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  • @amadouceesay1298
    @amadouceesay1298 Před 3 lety +57

    His behaviour shows the importance of following the prophetic tradition.

    • @saabsk5955
      @saabsk5955 Před rokem

      Yeah tell that to Shamsi also, both are acting rude and out of control at times. Shamsi calling people non believers at will. He's lucky he's not back in his own country and calling someone there a kufar, he would not be well after calling that to someone.

    • @abuhurairah1121
      @abuhurairah1121 Před rokem

      He's like a brat

    • @armorwolf7934
      @armorwolf7934 Před 11 měsíci

      All those morals and behaviours that you refer to is in the Quran. Surah luqman talks about not to be overally boastful, the verse after 19 says be moderate in your pace and lower your voice and is against yelling loudly. There is another verse I don’t know in the top of my head it’s like someone greet you greet them with something better. In surah Al mumenon verse 3 it says the importance to stay away from I’ll speech. Another verse says do not ridicule other believers. It seems as if you think only the Hadith talks about the good manners. But if you focused on Quran and only on Quran I’m sure you would be much more knowledgeable of the Quran

    • @user-gu2qq3rh3w
      @user-gu2qq3rh3w Před 21 dnem

      @@armorwolf7934
      You'd think you're not mistaken those for events, Koran doesn't instruct good behaviour to man. Go by our natural.

  • @helpoj
    @helpoj Před 3 lety +56

    The somali mandem was like "this mans got to be stopped" 😂😂

    • @Aban234
      @Aban234 Před 3 lety +3

      Yeah but he twanged them all. Lol. Unfortunately all these brothers lack basic knowledge. They shouldn’t even be entertaining this conversation. They should leave it to their leader Shamsi.

    • @Nabad-deed
      @Nabad-deed Před 11 měsíci

      @@Aban234Their leader I am sorry but if you think Shamsi is a good debater your lying to yourself. Fake leader 🌚

  • @billyragnar2433
    @billyragnar2433 Před 9 měsíci +4

    Surah 6:116 - “AND IF YOU FOLLOW THE MAJORITY ON EARTH YOU WILL BE MISLED FROM THE WAY OF GOD. FOR THEY FOLLOW ASSUMPTION AND ARE ONLY GUESSING”

  • @abuabdullah1972
    @abuabdullah1972 Před 3 lety +16

    Instead of calling him quranist call him a hadith rejector...

    • @rtsamuels9974
      @rtsamuels9974 Před 2 lety +1

      then we should call you a mushrik. Do you think the Quran is not perfect and insufficient? careful

    • @abuabdullah1972
      @abuabdullah1972 Před 2 lety

      @@rtsamuels9974 you clearly did not understand what I said
      The guy doesn’t reject Quran and nobody doubts the Quran it’s the post perfect book in this world since it’s the kalam of Allah
      But he rejects the teaching of the prophet pbuh so we should call him a Hadith rejector

    • @rtsamuels9974
      @rtsamuels9974 Před 2 lety +1

      @@abuabdullah1972 He literally explains why following Allah and the prophet is the same thing. Allah sent down the Quran to the Prophet and he delivered the message. Sunnis and Shias think they are TWO different messages. If anything, they should be the ones referred as "Quran adders".

    • @UmarIbnAlKhattab1
      @UmarIbnAlKhattab1 Před rokem

      Hes a non Muslim

    • @homer1273
      @homer1273 Před 2 měsíci

      Bukhari was the biggest Hadith rejector. He rejected almost 10 million Hadith

  • @lol43399
    @lol43399 Před 3 lety +11

    The old lander uncle in the blue top is jarring, he just comes to heckle and has the the thought process of a fly

    • @mad-mullah3117
      @mad-mullah3117 Před 3 lety +1

      Your hooyo is a Lander!!
      Tf is Lander?

    • @lol43399
      @lol43399 Před 3 lety +3

      @@mad-mullah3117 allow it ur a big yute to be swearing on youtube, moist guy

    • @mad-mullah3117
      @mad-mullah3117 Před 3 lety +1

      @@lol43399 Eeey chips and fish hooeeee..there is no such a thing as lander...there is focking st in Hargeisa though where they sell qaldaan puss

  • @Hmza92
    @Hmza92 Před 2 lety

    Does anyone know what the app/website they’re using in the video? JazakhAlaah

  • @danh4435
    @danh4435 Před 3 lety +2

    It's time dependent but a lesson for all.

  • @kingkymani4523
    @kingkymani4523 Před 3 lety +49

    I think Ahmed just likes the attention...He’s an attention seeker who thinks he’s smarter than he actually is lol

    • @kingkymani4523
      @kingkymani4523 Před 3 lety +3

      AJ Have a nice day brother .

    • @SMDOP
      @SMDOP Před 3 lety +2

      @@TheQuranExplainsItself Fear Allah (SWT). Your rejecting the truth while its clear as day! Repent before its too late. This life is short, May Allah (SWT guide you before its too late. Its never too late to repent and Allah Azza Wa Jals mercy does not have limits so please turn to time before youre 6ft deep underground surrounded by darkness

    • @SMDOP
      @SMDOP Před 3 lety +2

      @@TheQuranExplainsItself Surah As.Saf: 61:14: O you who have believed, be supporters of Allah, as when Jesus, the son of Mary, said to the disciples, "Who are my supporters for Allah ?" The disciples said, "We are supporters of Allah ." And a faction of the Children of Israel believed and a faction disbelieved. So We supported those who believed against their enemy, and they became dominant.
      I am the supporter of Allah (SWT) eventhough he doesnt need me or us. I know life can be hard and confusing but dont lose yourself in this dunya. Im not being emotional but i want the best for you and my Ummah

    • @frankadaado2722
      @frankadaado2722 Před 3 lety +2

      Maverick X what is your point in this ? Do you reject Hadith or just upset about something else ?

