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Led by their primarchs, the Word Bearers and World Eaters Legions ravage the realm of Ultramar
The Shadow Crusade has begun. While the Ultramarines reel from Kor Phaeron’s surprise attack on Calth, Lorgar and the rest of the Word Bearers strike deep into Ultramar. Their unlikely allies, Angron and the World Eaters, continue to ravage each new system they come across - upon the garrison planet of Armatura, this relentless savagery may finally prove to be their undoing. Worlds will burn, Legions will clash and a primarch will fall.
The worst death for Erebus would be by the hand of a nobody, killed by a person whitout a great destiny in a place that has no meaning or importance.
That would be so satisfying to read tho
Falls down stairs, breaks neck
@@grimmnekrokvlt gets stepped in by a titan. Or gets hit with artillery
Steps on a land mine from a war centuries ago. A pointless, stupid way to go.
Some no-name krieger clubs him upside the head with a live AT grenade 😂
Erebus, bleeding on the floor: "I Kharn't believe this"
You mean "I kharnt believe you've done this"
I kharnt die here
... Goddammit Nappa.
"It feels like i've been smacked in the face by 30.000 Warhammers..."
@@SamueL-td7fb "I guess we were ALL The Horus Heresy all along!"
I like Angron's voice in the book. He is described as having constant nose bleeds as the nails and his physiology fight, so it would make sense that he sounds as if he is fighting a cold, since he probably has blood going down his throat all the time
On a side not, daemons like to make fun of Erebus because he is so self absorbed despite never having actually gotten the favor of the gods
Lol
There's a sort of popular quote by the director of Dark Souls describing how he wanted each enemy in the game to elicit this sense that you're not fighting them at their peak, you're fighting them after they've plummeted from grace. Between Angron shoulder-pressing a Titan and Kharn talking to Argel Tal about how broken of a primarch he is, it's so interesting to think about what he could've been if he was just given the chance to be himself
Let's be real, Magnus in our head sounds like how he does in TTS
No pathetic box can hold me!
So does Dorn.
Erebus should just be captured by Trazyn, for historical purposes and reference on his Horus Heresy section.
And there's just a plaque that says "Historical lowpoint in douchebaggery"
@@Gormathius More ironic to keep some of his titles 'The Hand of Fate' or 'The Architect of Heresy' on the plaque, in regards he would be stuck for eternity to the whims of another than himself.
That diorama is just Erebus falling down a very long flight of stairs after being pushed by a smug looking guardsman while marines from every single loyalist chapter laugh and point at him. The plaque reads: “Erebus, Dark Apostle of the Word Bearers and self-proclaimed Hand of Fate. Visitors are encouraged to laugh at his unfortunate predicament.”
@@judeblack4360 That's a lot of stairs, and big ones too. Also the guardsman has the Anya smirk on his face.
@@judeblack4360 Also Erebus would be picking his nose
Betrayer? More like “Yo Kharn, you good bro”
“No Argel-Tal, I am not.”
Fun fact Jonathan Keeble voiced malekith in elden ring.
FUCKING WHAT
I think the thing that Lotara Sarrin memes don't remember or translate very well is that she was a noblewoman before embracing the freedom that the imperial navy gave her. She's not aggressive, bloodthirsty bad bitch all the time. She's perfectly capable of politeness, treats her bridge crew fairly kindly and even finds a way of talking some info out of the mechanicus.
But Emperor/Khorne/Tzeentch/Nurgle/Slaanesh help you if you scratch her ship’s hangar.
@@mapleflag6518none of them would help you if you did that. They're not that stupid.
She's an absolute Momm--*BONK* OUCH great character I mean
Shy should clip DK saying “he pegged Angron” just in case y’know
I love how the World Eaters aren't even surprised that Erebus teleported away. They just go "Ew. What a prick.".
So the thing about Angron’s voice.
He doesn’t have a deep voice, like the other Primarchs. His sinuses are either constantly blocked or so scarred up that they’re just useless. The more the nails take, the more he ends up being a mouth breather. He’s not meant to sound high and reedy, but he’s got a very nasally voice because his brains are leaking out through his nostrils.
