Gaming's Greatest SCAM: The Gaming Chair.
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- čas přidán 20. 06. 2024
- I almost fell for it until I ACTUALLY sat in one. I know several friends who DEEPLY regret investing in a gaming chair. They're poorly made and featureless products marketed to gullible and impressionable people. Gaming chairs are horrible. DO NOT buy a #gamingchair gamersnexus also agreesDO NOT Buy A "Gaming Chair"
Gaming chairs feature poor lumbar support, low quality build construction, no adjustments, and little padding. Put your money towards a chair that doesn't blow. that autonomous ergochair gaming chair worth it
#stupidmarketing #gamingchairs #cheapgamingchair
TIMESTAMPS
0:00 Gaming Chairs Are Bogus
0:29 E3 Announcement
1:03 The Flaw With Bucket Seats
2:51 Searching For A Better Chair At Staples
4:00 Ergonomic Issues And Poor Padding
5:51 What Gaming Chairs LACK
6:36 What Gaming Chairs SHOULD have
8:06 Conclusion and Takeaway - Hry
I actually worked for a gaming chair company so these were our office chairs, (cuz of course they were) and that experience was rough. I didn't realize how harsh it was sitting in these chairs because I knew nothing about gaming chairs at the time. I convinced myself that the chair was great quality and that my back must have been the problem. Fast forward a year, I'm working somewhere else completely, using normal office chairs with 0 back problems.... Gaming chairs are pretty ass...
Super interesting. Can I ask what company? And yeah the back thing kills me as someone who spends their days editing I needed to throw like 250 bucks at a chair, ended up with a fantastic mesh back supporting chair that has saved my lumbar. Thanks for the info, Dylan.
My experience is the exact opposite. Comfortable executive chairs are very expensive (~$300+) - which is more than most "gaming" chairs. Also, regular office stools are not designed with any kind of ergonomics in mind, leaving you with a lot of pain all over the body. I know, I have one in my cube at work. Whereas my home chair (just happens to look "gamey") is very comfortable, properly reclines and I fell asleep in it in multiple occasions. Wouldn't be able to do that in the office chair.
Yeah I gotta say, for the price I think you can get a better gaming chair. For example I paid maybe 200$ and got a solid chair that can recline and has back support if I need it. I still have my old one in the basement for an office chair but the ability to recline is heavenly for my senile back lol.
got a 150$ gaming chair from costco and its been better than any high end office chair ive ever gotten, i wouldnt saying all gaming chair companies are like the one you worked at and make bad overpriced products, but thats essentially every industry at this point
I use a posture correcter and sit in a dinner chair, a little uncomortable to sit in, but my back and spine thanks me. Ever since I used it, all my back aches have been mitigated to non-existence. Even after like 6-12 hour sessions, I could walk perfectly.
Yeah I never understood the connection between sitting in a racecar and sitting in your office/gaming setup. Glad to see people are catching up.
That's exactly what I'm saying.
I mean, unless if you're someone who plays racing games a lot, I can't see it either.
Better off getting a bride or sparco racing seat n putting wheels on it ur self lol
you know what
maybe i can make a meme like i wsnt to buy those gaming chair then seeing the price tag then i reconsider going into some car chair shop and order it from there for cheaper same comforts item
My Secret Lab chair is actually very comfortable. It's just not a durable chair and died WAY too early for how much I paid for it.
Gaming chairs are a great example of style over substance.
And how effective Marketing can be.
shoes are also a great example of style over substance
@@yazanali4603 Trainers yes, as most would be wrecked by wearing them every day for years. But a well made pair of leather shoes can look good and last for decades.
You meant "ugly style over substance"
Literally everyone I know who has a gaming chair is like "yeah it doesn't go up and down any more, the padding ripped after 6 minutes and one of the wheels came off so I replaced it with an egg."
Like come on, man, you'd be better off on the floor.
idk man. my dxracer chair is getting 5years old right now and its still in superior form although i nearly sit 5-10h aday on it. Maybe all your mates bought the 50$ "gaiming chair" then its no suprise
@@ceadeusx even $500 gaming chairs are of dogwater quality
@@heroninja1125 idk. I spend like 300€ on mine and it served me well for the last 5 years. So...either im lucky or someone is overexaturating.
@@ceadeusx theres obviously good ones but it's just most of them are cheap shite
Floor gang vs 399
Literally just threw my $100+ dollar gaming chair away yesterday. Spot on.
should've donated that shit to me
Scamboli Reviews y’all should just use the chairs from the living room.
Howdy
Yea just use a chair lol
I was so surprised to see you on this video
When I got my gaming chair, I was like "Oh this is cool."
Some time later I realized that the plastic chair at my school were better than the gaming chair that I had.
@been guy If they had cushions, I would've just bring the school chair home with me and use that.
I literally have a plastic chair as a gaming chair
Bro school chairs feel better then like 99% of chairs ive ever sat on, ngl
School chairs were elite, made me motivated to do everything but study.
Chair tier list when?
I was so used to seeing gaming chairs in everyone's streams and CZcams videos that I just assumed it was the way to go. Then a year later I wondered why my back was hurting all the time
Same.
you must be sitting in it wrong, been sitting in mine almost a year now. and no back pain.
Everyone knows the only necessary element of a pro gamer setup is a white plastic folding table
Reclining padded leather office chairs are the way to go
@@DustyOrchid057 try sitting in a herman miller or a steelcase chair 9r Amy semi-decent actual office chair. You'll never willingly sit in a gaming chair again. People figured out how to make a chair comfortable to sit in for 8-12 hours a day, literally decades ago.