  • @320speed
    @320speed Před 3 lety +16

    6:06 "I never used the words Scholars"
    4:55 - Mentions Scholars. This man is so fake!

  • @abode409
    @abode409 Před 3 lety +5

    From an Islamic standpoint, there’s no debate. Islam is the Quran and the Sunnah. No eloquent speech can get around that. Without the Sunnah Islam becomes a “do as you feel” religion like Christianity.

    • @Quran-Life
      @Quran-Life Před 2 lety

      Sunna opens to shaitan doors

    • @homer1273
      @homer1273 Před 2 měsíci

      Ironically the Christians also have sunnah of Paul that contradicts the Old Testament just like Hadith contradict the Quran

    • @mysticpanda5456
      @mysticpanda5456 Před 19 hodinami

      @@Quran-Life استغفر الله العظيم استغفر العظيم

  • @zayn6725
    @zayn6725 Před 3 lety +12

    Why are people mocking him and laughing at him? May Allah guide him and let’s deal with his intellectual arguments

    • @Sab__007
      @Sab__007 Před 3 lety +1

      @D Man That is very untrue... this man has a ignorant behaviour. Didn't you watch the other videos.

  • @izzhoque
    @izzhoque Před 3 lety +25

    Honestly why do brothers waste their time on this guy. His attitude is completely off key.

  • @stefanobong2916
    @stefanobong2916 Před 3 lety +22

    Big up Ahmed the Somali maverick for standing on his square 👍🏾

    • @AB-im6de
      @AB-im6de Před 3 lety +8

      Shut it

    • @itaqilaah6607
      @itaqilaah6607 Před 2 lety +2

      Shut up this is exactly what haters of islam want a division between us

  • @Tony-gy3rx
    @Tony-gy3rx Před rokem +1

    Dude asked a question about Surah 9, Verse 14 and the Muslim brother clearly showed the verses were referred to the idol worshipers who violated the peace treaty. SubhanAllah.

  • @projectedthoughts6046
    @projectedthoughts6046 Před rokem +6

    The brother is misguided imo but honestly, he was batting away these questions so easily. We need educated brothers to discuss these matters, not brothers who are just plucking at things and then ending up looking foolish.

  • @Habib.OO7
    @Habib.OO7 Před 3 lety

    The man speaking on the background really make me felt on the ground😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @mokhtarmeche6522
    @mokhtarmeche6522 Před 3 lety +1

    So will he write his undertanding of quoran to us or he will use it just for him?

  • @onthepathtovictory
    @onthepathtovictory Před 3 lety +2

    Mashallah congratulations on 1000 subscribers

  • @alimohamed9107
    @alimohamed9107 Před 3 lety +2

    I asked Somali where did any person who says believe the Quran get wrong g tell me guys plz

  • @saedm2359
    @saedm2359 Před 3 lety +1

    Bro you lens is foggy make sure it's cleaned next time akh I like your videos

  • @rshk8320
    @rshk8320 Před 5 měsíci

    "Wallahi, I have never seen anyone, but Somalis, adoring and trying their best to follow the Ahadith of Al Rasool Sallalahu Alayhi Wa Sallam to the maximum."

    • @homer1273
      @homer1273 Před 2 měsíci

      That’s why Somalia is a poor 3 world country

    • @homer1273
      @homer1273 Před 2 měsíci

      That’s why Somalia is in poor condition

  • @liverpoolfootball8372
    @liverpoolfootball8372 Před 2 lety +2

    He was like let me run I see shamsi

  • @ummzaynul370
    @ummzaynul370 Před měsícem

    Obey Allaah and obey the messenger.

  • @mustafaali9448
    @mustafaali9448 Před měsícem

    Thank you to the Somali brothers for hotting up this con artist. Does any other nationality want to adopt this man.

  • @bf6724
    @bf6724 Před 3 lety +35

    He is looking for fame, Just ignore this clown.

    • @nordinstitou650
      @nordinstitou650 Před 3 lety +2

      So true.

    • @crackeddnutt6617
      @crackeddnutt6617 Před 2 měsíci

      That means you have nothing to do with logic. You are just emotional fools.😂 I am no quranist or al hadis but I am with this somali guy today coz he makes more sense at leat in this video

  • @yobro6053
    @yobro6053 Před 3 lety +2

    Its interesting because even in the bible , the companions of Jesus Pbuh asked him to teach them how to pray the same was John Pbuh taught his own followers how to pray, these companions were Israelites who followed the law of moses and already understood how to pray , yet because of the new prophet they asked , even tho aware of how the old messengers prayed in the Torah. The same was Mohammed Pbuh teaching his own followers how to pray. Every prophet had their own but similar way of praying to their same God.

  • @steviejob5384
    @steviejob5384 Před 3 lety +1

    Best comment.."he is like a snake" the guy in blue says😂🤣😂

  • @revelation333
    @revelation333 Před 3 lety +16

    I agree with the Somali brother.

    • @revelation333
      @revelation333 Před 3 lety +7

      @Ancient Rageedi
      Ye, the Hadith rejector. Sorry for the misunderstanding.

    • @samirahsamir6930
      @samirahsamir6930 Před 3 lety

      Ak Jay SubxanAllah are you another Hadith rejector ? Allah hakusoo hanauunsho gaalnimo weeye waxaasiye

    • @hungryhugo7400
      @hungryhugo7400 Před 3 lety

      He is not logical at all. He can not translate zhe quran just by taking a dictionary and look at the words and know what is really ment by it.
      You have to know Arabic to understand the Quran correctly without having misconceptions, which he clearly has.

    • @revelation333
      @revelation333 Před 3 lety +1

      @@hungryhugo7400
      Ye, but he reads the translation from the Arabs therefore understanding the Quran is not impossible even though u don't know Arabic. If you believe Quran is only for the Arabs that means Islam is only for the Arabs therefore we won't be judged hereafter due to the fact we're ignorant.
      None Arab, Quranist relies on English translation which was translated by Arabs and we believe most of the translation are correct except only a few.

