Florida man finds he’s not a legal citizen 60 years after moving to the U.S.
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- čas přidán 7. 05. 2024
- Outside Jimmy Klass’s mobile home in Clearwater, symbols of American pride hang not just front and center but also on the side and back of his home. America is, after all, the only home this 66-year-old has ever known. “I moved to the US in 1959. I’ve been here for 64 years,” he recently told us. But after more than half a century in the U.S., where he’s lived, worked, gone to school, got married, had kids, paid his taxes, and even voted, Klass said in 2020 he discovered he’s not a U.S. citizen.
Apply for a refund... All my taxes, please return them.
Yes, absolutely!!
with interest!
You still pay taxes when you’re in the US as a permanent resident and you don’t get retirement😊
It doesn't work like that.
@@jacksalem6472 Permanent Residents do get retirement dumb ass
He was american when he was paying, time to collect "No you are not." Sound like a scam to me
Yep...absolutely
ask for free room, food, prepaid debt card, and airfare all the other illegals get it.
Not quite a scam. Non citizens living in the US pay social security taxes. My spouse moved to the US and not a citizen and still have to pay all the same taxes
Someone commented that he has a passport from another country.
This truly shows how screwed up the U.S. really is.
Refund this mans paid taxes as a whole. Shame on US!
plus 8% interests like the IRS do when you miss your tax payment.
So you want to give all illegals Social Security tax refunds? Or all of their taxes. Because a lot of them pay if you do contact your representative because there’s no law that allows the government to do that.
This illegal man stole jobs from Americans…no refund for him.
lol, if you are not a citizen, and are working in the U.S…you still pay taxes. Don’t be so eager to display your ignorance.
Or deport him so that we don't have to pay for another illegal alien.
This is absurd! 60+ years of living on US soil, serving his country and paying taxes, and this is how they repay him? Stupid system….
Equal Law for everyone.
There are hundreds of thousands who actually have lost limbs fighting for the USA and are still not considered eligible to be US citizen. No special favor to him just because he is white.
Back of the line he needs to go, and wait for his turn.
He signed up. He didn’t serve
All by design
He should have checked himself.
"Welcome to America. The land of Fee"
I like that. Mind if I borrow it?
Ah yes, America is the freest place in the world. Just ask anyone whose never left the country 😅
And home of the Knave.
Land that was stolen you mean.
@@myanimeroom9350miNd iF I BoRroW iT?🤓🤓🤓
Either pay him social security or give him all his money back.
No because the silly man lived 60 years using our roads just like you and I pay. Being white does not give him a pass.
with interest compounded daily
He must apply to derived citizenship and then retroactively restore all the benefits he’s entitled to
His father should’ve registered him at American embassy in Canada and made the American passport for him.
Instead, he probably brought him from Canada either with a Canadian passport or birth certificate.
The GOVERNMENT ALREADY SPENT HIS MONEY ON XMAS BONOUSES AND SENT IT TO OTHER COUNTRIES TO HELP THEM INSTEAD
Id much rather have the money than social security. If i invested all the money ive paid into ssi, that ill never get, id be much better off.
If his dad was American, why would he have to prove his dad lived in the US for 10 years before he was born? I don't get it
Technically, you only qualify for citizenship by descent if one parent lived in the country for a certain period, even if the parent is a citizen. They seem to be operating under the old law, given the 10-year requirement. However, the current physical presence requirements are as follows:
- The parent has been physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for at least 5 years.
- The parent met this physical presence requirement for at least 2 years after reaching 14 years of age.
@@XxMobileWizXxbut he said his father was born and raised in New York.
@@XxMobileWizXx Wasn't aware of these. Are these new? I'm a dual citizen, so for me this would mean if I have a kid after living abroad - even IF that kid were born in the USA - the kid will not receive US citizenship?
@@Longknife Yes your child would be a citizen because anyone born in the borders of the USA gets citizenship at birth even if the parents are in the country illegally. What I was saying is for children born abroad outside the USA to an American parent.
I lived in US for 7 years, I had drivers license ane social security, but I wasn't US citizen. Having those does not mean you are a citizen. How he voted for 40 years is beyond me. That says alot about American election results.
rigged is called.
But if you have a social security card and live here paying taxes you should be a citizen.
@@anthonyhernandez6230 nope. Even H1B workers from India have social security which they know from beginning is a wated tax they are paying.
BS. He’s legal. The border crossers are illegal.
it says a lot about how america is held together with popscicle sticks and paper clips. actually scary how incompetent every single government entity is. there had to be MANY mistakes in succession for this to occur for so long
Really ? He had a SS card. Paid taxes. Served our country.
Having social security doesn’t make you a citizen, even permanent residents (green card holders) get those.
He’s not the only one in this situation. Plenty of others who serve in the military, pay taxes, and have a SS card are not citizens.
And yet for purposes of Social Security, he’s in an illegal alien
DEPORT!
You're just as confused as the guy in the video...
The America system loves to take your money but doesn't like to give it back.
The American dream is the American scam
Story of the ROWs life concerning these Theives to be honest.
I mean, it’s why they were sent over the Atlantic to begin with…
.....lol name a system, that prefers spending, then making money!
Wrong … it gives to the illegal immigrants.
I live in Canada. Trust me, it ain't just the American system.
