Brexit: Could Scotland back independence to stay in the EU? - BBC Newsnight
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- Newsnight explores how #Brexit could impact the union between Scotland, England, Wales and Northern Ireland.
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Newsnight begins a series looking at the four corners of the UK and exploring how questions of identity and nationhood are being shaken and reshaped by the EU referendum result.
UK editor Katie Razzall reports from Scotland.
Produced by Mihret Yohannes.
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EU to UK: We Are Stronger Together.
UK to EU: NO
UK to Scotland: We Are Stronger Together.
Scotland to UK:..
Franz Papai
EU TO UK let’s have a free trade agreement
U.K. to Eu ok
EU we want to control everything
U.K. where’s this going
EU don’t worry we will be able to sort everything for everyone and get better trade deals as we are many
U.K. hmmm
EU we will get you to do what we say ,make laws, tell you who you can let in your country
U.K. hold on
EU nato has kept peace for 60 years, we don’t need them anymore we need our own forces,and yours, and you will take refugees and immigrants as we say, pay what we decide for goods, you will also pay more then everyone apart from Germany
U.K. WTF this isn’t what we agreed we ain’t sure we agreed to this ,we need to ask the people
EU ok
U.K. the people voted leave
EU you will have to leave there’s no stopping it now article 50 has started deal or no deal you leave 29 March 2019 two years of negotiations
U.K. there’s no deal Parliament won’t pass the surrender act
Eu we give extension have another referendum it’s worked across EU zone before
U.K. yes we agree our people are thick as shit
EU how’s it going
U.K. I’m not in power hold tight , we will get some patsy to take the fall😂😂
EU come on just agree sign it all away
U.K. it ok you’re dealing with Boris , bit of a idiot 😂😂😂
EU wtf you said he was bumbling fool, a idiot, a patsy, he won’t agree to our demands,
U.K. no no no no , it’s a democracy thing, sorry we cannot agree to your demands, we will accept the no deal
EU is there any back stabbing shit weasels , traitors we can deal with?
U.K. we will keep sovereignty and control of our island and seas ,money ,who we let in , how we measure stuff and weigh it, we had the safest electrics and building sites in the world , don’t need your standards , our health system , housing system, social care and hm armed forces before EU
EU WE NEED MORE BACKSTABBING PEOPLE, COWARDS, TREASON PLOTTERS , saga goes on
Scotland to England we are skint bankrupt , England the king was l like Scotland nice place in 1707
England to Scotland we will bail you out , and you will join the U.K.
U.K. to Scotland, you get protection under our flag, you get our trade post ,colonies and empire, we need to protect your shores as we are sick of you letting everyone in to attack England,
Scotland to England ok you want scotland, England no keep it Scottish 👍🏻
U.K. to Scotland we need ports education ,hospitals , and your own army
YEARS LATER
U.K. to Scotland we need rail networks, motorways, nhs, council housing, social care system, schools ,for the people
Scotland to U.K. bastards your destroying our fields
U.K. to Scotland we need to try and align you with the rest of U.K.
Scotland to U.K. you feckin what
Scotland to U.K. you force your ways and lifestyle on us bastards
U.K. to Scotland it’s ok we will pay
Scotland to U.K. we want a Parliament
U.K. to Scotland 👍🏻 ok
Scotland to U.K. we want out we want a referendum
U.K. to Scotland ok
Scotland to U.K. we lost the referendum we want another and another and another and another saga goes on
We are the strongest ye southern softies.
Now grab this pint of piss while I have a proper drink
Kam Singh you drink your tiger beer is it , you are the man , so strong 💪🏻, your name sounds more Indian😂😂😂👍🏻 Sri Lanka,,is south of India there not soft you know
@@richardtruthconquersall9226 i drink scotch. And I don't kiss the glass like little Englander softies, then babysit the same shot for hours.
Well...
Scotland 🏴 we in Europe 🇪🇺 are with you...💪
Hilmar
Hilmar, mind your own business.
keegan773 ...
Dear Madam...🇪🇺
Thank you for your kind reply...🇪🇺
Spending so much time and effort from your limited intellectual Resources, must be quite the burden.🇪🇺
I am glad and feel very privileged to have read your well thought answer...🇪🇺
And YES of course I am minding my own business, thank for sharing...🇪🇺
Greetings from Europe🇪🇺
@@erhardt1477 Fuck off
Alexander thegreat ...
keegan773 ...
Dear Madam...🇪🇺
Thank you for your kind reply...🇪🇺
Spending so much time and effort from your limited intellectual Resources, must be quite the burden.🇪🇺
I am glad and feel very privileged to have read your well thought answer...🇪🇺
Greetings from Europe🇪🇺
@@erhardt1477 FUCK OFF mind your own business, you're not British, it's got nothing to do with you
Brexit solution:
England can leave the United kingdom...
As we have already established in 2014 leaving the UK would automatically mean leaving the EU but the successor state/remains of the UK would remain in the EU... so England gets Brexit and they don't drag the rest of us out when they go....
haha England owns the uk
Wales voted for Brexit too - so the UK will be Scotland and N.Ireland? Lol.
Steven Gruber it will be England and wales
@@James-gh5ie not if they left... its not going to happen but if England voted to be an independent state then the UK would still exist in a revised form... England just wouldn't be part of it anymore... It's exactly the same principle as Scotland leaving... only a different formation remaining on the field afterwards.
@@NHEFF09 and there is 1 of the reasons Scotland wants to go independent.
Fuck you
Sincerely
🏴
I can tell you, I voted to stay in the union but would totally change my vote for independence, if I get the changes too. I would rather stay in the EU.
We wish you'd just get your independence and go, we're sick of your bitchin, love England....
The vote is coming, the paperwork is going through HR now.
Good riddance.
You have an economy the size of Greece’s and a population of 5 million. The EU would chew you up and spit you out.
Casper Wallace the SNP need permission for Westminster. You had your vote. Stop your bitching.
I'm English and support Scottish independence. They have a very european history. Where as English History has always been the odd one out. Good luck Scots!
Good luck with the Euro and enjoy your Army conscription
@@ronaldbostock6121 Ronald the Euro is steady since the Brexit Referendum while the £ has been in steady decline. I've lost £7K in exchange rates in 3 years. And it's about to crash if Boris has his way. Wait till you book your next holiday in Ibiza, you'll see. As for conscription, what do you mean? Scottish regiments have never been short of recruits. If you think conscription is a European thing, and I think you mean National Service, it's not in every country (e.g. Germany) and in those where it remains you can do hospital work or community work instead. Maybe not a bad thing for the me me me selfie generation.
@@barryolaith "me me me generation"? Oh, you mean the same generation that are about to have their future flushed down the toilet by entitled baby boomers? Ok.
@@ronaldbostock6121 Another ignorant who thinks that countries joining the EU must get the Euro. Do yourself a favour and look-up Sweden, and see what currency they use, and why. That said, maybe Scotland would be happy to get away from the £. As for army conscription, what army?
@@jamiehole2621 Perhaps then you don't know English history as well as you think. Might I suggest you consider and read-up on why England is the "auld enemy" and France and Scotland the "auld alliance".
Stand with Scotland, support from Hong Kong !
Tiocfaidh ar la
@Big Neebur Google it
@Big Neebur u seem very smart
@Big Neebur it was sarcasm u spastic, not English if u haven't noticed u sap
@Big Neebur not Scottish m8 I'm irish,
Dont think u fully understand what tiocfaidh ar la means. It's not a football chant or whatever u think it is, it means that some day our country will become whole agein and taken back from the British invaders that took the north from us and by the looks of it I'd say in the next 5 or 10 years the north will rejoin the south due to the uks incompetence and by neglecting NI
Let the Scots decide for themselves.
@Paul Boobier Why would the whole of the UK vote on whether or not Scotland should be independent, such a ridiculous statement, the people of Scotland are sovereign.
@Paul Boobier
"The whole UK should vote on it..."?
No, it should not. If there is the slightest truth in the claim that the UK is a union of equals, then Scotland, and ONLY Scotland, votes on whether Scotland wants to stay. And the other parts of the UK have to accept that. Unless you are proposing that Scotland should be forced to stay...?
If your spouse decides to divorce, you do not get a vote as to whether they have to stay...
"Not suprised that the BBC managed to only find Scots who dont want to leave the EU"?
The reality is that Scotland voted, decisively, to Remain in the EU. The presenter did state that even in the Borders, which has, historically, been very pro-Union, they could only find ONE person who was willing to defend that Union on camera.
The reality is that a lot of Scots are bloody angry that having voted against independence, because they were told that that was the only way to guarantee EU membership, they now see themselves being dragged out of the EU by English nationalists...
The UK has a life expectancy of less than ten years. Brixit will destroy it.
