Ratchet & Clank - Did Talwyn Know Anything About Angela Cross?

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  • čas přidán 20. 03. 2018
  • In the Ratchet & Clank comics, Artemis Zogg brings up Max Apogee's disappearance, telling Talwyn that he left her behind just to save another Lombax while also escaping to another dimension.
    Did Talwyn know about Angela? Did she have any idea that Apogee knew another Lombax? Ratchet found out about Angela and Apogee's theorised whereabouts over the radio, did Talwyn know?
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Komentáře • 109

  • @VtnVivi
    @VtnVivi  Před 6 lety +21

    One more thing, Talwyn was familiar with Lombax language and had knowledge about them. Perhaps her father had taught her a few tips and tricks. With that, would Apogee still hide Angela from her, never mentioning her, assuming he was working with her in advance? If so why? Why keep it secret? I'm thinking she just never had knowledge of Angela Cross, meaning her father did pretty much escape last minute under difficult circumstances, no time to introduce Angela to Talwyn.

    • @BrennySpain
      @BrennySpain Před 6 lety

      Hey VTNVIVI I know this isn't really related to RATchet and clank, but I actually heard something that the spyro remastered trilogy for PS4 was meant to get announced last week, but there was too much hype surrounding the announcement, so apparently it's been delayed until today or so I heard. So we'll have to wait and see do you agree?

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 6 lety

      March 29th maybe we shall wait :)

    • @BrennySpain
      @BrennySpain Před 6 lety

      It's definitely gonna be tmrw no doubt. The crash bandicoot n sane trilogy is getting a livestream

    • @VongolaXZax
      @VongolaXZax Před rokem

      @@VtnVivi lol

  • @coolgirl2044
    @coolgirl2044 Před 6 lety +18

    Perfect idea for a potential sequel to into the nexus is to have Ratchet and Clank go on an adventure with Talwyn in search of Max apogee and Angela.

    • @mikeehrmantraut1899
      @mikeehrmantraut1899 Před 5 lety

      agreed maybe add some hints or romance between Talwyn and Ratchet

    • @arrownoir
      @arrownoir Před 4 lety

      Tim Dinh They’re already a couple.

  • @james739123
    @james739123 Před 4 lety +7

    Talwyn: You knew about Angela and didn't say anything?
    Ratchet: … You umm... never really gave me a chance to say anything.
    Talwyn: 8l
    Clank: To be fair, you could have said you did know Angela.

  • @ZAD720
    @ZAD720 Před 6 lety +16

    I wish they would make more ratcher and clank games going off of crack in time

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 6 lety +8

      Absolutely! Angela is theorised to have escaped with Apogee. Talwyn finds her father, Ratchet finds his race.

    • @ZAD720
      @ZAD720 Před 6 lety +2

      Oh what an amazing story to see/ play

    • @TheJuicyJediJester
      @TheJuicyJediJester Před 6 lety +1

      ZAD you mean into the nexus mate. Full frontal assault, all 4 one and into the nexus are the canon continuations of the series after a crack in time.
      I know you most likely mean retconning those and making another separate continuation but i don't see the big deal about them staying canon and continuing from there.

    • @ZAD720
      @ZAD720 Před 6 lety +1

      The Juicy Jedi jester nope. I say scratch all that and make a new story after crack in time, just my opinion though.

    • @TheJuicyJediJester
      @TheJuicyJediJester Před 6 lety +1

      ZAD i get that it's your opinion but i don't see why those stories need to be scrapped. They don't hurt the story.

