SOUL HUNTER | Warhammer 40k Book Review & Discussion
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The Night Lords were once among the most potent forces of the Imperium, Space Marines who used fear itself as their weapon. Now, cast adrift from the Emperor's light and hunted as heretics after their monstrous betrayal, the Night Lords clad themselves in symbols of death and fight the Long War, bringing pain and terror to all who worship the corpse-god of Terra.
A summons from Warmaster Abaddon sends these rebels on a dangerous journey that leads inexorably to a conflict with the Emperor's chosen warriors, the Blood Angels.
I think my favorite part of Soul Hunter was when Uxel took one look at the dreadnaught and said basically "well we're dead." and Cyrion said "Good, I was tired of your pessimism anyway."
The Ruinous powers pitch to Talos is one of my favorite parts of the book only because of nugle essentially going "Look, i dont got nothing you want and you aint got nothing i want, i just came for the free snacks"
Best comedic moment in the book for me;
‘Souls for the Soul Eater!’ Uzas screamed. ‘Skulls for the Skull Throne!’
‘No one asked you.’
If the Night Lords stayed loyal I could imagine them being like Talos. He's one of the most polite traitors, even to the slaves, but if you disrespect him he'd rip your face off without a second thought. Which happens at one point in the book.
I imagine this happening a lot.
That's my favorite thing about Talos, he had a level of human decency that Chaos normally lacks. That being said he is still a bad guy.
@@Nostroman_Praetor That's what I love about ADB, he fleshes out the traitor Astartes very well and makes them sympathetic. I'm still debating who's the quintessential anti hero in his books (when it comes down to decency) Khayon or Talos. What do you think?
I found Talos to be such an interesting character. Too many people think of the Traitor Legions as being like the World Eaters or the Black Legion, but there are Astartes like Talos who had legitimate gripes with the Imperium. Granted, he *is* still son of Konrad "Murderhobo Batman" Curze, but he still has his honor.
funny you should lump the BL in with the frothing-at-the-mouth murderhobos, Aaron Dempski-Bowden's Black Legion novels paint them in a much more noble light.
BL is very mixed bag
It’s much like Argel Tal, the only redeemable Word Bearer, even if he was demon possessed
Konrad has honor... Misguided it may be.. the night haunter was the crazed hobo
Talos: I've lost my bolter
Malcarion: take mine, I don't need it anymore.
I can’t wait until you guys cover the Iron Hands. Discovering the Iron Hands back in highschool taught me to stop giving a fuck what people thought about my prosthetic leg. The leg drew a lot of unwanted attention, and before I discovered the Iron Hands, I was always reclusive and just trying to keep away. Now I walk tall and proud. To quote Lord Crius of Clan Cadoran, “I don’t feel weaker. I feel stronger.”
I feel you. I had a traumatic eye injury a few years ago, while it wasn’t nearly as bad as loosing a whole limb, it required a near total reconstruction internally. I felt completely useless and that my entire future was ruined. But after a while I embraced it and chose to push on with the whatever the future had for me. The flesh is weak but deeds endure
Hell yeah brother's stand tall!
@@ghostheadferrus8472 I got a bad cut across my left eye and ended up losing most of my vision in that eye
*From the moment I first understood the weakness in my flesh it disgusted me I longed for the purity of the blessed machine*
@@ghostheadferrus8472
Losing an eye is far more tramutic than losing a leg.
Putting aside the physical pain involving within and recovering from such an injury, an eye, a finger, a hand, an arm, these are far more precious than a leg.
These things form the very foundation of our motor skills and - at lesst for me, anyway - my ability to enjoy the world.
Were I to lose an eye (I'm already terrified of losing any more of my already poor sight - it was saved as much as it could be as a baby), a finger, a hand, an arm...that would be it for me. Sure, I could take the long time to learn to do things with one hand or one eye (it depends on the eye), but I just cannot think of a way to do the various hobbies I enjoy missing a arm, a hand or even a finger.
Losing my sight entirely would be 'game over' too. I could not do ANY of the things I enjoy.
My only joys would be my partner and friends, audiobooks, podcasts and the smell amount of music I listen too.
My life would be a shadow of its former self and I never would recover.
