How Much RAM Should You Get in 2024?
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00:00 Memory (RAM) Explained
01:49 What is "Swapping"?
05:25 How Much Memory Do You Need?
05:50 Why Choose 8GB
06:06 Why Choose 16GB
06:20 Why Choose 32GB
06:55 Why Choose 64GB or More
07:37 How to Check Your Memory Use
08:42 Why NOT To Upgrade Your Memory
09:49 Conclusion
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Sometimes i feel sorry for all people who don't know you, you really deserve more followers
Thank you so much. Hopefully soon. Yes I do value people's time!
Very very true
@@JustJoshTech Pls do a review on the HP Elitebook 840 G8 or G9
@@JustJoshTechhey Josh need your help. I am going to be studying law probably for the next 4-6/7 years. What laptop is best for me. And I don't care about gaming.
@@aqeeldean686surface pro 9 😉
One thing Josh didn't mention is that some iGPUs can steal away system RAM for use by the iGPU. This is usually dynamic and may rarely be taken away when needed for something other than the GPU. However it's usually a BIOs setting And can just be a static amount that is always reserved for the iGPU whether needed or not
Excellent comment
Soooo.... i have a i3 3520 base model 2023 latitude 15 8gb can i throw another stick of same ram into it and should i? i am emulating old games playing lotro and some vallorant. runs great no gpu.
@@Beforedeth Not only do you want a second stick for more memory but a 2nd stick will turn your memory from Single Channel to Dual Channel.
More memory bandwidth .
Thanks! i got another 8bg in it working great !
@@Beforedeth check how many slots you have,you may have two 4GB sticks in yours, so you need to buy 2 8GB sticks
I'd find a 32 GB to be future proof, however manufactures providing soldiered RAM laptops are trying hard to prevent that.
They followed in Apples footsteps
you can custom order some brands of lapptops so you get what you need right away never buy base model systems from stores unless you know for a fact you can upgrade ram and storage your self whcih would be a but cheaper how ever with apple yup storage and ram are solderd but you can pay for the ram becuase well you have no choice but you should pay for 512 gigs min , so you know the drive is fast and will last now you can use an external thunderbolt build it your self drive i built 2 of them and i can use 1tb or even 4tb in each case and they run at 2557 read and write i built them each exactly the same drives and cases and i use 1 as an external boot drive this way i leave my internal alone this way when i sell it it wont have much or any real use on it which will retain some of the computers value more so then a 1.2 or more wron down built in SSD and 32 gig ram is almost the min for basic use 64 gigs min now for gamming..
Soldered, maybe.
Soldered + 1 free slot is a good compromise, a few models are going that route.
Don''t buy macs
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Just met you today Josh. WOW! This was enlightening with its concise/precise information, eloquently put. "'On'ya mate!" And yeah, I'm sure it works for your mum, but you'd make most Aussies proud. Well done Josh. Cheers from Sydney.
when you flexed your degrees all the comment section warriors packed up their bags and left lmao
:-). So true. Always good when you can drop some credentials. Even myself it worked as reassurance as I’m an 8GB man that for a while started to doubt I got it right! 😅
... and I sat up and started to really pay attention.
I laughed way too hard at this 😂
😂
Only two? Pathetic. I have four.
I like explain RAM like it’s physical desk/table space. More ram = larger desk/table.
You can always working on more things than the desk/table has space for, but completing multiple activities *can* take more time on a smaller desk/table as you may have to shuffle things on and off as needed (eating dinner before playing a board game Vs eating dinner while playing a board game).
Depends on the tasks of course, but playing a board game can take up a lot of space.
That's actually one of the best explanations I've heard, it's perfect
it's also a good analogy because it gets the point across to people that more ram won't necessarily make your process go faster. Having a giant table won't help you eat dinner faster, but you can have more dinner on the table at once.
So thoroughly and simply explained.
Loved it.
This is the most helpful guide I've ever seen on this platform, Thanks a lot!
On the SSD memory swapping point for those curious on the impact, I currently have a Windows 11 laptop with 8GB RAM that I bought just under 2 years ago. Due to the insufficiency of the RAM for my needs I have a 12GB page file to remove hiccups and system halts I'd get otherwise. The swapping does make an appreciable blow on drive health but not necessarily a concerning one in my opinion unless you want to keep your hardware for beyond 10 years.