This is outrageous. They issued him all his documents and let him work until he was an old man then gives him the middle finger. Can’t say I’m surprised. This system is so wicked and the people in charge are worse. Imagine how they treated the native peoples and the slaves that they brought here for hundreds of years before they were even considered humans. Not to mention how they neglect our veterans. Anyway social security will run out of money in 10 years so they will scrape wherever to try and save it.
You realize the people who processed his social security number 50+ years ago are not even there anymore, right? This is not because of people in the government being wicked or evil. It's just a system that needs fixing through legislation in a humane and integral way.
Just make sure you’re eligible to retire within in the next 10 years because SS is slated to run out of funds after that we are all going to end up like the old man in this story. That’s not a probability that is facts. Do your readers, the US is 35 trillion dollars in debt and it will take 5 generations to pay that back. There has never been a civilization since the beginning of time that has ever come out of any debt as great. Do your research and then tell me if the system and leaders are not wicked
Usa went from American Dream to American Nightmare literally
It's def not perfect, but it is still a desired destination for many.
It always was but the internet has exposed the great Satan for what it truly is.
Look through American history you’ll see it has been like this since day one.
No people don’t read the laws of the land and think they can do whatever they want
@@user-bf2lq1lf4v no more
Sounds like someone found a loophole to not give him money.
One would call that doing your job. Blame the bozos that let him slip through the cracks.
@@zeroturn7091Nah blame the bozos stealing from him now.
“But bureaucracy rules!” is a poor excuse for allowing a government to steal a man’s hard earned retirement.
yes and that someone is getting a performance bonus
@@zeroturn7091he should blame himself.
Or someone found a loophole to not have him deported
“He even voted?” Y’all hear that?!?!?
Illegally it seems.
Illegal immigrant and illegal voting. Why is he not deported yet?
@@xwarped83 He didn't know that at the time.
Murika
@@Stephie2007ignorance of the law is no excuse. He's committed dozens of Acts of voting fraud.
He doesnt need to prove his father was a resident for ten years prior to his birth. Citizenship always passes to one generation. His father’s birth in NY is all he needs.
It would be different if his father was born outside the USA
No, not different, citizenship don't have different ranks like that, the only exception being running for US presidency! I don't know about back in his father's day if it was a thing, but nowadays, if you're ALDREADY a citizen, NATURAL or NATURALIZED citizen, then your BABY born outside of the US AFTER citizenship acquisition is AUTOMATICALLY a CITIZEN! This case is a no brainer, coz his dad was born and raised in the US!
He even got a CCW permit from NJ… which is harder to get than a Top Secret clearance!
This is a real slap in the face and an insult to the uniforms he wore in service to the US.
He's just another immigrant, get him back to his country 😂😂
He wore it with fraudulent documents. We are not looking at this stuff on an individual case by case. If you are here illegally, you gotta go
@@Brandon-qr2orLike how you're here illegally after committing genocide on the natives? Sounds like trespassing, battery, felony theft, grand larsony, 1st degree murder, false imprisonment, etc.
@@Brandon-qr2or that "illegal" vet as you call him, is more American than you will ever be.
He got caught 😂
They took your money. If they won't consider you a "citizen", take them to court for a REFUND!!!
Yeah Right!!
Taking us immigritation to court doesn't hurt their pockets sadly. They get no penalties.
You don’t have to be a citizen to pay taxes.
@xwarped83 he paid Ss and retirement fund also. Not just taxes
@@chuongnguyen5068 you also don’t have to be a citizen to pay into those things. You can get a SS number as a permanent resident. As far as a retirement fund, that could be thru his employer, he can collect that but can’t collect SS until he fixes his immigration status. Any other bright ideas?
So, he's been voting, joined the military, paid his taxes and now it's an issue. Really? He should be given a total refund for all the taxes he has paid, that's terrible.
It seems to be an universal thing that whenever your money is coming out of your pocket, you have zero problems anywhere in the world, but when is time to get paid, there’s always an issue everywhere… Amazing…
IRS takes money out of your account fast, when it’s time to get your refund it takes months.
How was he not legal citizen if he voted? And pay taxes
Sounds like he’s been getting the benefit of the doubt his whole life (likely due to skin tone, if we’re being honest).
Foreigners don’t need to pay taxes?
His father was an American. That automatically makes him a U.S. citizen.
@@tiffanylamp100 That logic wasn't acceptable for Barrack Obama. What is the difference?
@@tiffanylamp100 specific paperwork has to be filed; a Consular Report of Birth Abroad, within 300 days of the birth, I believe. It's not automatic. There are other requirements involved, including, as mentioned in the video, that the parent with citizenship has to reside in the US or it's territories for a specific period of time prior to taking residence in another country.
You don't need to be a US citizen to collect Social Security benefits, but you must be a legal resident.
But you can be undocumented and still have to pay Social Security taxes-even though you are ineligible to collect benefits.
That is a complete lie. Illegal immigrants get no social security benefits but still have to pay all the taxes US citizens have to pay, being a legal resident also doesn’t allow you to get benefits you must be a citizen or you get nothing from the federal government.
😂so he’s not even a permanent resident?
You also have to have paid into it. You don’t get to just be like “Hello, I’m a recovering crackhead and this is my r-tarded sister I take care of. I’d like some welfare please” and just get it.