    • @hungryhugo7400
      @hungryhugo7400 Před 3 lety

      @@revelation333 I never said that the Quran is for Arabs, I myself I'm not an Arab.
      But Allah severel times said that the Quran was revealed in Arabic, does Allah say void things? No. So to understand the Quran fully you should know Arabic. Likewise if u have a book in Chinese u should know the Chinese language to understand it fully. You can not rely on a translation only, bcs a translation is according to the understanding of the translator.
      And I saw many videos with this guy. And he always says "it's my understanding" dude, who is he? And always answers questions with other questions.

  • @samirahsamir6930
    @samirahsamir6930 Před 3 lety

    SubhanAllah May Allah SWT guide him 🥺 very sad that he is somali wAllahi

  • @khalidzaman5019
    @khalidzaman5019 Před rokem +3

    Which hadith after it (Quran) do they believe in? 7:185
    So in which hadith after it (Quran) do they believe? 77:50
    Both verses above, once again using the word "hadith", contain the same clear commandment: not to follow any source of religious guidance and law other than the Quran. We also read:
    A Book has been brought down to you, so let there be no constraint in your chest because of it, and so that you may warn with it. It is a Reminder for the believers.
    Follow what has been brought down to you from your Lord and do not follow any allies besides Him. Rarely do you remember! 7:2-3
    The words in 7:2-3 contain clear instructions to follow the Quran and nothing else.
    Or do you have some book in which you are studying? 68:37
    In 68:37 God is mocking those who have other books besides the Quran which they follow.
    And this is a blessed Book which We brought down, so follow it and be reverent so that you may attain mercy. 6:155

  • @madaxwayne
    @madaxwayne Před 3 lety +12

    Im genuinely baffled...
    How do these quranists pray then if not without the guidance of hadith

    • @madaxwayne
      @madaxwayne Před 3 lety +1

      @@TheQuranExplainsItself it must unless you expect every muslim to pray in differing ways

    • @madaxwayne
      @madaxwayne Před 3 lety +5

      @@TheQuranExplainsItself how do you pray and how many rakahs and how do you know to do these things?

    • @madaxwayne
      @madaxwayne Před 3 lety

      @@TheQuranExplainsItself How about praying the way allah intended us to via the prophet?
      Also what do you mean whats the problem with praying your own way...if each muslim prays a different way then praying in congregration will not be doable
      Also praying your own way as you say would mean not praying the allah intended you to do and seeing as your a quranist you then must believe the exact way to pray is layed out in the quran and the hadith is not needed

    • @falsehoodrefuted
      @falsehoodrefuted Před 3 lety +3

      @@TheQuranExplainsItself wallahi you are misguided. Its sad really!
      You think the prophet Muhammad Sullallahu alayhi wassallam was a postman who just delivered the mail?! Audhubillah!
      You are a new phenomenon! Also the Quraniyoon are even propheciswd in the authentic narrations!

    • @madaxwayne
      @madaxwayne Před 3 lety

      @@TheQuranExplainsItself the specifics is in thehadith

  • @richardanthony3267
    @richardanthony3267 Před 2 měsíci

    I have to say though when I became a Muslim, I didn’t know any Muslims at all and this is 30 years ago, but I found the translation of the Quran and I read that and that made me a Muslim actually Allah guided me to Islam but my point is the Quran can guide the people even the English translations it’s Allah, who gives Hidayah so I became a Muslim without knowing anything about the Sunnah or even knowing a Muslim, I didn’t even know how to make the shahada, But I believed. I know the Sunnah is an integral part of Islam that allows someone to understand and practice Islam , to his best ability, but in my journey in Islam, I’ve seen the Muslims are far more familiar with Hadith than they are with the Quran specially in the western societies, and unfortunately, in these times vast majority of the Muslims, have actually misrepresented the purpose and the difference between Hadith and Sunna, it’s clear Hadith and Sunnah are not the same,.. true Hadith support the Sunnah but they are not the Sunnah within themselves. The Muslims know today more about fiqh then they do about Quran ayaat on purifying the heart, which is the purpose of the Quran.

  • @deendeen7206
    @deendeen7206 Před 21 dnem

    Ya allah help us

  • @sidness3719
    @sidness3719 Před 3 lety +5

    This Ahmed guy makes more sense and uses rationale to explain his belief. All the clowns that surround him behave like a childish mob to discredit him. Typical behaviour of ignorant and small minded people. I understood the context he was talking about straight away...meaning the verses refer to a specific incident when the prophet and idol worshippers from mecca entered into a peace treaty, and Allah is laying down the rules of engagement...telling the muslims to uphold the peace unless they break it first...then fight them etc. etc.
    Context if very important as well as interpretation, and Ahmed is very well spoken if only the unruly mob let him speak.

  • @nafsybareed6119
    @nafsybareed6119 Před 3 lety +1

    سبحان الله وبحمده عدد خلقه ورضا نفسه وزنة عرشه ومداد كلماته..
    سبحان الله العظيم عدد خلقه ورضا نفسه وزنة عرشة ومداد كلماته..
    أستغفر الله العظيم الذي لا إله إلا هو الحي القيوم وأتوب إليه ..
    عدد مافي السموات والارض وملء مافيهما..
    أستغفر الله العظيم من كل ذنب عظيم..
    اللهم صل على محمد وعلى آل محمد صلاة وسلام دائمين متواصلين لاينقطعان حتى نلقاك ياربنا ..
    اللهم اغفر للمسلمين والمسلمات الاحياء منهم والاموات ..
    اللهم اشف مرضى المسلمين وعاف المبتلين يا أرحم الراحمين ..
    اللهم اغفر لموتى المسلمين وارحمهم واعف عنهم ووسع لهم في قبورهم
    واجعلها لهم رحمة وسعة ونورا وبردا وسلاما واجعلها روضة من رياض الجنه يارحمن يارحيم ..