I'm currently at 82% lifespan left, 26 TBW / 150 TBW for 23 months of use, and this laptop is mostly office centric for the most part in terms of workload, does homework, multiple chrome tabs, some gaming here and there, 1080p video edits on rare occasions, nothing special.
Comparing that to my desktop that has sufficient 16GB of RAM and no page file at all, I have 95% lifespan for over 4 years of usage on that one. Hope that helps with any purchasing decisions
Good comment
It matters more on an 8GB M1/2/3's... as the SSD is soldered on and can not be replaced.
Is ur ssd tiny or just really bad. Ive got a 2tb ssd with 23 terabytes written and it's at 99% write life lmao. Regardless with ssd pricing plummeting u can be even more safe by buying a bigger drive as the TBW spec scales linearlly with capacity. ie the same 1tb model with 600tbw would have 1200tbw at 2tb capacity.
As someone who has been doing desktop support for close to 30 years I can say that as of 2023 whether PC or Mac it is best for everyone to go with 16g of RAM. Even casual users have a habit of creating very complex situations for their machines and having that added memory really helps in not seeing sluggish behavior. Especially because both the MacOS and Windows are eating up more system memory than ever with all the work they are constantly doing in the background. A very basic scenario I see at work is a user with Outlook running, a web browser running, and Word running will be pushing the limits of what 8g of RAM can manage easily. Now a virus scan kicks in, or an update starts to install in the background and suddenly that 8 g feels very sluggish. Or you ask one of those three apps you have open to suddenly do something more demanding and again you're stressing the level of memory. For a long time 4g was fine, then 8g, now it is 16g.
I've been saying this for what, decade? Buy once, cry once. Buy one 16 GB stick even at expense of dual channel to leave space for easy upgrade.
Unless you have like 10 corporate security agents on your machine, than you saturate 16gb with teams and outlook.. I'm just bumping my laptop to 48gb.
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I think you mean, at least 16gb
@@jacobjohnson4763 right, I upgraded all my machines to 32 or some to 64 already
Very good commentary and explanation. Value for time :) awaiting the same info about CPU cores.
Just what I was looking for. Thanks!
As always, a thorough and detailed explanation of RAM. My conclusions are not always the same as yours due to personal preference but I always appreciate you going into detail and sharing exactly why you made the conclusion you have come to. Thank you!
100%
Same here😂
Really appreciate his work and detailing but a lot of times we reach different conclusions.
I had watched several videos but none help like this...tnx indeed🌷
My Mac Pro from 2010 has had 128GB since I bought it on eBay in 2017. Twin Xeon X5690's, 24 threads (3.5GHz), nVidia RTX 2080, modern I/O, NVME SSD and internal RAID5, so she still rips pretty well. I plan on keeping her for a while longer too. Running Garuda Linux as primary OS. I haven't considered a new PC since, won't for a while either.
good presentation Josh, and very carefully delivered. Many thanks for your efforts. Regards N.C.
i actually learned something new today, i didn't know you could look at the paging graph on windows. thanks for the tip. subbed
thank you very much! and God bless your mother, that was such a lovely sign-off off :) loved, liked, and subbed.
thank you for explaining that topic!
I find that if you need to use Excel and use multiple vLookups and cross reference different sheets, etc., then 16GB may not be enough at times if you are dealing with large data sets.
Is this for real?
No
@@falkenvirYes, it is real. But we're talking about large datasets. Something like the sales data for a large corporation for the past calendar year, for example, and cross joining it with shipping data.
I don't think you or your company should still be using Excel for *that large* data set you're talking about. Sometimes it's not the RAM but the program isn't just as powerful as those that are designed to handle that.
Back in Feb 2017, I ordered 32 GB for my 7700K-based rig 'just because', which although unnecessary at the time, will help the rig transition to TrueNAS or ProxMox duties.; next time I build a replacement, I will likely get 64 GB for the same reason! :)
Good choice. I also feel like browsers steal your RAM on purpose.
One thing about Linux is that you can set RAM hard limit for each process
@@HumanBeingSpawnRAM is cheap bro, I just added 32GB's to my 16GB's system. Unless you buy a Crapple.
Wise decision. In 2019 i made a 16 gb ram setup, just threw it in the window last week. 32 is the bare minimum if u wanna sleep well😂
Great video. I thought I understood RAM... they you showed me up! By the way, would love to see a review of the Lenovo Legion Slim 7i considering you loved last year's model.
