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- A whips like in Indiana Jones effective weapons? We put them to the test!
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I appreciate that Shad, unlike Disney/Lucasfilm, is making money off of Indiana Jones.
Oh, shit. Worth it then 😊
🤣🤣🤣
Shhh! You really want Disney to sue?? They're unstoppable.
Those pirates from Disney are notorious for stealing intelectual property and making films based on what others were already playing while they were still filming / animating it (Lion king, i'm looking at you), then sueing the said company that they stole the idea from for "stealing the idea from Disney"...
Karma is a b-word and it's about time Disney got a big fat dose of it.
Bod😅😅😂
It’s also important to note that although Indiana Jones uses the whip, he actually does have an offhand weapon called a pistol
The whip is just making them an easier target at that point.
Whips save on bullets! 😅
Whip, pistol combo. Non-lethal and lethal weapons that kinda make sense to use together.
Two pistols actually. He carried a Smith
& Wesson revolver, and a Browning Hi-Power. You see him using both guns during the Nepal fight scene, which is why he was able to fire more than 6 shots without reloading. Unfortunately, he lost the Browning during that fight.
@@Rocket1377he didn’t lose it though, or if he did he found a replacement by the time they escape Cairo. He’s chambering one when the boat is stopped.
Shad: "In my opinion, the capacity to kill is an important qualifier for a weapon"
Also Shad: *doesn't kill the guest he brings along*
smh my head
Something to note guys, you can use smaller whips for smaller spaces. Looks like you might be using a 15 foot whip but an 8 or 6 ft whip might work well indoors paired with a smaller sword. Plus you can crack a short whip much more rapidly than the 15 and 20 footers.
When fighting with a Whip you should also have a sub weapon... I suggest using the Holy Water.
@@EsotericBibleSecrets Yes, and preferably the whip will be made of chain and have a ball at the end
There's a few things I have notes on. It's pretty in depth, but I'll try to break it into sections.
Tldr: I think more practice would definitely help with a lot of things, as would either making modifications to the whip, or getting a slightly better whip.
For background, I'm a whip maker and whip cracker with over three years of experience. I mostly do nylon whips, though I have made two leather whips. I mostly do performance cracking and targeting, and I've done dozens of "wild west" shows.
Looking at the whip they used, it does seem to be a reasonably good, if lower quality leather whip. It does also look to be made of kangaroo hide too, which is really good. I did notice it tended to bounce back a lot, and I think replacing the fall (the strand of leather at the end of the braiding) with a longer one would help. I am pretty curious where they got it from and who the maker is.
For when they were doing wraps on the branch, it did seem to do poorly, but there are a few things that could help. One would be a longer fall, probably 3-4 feet for a 10 foot whip like this one. Trying an overhand flick does tend to work best for that type of wrap and trying to give it enough length to wrap 2-3 times seems to work best.
For cutting in combat, distance does matter a bit. The end of the fall and the cracker are where you'll get the most cutting power, and when you'll get the most cutting power is just before or during the crack. Aiming for the face or eyes would probably be best for a cut. It's pretty easy to find videos of people, like Adam Winrich, Nick Schrader, and Jacques Ze Whipper, all of whom I've seen cut soda cans clean in half.
I also have personal experience on the cutting power of whips. I've got scars on my legs from trying to use one that was too long to be properly functional, and one on my face from when one of my friends accidentally hit me (that was the worst of all the cuts, and I'm really lucky the scar faded away).
For wrapping in combat, I hadn't considered going for the neck, but that does make sense. I find snatches (wrapping the weapon and pulling) or wrapping the arm if you want to disarm someone. It's also easier to do a wrap since it's a smaller circumference, which means you need less of the whip to get the ideal 2-3 wraps around. What I find to work best is doing a wrap around the leg. I've pulled people off their feet before, and even if it doesn't wrap, a crack on the leg does hurt.
On speed, it is possible to crack pretty quickly, and multiple times. Combination cracks of three or four can be really fast, and while you would usually want to keep the whip in front as much as possible, I find using reverse cracks (ones that tend to crack behind you) speeds up cracking by letting the motion of the follow through set up the next crack. Examples of that would be things like the cow and calf (cattlemen's or overhand flick followed by an underhand flick), or the volley (overhand flick followed by reverse overhand).
Lastly, on doing two handed with a sword, it does make sense, and I have tried it. I'm not familiar with swords, so it was awkward and cumbersome, but there can be a usage. If you can disarm, disable, or pull down an opponent first with a whip, then you can finish with the sword. If someone gets past the whip (especially longer ones), it's pretty ineffective at close range, which is where the sword would be effective for defense.
If you actually read all that, I hope it was interesting and informative. If you have questions, feel free to ask.
Thanks for the info, gad seen Jacques Ze Whipper before so I've seen his really fast and on-beat cracks of the whip, but its quite impressive the cutting power you described. This should probably be top comment.
I was hoping they'd have tried to go for the opponent's sword as well. Maybe they'll give it a go should they revisit the weapon/topic in the future. I also thought that when the Nate caught the whip, the best simple move would probably be to just drop it and fully switch to the sword.
