Police called on property owners after HOA increases monthly fees to $350
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- čas přidán 12. 07. 2023
- A homeowners association meeting at the Mandarin Lakes neighborhood in Naranja Lakes went off the rails. The Tuesday night meeting was cut short after residents say the cops were called by the HOA.
We need a nationwide ban on HOAs.
@@empressskno they aren't....HOAs arent that common
@@hungsolow7090idiot.
@@fishjohn014yes they are…HOAs are very common
@@fishjohn014they’re very common.
Stupid! The vast majority of HOAs are fine. You hear about the bad ones and think that’s all of them. HOAs are the only option for people who can’t afford a private home, but don’t want to flush their hard earned money down the rent toilet. HOAs are non-profit corporations. You can’t ban corporations! Owners are not forced to live in HOAs which are governed by state laws like every other corporation. The owners vote for the board! They can vote the out!!
The fact that an HOA can actually take over your home and leave you homeless is reason enough to understand its out of control.
Why do you think people put themselves in a situation like that inn the first place? I can't understand or relate to such stupidity... insanity in my book, definitely mental health issues going on in America
Sounds oddly like the Government, i mean the prices for rent are so high due to us giving our money to Ukraine, its killing America
@@andrewgoodwill4591 Karens love them. Many are on the board.
Makes me never want to buy a home with an HOA.
@@tybarker5038 that's a great idea. NEVER put yourself in that position.... Smart thinking
I have told this many times. I had an HOA advise me that they had voted my property into their HOA and that I had 30 days to come into compliance. I sent a response that I was not part of their HOA. 30 days later I started receiving violation notices in my mailbox. I sent a cease and desist letter. A month later, I received a notice of intent to seize my property if I was not in compliance in 10 days. Two weeks later I received notice of a scheduled hearing. At the courthouse, the attorney for the HOA recognized me and asked if I represented the homeowner, and I told him that I was the homeowner. I told him that I was not part of the HOA and they had been advised of that in writing several times. In court, the HOA president told how I had ignored all notices and refused to pay fines. When it was my turn, I asked her how long the property had been a part of the HOA, she gave the date they had voted my property in. I asked her if she had membership documents signed by me. She said "No, you refused so we voted you in" The judge, and their attorney both said HUH ? ? ? I then asked her about putting violation notices in my mailbox and she said that was the only way since I refused to install a notice box at my garage door. I asked her if she realized that putting main in a US mailbox was a federal crime. She said "not in a HOA" I saw their attorney shake his head. The judge asked her how she thought that the HOA could vote someone in without their consent, she said the annexed the property according to their by-laws. I asked the judge for a judgment as a matter of law, and consideration of my counter-claim. The judge said "granted to both, state your counter-claim" I outlined my compensatory damages, and then asked for putative damages in the amount of $5000 per violation notice, and an additional $10,000 for the frivolous case. The judge granted $350,000 in putative damages, and just over $50,000 in actual damages for time, and earnings lost responding and researching their claims. HOA woman said that the HOA could not pay the judgement. I told the judge that I would accept the vacant 20 Acres of association property adjoining my property with the release of HOA claims. The HOA voted the next week to release the property and remove Caren (Yes her name is Caren) as HOA president. I found out that she wanted my property as access to the additional acres the HOA had purchased to build additional homes to sell. Subsequently, the members of the HOA voted to dissolve the HOA as without the additional anticipated acreage income, they could not continue to fulfill the HOA obligations. The entire neighborhood (save a few) is much happier with the HOA gone.
Wow!!
Not all heros wear capes 😊
Did you study law? How does average person learn to defend them selves like you rightfully did?
Get off my lawn,
Allllll my lawn
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When I was looking for a home, one of the first things I checked was whether the property was part of an HOA. No thanks!
You're one of the smart people. There are so many people who act like they don't have a choice of where to buy.
Unfortunately if you’re looking at specific location, they may only have HOA run houses
Same here. My wife and I are shopping for a new home and my #1 requirement is no HOA.
Wise choice, 1,000% agree
@@2112jp Simple, pick another area.
Time to get rid of the HOA.
lol.
LOL!!!!!!!!!!
Yes
Yes, instead of solving the problem, you just get rid of it. You are why America will one day lose its freedoms. You must be a Democrat.
Any ideas on how you going to deal with the common elements and the amenities? Look at the pictures it’s not single family homes.
Buying a home just to pay what is essentially rent is insane
Isn't it a yearly fee?
@@nickd920 The title of the video says "monthly fee" so they're paying it every month.
@@Kagrenackleholy hell 💀
Then don’t buy a home!
@@HypeBeast764 Are you honestly defending the monthly fees in the video? Insane…
Board members should be the residents elected. Not corrupted employees.
They are owners of properties in the community, that's how HOA's work. But they hire management companies to manage the HOA; they are the ones who treat owners like their tenants with no rights. The boards are only as good as the people elected to them. Generally they have no skill sets to run a community. I gave up trying to help my HOA board with a siding project (I have a construction background) when I was told by a "life coach" and a retired "nurse" on the board that only their opinions mattered. Now the project is way over budget, numerous homes have damage from the contractor they hired (who subsequently walked away from the project). Never buy into an HOA.
We need to normalize a simple lifestyle and stop normalizing debt. Huge SUVs, huge houses and private universities are simply not necessary. I live within my budget and I sleep better at night knowing that if I lose my job tomorrow, ' be fine. I didn't buy the biggest house. I bought the one I could comfortably repay
Yeah can being frugal be sexy please? recently mentioned that I'm frugal to a young woman and she gave me the weirdest look... Being financially responsible is looked down on
I wish I could find it, but I remember reading a study once that claimed financially insolvent men had 1.5-2x more sexual partners than their financially solvent counterparts.