  • @isauldron4337
    @isauldron4337 Před 6 lety +6

    I honestly think that insomniac didn't want to confuse everybody after the retcon in tools of destruction, so so they only mention angela Cross passing by so that it doesnt become a chaos
    Honestly, a better question would be why didnt they give an excuse for the dissapearance of Angela cross in tools of destruction?
    Honestly, theorising about the lombaxes is a little bit confusing.
    Like most of the plot of tools of destruction

  • @Nooblitz_74
    @Nooblitz_74 Před 6 lety +9

    I hope to see Angela again in the future of the series or reboot

    • @RyanV-nl4bg
      @RyanV-nl4bg Před 3 lety

      In the sequel of the reboot with Alister and the rift apart female lombax

  • @TheStarLombax
    @TheStarLombax Před 6 lety +11

    When I played the game "Going Commando" for the first time I doubted if Angela was of the same species as Ratchet because I expected that the female Lombax had the same size of ears and had a tail, the difference would be that they had feminine features like the thinnest face. It was in "A crack in time" when they told the truth on the radio so I assumed that Ratchet had the same expectation as me, both he and me never saw someone of the same species so maybe Ratchet didn't mention Angela to Talwyn because he never knew that she was a Lombax.
    Or maybe Ratchet and Max Apogee are not very communicative with Talwyn from the people they know, it may not be too important to tell her.
    In case Talwyn doesn't know about Angela, it is very rare that Max Apogee hasn't already told her, in her photo as a girl it was seen that her father showed her what he did as a explorer, it is strange that she doesn't know about the feminine lombax
    In case Talwyn does know about Angela, it would only be enough If Ratchet or Talwyn mention Angela to start talking about what they know about her. It would be great to see that conversation in a comic or a cutscene

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 6 lety +4

      For the radio broadcast, I personally take some of the things mentioned as a simple theory like female Lombaxes not having tails. They could have tails, just Angela maybe lost hers in a crazy accident. Thanks for sharing.

    • @prich0382
      @prich0382 Před 4 lety +1

      @@VtnVivi It is confirmed that Angela is a Lobax and that they don't have tails

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 4 lety +3

      @@prich0382 Confirmed she is a Lombax? Yes by TJ Fixman former writer. As for no tails, it's possible it was an assumption on the radio host's part, but many take that as confirmation.

    • @Ang3LofSp4rK
      @Ang3LofSp4rK Před 3 lety +1

      My personal favourite headcanon is that lombaxes just have varying subspecies like cat breeds IRL, hence the anatomical diffs between Ratchet and Angela (the height diff can just be an individual thing though, like how humans can be varying heights).
      Another one I found recently, in some fan-work, female lombaxes just have shorter tails, hence why you can't see Angela's - she can fit it inside her suit a lot easier than Ratchet (cough cough Deadlocked).
      TBH though Insomniac could fix this whole Angela mess in like one sentence.

  • @PokemonkaDub
    @PokemonkaDub Před 6 lety +4

    I always had a headcanon that Angela is a half-lombax... I think that would solve many (tail related) fan problems.

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 6 lety +4

      Or she lost it during an accident at Megacorp.

    • @PokemonkaDub
      @PokemonkaDub Před 6 lety +1

      That was also one of my theories.

  • @tabreezsiddique
    @tabreezsiddique Před 6 lety +3

    0:30 - I actually took screenshots of certain parts of the pages that captured my interest.
    0:54 - Maybe he did so to keep Talwyn safe and away from the truth?
    1:32 - Oh I wanted to hear Zephyr's narration! :(
    1:54 - If she did then I highly doubt that she even knew her name. :/
    3:33 - Maybe she would keep it from Ratchet simply because she doesn't want to talk about it.
    5:05 - XD
    6:00 - J's Reviews didn't think either of them cared for one another enough to look harder. :/
    7:12 - Who knows at this point?
    7:56 - That was one of the biggest gripes J's Reviews had with the story of the Future series.
    8:30 -Always happy to watch. :)

  • @Dzzy123
    @Dzzy123 Před 3 lety +1

    If Max Apogee left this dimension to save a Lombax, maybe this plot point will come back in Rift Apart. Dr. Nefarious has the Dimensionator so there's a chance we could find Max will hopping between rifts. I also wonder if Tachyon could return in Rift Apart. I think I saw a Cragmite-looking creature in the demo.

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 3 lety +1

      The banner with a Drophyd in Megalopolis you mean? Would IG really bring back Angela...I wonder.

  • @royal1015
    @royal1015 Před 6 lety

    Nice video Vivi , still think that all these questions might gone with the reboot .
    As for Angela and Max , I think those two will be always a mystery , the best thing we can get from them is the references, nothing more . Insomniac might intended to keep this part of the lore mysterious .

