Sunni vs Hadith Rejecter ( Heated Debate ) Hajj and Arabic linguistics
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this somali guy is crazy
If you think that's crazy part 2 is insane
Hhhh it’s so entertaining
@Arian Ansari Irani we should trust random people who dont even speak arabic and disregard all the major ulama. Yes very englighting indeed. reminds me of the mu'tazila of the 8th century. they also went against the mainstream and died out soon very soon .
mercy the very translation you use comes from people who use Hadith to translate the verses. Without Hadith you would have no historical context to the Quran, like why were certain verses revealed and at what time
@@yusufislam9886 Mutazila was the most rational school of thought. They are the one who started Islamic Golden Age and it is your innovations (hadiths) after 200+ years of prophet's death that eventually caused fall of rationality, reason and science in Islam.
Being ignorance and narcissistic is a signs of the devil. May Allah swt protect us from those signs.
This guy is a shame too somali people!!
Relly is shame
@@user-ob9gu2zt4c The Shame ones are those who can not think for themself, at least he is seeking the truth for himself and not just been a sheep follower.
@@barawaupdate His not seeking truth. Seeking truth means learning the language you're discussing. Allah says Indeed we have sent down an Arabic Quran so that you may understand.” How can you debate arabic root words when you don't even know the language? His arrogance is clouding his judgement. May Allah guide him.
Barawa UpdateThis is God’s religion, you are stupid. You cannot come today and say I want to change some of it. This is not a religion, you understand, and the sheep is you and those like you
Barawa UpdateThink of your comfort, Hell awaits you, my beloved, and those like you
You can’t argue linguistics if you can’t speak the language it’s simple. Another fruitless interaction.
Bilal Ahmad He doesn’t understand it either.
@Bilal Ahmad he definitely doesn't understand basic nahw.
I'm looking for part 2...👀
Monday 9pm my g
@Ask A Moor hiwndonyoubexplain 3 164
At least Ahmed is questioning things and not blindly following these so-called islamic scholars who read only one book.
LOOL spoke for 10 minutes and hes saying he didnt make 1 point ?!?
that rejecter is annoying. when he knows the opponent is making a reasonable claim that rejecter acts like a child.
The problem with this very long debate is that no one realises that the Quran translation to any language is based on the help of the Hadith. If the translator tried his best only to translate word for word it won’t make any sense. Take the time to look it up (Quran translation is done with the Hadith explanation as well)
This guy said hajj is translated into argument or debate, and that pilgrimage doesn’t Make sense
But in surah 2 ayat 196 it’s says
And complete the Hajj and 'umrah for Allah . But if you are prevented, then [offer] what can be obtained with ease of sacrificial animals. And do not shave your heads until the sacrificial animal has reached its place of slaughter. And whoever among you is ill or has an ailment of the head [making shaving necessary must offer] a ransom of fasting [three days] or charity or sacrifice. And when you are secure, then whoever performs 'umrah [during the Hajj months] followed by Hajj [offers] what can be obtained with ease of sacrificial animals. And whoever cannot find [or afford such an animal] - then a fast of three days during Hajj and of seven when you have returned [home]. Those are ten complete [days]. This is for those whose family is not in the area of al-Masjid al-Haram. And fear Allah and know that Allah is severe in penalty.
So this is argument or debate
In surah 2 ayat 197
SAHIH INTERNATIONAL
Hajj is [during] well-known months, so whoever has made Hajj obligatory upon himself therein [by entering the state of ihram], there is [to be for him] no sexual relations and no disobedience and no disputing during Hajj. And whatever good you do - Allah knows it. And take provisions, but indeed, the best provision is fear of Allah . And fear Me, O you of understanding.
So again this is argument or debate? What is this guy on about
sharky H challenge and the challenge is the message which he was persecuted for in the 1st place which he came back to complete.
Umra is cultivation or promote which is what the messenger does.
That’s linguistically, contextually and according to the theme of the Quran consistent.
What do you have?
Ahmed next time just look at guy bro😂😂
I don’t follow hadiths but this guy is forgetting that Arabic words have different meaning and they are interchangeable according to the context.
Allah revealed the quran to our prophet, the sahabah accepted the message as complete and perfect. As much as they loved the prophet non of them ever wrote down his biography. Why?
1. Yes there were sahabas Abdullah bin Omar was ordered to write. The prophet told him to write anything he says.
2. People at that time mostly remembered words. For example no one had the collection of the Quran in the sahabas time. Only abu baker had the Quran stored in his house.
Correct bro- because anything outside the Quran is bidah. Hadith is bidah
Oh go get a life
@@Noname31ahow is Hadith bidah when Hadith is revelation ya hayawan. See an najm 3-4😂😂
Everytime the hadith rejector got shut down the moderators hairline went back further
When they can't have an argument without interrupting it means they don't have a point or the point they have is weak. Its shows their insecurity.
Exactly, the guy was ranting for 10 mins.