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Yes, instead of fighting for the pay we deserve, we should live pitiful lives so that capital owners can become filthy rich off of our labor. 😂
Why anyone would live under an HOA is beyond me. It kind of defeats the purpose of living in the USA.
There are some advantages, I've never painted this house, but it gets painted every 5 years and a new coating on the roof every other year, I had a tree blow over in a storm last winter, the tree was removed the stump was ground and the grass was replanted, the other trees I have get trimmed every year. We get the streets repaved every couple years, I have a nice large yard that gets cut every Friday, during the Fall and Winter the Landscape crew comes by every day and cleans up the yards and streets of the falling leaves.
@@Timinator62Sounds to me that's what homeowners and cities should be doing regardless. HOAs are just middle men taking their cut for other's work.
Not necessarily! We live on a lake in CT and the fees aren't that bad and it pays for the $10,000 worth of fish we stock in the lake each year as well as lake maintenance. It pays for the upkeep and maintenance on all the facilities including the office, club house, gym, pool, tennis courts x6, playground, beach, snack bar....etc. *They don't tell us how to paint our home or what we can hang outside or anything like that,* but what we get in return is massive in comparison to the small yearly amount we pay. We also lived on a golf coarse in NC which the HOA fees went towards the same kinds of things...no one ever told us what we could or couldn't do. This HOA seems to be making things up to raise the price to line their own pockets is my guess.
@@Timinator62you think that is worth what they usually do to homeowners
@@murphybrown1366 Well I live in an area with well over 250 HOAs and NONE of them are making Headlines on our Local News... so, I know nothing about "what they do to Homeowners"
I had lost my job and was a couple of months behind on my HOA payments. $700 total. They actually filed an eviction with the county sheriff. The sheriff came to my door to notify me but told me he was going to pretend the eviction notice was "lost" in their system. He couldn't believe they were doing that over $700.
Not only just 700 bucks, it’s not rent or a mortgage payment, wtf.
That sheriff hates HOA’s, too.
You got lucky!
But yes, I’ve heard of HOA’s being able to essentially evict people then buy their houses for pennies on the dollar. Their level of legal power Is insane.
They probably recorded a lien against your property, then foreclosed on it. I have seen HOA foreclosures for less than $500. They suck.
@@catherinelw9365They...suck? Is that it?
@@catherinelw9365 Fortunately, they did not. I was able to pay the balance before they took any further action. (The silly thing is I was scheduled to pay it the next day anyway). I know I was very lucky to have such a nice sheriff come to my door.
Our HOA recently decided we needed 10,000 from each resident or be evicted, and when a woman who has even had help with groceries from the community she's having so many financial woes asks what would happen to her they smiled as they said we would lease your home.. every board member was dismissed.
Every board member was fired?! Really?
Edog. That story is BS. An HOA can't "evict" a homeowner. And an HOA cannot "lease your home".
Those actions are done to renters.
@@AFAskygoddess Yea this isnt true man
HO can essentially evict somebody. They put a lien on your house and if you don’t pay the lien, they can actually send your house to auction.
@@latsnojokelee6434 Not true. The lien is paid to the Board when the homeowner sells the house, when ever that is.
There needs to be a class action lawsuit on every HOA
That's crazy. If you don't want to live in an HOA, then don't buy in one. Many people like them. I bought in a non-HOA because I don't like Communism.
The ONLY winner in class action law suits are the ATTORNEYS. They get ridiculous amounts of money and the people actually affected GET NOTHING.
That is why, any property with HOA is a flat NO for me.
There is good and bad, places with hoa that has single family houses has rules that you cant paint certain color, have abandoned cars, and other rules, and many times bad people, such as gangs, cant really operate there with all the rules and they get kicked out. A normal neighborhood without hoa will turn bad if some gang members moves in the neighborhood and your part of their turf. I know so since i had a neighbor where all hours their homies come by.
@@wl6020tell that to the homeless… ps the real gangsters are the politicians
@@wl6020 LOL, that was yrs ago issues...These HOAs especially this one have become the criminals....
@@wl6020thats just dumb
@@wl6020no dude its just bad. HOA is a mafia
HOAs should simply be banned nationwide. Collective trusts can be set up by neighbors to care for landscaping and other common amenities.
More like a collective, with volunteers to manage operations, not an HOA criminal cartel raising their salaries for doing nothing.
The news anchor looked down she probably llives there lol
HOAs are fine as long as they are not predatory.
people voluntarily enjoin themselves, so no "ban" on HOAs. you know what they say, there's a sucker born every minute!
That's not going to work hippie
I’ve lived in a hoa community once never again. I move from a hoa community 28 years ago and it was the best move I’ve ever made.
So band together and vote to dissolve the HOA. Not remove members, not lower the fee. Get rid of it.
Hoa won't be voted out if they don't start the voting
@@sergiofonseca2285 I'd hold a private meeting of just the residents, not the board, and take a vote that way, maintaining all the other elements of parliamentary procedure that the board uses. Then use that in court to sue the board members individually, citing their refusal to hold a vote as the reason for the assembly of the masses. I'm sure there's something a good shyster lawyer can use, there, to make that legally binding.
Really, HOA's should just be outlawed, or deprived by law of their ability to penalize residents - make it more like an opt-in private club. Buy a house, voluntarily join or not join. Bar them from sending you more than one offer per calendar year. Skip a month of payments, get two notices in the US Mail, one posted at your door. Refuse to pay and you're just removed from the HOA, no other penalty. Bar them from enforcing any standards higher than those of the city/county/state for residential beautification and decoration. Make the streets public, not private. Bar them from issuing fines. Bar them from taking homes (which is really just theft under a veil of legality). Force them to have a full election every 2-3 years - open to any adult resident of the HOA, not just property owners. Set term limits until the pool of available residents is depleted to about half.