One of the few reviews that did a good job explaining memory requirements. After 42 years of IT experience, I always said more memory is better UP TO A POINT. His explanation of how a machine uses memory was dead.
Well that was basically always the question I ended up asking myself the whole time I was hopping around looking at gaming laptops. I had no clue about it, all I knew was that my last Laptop that melted down always said the memory was running at 100% a lot of the time when I was trying to game or even just do basic stuff on the computer. Now that wasn’t a gaming laptop but I didn’t want to immediately have a repeat of that situation by choosing the wrong amount of memory, so this video really helped inform me!
I’m a freshman in college and having spent days looking at laptops, finally finding one that I really liked that was also reasonably priced with the help of my sister, and it having soooo many customization options I was worried what features would be worth it to tag on more money for as this is my first gaming laptop ever. Thanks so much for your help in the this process!
I'm glad it helped! Thats whats keeps us going here
Ahhh a good few 4 maybe 6 even years ago I had a 4gb ram laptop
Playing unturned and having Skype up will heat that thing so much you'd think the bottom of the laptop was on fire
This video was very informative, THANK YOU!!
Josh getting straight to the point, no screaming, no fancy intros for 1 minute, no begging for following every 5 minutes. Thank you.
Don't forget that laptops without discrete GPUs also use a part of your RAM (on my AMD 6800H laptop, it uses 4GB of my RAM). 😄
Excellent note
awesome!!! thanks a lot!!!
I work in process automation, including machine vision, integrating but not developing; but I didn't study IT nor electronics, this was big help! ( I must confess I was still using the taskmgr to check performance)
Great job as always.
I replied to your first version of this but I wanted to thank you again for this video. If for no other reason than to help your algorithms. 🙂
Thank you so much Bryan, it really does help alot
I just subscribed to your channel just because of this video
Thank you I’m glad your channel here
Your channel helps keep information balanced
Good video. Im considering upgradeing my ram in my laptop for music production since it workss but struggles when working on projects with lots of plugins. I'll 1st cheek the puformance monter thingy.
Nice video, I run linux, and after reading and testing a lot I came up with some tweaks to improve memory usage on linux. Zswap/Zram are pretty magical, Zswap is better though. I can use a lot of memory thanks to that. 12GB of ram + 18GB swap file (that is barely touched but lets me have a lot of compressed memory!)
Same here. I usually have to change a weird config file in fedora to get the zram to be bigger. I wish there was a way to change it graphically like in windows :[. at least linux doesnt guzzle up 5GBs on idle comapred to 1.6G on fedora
@@zoeyaaahmed203how do you change it in windows?
I always max out the ram. On my older Nitro 5 I had 32GB of ram (2x16gb), on my current Thinkpad T14 Gen 2 I have 48GB (16GB soldered and a stick of 32GB).
'Caysh' - now there's a pronunciation I've not heard before! But I don't have 2 computer science degrees 😂
Great vid!
This is probably the best video I've seen on this topic
Thanks Ben, I appreciate that. Please share if you can. Video could do with some love!
I love that he recommended a different CZcamsr's video because it had good information in there. Thanks!
Excellent explanation. Thanks
Thanks for the nice message
Great video really went into detail about the use cases and helped me a lot!
Best damn video covering this topic by far, and it’s not even close!! I’ve been fighting myself on which one to get for video editing M3 pro vs M3 Max, and thoughts of future proof. He just answered all my questions and concerns in one short video, I’m truly impressed! Great job Josh
Thanks mate. I have a video on the M3 laptops coming out Friday or Saturday. I'd suggest waiting for that one. It may help
8 GB should not be even an option in 2020, let alone 2024.
Great video as always!! I am considering getting a MacBook M1 or M2 for work. I mainly use Excel, Google's online Suite (Sheets...), Python coding and Tableau. I was considering getting the base model with 8GB of RAM. Would you recommend it or should I bump it to the 16GB model?
tysm. u have cleared my confusion. really helpful video👍👍👍
I can get a good deal for the Legion slim 5 14 (soldered memory) but it's 16GB. If I want 32GB I need to "build" my own and that would be €230 more for just the increased memory.
