Jay Z Vs. Nas
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"were you abused as a child, scared to smile, they called you ugly? well life is harsh hug me"
"IM BACK BEFORE YOU HAD A CHANCE TO MISS ME MY MOMMA CANT SAVE YOU THIS TIME NIGGAS IS HISTORY WHO YOU KNOW MORE VICIOUS AS ME AND SO RELIGIOUSLY THATS WHY THEY CALL ME HOV I GET THE SPOILS CAUSE THE VICTOR IS ME NIGGA YOUR AN ACTOR YOUR NOT WHO YOU DEPICTED TO BE YOU STREET DREAMING ALL YOU NIGGAS LIVING THROUGH ME I GAVE YOU LIFE WHEN NIGGAS WAS FORGETTING YOU MC IM A LEGEND YOU SHOULD TAKE A PICTURE WITH ME SHOULD BE HAPPY TO BE IN MY PRESENCE I SHOULD CHARGE YOU A FEE IM BIG DAWG GLEN ROB LISTEN GOD YOU A FLEA AND YOUR BROTHER JUNGLE JUST A FUCKING GARDEN TO ME"..
I love all those lines
2ToTheDome to be honest that verse ain't even that hard
Lmao childish shots, Jay > Nas
Luka MG Jay first hit was through rush hour soundtrack otherwise niggas would've never been big that movie was so big it lifted him to the masses. Nas been on movie soundtrack way before Jay.
this should be called Jay-Z vs. Drake though....
Nas wins. Always has, always will.
These niggas don't know what the lines mean in ether. You had to be around the environment to know why he said what he said why he won.. period. And they value album sales too much, which don't fuckin matter. "What's sad is I love you cuz you my brother YOU TRADED YOUR SOUL FOR RICHES" Get the fuck out of here. Nas not speaking to these type of corny ass outsiders.
Nkosi Khnum they didn’t even consider it at all. Smh.
Depends tho. From a technical standpoint nas is better. Talking sales jay z is better.
Nas didn't say fuck Jay Z... That's 2Pac in the beginning. Lol he got dissed by two legends in one year. Jay Z is great, but Nas is more respected because he represents the culture. Jay was more commercial and hopped on trends. Same with the Kendrick Lamar vs Drake convo.
When it comes to skill as an MC, Nas destroys Jay. When it comes to commercial success, Jay-Z got it. Plain and simple.
ATL Steelo not plain and simple. You're wrong.
Ur TheDuke I thought we did too. Apparently not haha.
MegaStansfield How am I wrong?
When it comes to lack of intelligence, you've got that covered.
+Theta Max What exactly is your point?
it was written is the most underrated album of all time
Illmatic was too good. Nobody talks about the other albums
Agreed my dude
illmatic wasn't his best album. I'd put It was written or God's Son over Illmatic anyday
Definitely in the argument
N.I.* * E. R. is definitely more underrated
nas won people saying jay z was spitting facts well I disagree sayin one hot album every ten year average false It was written is a classic
Bmore24 t exactly it was written out sold ready to die
IAM was a solid album too and shits on Vol 3 which which came out the same year in 99.
Also it's technically only 6-7 years
StillMatic and Gods Son are kinda underrated
When Jay says "One was uhhhhh, the other was Illmatic" he means it was written was uhhhh. Jay-Z is spitting facts. Nas was just calling him gay. Hov the GOAT
IF YOU THINK JAY Z ISN'T LYRICAL, HE'S GOING OVER YOUR HEAD.
I mean how would I be able to understand Nas and not Jay. I think mostly his lyrics are corny and they dont come to me as natural as Nas. I cringe sometimes I listen to Jay attempt to get personal and emotional. His wordplay tho is top tier i acknowledge that.
Judba Kilam listen to You Must Love Me & Lost Ones
Jay Z lyrics are meant to go over your head they are shrouded. Nas gives you the keys and lets you know he’s saying something. Which i don’t like if it ain’t a quotable don’t say it
Nas is the greatest dawg!
Low key disappointed that they agreed on who won the jay z and nas beef. Would have loved to see that argument between these two
Both Hov and Nas have multiple great albums, but only one of them has the best hip hop album of all time (Illmatic). Also during their beef Nas had by far the better dis track
Jordan Walls I want ether, gods son, stillmatic, illmatic, it was written; but don't get me wrong, I also like old school jay z
M SBC listen to stillmatic life is good hip hop is dead I'm not gonna lie Nas had some flops but garbage post 98 you dumb af
M SBC There is no bad song on illmatic.