Office chairs really are superior
I didn't expect to see you here!
They actually started out as added immersion in racing sims. But they look cool, so people bought them for other stuff. And companies delivered.
Yeah, gaming chairs are desirable to a lot of people because of aesthetics alone. You can find very good office chairs but they're usually very conservative looking, which is not to everyone's taste. If you want a gaming chair that looks good _and_ is a quality chair, you have to be willing to do your research and spend more $$$ as best as I can tell (I got a Secret Lab chair after a lot of research and I love it).
Yeah, I got a gaming chair after my last chair died because most of the time I am using my desk as a sim rig.
@@notlNSIGHT dam fine chair. Goes on sale for 1300 every now and then. You can get the base embody for cheaper as well.
Looking cool is the worst reason to buy a chair that you're gonna sit in for potentially hours a day
@@jomalomal and? People are pretty dumb
I call these chairs spinal suicide. It's impossible to sit up straight in them because its curved in. 100% scam. I switched to a shitty $40 chair and its infinitely better, at least now I can choose to sit up straight
Yeah now, keep in mind, you do want lumbar support to push your lower back into proper alignment, as the spine is naturally curved. But yeah those things blow chunks.
i recently got a napa leather secret lab titan evo 2022 xl and i have to say that honestly i am extremely happy with it. i have had it for 3 weeks and none of the problems described in the video seem to apply to it, in fact it seems beyond expectations in all those areas. however this might be because of the elephant in the room which is that the chair cost $1000 instead of $200, it is not easy on the wallet. it feels like an apple product, ridiculously overengineered when maybe there really is a $100 office chair somewhere that would do everything I need.
The selling point of gaming chairs is the aesthetic, which makes sense when you consider they're used by people that livestream for a living. Make one cool looking chair and the people that broadcast themselves sitting in chairs for a living will give you access to millions of eyeballs and tens of millions in free advertising.
I swear sofas are more comfortable than these shitty chairs, i have 3 gaming chairs and none of them are as comfortable as a sofa
@@Maliketh_Montdore need an RGB gaming sofa
A friend of mine working a janitor job got me the office chair I'm sitting in now. It was thrown away because it was missing some screws, which I was able to buy at the hardware store for like 2 dollars. It's served me well for about 2 years at this point and I've never had back issues from it.
Same, the office chair at my work (literally the only office chair at my work) was missing a wheel and I was mandated to throw it away, I asked my boss if I could take it home and now I have the best chair I've had in all my life. My parents-in-law bought my gf a gaming chair and to be honest I can never feel comfortable with it, it just makes an illusion to be somewhat comfortable, but after an hour I can't bare sitting on it
I bought myself a chair and desk worthy on an executive director, my mates were like wtf until they sat on the chair and felt it's comfy as hell, and that my desk is over 6' wide and almost 3' deep, so much room for stuff to be placed! My old gaming chair was uncomfy, overpriced, and looked daft.
imagine buying a 400$ pewdiepie chair.
i use a 160 dollar gaming chair. works out for me
*399
@@souljaboi4021 Gaming chairs are for idiots, go buy something from herman miller or autonomous if you want real back support.
@@thomaskwan3251 arnt hermin millers like 1000 bucks though.
@@ManleyReviews the mirra 2 has good value, the warranty makes it worth it
I finally found a channel that has the same cynical outlook on gaming and its glorious lol
LMAO yup that's what I'm here for
Check out Synthetic Mans channel then
Sterling is peak cynicism
thanks for the warning of this channel
7Cuils
@@acrane3496 synthetic man is pure cynical lmao
Bought a gaming char a couple years ago and just witnessed it wear out incredibly fast... then immediately bought an office chair and realized i wasted money
When I first got my gaming pc, I thought that the common thing to do was to get a gaming chair, because I thought it was the logical thing to do. After using for a year, a majority of my time with my $99 gaming chair was not comfy, so a year later now, I got a office chair for the same price from Costco and the comfort difference is actually insane
The Virgin gaming chair Vs The CHAD top executive chair.
vs THAD NORMAL CHAIR
Vs Mega Chad sitting on the floor
@@suhasop4919 LAD*
1:38 forgot to mention bucket seats are made in the shape of the driver. they're custom made, not some generic seat, and this is important because it lets the driver feel better what the car is doing. make a driver sit in someone else's seat and they might not even fit.
That's very true! Although more for formula racing i think..
@@ManleyReviews if not completely personalized, when you are browsing for racing chairs you can go to the dealers and try out different sizes and pick the one best suited for you, so still even on low end racing they are quite personal.
That explains something I saw in those pitstop videos. There was this one clip where they also changed the entire seat of the car when they replaced the driver. Didn't know it was because of that. Thank you!
@@ManleyReviews it's the case for pretty much every kind of motorsport. open wheel, stock cars, rally, drift, drag, monster trucks, hill climb, sprint cars, basically anything above autocross.
My ideal “gaming chair” is just a chair with wheels, can spin, is adjustable in a reasonable way ( none of those garbage threaded-like-a-screw-height-adjustment ones ), and doesn’t make me feel like I’m sitting on a metal-covered log after 30 minutes. Air conditioned seating be damned, I have a fan for a reason.
I like one with lots of padding comfortable arm rest and that can recline.
So a normal chair then.
I'm sitting on a pillow meant for sleeping that I've added to my gaming chair because it's uncomfortable without that little "mod". Now I don't want this chair anymore...
