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Guild Wars 2 - 10,000 Years, Time Stuff
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- čas přidán 15. 08. 2015
- A brief look into the history of Tyria today, guys! Haven't just sat and.. talked about something random for a while! Let me know what you think and have fun!
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Various different reshade presets being shown on this one, let me know which clips you liked?
WoodenPotatoes I loved the one in the canyon with the bright lights? can i download those settings?
love the dry top preset gj on that one. Colors and contrast are just perfect. Maybe too much glow on bright spots tough. Would love to download the preset. Oh and btw how do you set your gw2 graphic settings? Do you use the new light thingy? (forgot the Name sry)
WoodenPotatoes check ur messages pls, I made a video to show u the black lion vaults u talked about in one of ur recent videos.
klonur He didn't notice a difference according to an earlier video, so he's _probably_ not using it now, either.
klonur No I don't, it washes out the dark areas even worse for me!
Death by level 5 Bandits on video while in a party. This is why we can't have harder content!
Snares PvP Necro needs buffs, obviously!
WoodenPotatoes Actually Death shroud/minionmancer necros have some survivability , I lasted or around two minutes soloing a guard and an ele in the tiny canon space in skyhammer. Blood magic helps too :)
WoodenPotatoes Can't tell if you are serious or joking.
WoodenPotatoes do you think the gods will return when kryta is 1000 years old and humanity is almost destroyed
WoodenPotatoes
tbh WP I am confused when you talk about wanting harder content. You seem to die constantly in these videos. (don't get me wrong, you are way better than me) but you die so easily, or at least more than I would expect from someone who wants really hard content & a lot of it is 1-2 shotting. to me that is red flag the game is broken. I find 1-shotting the most boring kind of balance conceivable in a game. & yet ALL the hard content in GW2 seems to be based on it.
I liked the slow burn in GW1 where I would slowly take the mobs health down & they would slowly burn down mine until finally I won. Felt way more satisfying than "oh, i didn't spend 10 hrs making a build designed to keep me from being 1 shot".
**Opens CZcams sub feed.
Sees a WP video with "Lore" in the title.
Foams at the mouth.**
***** xD
***** hahahahahahha peachy you brighten my day even by commenting on wp vids xD
Cringe
It honestly is incredible to think about just.. the vastness of this universe's timeline across not only GW1 and GW2 but beyond that. Also to think that Anet at any time could just be like "yeah, we should go fill in this badass story with a fractal or 2" and we could go back into any of these perhaps grey areas and experience them as if they were happening right now. Exciting stuff.
please dont stop making videos , at this moment there are no news and i feel anxious , i keep refreshing everything every 1 hour to check for news , including your pages .
You made me fell very sad about killing the elder dragons now, cant we just capture them and keep em in a Zoo?
tSGtGaming Nah, they're Elder Dragons, they should be put in a nursing home with good care.
Why not a nursing zoo
Btw if you are touching on the old races again, did you ever consider the human gods might have been originally on the same level as mursaat, and only 6 survived and then they adopted the human race between that 10000 gap.
Thanks WP, the ancient history of Tyria fascinates me ... particularly the origins of the human species on the planet (and before?); not to mention the nature of the human gods and how they began (were they all originally humans? If so what happened to cause them to become gods? Was it like some Fantastic Four deal? If they weren't all originally humans, why the interest in the human species?) ... though I suspect the lore doesn't quite cover that.
"Hello, sir. Are you okay? Are you breathing?" ahahahhaahahahah
If we're about to get Charr-centric expansion after weeds and HoT, I can't wait for this.
Even right now, I have a basic idea for Elite Specialization Revenants could get with it.
Remember Paragon stuff? Let's dire it up a bit and give Revenants *Kalla Scorchrazor Legend* and Leadership traitline with *Chants as utilities and Greatsword*. Chants could give allies Stances, we could get Echoes and first greatsword that wouldn't be about damage or boons, but about leading your allies and supporting them in unique ways.
Wooooo! An actual video about lore! I'm drooling already...
About current lore I think they said early in hot development (maybe when LA was released) that the day the HOT launches is the date of the end of HOT, if that makes sense. I remember one of the devs coming on to say that.