  • @aal-alimi-805
    @aal-alimi-805 Před 3 lety +1

    There is something called Arabic Grammar and it requires knowledge if you can't translate certin words within the beginning of the souras.
    There is ahkam "Al Quran" those been approved or graduate by the Islamic university can translate and provide fatwa .

  • @samirahsamir6930
    @samirahsamir6930 Před 3 lety

    4:43 He doesn’t know the Quran 😳🙈 SubhanAllah

  • @sudaniaprincess5897
    @sudaniaprincess5897 Před 3 lety

    May Allah guide him ameen - this is a big problem wallahi

    • @redman6790
      @redman6790 Před 2 lety

      Scary insidious problem wallahi munafiq

  • @nav01nav
    @nav01nav Před 3 lety +1

    He saw shamshi wanted to run🤣🤣

  • @lionofthehornofafrica3631

    He can’t be a Somali coz to be Somali is to be Muslim..If you leave islam and you were somali now you not..Coz to be Somali is to be Muslim period..May Allah help us all specially this lost soul..

  • @menofunderstanding
    @menofunderstanding Před 3 lety

    Because the hadith put the Quran into practice, and Allah swt left at job for the living Messenger saaw,. To put the Quran into action in his sayings, actions and deeds. This is what hadith, the Quran doesn't tell you to grow a beard but the hadith does. And there are millions of hadith that are telling us to carry out our deen in action. They are from the same source Allah swt sent his Messengers to guide mankind and we can relate to a man who is a prophet peace be upon him because we are men!!! and the prophet peace be upon him is our role model the Living Quran. Islam is easy not complicated and people like this play with Words may God almighty guide sincere people Ameen ya rab ❤❤❤

    • @ayanali4795
      @ayanali4795 Před 3 lety +1

      Loool, this is one of the weakest argument.
      so your arguement against following quran alone as source of guidance is because the quran did not mention growing "BEARDS"?

  • @gamesfc1603
    @gamesfc1603 Před 3 lety +3

    The quranist is right n the other brother is right but, there's a but. Only catch is with the hadith u have to proof if it's authentic or false. What he's trying to say is, forget who justifies it it's all about can u do the justifications yourself? Who tells us what's authentic n what's not? It's the Qur'an. Most authentic hadith comes from the Qur'an the false ones are all added by some weirdo. That's why there's authentic hadith n weak ones which the kufs use against us. Final say, there's no contradictions within the Qur'an but there are many contradictions in the hadith let's all be honest here.
    All I see is one brother arguing for the Qur'an and the other arguing for the hadith can y'all pls tell me who has the stronger arguement here?
    Thank you.

  • @jwaherhamed5740
    @jwaherhamed5740 Před 3 lety

    Those who refuse hadiths are they not trusting the one who transmitted them to us? If this is the case, then they want an entrance to reject the Qur’an in the future for the same argument .. because those who transmitted the Qur’an, collected it and wrote it, are the Companions, and they are the ones who transmitted the hadiths to us as well.

  • @lol43399
    @lol43399 Před 3 lety +2

    May allah guide ahmed, but as somalis we shouldn't push him away just because his views are different cos end of the day he is still muslim and Somali , just have civil debates with him and slowly change his mind. Come with facts that he cannot argue against and may allah guide him h

    • @omarionshev798
      @omarionshev798 Před 3 lety +1

      How do you know he is even a muslim.. ?
      Someone who doesn't believe in prophet Muhammad (s.a.w) ..
      He is doesn't believe in the 5 daily prayers... his views are irrelevant to us as long as he doesn't believe in Allah's messenger. Period

  • @mad-mullah3117
    @mad-mullah3117 Před 3 lety +9

    😂 the somali guy in the back "Ahmed is the only qurani in Somalia" 😂😂😂🤦‍♂️

  • @clearbaba1360
    @clearbaba1360 Před 3 lety +2

    big up quranist, im not a muslim but many muslims that i know left islam because of the hadiths

    • @clearbaba1360
      @clearbaba1360 Před 3 lety

      @East african 123 yeah there are very horrible things there.

    • @misterjibril6528
      @misterjibril6528 Před rokem

      And many more joined...so what's your point?

    • @clearbaba1360
      @clearbaba1360 Před rokem

      @@misterjibril6528 many more joined because you lied to them. many many left after finding out you lied to them, so what's your point? WITHOUT LIE ISLAM DIES

    • @misterjibril6528
      @misterjibril6528 Před rokem

      @@clearbaba1360 fastest growing religion....case closed.

  • @ttaylor70ify
    @ttaylor70ify Před 7 měsíci +1

    Here lies the problem. If the Quran says it’s clear then no you don’t need anything else. Now if you want to model the prophet SAW you have the right. If you want it put trust into a scholar to explain it to you have that right…. But once anything opposes your intellect of the Quran or its verbiage you cannot follow or believe it. Quran is that Book

  • @alikthenam
    @alikthenam Před 3 měsíci

    He says Quran is easy to remember. Ok, but what about short Hadith, it's also easy.

  • @hussainasad7988
    @hussainasad7988 Před 3 lety +7

    The Hadith rejector is right and makes sense shamsi and his followers really are that blind and sad to say thick

    • @ma7561
      @ma7561 Před 3 lety +4

      Brother use your intellect, how can this hadith rejector be right 🤦‍♂️A Muslim will not even be able to perform his 5 pillars of Islam without hadith. Here are just a few of the questions can't be answered with the Quran alone- How do people pray? How many times do they pray each day and night? What are the conditions and details of zakah? What is the nisab (threshold of wealth) for paying zakah? What is the amount that must be paid? How do they do Hajj and ‘Umrah? How many times do they circumambulate the Ka’bah? How many times do they go back and forth between al-Safa and al-Marwah?