Because he was cut off for the first 4 mins lol 😂 he was basically debating a girl on tantrum- homeboy with hat just couldn’t accept to hear the facts. Dead dumb blind
Lol the guys debates for the sake of debating. How he speaks, behaves etc disprove that he doesn’t follow “only” Quran hahaha
Each party should be given 10minutes without interruption.
Actually Ahmed just want to make one single point regarding only people can understand arab can understand Quran, then he give example like the word "hajj" in the Quran.
5:05 😂🤣😅😭😭😭
I wish if we had same park in US to discuss islamic chapter
Megamind is an actual nut job, it's all bonkers mate.
Why are you wasting your time with this joke... Of course you need to know arabic if you want fully understand it... this guy is a joke wanted only some fame!
It's actually right, H-j-j is pointing towards debate if you follow the instructions given by Quran i.e this Quran is not poetry and multiple places it states not to take from poet's i.e we guide with Quran and we misguide , zhikr = zhikra sh'ir = Sh'ira
So if you use tafseer based on how poet's understand then you will get the wrong conclusions
When Ibrahim called his people to 'debate' regarding the idols they were worshipping they all came walking on foot
So Hajj= calling people to participate in rectification of prevalent issues within the societys
But obviously people have been hoodwinked and it's really sad that we have been wrong all this time and the translations have been infiltrated and everyone has gone down the rabbit hole
reminds me to trim my cats' claws
its not only that this baldy guy in a different path, even the jacket is adida... kekekekekek
SERIOUSLY AHMED NEEDS RUQYA. BRO THE GUY IS OUT OF REALITY
How do you know context just by reading rhe quranic text 😂😂😂😂😂
This and others who advocate Islam want to destroy Islam by challenging the Qur’an and hadith and interpreting the meanings of the Qur’an without what it means.
With due respect, this guy Ahmed is a fool
Has no respect & is completely ignorant & extremely arrogant.
May Allah swt guide us all on the right path
That Somali brother should stay at home of he cant handle listening in the park.. all he wants to do is talk.. doesnt like anyone cutting him off.. but in all his talks.. hes the one cutting everyone off
His not seeking truth. Seeking truth means learning the language you're discussing. Allah says Indeed we have sent down an Arabic Quran so that you may understand.” How can you debate arabic root words when you don't even know the language? His arrogance is clouding his judgement. May Allah guide him.
The Sunni guy knew he was in trouble.
How so? Dare to elaborate
Everyone is entitled to an opinion to put forth in a debate. Why do we somali's bash literally anyone who doesnt share the same beliefs as us.. Definitely telling of our community and a country as a whole.
WOWW homeboy in the hat was super lame. Couldn’t admit he had no facts. And gets all emotional. How pathetic- he had no logic no reason- and he kept interrupting because he knew he had nothing to stand on. This odd their tactic. Get emotional. Scream. Divert. Slander. May Allah God him - and shout out to brother Ahmed for spread Allahs word !
that's no moderator LOL
Ye enna venna nadakattum naan
Sandhosama irrupe
Usuru irruku verenna venum
Ullasaama irrupen
Enna venna nadakattum naan
Sandhosama irrupe
Usuru irruku verenna venum
Ullasaama irrupen
Edha punchah
Pottu udu maapla
Enakku rajaava naan
Enakku rajaava naan
Enakku rajaava naan vazhuren
Edhvum illaanalum aluren
Enakku rajaava naan vazhuren
Edhvum illaanalum aluren
Ye rakita rakita rakita
Rakita rakita rakita
Rakita rakita rakita
Rakita rakita rakita
we describe his behaviour "nacaas"
I used to be a Hadith rejector until I read the Torah after that everything made sense!!
So for my pals out there “TRUST “ and you will be safe!! DOUBT and you will be SHAMED!!
Why would reading the Torah make you change your mind? Genuine question
Lol well you’re lost again buddy so get back to the Quran. And why go backwards with Torah ? Didn’t Jesus compare the Torah to a dead fig true bearing no fruit. It’s useless now
This is exactly what Bani Israel did to torah
@2:21 let me moderate. Nice..🤣🤣
So u need to look at someone u debating with.🤔🤣. Ahmed got common sense bombs 4 yrl
Why cant you just talk normally without shouting?
i laughed so much. this ahmed guy is so funny
Hadith could not be all rejected, u need the Hadith, but also it should not be accept that sahi Hadith is 100% true without any contradiction, we need to stop doing that, and say Hadith is important but we also believe it’s not 100% correct if it contradicts the quran
Even the 100% hadith would be going against the word of Allah and the Quran though, as the Quran claims to be the best hadith and a book fully detailed. Mentioned to us numerous times btw. God bless. Its either you trust in God or not. Allah warns us in the Quran of this. May he continue to bless you and guide us all.
Its so frustrating to even wait for the right guy to make a point. Bro be fast and don't be such diva over any noise around you as INTERUPT.
Megamind lost his mind
i havent seen this quaranist get refuted yet
Ahmed's arrogance won't let him listen, he thinks he knows it and talking about civility, go and study the Arabic language before u argue about the Glorious Quran.
