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For years Scotland has been talking about leaving the United Kingdom and Brexit has really reignited that conversation. We discuss the history of Scottish independence as well as if Scotland will actually leave because of Brexit.
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Great vid - only criticism I have is that you didn’t stress the fact enough that Scots were explicitly and repeatedly promised the only way to protect their EU membership was to vote NO in the first independence referendum.
Scotland always gets the shank, right?
TheBayzent not at all, but in this case Scotland was lied to.
@@Encolpius79 Has defo screwed over scotland in that regard but tbf at the time it wasn't a lie since we hadn't had the brexit vote yet
ceefar fair enough!
They'd be in the exact same position if they have another vote. In both 2014 and today leaving the UK will mean leaving the EU and in both cases they would have to apply from scratch, a process that would take years. If Brexit happens and everything is fine, none of the huge problems and ruined economy that Remainers predict, then the call for leaving will fall away. The choice will be leaving a union with the UK to join a union with the EU, but having up to a decade of isolation AND facing having to have a hard border with England. That border staying open was a key promise Alex Salmond made in 2014 and the issue in Ireland has made it clear that it will be impossible. Scotland joining the EU WILL mean a hard border with England. And Scotland will just be swapping rule from Westminster to rule from Brussels. Scots have more representation in London than they will in the EU. Two of the previous four British Prime Ministers were Scottish. I can't see a Scottish EU President in the near future....
I'm Scottish, a supporter of independence, I'm very happy to see the frank and unbiased analysis in this video and would love to see more videos on the prospects of Scottish independence in the future.
Thanks so much for your great work TLDR News!
Out of curiosity, I'm going to assume (perhaps wrongly) that you're for scottish independence from the UK but would like Scotland to be part of (governed by) the EU. Is that the case?
think scotland is not taking into account the fact that they'd only enter the EU if, and only if, everysingle member state votes yes and thisis not a given. countries like Spain, France, Italy and Germany have pro-independence political movements too in some of their regions (catalonia, venezia, Babiera, corsica, etc) and one of the big arguments against independence is that those regions would be inmediately outside the single market and EU.
Every country with a regionalist independentist movement would vote NO to their entry, they are f*cked
Can I just say you lot have always been greedy we pay for alot of your free stuff. You voted remain in the referendum and demand you be heard. We are a democracy Scotland has around 6 million people in it England has over 40 million people in it so in the nicest way possible stfu. If you want to leave fine we don't need you join the EU and have your own money drained from you because if England leaves the money has to come from somewhere and it'll be you lol
@@hordegaming4771 You could not be more wrong in your analysis.
Horde Gaming WRONG! Scottish people do get more spent per capita, but we’re also taxed more, the block grant we get is a fraction of the money raised here, Scotland has been a net contributor to the U.K. economy for decades at this point
Big shout out to the government for putting together a curriculum that taught me this in school... Oh wait, nope... I'm learning it now... at 29... from CZcams
If schools did there JOB there wouln't be a Brexit to begin with...
@@Wayoutthere I don't think the schools had anything to do with it tbh... (and btw it's their)
Lol
@@aidsandfire Lived in Scotland 8 years. From 8 till I was 16. Independence was teased but I left 2010. The independence debate had calmed down. Now though it seems everyone I knew wants independence so they can pull out the UK and into the EU which makes 0 sense at all. Out of the frying pan into the fire.
i learned in scottish school lmao
I was against Scottish Independence in 2014. I am now for it.
Same
And I understand why....
@Dr Dimpy Rambo it wont be long befor they are on the knees begging to come back😝
We're better together. 🇬🇧
ImmortalTyrant2 we were better together 🇪🇺
One of the main reasons I was against independence is because Scotland may not have been able to get admitted to the European Union.
Now that the UK is no longer in the EU, that is no longer a worry.
"Those pre-Brexit times"
Ahhh yes, those were the days
Andrew Robert The pre Roman times. Remember those days.
@@leehaiko3999 what a throwback, how could I ever forget
I never thought I would look back and say "I miss 2015." I could've lived with Scotland staying in the UK if it wasn't for all this Brexit shite. Now we're set to be dragged out of the EU and have Boris Johnson as the next PM. Can't wait...
@@leehaiko3999 Still better then what is going to happen when brexit (or even no deal Brexit) occurs.
The UK should just cancel the whole thing.
Even if they leave, its only a matter of time till they get forced back into it.
TheWinged Hussar forced by whom? The real people in power?
LMAO, how hilarious would it be for Scotland to leave the UK and take like 2/3 of the UK's fishing grounds and oil fields with them, after the UK wanted to leave the EU for control over their waters in large parts?
How long would it take for Scotland to join the EU after their secession? And would they adopt the Euro?
They’d have to adopt the Euro and Schengen and everything else in the Lisbon Treaty.
They would have to adopt the euro. Only the UK has a permanent opt-out from the monetary union. All other member states have to adopt it at some point. There's no date set for those that haven't yet, though.
@@AtheistEve I don't think Schengen is a requirement and everybody screws over the EU when it comes to obligations like joining the Euro. What s REALLY unlikely for Scotland to gain extra perks over are things like opt-outs on certain Eu laws or rebates like Britain has. Those do require quite a lot of power to obtain in negotiations.
But they won't be able to adopt the Euro, without being part of the EU, which all major countries have said they'll block their membership. It's ridiculous people are ignoring this simple and well documented fact. Scotland are out of the EU, no matter what.
@@AtheistEve This is a very good thing , the sooner we get the Euro & Schengen the better before the £ sinks out of sight with the car crash out Brex=shit . I mean does anyone think Brex=shit is going to be a great success ? When we all know it'll be a very up hill job to stop it being an utter clusterfuck .
Scotland voted by 62% to remain in the EU. The people have already chosen.
Your welcome to it. dont come crawling back when that thing sturgeon messes Scotland up again😝😭
Who the fuck would want to come crawling back...if we are a burden go write to Boris Johnson asking him to sign a section 30 order for us..that's all that is stopping us leaving right now...and I'lf we are such a burden why do English politicians come to Scotland to beg us to stay and save what they call the precious union..makes me want to vomit..
bob a job your a plum
@@Tam10101999 I sent this to boris for y dont need section 30 you need section 4
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No, Scotland didn't vote to remain in the EU because Scotland is not a member of the EU. The UK, which is a member of the EU, voted to leave.
Scotland did not "join the UK in 1707" the United Kingdom Of Great Britain was formed by 1707 by acts of parliament of the Kingdom of England and Wales and the Kingdom of Scotland.
Edit: The Kingdom of Great Britain, not the united kingdom, that was formed between 1800-1801
True, that is more accurate, just semantics though, so the story arch is right :)
@@blazednlovinit Maybe, but most people outside the UK have no fucking clue how it works, so I think its important to cover it all.
John MacDonald true..
Yep 1707 was the year England bailed out a bankrupt Scotland.
@@swallowdalert Mate, I was making a simple correction. Not trying to have an ahistorical nationalistic wanking game.
I'd love to see more arguments about Scottish independence!
TLDR News is brilliant! Loved it from the beginning :)
@manny022 you join voluntarily, what kind of submission is that? And also there's nothing better for Scotland than to be independent and finally stop being England's slave.