His father is a US Citizen. Therefore he is US citizen by one of the parents.
They were more than willing to accept money from him without being a citizen but when he asked for money back they became greedy.
Yeah bud that is what happens to illegals all the time, they get an ITIN and pay taxes, social security medicare all that stuff and sometimes they won't ever see a social security check.
"sometimes they won't ever see a social security check" they shouldn't lol @@Alan-wj5zc
Its crazy how many people think Immigrants dont pay taxes
If he were Mexican I wonder if people would still feel sympathy.
That's what Im saying
Probably not unless one of his parents is american
I think people still would. He gave his everything to the US.
Lol, I would like to hope so.
I wonder what the Native Americans think about this 😂
How many Latino adults are in his same shoes but are being sent to countries they've never stepped foot in since being infants?
Potatoes and gold bar comparison - your Latinos are not American at birth, this dude is
Sadly true. Why are we spending money and time on this old man when theres tens of millions of Spanish speaking ignorant low skilled illegals
Right!? This man should be lucky he’s not getting deported.
Ahhh yes, first comment I see bringing race into this. Why don’t you go actually do a research paper on what you’re saying and then show me and maybe I’ll take your comment seriously.
The only reason he hasn’t been deported is bc of his color
Crazy how people's opinions change if the person is white..
He should demand reparations.
@@brianh7605 you're a dip shit we're talking about people brought as children from other countries in the recent past, not descendents of enslaved people who have been systematically discriminated against. Chupamela
lol its not crazy.. its just society. brown people will have their own reservations against darker shade brown people.. white people also don't like other white people, like how many European nations DO NOT get along at all. Germans are disliked by other Europeans, South African whites are disliked by UK whites. Black south africans are xenophobic. genocide in rawanda.. . .etc etc etc. humans do not like each other and thats a known fact. so it's not crazy how the opinion changes with the skin colour. it's just life, it's earth.
There's a big difference between this case and Mexicans who came here illegally. His dad is an American citizen which should make him one two, plus he was cleared for social security and military service. If you can't be honest enough to recognize the difference have nothing to do with color than you're not a very bright person.
Exactly!
Give that man his social security! This is nonsense.
His father was American and he lived all of his lifetime believing he was a US citizen. Why would he question it? Perhaps his parents weren’t aware of the technicalities of his citizenship status either. Maybe the father assumed since he was American and returning to America to live permanently, that was enough. He lived as an American, he paid taxes, he is an American!!! They should just give him his citizenship which he certainly has earned. They want to give away citizenships to illegal immigrants that are willing to serve in us military but they won’t give this man a citizenship? Unbelievable!!!!!
I agree with you. However, he knows he was born in Canada and he has a Canadian passport. It’s strange that it never once occurred to him in his adult life that he doesn’t have a Green Card or American Passport.
Nothing personal, but he is an illegal immigrant.
That's that crooked system.
They are insane
Illegal is illegal. He illegally voted for harsh immigrations laws so he should be subjected to them.
He should be charged with voter fraud, serve his sentence then be deported after release.
Law and order for thee, but not the GOP!
His father never took him to a US embassy in Canada to register his birth to a US citizen or never filed a petition for him to become a US permanent resident. That is why he is in this dilemma. Knowledge, process and procedures are very important when a child is born abroad in order to obtain US citizenship.
Regardless of whether he’s a citizen or not, he’s still eligible for those benefits
Tell that to illegal migrants who paid SS and can’t get it.
No he's not because you say so? He's already broken the biggest law being here illegally. He's not getting a pass just because he's white. It's his problem he thought he was legal not anybody else's. He needs to move on and leave.
Only U.S. citizen's can get social security. You can google it.
He's not actually eligible because you need to be a legal resident to collect social security. That's the whole issue.
@@jared9643 that is not true. It seems like he may be Canadian. There is a treaty in place. Even when he moves back to Canada, he can collect Social Security if he has enough credits which he seems to have.
It's his father's fault, he should have had registered his son at the US embassy in Canada proving he had lived in the USA at least for 10 years previous to his son birth! The embassy would had given him a CONSULAR REPORT OF BIRTH ABROAD! I know that because I just had 2 daughter, one in Honduras and one in Brazil, I showed up to the embassy with my school records, my tax returns, sss and my ENTRY and exit records from border patrol!
It not his fault if he never knew and it only really started to affect him when he turned 60
@@kingj6891 I never said it was his fault, I said it was his FATHER'S fault!
u better go back where you u belong
no see that would shift blame to the entitled foreigners highlighting this is a problem for decades of them lying to their kids for about their legal status and not the US being mean for no reason
@@kingj6891doesn’t matter if it’s his fault or not, illegal is illegal; he should be deported asap.
Holding a 2-year-old responsible is absolutely ridiculous
Some rules can sometimes sound stupid. He was American enough for you to collect his taxes but after residing in the US for over 60yrs and served the country, he isn't a legal resident enough to collect benefits.... Someone please make it make sense 😓
working exacly as intended there are many imigrants that spend there entire life in the US and get deported to a country they don't even speak the language of because we don't care about the taxes they payed for décades we just don't like how they look
At least the taxes part makes sense. If you live and work here, you pay taxes here. Doesn’t matter if you’re a citizen or not. After all, you are still using the roads, police, etc. that taxes pay for.