M SBC BRUH thank you. I've been saying this for so long. No one wants to hear the truth
M SBC illmatic is overrated af. Always being held up as the staple in the hip hop community smh like chill. It ain't even all that
This was more Jay Z vs Drake than Jay Z vs Nas
NAS IS GOAT
Pac*
Anston Dam Pac is so overrated i mean sure his songs can help you through touh times, but lyrically, nas is the best ems 2nd best Kendricks 3rd,atleast for the passive rap listener.
word is bond.
he is boring as fuck. Kendrick, pac or big L
+adrian anane Kendrick you're joking rigth dont put him with big l
And they got to stop disrespecting modern hip hop like we ain't got spitters. Kendrick, Vince, ScHoolboy, Jay Rock, Run the Jewels, Joey Bada$$, Flatbush Zombies, Freddie Gibbs, Big Sean, J Cole, and the list goes on.
I love these kinds of segments.
Did any one of y'all note the fact that Justin's always smiling ALWAYS! Hip Hop needs u. Love ur spirit, Sir🙏🙌
I love listening to these while I'm at work
Drake is a pop artist. We need to stop having him in rap conversations.
These videos always have some really insightful comments and not much toxicity. I always learn so much about hip-hop from all of you.
Lol nas is the goat. Chill and accept it
This nigga said Jay z didn't cross over like Drake or had more hits lol you need to take a day off and come back tomorrow sir
Anthony G Take a day off ? Shit he needs to be fired for his statements. That goes to show you how a lot of these cats aren't up on the knowledge and I'm not a big Jay-Z fan . These cats had to look up when Reasonable Doubt came out. Lol
Jay has never been a singer. Drake gets you excited when he actually has a real rap record. Crossover success refers to changing music to reach different demographics. Jay has changed his sound and reached more people but Drake is referred to as a rapper but he is more of an R&B artist now. Conversational context is important.
BlackMusicGenre Rite..like Jay ain't sell out Madison Square Garden & didn't win 21 Grammy's lol white people
Anthony G Lol. I know right ? The white dude is speaking mostly from what he feels and not what he knows .
BlackMusicGenre Can't be a guest in Hip Hop with an opinion without doing your research
Pharoahe Monch never gets mentioned; he is a beast...
ether is better since this song i couldnt take jay serious anymore i cant listen to his music without thinking about ether
why Me! legit bro, every time I see anything about Jay I just think of Ether
Justin, mad love to you for the Meet The Parents shout out. You're the only dude I know who appreciates that song as much as I do lol
Wtf thought this was NAS vs Jay... not drake half the time
"nobody from colorado allowed to call no more" lmfaoooooooooooooooooooooooo
I'm starting to like these conversations I'm also starting to like the hosts attitude he kinda cool dude once you get to know ow his style. Keep up the conversation guys amazing show
this video should've been titled JayZ vs Drake
This was more jay vs drake
did that caller imply Drake could wash Jay Z in a rap beef 😂😂😂 y'all wilding
"Hov held yall down for 6 Summers. Damn where's the love?"
takeover vs ether
I feel takeover was a better beat and was more catchy
but ether did what a lot of diss songs don't do. It discredits not Jay Z as a name but Jay Z as a person.
Ether made Jay look like less than a man.
There were moments in ether that made you question jay z' s whole character.
Takeover didn't do that for me
Well said bro. Ether broke down Sean Carter the man. That 3rd verse was a psychological beatdown. Ether made takeover irrelevant and at that time takeover was suppose to knock nas out.
@@jjjayden8964 but it was all liesss lol
Thinking Jay-Z is better than Nas is ridiculous.
Aaqib Alyas intelligent peeps like Nas, idiots like Jay. its that simple really, never seen a jay fan who isn't a plastic unintelligent asshole.
facts!
Aaqib Alyas Agreed...
Sit down bro somewhere! jay z is a big time rapper. Nas is an Iconic Classic God Emcee!
then I guess I'm ridiculous
4:44 changes this conversation.
You mean lost tapes 2
King's Disease
@@yz_counsel4003 kD is better than 4:44.
"Bro you are dumb as fuck " 😂😂😂
Keep choosing these great topics👍🏼
Drake will go down as one if the most overrated artists of all time man I swear
TheManWithNoPlan so does jay z
Simultaneously the most overrated and most ANNOYING artist of all time as well.