@manny022 yes the EU is European suffering, European collapse, European genocide. Plain and simple.
@Allington Marakan If the Scottish government declared independence without legal permission from Westminister in the form of a referendum it would not be able to join the EU and thus destroy the main justification currently being used to push for another vote in the first place. That is the one situation in which mentions of a Spanish (and others) veto would prove true. Nations don't tend to look fondly on unilateral declarations of independence. So doing less name-calling and more research would probably benefit you.
@@MSuyay Scotland is not Englands slave. If you think that, you have no idea what the situation in Scotland actually is.
@Pádraig O'Gallochoir The EU does state all new members should join the Euro and while Scotland could attempt to create its own currency it would only be temporary. Also within the UK the Scottish parliament is getting more powers and in fact doesn't use all of them now, whereas the EU is taking more control so balance is going the other way. There had to be some fiscal convergence because our economies and economic cycle are basically the same. You would need to consider the vast trade Scotland does with the UK 80% plus, would it continue at that rate. Would you continue to be happy handing control of VAT and corporation tax to the EU with us on your doorstep?
A good video, but you missed out a core point.
Better Together campaigned that voting No would be the best way for Scotland to lose it's EU membership. Over 90% of EU nationals living in Scotland voted No as a result. David Cameron advised EU nationals to vote No to maintain their legal right to live in Scotland.
Then he announced the Brexit referendum to which EU nationals were not allowed to vote. Talk about two timing.
He also promised more investment in Scotland and its infrastructure by Westminster if the country voted to remain, but then cancelled that plan 2 days after the result in 2014.
Two timing who? the Scottish people who voted to leave ignored in favour of like-minded anarchist whos only reason for living is to see the destruction of the U.K
@charlie freeman I don't think it sounds particularly nationalist, in most countries only citizens of that country are allowed to vote in referendums and elections afaik.
@MrNotadream because they live in the UK you tit. UK nationals living in eu countries are allowed to vote in those countries.
@MrNotadream Depends on what kind of election. EU nationals living in another member state have the right to vote in the local elections of that member state even if they are not a citizen. In European Elections, they can choose to either vote in their country of residence or their country of nationality. Regional and national elections are not covered by the treaty but of course, this doesn't prevent member states from giving non-nationals voting rights, the UK does this with citizens of the commonwealth and Ireland.
1967 was not The Scottish National Party's first parliamentary seat.
Dr Robert McIntyre won the first seat for The Scottish National Party in a by election at Motherwell and Wishaw in 1945.
footnote in our modern history.
Kyle McMahon wrong
@@louisbeerreviews8964 No, YOU are wrong. On 13 April 1945, McIntyre won the Motherwell by-election, with a narrow majority of 617 votes over his Labour opponent.
I REALLY don't want the UK to break apart, any further! Am I the only one?!
No you have 2 likes
Love to see more arguments on a Scottish independence.
Notice there was no mention of 'English votes for English laws' from the Conservatives, which has basically sowed more discontent than was there previously.
English votes for English laws is worth a video of it's own.
The video pretty much explains why its a nonsense rgument. Westminster can overule ny devolved parliment, and england has a vast majority of MP's in westminster so it is essentially just the english parliment anyway, as you can see in action with the the brexit mess in westminster with scotlands voice being findamentally ignored.
Federalise the UK along the same borders as the EU constituencies (ironically). With that each constituency is a minority in the country. And it allows each are to develop their own political identity.
The so-called West Lothian Question was named after a man called Tam Dalyell, who used to be an MP for West Lothian in Scotland. ... Basically, it is asking why Scottish, Welsh and Northern Irish MPs have the same rights to vote in Westminster as English MPs on laws that will only impact England.Sep 25, 2014
@@Paul-zk2tn exactly. I'd love to see a tldr video for that!
Objective non partisan political information, such a breath of fresh air these days. Keep it up, you deserve 10 times as many subs.
Sorry, about the air, just faded, the smell will disapate soon
@@philcooper279 what do you mean?
I rarely comment, but this topic is exceptionally fascinating. Please keep up the good work!
Scotland leaving would destroy both Britain and the UK as political units. Honestly, a fitting consequence for what was basically an English coup on NI's and Scotland's rights as EU citizens, given how disproportionately the vote turned out.
Love the content my dude good luck with the channel.
Also worth noting. A big part of the Better Together campaign was saying that an independent scotland would have to leave the EU and rejoin. It was also said that Spain would veto scotland joining the EU. Since then Brexit has happened and a big reason for wanting to stay in the union is now gone. It has also emerged that the spanish veto was not true.
The Better Together campaign never said Spain would veto Scottish entry into the EU - the major argument was over whether Scotland could roll over its membership of the EU that it had as part of the UK.
Regarding the Spanish veto - Spain will not veto Scottish entry into the EU so long as it has a legal vote to separate from the UK.
@@Pizza23333 Unfortunately I really think they would, just to make sure that catalonians are scared enough to not become independent, I'm spanish btw.
They're also giving Ireland some trouble over Rockall, just saying. Yeah, we're probably too spineless to veto (if it gets to the point where we could consider that appropriate), but the divisive threats over the rock will not be forgotten. Wishing Scotland the best, from one "Celtic Cousin" to another, but I don't see the Rockall dispute as being wise for the long term.
@@Tomas-tx9sv I'm not particularly versed in Spanish politics, so I cannot say if they definitely will or won't, I can only go by what they've said. What has been said across multiple Spanish governments is that Spain won't veto as long as there is a legal vote.
So hear me out this is crazy but if scottland leaves uk Spain will block entrance to eu do to it not wanting to set the example for Catalonia to do the same so this is what should happen england should leave the uk and take whales with it and north ireland and scottland should become the united kingdoms of scottland and northern ireland then since the uk is part of the uk scottland remains in the eu and egland gets its hard boarder at Hadrian wall( its a joke) but in all seriousness after awhile northern ireland should be given the option of joining the rest of ireland and thus leaving scootland by itself and then it should rename itself scottland
The Dutch news reported yesterday that the Eems harbour, a Northern harbour in the Netherlands, has been contacted by Scottish officials. Being worried about their free trade being dragged down along with the UK, they have made arrangements for trade ships to continue business as usual. Independence or not, the Scottish are making substantial preparations to minimise the backlash accompanying a possible No Deal Brexit.
So if anyone's counting that's 3 democratic referendums that the SNP wanted to over turn.
1979 devolution referendum.
2014 independence referendum.
2016 Brexit referendum.
The SNP obviously does not like democracy.
Voted no to independence in 2014, most definitley will be voting yes in a second indyref now
A lot has happened in 5 years though, this little thing called Brexit happened for instance.
It is laughable that the brexit brigade bash on about soverignty in the EU debate but then deny it in this one... The first referndum was voted on with the understanding and threats from westminster that yes meant they would block EU membership, it was pretty much their main argument, fast forward and a pro EU scotland is being dragged out regardless and being ignored in the debate.
Are you talking about yourself or Scotland as a whole?