My online gaming mate is on his second "gaming chair" in 2 years and I can hear him move every time. It creaks and squeals like you would not believe. Its louder than the game audio.
I myself game in a leather fully reclining "Lazy Boy". Perfect for those 18 hour DayZ sessions.
I do agree, lazy boys can't be beat when it comes to gaming their just the goat of comfort
Nothing beats a comfy ass recliner.
I got to know was you building a base.
That doesn't really have to do with gaming chairs. I agree they're ass, but my extremely comfortable and good quality ergonomic chair does the same thing, it's noisy as heck now, but on the other hand I've had it for years. I really should spray some WD40 on it.
I've got a mate with a really squeaky gaming chair, but the squeaks sound more like little farts, so it just sounds like he's constantly parping every 5 seconds. Most of the time, it's quite annoying because of just how constant it is, but occasionally it can be pretty bloody hilarious!
Whoever designed the gaming chair wanted gamers to suffer.
But racecar chairs have similar designs, so it must be cool.
@@suparki123 "Heck yeah, have a chair designed for high speed vehicle on a stationary gaming setup. Man I'm such a genius."
-Guy who invented the gaming chair
Gaming chair companies, and icy hot are working together
Based
Cyberpunk 2077 = gaming chair
Get a good marketing campaign, make it be minimal as possible, collect all the cash you would have used to make a quality chair.
In essence, marketing, I’m sure the chairs they use in comps are top notch chairs, not the actul ahit they sell at stores.
My parents fell hook line and sinker into the gaming chair scam recently. I was looking for chairs to buy, they saw I was doing it, then said “hey, ______ is a e🅱️ic gamer, why not get him a swag gamer chair for his birthday” so I ended up replacing my old squeaky uncomfortable chair with a uncomfortable chair that doesn’t squeak and also has less wiggle room.
At least they tried lol
@@knarfweaselyeah fr
the same thing almost happened to me except she sent me the link and asked if that was okay for my bday. first, i felt embarrassed that it was an rgb chair, so i looked up gaming chairs and the first video was by Gamers Nexus which slammed gaming chairs. I just assumed they were more comfortable because everyone had them. Thankfully, I now got a really comfy office chair with a mesh back, so I don't even have the problem Manley faced there with the back sweat. It's awesome.
Owned a gaming chair about 3 months into the pandemic and this whole work-from-home situation. Absolutely fucking hated it, gave it to a little cousin who thought I gave him God in chair-form (he's 14 and plays Fortnite), bought an actual Ergonomic office chair, and have been happy since then. God I hate Gaming chairs.
Here's what I did, I got a job in facilities at a huge office building and I just rolled a badass $800 office chair to my car and put it in the backseat. I did this a few times now me and my friends/family have excellent lumbar support.
Hey it's me your friend/family
My fav ep from interdimensional tv
based
Where does this facility happen to be located I want to do the "acquire chair" raid with my clan
Ayo 👀
I do a lot of car stuff and I know where gaming chairs came from- cheap Chinese driving seats that flooded the market a couple decades ago, right around the time when cars started including features in their seats that were too expensive for China to copy (heat, a/c, scales for airbags and seat belts). They made more than they could sell to car enthusiasts because no one wanted to remove these features from their cars. These cheap manufacturers started bolting castor tripods on to their unsellable car seats after they saw Recaro do it for massive profits to a high end executive market.
That explains the shitty cushions just wobbling on the chairs.
so it IS chinas fault
It's ALWAYS china's fault
@@ghoulbuster1 Calm down lmao, people buy them. It ain't completely China's fault if people are still funding this type of stuff.
@@billygoatguy3960 no it is fuckin capitalism. they exploited their loss with the dumbness of costumers and it formed a new market they now push all because it gives the sweet money.
Good point. Why *does* my mouse have to light up? The light is a distracting eyesore, whenever my hand's not covering it up.
honestly a simple net backed office chair is wonderful. The net backing is comfortable enough for me and since you get complete airflow and minimal but uniform support its cool too.
I started working at Staples a few years ago before gaming chairs were so mass market, you’d see like the dxracer ones but that was about it. I had assumed the whole point was comfort, but once I tried them compared to the real office chairs I quickly realized it was all marketing. I am constantly encouraging people to sit in the other chairs and feel the difference. Staples just made a bigger push into “gaming” and along with more gaming chairs (they are BY FAR our top sellers), it just means slapping the word gaming on a cheap product so you can charge twice as much for it.
The amount of fucking gaming chairs i sold to stupid ass kids who walked in wanting a gaming chair was disgusting. I do not miss working at staples at all
My Staples didn't even have gaming chairs. my $100 meshback has held up handsomely so far though, other than not being able to lock it in the forward two back positions for some reason.
I can't even say how long I spent trying out chairs for my setup but yeah, mesh office chairs are king.
I work sitting on it, I game sitting on it, I have passed out from complete exhaustion; drunk and sober.
I have a mesh office chair and it's absolutely abysmal as I mostly play racing games with a sim wheel
Mesh office chairs are just the absolute best for 99% of all people and computer use. Avoiding a back drenched in sweat when it's even a little warm is just so damned nice
They are amazing. You can study on them, play on them, work on them, sit in less than classical positions...
Glad someone made this video. Very refreshing, keep up the great work!