    • @hussainasad7988
      @hussainasad7988 Před 3 lety +4

      M A where in the Quran did Allah say to follow Bukhari ? Your sunnah is based on a man who come 200 years after the prophet . The Hadith rejector spoke directly from the Quran and destroyed any points he made and
      If you can show me anywhere the prophet even mentioned Bukharis name I’ll follow your sunnah

    • @ma7561
      @ma7561 Před 3 lety +3

      @Koba If you knew anything about preservation of hadith you'll know that the SAME people narrated hadith that narrated Quran to us. Why do you think that the Quran is preserved? Because Allah says so but the method Allah used was through oral transmission by trustworthy people, the same people narrated hadith, so why believe one and not the other? Would these chosen people tell the truth about quran but lie about hadith naudhubillah?

    • @CircumcisedUnicorn
      @CircumcisedUnicorn Před 3 lety +3

      M A Ignore this attention seeking troll brother, he couldn’t retort to my comments in another video. Nothing but a misinformed farce.

    • @ma7561
      @ma7561 Před 3 lety

      @Koba May Allah guide you

  • @ebrahimjohnson6983
    @ebrahimjohnson6983 Před 3 lety +2

    Truly the Trinity destroys intellect and rejecting hadeeth destroys common sense

    • @Quran-Life
      @Quran-Life Před 2 lety

      Allah said in the Quran He explained everything in the Quran..

  • @CircumcisedUnicorn
    @CircumcisedUnicorn Před 3 lety +3

    Abdullah ibn Amr reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “What comes over my nation will surely be what came over the children of Israel, step by step until if one of them fornicated with his mother, one from my nation would do the same. Verily, the children of Israel split into seventy-two sects and my nation will split into seventy-three sects.” They said, “Who are they, O Messenger of Allah?” The Prophet said, “Those who follow my way and my companions.”
    Source: Sunan al-Tirmidhī 2641
    Afw ibn Malik reported: The Messenger of Allah, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “The Jews split into seventy-one sects, one of them is in Paradise and seventy are in the Hellfire. The Christians split into seventy-two sects, seventy-one are in the Hellfire and one of them is in Paradise. By the One in whose hand is the soul of Muhammad, my nation will split into seventy-three sects, one of them is in Paradise and seventy-two are in the Hellfire.” It was said, “O Messenger of Allah, who are the ones in Paradise?” The Prophet said, “The united community.”
    Source: Sunan Ibn Mājah 3992
    Grade: Sahih (authentic) according to Al-Albani
    From my understanding, in order to succeed in this world and in the hereafter, you need to combine the Quran, along with the teachings of the Sunnah (learnt from reliable Hadiths). Remember, the salat rakats were not detailed in the Quran, but we learnt through Hadith. The Sahaba (companions of the Prophet) are also wonderful for knowledge and insight.
    I also like to keep in mind that each time a prophet was sent to humanity from Allah, they were not given a book, no, but word of mouth and actions. In order to get onto the path that Allah wants, you need to study the words that came out of the mouths of the prophets and also study their actions. The teachings Allah conveyed to Abraham, Moses and Jesus (peace be upon them all) have been corrupted because their enemies exploited the lack of Sunnah. However, the teachings, words and actions of the final prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) have been preserved by the Sunnah. It’s the combination of both Quran and Sunnah that will teach you the most knowledge and insight into Islam, in my humble opinion.

  • @imgguru1277
    @imgguru1277 Před 3 lety +5

    This last guy wasn't sincere. Ahmed gave him a clear context from the Quran but he was just looking to argue.

    • @jimblack8104
      @jimblack8104 Před 3 lety +5

      Ahmed uses his brain and intellect so robot Muslims don’t like him

  • @abeel4879
    @abeel4879 Před rokem +1

    Just leave this guy. So many people have talked to him already. Ask him how does he pray and he will say he prostrates and bows like the Qur'an says. How many rak'as? He will say I don't know because it's not in the Qur'an. Ask him to pray in congregation with the brothers and he will say no and he will humiliate himself. Done.

  • @blackmancool9983
    @blackmancool9983 Před 3 lety +12

    He was solid on his points im not going to lie.

    • @danh4435
      @danh4435 Před 3 lety +1

      Who?

    • @danh4435
      @danh4435 Před 3 lety +2

      So u rejecting hadith too now?

    • @blackmancool9983
      @blackmancool9983 Před 3 lety +1

      Im non Muslim.
      I genuinely follow the other interpretation BUT IN THIS SCENARIO Ahmed stood firm.

    • @ahmerhamid3333
      @ahmerhamid3333 Před 3 lety +1

      So when you car breaks down why do you got to a car mechanic? When you feel ill why do you go to the doctor? If everything can be done by an individual, then why do we need specialists for specific jobs?

    • @danh4435
      @danh4435 Před 3 lety +1

      Blackman Cool9 oh so you're here to see how you can attack the muslims with their understanding of hadith. Hmmm... These guys are trying to make the Quran like a Bible it ain't gonna work. Hadith and Quran go hand in hand. They don't contradict eachother.

  • @irfanlokhandwala4823
    @irfanlokhandwala4823 Před 3 lety

    I don’t understand These quraani s don’t believe in hadiths cause of the people who forwarded them but they believe in the translation of the Quran without knowing the translators

  • @seffynaffy4014
    @seffynaffy4014 Před 3 lety

    i newer tod that you have peaple like this in somal subhanalah.viese orja man 3abra 3abra

  • @maodijong3661
    @maodijong3661 Před 3 lety +6

    Why's that crew interrupting and turning this into a clown show?

  • @henabegum2404
    @henabegum2404 Před 3 lety

    What is a quranist? and do they follow the sunnah?