Bit of backstory: I live in the north east of Scotland and voted no in 2014. At the time it made sense to not upset the status quo. Aside from the downturn oil, things overall seemed ok. I can understand peoples motives for voting yes and I can agree on some points. but what really scared me was the uncertainty around currency, boarder issues and EU memebership.
Fast forward to 2019, and Brexit has really changed the minds of a lot of people, including myself.
It seems to me that the only chance of Scotland being part of the EU is to break away from the Union and apply for membership (here's hoping spain don't disagree)
same here. I'd much rather be in the eu and out of the uk than the other way around.
There is a more direct connection. If Brexit is a success, then it provides a model for Scotland's own exit. If Brexit is a disaster, then it becomes another reason for Scotland to get out. And on top of that, almost every single argument put forward for Brexit can be adapted and pointed to, North of The Border, simply by substituting "UK" for "EU", and "Westminster" for "Brussels".
I dont think the left leaning SNP would start using populist retoric to get it over the line tbh... but who knows.
They can, but also, all the arguments for leaving are total bollocks. Draw your own conclusions.
@@MrBoboiscool Are you kidding? Theirs is the prototype populist movement! (And a lot of the drivers for Scottish independence are far less progressive than is commonly claimed. Progressivism means helping those in need; England is most definitely in need now, and leaving us for dead is most assuredly not progressive.)
@@alexpotts6520 Sure, all nationilist parties are in a way populist. But the form of populism that won teh day in teh brexit debate and farage drives is right leaning populism with nationlism based on patriotism and light xenophobia with harconing back to the gool ol days without remembering all the shit that went a long with it. The SNP dont really drive the wedge of 'damn english, coming up here taking our jobs' and there are no good ol days to hark back to to tickle the older generations nostalgia bone.
Really depends what you mean by progressive, an international scotland with ties to its other neighbours which it uses for growth of its own economy? Where freedom of movement is welcome due to their contribution to soceity and culture. I am not a nationalist personally, I think the idea of nationalism is an outdated contruct in modern society, but I can see why scotland would want to leave, ignored in the brexit debate and the EU is much more fitting with its ethos.
@@MrBoboiscool That would make sense but Scottish nationalism was popular well before anyone had even coined the word "Brexit".
And in previous decades, especially following Scotland's North Sea windfall, there was certainly an element of "bloody English people, taking our oil" to the separatist movement.
When North sea oil was struck they said there was enough to buy every man woman and child a house. Now there is not enough accommodations for the homeless. Give the oil to the Scottish instead of lining the pockets of the rich.
SNP would probaly misuse it too all their freebies actually benefit the better off of Scotlsnd because they enjoy free prescriptions and probably benefit more from free tuition fees. So no matter how much they say they care about the poor the better offf benefit just as much
@@lindawarwick8643 no such thing as freebie, they're all tax funded.
Sounds like Venezuela.
That is what the Norwegians did.
"..when the UK gets around to leaving." :-)
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@@TheBayzent Better if England and Wales leave the UK.
@@TheBayzent WIll be sooner than you think.
Brexit oriented parties basically swept the elections.
We are leaving this month. January 31st!
I find it interesting that the 1979 referendum required that 40 % of the total electorate voted for it. Meanwhile only 38 % of the total electorate voted for brexit.
(I'm not British btw).
Then keep out of it.
Personally I think that having a set benchmark for the electorate to hit is a bad system. If some of the electorate don't bother to turn up then their votes shouldn't be tallied to maintain the status quo.
@Matt x69x 52x0.7221 = 37.5492%. It checks out.
Kim Kobusch no its 75 referendum not 79
@Hordriss And Trolls should stay out of human politics, so piss off.
God, Scotland leaving would break my heart, but... i really wouldn’t blame them.
Smith Movies In an ideal UK Scotland stays and everyone moves on as a country together. It’s just a shame that doesn’t look possible for us. Last time a lot of it was spun as some sort of “braveheart fuck England” from some sides and it really just isn’t the case. Sure there are some English hating Scots but that’s really not where all of this comes from. Boris Johnson will be the tipping point I think.
The thing is, Scottish nationalists bang on about how theirs is a socialist movement, and yet their argument for leaving is essentially "England is a basket case" and we need to look after ourselves first.
They aren't wrong about that, but since when was abandoning basket cases a socialist thing to do? Scotland, England needs your help!
@@alexpotts6520 I'd agree if Scotland had not tried to help for the last 3 years! Problem is that no one in Westminster is taking Scotland seriously and would not accept any help. At some point Scotland needs to look after itself.
@@CailanHmfc in my experience, the Scots in general are better educated and less susceptible to vile propaganda than the English, who seem to have lost all hope and reason. There are fervently anti English Scots (I happen to have an English accent and it wasn't always pleasant to live with that kind of bigotry). But on the whole, Scottish independence was about preserving the welfare state and sense of community, whereas the English are nihilistic in dismantling those things because they see an injustice in "non English" people having access to them, without realising that all that will result in is self sabotage on a huge scale.
@@xeniamenzl340 "We've tried putting money into the welfare system but there are still homeless people. They aren't helping themselves. We may as well give up on the welfare system altogether."
The Scottish National Party’s first Westminster seat was NOT Hamilton in 1967, but was the Motherwell and Wishaw by-election in 1945, won by Dr Robert Macintyre.
iainf1 who cares
True but they lost it like three months later, the SNP only really picked up 1960s
Why did you put the union flag on Northern Ireland
The flag of ulster is Northern Ireland official flag
It is only part of Ulster, which has 9 counties, 6 of which form part of the UK, thanks to what are called the "planters". People taken there by King James I Stuart of Scotland and later of England. Of course, in order for him to give them land in Ireland, he had to take it off the Irish. That is what "planting" was all about, a land grab. Then in 1640, taking advantage of the political situation in England, the Irish rebelled and tried to kick out the planters. Then in 1649, the Butcher Cromwell took his "new army" or "Ironsides" to Ireland and massacred some 600,000 Irish people and also sent some to the West Indies, whose descendants are still there and poorer than the blacks.
@@thomasjhenniganw LOL, they should call the Stuarts the *Planter-Genet* Dynasty! :P
The Union died in 2016. I think Scotland leaving is inevitable and as an Englishman this saddens me. However if it's their desire then I wish them all the best. I'm more worried about what a no deal will do to peace in Northern Ireland or if Parliament will be prorogued - imo a nightmare scenario for our democracy. Also a proroguement will put the Queen in a very difficult situation.
S. P There are already unrests happening in Derry, if Farage and his ilks actually bulldoze this hideous thing through, that would possibly mark the comeback of Troubles.
I agree. Its just a matter of time. With Brexit hardship ahead it will just accelerate the demand for independence. Also, you have to consider that the Queen is quite old. I think a lot of Scotts won't have the same attachment to the crown under King Charles as they did before.
If enough people believe the Kingdom to be dead, then it will become a self-fulfilling prophecy. There are so many leeches hiding in positions of power right now that seem to want to take countries like the UK and exacerbate their unique internal issues to carve them apart and rule them via the market like little feudal fiefdoms. It's disgusting.
You know that they get banned from entering the EU again ?
Once you leave or get Independence the EU will tell you to "fuck off and Never come back"
Why do you Think catalonia still havent got Independence?