If I had a nickel for every time Angron had to dig his way out of a massive pile of rubble due to having a building/ mountain dropped on him, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice.
Ah AH! Not twice, twice so FAR
"Armatura" in Poland means plumbing and bathroom equipment mainly: pipes, bathtubs, sinks, showers, toilets ect.
When I read "Betrayer", my first thought was: "Wait, so Imperium had an entire world dedicated to production of toilets? No way!"
Oh shit!
The probably do have such a world. And nurgle either loves or hates ut
Y’all NEED to read “Know No Fear” makes Guilliman’s appearance and the entire final act so much more epic.
Lotara playing cards with a contemptor dreadnought will forever be my favorite memory of this book
Who won?
@@mapleflag6518 I dont think they said!
@@GladiatorBeastB DAMMIT GW!!!
@@mapleflag6518 iirc the dreadnought, Lhorke got annoyed by not being able to hold the cards and didn't like having some other dude hold them for him, so they stopped
@@TheOnlyRealIRONicMAN Lotara should have ordered him to keep playing
Pretty sure "Fuck Erebus!" is the fourth most popular phrase in 40K, right after Blood for the Blood God, Heresy, and WAAAAAAGHH!
It definitly is pretty high, I think there might be some more popular ones (Emperor Protects or Blam! are up there).
Also “FOR THE EMPEROR!!!”
What about: "Happy Gas mask Noises"?
5:37 TTS has ruined me in that regard: I simply _cannot_ imagine Magnus with any voice other than Zegram's portrayal.
It's kind of weird how the pharaoh of magic space Egypt now has an Australian accent in the head canon of so many fans.
@@Yozzy22 That’s Australian!?
@@mapleflag6518 Space Australian* mate no need to be racist.
@@mapleflag6518 I think it was suppose to be British or something. But everyone kept saying it sounded more Australian.
Hear me out here... Guilliman shouldn't win a Primarch fight. He's a logistics guy. He builds supply lines, sets up stable resource streams and efficient recruiting. He plans ahead and innovates.
The Primarch fights he should win would be him crushing his brother under a wave of Ultramarines and guard.
Yeah its good idea. In this case guilliman wont be a mary sue, and its more interesting when character win not by strength but with cunning
@@Noone-we9vb i mean the logistics guy could make a really good case for dropping an entire space ship of explosives on another primarch
@@Noone-we9vb just to be clear, I don't think he's anywhere close to a Mary Sue. 40k Guilliman is a troubled man. Everything that he fought for it in ruins. His dream, his father's dream, is dead. His closest brothers are all gone, whether they be turned traitor or taken by the progress of time. He is fighting for an Imperium that would make his father sneer in disgust. He has to play politician, god incarnate, strategist, logistician and civil engineer. Even a Primarch can't be everywhere and do everything at once. He is not equipped to handle this. And he knows it.
Didn't he kill Alpharius?
I mean this checks out with what we see. Only Primarch fights he's won have been thanks to other bailing him out. Magnus was kicking his ass until a bunch of Sisters of Silence showed up. And he was getting wrecked by Mortarian until daddy Emps possessed his body to beat the shit out of Morty for him.
i love how angron INSISTS on trolling Argel Tal with "Creature....."
you can almost feel Tal and Kharn both cringe every time he says it.
PS- Delvarus earned his ass whoopin that night in the pits, and he took it like a G. anybody who had issue with him, stepped up and got a piece. That's laudable after what he caused by running off to chase glory on the ground.
It wasn't even anyone having an issue with him. His exact words are "Any who would make _____ a liar, step forth!" He didn't have an issue with being killed, he had an issue with someone who would break his brother's word.
@@canyouwriteanythinghere again, he presented himself for receipts, and MANY of his legion brothers tried to issue one.... but Delvarus is pit champion for a reason, and it's not his rank.