In addition to restricting their functions by law, make the HOA itself seem like a good thing. Members get access to real amenities, like pools and free high quality laundry machines, meeting halls for parties, parking facilities protected by armed security, parking-to-door assistance via golf cart and employee (both previous points in addition to garages), protected package delivery, things like that. Make the HOA beneficial to the resident, take away its fangs, all at a reasonable rate, and see how they come.
Not all declarations allow for the dissolution of the association. Need to abide by the CCR. If they allow it, you're spot on!
Dissolve your HOA, the community needs to pinch in on a vicious attorney(s) who are relentless. Make sure there are at 3 auditors, and present the vanity of the individuals on the board, to the civil jurors, because that’s where you’ll end up, remember the board members greed is also going to be relentless, your taking away from there lavish vacations and overloaded SUV’s they spoil themselves with.
HOAs shouldn't be legal at all.
Getting people to pay insurance and maintenance on vehicles that don't exist? Sounds like a lawsuit to me.
Down right theft.. their nothing better than a bunch of white collar criminals.
@@fgerv Do you think insurance on a golf cart costs the same as a sedan?
@@ZargabaathHis insurance bill is probably 500 a month. 😂
They're committing fraud.
That money is going to someone's bank account
Request all of the financial documents
Yeah cause just like in every Corrupt company bored members of any kind use the funds to pay their own bills, dry cleaning, escort service, vacation, auto insurance on cars while using golf carts, clothes, buying gold, traveling to Germany or France for contracts for the HOA, I can't understand why would an HOA member from Virginia go to France in the spring for 2 weeks & what they doing and last but not least treat the treasury like their own personal bank with no intention of paying back.
i am so glad my HOA is run by people who live in my neighborhood. i pay $80 per year in HoA fees. all we use it for is to maintain the grass, and flowers at the neighborhood entrance, and keep the pond fountain running/clean. no horror stories here thankfully.
Mine is decent but needs to be better. I attended to one yesterday and I got appointed to event leader 😅. I was the only one who showed up and people complain yet they don’t attend. HOa was telling me we can’t make a difference in the community with only 4 people and people need to attend meeting, we need them to make decisions together
@@jonathanm5733 kinda weird to ask someone to doxx themselves
I thought they were all run by the people living in that specific neighborhood. Is that not the case? I've never been in a HOA neighborhood.
My wife and I purchased our first home three years ago. Stories like this are why we instantly said no to any HOA neighborhoods.
Good call, you have chosen wisely
HOA's suck, but this HOA is just responding to the changing racial demographics of the neighborhood.
I agree with you. I to live in an HOA free home.
AGREED.
Never live anywhere that you must pay for a property overlord. Be Smart, always read the fine print, learn from others mistakes, dont be the sucker that makes them. 😅😅
HOA are absolutely worthless.
The fact that they are constantly raising fees is outrageous and ridiculous.
@@dave655467basically you have a managerial group to run a club that tells you to keep up the work on your house. if you don't do what they say they charge you money and more and more and more money. they make you feel like your house is just a big apartment and they're the manager. they don't even live near you they have it as their day job to sit around and pass by your house and if the grass is too long or a tree is deemed ugly or your paint is fading they tell you fix it or else and you pay them and you pay to fix it. it's awful
@@dave655467 worse than taxes
no more like the new civil infraction BS that Nevada has now.....
Man I thought you guys didn't have to deal with this kind of bureaucratic crap in Florida 🍊
@@younginsane90ha no.. Florida is way different than conservatives like to make it out to be. Imagine “Florida man” but he’s everywhere 😂
For this reason, I would never purchase a house that has a HOA fee !
And yet, none of them are talking about voting the HOA out of the neighborhood.
they did talked about special meeting to replace board members, but none them want to get rip of HOA. OR maybe it's illegal or there is no way to get rip of HOA. lol
if there is only one member of the HOA, can you still get rid of them?
In many communities you need permissions from a certain percentage of the banks holding the mortgages to get rid of a standing HOA. Banks see HOAs as a positive to help hold the value of the property. In my own HOA community, the bylaws are written that we need 90% of the BANKS to agree to even change the bylaws. Some of these HOAs were created in the 60s and 70s and have very backwards bylaws.
@@szm99 so basically no
Well you see the amenities they get
They need to hire lawyers and investigate the accounting of the HOA
Auditors*
The lawyers are part of the problem. Financial audits are required.
@@austinbevis4266 Both Auditors and Lawyers! (Odds are the Board "has their hand in the till"!! And it will take a Lawyer or a few Lawyers to make the Board allow the Auditors to see the Books!!!
Just like a super timeshare scam ! 😮 When you have an HOA , it's another layer of communism that takes your hard earned money !
@@timmeinschein9007: Of course, the dictators have their hands in the till. It's easy money.
You’d have to be insane to purchase a home where an HOA is in place. It’s definitely an infringement on your freedom.
Sadly most the nicer homes in FL are in HOAs. You can't avoid them. You just gotta read the HOA rules/regulations/fees and pick the least poisonous.
You're parents probably living right now with HOA board membership
Well they aren't always an issue. The key is meeting the neighbors before you buy to get an idea of who else lives there and what they say abt it. In my neighborhood we have a great HOA and pretty tight nit community. Board members are very fair and we even have a lawyer present at most meetings to ensure residents know their rights and noone abuses things. There's only 2 ppl that have a problem with it and they're the kinds of ppl that ruin the neighborhood for everyone else. For example don't pay dues but still expect to have pool access or get yard waste pick up that such dues pay for and cause a huge disturbance abt it or park on the street blocking emergency vehicles or keep a bunch of trash and fire hazards in their yard causing neighboring homes to almost catch fire twice. HOAs can be a great tool to keep your community safe and happy but they *are* prone to abuse which sucks.
I guessed you don't live in a city? The very few none HOA properties In Houston are extremely expensive. 500k on the roads by my house , it floods and the house is garbage but it sold less than a month. Sold a Mexican family that owns a landscaping business for them they have no choice they need to park there trailers and equipment.