Let's say HOT launches 1 December and end boss is mordemoth, then at beginning of 1328 the pact was destroyed, for the full year we fought him and at December we won, and then living story will continue after that in time with real time.
imprisoned for 10,000 years..... banished from my own homeland
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You are not Prepared!
I love the way you say helicopter
A mild note about the advance of technology: consider 1715 to now. That's also 300 years and we only have one race of people! We've actually accomplished more in the same amount of time, in a lot of ways. Their advancement has gone in different directions, but it's no less significant. Waypoints, Asura Gates, tanks, guns, clearly they have some sort of advancement in clothing technology with the level of embroidery and stitchwork, sprinklers, airships... none of that should be discounted by any means, but it's fairly believable when you look at what we've accomplished. At the VERY least, consider, we're going to space. Probes to other worlds, vaccines, automobiles for just about everyone, the internet... etc. I do hear people call this out a lot, but it's surprisingly believable.
Adam B plus they have magic in tyria
sylvnfox There's a lot of theories that the existence of magic removes the necessity of invention and would cause technological advances to stagnate. People innovate magically, instead.
Yet, somehow, the most powerful spells are always ancient.
Koviko Good point about the most powerful magic always being ancient. I always thought about that too.
Perhaps that's why they advance technology. The powerful magic from the past has somehow been lost or forgotten, and the only way to retrieve it is through technology, which is much more accessible and understandable to the mortals that seek the ancient magics.
Mr E - Mystery :D I have always loved that
Yay a lore video!! I love the knowledge and enthusiasm you put into your lore videos. :)
Just noticed off hand, the picture of ruins you showed from the Crystal Desert (21:07) has a remarkable similarity to the Town of Prosperity in Dry Top.
It's worth noting that one person sank the rather large island of Orr. Artificial changes to the landscape can be pretty dramatic in Tyria.
I really love these lore videos I had honestly quit gw2 for the most part until I found all these videos made by you and found it so awsome that anet had taken note of such small things like the gargoyles vanishing so now I, back to playing it and glad if stuck around for all the really interesting things that have happened since
So in other words huge THX wp basically your the reason I'm still playing
I think a way they could do it to fit HoT into the timeline is to say: The events of HoT started at the end of Living story and ends at the release of the expantion. So that when we finish the HoT story a few days after it releases, it didn't just happen in a few days, it has been going on since the living story season 2 ended.
These are some of my favourite types of videos.
Hi there WP. Nice to see you doing lore videos again :D
I'm still waiting for the end of your fabled GW1 lore series.
According to the story journal, which I looked through yesterday, 1328 doesn't occur the story step that moves into Silverwastes...I think, or maybe the one after that.
I wish in HoT Canach wears his fused gauntlets. That was epic when we went to beat him in The South Sun patch when he went rogue and he had those.
They showed us the warrior special image on twitter! :D Torch!
WP as always you deliver a good video just in time. I was looking through youtube with nothing to do and then I see your video.
i think 1328 is the year all of HoT takes place, so that in 2016, season 3 takes place in 1329 (i hope). 'cause they've said time and time again that HoT's story begins roughly 24 hours after the end of season 2.
so we're out of sync here because of the expansion work, but since the expansion is released all at once, they can have the whole story take place throughout the year, just like the core release's personal story
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When measuring the length of time in Tyria. What about all those day/night cycles that occur within a regular real life day?
Woop random lore is best lore! With the 10 000 years thing I always thought of Guild Wars as a somewhat smaller scale fantasy Mass Effect dealio. The Reaper cycle taking 50 000 years is practically pretty close to the Elder Dragon cycle taking 10 000 years. Although eating away all the magic from the world isn't as deadly to the dominant races/species as actual extinction.
What is his armor set in the video...first time I see this (haven't played for a few months)
it makes sense that we only know 2 cycles of dragon awakening because the last awakening (10.000 be) was the only one that was survived by some races thanks to glint. there are probably more awakening before 10.000 be but the dragons simply killed everyone during those
Hi WP,
ive always enjoyed your videos and the way you take the time to explain lore. I just want to thank you for all that you do. On a side note, im not sure if anyone noticed this or mentioned it before but your voice kind of sounds like the actor Julian Morris. Haha! That got me thinking if you kind of look like him too. One can only dream right? I hope so cause Julian is one good looking hunk. :)
Well keep up the hard work, im forever a fan.
