LL Cool J, Canibus & The Favorite Rap Beef Debate
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- čas přidán 6. 06. 2017
- In this edition of All Out Show w/ Rude Jude, Jude and Justin debate rap's all time greatest rap beefs. To keep it interesting, both decide to exclude Jay Z versus Nas and Tupac versus Biggie. Jude selects Canibus versus LL Cool J. Justin explains Bone Thugs versus the world. What's your favorite rap beef? Let us know in the community section below.
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lmaooooo pac got shot and you mad he didnt tweet about you enough lol best line
"When you look at me long enough/ I start to read ya thoughts, if the signal is strong enough" - Canibus
Common vs Ice Cube... The Bitch in Yoo
Put some respek on Canibus' name, he is as much of a legend as EMINEM. I have endless respect for Canibus, he battled against LL (who even back then was considered the G.O.A.T.) before even having a career. I put him in the same category as NaS, JAY Z and EMINEM. His lyrical content is unmatched to this day!
i still love canibus even after the dizaster battle. everyone has a good day, everyone has a bad day, but you can never take away the contributions of a legend.
Hip-Hop Universe he is a lyrical genius but his music is.... lacking. Which is why he can't be one of the greatest overall rappers/hip hop artists but he is 100% one of the GOAT lyricists
Hip-Hop Universe, Word up. People discredit Canibus lyrically cos of that one line on his diss track.
Cmon man. Bis has some of the best lines ever.
John Delorenzo stfu stan bis is a legend
Eazy-E and Dr. Dre is my favourite beef OAT, simply because it spawned Dre Day, that G-synth at the start is a diss enough, SO SICK!
The Dre Day video still holds up.
Whenever I see that video I wonder if that fake Eazy-E ever got death threats
How about dj quik and mc eiht one of the longest beefs ever
"Yeah, you left out the G 'cause the G ain't in you"... one of the hardest lines ever. Have you heard Eiht's new album?
That line is so simple, yet so powerful. First time I heard it I was like "Damn, it was there in plain sight all along!"
Same here! Genius Level Lyric.
I haven't heard it I don't think it's been released yet, in which case I can't wait to hear it!
Nice, and it ended in verbal bloodshed with Eiht being savaged on Dollarz and Sense
The Game vs 50 Cent is one of my favorite beefs. It was so personal and good. I also like the Joe Budden vs Prodigy.
Why is no one talking about the canibus and LL cool J beef
most unexpectedly dope diss track: bitch in yoo. who ever thought common could take on cube and stay standing??
Yeah man, that's when it became clear that Common was more rugged than advertised.
The Company Man Media Everybody sleeps on commons first two albums back when he was called common sense
Ive been fiending for this show for about 3 weeks and found it today! Rude Jude and Justin are hip hops NO 1 commentators in my opinion!
1:06 "that's some extra beff" haha don't know why but it had me crying 🤣🤣😂
Gravediggaz: 6 feet deep was recorded before Wu-tang but didn't get released 'till after 36 chambers. Prince Paul spoke about it on an ep of Combat Jack.
My man Can-I-Bus annihilated all of his opponents, he's that good.
Dope convo justin, love how u always quick to bring up bone thugs they were my shit back in the day too. Also for beefs what about cypress hill vs ice cube, cube jacked that Friday hook from them u remember
So good to hear about the 3-6/Bone Thugs beef. I don't know too much about it, but I like both groups.
My music taste was mainly rock and roll but one of the main reasons for me branching out and listening to hip hop and rap was your videos and this channel so I thank you for that! Anyway a famous rock and roll beef was between the bands Blur and Oasis. They bought singles out on the same day and the beef grew from there. Its rare in rock that bands make direct references to one another in songs but they were some pretty big shots fired. Noel Gallagher said that he hoped Damon died of AIDS. Pretty crazy but the biggest reason for the fallout was class. Oasis were seen as working class but Blur was seen as middle class and I was wondering if class was ever a reason for some rap beef? Keep the awesome content coming!
The old Royce da 5'9" vs Joe Budden produced some incredible bars.
Is Rude Jude showing up enough for this to be called Company Men? Love it.
"High school was happening. And then it stopped."
Incredible lol
KRS-One goat piece
Definitely.