@@jakehero95 And if possible keep your eyes on the Treasurer.
HOA ,…..right there is the problem…….HOA are absolutely awful….Never never NEVER!!!!
Never buy a property controled by a HOA. Totally foolish.
There was a guy in an HOA neighborhood here that had been living there for longer than the HOA had been around, and he refused to be a part of the HOA and the main board members HATED him for it. They installed a gate system on the road leading into the neighborhood, and since he wasnt paying any dues they refused to give him a code so he couldnt gain access to his own property. These people are criminals, and need to be held responsible.
Damn
One tried that in my area. Judge told them code to the gate, or cut him a private road.
Sounds like the new movie with Tom hanks
I hope he takes these greedy criminals to court. I'm sure he'll win.
Sue. A lawsuit is good. He is going to get a large payout.
Why anyone would subject themselves to living in an HOA community is beyond me.
Unfortunately in the urban and suburban areas that's all they seem to be building anymore.
AMEN
I would sooner live in an RV in Walmart parking
At this point the only people moving into an HOA are the people who always think they are the smartest in the conversation.
Called Stupid people..😅
HOA need to be abolished .. everything I see and hear about HOA’s all over America makes them tbh useless
Immediate ban on HOA, these criminals need to be outlawed and arrested where needed.
NEVER move into a neighborhood with an HOA. They are a nightmare. Residents are treated like sharecroppers. You can start out with a decent set of board members, then suddenly a couple of them retire or quit and their replacements are fascist powergrabbers. I have had multiple friends who have sold at a loss just to get out from under their HOA. Spare yourself the pain and just avoid them.
Even worse when an HOA is newly established after you've already been living in that neighborhood for years. It goes from zero to fascism with the stroke of a pen.
Fascist? no no no, communist.
I agree but sadly anymore unless you buy in an older part of your town or city or live outside of town it is damn near impossible to buy a house in without having to deal with one in a lot of places
And as a someone who works in Foreclosure they will take your home if you don’t follow the rules. Sometimes before they take your home for delinquency.
NEVER MOVE TO FLORIDA
I’m glad the residents are sticking together to address the HOA’s corruption 👏🏾
Don't think it really did anything, not that I have seen a follow up story. But if the entire room got so angry the board called the cops on them.. you'd think they be able to vote the board out. Except I highly doubt the system will allow them to do that.
Not HOA fault. No one forced this idiot to move in there. Why would you move into HOA knowing the rent may increase thru the years SMH. Simply pay or move out...
The community should ban together and hire an attorney if they have not already done so.
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@@TheDogGoesWoof69Cubans are white now. 😅
I googled but still can’t find it. What did it increase from? $300? $190?
What was the prior fee?
Agreed. That was an important point for the reporter to have obtained. Sheesh. Help us put it into perspective.
@@RobertTarmac Agreed. I pay nearly that and don't live in a place that looks as nice as that place did. I tried to Google it as well unsuccessfully. It's like they don't want you to know. For all we know it went up 10 bucks and they are complaining.
@@nooneyouknow5516defending HOAs... what a joke
@@capablanc I wasn't defending them.
@@capablanc Is there another way of funding communal projects in USA other the HOA?
Where Im at HOA (its called residents representative lit. here in Croatia) is mandatory for any building with 3 units or more. In order to collect money to maintain said building and its amenities (mostly elevators, lighting in communal areas, extra communal spaces, etc...). I pay 90 euros (around 100$ / mo) for my 90m2 apartment and find it ok. All problems in the building are fixed promptly and I live care free.
Btw - "normal" fee for apartments in around 50c / m2. Our building is rather small but has 2 elevators that cost pretty penny (worth it every cent tho), so fee is 1 euro / m2 of apartment.
This is nothing abnormal and almost noone complains.
Get together as a group and disban the HOA.
Corruption galore. Fire them all. Hire a lawyer if that would do any good! Financial statements need to be audited immediately.
Exactly!
My partner did this. She’s stuck with all these legal fees, none of the other residents were willing to pitch in. She’s a CPA and she found all kinds of problems with the books. There’s still no accountability. It’s exactly like dealing with the government. The criminals are thriving hard these days and criminal behavior is being rewarded.
These HOA members are going to learn, the very hard way, that you push people far enough they will snap. One with a termina diagnosis or simply old, alone and unfraid might be willing to inflict some direct consequences on these board members. And then what... Think road rage, except carried out on front lawns or drive ways!
Oh yeah! That's right fan the flames by hiring a lawyer. Exactly the thing they want you to do to really take whatever monies you have left. That would be like you going down to view the titanic in a tube of toothpaste. See how well that worked out didn't you.
Sometimes violence is what works
Currently selling my house with HOA I will never again in my life live in an HOA. They have WAY to much power over the house YOU pay for. Insanity how almost every neighborhood in the US willingly give power over to such a bs group. I learned my lesson. Never again
Agree with you 100%. I live in a HOA community which is not predatory if I compare it with others, but the same bs with so many restrictions over the house you pay. Thinking of buying a new home and already rule out a HOA community, never again just like you.
I think it went this way because the city doesn't have to pay for the road and sewer upkeep anymore. I think that's how we got this monstrosity. The city gets the same tax revenue without having to pay the upkeep because that's back on the neighborhood. Which sounds ok on paper, but the lack of oversight around elections (including prevention of a company with vested and clear financial interest from running the elections and meetings) is especially onerous. It's the lack of oversight that makes it so profitable, and the people that get fleeced are the homeowners many of which are young and (in my case at least) naïve that this type of racketeering (I do see it that way, it's protection money and extortion of the neighborhood members, plain and simple) could even be remotely legal.
Unfortunately all around is. It is just growing more visable. Smh.
Not my neighborhood we said hell no to a HOA for what! We are grown adults who know how to deal with all issues.