Yeah, this craze of low-quality-presented-as-high-quality "gaming" chairs is horrible. Used a Respawn 110 for almost a year, and it SUCKED. My ass was in constant pain after just an hour of sitting. And the lumbar pillow was a joke. Always got jammed in the crevice between the back and seat of the chair. Didn't have a spring-loaded rocking system, armrests were connected to the back so they only moved when you reclined the chair's back part. It was a stiff, mostly plastic mess. AND it was already creaky out of the box. By the time I got rid of it, it was LOUD when it creaked.
HOWEVER, I wouldn't say all gaming-style chairs are bad. I recently replaced it with an Anda Seat Kaiser 2, and my god, this seat is everything I wanted in a gaming chair. Memory foam pillows, a LARGE lumbar pillow that covers more area of the back of the chair, spring-loaded rocking, very thick and soft cushioning, adjustable armrests and an easily accessible lever system, and it DOESN'T CREAK AT ALL. Out of any racer-style chair, this is the only one I've ever been comfy for literally hours in. It was pricey, but worth it for me.
But yeah 9 times out of 10 these "gaming chairs" are scams, made with the cheapest and least durable materials you can find. There are a few good ones, but if you're on a serious budget, get a regular office chair. They are usually infinitely better.
Exactly, I feel like some points he gives only applies to "gaming" chairs under 150-200(still overpriced) but those normally have no support, padding, or adjustability. My gaming chair for 250$ has built in Bluetooth speakers, a decent massager, tilt and height adjustment, rgb, and good lumbar support.
The ones I sat on in staples were horrible prices of garbage.
I completely agree, I got an anda seat chair to replace a 6 year old IKEA one that was falling apart, it’s made of really nice leather with amazing support for my lower back, since getting the chair all of my back pain is gone which I put down completely to the new seat.
How do you only have 1k??? This looks VERY professionally done. Btw, I’ve been debating on a chair for a bit. This vid needs to get around 👏🏻👏🏻
Thanks dawg!!! Trying to really make this channel a thing. Thanks for the kind words!
The amount of effort going into this mans videos is crazy. He deserves over a mil no doubt.
I subscribed last night and I'm sure it said there were 20.5k subscribers. I watch another video this morning and now there's 20.8k! Those numbers are going up and the algorithm is working!
@@simonhilling the original comment is a year old, I’m just glad to see he’s still grinding!
@@jackhall3959 yeah man, I like the style, editing and enthusiasm 👍 21.4k now! Blimey!
*The problem we have today are NOT the gaming chairs themselves. My gaming chair doesn't have the stupid excuse of literal rubber pegs for 'arm rests' and are actually the best ones I've ever had. I always put my legs up with my leg rest while gaming in which office chairs don't readily have yet, and if they do, usually made of mesh. The problem we have is the fact that the flagship game chairs that cost $400-$500 with NO comfort, NO style, NO lumbar support and NOT even real arm rests show up with your first search on ANY search engine. We have streamers and youtubers that get paid crazy amounts of money to make sure they sponsor them to not stop that any time soon. They make awesome gaming chairs around $100-$200 but so lost in searching for them that most people don't even know they exist. They also make Gaming Recliners that are electric and with cup and controller holders, also with some of the best arm rests and back/lumbar support. It's not all gaming chairs in general. It's the ones that are crap that they try to just make money off of with no effort at the top of your search results...*
Awesomely well done video btw!
I ain't reading all that. I'm happy for u tho. Or sorry that happened.
jk naw I appreciate it. I get what you're saying there are of course some good ones around, there's also a ton of garbage ones though like you said.
@@ManleyReviews 😂🤣
Please give some chair recs, even if I have to google them.
Please tell me what chairs are good and where to find them. My arozzi gaming chair just broke. I disassembled it and the frame is basic thin pipe with tiny welds only large enough to create weak spots. The upper frame broke in 3 places, 0 abuse ever since new, 3.5 yrs old, and I'm not overweight or something. It's made from crap and not easily repairable. What can I buy that's good and comfortable for a change?
@@bearcanuck2916 I spent $500 on a Secret Lab chair. I love it. I've had it for two years and I use it for about 8 hours a day (I work from home) and there are *no* signs of wear at all--I've spilled food or drink on it at least a few times and just made sure to wipe it off quickly. I also am never sore or stiff from sitting in it. It doesn't creak, and it's literally comfortable enough to sleep in, especially if you recline it and have something to use as a footrest. Just make sure to get the right size for your height (the website helps you with this). I've used a lot of office chairs of varying quality before and this definitely beats all of them. I haven't owned another gaming chair to compare to, but I did try an Arrozi in a local store and found it uncomfortable after just a few minutes of sitting.
Man I love my Secretlab racer chair. I get that some people have issues, but this shit has helped my back and posture a lot actually. It's different for each person.
For sure different levels of quality and design among companies, lots of gaming chairs are ass though, I'm extremely comfortable in my titan 2020 soft-weave, but I really like a firm chair. I know people that are uncomfortable in Herman Miller chairs, it's all about what fits you. Everyone has different needs based on their body type and personal preference. I really, really wish there was chair store where we could try these damn things out before making a purchase decision. Again I get that some companies offer a risk free trial, but that just doesn't seem ideal as I might not like any of that brands chairs. It's kind of a crappy researching and buying experience all around to be completely honest.
Yeah if you really go in on a nice one it's amazing.
@@Windiguana Yea same here. I love my secret lab soft weave. Perfect balance between firm and softness. I’ll pass on most office chairs, way too soft for me
Sure, but the secretlabs is $500 and a Serta Big and Tall (yes the mattress company) Executive Chair will be the same quality and durability and comfort for ~$250. It just won't look as cool. Source: I've bought in to both. Nothing justifies the Secretlabs price. You can buy a decent recliner for that price.