Unrelated 40k Theory: The mystery behind Krieg's birthing process the Vitae Womb is largely a "cloning" sort of tech. And as a Patriarch is to his Space Marines, Colonel Jurten is to the Death Korps. Where as other similar processes on other planets use different genetics for its created people, Krieg's people are all the offspring of Jurten. This is because after the betrayal against him by his senior officers and he decided to literally say, "Fine, I'll do it myself." Also if I remember correctly every time, in official cannon, they describe the features of a Krieg soldier without it's gasmask on, they have the same color hair and eyes.
In canon, Jurten was against creating Vitae Womb to the last. Only after his death it was created
@@user-jy2ys4ju6c I believe the Mechanicus guy went ‘who else to continue the work but you?’
@@user-jy2ys4ju6c That's Colonel Jurten you heretic, and he was also against nuking the planet until he wasn't. Anything for the God Emperor, at all costs.
He's out of line but he's right.
>the inquisition interrogation
>the foreign tech preist who was always two step ehead and had radical solution fro Jurten problem
I have a tin foil hat theory that Inquisition knew about Krieg going rebel and they just wanted tested if its possible to use nuclear weapons on hive cities. Short answer; it worked but not even Empire is willing to do it again
I really liked Angron's Voice here.
It really captures his super twitchy completely broken personality. Especially with how he is portrayed in this book, Argel tal says he is "no primarch" he is referred as a broken god. So many of his scenes are him losing control and powerlessly lashing out.
It's like an Angry Chihuahua in the body of a Demigod.
Imo Angron shouldn't sound like a tough man in pain, he should sound like a pained man pretending to be tough
I agree, he sounds very much like a tortured soul
Of course he's will sound nasely he's had a nose bleed for 100 years
When he told Argel Tal and Kharne to leave the last ultramarine for him to brutalize his voice was downright menacing
Spoilers for Echoes of Eternity
Lotara is indeed one with the ship fused from the waist down, black claws click clacking on her throne, saw like predator teeth, grey-white flesh, deep set black pupils, can't remember if she had a nose or not but she's described as being vampiric in appearance, reminds me of a carcharadon. She's also haunted by wraiths of herself and her crew created by the conquerors machine spirit.
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NOOOOO
Jonathan Keeble is by far one of the best narrators anyone can get. Especially when he plays night lords. He just has this ability to bring characters to life and make the story real.
My favorite part was when Kharn screamed "It's betrayin' time!"
And betrayed all over everyone
You need to do Angron Slave of Nucera. It’s his origin story for him and the nails.
Said it before and I'm going to say it again; when the artist was given the request for Erebus the concept they were given _had_ to have been something along the lines of "Draw that trollface from rage comics but make it look like an Astartes." It would amuse me greatly if Kharn met Erebus in the 40k era and in a moment of lucidity remembered what the fucker did, that he escaped last time and that vengeance is overdue and then, as Kharn has Erebus at his mercy, the Dark Gods abandon Erebus at the last minute in an epic "you reap what you sow" moment ten thousand years in the making.
It'd be really cool if Kharn like, dropped out of a bloodlusted frenzy when he re-encounters Erebus.
And he just
Goes into a deep, conscious, thoughtful, hate.
He's not going to kill Erebus because of Khorne, or the Butcher's Nails. He hates Erebus enough to push those aside and make it purely personal.
So Lhorke didn’t cut of Lorgar’s hand, he knocked aside his crozius and Lorgar’s hand got pulped by a bolt shell. I think the reason he doesn’t have an augmetic is he did the same ritual that he did after almost getting melted by that one titan’s plasma.
Cyrene last appeared in the SoT book Warhawk, her, John Gramaticus, Ollanius Pius, Leetu, one of if not the original space marines and Erdas' protector and 'I am Alpharius' were traveling to meet the emperor.
I'm just hyped that Eisenhorn is happening soon. His and Ravenor's series are my absolute favorites in Warhammer.
Yeah! I just read all 4 of the Eisenhorn books this summer and am now working on the second Bequin one!