And btw its a middlefinger to Margret fetchers whole career (Not that i like her at all, in fact i hate her son and i Think this guy should get exectuted for what hes done)
@John Small you know that the IRA didnt gave a fuck?
Look at londonderry....
And btw i wouldnt Call them Terrorist at all...
Remember the uprising?
I love that you've taken the time to make a Brexit video from Scotland's perspective!
Well someone has to, considering the government has not.
We don't want to be part of the EU nor do we want the euro, It will destroy Scotland.
@@kieranblckie5521 Nah it won't, lol.... this is exactly the hyperbole you get from people have have no idea what the fuck is going on around them. Get informed and quit guessing. How exactly will it destroy Scotland? Especially considering Scotland has been part of the EU along with the rest of the UK for the past 3 decades?!?!?!
The UK is far too centralised and focused on London and the south east. Federalism should’ve been considered a long time ago
The English would never accept any solution where they had to accept their place as one vote in four. They've never accepted that the UK is anything other than Greater England and they never will. It has to be independence or bust.
When asked my position on Scottish independence, I always argued for a federal system, but not along current boundaries. England should be broken-up between the north, west, and east with London on its own, similar to Washington DC or Canberra. All local power would be devolved to the various assemblies and the UK central government would deal with foreign issues like trade, diplomacy, and defense.
Ricardo S
1. This has nothing to do with the EU. It’s an internal debate within the UK so not sure why you’re bringing the EU up.
2. The EU has 28 (soon to be 27) member states. Each one is legally equal in terms of the EU treaties. Unlike the UK where one country overrules all the others
Daniel Logan-Scott I believe the last Labour government tried to pursue a system of English regional assemblies. They were to be put to referenda but the first in the North East overwhelmingly rejected it so they cancelled the whole idea
centralised? The focus goes there just because the market points there nothing else.
They will not leave. At the end of the day they will not give up access to the NHS for anything. We’ve seen this movie before and we know how it ends.
11:15 That's not necessarily true. Scotland already issues it's own bank notes from Scottish banks, a Scottish currency pegged to GBP (which was discussed during the referendum) is practically already in place.
Oooh wow I had no idea.... but shouldn't Scotland adopt the Euro if they leave the UK but stay in Europe?
Honestly, I'm more interested in Scottish independence than brexit. If things continue as they have I believe that Scotland will leave the union. The support for it has Risen significantly, most EU nationals living here, myself included, would vote for it now.
Do you think the Scottish people you know will be happy to accept the Euro and Schengen?
@@AtheistEve The ones I know? Aye. But then again I live central and in Uni heavy area so it's not surprising.
I do think that while may independence fans don't like the idea of getting in bed with the EU they are severely outnumbered but that's just my gut feeling.
think scotland is not taking into account the fact that they'd only enter the EU if, and only if, everysingle member state votes yes and thisis not a given. countries like Spain, France, Italy and Germany have pro-independence political movements too in some of their regions (catalonia, venezia, Babiera, corsica, etc) and one of the big arguments against independence is that those regions would be inmediately outside the single market and EU.
Every country with a regionalist independentist movement would vote NO to their entry
You do realise Spain is guaranteed to veto Scotland joining the EU as they are petrified that if they don't Catalunya will gain independence?
@@becomingfr33 and germany, and italy, and france... Pro independence people are just delutional
More on this topic , please. Thanks for making these videos.
If we could see intae the future. We would have voted YES. We were told that we'd stay in the eu if we stayed with the UK. We were lied to.
You were hugged and then shanked in the back. You were totally betrayed. Like an abusive partner you've been shown no respect and you need to leave.
no, you were not lied, if you were to vote YES in the 2014 then with the independence you would have ended up out of the EU by default. And asking here, don't you see that being part of the EU also goes against countries independence of choosing everything? Leaving the UK, to be part of another Unions while calling for independence does it make sense?
@@neikory look at Ireland and how much they have progressed since they joined the EU. For small countries the EU is a great deal
Try not to be silly. Of course you weren't lied to. What you were told was perfectly true at the time. Even politicians can't see into the future.
WE? I think you'll find a large number of us DID vote YES...well done you for buying into the lie
Come Scotland, join us! Norway got its independence from Sweden 100 years ago and we are rocking it!
Scotland won't get Independence.
Yes and you just said, "We're off, bye'.
@Allington Marakan you guys wouldn't last a day with your weak ass legal systems along with your sensitive leaders. Scotland should be stripped of a parliament, lucky we even gave you one.
@Allington Marakan Even canada hasnt fucked up as bad as the scottish
I think England will benefit the most from the break up of the UK. It means we won't be able to give the Celtic leeches anymore welfare
Whatever happens, France will forever be Scotland’s most steadfast ally. The Auld Alliance never dies! 🏴🇫🇷
Enjoy a second Greece then
Awww thanks buddy.
@@memenecromancer4417 No thanks to you.
dibs on the whisky for germany.
@@CharalamposKoundourakis ok
Let's hope they hurry up and leave, we can use the money for the nhs
Don't worry about the NHS. It's back to Victorian times for the plebs. The NHS is already being privatized. It will be asset stripped along with everything else in England.
Scotland is not happy that Westminster can make their rules and wants to leave, but would rather Europe to make their rules. Hurry up Scotland and leave the UK sick of the constant moaning. You will be bankrupt within five years.
Less.
Yeah, with all that oil and an economy more vibrant than England, we'd really be in trouble, wouldn't we?
Oil is the only thing keeping Sterling afloat. If anyone went bankrupt, it would be England.
@@ThomasTrue
Scotland mass spends. And if you are going to to rely solely on oil then you are asking for trouble.
I look forward to when Scotland ends up in a position like Greece and ends up economic serfs to big German banks and the IMF.
@@ThomasTrue Yeah because it's not like that oil is expected to run out in the near future at all... smh.... And by the way oil isn't our biggest export, it's pharmaceuticals.
I would definitely be interested on hearing more about this topic.
With NI rejoining either Eire or Scotland, what remains is going to be called:
Formerly United Kingdom of England and Wales - FUKEW.
Not all heroes wear capes 🤣
currently
Formerly United Kingdom of England and the DUP.
fucked
And you
OH I laughed at that! Love it!
@@artit91 Wouldn't that be FUKEDup?!? ;-)
The likely-hood of Scotland leaving the UK is actually remote as long as Nicola Sturgeon is in charge of the SNP. The direction she wants to take the country is contrary to what the majority of the people want. She has already introduced bills that the Scottish people are firmly against but had no say in there introduction. I, as a firm believer in "National" governments as opposed to federal systems, think all countries in the world should be independent of one another but be in friendly co-existence!
Scotland is a very rich piece of real estate that has the potential to be one of the most successful democracies in the world!
The problem with the political parties, who want to remain in the EU, fail to recognize they will eventually lose any independence as they will have to accept every piece of legislation handed down from Brussels! They (the remain parties) cling onto the notion that the status quo will be maintained and nothing could be further from the truth!