Game vs G-Unit my favorite beef
Justin could you make an LL Cool J Goat breakdown ? But yeah you and Jude have some great chemistry!! Have me watching the whole 23 minutes. Also you've really opened up my eyes to the Hip Hop world and different parts of it. Keep it going !!!
Although not my favorite beef, 50 Cent vs Ja Rule is interesting to look back on. Considering how popular Ja was at the time.
Also Eminem's beef with that Benzino guy from The Source. That diss track "Nail in the Coffin" still makes me laugh like crazy!
50 v Ja is one of my favorites too. Em v Benzino was too one sided to me. Benzino didn't deserve to be in that cypher.
Blazin' seriously I can’t believe they didn’t talk about any of Ems beef he went through
I love your show @TheCompanyMan
That Do Or Die diss on BONE was dope!
Do or die don't have any thing on Bone thugs
Nice content! Keep it up!
Thank yoU!
Canibus' first album was dope.
Em's "Nail In The Coffin" against Benzino is angry, disrespectful and humorous all at the same time.
Im torn between Ice Cube vs NWA and Jay Z vs Nas. How do you choose between No Vasaline, Ether, and Super Ugly. Even that Oracle track that Ma$e dropped a few days ago was fire. I miss when rappers would actually battle and its of ppl with respectable skill. I loved Eminem's old diss records but he dissed the dude from Limp Bizkit, Moby and boy bands. Ppl who cant defend themselves.
1:09 THANK YOU... I've heard to many of my friends say back 2 back was the best Dias track ever
I lost respect for LL for that sucker move and to make matters worse Canibus utterly destroyed him. Moe Dee as well. Who remembers Kokaine and Cold187um vs Dre and Snoop...Willie Dee vs Mc Choice...LL vs Shan...KRS1 vs X Clan and Ice Cube...Too Short vs The Luniz and Dru Down and Kurrupt vs the Firm?
Jason Borne Kool killed LL with death blow. It needed better production but it was so much better lyrically than anything LL had done. Moe Dee was really lyrical now that I look back on him. The Too $hort beef was weird for me, as I never expected $hort to in fact partake in beef, yet he showed to everyone he could rap about more than just pimping, love him man. Gettin it was such a great album.
Krishnan Sen death blow was cool but I was referring to "let's go" Lyrical assination!!! Cool J never responded directly to that song correctly and had he not had the backing of Def Jam his career would have ended back in the late 80s
HOLY FKN SHIT!!!!! DUUUUUUDE!!!! I haven't heard that Tommy Wright since high school!!!! THANK YOU for putting that shit back in my head
Subliminal lines are so slick tho. Calling names can be boring
Took me way back with that Do or Die song!
Always appreciate Rude Jude on here spreading the word of Reel Life Productions. Esham and Natas are the originators of evil shit, wicked shit, horrorcore and everything I live for
Jude was on point with Cool J & canibus feud my favorite as well.
I liked even before I start playing the video.. :D
Salute!
My favorite wrapped beef is Wagyu.
Best comment everv😂
Bad Boy vs. Wu-Tang. (A lot of people don't realize that the Madd Rapper & Madd Producer was Bad Boy mocking Ghost & RZA)
Remember Tim Dog vs Nwa, Ice cube vs cypress hill, mobb depp vs chino xl,
This is one of my favorites from y'all. Shelved Big/Pac and Jay/Nas. Smart move. I grew up loving Bone Thugs and Three Six. I kind of forgot about some of that beef. East 1999 was phenomenal but I'm in Alabama and we bumped 3-6 for years and years longer. They were a big part of my High School soundtrack.
Twista was out before Bone Thugs. Just under a different name.
Mike Jones vs Chamillionaire might be my favorite one way beef.
I forgot all about that one. I don't think I paid much attention to it. Chamillionaire was too dope to think Mike Jones had a chance. I'm gonna go back and research that one.
The Company Man Media Yeah man it was totally one sided. Beef IV kind of talks about it but not in too much detail. If you do a Breakdown on Chamillionaire and maybe the fall of jackin beats that would be dope. Keep up the good work Justin. You and Jude's show is great
it was mainly Cham and Paul Wall tbh
Beans vs. Jadakiss was classic!!!
Anthony 410 yes nothing but rhymes back n forth. D-Block vs State Property
Truth. I wish those times would come back.
this is the comment i was lookin for
Have you guys heard Ny87 and watch ya mouth by 2pac?