I'm a bit conflicted because I really would like the 32GB but €230 for just 16GB more RAM is just hard to justify
Awesome video thank you for the input
Very good commentary and explanation. Value for time :)
A good trick to accelerate the ram swapping is by putting in a second ssd, and assign the swap file exclusively to that second drive.
Just Josh, would you be able to do a video where you compare the Lenovo Slim Pro 9i vs Zenbook 14x, please and thank you!
Excellent video. THANK YOU 👍
So happy I have found a reviewer I feel I can trust thanks Josh
Such a solid video. I need to upgrade to 32gb as a professional. Rendering videos on 8gb is so slow
Rendering is mostly about GPU power.
Hey Josh. Would you make videos about best budget laptops during Black Fridays or other sales? (In the future around Nov, Dec)
Next video has some. And yes
@@JustJoshTechplease when is the next video should be expected?
@@salaubiola9746 likely Monday latest Tuesday
I would like to know how much difference is the cost between 8Gb and 16Gb memory to a manufacturer to buy wholesale. It is ridiculous that they are still producing some low end computers with 4Gb memory when the cost difference is so little
The big problem is that it isn't possible to upgrade the ram on most laptops anymore after mfg like we used to do.
Paying anything more than 100 bucks for 8gb of ram in a prebuilt should be an illegal upcharge at this point where you can get even ddr5 16gb for 70 or less.
@@harryniedecken5321 like Apple or HP
Good point to raise about looking at performance monitor rather than memory usage.
Hi, do you think the Dell Inspiron 15 i5-1335u, 16gb of ram is a good machine? I am concerned with the low cache speeds vs benchmarks, thanks.
Have just bought a new motherboard/processor for our desktop as currently not compatible with Windows 11, was planning to get 16Gb of RAM but it was only an extra £20 or so to get 32Gb so a bit of a no-brainer, although I don't need it now it could extend the life of the PC by several years.
I went from 32 gb to 64 gb. Didn't notice the difference and it made my bios try to reduce the speed settings even though xmp was used. I learnt that going from two slots to four was trouble 😕😕
On PC I have 64 (2X32GB) working great, having 2 slots left if nessesry,..
Recently I Bought Cheap Laptop (250€ Just to get by on travels and vacation) whit 8GB, and for browsing it works just fine, If I feal it is limited, I will go to 32 whit no wories, RAM stics are werry cheap, I realy dont get why manufacturers have so big price difference between 8 16 32 GB models.
This is a good point, many cheaper motherboards run 4 channel configs slower than dual channel.
there are some interesting laptops that are not sold in the US. will u be interested in checking them out? like for example the Panasonic FV series sold in Japan
Thank you Josh! I just watched a few of your mac videos all together. I have a 2018 15" macbook pro and would like an upgrade since I'm doing more 3D work (Cinema4D & Redshift), would be amazing to hear your thoughts about the 16" Macbook M3Max on their performance if you have knowledge on that. Thanks again. :)
18 months ago I built my AMD R9-5950X system with 128GB DDR4 and an RTX-3080. I thought 128GB would be enough. This summer I built an Intel Xeon W7 workstation with 512GB of DDR5 memory and an RTX-3090. Now I'm closer to what I need. I do Unreal Engine 5 video game design and I also work with large terrains with the software I develop called TerreSculptor.
Yoooo, 512 gigs is wild
I recently got a 64gb kit and thought it would be enough for years to come
At first I thought this was overkill
But if your trying stuff on unreal 5 fair enough
.... got to ask for curiosity (and If you don't know, not sure or don't have a opinion no harm done)
I'm curious for the future of raytracing cause I haven't noticed much when I've used it
And sometimes it doesn't make a difference in graphics
@@levibull6063- I use Unreal Engine 5 and TerreSculptor 3 to create massive open worlds that are 260km x 260km and larger. This simply cannot be done efficiently with less memory. I do large terrain work for various clients in the media industry.
TerreSculptor 3 supports creating terrains up to 1 billion x 1 billion meters, which requires 18 exabytes of memory.
With UE5 and only 128GB of RAM I was always getting out of memory crashes.
Personally, I think that AMD and NVidia will probably improve their raytracing capabilities in their GPUs. And as computers get more powerful, we will get raytracing with more bounces etc, and the real-time quality will just go up. Things like reflections and such will be affected the most. In 5 years we will probably look back at the video quality now and see a big difference.