Can you name your top 5 Westminster achievements, within Scotland, over the last 50 years ? btw, you don't have to mention 10 years of Westminster austerity, Scotland being forcibly removed from the EU against Scotland's will, Westminster's rapidly rising £2.2 trillion debt and £45 billion deficit, nor do you have to mention that brexit is costing £1 billion per week, and you certainly don't have to mention all the Scottish soldiers who were killed in the totally pointless Westminster wars in Iraq and Afghanistan .... you can mention Scotland financing English Lords to £300 + expenses per day in the House of Lords, and you can mention how much Scotland is paying towards HS1 & 2, and how we should appreciate Westminster giving £13 million for ferries to a ferryless company .... over to you Sir.
Support for Scottish independence from Hongkong
Scottish independance would be very bad for scotland
Don’t be stupid, Hongkong is what is because it was given the opportunity by the British, Scotland and all the UK will be much stronger when we are out of the EU. Unfortunately you cannot leave the grip of China.
Howard Roberts You don't want Scotland to be independent, just as I don't want Hong Kong to be independent. I say this because the British government is interfering in the affairs of Hong Kong，this is an intervention in China's internal affairs
古月july but the majority of hong kong want to be seperate from china the UK is simply trying to help the people as without international support china could simply move soldiers in and force the population into subjucation its nothing new to china to do that, the UK is simply protecting the land that it made, hong kong was a tiny fishing village until britain had control of it.
古月july, The UK are only thinking of the rights of the people and for China to honer the agreement. But coming from a different angle, China is a very big and powerful country and has a very strong economy. Why not just leave Hong Kong alone and just collect the taxes.
Yes to part 2 to this video. Also yes to scottish independence.
*bagpipe music intensifies* 🎶 🏴
And a "Will Ireland reunify because of Brexit" video
no
Good luck mate. You are doing true journalism here and deserve to keep doing so. I'll be supporting!
*Yes.*
*_Currently in 2019 already 52% of the Scottish voters will vote to leave the UK and join the EU._*
+ From the last referendum 1 out of every 5 Scots that voted to remain in the UK has come to their sences and will now vote to leave the UK and join the EU.
I think that's clear enough ey;) .
What lol...The EU have already stated it would not accept Scotland only if it was part of the United Kingdom..
@@jeremysmith6660 Stop watching the BBC m8.
@TheMadScotsman mckay Nobody asked you cuz,...your English m8.
Stop pretending your a Scot.
In 2014 we were told by the 'better together' campaign that the best way to stay in the EU, was to stay in the UK. It was supposed to be a once in a generation vote, unless there was material change, that material change is Brexit and the harder the Brexit, the larger the support for independence.
As a Scot living in the EU I approached this video with dread....but was pleasantly (and thankfully) surprised!
Same dude.
just for curiousity: how would scottish citizenship be defined to distinguish between natives eligible to vote and become EU citizens again and "third party non-EU rest of UK" ?
@ryn mcray Nationalism has nothing to do with Ethnicity don't mix shit. You can be a foreign born citizen living in a different country and still feel Patriotic or Nationalistic of the country you live in. Just like Grandfather feels about Venezuela while being an Italian born citizen.
A good video but using Scottish parliament and assembly interchangeably isnt quite right, as an assembly has different and more limited powers. Scotland's parliament comes with a certain degree of innate powers over an assembly, compared with for example the Welsh assembly vs scotlands parliament
I agree with what your saying and it is right but it must also be noted that the parliament itself was redefined as such in 2007 when the SNP came to power so there is a chronological problem as well that he was not entirely sensitive to .
You are correct, but just for fun I thought I'd mention that the Welsh Assembly secured an upgrade to full parliament status going into effect 2021.
@@jamesmcabla1772 Since it was restarted in 1999 it's been the Scottish Parliament. The SNP changed the name of the executive group from "Scotish Executive" to "Scottish Government" in 2012 though.
hairyneil yes my apologies I mixed the two up.
I doubt Spain would permit any newly-independent states into the EU.
@Edouard Kanku Very good point. But remember the paranoia over self determination is strong in Spain. They're one of the EU states that refuses to recognize Kosovo. But Gibraltar may tip the balance. And if Gibraltar decides to stay in the EU, as they voted, Spain may make it difficult for them to not be absorbed. Interesting times ahead.
The irony is that through this Brexit affair, England has been treating Northern Ireland and Scotland the way the brexiters accused Brussels of treating the UK. in the SCOTLAND referendum of 2014 the FASCISTS of WESTMINSTER said we would not leave the EU! YOU LIED! FREE SCOTLAND!!!
It is important to mention that during run up to the 2014 vote, both Labour and the Tories worked very hard to convince people that it was a bad idea. They made promises and so far none of them have been upheld. If there is a second referendum, expect the full force of Westminster's influence with the media to negatively impact the SNPs perceived standing.
The SNP played all sorts of tricks to try and swerve the vote. They still lost.
Mark Brown I am STRONGLY in favour of independence as in very little will dissuade me from voting yes in Indy ref 2, still labour and the tories gave Scotland new powers in 2016 in the Scotland act (2016), i still think it wasn’t enough still they did it.
Going full time! Good for you, man. Doing great
Got to say, I can't believe you managed to get these videos out so quickly while holding down a job!
SNP is as independant {dependant} as its likely to be, the EU works on the premis of receiving money, not handing it out.
Why the same system was not used during the Brexit referendum?? Remain and Leave votes should have been compared to the total registered voters.
I would say it is a very important issue and deserves a similar approach (may be not as important as sovereign independence, but pretty close).
Maks_st Sovereign Independence was definitely a main issue during the Brexit referendum and yes it is odd that the Scottish Referendum was overwhelming more organised than the Brexit one. The Yes side had to present a plan whereas the Leave side did not.
It’s probably down to Cameron’s ego, he won Indyref and didn’t care about the Brexit one, thinking he would win (Remain) again.
@@dankjae Yes that's pretty much it, Cameron didn't think the result of the vote would be to leave as they where holding the referendum purely to make the more Euroskeptic wing of his party (and voting block) fall in line.
The Brexit ref had some of the highest turnout of any UK vote ever held. What on earth are you complaining about this time? You lost fair and square, stop trying to overturn democracy because you don't like the result.
The 2014 referendum was a binding resolution, which meant that the will of the people would have to be honoured. However, in contrast, the 2016 Brexit vote was not binding, but simply an advisory vote. Meaning that Westminster was (and still is) under no legal obligation to leave the EU just because the people voted how they did.
Which is why the courts have not overruled Westminster due to the Leave campaign having violated numerous election laws in the run-up to 2016 (including overspending) after the results were challenged in court. If it had been binding, then the referendum results would have been nullified and Article 50 revoked by order of the courts, and Britain would have needed another referendum to ask the same question without Leave violating the rules.
All I know is that here in Germany, Scotland apparently does CZcams ads asking us Europeans to keep visiting them. Which I will.
Same here. We love Scotland and hope that Scots will rejoin us within the EU after Brexit happened.
It would be funny for the UK to prevent Scotland to get away after Brexit.
That would be highly hypocritical.
It's extremely hypocritical for any Brexiter to be against Scottish Independence. Too bad that's exactly how it is. The ol "how can you want to be run by Brussels instead?".
