TaoTao ATM50-A1 Chinese Scooter PDI Assembly Part 8 : Ignition Upgrades And Checks
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- čas přidán 16. 06. 2013
- Part 8 of the Chinese scooter PDI video series covers replacing the spark plug and spark plug cap with quality components for better reliability.
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One thing for sure is you are very accurate and detailed. I really truly appreciate the videos sir. Thank you very much
Thank you so much for these tutorials, I used these videos to uncrate and assemble my moped but neglected to follow along with the upgrades thinking that it wasnt really important and here I am 2 months later rewatching and reinstalling things again. I appreciate your help a lot, just wanted to let you know.
Thanks. I'm glad the vids are helpful. I wouldn't have stuck the mods in the PDI vids if I didn't think they mattered. Sometimes the small things here and there really make a difference. Thanks again.
My Torch pug on my 4 cycle outboard motor is non-resistor and has held up flawlessly.
Very nice man! Its time for me to do some upgrades to me scoot too! ;)
thank you so much have a great day ..!!! i am now a fellow subscriber
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My main reasoning is to get it out of my way and to have less parts to fail. It shouldn't really hurt anything otherwise as long as it's in working condition on a stock setup. It introduces air into the exhaust stream to help burn off unburned fuel and clean up emissions. With aftermarket exhausts it may cause lean popping and additional heat.
Here in the US local parts stores carry NGK plugs. Very easy to get. Google "Keihin PD18J" or "Keihin PD19J" and you should get a bunch of links to carbs.
Do you have a video on how to replace the ignition switch? Something was jammed into my TAOTAO 50 ignition and need to replace it. Please help! :)
i just installed a 80cc on my scooter and was running fine but then it stop when i took the spark plug off the whole thread was stuck and i removed it do you think i need a bigger spark plug ?put a new NGK CR7HS every time i try starting it sounds like it wants to go but nothing any help ?
.026-.028" and don't use a gapper that pries against the iridium or it can break. use a gapper that pulls the ground electrode away.
I really appreciate these videos. Very very helpful. You really know your stuff. I have a couple questions:
1. Do these upgrades hold true for a 150cc?
2. Is a Roketa Chinese scooter assembled basically the same? Does it have the same engine? The GY6?
I ask because I am looking at buying a Roketa.
Thanks in advance.
1. Yes. If you're checking out the whole PDI series, info like the carb won't be correct for the 150 as far as sizes. Torque specs for engine fasteners may vary.
2. Yes, basically the same. This is sort of the little sibling to the GY6 150 that most of the 150 Chinese scoots have.
Great video thanks!
I have a tao tao bws 150cc any spark plug recommendation?
Thanks!!!
The 150cc GY6 uses the same plugs as you see in this vid. :)
you should have really linked the parts used in this series. It's clearly geared toward complete novice's so just saying "ngk spark plug cover" doesnt really help when theres probably thousands of ngk spark plug covers you know? This is extremely valuable for people buying these cheap scooters that they will surely be relying on to start and run properly. I dont even own a tao tao and I will still be doing many of these upgrades and checks to my KYMCO Super 8R but Im not a mechanic (even on the weekends) so Im nervous about buying parts since I doubt you can return them.
2:05 shows the part number. There are not thousands of different NGK plug covers with that part number. I showed part numbers where relevant. Some of the stuff in the PDI is just sort of generic stuff that you can pick up at parts stores without needing any sort of parts info. I do share more links here though : 49ccscoot.proboards.com/thread/8006/chinese-scooter-assembly-pdi
Hey have you ever had problems using both a spark plug and coil with resistors? Here you replace both and both have resistance for radio frequencies and such. Ive heard it can be bad to double up like that but ive never tried a plug with no resistance and coil with resistance. Not sure if the stock coil has the resistor or not but the stock spark plug doesnt. Just wanted yours or anyone elses thoughts on this.
I regularly use resistor caps and plugs without issue. My TPR is revving out to 14,000+ with dual resistors. I've also heard many people say how detrimental it can be to use both, but I've never had a problem.
0:25 mine chinese scooter has stock spark plug 10K km on the speedometr and still going strong never been changed
I've seen others fail without warning with hardly any miles. This is the problem. You don't know what you're getting. With NGK, Denso, etc... you can expect a quality plug.