@@jeremychurch4732 did you skip the ravenor ones? Because that would be a shame and kinda confusing at times I suppose 😅
@@Agerholm2650 especially when Ravenor is better in certain aspects than Eisenhorn is
I'd definitely say the voice actors that The Amber King got for Kharn, Angron and Magnus in his videos hit better than this one, but the writing was great all the same. Amber King's Kharn VA really sounds like I imagined even before he went mad, and his Magnus had an air of old dignity in his voice, especially when he talked with jaghatai on prospero
The Amber King's VA that he usually used for Kharn is ABORDER PRINCE. He has a 40k CZcams channel, so check him out.
@@SMScorx89 now that fucking explains it - ABP has a fantastically gravelly voice. Like someone needs to give that man a throat lozenge or ten
Like DK I've never really liked the Ultramarines but I have to say Know No Fear and Betrayer really made me respect them more. I really recommend Know No Fear for the next heresy book. You won't regret it. Ultramarines get spanked for most of the book. There's a really cool interaction between Guilleman and Lorgar where Gman rages and Lorgar dunks on him. Really adds to their confrontation in Betrayer. Also adds a cool character that breaks the mold of the "goody two shoes" Ultramarine. Great read.
I will never unsee Lorgar as being played by Reverend Lovejoy.
I'm pretty sure the Blessed Lady and the Trisagion aren't gloriana-class, they're some sort of even bigger, special ship type
I Believe they are called "Abyss-Class Battleships"
I'm glad Bricky is coming to the realization on what an awful and evil person Lorgar is. something people often miss is that Lorgar never really worshipped the emperor he worshipped the emperors strength because to be that powerful you must be divine and once he was rejected he easily turned to chaos because of their power he didn't need Kor Pharon or Erebus and was fully aware of the manipulation going on he was always that twisted guy literally tells Erebus and Kor Pharon to literally fuck off because he had no use for them when everything was said and done.
Umm.. he literally questioned his allegiance to chaos even in istvan, he went to the eye because after the censure, he started receiving visions of the gods similarly to how he received visions of the emperor, and being the truth seeker that he is, he decided to investigate it.
Ok so clearing up the confusion. The main world eater librarian shot lorgar's hand off, and Lhorke went to beat lorgar up and actually did a very good job at it
the Sirgalla crew was odd because how good they were yet felt added on top.
To me, what they, and the stuff with the tech priests and Lotara and her crew, was showing how even this deep in the heresy, they were still a crew. they werent frothing chaos worshipers, they were doing their job and their duty as they saw it.
A last look at the "normal" people of the crew before it all well and truly sunk into chaos and hell.
How is Kor Pareon not getting his share of hate. Between him and Erebus whispering of the "old faith that they had never abandoned" in Lorgars ear after Monarchia they share 50/50 in conspiracy.
The worst death for Erebus would be at the hand of Lorgar.
If Guilliman has ultra-depression, then Angron has a step or 2 above that.
Having just finished betrayer, I concur that kharne beating 6 shades of bodily fluids out of erebus was very satisfying.
Erebus lost his hand when Kharn chopped it off, then proceeded to backhand him across the arena telling him to "get UP"
6 packs of warhounds. 5 warhounds each, 30 total. By the time they were able to immobilize it it had killed 18 of them.
Also the ship that Argel Tal, the Gal Vorbak and Ingethel go into the eye of terror in The First Heretic is called Orfeos' Lament and in this book Captain Orfeo cries out in agonizing pain as Angron brutally murders him. Nice job ADB
I think the higher Angron voice sort of works if you consider that Angron was built to be a healer, not a warrior.
Yeah, he was suppose to be an empath not a berserker.
I think that Angron would have a somewhat tenor or alto voice. Not full on baritone deep.
Also nearly perpetual nosebleeds whenever angry enough and as well as that scream he's canonically said to have let out in his Primarch book, silly as that is, added together the voice fits, even retroactively.
I am a Lion El'Jonson fanboy but one of my FAVORITE parts of the book was the description of Russ during the Night of the Wolf.
When the dreadnaught says that he'd never felt more dead than when he looked at the vitality and wildness of Russ I felt so bad for him.
Erebus is the micah bell of warhammer 40k
Poor Angron, all he ever wanted is to die fighting in a battlefield, what do you guys think? 😔
Yeah, I wanted him to die and finally be in peace with his brothers and sisters
In the book, he agrees with Lorgar and ALLOWS Lorgar to turn him into a Daemon Primarch.
