Why You Don't Want Invisibility
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Invisibility is always part of the most desired superpowers argument, but is there more downside to it than meets the eye? Kyle sheds some light on this week's Because Science!
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*The "Kyle is Wrong!" FAQ*
Hey! Thanks for watching. The vlog this week doesn't cover this video, so here are some answers to your corrections:
1. I am of course aware that blind individuals can navigate the world and live normal lives! But I think you'd have a hard time arguing that their experience is a "superpowered" one, as we understand it.
2. Many people are misunderstanding my proprioception argument. I believe that we underestimate just how much visual information adds to our "movement sense." Knowing how to grasp objects, walk among obstacles, etc. (think of how hard it would be if you couldn't see where your body was) involves visual cues you don't even notice.
3. Yes, you can type without looking at your fingers, but that's not what I said. Without being able to FEEL where your fingers are -- with proprioception -- you would have to look at them.
4. The WHOLE POINT isn't that invisibility is impossible or impossible to live with, the point is that it has enough drawbacks that I wouldn't consider many versions of it "super," in that it wouldn't make you a superhero in the way you think. -- KH
As per my comments earlier, I had made an experiment to prove that point 2 is not so much of a drawback.
In the video, you ask us to imagine how to interact object with zero visual input. As a matter of fact, we don't have to imagine, we can replicate that process in VR.
In case you miss my comments, here are my experiments.
I recreated an identical room in the virtual world based on a physical room. Every object is also replicated in that room. The only thing that is missing in the virtual world, is your own body. I can easily grab anything with no problem. The longer I am in it, the more comfortable it becomes.
Do note that, the difference between the physical and virtual world is around 2-3cm. A wall that is supposed to be 10cm away in the real world could be 7-13cm in the virtual world. Even with this layer of error, I still have no problem navigating.
I do have other subjects on the experiment and it takes them a short moment to adjust to it. Now imagine having this power since birth, you will adapt to it like learning how to walk.
Points 1-4 make perfect sense, Kyle. These drawbacks hardly make for a "super" ability at all. That's why, as I previously commented, the only method/means of invisibility to others that makes sense is a phase-shift out of our 3 dimensional space where you can still walk around and see and hear everything, but perhaps not interact with it (much, if at all). Frodo and Bilbo's Ring of Power; Phase shifting a la the later Stargate SG-1 episodes with Merlin's workshop- out of phase and invisible to the rest of us, but technically "still there".
Hi Kyle !
I am SOOOO glad someone answered the 'are you blind if invisible' question. I just thought about this the other week because I almost read the Invisible Man, and it has been bugging me ever since for the first time in my ENTIRE life, and now, this video.
I think people want to be TRANSPARENT (Not Translucent
Being invisible with visible eyes is exactly what I want.
That would be a little freaky
Just cover them with glasses
@@thedude8457 then you can cover the glasses with a mask
@@ddvmian and then make the mask and glasses invisible
@@ddvmian then you can cover the mask with a scarf.
"911, what's your emergency?"
"Yeah, uh, I see a pair of floating eyes outside my window."
@@incognito9292 I'll probably be seeing that in my sleep now. Fun.
Just poke em
SneakySneaky Snake
yeah, with a knife
911 says, quit taking drugs dumbass.....
now im wondering, what if you just made the very top layer of your eyes visible then kept everything else invisible, wouldn't that work?
This guy just proved people have frame rates
If my eyes had the fps of my laptop, I'm only seeing one frame.
More accurate would be describing it as latency and image persistence.
@@theholypeanut8193 shame i can do 90fps
@@rajeshbedi 😂😂😂😂
It’s already been proven. We see about 120 FPS. It’s capped at something otherwise we would be able to see tires spinning and helicopter blades spinning more clearly.
As someone who has experience being invisible to the ladies, it ain't all that fun.
But I see you 👀
Fr
🤣🤣
It can be plenty fun if you take advantage of it. You need to know how to use the cards you've been dealt.
Lol I have that problem too!
Honestly, being a floating pair of glowing eyes sounds fine. It's small enough to make most people think they're just seeing things but just big enough to creep the shit out of someone.
Yup
Do you have any idea how big a whole single eye is right?
Since i saw a real human eye and it is pretty big.