I am in the understanding that Jay-Z is the artist and NAS is the lyricist. Jay-Z on Reasonable Doubt and The Black Album was the last time he got intensely and deeply poetic. NAS always kept up on the Hip-Hop Poetry, ditching Pop songs and Club Hits in favor of the lyrical craft of HipHop. Jay-Z, to I, was more commercially successful than NAS because of Jay-Z's ear for beats and sound. NAS suffered on the quality of beats but always, to I, delivered impactful beautiful Hip-Hop Poetry that educated and enlightened I's mind. I want Jay-Z to return to his Reasonable Doubt days because the way he flowed on it, the word choice, the picture he painted was so vivid and inspiring. I always felt whoever produced or mixed Reasonable Doubt fucked up on the Volume the Songs bump at. All his later albums came through with more Bass or possibly a Higher Volume measure. My point being, Nas is the Lyricist to Jay-Z's artistry. They ought to borrow from each other and develop a more well-rounded Game. So as to make the World a better place.
25 mins /26 mad respect. 💯 mans deadass said wut I was losing my shi bout the whole time 😂💯
I be Up early on a Saturday Morning like Ima kid waiting for my cartoons to come on🤣🤣🤣🤣
Ether was one of the best diss tracks ever.
Nas is way better then jay z
like the blueprint pun at 9:20
Loving this show
Producer goat breakdowns?
RZA or Pete Rock
man you gotta put zaytoven in there man
DJ Premier, RZA, and Havoc
El-P, Preemo, and Kanye (put the mic down Kanye)
unun septium El p?? you must be like 13 years old lol.
nas is the God Bow down
Juan Munoz
"Long live the legends, may they forever be idols, never your rivals. Pac is like Jesus, Nas wrote the bible" - J Cole
If you are a God then stop a bullet "homie".
Roulette VisionZ you got a false perception and follow a fictional book most likely. You got an idea god is some mythical force of indestructibility and creations lmaooo.
No. I believe that humans are humans. You need food to survive right? A true god wouldn't.
Roulette VisionZ theres the mythical concept again homie. Learn what the 4 most important atoms are and realize its the same for humans and the universe. We are 1
Justin, love your debates with Jude on Hip Hop's greatest. One MC I never hear you guys mention is Kool Keith. This guy has been doing it for over 30 years now and still going, and I'm not a new york guy, lived in cali my whole life. I'd put my money on Kool Keith in a freestyle battle any day, dude can spit. He may not have a chart topping catalog but his stuff ( especially with Dan the Automator and Kutmasta Kurt) is some of the most original Hip Hop to this day with nothing ever sounding like it. Just think he is an honorable mention at least. I saw him at a show last year and the guy is 53 is still putting it down.
I find myself consistently agreeing with Justin on almost all music opinions lol
Respect ✊🏽
Jay has influenced the culture more than Nas or Drake ever did. Illmatic is the best album any of them have ever done but Jay's catalog is stronger than Nas or Drake's by miles.
Nas catalog is better than jay but jay is pop thats why he has more hits
Wtf ? You mean nas
Nas' albums are stronger then Jay-Z. Jay-Z came out with Change clothes.
Nah, Nas brought slow lyrical spitting back in the era of quick tongue twisting shit. Jay was massive but Illmatic is one of the most influential albums in hip hop
Click bait title
THANK YOU!!!
The guy that called in saying Jay Z had Big L killed had me rolling 😂🤣🤦🏽♂️
Same 😂💯
everyone keeps talking about illmatic... gods son, life is good and reasonable doubt (w Damien marley) are some of his best work after illmatic
Lincoln Valavala you forgot it was written which smashed reasonable doubt
Mr. D dayum forgot to add that on...
I think you mean Distant Relatives my dude, Reasonable doubt is a Jay Z project
reasonable doubt is jay z
Nas won the battle but Jay Z won the war
Capo Anderson If that's the case then Nas won the war winning battle.
Obstacle Course Yes because Nas was the one cutting Jay z's checks *sarcasm*
Capo Anderson the employee could one day be better than the boss look at eminem and dre
Capo Anderson There was no war... Ether happened than they both moved on shortly after. faux angles
Nickie Nick They were sending subs and diss tracks at each other for 10 years until Nas signed to Def Jam Im pretty sure that was no battle
"on the run" off of Jay's last album was KINDA a hit .A great song in my opinion .