Yo, Nelly vs KRS? That was the new skool vs old skool in my generation, albeit a soft beef. Also it was fun listening to the Shady/G Unit vs Murder Inc, or Em vs Cannabis.
D Block vs G Unit mightve been the most dangerous beef of all time
Justin isn't with HipHopDx anymore?
Drake and meek mills beef: the hip hop equivalent of, "I know you wanted a hamburger so here are some yogurt patties I got from trader Joe's"
Subliminals are fun to dissect.
Common and Cube, The Bitch in Yoo is my favorite diss track of all time
Ethan Simpson "Your nigga ain't no Mack 10, he's a 22"
Shoutout to Jude for mentioning the box!!..lol and he was right-i learned the lyrics to First of the month in one day thanks to the box..
Kick In The Door is one of the GOAT diss tracks. If you compile that with all the shit surrounding it from Chef, Nas, and Jeru, this is OD entertaining. Really unbelievably underrated. Someone needs to cover this in depth.
Great call! Sounds like a great TBD topic.
The Company Man Media would be 🔥
Agree.
You guys forgot about Common's diss to Ice Cube "The Bitch in Yoo"
50 cent & Eminem vs. Ja Rule and Benzino is my favorite. 50 and Em' killed them. 😎👏
canibus stopped my high school... my exact situation. what a beautiful moment in hip hop.
hunte just so you know, rumor has it meek and Nicki went shopping and meek intended to pay for both their items but when they checked out it was too much so he asked her to pay the surplus and he would reimburse her. she gets mad pays for her stuff and leaves saying "drake won't do this" so really she was the immediate reason along with him not tweeting the album. meek has been on the record saying he was impulsive due to a pill addiction. same a Nicki lol
Im 33 yo am i really missing out on anything by not listening to cannibus? I used to hear about him but to me he was trying to hard to get recgnized by beefing with everybody made me not want to listen to his shit
Westside Connection vs Cypress Hill
MC Eiht vs DJ Quik
Ice Cube vs Common
Eazy E vs Dr Dre
They cannot do a video about rap beefs and not mention cube and NWA
One of my favorite beefs is the U.N.L.V (Cash Money Records) vs P.N.C & Mystikal (Big Boy Records).
The best songs from this beef is U.N.L.V's I'm bout it and P.N.C.'s Talk that shit now.
Both songs are great as they paint a picture to the listener as to why they are beefing and/or the cause of the beef. Instead of focusing on just name calling.
U.N.L.V.'s Drag em in da river is most remembered diss track from the beef but it wasn't that good of a diss track.
50 vs the Game?
Bone thugs vs Da Dogg Pound was low key
gravediggaz came out in 1994
"Don't get much harder than worshiping the devil!" 😂
GDot Markee LMFAOOOOO
GDot Markee bruh i read this as he was saying it lmao
MC Shan vs LL Cool J
Godlike and WicketWorldWide by Natas were my shit
The problem I have with Bone Thugs Harmony is that everyone now think that they inveted the tongue twisted style, which stupid completely stupid. Go listen to some early Aceyalone, Organized Konfusion or Treach and you'll hear it way before Bone Thugs.
Man, stop talking shit! They never claimed to start the "tongue twisted style" they were the first to HARMONIZE with it. Go listen to Twista, and then listen to them, they're both fast, but not even close to sounding the same. So open your ears KID!
you clearly don't listen
Twista was rapping back in 1991 and 1992. Twista and Treach were beefing over the same thing. "Uptown Anthem" had subliminal diss aimed and Twista...
*at Twista...
Anybody remember the Meek Mill Cassidy beef?
Roxanne Shante vs UTFO
One of my favorites is Nas and Cormega. Cormega really gets no noise, but you can argue he had better back to back albums than Nas, in my opinion.
Pusha T's Exodus 23:1 is so underrated. I get that it's filled with subliminals but if you take them directly, that was one of the hardest attacks on someones personal character in a long time.
I agree that Drake/Meek beef was whack, but if you're gonna cover Drakes diss, Meek's War Pain track shouldn't be looked over.