Americas a Ponzi scheme that primarily benefits its native born whites, descendants of prisoners and slave owners that wanted more power than England would give them…
Makes sense to you yet?
Thats bullshit he literally paying for those benefits for years and not just that he serve as police and military @@Sashazur
Meanwhile Paco jumps the fence and gets all your tax dollars
This is not a senate issue. You need to contact your local congressman
Both the House representatives and the US Senate can aid their constituents, as long as it is a federal issue, which is clearly is
@@Fernando5455Jr Im sure senator Cruz of Texas would love to help him because they have exactly same situation. I'm not sure he could use other state federal officials
@@edwinodus Realistically, Only those two government offices, I used to intern for a house of representative member, problem is we can’t force immigration to change their mind, that would definitely be more legal in nature, or to see if any mistakes were made.
@@edwinodus its Florida fu
@@vanlifewithbao7917 this is an immigration office issue. As someone who knows a congressman he tells me that the worst government administration is the immigration office because they are always hiding behind some BS rule to hide accountability.
*He needs one or more of the following:* A Consular Report of Birth Abroad, A Certificate of Citizenship from the USA, A US Passport, or at a minimum a Green Card
*The document he has:* A Canadian Passport
He must have known this all along. It backfired on him. I'm not buying that he served in the Marines.
During vietnam the paperwork was a bit slipshod i know a guy that was discharged from the navy on a medical and he was pissed so he re-enlisted in the army under a different name. Took them 6 months to figure it out.
It sounds like he probably actually should be considered a citizen, but his dad didn’t get the correct documentation for there to be records of it
This is the correct answer. Entitled foreigner couldnt be bothered to fill out some forms
The problem is he won't qualify for Canadian pension plan because he never contributed to it.
Sadly...
But he'll have access to free healthcare
@@sputteringsputnik fair enough...
@@sputteringsputnikFree healthcare ( that they use excuses to not give you, and it’s crap ) and high taxes 😃
He'll get OAS (Old Age Security) which is very little to live on.
That's stupid, he's got evidence that he's been there for 60 years and still doesn't get anything? That's a flat out scam.
Nope, it isn’t. He should have taken care of his immigration status and he would not have a problem now.
He's not unique snowflake. There are hundred thousands of dreamers who lived here for 30+ years and paid into social security but won't be able to benefit from it. if he truly believe in his ideals then he should deport himself to canada
@@xwarped83Are you actually defending the government in this instance? The man’s been a functioning citizen for 60 years, the government had enough information on him to decide he could pay taxes buy a home and work but as soon as he tries to get his social security benefits he’s not a citizen? You’d have to be an idiot to think that’s his fault.
The US is a massive scam.
@@enlargedquack I take it that you don’t live in the US. Am I correct?
He may have been “functioning” but he’s not a citizen. The government is not going to update your immigration status unless the individual starts the process. Taxes are collected from everyone that works, citizen or not. Benefits are paid out to those with citizenship or permanent residency. Yes, this is his fault because he did not apply to correct his immigration status. The only idiot here is you since you’re commenting on a subject that you clearly have no idea how it works. Hopefully you learned something today.
they should pay him back the money they took from him all these years, how hartbreaking and unfair this country can be. fight to the tooth and nail.
damn canadians voting in our elections.
I think this probably is mostly only able to happen with people old enough that they could have that history of stuff without it being checked
That is terrible. Shame on you America!
Maybe he should have taken care of his immigration status on his own. Why is that America’s fault?
America, never at any time " the land of opportunities "
@@xwarped83how was he to work on his immigration status issue if he didn’t even know he had an issue. It was reasonable for him to assume his citizenship was secured. His father American, served in the marines, had a social security card etc.
@@plmburke23 Ask him, he had his whole life to figure that out. Having and American father doesn’t automatically make you a citizen. Joining the marines doesn’t make you a citizen either, he also did not serve in the marines. He was going to join but he got another job. Social security cards are not only given to citizens.
The point is, this isn’t America’s fault.
Anyone that serves in the United States military automatically gets service and ship the problem is he did not serve in the military at all his father did there doesn’t make him a US citizen if he would’ve joined the Marines and served he would’ve got his citizenship
He was a legal citizen while he worked and paid taxes. Now that he is at retirement age, suddenly he's not legal!? What a joke. Give him ALL his social security that he paid then.
well obviously he wasn't or this wouldn't have been an issue^^
ilégal imigrants don't get to complain where there taxes go
No he wasn’t. He was an “illegal immigrant”. They work, pay taxes, and *don’t* get social security.
Isn’t the normal line that he should blame his parents for not doing it the right way?
@jaycol21 Here's the problem. Our government labeled him as LEGAL while he attended school, drove a car, went to work, paid taxes, flew airplanes.... He paid into Social Security because they said he was legal while he was paying into it. Now they owe him a REFUND!!! They want to say all these years later "whoops! Turns out you're not legal after all" .... okay, cool. Then give the man a REFUND on his social security!
One day the ROW will have to do something about this joke of a country
@@jaycol21His parents made a ‘mistake’? His father was born in U.S soil and they moved back to the U.S when the once a little boy was only 2 years old. He lived most of his life in the U.S, and on top of that, the government *labeled* him a U.S citizen….that is until he asked for his retirement funds. Then the government conveniently decided to trace back his steps and came to the conclusion that they can’t determine whether or not his father lived in the U.S for 10 years before having the baby abroad???