@@wanderer202 I'll definitely look into it. I got my secret lab for 200 on some sale or another. But in the future I'll definitely consider that other brand.
Great video, man! Like I said before, you make genuine-sounding content! I love it!
I own two 2020 SL Omega chairs. I have no complaints about them. Now, I don't spend more than two hours sitting down because I do use my standing desk. I have been eyeing the Herman Miller Embody “Gaming” Chair because HM office chairs are great for sitting long periods doing work. Anyway, great video!
Seriously, thank you for making this. I had a 230 dollar “gaming” chair, and it felt like i was sitting on a pile of rocks just after 30 minutes. I replaced it with a 60 dollar office chair and the difference is insane. Way more comfortable and affordable, and it actually fits in my room. Those gaming chairs are fucking huge for no reason. All I lost with the switch was the ability to adjust the arms. Never buy gaming chairs.
I used to work for an office furniture specialty company (main brand was Steelcase). Even those chairs are rarely what a gamer really needs.
What you want is a chair that reclines enough to almost put you in the same position you'd get in your grandfather's recliner (feet up and supported and all). That's the position that's best for your back if you'll be sitting for a long time.
My personal setup is a chair I got off Amazon with a nice high back to give neck support if I want it, and reclines far enough to make it comfortable to prop my legs up on the stool I put under the kitchen table I use as a desk. Why a table instead of a desk? Because it allows me to push my monitor far enough away that I don't get eye strain, and gives way more surface area than a conventional desk.
Think outside the box and get the furniture that works best catering to your own needs.
Funny you say that, the chair I'm sporting now reclines mega far and I use another stool for leaning back in. I agree fully with that couch/lazy boy recliner vibe for those single player games. I think a lot of people see the gaming chair in a more "competitive" light instead of gaming chairs focusing on the "chill" aspect. Wish that was more of the market. Thanks for checking it out.
@@ManleyReviews Thanks. I guess we're both more "function over form" fellows.
when it comes to appliances, yes haha.
For me this doesn't hold true, reclining for long periods of time makes my body hurt, and sitting upright/actively engaging my lumbar is much more comfortable. But I used to have scoliosis and have muscular issues, so I'm probably the exception. Every gaming chair I've sat in truly does suck tho, although my friend's secretlab chair was the best of the gaming chairs I've tried. It had actual quality foam and some kind of internal adjustable lumbar. It's priced the same as an expensive office chair I have tho.
Thank you, you have summed up my thoughts on these things ever since I first started seeing them emerge and become more and more popular.
Fun fact: Lazy Boy makes office chairs and Staples sells them.
I always got kicked off my dads lazy boy back in the day so imagine my man-child joy when I went into staples looking for a gaming chair and found a lazy boy office chair for half the price! word of warning though it weighs 50lbs and I had to take it out of the box to fit it in my mazda.
It's like buying a racecar seat instead of a touring seat for comfort
Dammnnn, these videos are so good! So many jokes per minute, and your determination is clear. This is the quality of someone with like 100x the following.
Glad to be on this train early, I'm so inspired.
Make it happen dude yessss!!!
Glad you’re enjoying it Amy!
Agreed - and subscribed. Keep at it, Manley.
I always dog on my friends about their 'gaming' products, especially the gaming chairs. They're so ugly but I never knew about how uncomfortable and bad they were for your back, jeez. How anybody thinks these are cool or in any way necessary is beyond me.
I've struggled with chair comfort for a very long time. I've never found a chair that I can just use for hours and hours and hours. This was major motivation for my trying a gaming chair -- it's a major change in chair style and I expected it to be a major increase in chair quality too.
I've owned two gaming chairs. The first was a gift from family -- I'd mentioned wanting a chair, and I almost certainly used the phrase "gaming chair" since, after all, that'd be most of what I used a chair for. I told them I wanted time to look into options, but they got impatient and just bought *a* "gaming chair", somewhere in the 100 to 200 USD range. My experience with it very strongly aligned with what you've described in this video. It's build quality was honestly lesser than most of the traditional chairs I've used.
The second is a SecretLab chair, which I am still using. The actual build quality is much better, and it has a meaningful warranty (5 years), but I very much feel the design issues that come with the "gaming chair" style. The bucket seat is adequately comfortable when I am sitting in the racecar-driver position, but as soon as I try to sit in it in any other way, it becomes horrible. I'm just not someone who can stay in one position for very long. It's supposed to have the lumbar support that you mention gaming chairs often lacking, but as with every lumbar support system I have used, I have not managed to find a configuration more comfortable than "no support". I will probably ride out its usable life, but I don't expect to be interested in "gaming" chairs when it's time to buy the next chair.
A very strange issue with both chairs: I simply could not find a combination of position and configuration for which using a keyboard was remotely comfortable. It's giving me an existential crisis about how normal chair work -- I don't believe I've ever had this experience with a normal chair.
Tried out a bunch recently, I actually found staples own brand Emerge to be the comfiest. Kinda a halfway point between gaming and office, and cost like a third of the price of some others I was initially after
At least, they know what to aim for.
Last time I tried gaming chairs at a Staples, they pretty all sucked and were stiff as hell... Except maybe the one from the Staples brand.
But I already have a computer chair that's getting pretty old but still works great.
I got a comfy office chair for 75$, and it's perfectly fine.
"Duh gamey char!" craze never interested me.