@Paul Boobier You are Kidding where were you during the Indie referendum? The BBC Bias towards the Union was blatant. Tell me if you see the 250,000 marching through Edinburgh for Indie 2 on Saturday the 5th of October on the BBC.
@Paul Boobier The whole of the E.U. should have got a vote on whether Westminster left the E.U. or not then eh.
Not. Because the whole EU didn't vote on brexshit but have to deal with it. So only the Scots have the right to vote on their independence and the Brits "shut up" and deal with it. How does that feel?
Hong Kong supports Scottish independence, long live freedom
I support Scottish Independence they are a drain on England.
@@compoturn1029 Yet that doesn't make sense......... Boris won't mitigate a second bedroom but you think they will mitigate a whole country............man, did you not pay attention at school
@@casperwallace9685 sorry disagree I'm born in Scotland and proud say 100% British and now with Coronavirus Scotland would be bankrupt pathetic attitude and I be again with the No campaign.
Thank you Hong Kong, international support means much to us
@@bobbymacniven9872 who gives a dam what Hong Kong things there cant vote over here .
It is easy to love Scotland and the Scottish people. Hope you will be back in the European Union ASAP!
Seriously thinking of moving to Scotland before it's too late.
We have 8% of the population , 3o% of the land , we also have 1oo% Scottish whisky, salmon, highland water, beef , lamb, oil,65% of gas , electricity , coal , 70% of the fish caught in the North Sea is landed in Scotland we have 26% renewable energy ect , not bad considering we are only 8% of the entire uk population , but Westminister collects all the money just now including taxes , but we are trying to get away from westmonster elite they are all greedy , but you would be welcome here bring some nice ppl with you ( no racists ) you will see we are good ppl , if you like it you could stay
Errrrrmmmm you realize that if the UK leaves the EU then Scotland will not be in the EU either whether it stays within the UK or not?
@@greeny202ab of course we do lol we are well aware of all the pros and cons of both unions , and to remain in the EU was the only reason we remained in the UK , but this not going like Westminister thought it would , so we will leave the UK ,
@@trishadick3786 But if you leave the UK then you will lose everything that you say is so good about being in the EU - larger economy, bigger home market, higher wages etc. It is impossible for Scotland to remain in the EU now as the UK has voted to leave, do you really want to be a country of 4.6 million people with no trade deals with anyone and trying to negotiate trade deals around the world without subsidies from England?
How would you even go about trying to set up a trade deal with your biggest trading partner - England when you are running a financial deficit? What will your trade line be, just sell us your cheap goods and we will send you free Haggis?
Look at everything bad the remain side has said about the UK leaving the EU and an independent Scotland will get ten times worse.
@@trishadick3786 : You forgot to mention that you have 35% of the Uk's alcoholics and 65% of those people with an IQ under 100.
Independent Scotland and a United Ireland ✊
And Wales?
And England
@@superduper9357 when Scotland leaves for good. England will be very weak you will not have the mite of the Scottish army fact
Ireland history is being whitewashed out by your comments...,
@@TheWrensHouse ta brón orm?
Scotland voted by 62% to remain in the EU. They have already chosen.
So? London voted 60% remain, and Brighton voted 68% remain. But the country as a whole voted leave.
So we are leaving.
@@bossendenwoodconvict England is much bigger than Scotland therefore it is obvious that the English's opinions are more valuable than ours. But tbh whether we voted remain or not our opinions would be pushed away and ignored.
@@darcimcghee5411 Not true. If you are Scottish you are far more likely to become British Prime Minister, or lead a political party. For example 5 out of !0 of the most recent Lib Dem leaders have been Scottish.
As for Labour we have had Blair and Brown.
For the Tories, Cameron and May were both of Scottish descent.
@@blackphilip8936 Correct. Can you imagine the reaction of Scottish Nationalists IF REMAIN had won,
BUT, leavers came out with argument "We should have another referendum because Wales voted Leave, or Cornwall voted leave?" They would be outraged, and they would be even more outraged if the U.K. as a whole had voted remain but were required to vote again on the basis that England had voted leave.
We are all equal. English, Welsh, Northern Irish and Scottish people have ONE vote, of equal value.
@@bossendenwoodconvict
London and Brighton are not a country.
Independence of Scotland, support from Poland
fiucik1 Niepodlegla Szkocja to glupota
@@OK-im6mc Niepodległa Szkocja to idealne państwo do życia.
Twoja kolej...
@Olwydd Well, not every nation can be lazy cunts, sorry mate...
Tak, kurwa! Niepodległa Szkocja!
none of your business
Up an independent Scotland 🏴, love from Ireland x
But you don't want a united Ireland right? Double standards.
@@bradavon Whit! Scotland isn't spilt.
Alex McCaffrey Well, if it was to happen I wouldn’t be against it, but I think now is not the right time. It would be an immense cost for Ireland and I feel like it is too tense at the moment, but I would definitely like to see it in the future!
Roku thanks babes x
@@bradavon What exactly is so united about the UK?
This is the reason why Scotish are my favorite people... :*
Thanks
Am in scotland
Toast a wee dram (whiskey) to you my friend 🏴👌🏻
England's dead, Wales is still tugging its forelock at Westminster. Long live Scotland and United Ireland!
Gain independence to then join the EU as a insignificant member. Only to be used politically to annoy the English. Good way to degrade yourself there.
Long live to both indeed.
Jack what the fuck is in your brain you mong. Regardless of how much EU workers rights protect the north of England which we've established Westminster will never ever do if it's not kept in check ( THATCHER).... who the fuck are you to want "sovereignty and independence" from the EU , both things you were never lacking, a log with the crazy amounts of freebies the UK got from the EU (no euro, no Shengen, special veto powers) to then bitch and moan to a Scot about their actual need for independence and their referendum result being ignored????? Sorry weren't you for democracy??? You hypocrite
What qualifies your allegations that your insignificant to England and or London, I live in London and love and respect all parts of Britain!
Why are you determined to destroy the greatest country the world has ever seen over paranoid delusions, also every country must have one capital geographically which is geographically closer than most other countries outer regions / states
Can you come out of that keltic mist in the clouds and explain this bizarre nonsense but your probably just an enemy infiltrator from Ireland / bot from Russia China.!!!
@Chester clarke Leaving the EU is a terrible idea how is it going to make anything better including the economy when we are disadvantaged with our nearest neighbours and immigration will be worse as they won't come from Europe who we have ties with but from India and Africa with our treasonous genocidal establishment.
Explain to me how leaving the EU will make anything better without claiming our government will do better which they have proven they won't which is why we are in this situation with the economy!
This from England. Please please please vote for independence. Please.
Harsh, but true, and I'm Scottish!!
Why?
Reality check. The only parts of the UK that are positive providers to the exchequer ( and not just neutral or negative) are London, Essex, and er...Scotland. We also lose much of the drinking water for the bloated South East if Wales goes. Wales has gone from 15% wanting UDI just last year to 40% now!
The various nations of the British Isles should be independent but within a confederation of limited pooled sovereignty in which no one nation has supremacy over the others. Although I am Irish I can't for the life of me understand how the various Celtic nations of the British Isles seek to sever ties with England a country they have strong cultural and blood ties with only to follow a path of ceding more power to Brussels bureaucrats. Either a united Ireland or an independent Northern Ireland within a confederation of the home nations of these islands out of the EU would also solve any issue around the Irish border. ardevine.blogspot.com/2018/02/why-good-friday-agreement-will-never.html?m=1
@@richardsmith2825 You are right most of the english on here don't know what there talking about and that goes for the UK and the EU
The time has come for an independent Scotland 🏴and a united Ireland 🇮🇪
Leighton Cooke , While your still part of the EU there is no independence !
What’s the matter with you ?
Dave , No don’t real family members don’t give up on each other !
@@MegaTRUTH007 well I love Scotland,have many friends up there,I urge you to take a real good look at what you are saying ,you don't get to go in for free you know,England has been paying in 39 billion a year for the pleasure of been ruled by them been your share too as a united kingdom so please be careful what you wish for canny Scots oh one of the rules you cannot sell Wonkie Carrots or straight cucumbers I kid you not xxxxx
why would a proud Scot want to be under English rule? The English look down about the Scots. The English make fun of you, act like you can't stand on your own, that you are are broke losers and that no one would want to take you. Then, I wonder, if you English hate the Scots so much then why do you want to keep the Scots shackled? Guess it's all abou the oil fields and British superiority complex of not wanting to lose more of their "empire".
May the Science be with You
I find I ask Scots about why they want to stay with England they start talking about the Empire. And I’m like the Empire!? That shit ended decades ago.
Independent Scotland, reunited Ireland. Maybe even an independent Wales.