@@stonkermcstonkerface4531 wouldnt u only see the front of the eyes that are exposed normally to other people?
interestingly, in the invisible man novel, the invisible man says that the cat he turned invisible still had visible retinas, as the invis juice didn't bleach them clean
@@eg_manifest510 u can't use logic from a fictional novel to prove this
You’re killing the fantasies of every teenager with strong hormones
His argument is 14.5 minutes long, but the counter argument is literally just "boobs" lol.
@@NickC_222 no it's "cock"
Thats concerning thats a fantasy consent is vital.
I know it's supposed to be joke but I've had people watching me without my consent before and if I can tell you one thing it's not fun. At all.
@@tamatebako_yt ... It's not supposed to be fun for the person being watched. Ideally, the person being watched wouldn't know their being watched. That said, it's still fucked up, I just think your argument is bad.
What if instead of turning yourself invisible, you could just turn off people's perception of you. It's less invisibility and more psychic pushing, but I feel like that could be better (as long as you can turn it on and off)
HxH
oooo this is a cool ideas
Jesus loves you 😊
Jesus loves you
Vampires from World of Darkness
Proposition;
What if we made a nano fiber optic mesh that collects photons and sends them from about the same location from any angle. Routing the light around you?
You could place magnetic coils around the fibers to collect data from the sympathetic charge and make a 360° line of sight.
The thermal energy of your body could be regulated and the excess heat could be filtered through a cascade lens making random wave lengths of light. that light could then be used to boost the output light so there is no preceivable heat or dimming.
Only a randomly oscillating polarization lens would be able to see the shimmer of light at the wrong angle.
That's kind of how Translucent from The Boys turns invisible.
This mf did not just figure out invisibility
Crysis symbiotic suit much?
@@03luigi14 And we all know how that worked out for him
Poungue
"Close your eyes, itll be fine, close your eyes"
Me, listening to this while driving : "yeah I dont think that would be fine"
Well as long as it's not texting.
(Sarcasm)
In theory you wouldn't be able to close your eyes because your eyelids would be invisible too.
@@Jamac007 you're not wrong
@@Jamac007 wait why not canr your eye lids close like normal?
@@HassanAhmed-rf9xr if you're invisible it means every part of you is invisible, even to yourself, can't see your hands, feet or any body part, that includes your eye lids.
Shut up I'm already invisible to other people
Yeah your right .
Anyone else hear that? Sounds like an invisible comment.
I know u from jacksfilms
What was that sound? hm, must've been the wind
seriously though the joke is even funnier because of the amount of likes and the fact you got a checkmark next to the name. most people with a check get a lot more then 31... well 32 cause of me
😁
Yeah I like the "invisibility" where it's you just cropping yourself out from people perceptions and they just subconsciously ignore you. Like you walk up and take a coffee and the world fills in that someone bought it in everyone's head that sees the coffee disappear, but there would still be a physical record of it being stolen
I like the concept of interfering with thoughts to basically remove your presence from their mind
Same here
That's basically gaslighting people into thinking you don't exist. Check out the "false hydra" dnd homebrew monster, you might like it
How would that work with CCTV?
@@ianwalker1182 typically the power allows you to show up on camera
@@ianwalker1182 Well, the way it likely works on regular humans is with some kind of magnetism or radio-wave-like ability that makes peoples eyes inherently avoid you and your brain avoid perception, these radio waves could disrupt cctv signal, and magnetism would break the camera/footage.
Who's sitting here thinking about how good Daredevil would do he had invisibility
The moment he mentioned being blind as a side effect, I thought 'Murdock would be awesome at invisibility'
Exactly
This brings up interesting points in regards to the power in comics. Being blind while invisible would encourage skills that the blind use.
@@jyoder1 it’s been a year sense I’ve watched this guy wow
that's exactly hat I was thinking, like he's already blind
*reads title*
*reads channel name*
Oh ok. That explains it.
*because science*
Sam Hurley yep
Lol
You don't want invisibility
Because Science
Sam Hurley lllooooolll
Actually, having power of invisibility with blindness as a drawback could make for an interesting story. Imagine, a man who you can't see and he cannot see you, yet he remembers every smell, every sound, every touch, etc.