Josh explaining the RAMifications of your decisions 😉
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I run a Windows VM for my desktop with PCIe gen3 NVMe storage, it's gone from 8 -> 16 -> 20Gb RAM over the last 5 years. I do run around 300 processes and I can get away with 16 as long as I leave it for 10 mins after startup to allow it to _settle down_
you could demo the memory pressure graph in activity monitor on a mac, that is a good way to know if more is needed
I was hoping for more detail on any differences (if any) for different os like Linux or windows vs macOS. But omg thank you for explaining to people that they should check swapping and memory pressure over allocation, I’m sooo tired of people looking at allocation and getting things wrong.
Loved the video but it dint ans the Q i was looking for (no video out there does) if for example i have a 11th gen i5 with 16gb vs 13th i7 with 8gb , which system will perform better for the medium video editing and light gaming use cases ?
I have my workstation fitted with 64gb RAM and use 32gb of that memory as a dedicated Photoshop RAM scratch disk. Works very well for my purposes. Sometimes I use smaller RAM disks for open/save batch processing of files. When everything is operating purely within RAM, it becomes very fast and is very stable. This is my reasoning, although entirely willing to be proved wrong.
Ur right, the access latency of an ssd is just way too large to be used a lot with higher performance applications. When ur cpu updates about every 0.2 nano seconds, having to wait 100 microseconds for data from the ssd is a lot of wasted cpu clock cycles. We're talking a 500,000x difference here lmao. Ram on the otherhand is about 100 nanoseconds.
The Yoga Pro 7 I will be buying soon has only 16gb of ram and it's a bummer as it can't be upgraded. I will probably do fine with just 16gb but would have loved to get 32gb for future proof, and sadly they don't sell a 32gb variant anywhere here
do you consider other brand? acer swifts lines perhaps?
Thank you for this content, I am seing around a brand that I didn't know exist "Captiva" may you tell me some about it is it like MSI was 5 years ago?
thanks :)
EXCELLENT!!! 👌
I have an M2 Max, with the unified memory the 64gb option seemed well positioned for future proofing. If you watch any of the tech CZcamsrs updating Mac’s released 10 years ago, one of the most common moves is to upgrade the ram to as high as the system was designed for, generally doubling from 8 to 16gb.
The big question is: what will be the average amount of RAM be on laptops a decade from now? Or will some other device take its place?
I built a Threadripper 3960X system with 24 cores, 48 threads, a little over a year ago. MOBO (ROG Zenith II Extreme Alpha) has 8 RAM slots on the mobo, each can take up to a 32 GB DIMM. But unfortunately, the AIO cooler I bought for it kind of blocks two of the 8 slots (nearest slot on each side of the cpu). So I have 6 slots * 32 GB = 192 GB of RAM. And quite frankly, I love it. Most modern OSes will utilize all of that RAM as disk cache unless and until it needs to release some for application usage. So basically, after bootup, your drives will only need to read a hard drive block once until next reboot, unless RAM gets low, or you are doing something on the machine that necessitates reading MORE than 192 GB of drive data between reboots. Subsequent reads of that same block will come straight from RAM, rather than asking the HD for it. If/when memory fills with disk cache, most OSes will keep track of which blocks of data are more in demand, and will flush the drive data of blocks that are less frequently requested. Long story short, your drives will last much MUCH longer with lots of free RAM. But as soon as you reboot the machine, it has to start back over caching everything again. So it's best to avoid unnecessary reboots.
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Hi Josh,
I seek ur advise.
I am planning to buy a MacBook but I have been Windows user for last 15 years. My usage is more and of only business usage - browsers (10 tabs at a time), email clients, PDFs & Office apps (excel, powerpoint, Word), watch vides (CZcams on browser), NetFlix, music player (VLC), view photos & videos which I shot using a phone, video conferencing (zoom or similar application), Spotify, ... etc which similar in nature. But in combination and not just single task or application. But may be in future want to do "very basic" photo and video editing. IMportantly I want to use my new MacBook for at least 5 years, because all my Windows laptops (DELL) have lasted at least 6-7 years without problems but with just one upgrades of RAM (ONLY) once in the life of that laptop.
Do you suggest that I stick to 16GB & 1TB on MacBook Pro with M3? Or do I choose 24GB RAM? Because I have seen that (even for basic users like myself) OS (after updates & upgrades) and applications or programs over a period of time gets computational intensive and memory intensive. Also needing fans as I do not trust Apple with passive cooling (so Pro model).