@1:25 reminds me of sub par Sub Zero and Scorpion costumes on Halloween. Lol
In all fairness Secretlab's Titan series (especially the evo) seem to be solving these problems. Well built, adjustable lumbar support and a good neck pillow go a long way to make up for the shortcomings and for the £450 they go for they're not as bad as the "ermergerd gaming" chairs tend to be. Could just get a preowned Herman Miller tho so idk
I also own a Titan. It's amazing. So much customizability. I've had it for a few years now, and it's held up fine mechanically.
Love my Titan, but it's much more office designed than it is "gaming". I always compare it to sitting in a comfy sedan seat. Sadly missing the holes in the back for my racing harness (lol) but I've made it work haha
I feel attacked lol. I bought a cheap $99 office chair from Amazon. At first it was fine, but over time it was messing up my back due to lack of lumbar suppport. So I ended up getting a gaming chair with the pillow for lumbar support. So far my back has been fine. It's not the most comfortable chair but it gets the job done. Next upgrade I'll definitely look into the those AC seats.
Hey at least it was relatively cheap. I know people who've thrown out 400+ dollar chairs no lie. I need that water cooled chair that also is a toilet and life support system.
@@ManleyReviews Add a ass whiping mechanism and mechanical fleshlight and I'm sold.
@@sempai4056 oh man that's gamer's paradise.
Another amazing feature to include in an actual "Gaming" Chair. . .Speakers. Some people might already have better sound systems in their home, but sitting on one while the bass is blasting and vibrating you is awesome.
That might actually give you quite some advantage if you do the directional sound correctly. Tactile stimulus is the fastest we can respond to (roughly a quarter faster than visual, for example, though the number is "on average"), and gamers are people that will fight for 5ms of reactive advantage. I don't know why this hasn't been done.
Good headphones are always better.
You are just saying Xrocker which is..... awful and trust me it is. You are better with a $500 soundbar setup by the time you spend all that money not to mention it has Dolby Atmos as opposed to the sound Xrockers make. Trust me do this and don't look back.
When I was a kid my mom got me and my brother these weird sort of rocking chairs you sat low close to the ground and they had speakers you could connect with an AUX cable. They were an absolute joy.
@@miskerss Those are Xrockers look them up
I do wonder if these were designed to make gaming painful so people would game less, like some kind of conspiracy by the government to make people go outside.
I love this, everyone bought in like it was the tomigachi they needed to becomes popular. I bought a Staples mesh chair, and it works like crazy, no longer do i feel a build up of head and sweat from hours of getting paid to do graphic design.
Monster Tech recently came out with a ridiculously customizable flight sim chair meant to have a bunch of button boxes and joysticks bolted to it, and it completely ditches the bucket seat BS. Probably the only example of a "gaming chair" that I'd consider buying.
I've only sat in a gaming chair when I would go to fighting game tournaments, and I own one now, and it's been pretty comfortable for me personally, maybe I just happened upon a good brand or something idk, but it's broken down so easily, that I'm gonna sacrifice any comfort for a normal chair that is hopefully sturdy when it's time for a new one
You sir, just gained a new subscriber! Keep up the content! I’m loving it!!!
My goblin posture is so bad I don’t even touch the back of my chair
Imagine being so beta you get a gaming chair
The one that I have doesn’t hurt my back at all. I mean, it starts to hurt if you sit in it all day but aside from that I LOVE it
my favourite thing about this is that I got an ad for a gaming chair right before this video
Bro your content is amazing, keep it up
The production quality on these are INSANE. You have good flow, great jokes, and are well educated and informed. Keep up the good stuff :]
Much appreciated!
Thought I was watching someone with 100k+ subscribers AT LEAST, until I went out of full screen. Good work man.
Heck yeah! Thanks for watching, got a bunch of other fun vids for ya!
Not even a min, never seen a vid by you but a subbed cuz of that lil skit I see you 👀
My dad wanted to get me one this christmas, i intervined and just asked for a really comfortable office chair. Best decision I've ever made.
I went through 2 _"Gaming Chairs"_ before finally doing exactly what you said. I went to Staples and got a chair that was infinitely more comfortable, actually rocked back and forth correctly, and has arms sturdy enough for me to do dips on them. I don't have to constantly stretch my back and it doesn't take 10 steps of slow walking to get slight hip pain to go away after sitting in it for a few hours. My ass also doesn't go numb besides my tailbone which would scream at me after 25 minutes because the padding on $250 game chairs is no better than the padding on $99 gaming chairs, or $35 waiting room chairs. I was literally stunned at the lack of quality. Lol, "Leg rests"? Yeah, those worked great, extending and then flipping into position that make you feel like you are going to tip over the minute you try to use it. Or the adjustable seat which was a lever you had to lift up, then manually set the back to where you want it to be, lock it back in by pushing the lever down, at which point you can sit again. The plastic armrests that felt like they were going to snap off every time I put any weight on them; ei using my arms to help push myself out of the chair because my legs and back were dead from sitting in the fricken thing so long... Ugh.
I could see an actual car seat on a sturdy rockable base being comfortable to game in, but with no _"Power"_ options involved, we are still taking about a chair that probably has a $250 manufacturing cost and weighs 35lbs. That would be a cool gaming chair, but even at the $400+ price point you are not going to get that in a "Gaming Chair" unless you build it yourself because they are basically selling you $50 chairs at various markups with the only difference being RGB and very, very slightly more padding. Fine for 10-15 year-olds, but *PITIFUL* for adults. Heh, I just leaned back in the office chair I ended up buying and guess what I felt? Real lumbar support without some goofy pillow basically just pushing my lower back out way to far concentrated on my spinal cord along with 3"'s on both sides. Yeah, thats fantastic for your back. They should put the extra padding from the pillows in the darn chairs, while widening them so you get the "Bucket" look without actually being trapped.