Losing a leg, on the other hand (no pun intended)? Outside of the obvious physical pain (I am equally afraid of all these pains), I know for a fact that it really would not traumatize me anywhere near as much as the above things.
It's, again, nowhere near as bad as the above (or hearing lose). Frankly, I think it's almost MINOR in comparison.
Sure, it would be frustrating, annoying and long to re-learn to livey life with one leg (and the lack of balance and possible phantom limb syndrome) but all I would need to accept it would be a good prosthetic and training. Hell, I'm quite sure one could replace a leg with a wooden prosthetic and it would function almost as good.
I would feel quite cool with my prosthetic leg, too (and I say this as a person bullied for her - among many other things - disablities).
The only disadvantages I can think of are if you were being attacked or had to flee, and your prosthetic was taken or lost. Then you would be fucked.
I still love the funny scene where the fragment of nurgle shows up, looks around and complains as to WHY HE IS HERE??!! Talos isn't an acolyte and he's pissed that he was summoned for no reason. I found that funny.
To be honest i find it weird that nurgle had no interest in talos when if anyone, khorne would have less interest. Nurgle has more use for psykers than khorne
@@iharpo9292I mean, Talos barely qualifies as a psyker. The way his precognition works is… murky to say the least, and even if it is a psychic power in the traditional sense, it’s not like Talos can use it on command; it just kinda happens. Considering that he’s a decent melee fighter who takes trophies from worthy foes, Khorne being interested should absolutely come as no surprise. Nurgle, on the other hand, just has no reason whatsoever to want Talos
"I heard bolter fire" is one of the most badass lines in any 40k book.
I love that line
“I cheated.”
Blood angel: Can you get anything on your auspex?
Other Blood Angel: Can't see anything.
Talos before he jumps from the shadows: And that, is why you're gonna die.
Man... I feel terrible for Talos' mom.
That was super grim.
Adhemar didn't bum rush the Dreadnought. He sacrificed himself to it so Xarl and Cyrian (I think it was them) could get to cover because they were wounded.
I wish we had more of him he seemed cool
I think one of the points for me that wasn't mentioned was the tragedy of the void child. How cherished she was and the Blood Angels tearing that hope away again and it wasn't a night lord who did it.
When I got to that part I legit felt cold rage at the Blood Angels (which I normally wouldn’t since I play an army of them).
I think it shows a great moral grey area, it completely demolishes any last bit of idea that you could have that loyalist space marines are good guys. It really drives home the point that space marines would literally slaughter a completely innocent child if it means they get to kill traitors
@@ShadowGhost0117 everyone is the bad guy.
There’s something kind of beautiful that happen in a short story between books 1 and 2 I think, they attack I think an assassin temple or something to recover a holo recording of Konrad. And when they play it the astartes are like making brave faces and some break down in tears, sniffles and hiccups all around. And you realize this was all they came for just to see their dad once more. And these aren’t just astartes these are Night Lords, the skinning people guys, the murder governor daughters broadcast to the world guys, and here they are crying over a recording of their father pretty much cause they love him and they miss him. It’s almost sweet
Septimus
Don't know his actual name ✅
Has dual pistols ✅
Has Fallen for a multiple of 4 ✅
Seppie is Cypher confirmed
The whole scavenging for armor parts really stuck with me, to the point where I went "ooh nice! Think of all the loot the blood angels boarding party left behind" at the end of the book :)
They left a fair amount of kid’s clothes free for reuse too
the first time they're described in the next book, they all have blood angel helmet trophies on their armor and I love it,
Once again the picture of Shy reading the papers while the rest of the cast reads the book they are talking about. She is such a troll and while I usually hate those , I love this.
All shys doing this episode is setting up the image reel for the memes and scenes that play in the video background. After that she's got nothing to do but coffee and read, of course she's gonna be a goblin
Nighlords Trilogy is the magnum opus of 40K grimdark. The setting is extreme, and shapes the characters, and Taalllloosss is A+ anti hero.
Glad you all loved it as much as I did! How did you not mention the gloriously-over-the-top Dreadnought vs Dreadnought fight at the end, tho? “EVEN IN DEATH I AVENGE MYSELF!!!!”
And the voidborn 😢
"YOU DESERVE THE CHANCE" game recognizes game
Uzas: "BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD!"