If the album is bumping vibing or Chill Vibes from beginning to end it's a classic
NAS IS THE GREATES OF ALLLLLLLLLLLLLL TIME- KANYE WEST voice
Nas Or Jay-Z Huh...? I Jus Love Hip Hop, They Both Had/Have Sumthin Different 2 Offer 2 The Hip Hop Game As A Whole... Gotta Respect Them Both In Regards 2 The Love Of Hip Hop Music...
I wanna hear how Justin and Jude feel about art rappers (if that's the term?) like milo, aesop rock, open mike eagle
Jay z has bought his own records as well
how do you get to a discussion with 0.00 fact? I mean..you a .radio host but yet doesnt know how many #1 albums Jigga has despite the fact that he is a big name in Hip Hop?
NAS IS THE GOAT
hey Justin and Jude if I can make a request can y'all talk about the moral issue or what have you about the use of nigga in hip hop I don't have a problem with it all I'm asking for is an explanation better then "sucka nigga" from the album "the low end theory" by a tribe called quest and Eazy-E interviews
I couldnt even finish this joint.
Let me know when you get back to the old style
Big L more talented than jay z imo, lyrics not radio friendly though
15:51 Im out! These dudes actually believe Jay-Z won that battle with Nas? FOH
Can we have the old breakdown with just Justin. SMH
War Paint is a crazy ass track. If Meek put it out after Back to Back first dropped, he'd still be alive.
You guys smoking crack j beat Nas and signed him ?
Actually LA Reid signed Nas. Why you think Hov left so quickly?? He didn't have the power he thought he would have. Some of yall need to put 2 and 2 together.
I prefer Nas, but Jay-Z has been relevant for so much longer.
X'O Host Consistently putting out quality > Consistently being relevant.
Life Is Good>MCHG
It's funny how the Jay vs Nas thing is similar to Drake vs Kendrick.
jay 444 > nas last 12 years
Because he married Beyoncé
@Heisenberg-SchrodingerEmc2 jay > nas
"Nigga you ain't live it you witnessed from you folks pad, scribbled in your notepad and created your life"
here we go
Osama Haiyl your first lol
I'm a jay z fan but he uses a lot of biggies bars
Nah cuh. We want that other shit where you tell James to roll those damn clips. I respect your opinion on hip hop matters, we don't care for the other. Complex killing yall cuh with everyday struggle, and I don't want to see that happen
devonte davis facts brody. These podcast niggas wack
He is out of the country I think so he is posting this and will be back soon
devonte davis FACTS!!!
it's definitely a diss to Drake, Jay-Z said "21" then "summers"... just put everything together, to me this shit is logic
Lmao jude nailed it when he said you just ruined it for everybody hahahahaha Colorado ya cut OWFF!
Tupac was the most lyrical of his time
Nas is best of all time
Jay Z is in the hall of fame
Kendrick has 0 competition as of right now.
Everyone has their perks don't compare them just be grateful for good music
Tupac definitely was not the most lyrical.
You fucking wut. The biggest knock against pac is that he isn’t lyrical. He got better throughout his career, but he isn’t as good as the rest of the goat contenders.
Pac is the great. His impact is completely unparalleled.
Nas is a better lyricist.
I think Kendrick needs another 3-4 years, but he’s in the conversation. His albums match up with some of the best of all time. Kendrick is in the conversation.
Aidan Castro Kendrick lyrically has competition in Joey Bada$$ but Joey needs to be more known for him to compete with Joey
whoever says pac wasn't lyrical is flat-out stupid and ignorant. i can name several reasons as of why he's one of the greatest lyricists of all time.
Ether was a head shot toe tag'em and bag'em Jay kept it going because the taste of defeat was in his mouth. Blueprint 2 was trash with a few hot Singles. Nas had hella hot lines and facts on Jay. who cried on Hot 97. I rest my Case. #Ether
is this how the breakdown is from now on?
Lyrics
Through the lights cameras and action, glamour glitters and gold
I unfold the scroll, plant seeds to stampede the globe
When I'm deceased, by then the beast arise like yeast
To conquer peace leaving savages to roam in the streets
Live on the run, police paying me to give in my gun
Trick my wisdom with the system that imprisoned my son
Smoke a gold leaf I hold heat, nonchalantly
I'm raunchy, the things I do is real it never haunts me
While, funny style niggas roll in the pile
Rooster heads profile on a bus to Riker's Isle
Holding weed inside they pussy with they minds on the pretty things in life
Props is a true thug's wife
It's like a cycle, niggas come home, some'll go in
Do a bullet, come back, do the same shit again
From the womb to the tomb, presume the unpredictable
Guns salute life, rapidly, that's the ritual
Takeover is better than Ether. Jay came with real facts everything he said about Nas was true. Large Professor even confirmed that line "I showed you your first tec on tour with large Professor, then I heard your album about your tec on the dresser." Nas just went to petty gay jokes and ugly jokes and they were funny at first but had no real substance
Rakim is the God MC.