That’s what they say if you had a “permeation quirk” (passing through solid objects). In MHA they explained that you couldn’t see, breathe or hear when that power was activated. I’d love to see that power explored in a future video
You'd still go through the floor.
@@twistedyogertwhich is a move that the character with the Permeation quirk uses in combat.
Sinking into the ground and then popping up to strike his opponents.
Sounds exactly like something someone with invisibility would say
I was watching this with my four-year-old nephew and he was like "How does he know that I would sneak into the movies?!"
How did he know
How?
How did he know tho
Yeah how did he know
How does he know this?
One cool thing about the original Predator movie (I don't remember if they do this in the sequels) is his eyes will occasionally flash yellow while he was invisible. I always interpreted this as his suit taking a picture of his surroundings and using it to make a 3d space for him to navigate. Just a personal headcanon of mine.
I think that if you projected your background like Predator’s suit, you could incorporate augmented reality that could allow only you to see your own body. Also, with time and practice, you could hone proprioception to the point where you could “see” your own body without needing to actually see it.
But with the predator suit technique, wouldn't a problem occur when the person watching you moves/changes perspective?
@@hanneswiggenhorn2023 actually what would end up happening is you'd see the bent light which would actually distort your vision like a fisheye lense because it wouldn't be on your eye it would be in front of it, also you don't need to be invisible per say you just need to look like the terrain behind you so just matching your heat signature roughly with what's around you so as soon as you stop you appear as everything else much like the covenant which is probably the best stealth tech at range without hindering the user.
@@hanneswiggenhorn2023 Can be solved with holographics. Technically.
(Each pixel of your suit looks different depending on the angle you look at it at. The required level of technology, though…)
@@kody.wiremane but would that also work against infrared vision?
@@hanneswiggenhorn2023 Well, kinda. Imagine that the suit blocks the heat emitted by the body, while retranslating the holographic (view-angle-sensitive) image of objects behind the suit, in all reasonable wavelengths, including IR. What that requires, though, is each pixel retranlating light rays from all other pixels (at different angles); what's worse, as the suit is moving with the body, these angles also change, so it can't be just a ton of optic fibers, it needs real-time commutation. May be easier with, say, an "invisibility sphere", coz it's shape is constant, so it can be probably done with just optic fibers. Though it still fails in rain, smoke, fog, etc. Again, if you think, such a suit must replicate rays from such light sources as the sun, to avoid creating a shadow; if the suit recreates light instead of rerouting it, I think the suit will be pretty hot to wear 'x)
Nobody:
This channel: "Why You don't want to breath oxygen."
Cause it forms radical species in our bodies leading to cancer and agging
dragonballz naruto I like how you spelt it wrong both times
they are the same comment bro
dragonballz naruto you made two comments
You don’t because of free radicals
The story of an spy who retires after being blinded, goes through an intensive training regimen to use echolocation and the natural sounds around him, and then is chosen to be an invisible superhero is fantastic and I now need it in my life.
Re: When Daredevil gained the power of Invisibility suit, of ThermOptic Camouflage.
Fantastic idea
This gives me some ideas
sounds like alot of marvel movies but with a twist
yo quick! Think of a name for him!
I once bought a new pair of shoes that had oddly shaped and wide soles, kept tripping on stuff because I wasn't used to moving my feet in them. So I could see how this would apply. It would be like trying to grab a glass of water while wearing a blinder (like the ones used on horses) on one side. Tactile maneuvering only.
Most people never consider these things. This is why I love this channel.
5:12 Now that is genius. I hadn't considered dust particles. I guess what it means for a solution is - the classic invisibility. If something touches you, it too turns invisible.
Drax knows how to be truly invisible 😁
The key is to avoid eating Zarg-Nuts. Typical giveaway when you do that.
I love you for that comment😂
So does Hawkeye
Kris Anticknap noted
So true lol
Please keep in mind that this video refers to classic invisibility. With the exception of the 'no spatial awareness' rule and the thermal imaging mentioned in this video, projecting photons that are on either side of oneself could easily combat that whole 'unable to see' argument. Although he's right, you still wouldn't be able to rob banks/ steal anything because a floating bag of cash or a Chanel handbag would be a dead giveaway. The most you could do with this would be to avoid social interaction. Which in my opinion is sooo fucking worth it.