Cyrion: "Nobody asked you"
Also Cyrion, very casually, to the Atramentar Terminator who could kill him with zero effort: "So, how are you?"
Finally those were the Ruinous Powers themselves, the names they gave were just one of the many that they are known by. They all see Talos as so valuable that they would visit `in person', so to speak, to try and claim him as their own which was actually one of my favourite parts of the book.
I loved it when Nurgle was just you will never be one of my champion and then dipped
Man was Cyrion just about a piece of shit.
Seemed a little Sue-ey to me.
Lol, nurgle really went. I don't want u, and even if I did, u couldn't handle it.
@@LordOfLongwood which is weird considering Ku'goth exists. A constantly depressed and unhappy greater demon.
God if you like Chaos boys in this book, Storm of Iron will be your jam. It's one of the oldest 40k novels and it inspired a massive surge in Iron Warriors players singlehandedly. It's fantastic.
My Favorite part of the book is what the First Claw sees vs what the salves see, where frist claw sees a glorious final boss fight but the slaves just see two boxes with fists just whack eachother itchy-and-scratchy-like.
They've included it into the honsou omnibus, the whole collection is great but this trilogy beats it
Sadly Bricky did not like it at all… Then again, that doesn’t surprise me, No Country for Old Men is his favorite movie after all (don’t get me wrong, it is good, but from my experience anyone who has that as their favorite is extremely pretentious when it comes to judging fictional content)
The irony is that Octavia wanted to be on an Astartes vessel, so she gets her wish, in a dark manner. Night Lords Trilogy is great. Next read For The Emperor, the 1st Ciaphas Cain novel.
I'm currently on blood reaver and there's a great conversation between Octavia and Talos basically talking about how ironic thier lives became. Octavia wanting to navigate an astartes ship and Talos wanting to become a hero.
Just a lore tidbit, the Eldar showed up to M'shen's ship because they were after Curze's crown. Don't quite know why, but the book Lord of the Night by Simon Spurrier goes into this.
The Soul Stone
@@Audiotrocious wait so Curze might still be ‘alive’ ?!
@@BR-bn1mz Oh fuck
@@BR-bn1mz well he better wished he stayed dead. I bet he's just screaming at the top of his lungs: "LET ME DIEEEEEEE! I WANT TO DIE.. I DON'T CARE ABOUT MY LIFE, I NEVER WANT TO BE RESURRECTED! I HATE MY SONS! I rather stay away to chase the infamous milk bottle those slaves keep talking about!"
The void shields are there to keep the penal colony from becoming a recruitment ground for pirate fleets.
The best part of the Nighlords Omnibus is that everything gets paid off, literally everything and it is so satisfying every time. PREY SIGHT!
“Hmm that plot about the daemon in the depths of the ship went nowh-CYRION YOU BASTARD”
Bricky is going to go full on Night Lord fan by the end of the 3rd book in the trilogy
Hasn't he already read them all?
@@crushersbutlessedgynow Yes, he did
@@xaldorsnotgrimdark5972I thought so, also he is already a night lord fan
That 3rd book just hits different at the end
I just got my hands on the Night Lords Omnibus, courtesy of our local Warhammer shop (cost me 90 bucks but worth it) and I’ve just finished reading Soul Hunter. I was a Raven Guard girl before this but I have to say, the Night Lords are giving them a run for their money. Cyrion is absolutely fucking hilarious and Talos is just wonderful as a protagonist.
Modern aircraft carriers can have a crew of thousands, so Imperial space ships that are many times larger having more crew is too be expected. Nightlords would also need more crew members, so they'd have spares when they inevitably murder someone important.
they have so much crew, and the underbelly is basically a mini-Nostramo, I'm surprised they haven't started recruiting new Lords from their own crew lmao
@@Bonavire The problem is that you need children. There were a few characters from the Horus Heresy era who underwent augmentation procedures later in life, like Luther of the Dark Angels or Kor Phaeron of the Word Bearers, but they are described as never being as effective or powerful as Astartes created the "proper way." And as Septimus tells us, the Void-Born was the only child ever born on the ship.