He was given a social security card, voter’s registration card, was approved to serve in the Marines and worked for the state police, yet according to you it’s his and his family’s fault? What a joke.
But ‘sure’, it’s totally the parents’ fault. The government has *nOtHiNg* to do with it. At all.
He probably feels used. “Thank you for your service now get”
Obviously he never got his citizenship when he came over
Many Canadians were lied to for decades about being brothers to Americans so why did he need to?
After 911 suddenly the us is not related to nobody…
Evil nation whose evil is now exposed
Thou shalt not make a slave of thy brother.
He was born in the USA
They wouldn’t have been able to kick him out if he was born there, he’s Canadian born.
@@kerolokerokerolo watch again, born in canada, moved to USA at 2.
American dad from New-York, mom from Canada
He is not asking for a hand out. He should get what he paid for.
Unfortunately a ton of immigrants pay into the system like him and either get no benefits or very little. And even with the Social Security Administration stealing people's incomes without a guarantee of benefit they still ran it to the ground and the Social Security is going to run out of funds before millennials can retire.
He is literally asking for a handout. Is his whiteness blinding you? Maybe he should pull himself up by his goddam bootstraps and stop whining for handouts like a welfare queen.
Na he’s illegal
He should get all of his money back.
He's a criminal illegal alien that cast many illegal votes. As a former cop (or should I say, an illegal police impersonator), he should abide by his favorite catchphrase "ignorance of the law is no excuse"
He has a Canadian passport.,. Should have been his first clue
Back in the '50s and the '60s it was very easy for Canadians to come to the US without showing any proof of citizenship. Social security cards can be easily fraudulently manufactured and hand it out like candy. Social security administration has no record of his number ever being in their system nor does the US immigration have any information of his status. But what is true at the moment is he is an illegal living in the United States, voted unknowingly or knowingly in American elections. That is a federal offense, voter fraud.
Exactly. I'm guessing that he never tried to get an American Passport.
@@queentinadoire6931 only US citizen is able to get an American passport. Obviously this guy is not a US citizen.
@@queentinadoire6931 why would you if you're not an American citizen.
Lol
@@xfhnhhgjbvcfgbecause he supposedly thought he was
That sucks! I hope it works out for em.
This shows the importance of maintaining records. He has ID's dating back decades. I hope this gets resolved in his favour.
I have one question, how did he feel about the Dreamers legal status before this happened to him?
Idk , go ask him
His parents dropped the ball. They should be the ones who get the immigration petitions filed for this man when he was a child. I had to do this for my daughter, who was born overseas and moved back here when she was 11 months old. She had her documents filed with USCIS and she was naturalized when she was 19.
When our children were born abroad we received a paper that says US Citizen born abroad very clearly on the birth certificate.
I kept waiting to read what should have been done, by his parents, when he was born. They just assumed he was American without checking ? He came from Canada with a Canadian and an American parent right? He was not born in the US, was he ? Then why didn't his parents check his legal status?
@beckypetersen2680 you reported the birth to the US embassy or consulate? I bet his parents did not.
That's what happened. His dad didn't file for his Consular Report of Birth Abroad at the local US consulate and formalize his _jus sanguinis_ citizenship at birth.
@@user-st6nt4ou6fhow would they have known they had to? Most countries don’t have all these requirements that the US does; I’ve never lived in Canada and I didn’t have my birth registered as Canadian living abroad or anything, I lived in the US my whole life, but because I meet the criteria that was in place when I was born of my mom having been born or naturalized in Canada; I do not have documentation of me being a citizen, but Canadian law is pretty explicit that I am a citizen now, and would just need to show evidence that my mom is a naturalized citizen to get documentation showing it
Oh so now since it’s not a Hispanic y’all are sympathetic. My father came to this country from Mexico when he was 17 he lived here for 40 years. He had his drivers license and social and even paid his taxes and bills. Just for him to get deported in 2017 when he applied for a better paying job. We’re was all this sympathy then?
You dont have be a US Citizen to do all those things, get ssn number, retire, etc.. his parents never filed for permanent residency. My uncles came to the US in the 80s, they just walked into to the SSA office and filed for a ssn number. Cant do that anymore. ( They came here legalliy, grandpa was born in usa in early 1900’s therefore sponsored them)
You have to have status to serve in the military and be a police officer. Watch the whole thing.
@@darkdrake13 No for the Military. Yes to be peace officer.
@@darkdrake13🤣
There was a similar situation with a black man and his birth certificate. Majority of the comments had zero sympathy for him and blamed him for the problem. He was like 20 years old. This man is 66. Theres no excuse
@@TedBundy1989 ummm no the other dude couldn't collect anything. The vital statistics did not put his name on his birth certificate. He couldn't get a id, he couldn't get a social security card, which didn't allow him to get a job. Your assumption is the exact reason for my original comment.
@@ifyjoanna Would you expect any better logic or grasp of facts from somebody with that for a screen name? 😆
I wonder did he *never* look at his birth certificate? Which would have made it clear he was born outside the U.S.? And if he did, did he *never* wonder if his American citizenship was in fact secure? And where the hell were his citizenship papers? It sounds as if he was just drifting through those decades "assuming" everything was FINEFINEFINE. And we all know the old saw about "assuming" things.