There's a big conversation between them about what his new form will be.
One thing about angron’s tragedy
His special power was apparently to soothe and calm people
During the uprising with the gladiators he seen calm the ptsd of the younger gladiators so they could sleep
Angrons throne room scene is one of the most powerful and moving scenes ive ever scene
I like Erebus because he looked at the life he was born into, a Galaxy where choice is almost non-existant, and said "Fuck THAT!". He took one look at the superhuman Demigods that were there to direct his existence and said "Oh hell no!". And then he brought them down. He forged his own path and wasn't daunted by the power of the Primarchs. He manipulated them and got them to destroy each other. He's a complete piece of shit, but he's a piece of shit on his own terms.
Also he is often made fun of by daemons
The way the whole "Get up." Was written, 1 to 1 reminded me of when inmate who's actually hard puts the loudmouth new blood in his place.
Fucking throws 3 hammer punches to his jaw, bites off a God damned 2 fingers and slams his forehead into the bottom bunk railing. He looks at him, crying snot and blood... "Get up."
New Blood - *visible confusion*
Old Blood - "Get up. Come on, bitch, I ain't done!"
"Get up."
Kharn is the fucking G.o.a.t, man.
If Angron on the juice can stop a Warhound's foot, just imagine what Vulkan can do when he's serious
Didn't he go tow to tow with the beast?
@@Ashtor1337 he KILLED the beast. Well, he sacrificed himself, but still. He managed to hold his own for a while
Also. I think the Lionel heresy had vulkan turned into a MASSIVE daemon dragon
I liked Cyrene bring brought back avd even as a perpetual.
Normally I hate that trope too, but it was undoing a paint-by-numbers fridge-stuffing. It's different and far worse when a heroic sacrifice is undone.
It is even better that she was NOT brainwashed/controlled either. That would be a whole other trite cliche. The only way is if she came to her senses after and had to live with the guilt.
When i hear Jonathan keeble, all i ever hear is sevatar, he's perfect for night lord characters cause he does "scum" very well
For world eater characters though i think the best voices for each of them was in the "butcher's nails" audio drama. Especially lotara sarrin, you can hear the abs
But angron in that audio drama was perfect, his voice was deep and gravelly but you could hear the pain
The furious abyss and Blessed lady weren't gloriana class. They're specially made 'Abyss class' that trump the Gloriana class easily. There's a HH book about some Ultra Marines hunting one down, think it was called 'Battle for the Abyss'
Battle of the Abyss is the book yes, comes right after Legion. Honestly not that good, main gripe is that the WOrd Bearers in it are cartoonishly evil even by 40K standards. They're so powerful that it makes sense Lorgar was gonna make one of the ships his new flagship and give the Fidelitas Lex to Argel Tal.
40:30 Those were 2 Abyss Class battleships. There were 3 of these massive warships constructed by Lorgar during the time he was preparing to betray the Emperor, they are absolutely massive and one of them could go up against the Phalanx, they dwarf Glorianna class Warships. The first one appears in the battle for the abyss novel and is destroyed over Macragge, these 2 ships are and absolute threat.
Magnus will always sound like a Texan trying to be English coming out Australian to me.
Same
Honestly I kinda want Erebus to be killed by something very insignificant, like being injured and then torn apart by a herd of grots and snotlings or hungry human peasants from an underhive. I think that would be a very fitting ending for someone like him.
I would love to see Erebus just get stepped on by a titan and it not even noticing
Just make it a random guardsman, hell, even a conscript! The sheer insult of it would be exquisite!
I want someone to rip out his tongue before summoning Raum to have some fun with him.
A faulty machine breaking or something while he's preaching on a hive world
Insignificant, random, stupid, gloryless, pathetic
Fitting death for erebus
Even better, make him die to an Ork gretchin getting a lucky shot off or something
Petition(s) for next book club:
-Eisenhorn (one of the most iconic 40k books imo)
-Storm of Iron (featuring the rise of everyones favourite Iron Warrior, Honsou)
Also, for any reddit users, I feel like that poster would be very approved by Vezimira....