Brexit solved. Oh and Good Riddance England
@Third Eye
Empire where the sun never sets --->
Land where the sun doesnt shine...
Yes good luck to you do.....we'll build a wall and good riddance to you lot......also good luck when krankies's SNP makes Scotland a haven for every 3rd world "Asylum" seeker .....and good luck when you can't scrounge from us any more ............ BTW it was the Scottish King James sixth/first who united the British crown and the Stuart Queen Anne who ruled during the act of Union.......Scotland was broke after their failed colonisation of the Darian area of Central America and after the union English colonies became British colonies and cosquently Scotland boomed through trade........more Scots than English wanted the Union per-capita,,,,,,,,good luck braveheart
@Third Eye You must mean the first country to ban the slave trade (and enforce it).......standing alone for two years against the nazis in europe.......bannning female infanticide, suttee and FGM in the colonies.......those sort of crimes eh?.....perhaps you should learn some history "mate"......and get that chip off your shoulder
Third Eye 2003? That’s post colonialism and acts endorsed by NATO, and primarily committed by the US. Theft in our colonies? No shit, every single empire that has contributed to the progress of the world has committed bad acts; Rome, the mughals, ottomans, China, Germany, France, Spain and the Dutch. But look what we gave them as consideration- electricity, locomotion, Liberty of press, trade agreements, medicine, steel, running water need I say more. The famine in Ireland’s main cause was their absolute reliance on a single type of potato for food, the Benghal famine had many causes. Local mismanagement by Indian authorities, huge overpopulation, successive failed Harvests, and finally a scorched earth policy employed by Burma corps in WW2. On the last point, note it was necessary to stop japan rolling into India committing mass genocides, and worked very well.
@@kiwikiwi7375 well said the other guy is a wanker he got nothing better to do than being Anti English
Looking forward to Scottish Independence.
I know they need to show a variety of views but I felt that YES was very underrepresented. They must have hunted hard for the people who oppose it.
Yea, it's BBC anyway, so they want to keep the union together.
Support for an independent Scotland, from Poland!!
Why do people say this? It isn't up to you it's up to the Scottish people
@@thatsmadcrazy8953 He's simply showing support, we're running the marathon for independence and hes our support on the sidelines.
Thank you......... 😂😂😂😂😂👍👍👍👍👍🏴
@@TidusDX Yeah such a good idea to ruin your country and join the German and French ran union
Protest for a more fair and equal government not something that would forever sideline your nation
Why don't split Poland
I agree let the jocks stay it’s about time we had an independent England
Michael Allen: If the Scots are "jocks" are you a "limey"?
MICHAEL ALLEN I agree...let the Ingurlish also vote SNP....Jobzagoodun !
@welsh brexiteer lol remember your farming will be f..ked in a no deal brexit and are you too scared to run your own country you need a foreign country to run you lazy lot
@welsh brexiteer TEE HEE HEE.....and thank gawd you're welsh....an obsequious nation...a nation in name only...to whom the english only need to throw a rugby ball as they come out of chapel.....and the trodden-on taffies forget their national self respect and lick the Ingurlish 4rses...like they have done for centuries.
Now...if thats keeping the taffies happy, let them fill whatever boots the english give them...but just don't judge scots by YOUR cowardly, supine lack of any REAL pride....you dumbfcuk Boyo !
@@robertmcclair1810 : The UK is Scotlands biggest trading partner by far. Your country has little to offer the UK, even with North sea oil...and is currently a drain on UK finances :
"Scotland cuts its deficit, but is still outspending the UK"
www.theguardian.com/business/2018/aug/22/scotland-cuts-its-deficit-but-is-still-outspending-the-uk
Like the pigs at the start, reminds me of Westminster
That's degrading d pig's mate
If it was sheep it would represent the cultist Nats.
Finally some Scottish coverage!
@@NeightrixPrime it does thats why we wil choose again
@Silent Majority wow read the facts Scotland subsides England, why do you think they fought to keep Scotland.... Seriously you know nothing
@Silent Majority please do start something down your end as that would help us loads honestly and think how better off you will be once you ditch us they believed farage and bojo
@@vincentmonaghan8905 yeah I can see how that works 5.5 million subsidies 55 million makes sense to me now
@@anthsmith5693 yawwnnnnn
If they want to go let them have a referendum :D
We should make it difficult for them though
Joe did the EU make it hard for the UK to have a referendum ?
Why are you brexiters so detached from reality ?
We could rebuild that beautiful wall make the Welsh pay for it.
@@gethcreator751 yeah be a f..king dictator
@joe caterman dictator english
Absolutely support Scottish independence, it's about time they got out of the UK.
if only muslim countries could have your point of view about democracy and human rights instead of letting millions of their citizens emigrate to Europe, North America and Australia ...
@@aligattor2639 thats your only one valid poit... it kinda sucks tho... Scotland ll get independence for sure
Im Scottish and it's really not
@@artemisha7467 Are you Scottish?
Why do people say this? It's not up to you it's up to the Scottish people
Freedom for Scotland!
Xiao-Rong Peng YES
From the E.U.?
@@bossendenwoodconvict Stay with EU
They are free now thanks!
dirty baby killer
England, Wales, Northern Ireland aren't equal partners. The government is entirely London thinking.
Yes their not treated fairly Wales Northern Ireland and Scotland have their own parliament Would be classed as racist if we had the English National Party
@@georgemoore4139 more than likely. There was the British National Party who were er. racist.
@Prime Minister how is it equal if Singapore left?
@Prime Minister Yes. Did you see the question? You've not answered it. Your point is an odd one. 4 equal countries, one left :-/
@Prime Minister I'm confused what relevance your posts have to do with Scottish independence or don't they? I'm aware Malaysia used to be a British colony.
To me it’s a choice of being ruled and shafted by the right wing ERG or becoming Independent.
I’d choose Independence.
The ERG will shaft all workers, zero hours contracts, tax haven for the rich, public services slashed, divisive policies.
How come small countries like Finland, Belgium, Denmark, Iceland manage just fine, I’m sure we could be like them.
Exactly. Brexit is for the rich and by the rich. It cannot help ordinary people who will face job losses and higher prices as well as travel and work restrictions. Go Scotland! I won't blame you! With love from stupid Brexit England x
@@outlawJosieFox remain arguement
You do realise that the EU are scared shitless we are leaving, they know we will be fine after Brexit
I agree also the right wing Torys are a threat to the National Health Service. They and there neoliberal think-tanks do not believe in the National Health Service and public services. They want small state, private services and low taxes. The privatisation of the NHS has already begun especially in England they would Finnish the job in a trade deal with Trump's USA allowing private American drug companies access to the NHS.
That after 9 years of cut's and austerity by the Torys for public services.
@
Arthur Fnshelby
To be honest, the EU is dominated by right wing parties and financial elites as well.
Independence would probably be good for Scotland, but I wouldn't put much trust on the EU as it currently stands.
As for the SNP, I wouldn't be surprised to see it turn to the right after independence, it's what all established parties end up doing after a while... especially if they're in control of an independent nation. Take a look at Labour (and the rest of "traditional" socialist parties in Europe), they've become just another brand of right wing.
Goreuncle agree with your there, sad how all promises from politicians of all sides turn when it suits them. Been on this planet too long not to have noticed!
Leave the uk! With or without a deal though?
watch out for that cliff edge...wouldn't want to crash out now would you :)
As part of the European Union with which England have to make a deal.
@joe caterman Are the English really so arrogant as to believe that? The EU holds all the cards in any negotiation. Even moreso when Brexit brings about the disintegration of the UK.
@@RedXlV English? You mean the UK? And the EU do not hold all the cards, its just our parliament has spend 3 years showing our cards to the EU.
@@benowen8321 If you guys get your hard Brexit that you seem to want so badly, it's not going to *be* a UK anymore. How can it be the "United Kingdom" if Scotland and possibly also Northern Ireland leave?
And yes, the EU does hold all the cards in the negotiation. The UK needs Europe far more than Europe needs the UK.
And I said English because it's the English who forced Brexit through. The Scots and Irish didn't want it.
If we leave the EU, Northern Ireland, Wales & Scotland should all join together & make theyre own union
Wales voted leave
Well shit
@@fluvirus
"Wales voted leave"?
That vote was over three years ago, and was heavily influenced by the large number of immigrants(retired English voters).
All polling evidence shows that Wales, as a country, has very definitely changed its mind.
Don't believe polls, and you carn't speak for all wales. guess the election will show what wales wants.
@@fluvirus
"Don't believe polls..."? .
Typical Brixiteer response; deny reality.
"...and you carn't speak for all wales"?
I never claimed to "...speak for all wales." I simply look at the available evidence and draw my conclusions from the evidence. There is very strong evidence that public opinion in Wales has shifted to a Remain majority.