A further thought was that a more complicated (but possibly more entangling move) of this would be to actually throw the rest of the whip at the opponent. Either just aim it at their face or try to wrap the wrong end of the whip around the sword/sword arm. Basically, if they caught it on their left side, where they are holding it is the fulcrum. Throw the handle towards their right side with the intent to entangle the sword arm with the rest of the whip/whip handle. It may not work well, but even one or two seconds while they try to disentangle could be all that's needed to end the fight. And if you're no good wielding a weapon left handed like Tyranth, doing this would put your right hand across your left side, possibly allowing you to either switch hands or at least switch the sword to a two handed grip.
Interesting on the last point, because that would be how a ninja’s sickle & chain would function (though for a more economical weapon, a sickle with grappling hook would do just as well).
Disarm, entangle/immobilize/tie-up, and finish off with off-hand weapon. (However, the chain or grappling hook would lack the “cracking” function)
I wonder if you were to add thorns or tacks to the end so that a wrap would lead to cuts how would that effect the whips power?
@@Reyn_Roadstorm I think this makes sense. Tangle up the opponent more and use the time they untangle to attack. On your last note, I'm bad at swords left handed, but I can easily use a whip left handed. The easy solution there would be use the sword in the better hand, and use the whip in the left hand, though throwing/dropping the whip does allow you to hold the sword with both hands.
Seeing Shad NOT wearing medieval armor is what looks strange to me. How funny is that.
I think he really pulls off the Indiana Jones look
@@codyworley5623 Oh he pulls it off admirably, but it is for sure weird to not see him in a gambeson. Especially when the boys show up and stand beside him.
Many many years ago I was staying with a friend in California (I'm from the UK) and I was looking through his book shelves and came accross a book called 'The Filipino Fighting Whip' I called my friends attention to this and he surprised me by saying this was a regular interest of his. So of course it wasn't long until we were on a field with a 4' whip. By the way we both wore eye protection.
I was nervous of it as I manage to catch myself in the back of the head but he took me through some drills and it was fun. By the end of it was fairly sure it could be used effectivly for fighting if you were capable of using it that is. I wouldn't think people could just pick one up.
I got to say that the whip you were using isn't a fighting whip. The Filipinos used 4 and 6 foot whips. Bull whips are for... well cows. I think it was told to me that they would crack it at certain angles from the cow to drive it in certain directions.
The shorter whips are far better for handling people and a Filipino would have a knife in the offhand if they managed to get past whip range.
Latigo y daga
@@darkwyngraymsiempre, the rat is very important.
Filipino Knife Fighting /alone/ sounds like a heaping helping of " If I've wound up here I'm already screwed "
Much less adding a whip specifically designed for humans
Filipino martial arts (from what little I know) is generally geared around close quarters, so it's probably just generally a good reference point for fighting in sub-optimal conditions and close range.
Interesting about the short whips, though. I'll have to look that book up.
shad already did more research than all of disney writers put together
Research and perfect realism doesn't make a great movie.
If that were so, the coz playing man-child would know IJ DID use the whip as a weapon. FFS It was the first thing he did
they said that whips are "slow"
it isn't
i've seen people who knows how to use whips cracks that thing rapidly
hell even dual wielding it it's really fast
@@Tasorius
No, but good writing does.
Which uh... I wouldn't class that writing as good. I know it's personal preference, but I absolutely don't like the writing in the newer movies.
Or about half of 2, honestly.
There's only two movies in my headcanon. Lost Ark and Last Crusade.
@@mattaffenit9898 Yes. Those two are the best ones, but 2 is still worse than both 4 and 5. I don't now how that thing ended up between two masterpieces...
Nothing is more fun than watching 3 good friends totally platonically whipping each other and having fun
This looks so much fun.
YESSIR!
I'm glad you added that platonic in there.
@@zixvirzjghamn737 totally platonically*... Nothing has been confirmed >:)
@@vicarsita5510most people upon seeing Tyranth become Ty-curious at least.
In the Mythbusters whip episode, the whip-master summed it up well. When asked if he could whip a gun from someone's hand, he said why try when he can go for the eyes instead.
A supersonic slap in your eyes, face, or throat would probably disrupt your aim for a while.
@@pwnmeisterageah, especially if the tip actually strikes the eyes, in which case it will disrupt your aim pretty much indefinitely.
There are reasons. Someone might still manage to shoot you even from remembering your position and shooting several bullets if you're close enough to hit their eye with a whip.
@@Mr.Nichan lol you'd have to be superhuman to not flinch when a whipstrike is coming at your face.
@@pwnmeisterage What if you flinch by pulling the trigger after already roughly aiming? There's also plenty of time before and after getting hit to shoot, but I suppose the "before" also applies to any attempt to hit the gun.
Good to note: a modern “show whip” like you have is constructed significantly different than proper “purpose whips”, the show whip is sort of like a wall hangar, it looks nice, but effectiveness… not quite all there. Also, just saying, but i think you would have a Blast testing out chain whips (tho not on eachother… they are nasty). Also, there are many different sizes, designs, and tips for whips, and each has massive changes to how well they work for various things
Minus the magic, Castlevania's "Vampire Killer" would send you to the damn ER.