When we had young people speeding we fund raised and got speed bump problem solved.
HOA are a form of adult bullying.
HOA, Building Permits, Teachers Unions, Mandatory Insurance, the list goes on and on. US is not a free country
Violent crimes: shows a cracked window lol
Did the residents actually recall the Board members in September as they said they would?
The homeowners association could literally evict you from your own home that you are paying with your own money… it’s crazy that such a thing exists
That is a lie.
Not if you're armed.
@@TheBigBigSeanits true lmfao
It’s a good thing and a bad thing.
@@EnBarren just bad
These rate increases without any explanation, accountability or justification, are totally unacceptable.
Then vote out the board or move out. Its the same as a public town.
It's Florida. They have ground problems rain problems hurricane problems. That's cheap $350.00
Now do inflation.
@@HansOverlord
Do you have any evidence for your idiotic assertion?
@@respectamerica2382 would requesting documented regulation be too much ? from these the p-ons?
They just want to go up there and tell you that you're going to have to waste another $300 every month and it's the end of discussion.
Stuff like this is one of the many reasons why I choose to live a life in a rural area.
Either get rid of the HOA, or limit the HOA's authorities
HOAs are designed to make money and for you to be powerless against them. Their contracts are designed to keep them legally protected. The lesson here is to NOT buy into an HOA unless you’re ok with giving someone a blank check every month.
No wonder they are called HOoos.. 😆 money scrounging leeches
Lol, they want the HOA to sell their securities car. These people are wild. BTW HOAs offer amenities like security guards and plowing and grass cutting for communal areas like HOA owned dog parks, etc, services that probably attracted these people to the community, it’s all plainly in the HOA agreement. Buyers remorse, I guess.
@@bill-or-somthingbill4390 OK Karen, You obviously did not watch the video. If they are driving around in golf carts, why do they need to pay insurance on a car they do not use (for HOA business)?
@@bill-or-somthingbill4390HOA is a parasite that feeds on the working class blood
Recall the board and dissolve the association. There’s no need for any HOA.
Stop talking.
Right.
Beautiful idea.
So you didn’t watch the video?
Who’s going to handle the common areas and amenities?
@@neilkurzman4907close them down. A lot of neighborhoods don't have those things.
not living in an HOA can be much worse
These HOA'S are out of control!! 😡
Scams
Yes and it seems that they can get away with it.
These morons knew exactly what they were getting into when they signed up for a HOA.
HOAs have been doing this stuff for years, this is nothing new. My sympathy meter reads zero.
Their own fault for joining one.
@@rooster1012OK YOU NEVER OWN A HOME. From that comment😂😂😂😂 you are a failure to launch 😂😂😂
Abolish the HOA … who likes living in a neighborhood for someone else to tell you what to do with your own damn property!
Yes igree if a property is under a HOA a homeowner can't done anything in own property even paint, or park u own vehicle bcz is a nightmare
Why did they move in knowing there's a HOA? I would never buy into a HOA property. I'll cut my own grass and pull the weeds.
@mhaas281 most don't even do that for you...they tell you how many inches to mow it, how often to mow it, and they issue fines if you violate their policies.
@@TeslaBoy123 That's a lie.
@@mhaas281Newsflash DIMWIT. MAJORITY OF SUBURBS ARE HOA AND ALL NEWER HOUSES ARE HOA 😂😂😂😂😂😂 STAY BROKE
This is why I would never be part of an HOA.
I'll NEVER purchase a 🏡 with HOA. NEVER! 😡
It's past time for federal action. HOAs should be illegal, or at least tightly regulated. This is getting way out of hand.
nonsense. If you don’t like living somewhere with an HOA, don’t buy a house in that neighborhood.
@@rickchandler2570 They have too much control over too many homes leading to people having to choose between homelessness and "Blank". Just moving out of one's home is a costly venture that most citizens can't afford and these companies know it. These companies can't / won't lower prices because the people incharge are focused on making money regardless of how their decisions affect people across america.
jacksonkisling1684 is right its time for the government to step in and regulate them.
@@rickchandler2570 housing shouldn't be a business. It serves only the already well off at the expense of everyone else. And I think the poor are tired of working all the necessary jobs and not being paid enough to actually live well. Single nurses, sanitation and food workers should all be able to afford homes or no one deserves to have those people serving them. So many poor people deserve homes over blood sucking executives and elites that just move money around at the top and build nothing.
HOAs were created with ill intentions and the purpose they serve then is VERY different than the purpose they serve now however, the savagery their business practices, collecting of money, and the ability to potentially take your property. All of these things are/should be illegal and they should be held accountable. They should also have to report what they’re doing with peoples money, because some of these fees are very very high in some neighborhoods. Personally, I would NEVER move into a neighborhood where there’s an HOA. I’ve had my experience with them and I’m good.
Your ignorance is showing. Almost every urban home built in the last 50 years was developed with an HOA.
People are getting sick of the corruption, at all levels in their lives.
and yet they still vote Republican and for corporate Dems!
Definitely
Get ready because MORE is coming..
Never ever ever would I buy a home that is in a neighborhood with an HOA.
Have you EVER heard ANYONE say "I really like my HOA"? I haven't.
That's exactly why I made sure that when I purchased my house it wouldn't be in an HOA area.
American everything is money wtf people must be slave depressed I’m in my country I don’t pay for any of these stuff I own house thang god I’m in Saudis Arabia
Jesus this is crazy
I'd never own a home with an HOA. Never.
Best thing to do ever.
Same here...
We had the same problem with our HOA company, so I and few others ran for office, got the position and ordered an audit. 3 people in hoa office were embezzling funds.
If you count kickbacks for certain services like lawn or towing, I'm sure 75% of hoa have somebody skimming
@@Smokesuyou hit the nail right on the head,
1 a young lady's brother was the contracted company to landscape that was being paid twice the amount as the well known reputable companies. Multiple charges for trees and bush's being replanted when it never happened.