WIth WIndows laptop, I am very clear that 32 GB RAM is needed as Windows memory management is not good and over period of time (in 3 years), its a pain to use Windows with less memory.
Your suggestion/advise will be helpful but I do not hold u on it.
Hi Josh, not expecting you to reply but it would be really helpful if you did. I'm from the UK and I'm looking to buy a laptop for under £700 however in the UK we have heavy VAT on electronics so everything is a lot more expensive than the US and also a lot of the Laptops have different models in Europe than in North America so I can't get any of the laptops you recommend such as the Asus Zenbook 14X because it comes standard with i9 13th gen and is over £1200. I'm looking into a refurbished M1 Macbook Air from 2020 for about £630 pounds for 256GB and £770 for 512GB. However I am concerned if it will be powerful enough and will last long enough. I have a gaming windows desktop at home with 16GB of ram and AMD Ryzen 5 3600 which can run games fine and I've never felt it slowing down. I will be using the Mac for school work while I'm not at home in UK's equivalent of 11th and 12th Grade doing the equivalent of AP Computer Science and also working on an online business when not at home. What do you suggest?
I got my laptop at a great deal with 16GB of RAM. I generally just use 'office' or 'light' usage tasks, but hate closing windows and tabs unless I'm completely finished with the task. I run Linux, and have turned Swappiness entirely off, and unless I launch Minecraft, I almost never go over 8GB of RAM. I'm glad I got 16GB of RAM, but if it wasn't for the occassional Minecraft session, I wouldn't need more than 8GB at all. People go way overkill with RAM imo.
I have more than 8 GBs used up on Windows 10 atm and all I have is 10 opened tabs+email+steam idling. And I want to play videogames too. Yeah you deffo need at least 16 GB.
@@edyslavico3761 👍Totally agree - Windows 10 has always struggled with 8GB RAM. 16GB should be the bare minimum. My gaming PC will often use 17-20GB if it can. About to build a new Windows 11 PC which will have 32GB to start with and space to go up to 64GB (or 128BG if I sell the original 32GB but I can't see needing any more than 32GB for now).
Excellent video! Thank you for clearing things up for me! I'll stick with 32GB Ram
What is the best lap for cording,web development?
Josh please do a review of the legion slim 5!!
I remember getting kidded for get an extra 8k in my Apple II for a total 16k. I was in grad school and our main frame only had 16k. A few years later I was recommending 64k. 40+ years later, l recommend a minimum of 8GB. As you said, computers do change over time. 😊
Have been on 16gb on desktop for last few years and found it has been more than adequate. Finally pulled trigger on an additional 16gb today as it was a pretty good deal. Sometimes it's nice to treat yourself.
Thanks, that was very good for a novice like me. 👍👍
My question at the moment is......... Should I Defrag my Ram and if so, how often?
Thanks, a great explanation.
One good reason for upgrading to 64GB RAM is when you want to play BATTLETECH with the RogueTech mod pack. Base game has always had a memory leak, and unless you want to restart every 30 minutes or so, you need RAM to soak up the bloat.
Quick reminder, portable solutions were made for those who are on the go. Get a workstation. Ten years ago I chose to install 32G of DDR3 which I think is set to 1600, and the slowest part was the hard drive which I did provisioning for Windows back then which increased it's performance. Originally I used Win 8 Pro and dual booted to Debian, until I migrated to Win 10 Pro. I should state that I'm on disability and it's no vacation and I miss work, but I digress. So my base FX-8350 eventually evolved to Ryzens and SSD's which I still did provisioning to reduce "wear" by nearly reducing or eliminating Windows pagefile usage. I'm currently using a Ryzen 5900X with a Mobo that has m.2 nvme's with 32DDR4@3400 with 4G for provisioning in Win 10 Pro. I can't afford an nVidia GPU so I get by with a XFX 5700. I do some minor edits to content from my old GOPro HERO8 that's usually 1080, but now and then I do some 4k with it. And I do boot to Debian (testing) to be able to access more editing tools. I hope that Proton develops where my system will no longer be dependent on Windows for my "toys", aka games before the 2025 Win 10 EOL. Unfortunately my posts on provisioning no longer exists as the forum disappeared which I had shared screen shots of my benchmarks and overall system performance in Windows. Last time I played with Cinebench 2024 my system on multi core was 1206 and 99 on single core for amusement. In 3DMark storage benchmarked my slow PNY CS3040 2T with a 5320 score while the average score is 2717. I do transcode my personal DVD's using Handbrake in order to put them on a microSD which I use in a tablet while winter camping. Sunset comes early here in the PNW. 😉✌
For anyone who really wants to understand this, please watch Mark Russinovich's "Mysteries of Windows Memory Management Revealed". Part II is most relevant for RAM, but Part I is also well worth watching for a deeper understand.