    • @Love-Allah-So-Much
      @Love-Allah-So-Much Před 3 lety

      One who follows Quran only not hadiths. I think sunnah in Arabic means "practices" whereas hadiths means "event."

    • @samirahsamir6930
      @samirahsamir6930 Před 3 lety

      Mohammed Fiaz Hadith means narrative or the teaching of prophet Muhammad pbuh not event.
      Edit: he rejected the teaching of prophet Muhammad pbuh and he is not Muslim may Allah SWT guide him.

  • @TaliyaDarling
    @TaliyaDarling Před 3 lety +1

    And We have also sent down unto you (O Muhammad SAW) the reminder and the advice (the Qur’ân), that you may explain clearly to men what is sent down to them, and that they may give thought. (16:44)
    I think these Quranis should take a deeper look at this verse and understand the important of hadith.

    • @Quran-Life
      @Quran-Life Před 2 lety +1

      Allah said He send down Zikr to explain.. not the sunna or hadith..
      Allah said in the Quran.. that He explained everything in the Quran.. if its not enough then problem is not in Quranists but in you

  • @KingHerm1t
    @KingHerm1t Před 3 lety +6

    You guys lost this argument.....especially when you dont want to admit that the verse he said was time dependent. I agree that you cant deny the hadiths, but insha'allah khair next debate you find the answer your looking for.

    • @MrLosches
      @MrLosches Před 3 lety +1

      On this one he really was right.

    • @SMDOP
      @SMDOP Před 3 lety +3

      Dont be fooled brother. No verse time dependant but rather the Quran is Universal and for all times. We can derive lessons from every single ayah in the quran which means it is and will forever be relevant. That would necessitate that no ayah is time dependant but rather its universal which makes the Quran unlike anything else. May Allah (SWT) forgive us for our mistakes.

    • @Sab__007
      @Sab__007 Před 3 lety

      No brother don't get yourself misleaded. This is what Shaytan do. It doubts you by listenening by this type of guys with a wrong character.

  • @ktown9464
    @ktown9464 Před 3 lety +2

    Just ask him:
    1. How do you perform the five daily prayers exactly?
    2. Is it allowed to marry a sister WITH her aunt (as a second wife)?
    For the 2nd question: He (the quranist) must say Yes. Because the holy Quran didn't speak about that.
    But it's haram. Because the prophet صلى الله عليه وسلم told us (so we need the Sunnah).

    • @samirahsamir6930
      @samirahsamir6930 Před 3 lety

      Abd Al-Razzaq Very ignorant person. Who think Quran only talk about corruption 🙈 may Allah SWT guide you

    • @hungryhugo7400
      @hungryhugo7400 Před 3 lety

      This guy doesn't pray

    • @zingo6999
      @zingo6999 Před 16 dny

      Nisa:22-23 read the Quran you’re boring me🥱

    • @ktown9464
      @ktown9464 Před 16 dny

      @@zingo6999 You can't even understand and probably read Arabic ❗️
      Listen, Allah subhaanu wa ta'aala didn't mention that you can marry a woman and her aunt (as a second wif) at the same time.
      This is haram by the way. Its mentioned in the Sunnah of our prophet Muhammad peace be upon Him.
      So we can't live by Quran alone. We need the Sunnah our prophet also.

    • @zingo6999
      @zingo6999 Před 16 dny

      @@ktown9464 You sound like you haven’t read Quran in a while. And you’re ignorant to think I don’t know Arabic? Wallah you make me laugh 😂 Your mushrik book can go in the 🚮

  • @bigbig83uk
    @bigbig83uk Před 3 lety +1

    Quranist 1 Somali Speaker 0

  • @hrb2147
    @hrb2147 Před 3 lety

    Are you guys sure this young mand knows the Quran,when you said Quranest,means he is Xafith and he only fellows Quran?so does this man knows the Quran?he is Maskin no Quran no Hadith he need to study first.

  • @user-xu1hn3ic6b
    @user-xu1hn3ic6b Před měsícem

    What Muslims in SIN tell us is every verse came down with a scenario.
    So we need Hadith to explain that position of the scenario for one to understand Quran an know the sunnah/practices of Mohamed .
    That's by your ecplanation.
    Can you back it up with Quran verses saying Hadith about prophet,what he did and said will be written and be used to understand Quran,?

  • @TigerTiger-cx3ln
    @TigerTiger-cx3ln Před rokem +2

    I love his logic. He doesn't reason like an indoctrinated person. The people arguing with him sound like they want him to neglect his common sense and just do what someone said.

  • @Ramla_ruuxi
    @Ramla_ruuxi Před 3 lety

    Even when he mentions mohamed he doesn't say scw! 😳😳😳😳 Kan waa gaal 100%%%%%

  • @waliwonka8728
    @waliwonka8728 Před 3 lety

    if he rejects the Hadith how does he pray he's basically saying everything that happened on the prophet days is not for us subhanallah

    • @omarionshev798
      @omarionshev798 Před 3 lety

      He already said that he doesn't pray at all . Prayers were at the time of the Prophet s.a.w as he says 🤣🤣

    • @omarionshev798
      @omarionshev798 Před 3 lety

      @@TheQuranExplainsItself am talking about the Somali guys in the video not you unless you are that guy ! Sorry

    • @omarionshev798
      @omarionshev798 Před 3 lety

      @@TheQuranExplainsItself You said this and i saw it months ago in one of your debates with brother shamsi .. can't remember the exact video btw. So if this is not the case can you tell us your stand concerning salat, the 5 daily prayers, then i will apologise to you .!
      Do you pray the 5 daily prayers?

    • @omarionshev798
      @omarionshev798 Před 3 lety

      @@TheQuranExplainsItself You know what i mean 5 daily prayers.
      Do you pray the 5 recommended daily prayers? Everyone makes duas all day !