Dude at 9:30 is arguing a different point. Are we talking about jay v drake business acumen and cultural impact or purely the art?
Nas invented rhyme patterns that are commonplace now...
Give me DMX over JayZ anyday
white boy trying hard been hip hop guru 😮
J needs to drop some hard shit
where's the breakdown?
MF DOOM IS WAY BETTER THAN JAY Z.....
WWeRockFan1001 Of course
WWeRockFan1001 Naaah
WWeRockFan1001 doom is garbage
Doom although raps
i like to consider him of different category
Jay however is way better.
Prove why doom is better
iLLest Tv THE GUY IN YO PROFILE PIC COPIED DOOMS FLOW ON HILARY SWANK.....
Jay won
This convo would go so differently after summer 2018
Nas won against jay z no doubt
Jay-Z is ARGUABLY the GOAT. By all criteria. Everything considered there may not be another rapper who you can give a greater argument for the greatest ever
By all criteria besides his rap skills
yess..but nas stans cant admit it
Akshat Brahamania nas is so dope that he hasn’t had a hit in so long and we know who he is. Nas is the last pioneer of original hip hop era 78-93/94. And he influence EVERY NY rapper after that came out after him. From jay z, mase, jadakiss, and Lloyd banks. That’s nas he don’t gotta sell another record in his life period.
Akshat Brahamania, soo Illmatic is owed to Jay Z? Soo It Was Written is owed to Jay?? So I Am is owed to Jay??? All of this before Jay Z n Nas battle
Jay Z is the most overrated of all times.
dude at 24:39 says exactly how it is with ghostwriting and hip hop
When talking about Drake being Jay-Z, he forgot Kanye West big time in terms of success in sales and business.
Nas is the most overrated rapper of all time besides Tupac and j Cole. He made one classic album throughout his entire career and even that album just took what rakim established and did it a little different, yet he's somehow the "goat"
thedondon911911 Kendrick is more overrated to Nas.
you tried
BIG REACH. When did Rakim establish working with more than 1 producer? Also no hip hop artist has more than 1 classic album...the only people that come close are ATCQ
Thedondon911911 😂😂😂😂dumb asl
@@itsX2024 lol
Takeover is better than Ether, glad people realize
JamelB You're dumb, Ether is a bomb and a slang now 😂😂
People wanted to see Jay Z lose because of his status in hip hop at the time. People hate on people at the top, especially when you put out #1 album after #1 album not to mention the money and business savvy Jay has so they rode the Ether wave. Most of Nas' insults were kindergarten shit. Jay came with better facts.
JamelB Gay Z is gay tho thats facts
JamelB Same shit Jay Stans claim was kindergarten insults, but most of the shit Nas said in Ether was Facts. How many Biggie Rhymes is gonna come out your fat lips?
Tell you what. take the best lyricists that you can think of in this planet : and put them all in categories
(ex:Immortal Technique for Real ish,
Andre 3000 for atmosphere
Aesop Rock for Lyrical Genius,
Mos Def for culture,
Ludacris for punchlines,
Eyedea for battle flow, etc.)
and put them all in the same room to create a rap that will blow the generation of hip-hop off its feet.
now if they gave you that one song, and you obtained extreme status, and crap load of awards, #1 on the top 100 on all billboards, Leading for 3 years straight, etc. does that make you the best rapper in the rap game? the fact that you didn't put in the blood, sweat and tears into the work that you spit: does that put you anywhere near the level that others had to work for (by brainstorming, writing lyrics, throwing them out, and crafting the best rhymes they can conjure by themselvesm)? heck yeah you probably have one heck of a delivery, and you had a group of phenomenal writers behind you, but you can't call yourself anything near the best artists if you're hands didn't create the art peice. that's like you drawing the best picture in the world, but I get all the credit because I uncovered and showed it off for art critics to praise.
i never thought about that, was that fuck jay z drop on the beginning of nas song pac's voice?
Versatile Genius Yeah, Nas sampled 2Pac's song "Fuck Friendz".