When fighting with a Whip you should also have a sub weapon. I suggest using the Holy Water.
@@auralynn3862 oh hell yeah, and they would need to consult a team of plastic surgeons on repairs… And thats not even counting on the fact that lashing someone is not the right way to fight with a whip, proper use involves using it to wrap and twisting shatter limbs, or, like he tried, neck grapples. I mean, yeah, the strikes hurt, but an arm in about 45 pieces that stick through the skin? A bit worse
@@auralynn3862 or if you get to the more exotic “whips” like those closer to the “manticore’s tail” family of whips… cause having a cluster of bladed metal or crystal spines at the end, often laced in poison, or even barbed, is totally not any problem at all… nope…
@@ConnorSinclairCavin yeah, my exact thought was barbed whip and the cat of nine tails. or something like a coach whip with the 3-4 ft pole used as a handle
4:45 how it works (shad science)
7:45 thoughts
10:15 test
10:50 swing test and thoughts
12:40 accuracy
15:10 vs bolamer
22:25 thought
26:00 vs sword and more thoughts
28:30 final thoughts
I thought it was boromir D:
Ah yes, shad science. I too am an expert in this field.
Now THAT's what I call a "Functional Fandom" intro! Also, the very beginning with Shad as Indy made me laugh!
lets fund a Shad Indy Indiana Jones film! I would love that!
Reminds me of the Family Guy joke about the same scene.
That intro was legit better than the actual recent movie
What recent movie? There are only 3 Indiana Jones movies!
1989 isn’t that recent dude. You must be old.
@@codylindeman9783 though that too...
I know it's hard to believe that there are kids in pubs who were born after its full ox set release as a trilogy...
But admit it mate... It wasn't recent
Kingdom of the Crystal skull and Dial of Destiny dont exit
Legit epic intro
Crazy how the whip is the first manmade tool to break the sound barrier.
It is pretty crazy how long ago whips were invented and break the sound barrier, but are we sure slings don't predate whips? both of course, are incredibly fun to watch :>
I would argue that that would be Mother-In-Laws. :P
For the whip wrapping around, it’s very important that when you wrap it wraps as a clove hitch. It is possible, if you’re well trained with a whip.
They're trying imitate them, so they should know, that mythbusters already did this one.
It's important to maintain tension too. If you let it go slack at the bottom the slack just travels back to the fall/cracker
I think its fair to say that the first 2 minutes of his video is the best piece of content Shad has ever produced
Edit: then he has the balls to follow it up with the coolest intro sequence i've ever seen.
Can we just take a moment to appreciate Shad's Indiana Jones cosplay?
One of my favorite videos in the channel!
I think it's important to note that:
- A slash across the forehead that makes the face bleed, will limit visibility.
- The Impact of a broken nose could obstruct airwaves and impede breathing.
- Catching a person in the eye will SERIOUSLY injure the eye, possibly disabling the opponent.
- A crushed trachea might not be as easy to fight with for too long.
Very true, as someone who used to fist fight a lot, even a jab in the nose without breaking it tends to make the eyes water and impede vision, stuns and allows you to build offensive momentum
another thing
you can keep cracking it so getting close would be hard
it doesn't need much wind up to get it to cracke it
especially shorter whips which is good for smaller spaces
which takes out their problem of it being "unusable in smaller spaces"
just get a smaller whip
less effort to crack and faster and good even in small spaces
-the range though
I've also seen whips made with a steel ball bearing inside the heel knot. Essentially gives it a skull crusher pommel if the opponent gets too close. No reason you couldn't also give it enough of a tang inside the handle to be able to add a buttspike in place of the loop as well.
@@kd5nrh This is so true!!
True, but how likely are you going to be to hit an eye while the enemy is charging you? A hit in the face will seriously hurt, but someone hopped up on adrenaline coming at you with murderous intent with a sword is going to shrug it off unless you pull off that perfect strike. Then you're screwed.
There is historical precedent of distraction weapons being used. Like darts, throwing knives, shuriken, fistfuls of sand, caltrops and so on.
I'd say that a whip would qualify as a re-usable distraction weapon.
So with training using it alongside a one handed sword, short sword or dagger, it could be a quite formidable combo.
POCKET SAND
I hate sand, it's course and rough and it gets everywhere
Tbh a thrusting weapon along with a whip to distract, blind, or bind can certainly be effective. Just needs to open a vector of attack
@@assortmentofpillsbutneverb3756 There's kinda historical precedent for that too.
Among ancient roman gladiators, the retiarius fought with a trident and a net.
Granted a net isn't a whip, and a trident has three spikes rather than one like a spear.
But the net is still a non-rigid, flexible weapon and waa used as a distraction and entangling device
I bet a whip with a tip that would hook in and grab people would be great with a spear. Like those gladiators that used nets and spears or tridents.
I feel your pain Shad. I too have an extreme phobia of CGI boulders.
Well yeah a paper mache boulder you can punch away but cgi boulders are incorporeal what can you do against them D:
@@procow2274 They're truly unstoppable.