I'll agree with Eisenhorn, but I really feel that Magos in particular would be a great episode for that series. I'd also love them to take a look at the Bequin books because they are a very different sort of perspective and I loved the way she looks at the world.
@@Gitskreig both of those are good as well, but I don't think one would appreciate them as much without the context from having read the other trilogies first. I'd prefer them to start with Xenos (although if you're gonna read Eisenhorn you really should do all 3 books of the OG trilogy)
Blessed Lady aren’t Gloriana class, they’re Abbysal class or something like that, I recall because they make even Gloriana ships look small
iirc Lorke did cut off Logar's hand but Logar used the warp to reattached it after the fight, so it looked like it never happened.
The last bit was noted by Kharn on his final meeting with Logar.
UMMMMMM ACKSHUALLY
The Blessed Lady isn’t a Gloriana-class battleship. It’s bigger.
The Dark Mechanicum built 3 special battleships for the Word Bearers that, while smaller than the Phalanx (which is a Ramilles-class Star fort that was retrofitted with engines) were larger than any other Imperial Vessel ever made.
They are later classed “Abyss” class Battleships by the Imperium after the first one named the “Furious Abyss”
The Conqueror *is* a Gloriana-class Battleship.
All Abyss-class battleships were destroyed during the Heresy, there are still a couple Gloriana-class vessels around (Conqueror, Macragge’s Honour, Terminus Est, Vengeful Spirit, and Red Tear are all still active)
Every Word Bearers drop pod during the Horus heresy blared pumped up kicks on the descent
Iirc they reason the nails also effect angron the worst other than his primarch healing is because all primarchs are innately psychic which makes a feedback loop in the nails
Along with angrons nails not being installed properly
Chosen of Khorne had a great voice for Khârn
what if they slowly pull out the nails over a few months or years so that angron heals the gaps as the nails can slowly be unlinched
Gotta say, my take on Lorgar is very different from you guys, and I wonder how much of that is because I read the books rather than listen to the audio version.
Can't wait until they get to "Get Up."
Great book & really fun episode! I do agree about the titan crew, fun but should have been in another book & I really want ADB to do a bit more of a prequel with Captain Sariin (sp?) as she was wonderful to see in the story.
As for voices & Magnus I still think the VA who played him in Emperor's text to speech just nailed it with a sarcastic British librarian. I think that someone should record a bit of audio from episode 13 of text to speech for DK to hear his voice. Some of the annoying ultramarine voices in that series sound great too (also not a fan of them though Robot Girlyman does eventually kick a lot of butt in the Dark Imperium trilogy).
I like eribus, he's self serving and doesn't grovel for the emperor or the primarchs and he's always up to something. I was sad when he got argy killed but it's what tips kharn over to khorne. He will continue to get close to scorpions and get stung and will eventually die but he would probably be fine with it in the end and pry make another mess while he's at it.
I'm surprised in all this time, they didn't spend an entire 30 minutes talking about Lotara Sarrin.
Dude, she deserves it. She got dealt a winning hand and the most bitter gut check in Echoes of Eternity.
Legit the only 40K book to make me cry ToT
It's real fun seeing Bricky do kinda a 180 on Perturabo and Lorgar. Lorgar talks shit but can't back it up, while Perty for all his faults puts his money where his mouth is.
Kharn is always described as being soft spoken, and is almost always shown as some kind of slavic accent in all teh audio stuff :) Hell even in the new Codex they say Kharn is famous for being unsettlingly calm out of the fray
Wow, how can you not just love Lorgar after reading Betrayer?
Regarding Lorgar's ships I have to call bullshit on them. Because in Battle for the Abyss, they built the happily named Furious Abyss which was on it's way to Calth but was destroyed thanks to a group of Ultramarines, loyalist World Eaters, Space Wolves and some Thousand Sons.