You know everything is about what race you are in merkkka. Yet most deny their reality
@@TedBundy1989 how do you know he was collecting welfare? 65% of all welfare is received by whites and the actual welfare queen was a white woman. Somehow your racist white hatred thinks it's a black thing despite the actual facts.
Now let's talk about the 580k law abiding DACA recipients who pay taxes, serve the military and will never receive these benifits either or atleast a path to permanent legal status.
If you are in the military and not a citizen its quite easy to do the paperwork and become one, the chain of command even goes to bat for you and helps you out. I helped many do the paperwork while I was in.
@@GoonyMclinux Hopefully this man can take advantage of this benifit and enjoy his retirement. I hear it can be a long process and every year is counts when you're in your retirement age. Hopefully the voting stuff doesn't mess up his process either.
Law abiding law breakers?
@@mike4402 Like the guy in the video? Yeah, I guess so lol
@@mike4402 You don't get DACA status if you have a criminal background, you waste of space.
His father was an American citizen, he's a vet, he's a citizen.
Nah, he's an illegal. Deport him before he blows up something.
He’s not a vet.
Im confused, his father was a US citizen, but he isnt one? How does that work?
Same thing happened to a woman here in Canada. She is 30 something years old and they just told her that when her mom gave birth to her she wasn’t a Canadian citizen yet and she gave birth in Jamaica. I just don’t understand how can let someone live in your country, works there, they pay their taxes and everything just to turn around and tell them they aren’t citizens? Crazy.
It’s not as if they check. You don’t get someone to check your driving skills every year to check if you really deserve your drivers license. No one goes around checking if everyone’s stack of varied legal papers are what they expect. It’s too much work.
@@yucol5661 but wouldn't a non citizen be on some type of temporary work visa. With a social security card that says not eligible for work. Those visas expire.
It’s evil what nations do to people once they scam them.
you not knowing how things work is what's crazy.
At this point let him be a citizen already.
Nope. Deport his ass
He should apply just like everyone else, right?
He needs to apply legally and wait 13 plus years like everyone else
back of the line.
he should get expedited citizenship because hes white & Canadian? There are people with identical cases that pay their taxes, and serve their country but theyre non white and they still have to go to the decades long process of getting a citizenship. He could get in the back of the line.
The government needs to repay him. This is atrocious.
Lived here his entire life but did not know that you have to be born in the country to be a citizen. It sounds like he has been a liar his entire life and just got caught. He did not want to be a part of the DACA program and I get that, but the rules are what they are and none of us get to pick and choose which ones we follow.
US Immigration, "Rules? We don't know the rules. We are just making this up as we go."
Too many stupid rules. Must be abolished.
They set up the rules, it’s up to the individual to follow them.
The rules are never followed so why bother learning them.
Just move to a country that doesn’t have them…
@@Qresmaidapa it would save tons of money on a stupid wall. He's no different than a migrant worker that's not a permanent resident.
@@gibbsm Migrant worker is more productive than zombie citizen.
Isn't the governor going to deport him
You're heartless. Let him stay as he has nowhere to go
@@benbrown9053he paid his taxes... There are illegals here who do nothing
@@benbrown9053 He came here with his parents when he was age two. i am sure at that time it was not as stringent as it is now. especially for people crossing over from Canada.
@randyg4571 I'm sure a lot of Mexicans can say the same thing. A lot of them being born he as well only to be deported.
@@benbrown9053of all the people I would support to deport- this man is NOT one of them. He paid decades of taxes and has only known his life as an American. So therefore he’s completely entitled to being here as he pleases.
Umm if you lived and worked here for 60 years you are a citizen.
edit: I do not care about stupid laws and all the other idiocy people have to go through but should not.
My grandma came to the US from Liverpool on the Megantic when she was 11 months old. Both her parents died drowning after their small boat in the land of a thousands lakes flipped over in a storm in the 20s. I heard she went through a similar thing in the 70s when she found out she wasn't a citizen. Luckily she was able to work it out when my WW II veteran grandfather passed away and she still received his benefits.
I see a social security card... bro is 100% American. Someone with balls needs to step up and do the right thing.
Lots of illegals, like him, have social security cards.
You dont need to be a citizen or American to get a social security card
@@sakethreddy4450 Maybe with the current illegitimate office but back then you had to be American.
Edit: When I say American I am saying a citizen of America. Didn't think I had to explain that.
@@factsmatter1172 No you did not. And this has been around for Several administrations. You need to do some research with the SSA and DHS, because what you are saying is not correct
@@ensabahnur3104 Okay so maybe obbummer implemented it but it has always been that you need to be American/citizen to get an ss card.
I worked for the free phone service back in 2014/2015 and the only docs accepted was id, birth certificate and ss card.
non citizens had to show their resident card and work permit.
😂 they messed up. He is a Citizen by birth. His father was born in the USA. He needs his father’s birth certificate and that should suffice. Even if he were born in China he is still a US citizen because of his father being a US citizen. Doesn’t matter were you were born only that your parents or one of them were born in the USA
Why would this even depend on citizenship?
He paid into it, he should receive the benefits.
I am a U.S. citizen and have to pay around $1600 to get a certificate of citizenship for my child born in foreign country. Maybe this gentleman's parents forgot this step? 😮
SSN is not citizenship or green card. It’s just a number to collect you money.