In short, there are two options:
1) Monitor Memory/Available Byes in Perfmon. You likely need more memory if it is consistently low.
2) Start RamMap and open the Priority Summary. You need more memory if priority 6 or 7 has been repurposed.
Impressive technique you have ❤
i work as an IT support, using only web based apps, office task, email, maybe light audio and video editing ( 1080p only ) and small slice of design, still using my 10 years old thinkpad W540 with windows 11 and 32GB of ram and never had any issues at all. ( i know its only runs in sata 3 ssd speed, and far more comfortable with my other younger thinkpad in terms of speed, but since after 4th gen there's no devices than can use 3 drives / SSD+HDD+HDD at the same time, then i think i will stick with this )
Finely a video that include more then just gaming or watching CZcams
Does this apply equally to windows and m-series mac machines? Does RAM go further on the m-series macs due to the unified memory thingy they've got going on?
No ram is ram on base non GPU models both the GPU and CPU share that ram if it is too low the go to the SSD for fake slower ram imitation and wear it out sooner.
Their operating systems handle it totally different as does the hardware to a degree but still 8 gb is 8 gb in either and if you run out or to goes to the speedy SSD.
.that SSD needs to be fast enough and big enough to help out in 8 gb machines.
PC base machines usually now have faster ssds then. Base Mavs which are super slow unless you upgrade.
Soacs don't magically use less memory.
But they do appear to use it more efficiently because data has less places to go to be executed however in the base slow 256 models that SSD is the bottle neck with m1 machines being faster then. M2 machines on things that require a lot of SSD time.
You forgot about software like ms flight simulator which works much better with 32gb. Great video, I learned a few things.
Also think AutoCAD that loves to run on multiple Xeon CPU's.
32 gb. Period. Trust me, I'm struggling with 16.
A common sense tip: don't open 42 chrome tabs while playing microsoft flight simulator WHILE rendering 4k video. 16 is more than enough 🙄
@@Agent-ie3uv haha, u wish so. Probably u dont know what nodejs is 😂
Its solo eats 10gb ram while compiling large projects.
Also firefox/chrome might occasionally eat 3gb ram per tab eeeeesily.
Power is never enough. Any. Just like u buy a car - extra horse power is always good 👍
@@Agent-ie3uvI can’t even render 4k video reliably with 16. New pc has 128
@@MrJloado i still need 16gb if all im going to do is check emails, browse internet and watch netflix?
@@dnegel9546if you are going to do Just that even 8gb would be okay
Today and past few years when I get or build a computer I always put in 16 GB's of RAM, even my parents office PC. Rather just get it now than have to upgrade it later. I do have a new System76 tower with a Ryzen 9 that has 32GB of DDR5....
8:30 35$ for +8GB makes my eyes water as I type this on a mac
Because Apple is price gouging you, stop being locked into their ecosystem and you won’t be priced gouged
I recently updated my gaming PC and added 32GB of CL16 3600MHz DDR4 RAM, the only performance improvement I've noticed has been 1% lows, they've improved. Perhaps it makes more sense for content creators but for gaming 16GB is still the sweet spot.
Apart from The information , what i liked is the way of your presentation and sincerity while giving advice. Love from India 🎉❤
Nice vid mate
For the content creator the more the better, although there does come a point when the computer as a, whole may have some adverse effects with a lot. Still... To have piece of mind when dealing with large project files ide say 64gigs is a must. It's the minimum you'd have in a desktop workstation. 64 has been a mainstay for serious systems for around a decade. It's common for most to have double, so what less would you demand from a mobile device.
Very well described, sincere advisor
Good video. Do I understand correctly that memory swapping takes place between the RAM and SSD? What is keeping the cache memory so small?
My 2Gb ram Thomson laptop on Linux Mint which is barely capable to open CZcams in Falcon: 😢💀