@@ArchangelAzriel1223 damned warp taint making people infertile
The sons of Malice and iron warriors can be more edgy even emperor children are not that edgy
Currently reading Siege of Castellax, the Iron Warriors are pure, unadulterated fucking evil.
Cousin Zeke kinda it depends on with part of the legion because they are extremely resistant to chaos so some even fell some type of GUILT but only some similarity to the sons of malice who still think clearly most of the time only when eating they actually lose their minds but still both are still corrupted by chaos so some of them are completely insane
@@chosenofkhorne2951 The fact that they reject chaos makes them come across as even worse, they actively choose to do the horrible things they do, rather than being coerced into it.
@ Cousin Zeke that is the sons of Malice iron warriors some people are just evil
I'm actually glad your'e covering the book fully, I don't wanna be giving GW any of my money right now.
Emperor's work chaps!
@bishop takes king it won’t make a difference, if you really want to hurt them, sue them and if you lose the case, shoot them
Or you can be apart of the people who see that the CCP are controlling GW
I'm in the same boat now. I'm not sure if I even want to pirate the stuff anymore. I've reached a point where if a company decides to do insufferable bullshit, I just move on completely.
I've been with 40k since my first encounter with Dawn of War on my way to Afghanistan in 2007, but I've been ready for GW to finally drop the ball for a long time. I'm ready to look into this new hobby called being outside. I might start fishing.
@@uria3679 thinking the CCP control is insane calm down dude
i recommended ''the last church'' for a future bookclub, it really shows who the emperor was as a person and is philosophy
Also Malcador: First Lord of the Imperium is pretty neat.
Being somebody who followed atheist v. theist argumentation for years, many of the arguments put up by both sides were kind of shit. It shows that Graham wasn't familiar with this kind of dialogue, and the strength of that short story is that Graham really leaned into that aspect.
Uriah wasn't a formally trained theologian, but a guy who had a personal experience and found religion. Big E was being a polite condescending cunt who convinced himself that Uriah could be reasoned into embracing the Imperial Truth just through Facts and Logic™. It's only when he realizes that Uriah is going to need to actually see his vision and to build on does it get interesting, because even though he was the Emperor's first faithful, the early Imperium was a vision Uriah outright rejected.
I hate "The Last Church". I expected the Emperor to have better arguments against religion than that of a r/atheist moderator.
Master of Mankind's on that list as well.
But I'm a fanboy for that book, so I'm biased
Honestly that book is a bit overhyped.
I mean all it is just the Emperor bullying an old man for being religious- hell their “debat” wasn’t even that fun/well researched
“I think it was bad luck that the elder where there.”
Someone hasn’t read Lord of the night. (An amazing book btw)
One character: hound. That’s all I’m going to say.
mistress.. mistress
The Infinite and the Divine is still my favorite 40k book by a fair bit
why is there no septimus fan art?
If you're ever on a Grey Knight kick I recommend "Grey knights" by Ben Counter, really good story full of action as well as a large amount of mystery full twists and turns
Gargatuloth... (or something like that)
Y'all forgot about the Void-born.
Ave Dominus Scrote
DK participation on 1000% today boi’s 🔥 🔥 🔥 The man is firing on all cylinders and I’m Here for it!
IF YOU ARE GOING TO DO CAIN NOVELS:
Read the actual book for Amberley Vail’s footnotes. They make the series.
Especially the audiobooks.
Every time I heard "claw" I just kept picturing a Zoidberg marine just shouting "I challenge you to claw-plach!" 😅
Just finished listening. I'm absolutely in love with the Night Lords now. Actually considering building an army. Appreciate y'all for recommending it
Opening half of the chapters with badass quotes from Malcharion was such a brilliant setup. The reveal that he was put into a dreadnought AND Talos planned on awakening him was crazy exciting.
You guys have influenced me to buy 10 Black Library books since I found the podcast. I have fallen in love with just about every faction you have talked about. I'm starting to collect more models just to paint up the great characters and units you have introduced me to. Heck, I made a World Eaters kill team because of the episode about Angron. Love this nerdery.
Don't you ever disrespect Uzaz he is our beautiful baby boy
Feels bad man.
I still cry
*Nonspecific spoiler*
Yeah he probably had the most depressing ending
Pandorax was one of my favorites. Should totally do that.
Glad to see more people appreciate that book!