Wow :o I didn't realize my mail would inspire a video
hey wp, don't know it that surprising of the technology for GW1 to GW2, because i you look at our history the Helicopter was made in Sep 14 1939, and the Tank was made in Sep 15 1916. Though looking at this it is kinda funny that they were made 23 years 1 day apart. Though a interesting way of think of how long this is, is that it is 10 * the age of Kryta's Independence.
Hey WP, what's the song playing in the background, around 8:30? Nice relaxing tunes.
didn't they take that "fractals are the past" quote back after some time, because it didn't make sense for the Asura fractal etc? And I'd love some context for the fractals, I hope they expand on that. Maybe even just optional stuff to read.
WoodenPotatoes You talk about time in this video, any chance talking about space? What is outside tyria? the eternal alchemy, the dragons etc all seem to center completely around tyria, but the gods came from somewhere. Do you think that other planets have a similar balance around similar "magical forces" like the dragons of tyria? I know this would be pure speculation, but if the "eternal alchemy" the "All" etc seems to be a tyria-centric view of cosmology.
The Dry Top preset was fantastic. Will you be uploading it if many people want it? The colors look a lot less washed out, and the lighting was on point. Sometimes I wish these things were default in game options anyway.
Everyone keeps talking about the using the forgotten ritual save Trahearne and the Sylvari I have always wondered why we don't have any npc from the pact trying to save branded charr/human or Icebrood Norn/Quaggen/Koden seems like they should have shared this information
Never really hear much about the dragons effect on the other contents. I know Cantha is far away, but Elona is just a hop-and-skip below the Crystal Desert. I thinking Bubbles goes to Cantha and raises Jade Minions from the Jade Sea, and also, other stuff that hides down there. (Like that Demon dude who was buried under the Jade in one mission) Because I would hate for bubbles to just have Hylek, Quaggan, Krait, Sea Dragon Minions. We've already seen them as Zhitan Minions. Also, maybe Kraggatork will travel to Elona and befriend/corrupt Palawa Joko, and make him his new right hand ^_^ that'd be sweet!!!
I really wish they had a more effective way of telling these stories in game. Load screens would be a great spot to add lore. Even an in game journal that a player could visit that gave explanations and stories.
luigirmuscolino Load screens aren't long enough to add lore... :/
Also you missed the book sea of sorrows! Orr rising, the founding of new lions arch, zhaitan rising, and all that stuff.
Do you think that we'll ever see a seperate trait board for water combat? Maybe to match Steve?
hey WP really enjoyed this! fascinating stuff
would also love to know what the background track at the end was if possible :O
I'd love to see a realy detailed story overview over GW1 , i look for something like that fow a few weeks now, cannot realy find something like that!
@Draskang Clearly the elder dragons aren't neutral or morally gray forces of nature. Mordremoth, Zaitan, and Kralkatorrik have all shown a capacity for thought and planning. They're not mindless forces of nature, you don't have to look very hard to see that. Just look at the actions of their minions; their minions are effectively extensions of their will, the minions taunt you with the death of your mentor... that's definitely not morally gray.
I also don't understand the hate for Scarlet still in hindsight. The only reasonable criticism I ever heard against her was "she avoids being defeated and is always in the right place at the right time", that's fair, but plot armor isn't a huge sin in my opinion, especially since she ended up dying anyway.
If you're going to argue "well, she was a genius for no reason." and I guess that would be reasonable if she wasn't connected to the knowledge of the elder dragon. Elder dragon hive mind.
Also, I haven't played the beta yet, but a friend of mine that has mentioned that his Sylvari character get's C'thun style whispers from the elder dragon; which is pretty cool, imo.
Michael Riley I didn't realize you could only hear the Modremoth speak on Sylvari characters. It makes sense, but it also makes me a bit sad because actually hearing Mordremoth speak and interact with his minions made him an infinitely more interesting villain than Zhaitan was after only a single mission.
As for Scarlet hate, I don't think you can really expect people to forgive Scarlet's poor implementation during season 1 just because they managed to explain away a lot of her issues later on.
+Matt D when does he speak?
Guardian Thunder He speaks twice during that mission, when the champion calls for backup and the vine pops out of the ground to spit some msions he speaks during that scene, if you aren't a Sylvari it just looks like it was a cutscene showing the mobs appear, but as a Sylvari you hear Morde reply to his call for backup.