Ergonomics and anthropometrics have been studied for a long time. We have also been sitting at office jobs for a long time. There are quite a few office chairs (ex. Herman Miller Aeron chair, Steelcase, HAG) that have been out for decades that were produced by engineers and industrial designers with tons of experience in the field. These chairs are also not ideal for gaming, but I can guarantee they are better than these gaming chairs in question. A colorful and aggressive looking, bucketed racecar seat doesn't equate to office or gaming comfort, it equates to, well, racing in a car. Also, do not expect them to be cheap. R&D, design, high end materials and manufacturing techniques cost a lot of money regardless of where its made.
The issue here and in most cases is consumer ignorance, giving marketing vampires an easy time shelling flashy colors and B.S buzzwords. Do your own research people!
Bingo bro.
I think my favourite part about this video is that I got this over dramatic Gaming Chair ad with flames and all the works half way through
I'm actually pretty happy with the SecretLabs chair (the Titan, not the smaller one). I got a fabric one, and it's a good middle-ground between gamer and office chair in that it has (adjustable!) lumbar support, the bucket shape is very slight (meaning you can stretch your shoulders and actually position your legs in different ways), it's very adjustable, and while the seat is firm, it's still comfortable. Still not as good as the office chair I have, but that chair was the same price used as the Titan was new.
Those bucket-style racing chairs are absolute GARBAGE, though, including the small SecretLabs (the Omega, I think)? I sat in a generic one at an office store, and I couldn't believe how uncomfortable it was. No idea how people sit in those for long periods of the day; I don't think I could do it even if I was sponsored.
ill use this video as a reference for which chair ill be getting
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This is just great. This should be the first one to be recommended when you search "Gaming Chair Sucks". I never watched others after seeing this. Spot on.
Hahaha yeah that's actually the first tag I think I put for the video. New video dropping tomorrow morning too! Thanks for stopping by man.
I love that you're using a strobe light to imitate cameras taking pictures. I have a strobe light that still works from Spencers from literally 2002, I might have to find a use for it now..
My friend got one and I bashed on it when I sat on it, and they said I just wasn't a gamer🤷🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
I got a secretlab titan and I don’t regret it. It’s really comfortable for me but I understand that not all gaming chairs are created equal.
How much did it cost you?
@@ManleyReviews €400
I always prefer a bean bag, or one of those circular chairs you sit in. They've never steered me wrong, and only costed me $20!
3:09 there you go again using Beastars music hahaha. I have the OST on Vinyl. I love it to death
Currently watching this on a simple mesh office chair I literally grabbed from down the street like a year or two ago because some neighbors had put it out for bulk collection. Wiped it down and it works great. And this video made me feel very validated. so thank you lol.
I've had 2 gaming chairs so far. Figured the first one was crap and when it broke I got a different one. The second is the one I currently use and I like it but yeah it's definitely not the most comfortable. I just like the anesthetics. When this one breaks I'm just gonna get an office chair
anesthetics?
I have a gaming chair with extending footrest and it gets used only when I want to deeply recline or use my steering wheel for the immersion. Controller games are great for it. When it's time to use the mouse and keyboard, the office chair with sawed-off-snub-nose armrests comes out. I also took an angle grinder to the bit that holds the armrests to the bottom of the seat and lets you adjust their wideness so that I can slide them out and off the chair without fully removing the adjustment knob when it's guitar time.
I'm really just leaving this comment so that the algorithm boosts your channel
I got mine because my local Office Depot was having a sale and it was the cheapest thing I could get after my last chair (office chair that lasted 10+ years and was GLORIOUS). Its been a few months and I hate it. I'm now saving to get a proper replacement for my good ole office chair and have learned my lesson from cheaping out
A prosumer office chair will beat a gaming chair. I've sat on 1200-dollar ergonomic chairs and they are a beast when it comes to comfort and support. My ideal chair would be a relaxed fit high back leather or high-grade vinyl chair that is both very firm with 70 IFD foam and super comfortable where I can easily fall asleep on it.
Keeping us gamer's honest with these callouts. Almost fell to the marketing as well.
Your production quality is too high for your subscriber and view count lol. Keep it up and I hope it pays off for you, I honestly though I was watching a huge channel.
Thanks so much man! Uploading another vid tomorrow!
this basically extends to anything marketed to "gamers" or amateurs or whatever demographic instead of its features or quality. If you want a good product, look for the stuff professionals use, every day, for hours. this means exec chairs. this means professional audio equipment, this means cinematic or professional photographer cameras.
So I got my gaming chair as a desk chair, taken in by the aesthetic and unaware of the problems. I now have to stuff a pillow behind my back and that kinda ruins the aesthetic anyway. When this chair dies, I'm definitely getting an office chair instead.
I kinda had the opposite experience. I bought a normal reasonably-priced office chair and it was a piece of crap, I hated it. Decided to buy an expensive gaming chair and I'm liking it a lot better so far.
Mind telling me why?
@@Byzantophile Because it's not a piece of crap? I'm not sure what specifics you're looking for.
I’m in charge of routing all the non-conveyable (a fancy word for big packages) packages at an Amazon Sort Center. Dozens of gaming chairs come through the facility every single night and I’ve never understood the point of them. They look just like office chairs, the price is just marked up. It’s always baffled me. I finally got curious and decided to look into them and I ended up here. I’m still just as puzzled as I was before but it was an entertaining video nonetheless.