  • @ayaankhan4316
    @ayaankhan4316 Před rokem

    Outside said park and away from said cameras he aint as loud

  • @mohamoudgoth9461
    @mohamoudgoth9461 Před 3 lety +5

    Stop the mocking, make dua he is our brother. But the best way to end this brothers argument is, just ask him did the prophet pbuh pray? We have evidence that the prophet pbuh prayed from the prophet pbuh Wife’s and the companions. What evidence does he have that the prophet pbuh never prayed?

    • @Abduboy13th
      @Abduboy13th Před 3 lety

      He is not our brother, he is a disbeliever.

    • @mohamoudgoth9461
      @mohamoudgoth9461 Před 3 lety

      AbduSako brother in humanity at least.

    • @Abduboy13th
      @Abduboy13th Před 3 lety +1

      @@mohamoudgoth9461 since when is this a thing lol

    • @mohamoudgoth9461
      @mohamoudgoth9461 Před 3 lety

      AbduSako Touché

    • @Abduboy13th
      @Abduboy13th Před 3 lety

      @The Chosen One it is correct sentence, as we are all children of Adam and Eve. But it is a new concept to use it like that, and I am unsure if it was used in our Islamic history at all.

  • @saharsakri578
    @saharsakri578 Před 3 lety +11

    This quranist guy is doing my head in. If u dont believe the sunnah then your deen is not complete. Anyways may Allah swt guide him ameen

    • @saharsakri578
      @saharsakri578 Před 3 lety +2

      @@TheQuranExplainsItself you should careful if u disregard the sunnah. Stop making ur own tafseer and fear Allah swt

    • @falsehoodrefuted
      @falsehoodrefuted Před 3 lety +1

      @@TheQuranExplainsItself it is complete because it tells us that the messenger was sent to explain the Qur'an.
      The Sunnah is mentioned in the Qur'an, it is called the hikmah!
      Even in the hikmah (the wisdom) we actually have a saheeh hadith that prophecised the Quraniyoon (those who only accept the Qur'an and deny the ahaadith)
      The irony is startling!

    • @falsehoodrefuted
      @falsehoodrefuted Před 3 lety

      @@TheQuranExplainsItself You just accused me of lying against the Qur'an.
      Again the irony is startling.
      Anyway, that aside.
      Send me the ayat where Allah Subhannahu wata'aala calls the Qur'an THE HIKMAH.
      What i am going to do is send you the ayaat where Allah tells us clearly that he sent "The Hikmah"

    • @falsehoodrefuted
      @falsehoodrefuted Před 3 lety

      @@vegeta2703 very good point!

    • @falsehoodrefuted
      @falsehoodrefuted Před 3 lety

      @@TheQuranExplainsItself Vegeta just literally destroyed you! Like ridiculously destroyed you. Your response is actually embarrassing.
      Let's see how embarrassing your response is going to be now! Oh boy! May Allah give you ikhlas before I send this ayah! Aameen

  • @ricoexport7890
    @ricoexport7890 Před 3 lety +3

    Lets say for arguments sake im a Quranist. Why would i not be interested in first hand eye witnesses reports?
    How did the people understood the prophet? How did they understand the Quran?
    What were their toughts and opinions?
    All these valuable information! If it doesnt go against the Quran and the evidence is there that its first hand eye witness report , i would be dieing to get to know more about how my religion started.
    It is truly from the devil to say " i dont want to hear about it " ....

  • @fozpringle1
    @fozpringle1 Před 3 lety +1

    Why does this brother always pull the "constipated" face

  • @sunni370
    @sunni370 Před 3 lety +2

    You need people of knowledge to deal with these misguided Quranists otherwise your gonna cause confusion for your listeners

  • @aliasgargodhrawala2139

    The don't even know the quran properly , just want to avoid the strict rulings of Islam by avoiding the hadis

  • @ibnuabdullah5153
    @ibnuabdullah5153 Před 3 lety

    Common guys you can't debate with out knowledge, you're trying to help him but you can't. In my view seek basic knowledge please. Jizakallah kheyr brothers

  • @mubaraksalah5943
    @mubaraksalah5943 Před 3 lety +2

    Ahmed the Maverick, inaba caadi maha.

  • @user-ym3po9gu4e
    @user-ym3po9gu4e Před 2 lety

    Not Muslim rejecting Rasulullah SAW teachings

  • @user-zv6iw7il1k
    @user-zv6iw7il1k Před 3 lety +2

    The earliest written Quran was written 20-40 years after the prophet passed away, hadiths on the other hand was written and recorded hundreds of years after the prophet had passed away. Which one is more trustworthy make up your mind !

    • @user-zv6iw7il1k
      @user-zv6iw7il1k Před 3 lety +1

      THFC All The Way the hadiths are like the bible stories put together and people argue saying Quran and the Hadith goes together no mate the Quran is pure Hadith is not

  • @DalmarDiinlawe
    @DalmarDiinlawe Před 3 lety +8

    Bro Ahmed do not speak to those kids again. It's difficult to have a conversation with people who are not honest. They will even deny 2+2=4.

  • @allahwithmeneverbedeprived3494

    Masha Allah i see flag of reublic of Somaliland ♥️

  • @nazarabdallah4841
    @nazarabdallah4841 Před 3 lety

    Man i want to meet shamsi so bad 😂😂

  • @aharaw007rawat3
    @aharaw007rawat3 Před 8 měsíci

    2023...this guy is nonsense he full of himself...he wanna RUN

  • @silversmoke100
    @silversmoke100 Před rokem

    0.000001% lol

  • @baharismail1844
    @baharismail1844 Před 3 lety

    This man keeps referring to the Prophet Mohamed (PBUH) has "a man" in a lot of videos. He has zero respect for our Prophet Mohamed (PBUH). May Allah guide him. It's very sad...