So... a scam.
The entire us is a scam.
@@DownBadDad-iz9mp do you know what "scam" means? none of you that are saying this do.
I've said it a million times, everyone wins but the American tax payer. How much money is spent on foreign aid while taxpayers struggle to pay their bills.
Nobody wins concerning the us, it’s a terrorist state.
Billions for war and illegal aliens, nothing for you!
Hey he's not an American citizen he didn't do the process didn't go through the right paperwork he needs to do it right.
I just don't feel one bit sorry for him.
@@angelainamarie9656 Ohh so when he was paying taxes it was okay but when the time came for the govt to pay him back then its a problem?
@@angelainamarie9656so the government treated him like a US citizen in every way his entire life including by taking his money regularly for over half a century. Why would he have any reason to believe he WASNT a US citizen? Have some common sense, here.
I mean I'm paying into social security my whole life and it'll be exhausted by the time i get to benefit from it. So. At least he's not alone. He's with all the young folks also getting fucked! :^)
Damnnn he even served the country..
But the government still took out ss taxes. Incredible.
Payroll taxes apply to everyone who has an income here. Even Shohei Ohtani and Messi pay it too.
Yes, if you work in America, you pay SS taxes. Even temporary workers pay SS taxes, that does not make them entitled to SS.
Crazy
They do that to everyone, including illegal immigrants who will never get that money back
Did you think immigrants don’t pay taxes? Even students pay taxes. Even people with absolutely no papers with jobs have to pay taxes or risk getting slapped with them when they fix their immigration status. Such a big assumption to think that’s how taxes work.
Plus, everyone pays sales taxes.
His dad is an American so he is American , problem solved!!!
They literally say that that's not how it works.
In the Americas your nationality (mostly) depends on where you were born, which location (jus soli). In Europe your nationality depends on who your parents are (jus sanguinis).
So was Obama's mother. Didn't stop half the country from insisting he was born in Kenya and thus wasn't American.
Unlike another famous person's father was born in Kenya 😮
CORRECT... and born in New York...
I feel sad for this guy. When you ask for money problem starts as usual.. as long as you pay no problem 😢
One could certainly have a social security card, a driver's license, pay taxes and not be American. in the early 90-s I was a student on a J-1 visa then and was issued all these. Years later I completed my naturalization and was issued a certificate of naturalization, my kids were issues a certificate of citizenship, so this gentleman should either have this certificate, or his birth certificate if he was born in the US to prove his citizenship, not a socual security card or a driver's license.
Anything beginning with “Florida man”, is going to be a screwed up situation. 😂 the cradle of lunacy.
The circumstance is slightly different. He was the lunatic one. The government is.
Latino immigrants have been having this same situation for decades (DACA, anyone?) and most on these sites just say "Whelp, that is the law, too bad, not sad." But now we have a whyte Canadian, its all "No fair! Sue! He paid into the system, give him his money." Bunch of...rhymes with spigots.
His father was a citizen of the United States. Compared to DACA, whom the children and their parents are illegal in the United States. Very Big difference.
Exactly fk outta here with your double standard
I think the issue here is because the dad was an American he probably assumed his kid could be one, without filing necessary paperwork. It’s sucks but the government was wrong for giving him drivers licenses etc without questioning or informing him of his citizen status. That would’ve saved him from all this trouble.
As for daca, that’s a whole other headache of a policy. Too confusing. One minute they want to keep it next they don’t
No, DACAs were brought here by illegals. Big difference. He just needs to prove his father’s 10 year residency and reapply, not that difficult. He needs to hire a genealogist, not an immigration attorney.
I agree!!!
There's nothing more American than working all your live and finding out you get nothing
Crazy how you got an undocumented immigrant voting
Knowing he was born in Canada, how can he just assume he was an American without an American Passport or a Green Card? That never once occurred to him in his adult life? Come onnnnn.
His dad is a US citizen.
i was born in germany yet im also a citizen. i dont have a birth certificate at all which causes me issues every time i deal with dmv or government agencies. i have a certificate of live birth instead. so in my opinion it could go either way, as far as knowing or not knowing. but if he paid into social security and they wont pay him then why cant he request his payments returned. us illegally garnered payments for a service he is not entitled to????
Canada IS an AMERICAN Country. America is a continent, not a country. America includes every country from Canada to Chile.
People forget legal immigration is a process. Even though his father was an American citizen. And he had the baby in Canada, his father should have filed paperwork with USCIS for green card and later on naturalization.
@@kaiaballobey4239yeah the right term is US citizen not American
How sad 😔... I hope he gets his money and this Straightened out.
Crossing the border is way to fix what he done
They will always take your money out of your check 😢😢
Will be fair to refund all his taxes and accrued interest. Period
That is crazy and absolutely not cool. You served our country and he protected his fellow citizens. He paid the insurance and he should get back. I hope it gets resolved in his favor
DEPORT!
According to news, he never actually served, he was just approved. Everybody who works in the US pays for social security… citizen or not so he’s not entitled to anything.
His father make a huge mistake and he is paying for that,this is really unfair,he have a legal S.S. number so give to him his money
It’s unfair? It’s also against the law. So you want some bureaucrats somewhere to violate the law to help this guy out they should get fired and prosecuted because this guy’s father screwed up.