The second time is at the end of the mission there was an akward pause I noticed, but when on Sylvari you hear Morde saying you will fail or something to that degree.
Michael Riley in one of the asuran personal story missions there is a conversation in the background where an asura confesses that the sylvari are 2nd only to asura in inteligence
Matt D Scarlet is definitely a better character now than she was in season 1. Funnily enough, her character got a lot better after she died.
Maybe mursaat 'disappeared' from the other ancient races by simply travelling 10,000 years forward in time through the mist?
Thanks man, I'm new.
Also, I assume you're running a visual mod for the game based on your other videos? I set my game to Ultra, but it doesn't look this good.
11:30 "Once Heart of Thorns comes out, just after Christmas..." Wait what?
Thank you for all the lore.
Hey WP, do you think GW2's tribal armor - a set that was completely removed from the game for no reason and never put back - Could be coming back into the game with HoT? I feel like many people don't know about this, having come into the game after that happened.
I know I ask this question in every goddamn video without response, but I have faith one day you will notice. Balthazar give me strength.
That new mic sounds AMAZING...
If Glint was older than the Shiverpeaks it means she was at least several millions of years old. That's the age we should expect if she really was older than mountains.
But with the dragons and all... who knows. Maybe they're able to reshape Tyria to the point they can create mountains.
WoodenPotatoes your gw2 looks pretty fancy, do you use something like gemfx and if yes could you do a video about your setting and put a download to it?
WP, in this video and recently, you have been messing around with reshade and post-processing... Will you be making a tutorial on how to install reshade for GW2? I have seen the concreteduck videos and you seem very interested!
Not to sound like a creepo but I liked it when you said "fancy" lol
If we are killing more elder dragons doesn't that mean that the current rise will last longer due to a larger pool of magic to feed off and that when they rise next(if they survive our current rampage) it will be in a much shorter time for instance 4500 years instead of 10000
The quote was "as old as the shiverpeaks" not older than the shiverpeaks!
I didn't actually play Living Story Season 1 because I wasn't interested; maybe it was because it was a newer concept or something, but not I really with I had played it because it introduced Destiny's Edge 2.0 and I really wish I had that lore from the in game content :P
Started laughing when saw Xunlai Chests :P. still wanting that you could use those chests in eotn
Do we have confirmation that it was E that gave the dragon's Egg to the Zephyrites?
The game looks beautiful.
Fluffy video !?! glad i didnt go to bed yet..
I just decided recently to reread Ghosts of Ascalon!!!
hycup Great book, I might do that as well :o
WoodenPotatoes EDIT: Ignore this foolishness, I need to remember to fact-check before posting and not after. The timeline still makes no sense however, I don't think the devs quite realise how long 10,000 years is. (Caution: long comment and lots of speculation ahead. TLDR at bottom.) Point of contention here, 10,000 years ago is not specifically the previous time the Elder Dragons rose. that is the given estimation for when the Giganticus Lupicus went extinct, and it can be reasonably concluded that the Elder Dragons killed them. The previous rising of the Elder Dragons was the one with the Mursaat, Jotun, Seers, Forgotten, and Dwarves, which is not necessarily the same rising as the one that killed the Giants. 10,000 years is a long time after all, and these civilizations had not yet recovered from their Elder Dragon encounter, leading me to conclude that the cycle is probably more like 2,000 to 5,000 years. In fact it's probably on the shorter end of that spectrum, as the only thing I can think of that would prevent the eventual recovery of the Mursaat and Forgotten from rebuilding is the sudden arrival and meteoric rise of humanity forcing them to remain hidden. There are really a lot of inconsistencies in this part of the lore, no doubt due to the lack of Elder Dragons in the original plot. Still, I would imagine a lot of people take these videos as canon, and this particular detail could be significant in the future. Still a great video, good to see you doing lore again.
TLDR Don't jump to conclusions about the timing of Elder Dragon cycles, the pre-human lore is a mess and needs fixing, keep up the good work!
I feel like you should do more lore videos. Not really sure what there is to cover but still
Yay more lore!
those structures in the crystal desert could have been build by the margonites since they lived there when it was a sea and were banished into the realm of torment for being supporters of abbadon
10 000 Be: the last of Giganticus Lupicus, the great giant, disappear from the trian continent
My question is why anet is giving us this info that is 10 000 years BE?
