a server/run modded Minecraft clients.
I’m purposefully building mine for overkill. I stream, game and work on the same pc. The better, the easier I can do all of that and have a way better pc than I have now. Currently rocking a 2tb 1650 super with an intel i5 with 16gb ram
Galactic Civilizations 3 can use 32GB of RAM. The main reason for 32GB of RAM is performance. 4x8GB of RAM means Dual Rank which gives better performance. This also means that 16GB of RAM is free for the game and the rest for windows.
Meanwhile I’m playing battlefield 1 with 4gb rams. It does lag sometimes so I need to upgrade soon :)
upgrading my laptop to 16 has made such a huge difference I am not kidding when I felt like I had a totally different laptop
So when you were testing 8GB Ram for example. Is that how much ram was available or is that how much you have on the PC as a whole? Cuz I have 8GB Ram but the system uses about half of it which leaves 4 GB, and it really struggles with Fortnite.
I run 32 gigs because I use one of the minus fourm mini pc with amd onboard graphics,my modded skyrim uses up to 16gigs of my ram at times so having the extra ram helps me some
I have 32gb because i can fill all the slots.
@@sopcannon lmao same
I have 16
i was just watching this with 4gb