"guess the election will show what wales wants"?
This is the only area where we are in agreement.
I Scotland loves the EU so much then let them have their vote (again) and then leave with our blessings 😎
@kroooassant Lol Fukkwit ^^
btw, when do you break-up from school for your next school holidays :)
MIKE Och aye..Thatsa belter of an idea that no scot would turn down....well, apart from the Orange Lodge nutters that is !
@@dave506 So why then is the Westminster government telling us that we need to ask for ' their permission" before we can vote on it ?
Can you imagine the reaction if the EU had told the brits in 2016 that THEY needed to ask for permission for that referendum?
Why different rules for the scots ?
Mike.....We ask no more than that from our english neighbours !
Independent for Scotland!
yes this is for the scottischs and scottischs ONLY!
From one union to another... What's the point?
@@Lord_Reeves It's from one union to another union. There is no other angle. Stop kidding yourself.
No
Independence of Sccotland.
Support from 🇦🇷
Support Scotland from Hongkong, free Scotland!
Let the Scots decide.
@@jude4955 Thats because the people are so dumb and brainwashed so that they havent got a clue as to what is really going on and if you Google Paisley Expressions and the Jesus, Hitler and Wizard of Oz post on there just now you will find out - part 2 soon is really going to expose even more.
@@jude4955 I have a 2 year old Scottish Terrier and even he's not proud of being Scottish anymore due to the SNP rubbish coming from Holyrood.
john a
They had their once in a lifetime referendum a couple of years ago and voted to stay.
@@keegan773 we are an entire sovereign country so what we want is more important to us than what the English want tbh and we are a democratic nation where our ppl are sovereign and we will choose again thats democracy
trisha dick
You can't have a 'Once in a lifetime' referendum every couple of years just because Sturgeon is having another whinge.
It would be very wise to see how Brexit works out BEFORE considering yet another indyref.
You might well be surprised. It's got to be better that gaining independence from the UK and handing it over to the unelected bureaucrats in Brussels .
As a Scot who doesnt live there in a long time Im rather surprised to hear two Scottish people mention that they dont want to leave England as if they belong to England rather than the UK.
they believe they are owned lol
Well I guess it does in a manner of speaking, it's the bigger economy. Bit like the the UK belonging to Germany. (to a degree) Unpalatable, but true you could argue.
It’s as if wales and Northern Ireland don’t exist no one talks like that in England it’s England wales Scotland and NE
@joe caterman You mean Scottish and N. Ireland GDP is too tiny?
@@dank2532 Don't really understand what your saying there.
Here's an idea: Scotland gets independence and stays in the EU. Ireland unites. Build a friendship bridge or undersea tunnel between Ulster and Scotland.
Lots of love to our Celtic brethren; from Ireland!
Officially titled “the road to nowhere”
@@nickrad6966 no, that's just Brexit in a nutshell.
@@A_annoying_rodent No, that's joining the Euro and a debt union in a nutshell.
@@nickrad6966 I don't think you got what I meant, since 2016 nothing is moving, you had your deal by the end of 2018 and we should no longer have worried about brexit since march but since you guys keep screwing around and can't just take the deal or hard brexit, you are delaying it now even further! I wanted you guys out since march! You are by now just dead weight, it's unfair that you still have a voice in the european parlamiant and block the ideas we could have pushed through if you would have left by now!
@@A_annoying_rodent nikos a wanker!
Support from Wales 🏴❤️🏴
Dump Wales now the parasites!
@@compoturn1029 well fuck you too then
In the next so-called Indy2, can us English have a vote? Should the Scots leave the UK? Think you might be shocked at the response!
While at it, let's also have a vote in Europe to see how many would want England to leave. That would be a good laugh.
Did you give EU a vote on if you could leave EU ?
Bye Felicia 🏴 🤣👌🏼 Polls consistently now showing support for independence without even campaigning for it. So your help not required but thanks for the offer 🏴👌🏻
And eu will present the sweetest welcome back deal they can, postscission
@Zoey Lowlands do you honestly think, when the uk leaves and scotland actually get independants, the EU would have you hahahahaha deluded
@Zoey Lowlands lol you call the English twats and make out you know what you're talking about when you're from the Netherlands 😂😂😂 pure stupidity
@Zoey Lowlands do you honestly think scotland will be able to rejoin the EU when the UK leaves 😂
@@felixltd26
Scotland, which has much of the fishing grounds the EU would lose by brexit?
Welcome to the EU!
@@felixltd26 Of course Scotland will be able to rejoin the EU, it's comical to suggest otherwise.
Does anyone know which pub is that in Edinburgh?
Looks like: The Bailie, on St Stephens Street
Once Scotland has left the UK, the UK Supreme Court will have to respect English and Welsh common law instead of Scottish civil law.
If Scotland leave, Wales will closely behind. Cymru Rydd 🏴
Very good point
independence of Scotland, support from Hong Kong
Hong Kong independence support from Scotland
@@ryanlaird6447 Hong Kong only exists because of the British.
Hong Kong and Zimbabwe provide lessons of what happens when British influence lessens.
It would be unlikely that someone from Hong Kong would support an anti-British movement like the SNP.
Another wu mao Chinese bot, you really think your going to get support by promoting the destruction of Britain the mother country that gave hong kong it's freedoms it's fighting for!
Explain what you know about the UK that justifies supporting it's destruction!!!
@@user-vm4wx8eb4s A lot of these comments purporting to come from Hong Kong
are actually from China. Of course it would be in CHINESE interests to support the destruction of The U.K.
But it is NOT in the interests of the people of Hong Kong. I support Independence for Hong Kong, and the Union of the British.
Yes look how there Independence is going roots every day
Scotland goes independent, becomes part of EU then Ireland moves all its traffic to Europe through Scotland instead of England. EU gives hefty grant to improve cross Scotland road ways and ports. That's my prediction
Yeah and Scotland will win the World Cup
Cymru Rydd 🏴
will Scotland join Ireland in the EU ????
Yes as an independent country
Nice to see a farmer who isn't a Tory
That doesn't make him wise.
Rebuild the wall make the Welsh pay for it.
Fucking prick English can off
someone said the Scots should pay lol we would each carry a brick to the border , one man said before we knew it ppl where willing to fill their cars , vans ect with bricks to drive to the border lol would have looked like the great Wall of Scotland lol
Wales is the only country in Europe that's in the black. we bring in 4 billion pounds a year and sell 8 billion pounds. Wales has 2000 years of coal left that we can sell and we sell to the English 4 billion pounds a year of water ( if we got independence) it would be our water . Wales being a poor country is crap propaganda be the English for the last 800 years. And 80.000 unemployed in Wales and 40.000 on sick what they don't tell you is that 35 000 unemployed and 15.000 on sick in Wales are English migrants who have left London to live in Wales. If we got independence we could kick out 50.000 people straight away. 26% of council flats and houses in Wales are occupied by English people. It would be ok if these English people were doctors or nurses or teachers but they are not they are all unemployable and all on benefits and most are illiterate and on drugs and sex offenders. Wales is the sick man of Europe because we take other countries shit mainly Englands shit
@@gwynwilliams4222 you are one of only a few colonies left for us to pillage. Sit tight until we rinse Wales fully. You can have your barren hills and emanciated sheep back then.
@@kamsingh3260 gwan
Good for them, Scottish independence i support, spoken by an Englishman who will be asking for refugee status in a few years time
A lot of people who support independence are English. I had somebody tell me I was not a real Scot because I don't.
no need to be a refugee, just move here you are welcome
@@lindawarwick8643 your not
feel free to move here we have loads of space 3× more than our population and we have more oil than kuwait although westminister collects all money from our vast resources right now independence will bring more benefits to the population of Scots
Oil is a bonus, who said this our First Minister when the oil price took a dive and oil workers were losing their jobs and everybody was worried how that would affect the economy in Aberdeen.No empathy from Sturgeon. She couldn't have cared less about that. I told everyone not to depend on North Sea oil at the time of the independence referendum because the price can go way up or way down
if i had to choose, a union to be in which one ? The big one with Europe? Or the little one with England who have already shown they're not really to be trusted
Go join them then we don't give a shit
No competition............really. England has turned into un uneducated bunch of racists.......
Luke Chadwick You may dont, but your country really does care seeing as they won’t let us have a referendum
Scotland wouldn't be independent in the EU it would be a puppet state to Germany and France
@@MrRailways2017 You do know that England has helped the Scottish economy loads recently right?