You guys are my only source of fun warhammer content now besides baldimorts guide to warhammer..... I’m sad, but glad you guys are still here!
I would recommend the Eisenhorn series, the Ciaphas Cain series, and the first heretic from the horus heresy is AMAZING. The same author who wrote the night lords wrote it, and its what made me start to like the word bearers. Gaunts ghosts also only gets better after the first book.
Overall I really enjoyed Soul Hunter, but PLEASE do Lords of Silence in the future
Weird, I don't remember Xarl having committed murder and rape at 12 in Soul Hunter.
He *did* murder a man, but that was it as for listed crimes.
I'm saying it's weird because those were the two crimes Dal Karus was mentioned to've committed in Blood Reaver. 'A murderer at 12, and a rapist 3 years later, and yet he's the one who talks of honor.' to quote Cyrion.
On another subject, I can't help but feel that Septimus looks like Cyrus from Dawn of War 2; every time I read his lines, that same gravely edgelord voice keeps coming back up.
The Night Lords Omnibus was a great read
I hope they read Prince of Crows, Sevatar's book.
Opinion
The special episodes like book club should use the orchestral intro
Hey DK idk if youll see this but I'd like to point out. Chaos will unite in times where their existence is threatened. Big E or as chOAS (tts reference) calls him "Anathema", His crusade was deemed a threat to chaos (As that was kind of Big E's intent) and not only his intent but he had the capability of fully doing so. So they put their chips together to sabotage that, after the emperor was incapacitated and Horus was given the psyker ban hammer the infighting began almost immediately
Talking about the avatars of the Ruinous Powers and didn't even talk about how the avatar for Nurgle just noped-the-@#$%-out of trying.
The bit was great. Talos turns to his nurglified avatar, and it literally gives him a "Listen, I got nothing you want, and youre way too pro-active for our club, so I'mma grab my shit, and you can have fun talking to the next dude." Screed.
This series made me a fan, bought all 3 and binged over 4 days
I just want to say your schedule is dope because the channel page has three straight lines of "five podcasts/shorts then a book club" and that is hella satisfying to see in a yt channel these days. Nostalgic..
Y'all should check out Valedor for a future book club episode. Really fun read if you want to know more about the craftworlds, specifically Biel-tan and Iyanden. It's also probably the only book where Eldar don't look like absolute mooks (I'm looking at you Gav Thorpe). Our poor boy the Avatar of Khaine finally gets to fight without being dumpstered by a named space marine to make them look cool.
I am waiting for CI-CI-CIPHАЅ CAIN! HERO OF THE IMPERIUM!
Loved this book, Cyrion and Talos are my favorite. Started Blood Reaver a couple nights ago, I’m about 5 hours in
Xarl was a murderer, he loves killing. It’s implied that he was hot though. Talo’s mother said “Xarl was born to break hearts” a part of that is he was a pretty boy sadist, that everyone expected to join the legion.
Ave Dominus Nox, Brothers.
Ahhh the broken Latin of warhammer lmao
43:22 some chaos dreadnaughts are pre heresy.... so they existed before chaos got to their legion and are still technically loyal... but are tortured and forced to fight for chaos.
Bowden sounds like he writes like the author of Overlord, Kugane Maruyama
Ave Dominus Nox, we have come for your Little Guys
Hey Bricky. Vulkan is DEAD DEAD. He was stabbed by a anti-perpetual spear in the book Unremembered Empire, and recovering from this "cures" his perpetualism, and the book where he dies fighting a waaagh has an interesting blurb on the back about how you'll discover the true fate of a primarch. There is no ambiguity, Vulkan is dead as hell, never coming back.
Hmmmm..... idk man... ;)
There’s some conflicting info on that lore actually. Not enough to disprove Vulkan is dead though since a lot of the “conflicting info” is of questionable canonicity.
In my own opinion, there is just enough to prove Vulkan might still be able to return.
But Vulcan Lives though
Stomp stomp
1:56 Now thats what we call in the industry Foreshadowing.
Maybe you should do a book club on the all guardsmen party 😠
Maybe ask nicely? Honey works better than vinegar in these situations my man.