"avoid social interaction" People around you would still hear you breathing and now they think the place is haunted
If people can hear you breathing, there is something wrong. Even if that were the case, you'd be the ultimate prankster. That also sounds like a win in my book.
SirBugSlayer not if you're smart and rob places at night
As any serious nerd can tell you, there are far easier ways to become invisible socially. Just pull out a Magic the Gathering deck, and nobody will acknowledge your presence in any way.
Chen Sun play pranks?
The only character I ever gave invisibility to they also had space/time powers of awareness of what was around them (basically, they had that first option you talked about but they didn't need to have their eyes open to see things around them). I feel like that would work but that also includes a whole other set of powers to have to go with it.....
Worm had someone have a power of invisibility by literally making people forget about her while the power was active. She could reappear and their memories would be restored.
That said, I think any super power is too easy to corrupt a person for us to want. As you mentioned, invisibility would probably have people more willing to try spying on or stealing from others. As fun as it could be to be 'naughty,' one would likely loose some of their morals. I know I'd probably be too tempted to go where I'm not supposed to go.
Me at 8: if I had super Powers it would be teleportation, super strength, and invisibility!
Because science: Hold up..
> Because science: Hold up..
Because Science: "Hold my Erlenmeyer flask..."
When I was younger I had that same list except just replace strength with forcefields.
well you can have invisibility by hoping in the 4d and you probobly could just see the inside of anything boxs animals and more or you will just freeze to death
I want to be a saiyan
Lol 😂
He looks like Thor and sounds like VSauce3.
+
If Thor did the fusion dance with Vsauce you would get this dude.
Weston Oler the best combo
The perfect human
Facts
Has he made one of these about shape-shifting? I'm talking something like Alex Mercer from the game PROTOTYPE. Grow armor, claws, blades, whips, hammer fists, etc. Even the ability to fly/glide by growing wings or just turning into something that has wings, whether it be a bird or something mythicalogical like a dragon. Would the power of shape-shifting do something to the human mind?
I'm also really curious, I've always liked shapeshifting, always one of my top power choices. Especially recently when thinking about symbiotes.
fellow prototype gamer
The mind will most likely be fine as octopus and cuttlefish have amazing camouflage that can mimic surface textures to hide in sand corral or rock......
Or are octopus and cuttlefish secretly insane....
The book "Secret Keepers" has an excellently accurate version of invisibility. It has a watch with a special metal allowing it to re-route photons when powered. In the book, it does make the invisible people blind, but only while they are holding it and stuff (holding because the watch draws power from the holder, which does make them tired etc.). But, because it redirects them, you aren't completely invisible because there is still a little haze due to the photons getting messed with (similar to refraction).
The book is by Trenton Lee Stewart and it is amazingly accurate and just a good book.
Daredevil doesn't need to see. So I think he would be the best at being invisible. :P
Whoaa
Good point
Technically daredevil can see.. just not like a normal person
He needs sounds to see so he needs to make TOO much sound if he wants to be able to see himself and you can't sneak into anywhere if there is a someone because free sound you make wakes up everyone
@@baranjan6969 he uses sound, touch, taste, AND smell. Hed probably use echolocation, which would probably need silent tongue clicking
this proves that “if i can’t see you, you can’t see me”
No u can just cover your eyes
Stand in the shadows
Simpler, the person is behind you.
No not really.
StakingBloom 442 security camera
The best way I could understand the theory of being invisible and the comparison of not have the mobility thing in your brain is the same feeling of have absolutely no blood circulation in all of your nerves. You when your: arm, hand, leg, and/or foot are so numb to the point you can’t feel what your: stepping on, holding, or touching anything, is what I think is would be like to be invisible based on how he described with the brains mobility thing. (I’m sorry if my explanation doesn’t make sense, not really good at explaining or describing things)
Honestly the best possible invisibility has to be the false hydra from d&d. People see you, they just don't realize they see you and forget if they did.
Can I just be a floating skeleton? Because then I can fulfill my dream to be a spooky scary skeleton.
Inisii SPOOPY!! 😂
Sannneessss ddaaannnccceee
Doot doot
Freeky do you know something we dont
Lilly Phillips would you send shivers down my spine?
You told me to close my eyes. I didn’t think it was a good idea. You said “it will be fine.” I was driving Kyle. It was not fine.