I hope they actually have the when and why for the colossus internally.
Ok nice and stuff...where is the intro?
zsombor becskeházi Sometimes I skip it :D
How did they explain shorter day/night cycles of 2 hours when stating that years pass at the same speed on Tyria as in our real world?
Do Tyrian years have twelve times as many days? Are they actually 2 hours long then if a sun cycle takes the same time for Tyria as for our earth? (Think about less than an hour of night to sleep in, etc.)
I think someone screwed up in this department. What's canonical doesn't even matter when it comes to the passing of time, it is acceptable that time passes at different rates in fictional realities, but by pinning it down on "one earth year = one Tyria year", that makes no sense to me. If they truly would give up on storytelling techniques like speeding up or slowing down time - the 1year/1year definition seems like fan speculation spinning out of control to me - we 'd have to deal with years of nothing significant happening...
Maybe an overeager fan misinterpreted a released statement hm?
Whoo! Bed time story! :D
Perfect timing WP!
lahdra?
Just a thought, but what if E is one of Glint's children?
What is all this "after Christmas" talk? Does he know something about a release date we don't? or did I miss something?
FLUFFY VIDEO!
There comes a time when you need to start explaining parts of a story and I think ArenaNet has definitely surpassed that time. I've been playing GW for 8yrs now and I know like 1% of the story. I understand ArenaNet is assumed to exist forever (as a business entity) but it's kind of crazy how long of a drawn out story this is. Maybe they don't even know where the story is going.
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Ugh.. every time I hear a recap of the GW2 story.. just reminds me of how crap the GW2 lore is.. for frick's sake.. It's so hilarious that Scarlet is even part of this universe. I hope the writers are ashamed of Scarlet. Unfortunately, based on what they've made, I bet they are mad people called them out on that turd.
As for the Elder Dragons having weight.. sorry.. the Elder Dragons suck as villains. I would have been down with them if they we like creepy, Cthulian, eldritch horrors, yeah. They'd be freaky & scary & cool. But they aren't. They are just large beasts that do something _really_ boring.. They eat magic & just kill stuff. When they corrupt is isn't freaky & cool.... you just get zombies or worse: Scarlet. a horrible, jokey, sassy, modern Villain Sue
Abbadon was awesome.. he had character. he had a past with humans & gods that he interacted with.. the Elder Dragons? They are "a force of nature" or "the cycle" An attempt to make them morally gray they became the worst, most boring plot device ever. (other than Scarlet) Ok.. so we _aren't_ supposed to kill them because they are needed? we need to replace them or put them back to sleep? Wow. even more boring then just fighting them.
tbh, it sounds like they wanted to replace the Gods with something that was essentially the same, but more boring because they have no personality & they are all just generic "dragons". (though they made a small attempt with Xaitan to look diff). i'm sorry.. but the age of the dragons doesn't make them more interesting.. It only makes them harder to accept. You don't have the entire populace of the world fight against the most significant threat in the universe, _purposefully_ put them to sleep & then not have every culture, religion, govt & dog not be centered around the fact that they could rise at any time. Also the whole "we have to 1 up the gods" just poops on the previous lore.
E could be Eve. Perhaps a powerful Necromancer should be immortal and still retain their mind.
301 club disbanded. I crei everyteim
I just laugh when I think about why the Forgotten are called Forgotten, they must have been a race with some name and not just forgotten. Someone must have been like "What were these creatures name again, I have forgotten. Yeah lets name them forgotten"
'A brief History of Time' you say? ... I believe Stephen Hawkins may have a thing or two to say about this :D
Dustforce music :)
Not Surprising, IRL we have trouble memorizing all of the last 2.000 years.
Wibbly wobbly timey wimey...
I kinda wanna hear more about the teen pregnancy statistics...
how do you make the game look that nice!!? i want that :3
why does your game run so smooth -_-?
Yay
I really hope its not released as late as December
Awesome video. Thank you so much.
I wish anet was doing a bit better with story telling.
Do I see lore series?
why your UI looks so "up"?
*drool* lore
All of the games lore feels so hard to find in game. Personal story is *shudder* bad memories. Living story is where it's getting better. But I really hope HoT is chock full of lore / backstory.
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A++ WP video