16:18
Finish the bar Justin!
what about cage vs eminem? one of my favorite beefs ....they both cooked each other
Personally I would rather see my favourite rappers hop on a track and make a posey cut going bar for bar together. It is more entertaining to see and is far more healthier to the community rather than engaging in a petty and potentially dangerous rap beef over nothing.
hazz kat rap beefs are a staple of the culture
Joe Budden vs G Unit and Game vs G Unit was also a bloodfest imo
wack depot 😂😂😂
Jay-Z vs Nas was my favorite beef.
Dont forget that Canibis had to bring in Mike Tyson ...... and LL dissed them both.
rarespeciez also LL dissed model too
Ll got canibis
Nas vs Black Thought those guys were throwing subliminals at each other for a couple of years.
roll the clip James needs to teach John up haha
Rude Jude threw in E Sham off top. I like this guy.
One of my favorite beefs is em vs everlast .. Em tottaly slayed everlast and even used the hit em up beat
Judes shirt is inside out
No twista, do or die started that shit first, I clearly know that and with phycodrama
My favorite beefs was DJ Quik vs mc eiht
Damn You Company Man
What about the Canibus and Eminem beef with all the super clever subliminal shit Eminem does
Forgot to say that my favorite diss track is the same as yours, Justin. Against All Odds was sublime and I don't think anyone of sound mind believes that Nas had any chance of winning that beef. Couldn't exactly throw homophobic bars at Pac like he did with Jay and expect anyone but Pac haters to think he won.
Man, you ain't neva lied. Plus Nas had a tendency to borrow pretty early in his career. Pac accused him of it. Jay accused him of it. I gave you power is the same concept of Organized Konfusion's stray bullet. he and Pharoahe are both from queens. Pac never turned imaginary gangsta. He had the Thug Life movement, It would be tough for Nas to reach into the lyrical utility belt and use consciousness as a weapon. Between simultaneous battles with Pac and Big, his career could've been short lived.
I'm struglling to see how what you've written relates to my assertion that Nas would lose to Pac in a battle of diss tracks.
Heh Justin.How are you?.Late today have been work.Beefs yumm.My first rap beef was Roxanne Wars,bullshit but fun.BDP X Juice Crew /L.L vsKMD great beefs.Common vs Ice Cube NWA vs Cube.All of Queens have fallen out Tragidy vs Nore vs Nas vs Comega vs Mobb Deep etc.2nd Round K.O is fucking heat L.L was a dick.Later was Jada vs Beanie (something the Lox a dress on their last LP) then the way 50 and later extended Shady/Aftermath family ended Murder Inc (I know that the FBI shit helped but I didn't know about that at the time)was cold.Ice T vs L.L ,Lil Flip vs T.I,Jeezy vs Gucci,and thats not going close to all the Chiraq beefs (or Rico Reckless taking Fiddys How To Rob steez ) anywhere theres been some ones some of the best ever Hip Hop was made as a result of beef,the anger and need to wound the oponent as badly does something to bring out the best (and worst, today Instra beefs).And best Joey Bada$$ freestyle on Sway going at Troy Ave).Great show again JLH and Jude. Loved every minute.Take care.
the battle of Roxanne werent bullshit lol better than drake meek lol
Canibus vs EMINEM was amazing as well, but i get the one against LL as he literally battled the GOAT at the time without even having a career, gotta have some balls to do that.
Em started it! He played his way of it bcoz Canibus was gonna smoke that white ass.
Prodigy vs Def Squad beef
Mainly Keith Murray.
everyone in this comment section, share this shit, now !!!!
Why doesn't anyone EVER talk about how Bone stole their ENTIRE style from Freestyle Fellowship? Check F.F.'s 'Mary', Micah 9's verse says it all.
Y’all facts is off drake apparently dissed meek on the track that they both were on
Cbo/yukmouth vs 50 beef
Beans vs Kiss
Another beef that a thought was somewhat interesting was Eminem's and Canabis' feud. Not one i hear talked about much.
WilkyWay3000 Em waxed him!
The Company Man Media true that. Shame that canabis is only remembered for his history of dissing top rappers but never reaching there height of fame.
WilkyWay3000
Canibus finished EM. EM is scared to battle Bis.
Ibrahim Kaya you say that but who is still selling records in the millions?
Yeah you right. Justin Bieber killed Ice Cube and Dr. Dre. He bodybagged both...
Beanie and Jadakiss beefed because Jada came at Jay and Beans wasn't having that shit.
Canibus annihilated LL. It wasn't even close lyrically.
kurupt vs dmx