The Mythbusters did an episode on this once iirc, Adam was surprised at how easy it was to control the whip.
Do you mean surprised by? I don't know what supposed st means
If I remember correctly, it took Adam all of ten minutes to get consistent hits on target with the whip he'd made.
And in that episode they also proved the one flick of the wrist, wrapping around a tree limb, isn’t realistic without a limb with a LOT of friction
You're misrepresenting the episode. Adam had been trained by a master whip expert. It was not easy to aim the whip where he wanted to initially and when he learned the proper technique of following through with his wrist in the direction of the target, only then did it get more accurate. But even then Adam wasn't anywhere near like stunt whip performers in terms of control and accuracy. That was just some controlled tests at a set distance.
And in the episode where they were recreating many of Indie's feets from the movies including the whip swing over a chasm it took him numerous attempts to get the whip to bind on their stand in "branch" and that wasn't in a proper whip form, that was just trying to secure it for the sake of the test which was "can a whip hold a person's body weight to swing across the distance needed"
That's why bullwhips have been used for hundreds of years.
And on this day, Tyron discovered he's into whips.
"Happy accidents" lmao
I mean... they're cool, and, stuff...
I may have also discovered that I am into whips today as well.
As much as I love Shad, the two guys are fantastic in playing off each other when it comes to the testing of things. There's a real sense of experienced metnor and enthusiastic novice going on.
Shad was really embracing his inner Jack Black during that intro. And he even kinda looked like him with his beard
Facts 😂😂😂
When fighting with a Whip you should also have a sub weapon. I suggest using the Holy Water.
I didn't think "Jack Black" although that it accurate. I thought of Josh Gates from Expedition unknown
maybe also grab an axe and some daggers @@EsotericBibleSecrets
On the boromir test, they managed solid hits to the eye. That could cause serious injury to the point of temporary blindness, which counts as incapacitating the opponent
I think the whip in its current design is clearly not designed as an offensive weapon, especially as used here. However, I feel there are several minor adaptations that could better optimise for this function. For starters, I wonder if adding a small weight at the end of the whip might help it wrap around things better. Similarly, I wonder if rubbing powdered glass or metal into the whip would improve its ability to cut through gambeson - I've heard of stories about a sport called kite fighting where people would coat their kite strings with glass, which has resulted in people getting accidentally injured and even killed by the glass-coated kite strings. The glass/metal powder coating would also prevent the enemy from grabbing the whip; at least not without thick hand protection. And the injuries you'd get from face strikes? 😬😬
@@evilwelshman As a further possible modification i'd consider maybe making the whip longer. This would give you more reach and possibly an even higher speed on the tip. Although that would probably also make the whip harder to use and you'd likely need to use more power in your whip strikes to get it to move at all so the detriment might outweigh the benefit. Also i wonder about making the whip out of a different material. Leather is all nice and good but think about a whip made from some very flexible metal like for example silver. Or maybe carbonfiber.
Just pointing out that a real whip can very easily cause permanent blindness.
@@RandallWeeksdefinitely can I worked with a guy who lost an eye because of a whip as he put it he was young and dumb and him and his friends were not using safety gear apparently you can cause dislocation of joints as well but although I don't know how common that is
@@evilwelshman ... I know I looked this up on wikipedia but there is a war whip that is/was actually used.
and I think it had spikes or something at the end or at least something pointy.
As a Whip user, I can affirm that the noise itself would make 50% of the possible opponents to turn back
Like racking a shotgun, hundreds of tv shows and movies have conditioned us to recognize that sound as the start of trouble.
It's so much scarier in person, especially when you're not expecting someone with a lot of practice to crack one perfectly a few yards behind you. Any recording just doesn't come close to the real sound of a good crack.
Unsurprisingly, a lot of the cowboys around here have bullwhips and lots of practice...because they spend a lot of time out in the open and the darn things are fun to play with. I don't know how many actually use it other than as a noisemaker when herding, but I'm sure a lot of beer cans and cacti get popped with them.
In my younger years I worked security. There were a number of fights we could end by just slamming out a baton. People getting amped up or stepping forward would stop in their tracks and walk away.
I’ve heard a whip crack from a quality weapon whip. I can confirm the crack is not recorded properly at all, and is instead, much quieter on recording, just like how guns fire is quieter on recording. The person who did the whip crack told everyone to stand about 50 feet away from him and everyone did even though it was a 15 foot whip. The reason everyone listened was because he said that should someone be within range, the becomes incredibly unpredictable purely because of how whips work. He also said that the end of the whip was very worn and I can confirm, that it was indeed worn, so he made sure everyone was to 50 feet and at his sides since it it broke off it would either go forwards or backwards.
When fighting with a Whip you should also have a sub weapon. I suggest using the Holy Water.
lol, cleric weapons
Holy water is a good choice. I would go with the flying cross or the stopwatch😅.
The content is jumping to quite a professional level of quality.
Now, they just need obnoxious camera editing, ad breaks and random sound effects to make it a TV show.
@@thesupersonicstigAnd a super slow motion camera because it sort of looks like a galaxy smartphone level slow motion. Still very good content, maybe even add some C4 if that's legal in Australia in a controlled environment.