Harrison Tarabella why were you driving while watching this video?
Alec Smith he might of been just listening to it,I do it often.
Nukebros 0205 yes i do to but just in footnotes
Alec Smith yeah a lot of times I just listen to the audio of shows like this like it’s a podcast
I read this book once called The Secret Keepers that had an invisibility plot. The device the main character used was a watch that altered light to render one invisible, but as a side effect made him blind while it was in use. The duration was also limited for plot reasons that I won't get into because spoilers. It was a really interesting story, all and all, and did really well with the concept.
It's "all in all". Not "all and all".
There’s a potential fourth way to be invisible like they do in Baki. It’s hipnosis where you don’t see the other person but you see everything else. Not really “invisibility” but the same effect
My friend experienced that and it was quite funny
*Turns invisible*
"Does this outfit make me look fat?"
Tries to scratch my head, but can't cause of my helmet. Shrugs.
Lmao, Ms Appear
Emmm
No
No honey
Your so thin I can't even see you
You aren't fat in the first place... I think
Thanks Thor now I understand
exactly my thoughts xdd
HAHAHA
Holsp 😂😂😂
Jackscepticeye thor
Thor's just making videos to discredit all the other superheroes so that he can prove he's the best. Up next: Why You Don't Want To Turn Into An Angry Green Monster
As many others have already mentioned with examples from other fandoms, you don't need real invisibility - only a telepathic suggestion. I'd like to add another fandom on the list, and that's Star Wars, where (at least in some of the extended universe) Jedi can do a 'don't see me' mental suggestion/trick, so they slip by undetected. It's more difficult the more people are involved, but it does make for a more convenient premise.
That would be a lot more useful form of invisibility that would be actually good to have. But you could still be seen on a camera afterwards if something happen to record you. Not a downside so big you wouldn't want it, just something you would need to keep in mind. Dogs sniffing out your smell could become a problem too
The only reason i wanna be invisible is to deal with my crippling anxiety, to be able to go outside with the knowledge that i am not being percieved. So, as long as i dont break laws by like running in red lights, i dont think the visible eyes will be a problem lol.
This explains why endermens eyes can be seen with invisibility potion
Yes. It does
I spiders too, they sometimes spawn with potion effects!
Yee, although it would also make any creature's eyes visible too, not just them
maybe Minecraft logic isn't that unlogical
@@luciussalcedo3731
Why can't you be seen then,?
Since we can change skins to make anything be anything, i think we don't even have features like eyes. We just
.. see?
Can I just have Drax's ability to stand so still that I become unnoticeable?
You already do🤯
@@jtwheeler5985 holy fuck
I'm glad the first thing you brought up was that you would be blind. A comic with an invisible character did approach this was "Planetary". Loving your videos
Damnnn we’ve come along away, I remember watching this video for the first time. Keep up the good work G
If I have invisibility... I will steal neighbour's highspeed wifi.
TotallySpoon this is the second time you complained about your wifi
TotallySpoon whats your wifi ?
I think they will notice a flying phone in their house
TotallySpoon omg good one.
DM me, I can help you with that.
Im invisible to girls...
Yep thats my superpower
suicide by words much?
Self destructive:100
i would like that super power wink wink
TwelvN yeah
Mine too
This argument is totally right, and I think the only thing that saves invisibility is if you can make specific parts of yourself invisible. You could turn your arm invisible to confuse someone when you’re punching them, for example. That does bring in the issue of the lack of visual information, but it could still be possible.
"What would you do if you could turn invisible"
I'll be in my bedroom. Making no noise and pretending I don't exist.
Ask this question to John Cena
kirby march Barcena how are you gonna find him?
Davin Williams We can't see him.
This need more like lmao
Ask drax the destroyer, or should i say, Drax the invisible
czcams.com/video/MdVOAfXRcjI/video.html
Ha! Jokes on you! I'm already invisible to other people
Healt Desimal *OOF*
Ha
This is deep. I'm gonna go commit not alive now
*clap*clap*
Nice joke Cplee
*clap*clap*
Lol im just invisible to girls
There is a variant of invisibility that I came up with for my story.