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 6 lety +1

      I wish they'd explore it though :(

  • @JNT737
    @JNT737 Před 6 lety +1

    Mmmm you know, I never really thought that. Thanks for doing this video ^^

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 6 lety +1

      No problem thanks for watching.

  • @Purecradle
    @Purecradle Před 6 lety +2

    It's a shame we still haven't seen anything on Angela. I always wanted a new adventure focusing on these two, the last two lombaxes teaming together for adventure sounds great. At least the longer it takes for her to appear the better she'll end up looking graphically lol.

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 6 lety +2

      They can easily bring her back, I don't understand the trouble IG is having.

  • @jakylacky358
    @jakylacky358 Před 6 lety

    Vivi this might be off topic but by any chance you made a video about the plumber I have a few things to say about the plumber he might be a little involved in our topic of this video

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 6 lety

      I did make a video talking about him in the past :)

  • @ewanthethingdoer
    @ewanthethingdoer Před 6 lety

    Hey, VIVI! Did you hear that Target leaked the Spyro Remake yesterday?

  • @user-ok3mk5xy8e
    @user-ok3mk5xy8e Před 2 měsíci

    Good afternoon! Could you add English subtitles to this video? I am translating from English and I really need the text for an accurate translation. I will be very grateful to you.

  • @NordiusOfficial
    @NordiusOfficial Před 6 lety +4

    Ooo Talwyn!

  • @zeratul____1228
    @zeratul____1228 Před 6 lety

    I wonder if the Lombaxes are going to return at some point on their own. See they escaped to another dimension and if Angela and Max used the Dimensionator to escape from Tachyon they have to know that if they found it then someone else could.

  • @ghostofsentric
    @ghostofsentric Před 5 lety

    I personally feel like angelas existence was an oversight, more so to simply retcon her without being blantant about the fact it didnt happen

  • @sinisorsia6604
    @sinisorsia6604 Před 6 lety

    I liked this video!

  • @timsheppard6204
    @timsheppard6204 Před 6 lety

    1:25 i love that he's like wtf are you looking at btw #itwasallajoke

  • @Ang3LofSp4rK
    @Ang3LofSp4rK Před 3 lety +1

    T: You said you've never seen another Lombax before!
    R: Oh, Angela's a lombax. Ya don't say! Eh-heh-heh... uh... Clank, say something.
    C: Apologies, it did not occur to Ratchet at the time that Angela might have been a lombax. His brain was preoccupied by the astonishing revelation of her gender.
    R: CLANK!

  • @ZeldaSam1
    @ZeldaSam1 Před 6 lety +1

    Random question: "Have you seen an old TV show called Dragon Booster?"
    If yes I'll explain why.

  • @adelapechova5207
    @adelapechova5207 Před 6 lety +2

    Talwyn never see that lombax, what Max Apooge saved.
    That means, she didn't know, if that lombax is girl or boy...
    BTW : Nice video Pal :3

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 6 lety +2

      She must have known about Angela after the radio broadcast surely.

  • @suntannedduck2388
    @suntannedduck2388 Před 6 lety

    While I get what you mean, I actually jumped my thoughts to Ratchet's father, but its probably impossible due to timing but I'm not knowledgeable to talk so probably ignore it. If only we knew more about Angela though, sigh. Still glad you brought this subject matter up.

    • @suntannedduck2388
      @suntannedduck2388 Před 6 lety

      Also saying it was a random lombax is copping out so I don't know but it fits with other hints sprinkled in. Hmm.

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 6 lety

      I see.

  • @carlostucker3738
    @carlostucker3738 Před 6 lety

    Vivi I see what you're getting at i'll do some research on this

  • @psntriz3498
    @psntriz3498 Před 6 lety

    Vivi do why did Penelope like sly in 3 but not in four even when he wasn't around ???

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 6 lety +1

      Slight crush, but then fell for Bentley. We don't know how much time passed between 3 & 4, during that time Penelope started disliking Sly.