@@thesupersonicstigwell not every producer aims to be like Abrahams
35:31 I really loved watching Shad and company chop down swords with trees. I was amazed they could swing those massive trunks so proficiently. The poor swords never stood a chance.
Yeah, that episode really had the BIG STICK ENERGY vibes going! That Troll at the end never stood a chance.
I really do need a big stick episode
if it was me i think i am going to chop down a tree with a sword and not a sword with a tree :)
So you guys are... Medieval and Movie Mythbusters? I LOVE IT.
Anthony DeLongis, who you can usually find involved with any film where a whip is involved, certainly spoke highly of its efficacy as a weapon. There are some vids online of him speaking about it and demonstrating how he uses it. Pretty interesting guy with lots of experience in bladed weapons, martial arts etc. Oh, and he was also in the best B-movie of all time, Roadhouse, so there's that.
Loving how well that Indie costume suits Shad. You look like you were born to be an adventuring archaeologist.
my first thought too. he pulls it off well.
Yeah that's what Australians look like
I like to think he actually always dresses that way off camera.
to be honest my first thought was "he looks like if a young jack black played indie"
I tried on that same jacket, it's vegan "leather"
I'm so happy they never ruined Indiana and left it as a nice trilogy
It’s a perfect trilogy!
Just like Star Wars!
@@stevethepocketEhhh. Yeah, the prequel trilogy is pretty meh by itself.
But then The Clone Wars happened. Then it was slightly appreciated in what it added regardless of its flawed existence.
@@stevethepocket exactly like Star Wars. And luckily they never went back and tried to "improve" Star Wars with scene edits and bad cgi
@@mcihay246 prequels? What prequels? Wake up, it's 1990
To solve the problem of it catching on things around you, just use the Castlevania whip which magically shortens and lengthens to the exact size you need
Informative AND entertaining! Loved the candid commentary. On ya boys!
Shad you hit the nail on the head. The whip isn't a primary weapon, it's a support weapon that really sets up your primary weapon for the kill. A better weapon than the whip is the martial arts chain. A master with that weapon is a force.
It might have been helpful if they had some professional whip training
@@theriddler1168 Are you saying they need to get whipped into shape and become whipping good??? 🤔😜🤪
@@jugglejunktake my like and get out.
I think there are also deadlier and more effective materials than leather for this as well even talking outside of metal. If you actually intend it to do damage you're going to want a tip that's a little more rigid and likely to transfer energy than lose it. It might get in the way of the actual wrapping part but that just adds a slightly increased skill requirement.
Buddy of mine in the SCA actually made a chain whip; i.e., a bullwhip made of chainmail links just to see if it could be done. Now that sucker would easily kill someone; a whip expert and cattleman tested it out and said it was functional, but he would never use it as it would severely injure if not outright kill his cows.
The dynamic of Shad, Tyranth and Nate is just so damn good. Never get tired of watching you guys just do stuff. Nate and Tyranth are so good that I don't even mind when Shad steps back and lets them do most of the stuff.
The production and entertainment value of these 3 is better than EVERY "professionally" produced TV shows of similar content by MILES. There isn't even a comparison.
Y6all put Discovery History and History channel to SHAME. Shadiversity is just better in EVERY possible way.
Shad bringing them on was a genius move
In a fantasy setting, having a magical whip that can grasp things and the self-release (like Indy's whip does) it would be a very useful weapon.
The Belmont (castlevania) family approves.
Dracula: *nervous sweating*
The Functional Fandom intro is so badass! You really outdid yourselves with this one.
This episode would have been perfect to do a colab with Jacques Ze Whipper. Amazing whip cracker and extremely precise.
I wanted to comment the same thing. Maybe we can get a follow-up video with him.
Doubt Jacque has the funds to Australia for a video.
@@redcelticdrake they could do like they do with other people and have the other persons section take place in their home location and the content just jump between them, like when kramer is in a video demonstrating something
Nevermind Jacques ze whipper get Anthony DeLongis
I had the same idea!
Good observations. As a whip cracking enthusiast myself, a few pointers:
1. To properly get a whip to grab onto a limb, as soon as it loops around, you pull back to secure a tight knot. This will secure it to effectively "tie itself."
2. Look up Chris Camp - The Whip Guy, Anthony Delongis (who trained Harrison Ford) or Adam Winrich on good tutorials on form. They offer great demonstrations of real world techniques.
3. The cracking isn't the physical strike of an object. The bullwhip is the first man made object to break the sound barrier (in the BC era no less!). That loud crack is a super sonic "boom" that breaks the air as the tiny "cracker" at the end flips. It's quite beautiful!
4.The best places to get high quality whips are: Townsend Whips, Midwest Whips, or Catchell Crafts whips. Those're the higher quality possible, and imo whips of those calibers are the ones that'll properly demonstrate all of your requirements/questions.
Yea, I kept cringing at the “observations from amateur skill level”. I know they addressed this was new to them, but I suggest they bring in someone who knows how to properly wield a weapon rather than experiment with something they haven’t had much experience with.