And btw the EU is a long waiting list and Scotland won't be first in line
And if Scotland gets rejected then the Scottish economy will be in a very bad situation
“We don’t want Brexit, but we want independence... we are breaking apart its the same thing”
No it’s not, we are breaking away from something bigger closing the door on free movement through Europe a single market to what build up trade again with each of these countries individually or even becoming a pawn for the US not a chance. Scotland breaking away from the U.K. gives us a bigger voice in the scheme of things with Europe look how they deal with Ireland have the up most respect for them and stand behind them we don’t get that from Westminster. We never have and since Brexit time and time again it’s been proven Scotland’s voice makes no difference to the runnings of the U.K. parliament they aren’t interested in us for our voice just what we have to offer which is oil and natural resources.
So someone please point out to me how Scotland would not be able to finance itself.
No one actually cares.
Jon Sid what a waste of space.
@@andrewlauder2777 btw - what are those other natural resources?
Jon Sid water, wind power, wave energy and accounts for half of Britain’s farming production.
Why can't England have an independence vote?
Why can't England vote to leave the UK?
Tony that would be quite a twist
Please take us Welsh with you! We stayed loyal!!!
@@evansclan4eva49 You are more than welcome. 👍
SCOTLAND DOESN'T HAVE A HUGE DEFICIT like the borders woman said on this video
10% deficit and there will be no English taxes moving north of the boarder. If its about trade England is a bigger market for Scottish goods and services than the EU
@@superduper9357no its not how on earth can 2 countries buy more than off us than 27 + countries pmsl
@@superduper9357 taxes pmsl your southern gov collects all our taxes omfg you ciearly need educated on what your gov takes off us
@@superduper9357 Don't think so? lol Better check facts again?
@@superduper9357 CLICK THE BLUE macalbasite.wordpress.com/2019/11/01/3-cheers-for-a-scotland-border/
macalbasite.wordpress.com/2019/10/21/scotland-the-hidden-bank-of-the-uk-union/
czcams.com/video/Arv0Mx1S_ho/video.html
Under the EU the economic aid would benefit Scotland where under England Scotland would maintain an uncontrollable economic debt
Like it has for Southern Ireland they have mortgage the pad is up to the hilt.
www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2017/01/scotlands-stolen-seas-technical-explanation/
They know it's the right decision doesn't affect England or Wales Financially. I'm excited and I hope Scotland win the referendum cuz it's coming and it's coming real soon
@Majic C Just as the rest of the UK will be begging to rejoin the EU within 10 years after experiencing the disaster that a no-deal brexit will be. There are no winners in any of this.
@@PersonyPerson That's assuming the EU doesn't collapse within 10 years. Negative interest rates doesn't exactly scream a healthy economy.
@@WhateverMan35 There is nothing to suggest that the EU will collapse within 10 years. Only the UK wants to leave because most of it's population did not understand the implications of leaving and most of them still don't.
@@PersonyPersonYou're right, There is nothing to suggest that the EU will collapse within 10 years apart from the low interest rates (and the continuation of QE), Italy and Greece on the brink of another financial crisis (I hear that the NDP wants to bring back the "glory days" of Greece) and in order to sustain its current rate the EU will need to absorb more countries (now where have I heard that before? It rhymes with the CCCP). But you are right, there is nothing to suggest that the EU will collapse within 10 years apart from the things that I listed.
And you know what? Nobody fucking truly understands the EU. It’s so convoluted as its layers, sub-layers and subsub-layers it needs its own qualification course. You think that you truly know the EU? I call bullshit.
@@WhateverMan35 Greece collapsing financially was it's own fault, since they massively overspent on what their economy was capable of sustaining. Same with Italy to an extent. Economic troubles in a couple of member states does not mean it will cause a ripple effect on the rest of the EU. You also don't seem to understand how negative interest rates work, since you somehow think it is synonymous with economic collapse. The EU does not simply "absorb" countries, since they have to fit certain criteria in order to join it. But I am glad you came to the conclusion that there is no evidence of the EU collapsing, because there really is none.
Just because you don't understand the EU does not mean others don't also. I admit I do not know about every single aspect of the EU, but know more than others as you have just demonstrated.
If there is a no deal brexit the silver lining will be a reunited Ireland and an independent Scotland.
Will you stay in the Commonwealth or become a republic?
Prefer republic. Be the healthiest thing to have happened on this island all nations making decisions for their own people.
🤔 Rather interesting question, it would be unlikely that the Scottish decide to be independent and at the same time a realm in which the queen Elizabeth II or her heir be their Head of State, Kingdom of Scotland (or Commonwealth of Scotland) versus Republic of Scotland. In a given case Scotland would continue as an independent monarchy with a king of the Windsor royal household, then at least nominally, the term 'United Kingdom(s) of the Great Britain and Northern Ireland' would continue having sense. I am saying very improbable (and silly) ideas but maybe a solution were to split the UK just into two parts: a Kingdom encompassing the regions which prefer to stay in the EU such as Scotland, Northern Ireland, Gibraltar and including Bristol, Manchester, Oxford and London as special districts within, and another Kingdom with the regions keen on leaving the EU, and at the end at least nominally both would continue comprising the UK. Unfortunately now all seems to indicate that after more than 300 years, Brexit will tear the Union appart, opinions are polarised in extreme. Hope the UK solve their domestic and foreign problems in the best possible way 🇬🇧🇬🇮🇧🇲🏴🏴🏴
SirAntoniousBlock. Becoming independent from the UK has nothing to do with who is the monarch.
Yes, well I guess the British monarchs have been as appreciated as the Habsburg were for all their "subjects" from so dissimilar nations, and for long time until the Great War. Anyway, the Holy Roman Empire or the Byzantine Empire, they both lasted almost one millennium and they no longer exist. If, after being united during around 300 years and even ruling an empire too, Great Britain splits into different republics (as the Habsburg monarchy) and I guess the kingdom of England, the world will continue turning around the Sun, would it be a pity? Only time will tell
But what does Scottish independence mean? Is it soft independent or hard independent?
@joe caterman Surely nobody wants No deal independent.
Mike, If you can't even admit that the UK is presently independent, how would you know ?
N xarigo, there won't be when NI. And Ireland are reunified.
[6.28] that's exactly what happened in 2016 if there was a significant change in circumstances like being dragged out the EU against our will. There already is a mandate from the Scottish people so it would be "illegitimate" for Westminster to say we can't have one
Don't you remember the '' Once in a Generation Referendum'' Just how long is a Scottish generation. It was all explained to us by that lovely Alex Salmond.
@@davidboyle2476 the Edinburgh Agreement never mentioned anything about the referendum being once in a generation
the more I listen to the EU debate the more I am inclined to vote out if there's another referendum.
The EU has a long waiting list and Scotland won't be first in line and if Scotland gets rejected it would be in a bad place
England has helped the Scottish economy loads recently and the EU most likely wouldn't had definetly not on the same scale anyway
@Yevi Shenko All I'm saying is that England helps Scotland and Scotland helps England
In the United Kingdom Scotland benefits loads
Scotland joining the European Union is simply a bad idea France and Germany would be Scotland's puppet masters
And the European Union might be losing another powerful, wealthy etc member and that's Italy
In an independent Scotland the Scottish people would be governed by the government that they vote for and not be governed by the government that another country voted for.
If scotty land thinks its better off indepdndant then let them go. But do they remember the "south sea bubble" it didn't end too well for scottyland
Scotland would be wise to adopt a transferable vote system if it achieves independence.
First-past-the-post voting system isn't representative at all.
Some years ago, I read a book describing the final years of the Habsburg Empire. It quoted an Austrian Officer in the Imperial Army who (I paraphrase) described the Empire as being divided into patches, each of which hated the other a little more. Maybe I am a cynic but, increasingly, I think this description aptly surmises the domestic political situation in the United Kingdom and the state of relations between the home countries. This being the case, with all fuzzy nostalgia placed aside, I increasingly struggle to see the point in continuing the Union. The English and Scottish political identities diverged some time ago and have become increasingly opposed to one another. Is reconciliation possible, let alone worthwhile?
Louis Edrof you could say the same about the different States in the US. At least you got to vote to stay U.K. or independent.
The English and the Scots have always been different peoples, but it seems their differences have changed as each country has absorbed aliens and alien thinking.
The Irish found that unlike the Czechs they would not persuade the Irish to speak Gaelic. Only the Welsh have a love of this essential element of a separate nationality. In the Hapsburg Empire, it was quite a different story. Even the Germans were attracted by the German Reich.
@@JRobbySh Your history is all over the place. Also, what 'alien thinking' are you talking about? Are you saying that there are too many English settlers in Scotland? That they pervert us in some way?
Theyve been coming for hundreds of years. It's true that they are a bit funny, a bit different, but they soon settle down. Theyre no bother.
Aliens arent our problem.
The problem has regularly been that we are caught up in 'British' policies and 'British' adventures that we disagree with and which do us harm - but which we are powerless to resist as the very junior and overlooked partner in a union of big and little.
We've come to realise that little is ok.