You are right, but They need to give him his Money.
@@Deborahwillnawskoikoi Non citizens still pay social security taxes each paycheck. To give him his money back, they will also have to give back all the money of other non-citizens who paid taxes. They also give social security numbers to non citizens. He is basically an immigrant who thought he was a citizen unfortunately.
@@Runescapian0wner I know he works for his Money They need to give him all his money.
He just needs to get his father's birth certificate and school records. That's more than enough. If he can figure which county his dad went to school in New York along with his dad's birth certificate then it should be enough. His Canadian birth certificate should show his father's name. It just takes time. His father made a big mistake.
Now he knows how mexicans and mexican americans feel😂
Mexicans haven't been there since the 50s tho! And most of them that came illegal, came as adults so is different...they come into the country knowing that they're illegal!
Wouldn't he have known had he applied for a passport for once in the past 60+ years?
He even voted?? Wow
Illegally.
Needs to go to jail.
A crime certainly. Knowingly applied for a voter registration. A fraud.
The dude is white, never bothered to check his citizenship status haha. He just blended in fine.
Yep but the us attacks anyone that isn’t born there, white or not
Main reason I’ll never live there.
Thats right! Protect white people only
Build the wall 🧱
This is disgusting. Different situation, but my father has fallen to something that happened years ago. He was in college in the 60s and paid his student loans. Last year, we started getting letters from some Federal loan company saying he owes student loans and is incurring interest. It's not from over the years, but starting in 2023. We called them and one of the questions they asked was "What email did you use? Do you have the documents showing you paid it?" WHAT EMAIL FROM 1965! The government and these companies are losing their paperwork and changing the rules to come after anyone!
They had no problem taking his tax payments.
and? it happens to millions, and you're worried about this loser.
So? All immigrants in the USA legal or illegal have to pay taxes.
@@TarulWarlord of course. You're missing the point. They had no problem taking his tax payments all those years but when it time to give him his benefits, they have problem. Do you see the problem?
@@ctll626you’re the one missing the point.
Many illegal immigrants pay taxes every year, none of them go around asking for refunds or complaining to the news.
He should have been deported as soon as it was found out he was illegal.
@@ctll626this happens all the time to other illegal immigrants. My mother’s coworkers have been working two jobs, paying their taxes for decades, and will not receive any of the money they payed in because they’re undocumented. Some of them were also brought in as a child just like the Canadian guy, but they came from our Southern borders. I hope you have sympathy for their cases too.
How could he not have known? He has a Canadian passport only. In 64 yrs he never traveled out of the US? If he had traveled at least once they would have caught it upon his reentry. Canadian passport, US address and no green card.
Passport wasn't required to cross the border to Canada or Mexico until recently.
You know you trying to make excuses that your own police and voting couldn't do their job if he enlisted for that LOL compared to Canada entry.
By your assumption, he would have never been able to return to the US. The border officer would see the issue instantly. Canadians citizens still need to justify their reason for travelling to the US and length of stay.
@@hello855However, the issue would have been realized then and possibly resolved quickly instead of now in his twilight years.
@@jmaxim917would of only been a problem the last 20 years. He was probably driving back n forth between the Us and Canada before 9/11 without a passport And just a ID/license.
They had no problem taking his money but giving it oof
It's not any better even if you are a full US citizen
Social security is paid to foreigners as well, as long as they worked in the US and contributed to the Social Security enough to earn 40 credits. So not being a US citizen should not be an issue for paying him his pension.
You have to be a _Legal_ Permanent Resident to be a foreigner receiving those benefits though, which means having the Green Card and not spending too long out of the country.
@@doujinflip You are correct for this category, however there are many categories of non residents that work in the US, and country of citizenship and country of residency are both important on how social security payments are being paid. There are many Canadians that do not live in US but receive payments, for example.
He is too patriotic to be american....
This also happened to my father who is Ukrainian came here when he was four years old owned businesses fought in the war served this country paid all of his taxes everything and then when it came down to getting his Social Security, he said he was not a citizen
You don't have to be a citizen to collect social security anyway. You don't even have to live in the US to collect. This is all ridiculous and they better be required to pay this man's legal fees and any other costs he incurs fighting this nonsense. His case should be considered under laws at the time he moved to US, not current laws also.
@@je4350
They can if they work for 40 quarters which is equal to 10 years
You don't have to be a u.s citizen to collect social security, when you pay into it legally. You have to be here legally. In his case he counted as an illegal immigrant that's why he can't get it. Funny thing he might be an anti immigrant while he's an illegal himself. All his mom and dad had to do was report his birth to the u.s consulate in Canada. He would have get a u.s birth certificate after DNA prove that was his child.
@@je4350 you can collect it if you have legal residency/a immigrant visa so you don't actually have to be a US citizen you just have to be legal in the US. Also you can live outside of the US and still receive it cause it's retirement money so you can move to mexico permanently and still get it.
He didn’t do it legally, end of story.
@@je4350 I literally responded to your comment saying only US citizens could collect the retirement money and I just pointed out that's not true you just have to be legal in the US as in allowed to be in the US
Come on, America screwed up give this man his money. He served, he worked, love, and is here. Give that man his MON-EY!
Non-citizens are not tax-exempt either.