2 the other was an older man being paid to be an assessor ( WTF ) we didn't even know if he even existed.
3 was the security company were charging us for maned gated security when we didn't even have a gate office ( 3 security guards around the o'clock 24/7 service). Our gate is automatic via sensors iron gate.
Wow..... Such a surprise.
not surprising .... easy money for board members
@@pattiehernandez769 Amen
The yard looks decent.
I hope this blows up and people understand that it's not okay to be charged for literally nothing in return... We already have real debts going on, why should we fill these people's pockets especially when they don't do anything for the community at all
It's really telling that the homeowners agreed to be interviewed on camera but the HOA didn't
How so? If they interview a board member they can’t speak for the entire board.. also can’t speak on most board maters to none members of said HOA.
@@JBarnes917 who's asking them to speak for the entire board. Each board member gets a vote, they can speak for themselves. Your stmt is like saying a single person in Congress can't be interviewed because they can't speak for the entire Congress...that makes no sense
@@BlueInOrangeAgain if you want to ask the board a question you ask them at a meeting… they will not speak to the news. I am on an HOA board and we were even advised no to speak on Facebook with anything to do with the HOA for legal reasons. I’m not just blindly taking up for HOAs…. I actually hate them but that’s why I got involved in ours so I can dictate what goes on somewhat.
@@JBarnes917 So if you want to ask the board a question you ask them at a meeting where they'll then call the cops and play the victim. Okay, good to know.
@@gumby3057 when the group get hostile it’s for their safety… there are rules in place
I admire the home owners standing up to tyranny. I want to see more of it.
You did not see a homeowner stand up for themselves. All you saw was people getting their faces eaten by the Tigers Who Eat Faces party.
Lol you are free to choose to live in a tyrannical system. Don't complain if you sign a damn contract. I'm a libertarian.
It's not tyranny your are signing a contract and making a choice to live there.
@@harryko8699 Let me guess, you're a conservative?
They are not homeowners it's a HOA
The fact that you have a house cartel in the US is messed up
I've never had and never will have an HOA.
Dissolve your HOA NOW AND LIVE HAPPY.
NEVER buy a home in an HOA community!
Totally agree
Some people, depending on what city they live in, don't have a choice.
Isn't it strange that the home owner's association isn't accountable to the home owners?
Kinda like every aspect of U.S. government.
Not in America. The police and government are not accountable to the people it's kind of the theme of America.
@@SeliahK Yes, so it is.
"HOA" is "trickle down" mafia that hijacks the government and ruins everyoneeveryone's lives. It's huge reason young working families can't afford homes and the "housing market" is controlled by these syndicates. This rotten to the core nonsense needs put a stop to. And the "HOA" blames "the government" despite it hijacked state legislatures.
It most definitely is. We didn't like our board and kicked them out and took over.
Hah, my HOA raised our fees from $290 to $728 in the last 12 years. Seems my older neighbors refused to raise the rates for decades. So now with about an 80% turnover in homeowners now, they're trying to recoup the lost revenue from us. Never buy in an HOA. Even when you replace the board, eventually they become just like the previous boards, looking out for themselves, treating their fellow community members like renters, and listening to HOA lawyers instead of owners.
The real problem is builders only building HOA housing. Disgraceful!
I despise all hoas . Never again will I buy a house with one .
And your other options are? Buying a house? 1. Are there even any affordable ones available anymore? 2. If you do buy taxes and especially insurance for homes have dramatically increased so pretty much same as HOA fees. 3. Insurances are pulling out of the state and forcing people to pay the handful of overpriced insurances. I’m just saying the grass technically isn’t any more green on the other side so pretty much pick and choose your brown grass cause they’re both exactly the same.
@@Luisjusthere I've had HOA fees before and life is definitely better for me now that I own a regular single family home with no fees. The hikes and special assessments being charged every year were just too much!
@@MsCrissell and I’ve lived here in a complex where the HOA was stern but fair and have kept everything in tact while maintaining prices at an affordable level, reserves are great and we even managed to upgrade much without any assessments. I’m not putting down home owners because I also wouldn’t mind owning a house eventually but I am saying it’s not better nor worse it just depends on it.
@@Luisjusthere Farmers is pulling out of Florida. Hurricanes are very very costly. So insurance rates are going up. It's the cost of living in Florida.
@@wanaraz farmers pulled out of California as well and is said to pull out of other major cities soon. Walmart and other big and small owned companies pulling out of places like Chicago, NYC, again California and Portland. Again no place is better or worse it just depends on how it is for that certain individual in that certain area. A person can be fine even with all that going on in Chicago or Florida or California or a person who works remote at home can live in the least expensive tiny town of nowhere. Just sayin
It's impossible to fathom how someone would give a group of strangers so much power over their homes and their lives...with almost no recourse available whatsoever. Crazy.
Just shows how much some people let fear and greed ruin their lives and everyone else's lives. It's disgusting
They aint strangers are they?...Dont the board members have to be living there to?
@@Pete391That’s what it’s supposed to be. A group of neighbours banding together to improve their neiborhood.
Unfortunately, land developers these days make up the hoa. They reason that they own most of the land, and hence have the majority vote. Frackin loophole if you ask me. They appoint random people from across the country who don’t even have a stake in the neighbourhood to the hoa board.
You have no idea what you're talking about. Every HOA is different. I live in one and am very happy with the way mine is operated. And they are not strangers, we all know each other.
@@Pete391no they just have to own property in the community. Some Hoa have different rules but almost all will allow someone to be voted on the board even if they live off site but still own the home.
Nothing good has ever come from joining an HOA. I was threatened with legal action if I did not join the HOA in my hood. But I unleashed a pitt bull lawyer on them and was grandfathered out. Meaning I have lived here for 40 years and never once needed an HOA for anything. Instead of fighting my guy in court they backed off.