We don't see the world in the way that the English do anymore. Brexit - especially this rush for a No Deal Brexit by a cabal of right wing fanatics is incomprehensible to many of us.
It's like an English suicide pact - and it's also a fork in the road.
@Louis Edrof I don't think that the Hapsburg analogy is valid.
There's no great hatred of the English in Scotland.
There are no fanatics here who want to blow things up or murder people for a cause.
Its simply that the union drags us into UK policies that we want no part of.
We have regularly been ruled from London by Tory administrators, like colonial viceroys when there have been very few (or not one) Tory member(s) of parliament elected by us.
We have by proxy been forced to become vassals of the US and be the location for all kinds of nuclear weapons that we would rather were sited in Kent and Essex.
We would prefer to remain friends with our neighbours and manage our own affairs.
I think that we also prefer to be European than a small island some way off the coast of America - like Puerto Rico without the weather.
US politics are even more monstrous than UK politics and being taken over by American Empire after Brexit isn't something we look forward to.
Its that simple.
The only folk in the World who dont think Scotland would do very well as an independent country with its situation and resources are in Westminster. Funny that. Oh, and also the folk willing to follow their bizarre line of reasoning.
Only British think Scottish independence is bad and they can't survive.
@@samuelolaogun9044 Scottish are British.
@@samuelolaogun9044 Only the EU think that UK independence is bad and they can't survive.
@@hazzer777 You're thinks the same way or likewise British as well that you can't survive without Scottish, Northern Ireland, Wales. If they get there own independent.
@@samuelolaogun9044 because they live in Great Britain, so they are British, they have British passports. Get it now?
How old is that footage of Boris at the laptop? The laptop looks to be from well over a decade ago.
Before he started to use a Hoover as a hair dryer you mean?
Independence for Scotland and United Ireland
What about the people of Ulster who want to remain British?
Ireland did it, Scotland will too :))
No we won't
Scotland isn't fiercely anti-British as the Irish were. Most Scots see themselves as Scottish and British, because we are British!
Anthony You speak for the few, but not the many
@@MrRailways2017 If that were the case then why did the MAJORITY vote in favour of the union only 6 years ago. Yes things have changed since then, but independence referendums can't keep been called every time the politics change, if that were to happen, we would have an independence referendum every 6 months. Fact is the British union has lasted 300 years and we became a force to be reckoned with together. The EU has only been around since the 70's and we will get through what ever comes which will be small compared to what threatened us in the last 100 years not to mention 300 years!..... I rest my case...
Scotland is the best 😃
The best chance for independence but do not wait before the Brexit starts - then you have to pay the Brexit pice!
Would be great to hear from the average man on the street not just the farmers and butchers... So the woman that was interviewed by the Church talks about Scotlands deficit...Exactly what we have been talking about... That deficit is helped because they are part of the UK which is proping it up... You should get rid of this woman at your next election... she is too focussed on her nicely cut dresses, shoes and bags.. The lights are obviously not on upstairs....
What distinguishes farmers and butchers from being categorised as "average"?
tiny tempa. Your comment more than suggests you think you have a right to tell us what to do, as does many other comments here. Like them, you are unable to see your arrogance, and its one of the key motivators for independence.
@@crose7412 Lets put it this way - when they removed the farmers and butchers from Zimbabwe, the country went into meltdown....
@@volefastacrostheroad You will not be independent. You will trade one union for another.
@@benowen8321 The important thing is, Scotland will decide what it wants to do after gaining independence.
Come on Scotland join Ireland we welcome you
FTS
Celtic union will never happen.. lmao.
@FTS Because that defeats the point of independence and making a union to do with blood is higly problematic and will lead to loads of issues. England is germanic but u dont see everyone demanding a Germanic union
@FTS Im sorry.. lmao the point of Independance wasnt to join a union, its not even talked about in the governments lmao just some weird fantasy ppl want to get back at britian. thats not how politics work mate. just try to educate urself atleast a tiny bit cause its fairly obvious..
@FTS If u dont understand somethings thsy obvious u need a lot more than my input. sos lol
@FTS lmao what? Im not gonna argue with someone who clearly doesnt understand a thing about politics lmao. if u think a celtic union is gonna happen ur gonna be very much dissapointed
It would be really nice to see Scotland and Ireland becoming independent and staying in the EU.
Why? I'm genuinely curious?
because brexit is a fucking mess and is stupid af.
You do know that Ireland is an independent republic in the EU already what I assume you mean is Northern Ireland.
@@Justanothaguy why not? I’m genuinely curious?
@@anglebars6084 Scotland isn’t the best at maintaining it’s own finances, hence why the Independence votes have fallen through twice now. Economically it doesn’t make much sense.
“Free at last, Free at last, Thank God almighty we are free at last.”
Well, the Irish did it over 100 years ago...now their basic social welfare payments are 205 Euro's a week!
They rank 5th in the World for GDP per capita....contrast that for the UK... 26th...
They also are one of the most outward-looking countries in the World...' Paddy's Day ' a great example of expressing nation culture in an inclusive rather than exclusive manner.
Yes, Scotlands best days lie ahead...a proud nation...a new chapter...a voyage of self-discovery awaits...
ikm64 However, it’s not all wonderful here in Ireland. We have a spectacular runaway housing and homelessness crisis which makes homebuying impossible for young or first-time buyers, and traps many people - like me - paying 50% of our wages on rent to US vulture funds. Whatever about GDP per capita, we also owe the most in the world, per capita, following our disastrous Recession and Bailout. Don’t forget that the reason you know much about Ireland is that we were, and are, an emigrant nation, which regularly uses economic migration as a safety valve to send tens of thousands of our young out to all corners of the world in search of work - pure economic migration, of the kind despised by many right wing British and American (and incredibly, even some Irish) pundits. Add in chronic overcrowding at our hospitals, a spectacular lack of hospital beds, a significant dearth in schools, tumbling global rankings for the quality of our universities, and - as much as I dearly love my country, and my people - life here in Ireland is anything but rosy, but relatively harsh and impoverished for many people, especially for renters, or people paying exorbitant childcare costs, etc etc.
Still, at least we don’t hate ourselves like we see happening in Britain now between Leavers and remainers, or like the broken, shattered America across the pond. Thank god for that.
@@vercoda9997
How do you feel about The North and Brexit possibly bringing reunification closer?
@@vercoda9997 Well, that's not exactly the full story, now is it... a lot is true in fairness...but let's take one of your points.
Yes, the media talk about a 'housing crisis' that is true...
But that's only the PC version...The more factual non-PC version is...
There are many people who are not 'required' in the Irish economy.
Low educated, low skilled. people can't afford the ample available housing.
Somehow, I seriously doubt any 'Facebook' employee on 100,000 plus average wage has any difficulty in finding appropriate housing...
Now don't get me wrong here, I'm not proud of a country that can leave any people behind...
But the problem is, leaving people behind in skills and education NOT housing
No rich people are homeless in Ireland! That's a fact, maybe a little un PC Yes but a truth...
Now many of the other points particularly about migration I do concede ... That's Ireland shame, but if you look at the growth in population, Ireland is now experiencing even that well-documented problem seems to be turning around.
Nothing is ever going to be perfect...but been in charge of your own destiny, at least leaves it in your own hands...
ikm64 dream only fool
the Irish are in big economic trouble and next to leave you twit!!!
Oh yes we have a huge deficit here in Scotland.....em there are 5.5 million of us and 55 million English how on earth could we be 50% responsible for this debt?! Honestly that's just insane
czcams.com/video/NoOfXUZj4gM/video.html Its better than that
I think it will be not be a great idea for Scotland having left the EU to then break away from the UK it’s biggest trading partner far bigger than EU. To then go to the EU with a national debt bigger than Portugal and believe that you are going to prosper even if the EU accepts Scotland. It would make sense to wait and find out how the UK gets on outside the EU before making that choice. It might be better to be independent and out the EU. It is strange that the SNP think they speak for all Scotland the EU referendum was a UK wide democratic vote; the SNP seized on the fact that Scotland voted in a majority to remain as grounds for independence. If you think about it independence is a far bigger issue than leaving the EU. The SNP are leading a devolved Government in Scotland are they speaking for those who want to leave the EU or the coastal fishing communities I don’t think they do.
Well said. The EU has damaged Scotland and it's economy more in the last 20 years than England did!
The Toxic Troll needs to step down as leader of the SNP before they'll get my vote again. She has her own agenda and cares not 1 bit about the average Scot.
I mean, we don't even have anyone in the Scottish parliament in the role of foreign relations. how the fuck is that gonna go after independence or perhaps everyone's happy going to the EU doing it for us. I know i'm not
Scotland is rich of gaz and petrol taken by London,
But Scotland have gas and oil so they can dig them self out .but the problem with uk is that the EU 27 stoop by Dublin but Westminster thru northern Ireland under the bus it just shows that eu is gangster
I think it will be not be a great idea for Scotland having left the EU to then break away from the UK it’s biggest trading partner far bigger than EU.