It assumes that light passes through an additional 4th dimension in space, some of the light passes through, but when some of the light is reflected, it is sent along a coordinate to another dimension, so this reflection is no longer in contact with our 3rd dimensions, and we we don't see.
Getting into this dimension makes them completely invisible, but the people themselves do not see anything in this dimension.
The owner of the ability must have 3D vision in order to see photons from the 4th dimension and navigate in space (this also gives him a semblance of x-ray vision, because he sees those photons that pass through objects)
I didn't know Thor started making CZcams videos.
Isa Pudiyapura XD literally the reason I clicked on this vid.
Fucking ruthless 😂😂
Not fucking close to the real thor
Isa Pudiyapura
Lol
You must be new around here
I have figured out how to be invisible!! All you have to do is be an introvert in High School.
Sixty9Cuda Won’t work, teachers would still talk to you or school counselors
Sixty9Cuda
#lolz
Lol sometime teacher or one of my class mate talk to me because they think I am "lonely".
or have a coc profile picture?😂
My name is every person in middle and high school I am a introvert and almost every kid interacted with me
starting at 4:39 if you could bend photons instead of making yourself invisible, you can alter other people's site or bend photons away from other people's eyes, making them believe that they just went blind
I hope I said that correctly
All the alternatives I can think of:
In hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy or specifically "so long and thanks for all the fish" there's a piece of technology called the "Somebody Else's Problem Field" or SEP where you basically can't notice it if its existence would be a problem to you.
it really isn't invisibility but rather a projection of something so absurd that your brain just decides to ignore it so becomes somebody else's problem. You can catch what it actually is in the corner of your eye though if I remember right. But hay, it only requires a 9 volt battery to run indefinitely and cooler you can turn it around on yourself in any environment impossible to survive in because it can cause your body to just ignore the danger to such a degree it just goes on like normal because its somebody else's problem.
Similarly SCP-5000 is a suit where while on, everyone and everything looking at you literally can't comprehend your existence so their brain just immediately erases any image of your presence. So your not invisible, people's brains just can't allowed them to understand that you're there.
And the least interesting but wanted to mention it, the nano suit in Crysis how it works is its one giant mirror where its reflecting the environment around it making it look like nothing is there, and I think I can assume the suit can emulate the surrounding temperature as well, but that wouldn't help if you were standing, also light can't pass through you meaning if someone shines a flashlight or laser at you it won't light up anything behind you making your location obvious and one that practically means your doomed. And that last one is actually shown in game, where enemies will shoot at you if they realize their laser sights just suddenly stopped in empty space. Same reason you'd probably be caught on thermals while standing, because a random grey human shape in the middle of space probably wouldn't be normal. Yeah this is the weakest in the bunch, but works great if you have it for a suit that can do other super power like things.
Man I think I accidentally ranked it from best to worse there.
I just want to be a pair of floaty eye bois.
You'd have to eat and digest too if you didn't have a transparent food option.
So...a pair of floaty eye bois that look like hummingbirds and a stomach that looks like a cute doggo filled with the remains of your victims? :)
Will Holz time to walk around and scare people >:D
who would win
Thermal Camera
vs
F l o a t y E y e B o i s
no you're not transparent. You have the light bed AROUND your body. Just your eyes would need to absorb light.
Tip: to make you invisible to everyone, just make them blind!
No all you have to do is walk around with a blindfold on. And then they can't see you.
Just poison the local water supply with a toxin that affects vision
@@sneakysnake7695 wow, that is just the sort of thing a very sneaky, sneaky snake would say.
The Triffid defense.
'In the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king'
If one could control when they are visible and when they are invisible it would be different than if they were just always invisible. Even psychologically it would be very different.
Watching this on an OLED screen in complete darkness was a delight
I like how the vampires from World of Darkness utilize invisibility.
That's because they don't turn invisible. Instead, they influence the minds of people around them to not notice them and to make them rationalise why they shouldn't bump into you. Of course, there are plenty of creatures who are immune or highly resistant to this, but that makes the power a lot more interesting IMO.
Yes
VTM is a fun game, I do live how half of the abilities are just forms of ultra persuasion
Similar to the SEP Field in Douglas Adams’ “Hitchhiker’s Guide To The Galaxy” series. Basically, it’s a device that creates a field around an object rendering it “somebody else’s problem.” It’s not that the spaceship on the cricket pitch can’t be seen, it’s that anyone who sees it subconsciously tells themselves “How odd, I’m glad that isn’t my concern,” and they happily ignore it.