Most states have laws requiring HOAs because the local governments don't want the responsibility of regulating residential developments. However, HOAs aren't regulated properly to prevent abuses. People need to make sure they vote for the proper HOA Board Members instead of just taking the HOA Board members' words. Attend your HOA meetings if you want to make sure nothing irregular is being done behind your backs.
So proud of this community getting together and fighting the HOA.
Never, never, never buy a home under a HOA! Power to the people!
But majority of house in the city has hoa
Most municipalities have similar absurd rules that HOAs have
Love my HOA. We have low crime, amazing enmities, high property value, and high quality of life.
@@TheBigBigSean for now haha, these neighborhoods do not last too long
@@huyquoctran2088 then don't live in the city
Same problem everywhere in the world.
Say NO to HOAs !
The concept of an HOA is ridiculous. You buy a house just for a group of people to tell you what you can and can't do with it in a country where you can do anything with it as long as it's not insurance fraud or arson. What are they going to do if you don't pay them? Illegally kick you off a property that you own?
Some people are masochists that enjoy the taste of boot in their mouths, and the crack of the whip at their aft quarters, thinking the badge they wear says "PRIVILEGE" instead of "SLAVE."
So I know friends who live with HOA...they did it because they want the neighborhood to be controlled living...no junk cars, or homeless or weeds growing...they want PLEASANTVILLE. THATS COOL. I get it but the price of things go up. Trash co raises their fee...your fee goes up. Landscapers fee goes up...your fee goes up. And NO ONE CAN PROTECT EVERY CAR OR HOME WITH SECURITY. That's on the home owner. I mean every guest of all these tenants is NOT AN ANGEL
And yes HOA's will evict you. It's a hard contract to sign when you do it 😮😮😮
they'll get the banks,courts to evict you off your own property; yes.
@@lisalee2885 if you are right this is awful.
When I bought my first house, my realtor said to my wife and I, “whatever you do, never buy a house in an HOA community”, and she explained to us the fees and rules and penalties etc. etc…, she was great, my wife and I still have our first home, we love it here 😊
Good realtor right there , is she in Orange County CA by any chance ? Not that I can afford anything right now but hopefully for later ….
I have a good example, my friend owns a small 900 sqft condo in a 4 plex. Apparently their dues were mismanaged for years and now they pay about 600 per month in dues. They tried to sell for YEARS and no one would buy cause this place the dues should never go over $150 a month. I had a small condo with dues and they also went up every year but nothing like this.
I bet you voted 4 sniffden
Sue your hoa in court demand transparency
350$ thats crazy. Must have been pocketing money
NEVER BUY PROPERTY WITH HOA ATTACHED... NEVER...IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE!
DON'T DO IT...LOOK ELSEWHERE
They have a monopoly on it. They needs to be abolished.
Bloody right. If I want to walk naked in my backyard I will. I don't need those HOA people peeking on me and giving me a fine.
HOAs are out of control. Board members are doing whatever they please and lining their pockets. Those residents need to hire an attorney ASAP.
Check your local and state laws. If they are not abiding by those get an attorney. It does work.
They signed an agreement.
@@popweaselcrunch 😂😂😂
Contract my dude they are fkd
@@thebakery3996 never give up hope
@@popweaselcrunch When the mob comes to your business to sell "PROTECTION", you "sign the agreement". or try and relocate. That is how extortion rackets work. MANDATORY means you cannot agree NOT TO SIGN. This is why laws need to be passed to protect homeowners. Currently the laws are there to protect the thugs who actually run the HOAs.
idk why anyone would want to live in an HOA in the 1st place 🤦♀️
HOA is legal racket.
There was an HOA president and 3 of her goons that were arrested recently here in S.Florida. Accused of stealing millions of dollars that were supposed to be for maintenance and using it for themselves. Exact same situation, starting with extreme fee increases from outta nowhere.
This is happening everywhere HOAs exist. Corruption, racially based prejudices, in cahoots with Tow companies for kickbacks.
@@AdamChandler-kr5ijthe HOA he was talking about was scamming ppl. Don't be a boot licker and think for yourself.
@@AdamChandler-kr5ij Look up Hammocks HOA arrested for fraud it's literally the first result. It's a well-known case here in South Florida. I think you're the one that doesn't know what they're talking about, my friend.
@@AdamChandler-kr5ijdude it's not a $350 hoa fee. It's a $350 additional fee added on to the first $300 additional fee from earlier in the year. The original fee was $400. So that's over $1,000 dollars now.
@@JulieThomas-fj4pothat’s how they be tricking people
HOA’s are a ripoff. You don’t own your home or your property.
Did you look at the video of the complex? They’re not single family homes.
So, in this case, you are very correct.
@@neilkurzman4907you can own the real estate, but not the property. As dumb as it is, people choose to move in anyway.
@@jasonconrad7664
I live in a condominium. I don’t own the property. Some people don’t seem to understand that. I also don’t owned the roof I do on the windows and the door.
True
@@jasonjason9866 EXACTLY!!!
I feel sorry for the HOA home owners. Never forget these events when you move out and into another home. Choose wisely and if I were you I would never buy into an HOA ever again. I am so happy that I never owned a home of my own now!!!
Why in the world would you even join an HOA?
I am legitimately concerned about buying a home in this day and age. The thought of having my Home that I BOUGHT being controlled is a nightmare.
Just don't buy where there is an HOA; pretty simple. If you have a mortgage, the bank is controlling you and the municipality is controlling you regarding property taxes.