Wow interesting that has to be weird seeing all those units passing through. I truly don’t understand it beyond just seeing other people using them. Maybe it’s just a herd mentality thing?
@@ManleyReviews That must be what it is. I’m not big on watching other people have fun playing video games, but if you do go on twitch 90%+ of the people there have some kind of gaming chair whether they’re sponsored by them or not. If someone watches a lot of gaming streams they’re being constantly advertised to by those companies whether they realize it or not. So when they need a new computer chair, buying one specifically for gaming probably crosses their minds at some point.
I’ve never been a PC gamer so the idea of buying a chair specifically for gaming is such a foreign idea to me. I got my computer chair off the curb one morning before my neighborhood’s trash got picked up and it’s comfortable enough. I may use it for like 5-10 minutes a day when I check my email and stuff. If I was routinely playing games on PC I guess I’d be more concerned about the ergonomics and other features of a chair but it’s just never been an issue for me.
it's that idea of just having fun buying things. As a PC gamer, there's a lot of fun in just getting new gear. Regardless of the actual utility of it. It can be fun shopping for those new mice, headphones etc. And when you play a lot of FPS you do start to see things like
"man, if only my table was bigger, or my chair was more stiff, or my mouspad was smoother etc etc" those thoughts drive tf out of sales. At least with my own perspective.
Glad to see someone talking about this
The optimal gaming chair is a couch. Change My Mind
I tried a lot of "Gaming Chairs", and I didn't like them - until I tried the Secret Labs one. Don't know if it's better than a proper office chair, but definitely better than most other gaming chairs I've tried. And it doesn't have as much of an annoying race car seat shape.
Thank you. I have a Secret Labs Titan and don't really understand the point of this video. You can't blame all gaming chairs when you don't do your research to find good ones. And when he talks about comfort and Lumbar support, my mother has a degree in ergonomics and says my chair is better then most office chairs she sits in when evaluating workplaces.
Same here. My first gaming chair was a shoddy $150 one from Amazon with a no name brand. I got a SecretLab Titan this year and it's a game changer. Always comfortable for me
I was coming here to comment the same thing.
I have tried several gaming chairs, all bad. Also tried a few expensive office chairs, not as bad but overpriced.
Then I tried secret labs, I now have 3 of them in my house. They are expensive but 100% worth it, very comfortable for long periods of time.
Same here. My Titan is a godsend.
Same here my titan saved my back and its been a blessing
As someone who used a Corbeau FX1 as a desk chair for 4 years because I thought it was a cool novelty, I can confidently say that even that was a better experience than any race inspired gaming chair I've tried, and it was miserable the entire 4 years. I bought an '08 HM Aeron recently and I'm not looking back. Also Pork Pie makes some of the comfiest drum thrones if you get the chance to try one out!
Would be great if you did a follow up video on this cause imo you have either grossly exaggerated your points or "gaming" chairs have improved a hell of a lot since you put your video out.
Agreed, I bought one on sale when all the fake leather fell of my old office chair, It was so uncomfortable I dug my leatherless beat up chair back out of the trash.
I've had both a Razer Iskur and Secret labs chairs, both felt horrible after a month of use. I eventually figured that I'd get the same chair I sit on at work, a 199 bucks Hyken office chair from Staples. Best choice I've ever made.
personally my chair helped fix my back issues before I got my secret labs chair I was chilling with a shitty $100 office chair and I had horrible lower back pain but the lumbar support on my chair fixed all that for me so I don't know it seems like a good chair and it's not too expensive
well, a secret lab is like what 350-400? When you have options like Ikea Markus for literally half of that, which are far superior it makes you think twice imo.
The problem was in your posture, you just bought a new chair and it fixed. It would've been fixed if you bought a new 100 bucks office chair, it wouldn't last long ofc
@@pedrosilvamusician ive had a ikea markus and i didnt like it and my back still hurt...
Love your videos my man. Love from Sweden 💯
I recently bought a new chair to replace my old office chair (which was very comfy just like 6 years old). One of my top priorities was a mesh back and it was the best decision! It offers a bit of bounce so not stiff and most importantly it doesn't get hot to sit in. Also proper adjustability is important to getting things like back support right or chair tilt.
AND office chairs are generally cheaper with better features than gaming chairs.
I almost bought a gaming chair last year but my eyes bulged when I saw the price which was around Php 4600 or $ 90 ( this price is considered ridiculous for a Filipino). So I did some research about chairs and went down the rabbit hole for a while and I had a realization that it's best to buy an office chair and considering that my room has a mantled, old wooden floor, it's best if I just bought a chair without wheels because it can easily rip off the cheap, plastic mantle. Now, I have a Php 2300 or $ 45 office chair that has both lumbar and neck support that are so comfortable, I sometimes doze off in it despite sitting in it for more than 8 hours (with some bathroom breaks).
Lmao if you think ₱4600 for a gaming chair is expensive, I wanna know what you think of SecretLabs' gaming chair prices
@@cybunny25 lmao it is. office chair is better and cheaper
I had hand-me-down office chairs from my dads office, and I got pains in my lower back. I bought a secretlab chair for when I moved out, and I haven't had any discomfort even through several lockdowns and I've even slept in it a few times when I couldn't be bothered to crawl into bed.
Anecdotal evidence, I know, but my chair's been good.
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To see how well this chair fits with my desk.
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I saw this support off!
Thank you! I've been thinking thisband saying this for a while