Because the EU is a fucking union of independent nations who decide their own laws and policies, not suprised all the brainwashed idiots think the EU is the cause of all their problems. Then they happily ignore our own unelected lords and pointless MP's and parties. It's amazing being in a two party system of Labour and Tories right?
No Scotland is not independent country. Its part of United Kingdom whereas UK is an independent country which is part of EU that is not a country. There is a big difference between an independent country leaving a political union and constituent country seceding to become independent.
@@hiddenknowledge2012
Westminster agrees to all the Laws of the EU. It's why there is a whole fucking library of EU founded laws.
Labour and the Conservatives just like your worthless SNP bow down to EU supremacy, including the house of Lords you claim to hate so much.
Why do you think you have a "gotcha" moment when you name the same cunts who support our servitude to EU membership like you want?
Fuck the EU and fuck the Westminster system.
@@lennydale92 You are against a federation of country, but have no problem with lords taking up half the power of UK parlment?
Why not end the Lords BEFORE blaming the entire EU?
@@Shawouin
A huge amount of Brexiteers already oppose the house of Lords.
And the people voted to leave the EU. I know democracy is a foreign concept to remoaners like yourself but if we actually enact the will of the people then we can have conversations about the house of Lords.
Scotland as independent, bring a smile to my face!!!
love and support from greece!
Funny how people support Scottish independence but not UK independence even the arguments used by ScotNats are EXACTLY THE SAME as those used by Brexiteers. Methinks there is just a lot of anti English hate out there.
@@mogznwaz ,well of course English people have a lot of bad karma
They are thieves !! They need to give us back our history
@@fgiwrgos9972 You realise the scots helped in the empire aswell?
Plot twist: Scotland united with Ireland and Northern Ireland
Isaac Aren United Republic of Ireland and Scotland.
Enter Poblacht Gaelach / Poblachd Gàidhleach *waves imaginary flag*
@@grijnskat1879 A green flag with the white scottish cross wouldn't look half bad
We don't want the religious zealots in Ireland/Northern Ireland. Scotland is significantly less conservative than the Irelands.
@@TheSpacecraftX Can't speak for Northern Ireland but in Ireland, it's mostly the older generation that's conservative. Teens and young adults are extremely liberal. Even a bit too much
I love the idea that England wanted to leave the European Union because they were fed up of having to follow laws by people who weren’t in England, at the same time as they so stringently tell Wales Scotland and Northern Ireland what to do as part of the union of the United Kingdom. Such irony. Can’t have it both ways.
Same queen though. One sovereign.
"they so stringently tell Wales Scotland and Northern Ireland what to do as part of the union of the United Kingdom"
They don't actually. British consitutional development over recent decades has been one of constant devolution. The transfer of power has only been one way - away from Westminster and towards Hollyrood. It's the exact opposite of the European Union, where since its foundation power has been transferred away from national capitals to the centre.
That goes the other way too. Scotland using the exact same arguments for leaving the UK that Brexiteers use about leaving the EU but saying Brexit is stupid, and without any irony.
Scotland should declare UDI officially, and wait until the uproar. People would demand and scream and shout about it being wrong, people would celebrate and the proverbial would hit the fan. THEN, the Scottish government would say.. "ok, ok, so we put it to the people with an emergency vote.. Who wants to REJOIN the UK?"
Thank you for the fantastic work you've been doing :) I wish you all the best on your new journey
Would love to see a Scottish independence video covering economic risks and potential as well as EU entry requirements and if they will meet them. Big ask I know 👍🏽
Scotland has been offered automatic entrance to the EU once they're independent.
@Sebby 94 Using the words lie and fake news means nothing, either explain why it is a lie or STFU.
@@jimbabalou It's what is known as the Barroso doctrine that was outlined in the last 2014 vote. Scotland has to reapply and would not get automatic membership. International organisations don't work like that.
Jock Duff even if we had to reapply would we potentially be able to skip to the front of the queue so to speak?
@@TeckPanda That is less clear. It isn't like Scotland would have to wait for another country to become a member first simply because they applied before, as some might be tempted to think when the word queue is used, but there is a process a country has to undergo in order to join.
Some have suggested this would be easy as Scotland is already an EU member as part of the UK - so in theory, already meets the requirements. But there are potential issues. The UK was a fairly early member when it joined in the 1970's, so there could be some aspects Scotland could have to meet that it didn't in the 1970's and thus sidestepped when they were introduced. personally, I don't think this would be a major issue - but it is a potential stumbling block.
More pressing issues revolve around the UK's opt-outs and exceptions it had as part of the EU. Scotland, as a new member, has to negotiate a new position if it was an independent state. So if it wanted to keep any of the UK's opt-outs or negotiate new ones for itself (like, say, fishing rights and such), that would take time and thus add to the amount of time outside the EU.
Scotland could join the EEC, like Norway, and negotiate full EU membership from there - but that has its own disadvantages and would still take time to join.
All I can say for certain is that the EU pretty roundly rejected the idea Scotland could negotiate full EU membership in 18 months, as was floated by then SNP leader Alex Salmond in 2014.
So, potentially a few years outside the EU or longer is a safe bet. But no one is entirely certain given its unchartered waters.
Brexit could well be the beginning of the break up of the uk, especially with the prospect of irish reunification; brexit, ireland's strengthening economy and a demographic shift are 3 big reasons for this. and as for scotland, you've seen it in the video. we could be in for some very interesting, historic years ahead.
We need a video on Northern Ireland post-Brexit politics. Like Scotland, they voted to remain. Could leaving the EU lead to Irish Union or an independent Northern Ireland?
N Ireland could not be independent, we get 4 times our tax take from Westminster, and our politicians cant even run that properly,also and I'm tired saying this,many people who voted to remain would not vote for a United Ireland, and most of the protestant population would vote to stay in the uk,and many Catholics would do the same,the republic has been held up by the eu for 40 years,it now has to pay its way
Thank you for making these informative news videos. I’ve learnt a lot from your channel.
I wouldn't quit my Daytime job for CZcams. Not after what is happening with CZcams right now.
He's not relying just on CZcams, though. Check out his Patreon page. He's got 826 patrons earning him $4,712 per month. Even if he got thrown off CZcams tomorrow he'd survive just fine.
André Niemand He’s young enough to take that risk.
Big risk, big reward.
If you survive while a lot of channels get banned you will have a lower competition and bigger audience.
@@marcuscross8051 CZcams are famous for demonetising all independent news outlets for covering controversial topics, and Patroeon is currently under fire for banning many users arbitrarily without any justification in the terms of service
The experience he's getting from this channel makes will make him very employable if he decides to get another job.
Nobody:
UK: I'm gonna create absolute social economical and political chaos for myself now
Basically Brexit
Then Scotland leaves the UK and takes 70% of the UK's natural resources with us.