A) Scotland will be back in EU as EU has stated numerous times.
A) England will then be trading with Scotland within EU. If England don't want to trade with Scotland, they you will be crippled within weeks. EU won't trade with England, its one for all in that EU. So that won't happen.
To then go to the EU with a national debt bigger than Portugal and believe that you are going to prosper even if the EU accepts Scotland.
A) Scotland has no debt, its a term by Westminster within the devolution settlement in 1999, they must balance their books. (You guys really need to stop media, its rotting your brain makes you look really dumb)
It would make sense to wait and find out how the UK gets on outside the EU before making that choice.
A) Its nothing to do with what's going to happen to the UK, it's what Scotland wants.
It might be better to be independent and out of the EU.
A) No, no right minded business person walks away from the biggest market on your door step. That's just maddness.
It is strange that the SNP think they speak for all Scotland the EU referendum was a UK wide democratic vote; the SNP seized on the fact that Scotland voted in a majority to remain as grounds for independence.
A) What like Boris speaks for 17 Million when there is 65 Million on these islands.
No that was a political choice by Cameron, there is no such thing as a UK Nation.
He has no mandate in Scotland and neither does Boris. Scotland hasn't voted for a Tory Government for 55 years.
If you think about it independence is a far bigger issue than leaving the EU.
A) No, both are agreed Unions which two nations want to leave.
The SNP are leading a devolved Government in Scotland are they speaking for those who want to leave the EU or the coastal fishing communities I don’t think they do.
a) All regions of Scotland voted to remain in the EU by 62%. The vote doesn't cover industries. But going on history, Tories sold out the fishing industry in the 1970's for a better deal for London. They will do the same again.
Tories want
EU to bend its rules,
Ireland to break its rules.
Scotland now to hand over its rules.
Welcome to Brexit Island.
A fortress of English exceptionalism
Brexit was a vote to take back what we never lost, in order to lose everything we currently have.
Casper Wallace clearly you want to remain in the EU and leave the UK if the UK leaves it, which is still in the balance. But Scotland will not get straight back into the EU. That decision will be for the nation states and normally the EU take a age to sort anything out, look at the Canada trade deal and Turkey which has been the trying to join the EU for years. If Scotland goes back in the EU you will not be keeping your waters you will be back in the treaties so your fishermen will not benefit. By the way Scottish MPs were sitting in London when we joined in 1975. The UK is seeking a free trade agreement with the EU when we leave which will in itself take many years. This could enable Scotland to trade with the world without tariffs so your exports can be more competitive so independence may not be necessary. It will also go some way to alleviating the border issues. However If you are an SNP supporter then you will be seeking independence whatever, even if the UK is doing well out of the EU so discussion and debate is fairly pointless. I don’t think the UK will be a Brexit Island I think it will be deregulating small businesses making them more profitable, our public services will be improved and properly financed, our banks and financial services will be more successful in the long term, I think our fishermen and our fishing stocks will benefit and our food will be grown nearer to where it is consumed so better for the environment. Ultimately food, clothing and footwear will be cheaper outside the EU. As for Scottish debt being written off if it gets independence, I wouldn’t put your house on that one. But only time will tell. I hope Scotland does well whatever the Scottish people decide.
Independence for Scotland
Bye-bye, Scotland. Do you intend to pay for rebuilding Hadrian's Wall? Because the EU will insist on a hard border after England and Wales exit the EU.
@Big Chow The biggest muppets around are in Westminster. We are far better off in the EU than being ignored and ruled by England. What is little England compare to Europe..
@@fwcolb I think Wales will rejoin the EU soon after Brexit too. Wales has so much to lose without the EU. So in the end, it's only little England who will be on their own.
@@fwcolb What has England to offer in return to drag out Scotland against their will out of the single market, freedom ?! That is not freedom, that is ruling Scotland without a say. In the EU all member have a say, there is a big difference. That is not a United Kindom, that is England ruling alone. By the words from Brexiteers, "there is no price for freedom" and the EU is freedom for Scotland
@Big Chow Stop saying you take back control, you guys are in charge of nothing. For years your government has nothing else than to talk about Brexit 24/7
Most people would think that a farm shop sells a locally sourced product. Not from the EU.
Certain items are only in season for a period of time. Once the growing season ends up north, you import from the south.
At 1:40. She says she is closing the gate to stop the pigs escaping....there is no fence.
Well trained pigs.
Clever, thrifty Scott. Train the animals to only go through the gate so you needn't go to the experience and bother of a fence. Well done!
They've got more of a voice than the English (and Welsh?) who voted remain. We've not got the luxury of independence :(.
BREXIT FIGS -
Leave
53.4% England
52.5% Wales
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Remain
62% Scotland
55.8% in NI
96% Gibraltar
England should just vote for its own independence and then leave.
Stop mucking everyone else up.
You do have the luxury of independence you have had a party wanting that for 17 years but you don't vote for them.
Seems to be a pattern here of complaining about something, you're doing nothing about.
@@casperwallace9685 you really don't get his point that he was trying to make. He voted to remain, one of the 44.6% that you so rudely ignored. So according to you because the vote was won by a narrow majority everyone in England is now one of Nigel Farage's mindless goons. The reason why Scotland's voice is the loudest on remaining and independence is because of Scotland's Great and Glorious leader. Comrade Nicola Sturgeon. She only has one goal and that's independence, if she gets it she'll have no idea what to do and inevitably she'll make a dog's dinner out of it. The vast majority of Scotland voted to remain but voting for independence is just voting to have Brexit imposed on Scotland twice. The EU wouldn't make an exception Scotland would have to go through the same process, it might be fast tracked but nevertheless you'll have to wait for years before you're allowed back in. Also expect years of harsh austerity will cripple the people of Scotland who have got used to and rather enjoyed how Nicola can spend at her will with Westminster picking up the tab for all the bits Scotland couldn't afford.
Alex McCaffrey the welsh could go independent if they so wished
@@cameronbeattie3087 Yes I suppose in theory but Wales is part of England ftom a legal standpoint. Its obviously not discussed very often but Wales legally is quite different from Scotland. The centuries old law has never been updated. There's also little drive in Wales for independence.
@@casperwallace9685 I suggest you look up what The United Kingdom is. Many people seem to think each separate country has more power than it does. It's a legal union. England can't just leave and screw the rest. It's where parliament resides for the Union for starters. So what if one party wants English independence. How much do you think parties have? It looks like I included Wales as voting Remain. Corrected thanks.
Scotland just needs to change political unions. It will have considerably more autonomy as a member of the EU than it has as part of the UK. There will be economic dislocation at first, but once it is a member of the EU is will be able to avail of all of the EUs trade deals.
Furthermore, leaving the UK and joining the EU will increase Scottish national self-confidence and actually strengthen cultural identity. Scots will have their own passport, embassies, foreign policy, defence force etc...
If Scotland were to join the EU then to be Scottish would count for nothing. Scotland would have no influence at all on the EU Parliament, and the Scottish Parliament would be a puppet of EU rule. The whole purpose of the EU is to undermine cultural identify (opening your borders to unlimited immigration) and impose authoritarian central control. How can you not know this.
I only deal in facts, Roskellan. This how I know what I know.
EU membership requires its members to judiciously pool/share sovereignty in certain areas in order to amplify it. It does not subject members wholesale to the whims of the EU Parliament, as you would like to portray it.
There are no puppets of EU rule, whatever that is supposed to mean. Unlike the UK, this union comprises sovereign states of equal status.
Only the English fear a loss of cultural identity, not because their culture or identity is weak, but because they are insecure about their place in the world.
And the wonderful euro of course,You will not have the pound.Also the eu will continue to rape your rich fishing grounds..I ask you,is the only reason that you want this situation is a pathological hatred of the English since Culloden? Or a true love and desire to be run by unelected beaurocrats in Brussels? Ha Ha what a joke.Scotland is a beautiful and great country now.Why let SNP bigotry end that? Don’t make sense to me...Please,please argue with me...
no requirement to adopt the euro. several countries dont. we are run by unelected bureaucrats already. why spout off shite you cant back up?
Scotland can not afford even the EU membership. The Eu is not free. £963 million given by Westminster last month to prop up Scotland debt. The EU will drag Scotland further into debt and then it will own you like the rest of low economic countries within Europe. In 1943 when Germany realised it would not win the war it then made a plan to dominate by economic gain. You need to understand the origins of the EU or EC... Remember they burned Scottish sheep in their transporters, took your fishing, animals transported across Europe for days. They are like payday loan sharks....send you money then pay at peril. !!