@@DOSHIELD Heck there are some people I know are local to them. Terry Jacka made the whips for Indy IV, and is local in Australia. Could reach out to him for comment, or perhaps he could direct them to some good crackers in the area. It's a worldwide martial art, and I love seeing people taking an interest in it :)
@@reeseparquette7506 From what I know kangaroo leather makes the best bullwhips, something about the way it stretches, so it makes sense they should be able to get high quality whips locally.
@@Devin_Stromgren 1000% correct. All the makers I listed above make them almost exclusively in kangaroo hide. I don't recommend David Morgan's company (the original makers for the OT, and now DoD), because of how highly expensive they are.
There's actually a whip like sword called "urumi" that is basically one or more sharp metal (probably steel but not sure) ribbons attached to a hilt. I don't remember you ever mentioning it although that's not surprising considering your focus on medieval Europe. As far as I understand urumis don't break the sound barrier, so they're whip-like only in the sense that the metal bends. I thought it would be interesting to mention in a whip related video if you ever want to look it up and make a video about it 😄 If you get one, however, be careful as they can be quite dangerous to an inexperienced wielder.
Indian cutting sword x8 lol. They usually come in packs of 8 and are essentially ribbons made of razors. No shield penetration needed, shield warparound lol
I love how much fun Shad appears to be having in this one. This is a great video. 😂
Shad, 30 seconds into the video: *Vigorously licks hand*
*Vigorously shoves finger up own anus, vigorously removes it, and vigorously puts same finger in mouth*
This is a secret asmr video
And then spends time wiping his hands all over himself.
In the classic Roguelike RPG NetHack, the Archaeologist class's starting equipment includes a leather jacket, a fedora, and a +2 bullwhip. It's not a particularly useful weapon, but can be used to retrieve items, disarm enemies, or latch onto something and pull yourself out of a pit.
This was a nice reminder of watching the Mythbusters covering Indiana Jones stuff back in the day.
All the Props to Nate. That is putting your body on the line for your work literally!
You guys need to collab with whip users to see how far you can push the question! Jacques Ze Whipper comes to mind!
Adam Windrich or Anthony De Longis
Oooh yeah he's a good one, he uses show whips mostly but I think I've seen him using longer and more "heavy duty" whips.
I mean, the whip was the choice weapon for vampire hunters.
What about a 𝘊𝘳𝘰𝘴𝘴-Bow
Dip the cracker in holy water.
@@markziff7234that's racist lmao
When blessed, sure
what media besides castlevania have you seen where the whip is the weapon of choice among vampire hunters? even in castlevania the whip is mainly used by belmonts, not vampire hunters in general. also the whip they use isn't their weapon of choice because it's a whip, it's because it's magically enchanted which makes it powerful against vampires. it's even less powerful when used by non bemlonts.
My brother weaves his own whips and can crack a line of soda cans / water bottles in half in a matter of seconds. Genuinely, while I think it's cool to see people exploring the possibilities of a whip, this is one test where getting an expert on the channel would go a long way in answering these nebulous questions of "Would a master be able to..." It's likely that there is a local hobbyist near you, and from what I've seen with my brother and some of the friends he has made through whip making, most of them would be happy to visit and teach.
Or even more than one day of practice
Loved this video. Truly did, boys. I had a cheap leather whip after seeing Temple of Doom. There were some things I noticed about trying to swing from it. One is that it was easier when the leather was more worn in, and there was a technique to getting it to grab a branch. You have to kind of double flick it. Once to get it to wrap around and a little sideways flick as it starts to wrap so that it has a better chance of wrapping and biting on itself. Keep in mind that I was a child with a flea market whip, but good Lord was it fun. Never did get the Fidora though.
Complimentary weapon?
Well, Indiana has a revolver. The whip is his complimentary weapon, Shad!
Nah, Indy's gun is only used when whip is ineffecctive and wits and fists cant solve the problem(Hollywood luck will intervene first and even then he'll try to save an enemy about to die like the guy the guy that got pulled into into the rock pulveriser cause his belt got stuck
@@FrarmerFrankI feel like an in between would be nice to have too.
Fists suck. I mean yes surrounding chairs and bottles or whatever are useful, but I feel like maybe a baton or something to fill the gap between punch and shoot when whip doesn't work could really be nice.
That was an amazing opening few minutes, especially as the lads were talkin about Shad, then he streaked across scene in a panic. Wonderful. Amazing. Stupendiferous.
Got hooked from the short. Have to watch now.
Love the intro glad to see you guys branching out
You guys are forgetting that whip length plays a big factor. Your whip looked to be about 8 -10 foot, a 5-6 foot whip will be far easier to use in smaller spaces and with debris around. I noticed that when you were doing the water bottle test you were almost always hitting it with the FALL (the long strip of leather on the end) of the whip, in order slice through it you need to hit it with CRACKER (the string attached to the fall). You guys also didn't mention that the opponent can easily USE their Sword to Catch the whip and CUT IT (WHIPS ARE NOT CHEAP). That is something the whip user would need to be mindful about.
They should get a whip specialist on. I recall seeing an Aussie whip user on CZcams once.
10' are suited to wrap work.