England wants Scotland's oil? Pay for it!
right on! independecy all the way!! independency for brittain! independency for scottsland! indenpendency for ireland! wooo all the way
I voted no in the last independence referendum because of the lack of detail around the practical details (institutions, standardisation responsibilities etc relating to my and my fathers jobs). However I’m now going to vote yes. Mainly because I now realise that it doesn’t matter what Scotland (or wales & NI) votes when you have England tipping the scales so drastically in their favour. Makes me think of the electoral college in the US (wether this democratically justifiable is up for debate, where do we underline the scale of democracy?). Another reason is spite. I’m not proud of this and it’s not my main reason but the sheer disregard and disdain shown at the idea of an independent Scotland makes my blood boil. If we are so inferior and spoon fed economically why are they not desperate to drop our parasitic arses. Lastly, every argument for Scotland to remain in the UK can be applied to the EU, and the hypocrisy I’m seeing is galling. Maybe England is our largest export partner but so is the EU to UK. Maybe it’s time for us to just go our own way and do the best with what we have. I don’t think the SNP will dominate an independent Scotland’s politics. The usual divides will reappear and other parties will emerge.
It is not so much "England " tipping the scales, as LONDON, under which, even the English regions lose out. The whole political set-up is crazy, with completely different powers devolved to the constituent countries. Perhaps a full federal system might work with regional English governments also might work, but what ever the Scots decide on independence, that should be accepted.
Mervyn Partin I fully agree with your point! I fully support an English parliament and possibly a federal like system. Making the English parliament in Birmingham or Leeds would send a large signal. London is already hugely multicultural and leaving the UK parliament their for symbolism and for sole foreign policy/defence matters. The north of England is severely under-utilised.
If the English were allowed to vote in a referendum about Scotland leaving you lovers of Braveheart might find we are sick of your bleating when you get a better deal than many of us south of the border. A hard border at Gretna and Berwick would be bad for us and appalling for you. It's the unintended consequences as well, I have a friend who is Scottish by birth and was told before the last referendum he would be dismissed from his job in the MOD immediately if Scotland voted to leave as he would become a foreign national. England couldn't allow Faslane to stay open and would ship everything south, the Scottish Regiments would be sent back for you to pay for. I'm not even thinking hard about all the other things. Once Scotland becomes a foreign county I think a lot of businesses that current treat England/Scotland as one entity might have to consider the cost of trading/supporting Scottish businesses. I'm sure eventually someone will fill the gaps but you will lose a lot of smaller businesses that can't afford two regulatory systems.
Uhuru Mkali see comments like this will break up the union. Threats and weaknesses. Amazing to see all that Scotland has put into the union and the building institution of the “UK” means nothing. Do you not think Scotland would be entitled to 8% (going by per capita rather than resources/area or innovators per capita) of everything. With that we could just keep faslane and others open no?
@@KelticStingray Well replied, and quite restrained after Uhuru's arrogance.
I'm intrigued that you think Scotland becoming independent would be simple. The UK has been a member of the EU for 25 years, before that the Common Market another 15. England and Scotland have been one United Kingdom for over 300 years.
The UK voted to leave the EU in June 2016. 3 years later we still can't agree on the divorce settlement. So what makes Scotland leaving the UK 'simple'?
Oh that's because it has been in everyone's interests except the UK's to make it difficult for the UK to leave the EU. The EU will embrace Scottish independence of course because one thing the EU and the ScotNats have in common is anti English hate. They will go out of their way go punish us for our 'crimes', whether long dead historical ones or for daring to dissent from the EUs desire to be a big bullying global superpower. Very Orwellian if you ask me.
A very fair video on Scottish independence! I am for independence and it’s good to see a unbiased video!
Imagine wanting "Independence" what on Earth could you gain from it? Reliance on oil? Massssssive budget deficits.
Whitey98 Scotland has so much more to offer the world, its the English that are scared THEY will lose their dependence on our oil 🤙
@@conorc725 One thing not really discussed at the moment is that England has a real issue with future water availability. Scotland has a considerable surplus. Add to that Scotland's renewable energy potential and the fact Scotland is at the forefront in the wave power industry. I think oil revenues will pale in to insignificance compared to these in the future
TLDR I'd buy a shirt with a Welsh flag model on it
Just admit it; you want a dragon shirt but don't want to look nerdy wearing it, don't you?
@@markkond8565
Mate, if you think that they'll avoid being nerdy by wearing a shirt with the Welsh flag on it (correction actually, a picture of Wales with the flag lain overtop, along with limbs and googly eyes) then I'm afraid you've got another thing coming XD.
So would I.
'model'?
Wales be flag in the world and anthem
the Scottish have been wittering about independence for decades. Nothing changes!!
How has the economic argument for Scottish independence changed since the 70s? Is the oil money still flowing? What are the current best estimates for the oil field reserves? How does that tally with future targets on green energy? It seems this is crucial to know before any future independence discussions.
Jimmy Mac Thanks for the response, very helpful!
Ah Brexit, the mess that keeps on giving.
It’s only a mess because of labour
hardly. Labour isn't the government and hasn't been since mid 2010. Tories had a majority, then blew it, and had to bring in the DUP. The tories can't agree on anything. If they could, we'd already be out, no matter what Labour thought.
@@bobdillion440 Or the fact the idiots who proposed it did not have a plan.
An now will force the UK to go through a very unnecessary hard time. Less prosperous, less say in its own economic affairs, lose control over the borders, and even lose threaten violence if they break the treaty it has with the IRA/Ireland (aka will lose territory). That is not even including the unseen nasty stuff we can't see.
@@bobdillion440 it's a Tory creation, overseen by a Tory government. The idea of calling a referendum was a mess to begin with. Hence why the architect of this mess swiftly ran away from it the day after the result. To say Labour is to blame for this makes no sense.
TheWinged Hussar how many plans did May put forward? how many where turned down by labour all but 1 so yes it is them that made it into a mess, look at the latest vote comrade corbyn tried to make it so a no deal brexit wouldn’t happen and his ow fucking party voted against him
I'm Scottish and will vote for independence if there is a referendum.
Not because of Brexit
Scotland has oil,country could be rich like Norway.
same we dont realise how much the European union would of fucked us over.
I’d love to see a video on the West Lothian question. And thank you; your integrity and impartiality is refreshing
Yes and evol english votes for english laws in the ''unity Uk parliament' No english parliament of their own though. Not since 1707. big fairies.
Also re west lothian quesiton. Mention all the decades it was majority labourmps from scotland and that snp only got 6 wastemonster seats in 2010 'uk' ge., So not snps fault really So brians axe has fell apart there
Excellent as ever. Thank you.
Hope your boss knew you were quitting before she saw this video!
Did you just assume her gender?
@@nerezza6517 would you have asked this question if he had assumed the boss was a 'he'?
@@Ronnet Yes I think I would have. It was a joke going off the back of Jason Todd's comment, the gender aspect wasn't overly important. But now I've explained the joke, and it's now a dead joke so...
A United Ireland and a free Scotland 🇮🇪🤝🏴
Aye but either way the bombs are back in Belfast. 😥
Scotland locked into EU membership hardly seems independent to me
Aye mun 😁
@@mfoco1 How come? They can leave whenever they want. Like the UK now, for example.
@@mfoco1 EU members are still independent, it just means open borders and keeps trade cheep.