Now, when the ship is finished, they blow up the entire forgeworld that it was built on, not to mention it was stated to have taken several decades to build. I can believe the Empirium might've missed losing 1 world, because, you know, A MILLION WORLDS! And sure, even Mars might've overlooked it. But I very much fucking doubt 3 whole forge worlds blowing the fuck up would’ve gone unnoticed, even if they were smaller ones!
It took decades to build in secret, letting the world it was built on keep up their normal production rates to hide the fact that they were building a non-Emperor-approved super-weapon. After the first one was built up enough to have a blueprint to give to some forge worlds that were loyal to Horus, the Warmaster could have covered for their sudden drop in production while they rushed to complete the other Abyss class ships, then swept their destruction under the rug with the general chaos of the Heresy breaking out.
Im watching with earbuds in i can hear the rain on one of your windows. Please take your pop filters off in the new episodes it makes the book clubs so much more ambient
If you want to hate Erebus more, read the Siege of Terra books. Won’t spoil it but he does something objectively way worse than killing Argel Tal.
Makes sense for angrons voice i think. Cause if he's always angry and in pain when you're in pain you do kinda screech your voice. So him being constantly angry and in pain his vocal cords would be shredded so I think the voice suits him.
Npt only that but he has been bleeding into the back of his nasal cavities non stop for centuries
I think it would be really cool if you guys made a video about Miriael Sabathiel and The sisters of the night.
READ TITANICUS. It is one of the best explorations of the Mechanicus I can think of.
I fully agree with how Angrons voice comes off but he dose breath through his mouth due to his nasal passage constantly being clogged with blood so it kinda makes sense hes so nasally. Still not what I thought he would sound like.
What’s funny about this book is when you read the part where angron ducking lifts and holds back a warlord titan foot is wild and you think this is nuts and that he’s so powerful. Then you remember magnus one shotting a ancient one eldar titan and sanguinious flying though a even bigger titan and ripping the main pilot out of place shutting it down and destroying the whole thing in place.
Primarchs really are just the Avengers.
BRO TRIP 30.000 IS ABOUT TO BEGIN
I totally agree that this book helped me like the ultramarines more but the one that really sealed the deal for me is unremembered empire. Id also love to hear you guys cover assassinorum kingmaker. It became my fav instantly
It was so very satisfying having Kharn kick the shit out of the slippery bastard. I’m surprised there isn’t a set of rules if Kharn faces off against him where he does more damage and if the snake is fighting Kharn he has the ability to teleport once per game if facing the world eater captain
They are not Gloriana, but abyss class. And they are not second to the phalanx, but each its rival
32:27 Average Conversation About Erebus:
Most Respectful Conversation about Erebus:
Tonite on Ridiculous Gear: Bricky acts a little Eresus about Erebus, DK watches a bunch of Ultramarines die viva Lorgar and Angron and Shy steals Gorechild to use against any guest that steers off topic
Eldar in trenches against Chaos: dont worry! i hear our brothers are bringing fort Khaine!
Kharn: Lol, lmao
actually i think the trisagon, blessed lady and furious abyss are a unique class of ship custom built by the word bearers
Hot take: Erebus contributed more to the setting than sigismund!
Might be a bit of a stretch but Angron reminds a lot of Aatrox from league especially post his rework. It's quite intrtesting to see 2 of the most badass characters in their own setting being lost to madness
Someone really does need to be like yo Trayzn there's this Erebus guy still running around that sowed the very seeds of the Horus Heresy. He should get some major spotlight in that exhibit.
Lorgar had his hand blown off by one of the librarians trying to stop the ritual
Lorgar was amazing in this book
The speciel ships that the word bearers have arnt Glorian class they are a bigger class called Abyss class much bigger then the Glorians. just checked the wiki the Abyss Class ships are similar in size to the Phalanx. so significantly the larger then Glorian Class ships.
Read Assassinorum: Kingmaker after Day of Ascension! Xenos is a SERIES that sucks you in. I'm the 8th book in and I've been marathoning it.
Love Eisenhorn, Rav, and Bequin. But we need that fuckin Knight book!
Magnus can only sounds like the guy from TTS with a slight Australian hint
So the blessed lady and the trisagion are abyss class ships not Gloriana. They were a new type and large than Gloriana ships.