  • @crazyj2813
    @crazyj2813 Před 6 lety

    And I think the Sly Cooper TV Show will come out this year not 2019 because that other comment you sent was something I doubt.

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 6 lety

      2019 I predict Season 1. Pilot maybe late 2018.

  • @sassyart10
    @sassyart10 Před 6 lety +1

    Yeah, no. Max studied Lombaxes, so once he heard Angela- a Lombax -was in danger, he probably went swooping in to save her because she was a Lombax and that's it. Why would he tell Talwyn "oh hey, gotta go save a Lombax named Angela Cross." That doesn't make much sense, does it?

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 6 lety

      What I mean by last minute is he didn't have time to tell Talwyn, that's what I'd imagine.

    • @sassyart10
      @sassyart10 Před 6 lety

      VTNVIVI Perhaps. But Talwyn isn't the only one who is also familiar with the Lombax language or history, which was one of your big points in the comments. Qwark also knew the Lombax language and Croid knew the species and what they liked(i.e. Ratchet liked the food he gave him).

    • @asiajordan5759
      @asiajordan5759 Před 3 lety

      @@sassyart10 oh that scientist from all for one?

  • @alexanderthewolf9435
    @alexanderthewolf9435 Před 6 lety +1

    Do you think that they can make a TV series of ratchet and clank

    • @CasualNerd125
      @CasualNerd125 Před 6 lety +1

      They could. But they probably won't.

    • @Alimem54
      @Alimem54 Před 6 lety

      Noh

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 6 lety

      They won't. As for a crossover that's different ;p

  • @atomicace1551
    @atomicace1551 Před 6 lety

    I wonder if Max abudgie is hiding in the Bogon on Galaxy cuz when I played the game on crack in time they said they found his ship heading back towards what are the dimension of the first was maybe he ditched it and stayed in the bogan Galaxy still doesn't make sense why ratchet didn't mention further into the series that he already knew Angela cross but would that mean Max abudgie would have stayed with Angela cross to keep her safe where did he go somewhere else man this is hurting my brain LOL Insomniac Games just left the series in a troubling Loop hopefully we'll find out when future games 😣😩😂 and FYI I am sorry if I spell couple things wrong I didn't know how and FYI I am sorry if I spell couple things wrong couple those names might not be correctly spelled

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 6 lety +1

      Apparently Angela was spotted escaping with Apogee's ship. Was Apogee with her at that instant we are not sure.

  • @tirzahroseroot
    @tirzahroseroot Před 6 lety +1

    I imagine this would be brought up in my universe. Ratchet tells us about knowing her (Angela) and Alister Azimuth. He explains that the last he herd of Angela was that Tachyon was targeting her and she fled to the Lombax dimension with Max Apogee's help. Alister was killed while stabbelizing the Great Clock at the end of A Crack in Time. Ratchet has more trouble with his death though since he connected more to Alister.

  • @maxthethief155
    @maxthethief155 Před 6 lety

    Theres a secret in ratchet and clank after you collect all the gold bolts u can see the japanse trailers and old game weapons and well a giant screen and two chairs what can that mean maybe nothing of theirs two people with a lot of power

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 6 lety

      Two chairs? Hmm...

    • @maxthethief155
      @maxthethief155 Před 6 lety

      VTNVIVI yeah it can be a figer that has power also they could have told the plumer what was gonna happen of again it can be just a easter egg that can mean nothing

  • @CasualNerd125
    @CasualNerd125 Před 6 lety

    I think we need a talwyn spinoff game.

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 6 lety +1

      What would it be about though?

    • @CasualNerd125
      @CasualNerd125 Před 6 lety +2

      Maybe about her adventures with ratchet and finding her father? Plus the ratchet and clank universe is HUGE. It can't be that hard to find something awsome for talwyn to do.

  • @MiniZurkon8008
    @MiniZurkon8008 Před 6 lety +1

    Arrrrr... me wee cannon balls! 8:51

  • @madtiels_madness
    @madtiels_madness Před 6 lety

    Have you ever thought that Nethers and the Zoni are from the same dimension?