Hey I bought the cr7 iridium plug shown in this video from amazon, as its still not shipped yet I was reading through my owners manual and it says for the kymco super 8 50 to use the cr6 version, whats the difference and should I use the 6 or 7 in your opinion?
That's the heat range. 6 is hotter. I've always used 7s in the 139QMBs. They're WOT all of the time basically.
Hey, so I adjusted my valve for the front and the rear at .003inch. Is that ok. Also for the carb I rejet it to a 85main and a 35 subjet. Is that ok. Thanks
+Michael Wong That'll work. I'd advise going over the jetting with a tuning process, but that should be a good starting point.
czcams.com/video/K5j8gHg5kMc/video.html
www.49ccscoot.com/faq/carbtune.html
i have a 49cc taotao scooter i brought the exact iridium plug i am using inches which is a proper gap size if you can help me ..thanks
hi. im new to this tao tao scooter. I'm just wondering how do you set te gap idont really understand. idont speak english very well so if you can explain it to me as simple as possible that will be great and where do i get those spark plug that u shown? and one more thing i tried to look for the japanese carb that u shown and i cant find it can you give me a website to look it up? thank you
thank you so much I love your videos on all tao tao upgrades you have made keep them coming, and PLEASE make a video on hard starting issues, I have found a few others and they do not give the detail information you give. I am new at computer knowledge could you E-mail me all of your I am a subscriber, but do not know how to bring them up Thanks again
+michael paradise If you're looking for a list of videos :
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You can find a bunch of tech here :
49ccscoot.proboards.com/board/9/49ccscoot-com-tech-library
There's also a FAQ here :
www.49ccscoot.com/faq/faq.html
I have a Tao Tao 50 i big bored it to a 100cc ran great but now it won't start the starter goes it sounds like the piston is pumping it just doesn't want to turn over I have 2139 km on it and ngk spark plug I just bought a new spark plug coil..... You think I maybe need a new spark plug?
Start here :
czcams.com/video/LogSfY7NhkQ/video.html
my 50 tao tao when starting slips, it sounds like my starter is slipping, not sure, it does eventually start, do you have a video showing this problem ???????????
+michael paradise I don't but I would advise checking your starter bendix. That's a part that sits between the CVT cover and engine cases and allows the starter to engage. If it goes bad, you can have problems that you describe. If you've messed around with the CVT at all, things like removing the cover gasket can even create enough of a spacing issue that the bendix will act up.
What is the reason for taking out tha pair systom out I under stand how to buy why what dose it really do boss?
Why are you using a 5k ohm resistor spark plug and a 5k resistor spark plug cap?
Wouldn't 10k ohm resistance be too much and cause a weaker spark?
bblackmon19 It's fine this way and how stock is setup. You can use non-resistor plugs and caps if you'd like, but it may present problems your your or nearby motorists with electronics.
What do you mean by jetting with a tuning process?
+Michael Wong Please click the links that I provided.
I changed my carburetor since i stocked my scooter for 2yrs. Now my sparkplug keeps fouling and it backfires, Is it running rich ? How to adjust fuel and air ratio? Thanks
Prob already done this, but first drain all of the gas and replace the lines/filter if it sat for 2 years with gas in it. Then compare main jet size from the old carb vs new. Most likely it should be 75-85.
@@49ccscoot thanks for the reply. Ill check it
Hello me and my twin brother have a tao tao scooter his left back turn signal is not working but all of the other turn signal working what's the cause of that or do u have a video or can u help
Most likely cause will be a blown bulb. I would check that first.
can these parts work for a 150cc 157QMJ model?
Yeah, the 150 should use the same plug and cap.
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Donnie Danger
Thank you!
where can I get a sprak plug boot
google "ngk vd05f" and you should see a lot of results or you can check with any local parts places that deal with NGK.
Can you help pls and thank you
ngk dont work with my scoot the best plug for me is champion
!DO NOT! put grease on the threads! Those threats are used as ground / -. If you put grease on it, the connection gets worse, meaning weak spark.
AND AFTER ALL THIS LITTLE ASSEMBLY WORK, YOU'LL OWN A HONDA NOT A TAOTAO