I am another Somali Quranist. Ahmed keep up the good work. I respect Ahmed's courage and guts to continue our missionary efforts to counter the Salafi, Takfiri and Wahhabi narrative prevalent amongst the Youth.
Khalad
You are a non Muslim 😂😂😂 my guy
So Allah was relying on technology to convey his message 😂😂😂
Fellow somali Quran alone here alhamdulillah
I think the more you give this brother clout. The more he thinks he’s a scholar. Please stop posting videos of this man on your page. Take it all down. We don’t need the spread of Hadith rejectors to carry on. With you using your platform to highlight this video. It’ll only make people who are already stepping one foot out of the Deen, deviate even more. Spread this sickness to others
This Ahmed guy needs help!!! He is so insecure, he can't handle being asked questions. All of his debates he acts like a child...he shouldn't be allowed at the speakers corner.
@Koba thats because he never answers the correctly...always diverts the conversation or he will start making fun. Watch the debates with Shamsi.
My Somali brother you don't know Arabic and that's a fact every Arab can confirm that.
You want to tell me that hadj and hodja it the same meaning.
Go away bro
عمرو ما تكلم العربية جاي يعلم العرب أن الحج والحجة لهما نفس المعنى هههههه أحا على الثقة بالنفس
It’s the same word dictated by the context you Arab worshipper
No adab from the both of these guys they should both study
This somali looks as though his family disowned him so he's lost the plot
Little children fighting in the playground..
"one point" you made 4.
You're full of...
This guy should have a comedy channel ....🤣🤣🤣🤣
I actualy think he is mental and they shouldnt debate him.
The Somali guy irritates me alot, love somali people though.
Y has my man got his ears tucked into his cap lol thats a 1st
1:55 5:03 8:35
Somali guy looks stoned. Very annoying!
You listening to the debate or just commenting on what looks you like or dislike you weirdo
Kan somaliga wixiisa debate maaha..wa iska celi..hadii cadeyn lagu siiyo ama cadeyn iskaga celi hadii kale garta qaado
Runtaad u sheegta haduu qaadanaayo
somlian guy doesn't have any information he just want to win he is arrogant.
Ahmad if it is your real name... You need to stop your drama queen! And wash your mouth with your f.... words!
The bald dude needs to chill why he so angry all the time lol this what happens when you reject the sunna
He needs psychological help.
Seriously I would like to see Somali brothers natural smile. I've seen many of his videos on here and none of them have his natural smile
May be I should meet him up for a coffee and not talk about quran an sunnah🙂
Shamsuz Zaman inshallah akhi
this qurani is very selfish and thinks that he is right in everything he is just a weird guy he usnt even a discussion worth
Ahmed is funny with his child-like erratic behaviour. This is a sign of a defeated man.
Ahmed is truly the most logical there. How sad of you. May Allah guide you back yo the Quran. Watch more of Ahmed’s videos to help you bro.
@@Noname31a LOOOOOL okay man. Good day!
@@Untainted786 With the most respect. He is only pointing you in the right direction which is the Quran. God bless.
This guy got issues and attitude
Too much chewing cat lol
He’s been chewing too much khat 🤷🏽♂️
Somali Joker
Somali. . . . Hahahaha
This Somali budda is gone! No wonder he bald.
Carab saan noo yasayso waxa aan u daba socono garan maayo. Danteena aan ka raacno Diintoodana aan u dayno.
Weriya the Somali guy rejects quran and he was disrespectful the whole time
And all Muslim scholars of the ummah agree that whoever rejects Hadith is a kaffur
@@hussainabdulrazak2736 Hadith is not one of the 5 pillars if Islam nor 6 pillars of Iman. May you are talking the Takfiri Sheiks. This shows you the religion has got no bases. Its an opinion. .
Iftiinka Nolosha from where you get the 5 pillars from the Hadith and how will you know how to fast or pray Allah said in the quran( وَمَا آتَاكُمُ الرَّسُولُ فَخُذُوهُ وَمَا نَهَاكُمْ عَنْهُ فَانْتَهُوا» translation And what the messenger does not bring to you, and take it, and what we forbade you from it, then leave it ”
Iftiinka Nolosha how do you know its that there is five pillars their are more commandments in the quran Allah said in the quran يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا أَطِيعُوا اللَّهَ وَأَطِيعُوا الرَّسُولَ وَأُولِي الْأَمْرِ مِنكُمْ ۖ فَإِن تَنَازَعْتُمْ فِي شَيْءٍ فَرُدُّوهُ إِلَى اللَّهِ وَالرَّسُولِ إِن كُنتُمْ تُؤْمِنُونَ بِاللَّهِ وَالْيَوْمِ الْآخِرِ ۚ ذَٰلِكَ خَيْرٌ وَأَحْسَنُ تَأْوِيلًا (59) translation O ye who believe! Obey Allah and obey the Messenger and those of you, the you differ in anything amongst yourselves, refer it to Allah and His Messenger, if you believe in Allah and the other day it is better and better interpretation (59)