    • @madtiels_madness
      @madtiels_madness Před 6 lety

      NinjaRatchet RYNO The great clock is in Ratchet's universe, but the real name of "the Zoni dimension" wasn't told to us, so I suppose that it's the Netherverse

    • @madtiels_madness
      @madtiels_madness Před 6 lety

      I noticed that the Zoni and Nethers got the same colors and they booth can't live in Ratchet's universe without armors

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 6 lety

      The Zoni dimension was never named. But I believe they are separate.

  • @NotOrdinaryInGames
    @NotOrdinaryInGames Před 6 lety +1

    I don't think Ratchet and Angela are very close friends.
    What does Angela do for a living now that she is a permanent citizen of another dimension?

  • @akeem4772
    @akeem4772 Před 6 lety +2

    maybe in the next game ratchet could explain that Angela told ratchet to keep her identity a secret for some important reason. and that this all happened in the past behind the scenes. not shown in the games yet.

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 6 lety

      If true, that happened behind the scenes but why is the question.

  • @BugsyFoga
    @BugsyFoga Před 6 lety

    You know I'm not honestly sure .

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 6 lety

      Small things like these can add so much more weight to the story :)

  • @user-og9dc6vt3p
    @user-og9dc6vt3p Před 3 lety

    8:51

  • @user-og9dc6vt3p
    @user-og9dc6vt3p Před 3 lety

    1:26

  • @TimeLords910
    @TimeLords910 Před 3 lety

    VIVi is tawlyn ratchet’s girlfriend

  • @mrwizzardknight
    @mrwizzardknight Před 5 lety

    Hia mate! :) You ok pal? :) Oh, oh! I’ve got my own little theory about Courtney Gears! 😃😃😃 XD I think she’s Britney Spears, roboticized! 😱😱😱 I mean, why Skidd gets roboticized Courtney says to him; “It doesn’t hurt, much!” And were Insomniac games seriously worried they’d be sewed for copyright just for saying “roboticize” from SEGA of America!? 😝😝😝😝 Also, being a robot in the Ratchet and Clank universe is slightly pointless! XD Yeah! They never have to put up with all them day to day things that us flesh and blood creatures have to. Er... Sort of! But in Ratchet and Clank One, Clank calls that computer his mum, so it begs the question how do the robots, reproduce or get made or whatever! XD Granted Hasbro hasn’t explained that to wor about the transformers! XD Oh, oh! And in one of the games from the original trilogy, you can see a metal roast chicken and Clank’s apparently a vegetarian so the robots MAY be robots on the outside yet they’ve got animal functions on the inside pretty much like that Disney Pixar’s Cars theory! XD

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 5 lety +1

      Everyone compared Courtney Gears to Britney ;)

    • @mrwizzardknight
      @mrwizzardknight Před 5 lety

      VTNVIVI Haha! XD I should’ve known it! 😂😂😂 And what kind of creature is er... Tawlyn supposed to be? She looks like some kind of elf human from Jak and Daxter with a rat’s tail! XD And rock on Tara Strong! ;) 😃😃😃😃 Showing wor her Twilight Sparkle voice playing the voice of Talwyn 3 years BEFORE My Little Pony Friendship is Magic! 😃😃😃😃 XD

  • @MiniZurkon8008
    @MiniZurkon8008 Před 6 lety +2

    Dude what If Angela Cross is Talwyn's mom?! I mean we have never heard of her mom...

    • @royal1015
      @royal1015 Před 6 lety

      O_O

    • @Alimem54
      @Alimem54 Před 6 lety +2

      The father is quark 👌
      (Lol)

    • @MiniZurkon8008
      @MiniZurkon8008 Před 6 lety

      jahmi 97454 You are wierd...

    • @Alimem54
      @Alimem54 Před 6 lety

      NetherFreak YT bluuuuuuurbbbbbbbbbbbbbssssss
      Pipi

    • @VtnVivi
      @VtnVivi  Před 6 lety +1

      Plat twesstttt!!!!!!!!!!

  • @psntriz3498
    @psntriz3498 Před 6 lety

    bet vtnvivi won't pin me :p

  • @user-og9dc6vt3p
    @user-og9dc6vt3p Před 3 lety

    1:25