  • @dailytv6811
    @dailytv6811 Před 3 lety +1

    🤣🤣🤣

  • @Sab__007
    @Sab__007 Před 3 lety

    HAHAHA he is scared of Shamsi. This Somali knows he is going to lose his debate

  • @crackeddnutt6617
    @crackeddnutt6617 Před 2 měsíci

    Bit I don't find anything wrong with his logic. 😢

  • @Pasharukr
    @Pasharukr Před 4 měsíci

    A herd attacks a man thinking for himself. Allah Azzawajal commands not to divide into sects. Allah Azzawajal says the Quran is complete and fully detailed. Now what?

  • @A1-Beamer
    @A1-Beamer Před 3 lety

    There's was no point uploading this...

    • @A1-Beamer
      @A1-Beamer Před 3 lety

      @@AKhair-fc6pm Allaah says (interpretation of the meaning): “He who obeys the Messenger has indeed obeyed Allaah . . .” [al-Nisaa’ 4:80] Allaah described obedience to the Prophet (peace be upon him) as being a part of obedience to Him. Then He made a connection between obedience to Him and obedience to the Prophet (peace be upon him): “O you who believe! Obey Allaah and obey the Messenger . . .” [al-Nisaa’ 4:59]
      Following the Quraan and the Saheeh Sunnah according to the rightly guided generation is the correct way.
      May Allah SWT guide us all.
      Jazaak allahu khayraan

    • @A1-Beamer
      @A1-Beamer Před 3 lety

      @@AKhair-fc6pm May allah swt guide us all. Do more research the hell fire 🔥 is not something we want to go close to.

    • @Quran-Life
      @Quran-Life Před 2 lety +1

      Whoever follows hadiths except Quran - disobeying God and his messanger..

    • @A1-Beamer
      @A1-Beamer Před 2 lety

      @@Quran-Life If you are a sincere muslim would be saying that? if you understand the quraan you would not be saying that. Learn before you speak. Speak when you have learnt.

    • @Quran-Life
      @Quran-Life Před 2 lety

      @@A1-Beamer God said guidance is Quran.. but your guidance is Buhari..
      Allah said that He explained everything in the Quran.. but you take explanation from the Buhari..
      Prophet had no his own teaching other than Quran.. he was commanded to follow only Quran..
      Buhari has nothing to do with prophet...
      You havent undertood yet that they made you go astray with false tafsir..

  • @user-cx9qn5np7i
    @user-cx9qn5np7i Před 3 lety +1

    Shamsi enters, aka here comes the cavalry

  • @fastingfuriousfitness8580

    How did he learn to clean himself, pray , fast etc... debate finished!

    • @imgguru1277
      @imgguru1277 Před 3 lety +3

      How did you learn all that?

    • @imgguru1277
      @imgguru1277 Před 3 lety +1

      @IFFI Sunnah is a very vague term. Be more specific.

  • @user-xu1hn3ic6b
    @user-xu1hn3ic6b Před měsícem

    Why does Quran instead say it's the best Hadith.
    Do you refer to Hadith as divine revelation?
    Then we have two revelations in islam
    Why does Quran say
    It's a book of guidance
    It is clear in Arabic
    It's a detailed explanation
    It explains all things.
    So Islam=Quran+Hadith+sirat by ibn ishaq.
    These are the sources used.
    Hadith and sirat by ibn ishaq come 230 and 150 years after death of Mohamed.
    They are just here say
    Not by eye witnesses
    Swahabas never wrote any.
    That's the beginning of issues in Islam..Hadith and sirat taken as reliable about Mohamed..
    Islam rulers and scholars have developed their own stuff like jurisprudence,shariah yet their is no single verse which says we gave Mohamed shariah

  • @najmaabdi6958
    @najmaabdi6958 Před 3 lety +2

    Warkan wu na cawaay ya naga qabto we Somali people a Muslim we do Not reject hadith

  • @darkdarker4596
    @darkdarker4596 Před rokem

    Just ignore him LIKE Hatun

  • @SNKRIZE_
    @SNKRIZE_ Před 3 lety

    Wow our ummah is really divided . I am so confused ...may Allah Guide us to the straight path

    • @Sab__007
      @Sab__007 Před 3 lety

      Don't get confused by this type of guys. Listen to scholars who really knows the islam.

  • @buckarbucks
    @buckarbucks Před 3 lety

    This guys lot he need Guidance

  • @tamimi8085
    @tamimi8085 Před 3 lety

    Can someone please just ask there Quraani how many Rakah is duhur and where from they got that information !
    And ask them how they do zakah!

    • @omarfarooq1350
      @omarfarooq1350 Před 3 lety

      We're is the prayer mentioned by name in the Quran?

    • @omarfarooq1350
      @omarfarooq1350 Před 3 lety

      The prayer duhur

    • @tamimi8085
      @tamimi8085 Před 3 lety

      omar faroiq
      What’s your point ?

    • @tamimi8085
      @tamimi8085 Před 3 lety

      Abd Al-Razzaq
      If you are Quraani please let me know how did you the number of Rukaa in Salah , provide references

    • @tamimi8085
      @tamimi8085 Před 3 lety

      @@AKhair-fc6pm
      It seems for you that the main stream of Muslims “the Sunni “ are misguided and you the Hadith rejectors are the one who figured Islam out .
      For you I have one question only : how do you do Umrah based only on Information from Quran ?

  • @Pcs.Surveillance.10
    @Pcs.Surveillance.10 Před 2 lety +4

    Quranist make 100% sense you can feel the clearness on every response that he gives

    • @deechonada
      @deechonada Před rokem

      akhi don't make conclusions based on how convinced someone sounds of themselves

  • @azisilatjourney1562
    @azisilatjourney1562 Před 3 lety +1

    Al-Quran dan Hadis

  • @RedGorillaLFC
    @RedGorillaLFC Před 3 lety

    Looooooool as sooon as megamind saw shamsi he shat himself 🤣🤣🤣😂