6' target work
4.5' martial arts work.
12 foot to 20 foot works even better for wrapping around things found 18 footer works better for me
That's the thing about Indiana Jones: that whip is totally magic and changes length on command.
Someone get Jacques Ze Whipper on the case
Shad dressed as Indy and this skit gives me mad JonTron Vibes
I swear I've heard of dagger/whip dual-wielding, somewhere. Then there's the issue of shorter whips (like horsehair whisks, or the nagaika), which admittedly tend to lack the binding potential the sheer length of that beauty grants you.
Dagger + whip seems like it would be a pretty good combo. Shorter blade means less chance of entangling your own weapon with the whip, and very effective if you can drag someone down to stab.
Yeahhh but even better if whip was stronger and harder like say a chain....and add to that something nastier than a dagger and you get kusarigama
@@galadballcrusher8182 “But if you use an assault rifle, they can’t reach you” That’s an entirely different weapon type - the kusarigama can be used to entangle, sure, but it doesn’t work like a whip, since it has a weight on the end of the chain. I think you might have misunderstood my point; I didn’t mean a combined weapon, I meant a weapon combination - two weapons used in conjunction. And there are always other variants that can improve on a certain set of circumstances, but I meant in a general sense, since in the demonstration the sword getting in the way seemed to be an issue.
ive actually experimented with this a bit myself useing my bull whip in combination with other weapons and yeah a dagger like my bowie knife pairs best with it for that exact reason, you can kinda make a sword work but you really need to pay attention or you will get tangled up quick unless maybe using a shorter sword maybe.
I was about to comment this
@@mikkohernborg5291 and i think you misunderstood my point some as well. First off i know very well the difference between a whip and a chain thanks very much but the point for me was how they are applied . Even without the elasticity of the whip basically a chain is used roughly for the same actions, strikes and attempts to entangle, therefore crowd and ground control. And if you know how kusarigama is used, one uses the weighted chain for strikes and entanglement and once entanglement succeeds can apply the kama part for slashing or stabbing finishing moves, it never was used by twirling around the kama using the chain. So while it is a single weapon it is used as a set if 2 exactly like what you would so with a whip and a dagger combo .
I would like to thank you Shad, for the greatest facial expressions to reference when drawing. Your channel is an invaluable resource when it comes to many things, but this goes seldom appreciated.
That intro is fantastic! Good work to the team
I need to say Thank you ..learned alot from this video
10/10 would watch Shad intimidate an artifact again.
This is why I love Shad and his crew... This right here.
This was awesome! I have a character in my novel who uses a whip as supplementary weapon and this was great for research.
After seeing this, I wonder if a lasso would be even more affective. Like if you managed to tie it around their neck, or a limb, and yank it, maybe again with a blade in your other hand
That intro was so stupidly funny.
And it was cool to see the advantages and disadvantages of the whip being shown like that!
We all know whips are just long, flaccid nunchucks
The key is to think of it as a long flaccid stick
Don't understand it.
It's actually more like a long flaccid pommel
You can put a weight,stilleto, or spike on the whip though those tips just usually go on a 25- 30 foot metal chain rather then a leather whip and the fighting style is different as yo try to hit opponent the weapon head on the endd
Very unique way to explain things. Good work
yay ive been asking for a whip video for a while now
Your skits just keep getting better and better You never fail to impress me with your creative originality!
Chopping down swords with trees might be my favorite slip-up I've heard in a long time.
This really helped with my worldbuilding. Thanks shad!
That was by far the best intro I’ve seen in a long while.
The opening with Shad trying to get through the door? Had me nearly in tears. Lmao
I can hear the Nunchuck fans angry at Shad enjoying a whip more.
Well, the whip is long continues object, not a broken stick that’s held loosely together.
I thought the consensus was that the nunchuck is a viable weapon just other things, like the stick, are better as the require less training for pretty much the same outcome.
@@twinarcher8123 "Nunchucks - What are they if not a mentally disabled stick?"
"Seriously, nunchucks are basically like a stick that had a *stroke.* "
"Nunchucks are just sticks suffering from Erectile Stickfunction."
"It is the inbred, mentally disabled cousin of the *mighty stick* - that's what nunchucks are."
Another great video watching you test a weapons practicality!
I'm also wondering if you'll do another review video of some of the unpublished creative writing samples you received years ago. I really enjoyed that video and am currently working on my own book as well
This was a pretty great video. Funny I loved it.
Okay ONE moment!! Let's just take a moment to appreciate the acting and work done JUST for that intro buildup skit, this is art! ♥
(also Shad being waterboarded?)
Only Shad to bring us something good about Indiana Jones on recent days…
Great work, as always!
I laughed sooooohard!! Thx Shad! :D
Thanks Shad and crew! You are THE ONLY people that made a video of how an armored oponent fares against armor. I needed this for RPG research.
Now... Consider how much effective this could be as a striking weapon if the end had a weathed head or a knife and how nasty it would at grappling it the end "tail" had barbs :O . I guess it would be 10x more usefull.
Now, I will note that there are also some more... 'destructive' whips, like the "Cat O Nine Tails" which has razors on the edge and is meant as a method of punishment and I imagine has more chance at tangling and grappling.