@@virginiamoss7045not that common to find a home without HOA. Most people simply want to be able to tell their neighbors how to live to keep property values growing
@@yucol5661 Understandable, but not for everyone; I keep a very acceptable house and home, more so than most people, but I still don't want to have to pay a monthly fee. I don't want amenities; I have no use for them. Why should I pay? If my house needs a new roof, I'll decide when to have it done and how much it will cost, not anyone else. Most older homes are not under an HOA so be happy with one of them. Or do like I did and locate further out from cities, buy land and build a custom house. All the houses around me are around 5 acres each due to the need for septic fields. It's a different circumstance, but the neighbors are all middle to upper class and keep their houses up nicely without coercion.
Just don't look at residences that have a HOA or a Condominium Association/Board. If you're using a real estate agent, they should have asked what you want in a property.
You can’t afford it don’t buy it
HOA = hand over authority
Do not grant authority over your property to others.
@@jamessmith-ie7ymI can tell you have no friends
@@jamessmith-ie7ym are you aware you don't have to be a douchebag your whole life?
How does my comment equal "inherit land" in your simple mind?
I've been looking for the right acronym for these housing fascist. You got it right.🤣
Whats really fucked, is there are some ares that don't give you the option; the second you move in, you're part of it.
@@jamessmith-ie7ymNo, there are many lot developers who develop lots and sell them to you. You have a third party home builder. None of the houses look identical and there are no HOA fees.
HOA is embezzling their money.
The community needs to vote the board out
I just bought a house in Florida. One of my main criteria was NO HOA.
hope this (challenging the HOA) happens more and more and with more success. HOAs are getting ridiculous
Owned by left and right hand that u vote for
Just like the child grooming school boards who operate as fascist government snitches, the HOA calls in the pigga wiggas to save them. How dare people ask what they're paying for.
Try being a brown single woman ( widow) in a community run by Mormons in Idaho. Omg horrible. I would be out tomorrow if i had a place to go to. But houses are so $$$$$$ we can't afford to move. We ( my sister & I) hate it here. She is law enforcement & had the thin blue line flag up after one had been killed & they thought it was something to do with the BLM !! Yea just f****** inbred stupid people under the banner of Mormons!
Wrong is wrong irregardless of the politician in office. People have the right to protest injustices. Starbucks, Amazon, screen writers, UPS, etc...the proper response to an outrage is to be outraged
@@yankcaptain3942 no one forced you to join a hoa
HOA’s have gone out of control and need to be regulated. They have started to WAY overstep their boundaries. This is bogus; they are supposed to be FOR the community.
not regulated, disbanded.
Can you say corrupt and deep pockets.
Then don’t buy a house 😂
@@HypeBeast764the arrogance
@@HypeBeast764 You mean don't buy a house with an HOA. But that does nothing to free the people who moved into communities thinking the HOA was normal, only to get harassed, charged fees, and given ever increasing monthly fees. Once you are in one that goes bad, you are stuck because the high fees and mismanagement make it impossible to sell your house. Unlike all the silly things crazy people claim will lower housing values, an HOA absolutely lowers property values. That HOA payment directly decreases what people can pay towards a mortgage, so they must pay less for the house.
The proper solution is to disband the HOA. They are not needed at all. There is nothing an HOA does that requires an HOA. HOAs were created by builders who want tight control of the community while they are still building. The people who live there are absolutely stupid for not dissolving it as soon as the builder hands control back to the community. The law should ban builders from creating HOAs to control people who move in while other lots are still being built. It is absurd that these were ever allowed. It started as a way for builders to force early move-ins to fund the common landscaping and then just grew out of control from there.
Living in a low income appointment in Orlando, FL, they just increased the rent $200. Plus, I'm in the middle of my contract. Any help would be welcomed.
Need to sue the HOA.
Someone needs to challenge HOA constitutionality and bring the case to Supreme Court!
HOAs don't just happen out of thin air and fall upon a neighborhood. The people who build the place and buy the homes form them. And I think cases have been taken to courts before and they get thrown out of lower courts because there is no legal reason to ban them.
That would fix the problem in about thirty years.
Lol
Moved into a HOA community and wants private community pools, private security, private play grounds, gated entries.
Then says wants to disband HOAs, then replace it with what another HOA or tax money? This Supreme Court would hear it and only make it unconstitutional. I want to see how stupid folks like you are going to deal with the down stream effects
Lol, the Supreme Court is a joke right now.
They need to dissolve the HOA.
In glacial sulfuric acid.
or uh, just dont move into one to begin with
@@zachary_attackeryunless you're a multi-millionaire, housing is not a market where you can pick and choose exactly what you want at all times. it's borderline impossible to buy a home now that isn't part of an HOA
@@charlot6590 That's bulls*t. How many neighborhoods full of houses from the early 90s, 80s, 70s are ALL OVER the place? Those places aren't in HOAs. HOA's only exist in newer communities where every single house is the same. You clearly don't own a home and haven't even attempted to buy one. I just bought a 2 story house on 9 acres of land for $200,000. My mortgage payment is $600 a month. There's about 100 other houses on my street and there's no HOA
Meeting escalated---wow. I think she means TENSION ESCALATED
Stop living in a HOA
The problem is housing availability. The amount of houses for sale outside of HOA neighborhoods is very limited.
I'm a first time homeowner and didn't know any better regarding HOAs. We live and we learn. The market was very competitive at the time when I bought my home and I really had to move out of my old place. Whenever I sell and buy another, it will NOT be in an HOA community.
A young couple moved into my neighborhood a couple of years ago and tried to start an HOA. Many of the houses here were built before 1970 and some of my neighbors have lived here for decades. The HOA thing didn't go over well at all, and the couple couldn't understand why no one wanted it. They'd never lived in a neighborhood that didn't have one and apparently thought everyone would welcome it. Nope. They only lived here about a year.
Good , great to hear that they left😂
Good. Liberal weenies that hated doing things for themselves and were more than happy to surrender personal liberty.
They should have egged them out of there.
Living happely ever after
@@evielknievel4972 they got a lot of doors slammed on them, including mine.