I'm from england and I feel like I don't understand my country any more, so many english people think that Scotland leaving wouldn't effect us and that the EU needs the UK more than the UK needs the EU which is stupid. Its such an arrogant way to look at things, we are only a small country and definitly not the power we once were, so we need help and we need to be more agreeable and stop behaving like we are a big power when we're clearly not anymore.
I just think clearly, clearly staying in the EU is the better option and do not understand why other english people despite a NUMBER of people stating this'll hurt our ecomeny big time, why they refuse to listen. As a brit, I do love my country but I'm really starting to wonder if I really belong here, after so many people in our govement, and other people I know seriously believe we don't need the EU, or Scotland or Northern Ireland. If they get their own independence from the UK good for them but so many english people just don't care about them wanting to leave as if it won't effect our ecomeny or it won't effect us, when again, it clearly will.
I honestly think we're stronger together and just wish that the govement would see that and instead of behaving like Northern Ireland and Scotland behaving like we don't need them, they should actually take them seriously and make sure to treat them equally to England, which I don't understand why the UK isn't doing or why other brits aren't doing it. The UK is meant to be a union between countries, not certain countries are being payed more attention to than others.
(I haven't included Wales as an example as they also voted to leave the EU)
It feels just like immigrent hate going on that I also don't understand, when I was a child this sort of behavior was actually looked down on but now "immigrents" are stealing our jobs" has become the norm. Sure I don't mind tighter border control but seriously? Many times that in real life in England instead of online I've seen people have complained about "to many immigrents" but its been mostly old people who are retired, first what do you care, your retired though second, I've seen a lot of younger people not take getting a job seriously, then I'm like, you didn't get the job because you didn't work hard enough for it, not because their an immigrent.
Also if people think immiggrents are purposely getting jobs that we aren't just because their immigrents, not due to experience or how the interview/appilication for the job went then shouldn't the people hiring get investigated for being biased or something and not conducting recruitment fairly??? Not oh lets make it even harder for other people to get into our country and make our country seem even more unwelcoming to other countries.
Piper charms couldn’t agree more.
An excellent, well balanced report. I would pick up a few points, as you say independence is what the SNP is about, not EU membership, indeed in 1975 they led the No campaign in Scotland, opposing EEC membership. If you think about it, if you believe in national sovereignty, as they claim, that's the logical position on EU membership.
So why have they become passionate believers in the EU, well firstly it's that, as you alluded to, it's much easier for Scotland to be independent if both it and the UK were EU members, and it's no accident that the SNPs successful period as coincided with EU membership. Thats why we haven't seen any offer to support the Brexit Deal in return for a referendum on Independence, or some new devolved power. It's important for them to keep England in, so it's easier for Scotland to split away.
Secondly grievance is the SNPs greatest weapon, whether it is historic defeats and massacres, the Poll Tax, Tory Governmests Scots didn't vote for, the oil, and now being dragged out of the EU. All are just weapons in the armoury. The oil is no longer an economic arguement, but that doesn't make the SNP support for independence any less, it was never about the oil. Similarly though there was a surge of angry unionist remainers who said they would back independence, that quickly subsided, the issue of independence is much bigger than EU membership for most Scots on either side of the arguement.
So the impact of Brexit on the Union, it gives the SNP a new grievance to work with, but it makes the actual choice much starker, culturally and economically the rest if the UK is much more important to Scotland than the rest of the EU, choosing between them is a much harder sell. Over All I think the impact is not very great at all.
History of relations between England and Scotland before WWII?
Basically Scotland put all their national wealth in a chest and sailed to Panama with colonial ambitions. It completely failed, the country went bankrupt, and there was the act of union between it and England as a bail out.
@@jebbo-c1l UK looted India to fund Scotland
Michael James But in the end the Scottish earned personal union over England and formed the union England and Scotland with wales to make Great Britain 🇬🇧
@Michael James Yea not blaming the people of Scotland at the time. It was obviously an incredibly simplistic statement meant as a joke
Wasn't a good one, Churchill sent the tanks to Glasgow
Why didn’t our Brexit referendum include this clause?
Great point
Sterling Archer Because it was flawed from the beginning ( Vague Question, not taken seriously at first) and possibly because Cameron had a big Ego and think he would win easily (remain) as like in Indyref.
there was an act of parliament in 1707 that the English did not want neither did the scots and it is time to honour that and set the English free from the stuarts who caused all of the trouble
a few inaccuracies in this effort TLDR, "almost total control over taxation", "would have had to change their currency", both incorrect.
England: "Better not leave the UK or you'll be kicked out of the EU. BTW were leaving the EU and you have no choice but to come with us."
I’ve learned more about the UK from this channel than my government classes. Keep it up! Would love to see more videos on Northern Ireland/Ireland.
Can't wait for arlene to be teachoich haha
scottish independence is directly related to the price of oil. when the price of oil is high, the scotts dont need the rest of the uk anymore, but when the price is low they want to be in the uk.
the fact is the eu does not want scotland, because when the price of oil is low the eu will need to subsidise the jacobites like the rest of the uk has to.
It puzzles me why Scotland wants to be an independent country, only to ruled by the E.U.
Oh yay, so I am Scottish but I really don't want Scotland to go independent, it just doesn't seem to offer much benefits than if we stayed in the UK
🏴Freedoom is on the way🏴
Lmao your gonna last as long as Catalonia lasted after getting independence.
8:42 That voice crack xD
The whole oil argument makes zero sense. Every single drill belongs to an English company. So the tax on using these drills would be insane in order for England to make a good return on the maintenance and investment on the drills. Or Scotland could just build there own, but that would be cost millions that they just would not have if they left the UK. So in the economic impact could be devastating and unrecoverable for many years. This in turn would allow England to use this as leverage. Like it or not Scotland is better off remaining and it does indeed benefit both sides to remain UK.
I wish the rest of us had the option of leaving anytime something we disagree with happens.
Can you or have you do a video about the union history? I feel like i have a missing link there like how this big union come together
Scotland was broke and needed and wanted to trade with the colonies so they signed up and then flourished . Had they not they would have stayed bankrupt but the English payed of there bills for them. And it will happen again if they go for independence because the eu have no need for any more p poor tiny countries .
@Allington Marakan My god when you go blind in one eye you really do go blind. If that what you believe your as mad as nippy. "borrow a huge sum of money from the Scottish treasury" Lets have some proof from you on that one.
The missing link is the poison little barsteward who poses as the first minister.
@Allington Marakan Seldom have I seen so many accurate unwelcome truths, delivered with such vigour and passion, to such wilfully ignorant self blinkered numpties. I agree with everything you said above. But we'll never truly have our homeland back until we have full sovereign independence. Neither shall Scotland be all that She can be, until the wrongful possession of our lands is restored to those of us who seek to properly steward it as both natural environment and productive homesteads. I think it's high time the posh speaking English who call themselves 'Lairds' were told:
"You can keep the house and 4 acres, the rest belongs to the people who have the right to settle and improve the land, as freehold stewards."
That would be a Scotland that would prosper, and be worth fighting for.
Short answer...no
England took Northern Ireland please do your facts right.
Nope. The Ulster plantations were mostly Scottish settlers.
Northern Ireland had a referendum and voted to Remain in the UK. No-one has forced them.