Still, the fact that a 'normal' whip is as effective as is really eye opening.
Plus the whip they use is mainly used for intimidation and/or restraining and not for actual fight.
I've not heard of a cat-of-nine-tails with razors in the tips. As far as I have seen they were just knotted at the ends.
If you have any examples I'd love to hear about them.
The cat as designed by thr british navy was either notted or with small weights. No razors sorry. Also was very short and meant for punishment.
@@dd11111I don’t believe the cat was typically knotted, unless for a particularly severe punishment.
@@jmcc4566 Well, in more extreme cases it would be knotted with glass or bone fragments, but to deserve a punishment that hard you'd have to really mess up since I guess the next punishment in the list would be death itself.
Should I, somehow, ever find myself in the position of retrieving a priceless ancient artifact I will definitely be sure to rub some pit stank and fermunda cheese on my hands before pilfering it. Thanks for the pro-tip Shad!
Love the mythbusters vibe you have going with your conclusions! Great video
Nice little video as always. But I think there is still potential for a second video here. It would be interesting to explore where the whip was used as a weapon throughout history and the different whip versions.
I have watched many videos explaining whips, even ones using detailed graphics etc. But I must say, I think shad has done the best job I've seen so far in explaining it in a way most normal human beings understand.
in terms of the wrap around affect. seeing the whip wrap around Boromir's head and the tip smack him in the face, I winced. That could easily injure an eye.
My dad had a bull whip, he used to be a zoo keeper, but had left the profession before I was born. I remember as a little boy asking him to demonstrate the use of it. I stood at the doorway he went to the rolling access road (low traffic area very empty) he used the whip it was awesome, couldnt see much as it was getting dark but it cracked very well front and back.
Excellent video, gents! Keep it up!
This just highlights the genius of Zoro
(who made made whips look badass in combat way before Indie)
Big strong dude with very lean weapons. So deadly, yet he mercifully just brands them.
Zoro using a whip also makes more sense setting wise. In the 18th and 19th century Southwest a bullwhip would be a commonplace item.
This is the most Australian Shad had ever looked
“There’s only 3 Indiana Jones movies”
FACTS!!!
Reminds me of a Roleplay I was in once (No specific system, not many rules) where my character got in a fight with someone who was using a barbed whip as their primary weapon. Tactic he used was wrapping his cloak around one arm to catch and tangle up the whip, pull his enemy off balance and into sword range.
There are also different types of whips with different poppers that you can replace for different uses. Imagine the bullwhip having razor sharps blades, barbs, hooks, etc. You can even soak the popper string with poison.
Sounds like a Roman scourge on steroids.
Poison the tip and whip yourself in the ass... woops lol
I love Nate lol. He's a funny and down-to-earth just generally nice guy
Agreed. Not supposed to have favourites but Nath is my fav!
@@Trisjack20 Don't get me wrong. I love Tyranth too! I've just already complimented him back when he first joined so I felt Nate needed some love too lol The whole crew honestly is just great
@@odotawaissaku3755 I completely agree. I did not misunderstand you, not throwing Shade here. The old guy is just my favourite :) So flipping based!
Really cool video guys, awesome work! I'm a Filipino Martial Arts practitioner as a hobby and we actually use the whip as a weapon in combination with a dagger or small sword in some of our training. Very similar to some of the conclusions you came to here, using it to entangle the head or limbs and finish off with the dagger, or to stun or even temporarily blind opponents with hits to the face before closing in, that's the theory anyway. There's also some usage of it like a rope close in and using a sturdier handle to bash like a stick, but that's less common. Thanks again, awesome video keep up the good work.
the Pathfinder 1e Whip does non-lethal damage, does not add full strength to the damage, and is considered "Exotic" due to it's difficulty and rarity. I really think this is a very fair assessment of the whip and it's base stats, and aligns with shad's opening assessment. *EDIT: It also does no damage to any one with armor
A whip can kill a small animal, like a snake, from a fair distance. The crack can intimidate many larger animals. And with a properly treated whip (I suggest saddle soap, but everybody has a preference) can grip a post or branch so long as it has sufficient friction: surface to surface. these would be the most likely uses for the tool by Indy in his everyday outings.
as a reminder, Mythbusters did 2 episodes including the whip, and did pretty good jobs of it IMO.
This video has given me some neat ideas on how to break the 5e whip
Something something use it as an offhand and convince the DM to let me grapple with it
Battle Master Fighter seems like the best bet.
i was thinking of making a (dnd 5e) fighter who dual wielded whips
@@kylesimone6140 it’s a shame polearm master doesn’t apply to all reach weapons lol. Could you imagine?
@@VidelxSpopovich dear god
@@kylesimone6140 Nice! I have a weakness for making bizarre characters, and in PF1e certain clerics got Whip proficiency as a bonus from their deities: a few feats later, and I was delivering touch healing from 15' away (3 squares, in a field, not a ring mind you!) by whipping my allies! 🤣
It worked thematically since we were pirates!
Shad has better film making talent than Lucus Film at this point. Great video shad ❤