@@jakejutras5420 Mate, don't take it seriously. I'm teasing them for getting hammered when they tried to read AGP
Man really moved on from warframe, glad to see it, glad to see this channel doing so well
Just finished the book (I know I’m late lol) but one of my favorite “comedic” parts of this book including the Xarl grabbing the gunnery officer scene is the epilogue. Where it explains how the mortal crew was also devastated not only by the Blood Angel attack but by rival fucking gangs aboard the CoB that thought it was a golden opportunity to wage gang war upon the CoB being boarded by Astartes
He was the sole hunter who hunted the soul hunter because in his soul he was a hunter
Viris colratha dath sethicara tesh dasovallian. Solruthis veh za jasz!
Because of you I've picked the omnibus with the complete trilogy. Thank you and may the emperor bless this podcast!
The voice acting was excellent and since you mentioned the Metro games, the voice actor that does this, voices at least first metro book (the games are based on books and the writer is a gamer), listened to it somewhat shortly before listening to this book, it was a nice surprise
I've just gotten to book 3 of this series, I can't wait to see dk's reactions to some of the things that happen in book two and three, the story just keeps getting better!
DK: "But man when Talos get his claws in her."
😏
Just read the entire 3 books in 2 days, it was ridiculously addictive
Man I cant wait for their raven guard episode
I also read the part describing why Talos was called Soul Hunter the way DK did. The others only came for her after realizing she had looted the ring and crown. "...And then the ultimate hypocrisy, they demanded the entire legion do now, in greed, what they had been cursing Talos for attempting in the name of vengeance." and then its explained Talos doesn't care about the transgressions of her stealing relics, because the b**** killed their father.
Just finished this novel and it was just as good as you guys made it out to be!! Super excited to start the 2nd novel tomorrow
Love the Red Letter Media background art guys :) great job Shy!
Hey guys, maybe you would like to read Peter fehervari’s Requiem Infernal. It is a great warhammer/horror book with interesting characters from the adepta sororitas and imperial guard on it. I think it represents the nature of chaos in 40K in a really interesting and mindfucky way. It would be cool to see you do a video on it!!
This is the first warhammer book I've ever bought and this podcast is the reason for it.
I think the soul that talos is hunting is that of the legion.
God youtuber creators referencing each other is what I live and breath for
this was an cool thing cause read all three night hunters of adb and loved them so could follow along and remember the events and cool bits of it was suprise to think I could not read soulhunter again knowing hound and the flayer arent in it just makes me feel sad but gonna be fun to hear you discussion further alon of blood reaver and void hunter
This show could never be the same without Shy
These guys should talk about the Months of Shame. Like and forward to shy, bricky, and dk if you agree.
If DK still has even a moderate interest in the AdMech, PLEASE read Mechanicum, it's such a fantastic book and the Audible narration is some of the best in any 40k series.
YA GITZ DO BRUTAL KUNNIN NEXT
I never had such a joyous moment at the end of Soul Hunter when Malcharion 1v1s a Blood Angel Dreadnought that he fought in the past and said “I already killed him once” while having his helmet in display.
HERO OF THE IMPERIUM
Honestly I kind of appreciate the spoilers because they give me an idea of whether to read it or not
Void shields on a death row penal colony... like the alcohol swab before a lethal injection 😅
I would love to see betrayer done for the book club
Im really hoping for when he does corvus corax
A good book idea would be Valdor Birth of the Imperium. Really enjoying that one so far.
Re-View set looks good!
lmao ye we specifically asked the artist to make it look like review set
@@Adeptusridiculous Hey you got my support, I love both shows and now you two are tied together. Now we just need to get Bricky on BotW!
I just want to say thank you for getting me back into reading. I enjoyed the Infinite and Divine it was a great book but personally I love guardsmen and ended up reading all of Gaunts Ghosts in a month and a half. I personally didnt think Soul Hunter was the best and wasnt gonna read the other two but now ill check them out since yall recommend them
I reccomend "The devastation of Baal". I'm no Blood angel or dante fan but it's a good, action packed book
@@MilitaryStyx ill definitely add it to my list. I was told to read the Ciaphus Cain series a few months ago and conveniently they sound like they are gonna read at least the first one soon.
I'd like to recommend Storm of Iron or Horus Rising!
Love me some night lords.
"I heard bolter fire"