Postbrexit, I think it's time for England to establish devoled parliaments in the 8 regions. I've always been a strong believer that more power controlled by smaller levels makes people less disinfranchised with our policites, even if we don't support what each regions does due to the party divide in the country.
@joe caterman In a free society people disagreeing on policy is inevitable, and therefore a central government controlling more will always disinfranchise the opposition. And the way to combat this is to have more power a lower level where policies can be more geared towards the views of that area. For example the Southeast begin a Tory heartland means they can have policies that they support and on the other end the Northeast begin a Labour stronghold can adopt more socialist agenda.
And even though Scotland is kicking and screaming at Westminster currently, it would be far worse if they didn't have a devoled parliament because they would have less control over there affairs and therefore probably would have voted for independence in 2014.
As an Englishman and a remainer, I fully support Scottish independence. Westminster is a disgrace and doesn't speak for them. In fact, I'd quite like the north of England to stick two fingers up to London and go its own way, but that's hoping for too much.
That’s right, Westminster doesn’t speak for them. How many Scottish pm’s have we had again? Didn’t our royals come from there?
Business before patriotism. Money before principal. So I think England should leave the U.K. And the EU. Why is it the SNP think we are afraid of Scots leaving. It might be very good for Scotland. But really good for England.
England is British as is Scotland as a part of the British Isles. But that is just geography..
It's not a question of if Scotland gets independence, it's a question of when. I say this as an Englishman.
Last year there were 10500 tractors sold in England and 1500 sold in Scotland........... shows were the work gets done. They’ll go back to tribes if they go independent. Real shame
Well, if 55 million english people bought 10500 tractors and 5.5 million scottish people bought 1500 than the scottish people almost bought 30% more tractors per capita than the english people did last year. In Germany they sold 27000 tractors in 2018, 235000 in the US in 2014 and 260000 in India. If you'd see it that way, than you are lazy af. Real shame
Diet Double DEW 🤔 my argument is flawed 😔 erm
@@sandman8993 This happends to me also from time to time. No big deal..
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The UK leaves the EU. Scotland votes to leave the UK, will no deal be on the table? Scotland rejoins the EU, will there be a hard boarder? All sounds very simple to me.
If they want to go let them as long as we don't have to pick up the bill the UK will be a lot stronger out of the EU if Scotland want to stay in the EU and pickup the EU bill good for them we don't
Scotland is an example of how you can have an international outlook and yet patriotic
Scotland has had more of it's people emigrate than any other European nation.
The SNP is not Scotland, it only thinks it is, told to me by a very good Scottish friend living in Campbeltown.
The democratically elected party of Scotland. The largest party in scotland and 3rd largest in the UK. Be careful what people tell you, look for yourself. The SNP are set to win a 4th term
Why
support SCOTTISH INDEPENDENCE
As an Englishman, the sooner they leave the better.
@malcolm watson whining* you uneducated english dope.
@@kieranb7747 🤣👍
Brexit means independence. Separating one part of our country from another (as the SNP want) is separatism,
not indepdence.
@@bossendenwoodconvict can u blame scotland for wanting to go it alone.england going down.union is dead.what are u doing to ireland!!! England cares only about england.look at boris.hes a twat.good luck with ur brexit.
Could Scotland became 💪 independent because the 🌎Brexit conflict?
Fresh Brexit Referendum👍
Yes.
@bucketsandshims 😊
No chance if England leaves the customs union. That would mean a hard border between England and Scotland and Scotland adopting the Euro. Very good chance of independence if England stays in the Eu or a Norway style deal
@@danarchist74 💜
@bucketsandshims 💜
Independence of Scotland! Support from Northern Europe, Baltics and Norway. We love you!
It is unjust that Scottish are some of the poorest people in UK while they generate the most of Tax collected. 1 in 3 families used to live in poverty! And some still do!
Scotland is a beautiful country and nation that deserves Independence!
Scotland has the right to be independent and be a worthy member of the EU family. Please do not let London drain your wealth. You have an opportunity to become a wellfare state like Norway yet much more European. You have everything for that! And more!
Warmest support From Baltics and Norway!
Arūnas Jonas Kastėnas you do understand snp controls wealth expenditure on public resources?
@@weeddegree Don't talk crap. Go away if you can't stop lying.... or if you are politically illiterate.
@@weeddegree Wrong...............go educate yourself.
I totally agree and understand that the Scots wants a second referendum !
Especially when you remember the previous referendum and one of the core argument that Scotland would loose its EU-Membership as a seperate country. If they loose it in the Union aswell, this argument is void.
What the man said at the end is the crux of the matter “the union isn’t one of equal partners”. The EU is, which is why much of England (I’m English btw) doesn’t understand it.
The English mentality views the EU as “the Uk is bigger, more important and put more in we should get more out and dictate our own terms”. An EU made in the British image would be ruled by us, France and Germany with ‘lesser nations’ having fewer rights.
The Irish border is a good example. The UK doesn’t understand that France and Germany would harm their own interests to stand up for one of it’s smaller members, in Ireland (because if the shoe was on the other foot, we would screw them over, and indeed have throughout history). Instead we can only rationalise it as the EU want to hurt the Uk.
I’m sad to say that I don’t think the Union will last the next 10 years and I worry what England will become.
I find it to be such rubbish that Scotland is better off in the EU. Due to there vast fish and oil, with proper leadership Scotland could have a Swisszterland.
@joe caterman And almost time there is a vote on further intergration they reject it. The EEA vote in 92 and mass immargration in 2016 they gave Bussells the middle finger, and I get a kick out of it.
North Sea Oil was funded with BRITISH (not Scottish) money. Scotland would only end up with a small portion of that industry.
yes
What currency will they use if they leave the UK before rejoining the EU and the Euro?? They haven’t answered the currency question yet
They answered it many times during 2014; pound sterling. Scotland is mostly on the island of Great Britain which uses the British pound.
@@jude4955 It literally isn't happening at present, however, it will in the future.
And they said Brexit will break up the EU.. 😂
@Sofia Lauren
It didn't...
Who loves Scotland
Do you trust the SNP to run an independent Scotland? Certainly not with the way they are performing, failing in every area, whether it's health, education, the police or the numerous failed projects they have thought up.
The crowd at Westminster are bad enough, but to suggest that independence under the SNP is the way to go is crazy.
They are not failing. You are swallowing the endless propaganda, possibly even choosing to. We are wise to that crap now, when nearly every daily British newspaper and nearly every news channel are lined up against you, as well as UK Govt intelligence services, it puts in clear view the methods of the British State. And it reeks to hell.We are sorted and ready this time, thats why another referendum is needed and will happen.
@@volefastacrostheroad like to name me a recent SNP success then.
@@petergordon4525 How do you measure success? If its in comparison to England i would start with health, education, and police. Indeed yes, that might make you question how much you have been influenced by media. And it might not, the mind control by media takes a bit of facing up to.
@@volefastacrostheroad how do you measure success? By seeing the crime rate dropping instead of rising, by seeing the drug death rate dropping, by seeing school exam marks not dropping for 4 years in a row and by seeing a hospital that should have opened years ago actually opening instead of another years delay, that is if it doesn't have to be pulled down. Don't forget Lothian Health Board are paying £1.4 million per month to a private company, that money should be spent on the kids in that hospital!
That is what I would call success, but you can blame the Tory's and MI6 or whoever you want to blame, but the buck stops with the Scottish Government!
@@petergordon4525 Oh aye, bring the kids into it. Maybe we should ask the kids what they make of the 40+ billion pound Trident crap, and maybe about the ongoing 50 billion HS2 now going to be 30 billion more and may be abandoned, how much has Brexit cost, why did the UKGovt keep awarding multi million pound contracts to Carrilion including hospitals when they had shown a clear profit warning then went bust causing incalculable losses down the line, how much has the current value of Sterling cost the UK, millions on a crazy ferry contract etc etc etc the list is long and tragic. Did you realise that reported drug deaths in Scotland include deaths by legal prescription drugs intentional and accidental. When they can spin something to that extent other statistics become meaningless, like GERS. Kids could do better than a Tory Govt, especially with an egotistical nutjob now at the helm, he of Boris bridge and Boris island waste of millions fame. Thats just a few things that come to mind, only a start. Are you aware of how much Scotland spends on minimising the damage on social services through austerity? Try looking up DS 1500, it doesnt operate in England, and its just one example.
Scotland, you are French at heart, and have been for well over 400 years. The last time you sided with France and tried to topple the King, Culloden happened.
and back into 2020.........
The thing is what do have to loose and what you have to win.
Democracy is not set in stone, Scotlands people are sovereign and can choose whatever they wish. No one is above the Scottish people, not the courts or the Queen.