I feel like this is a pretty common ability in fiction
Sith and Jedi can do this too. Basically mind trick the person into not perceiving them. The cool thing about this power vs Sue storm invisibility is that it can apply to sounds or objects or even other people. Arguably it's more imperceptibility than invisibility though.
Drax showed it to us...you just have to stand still for a short period of time
When I was young and I fantasized of having invisibility powers, I guess I was really fantasizing about being a ghost. I didn’t want people to see me, but I also wanted to be able to walk through walls at the same time. 🤷♂️
Him: “It would be almost impossible to sneak through places you’d want to be undetected in”
Me wanting to be invisible in school..
Dont want to the ability to be invisble? Just want the ability to make everyone blind.
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shit i'd kill myself if you did that to me lol
Close your eyes, and suddenly you're listening to Jake Roper from Vsauce3
timmy delorian Haha, screw you, I can't unhear it now
FECK HOW COULD YOU DO THIS TO ME
I ve only noticed this recently as well but very much agree.
Kinda looks like him too...FABIO ROPER 😂
More like Fake Roper
To fix the not being able to see problem, the invisible person must also be able to see in an invisible wavelength like infrared or ultraviolet that way they can see while invisible
6:35 - LOL! Nice reference 🤣
This guy is ruining all our dreams. Next : Immortality, pyrokinesis, magic...
The Boss ted-ed already did that XD
Antagonists fuck ted-ed ? Why lol
Antagonists its okay *hugs*
I mean, immortality has some very obvious drawbacks which makes it so I wouldn't even want it myself.
You can't ruin Immortality it comes in far to many shapes and forms to ruin the concept as a whole
Okay,... but instead of turning yourself invisible you block your presence from others consciousness. An illusion of you not being there.
Being anti-memetic would be cool
there's actually a character with that power I think he was called forgetmenot or whatever
Perhaps having your consciousness/soul on another level renders you invisible to those without spiritual perception.
Similar to that of Paranormal mechanics or smth
Add in the ability to disrupt video devices and presto. Even IR cameras can’t see you.
@@foxzo9356 Jace Beleren from Magic The Gathering
I remember in the books for maximum ride one of the characters had invisibility, but like you said, his eyes and teeth were visible
7:00 OK you are taking this to the length. May I suggest a future conversation be about invisibility that does work. That is, you can wear clothes, anything you touch becomes invisible until you let it go, and you cannot be seen with a heat-camera, or in the rain, or really at all.
As a bonus, however, you can change your vision. You can either see yourself as everyone sees you - or you can perfectly see yourself, even in a mirror. Anything you touch or otherwise.
And THEN discuss some of the problems that would have.
I didn't know Thor had a CZcams channel😂😂
Desto Hup I didn't even know he new how to use a camera especially since he doesn't know what pop tarts are
Desto Hup , IKR
XD but where is his gf now!
I knew I saw him somewhere before! makes sense..
xD I thought I was the only one who thought he looked like an off-brand Thor
Here's my solution to 'most' of the problems.
The way my brand invisibility works is that photons with a frequency below ultraviolet pass through your body, but your eyes are mutated to only see ultraviolet light instead of visible. So you can see yourself since you absorb ultraviolet, and your invisibe to half the EM spectrum.
Ok mr "Im very smart and have a lot of knowledge and i am prolly very good looking as well"
@@UserFriendlyArtist wish I looked good
@@pleaseletmehavemyprivacy3450 same 😪
Interesting hero, would this result in the side effect of being more vulnerable to UV, if so that could make things interesting with a hero who fights at night, not because of the aesthetic, but because being invisible in broad daylight will give sun burn and risk cancer.
@@stm7810 his hero doesn’t need to be vulnerable to UV light. But being so would indeed make things more interesting.
Most of your points seem pretty valid, but as someone who gets around with a visual impairment and has done extensive training under blindfold, I can tell you that you would adapt to the inability to see your body and you’d be able to do most functions fairly well, just by feeling where you are in space. It’s not necessarily easy and it is certainly a skill that needs to be learned, but, I have seen it done with others and I have felt it myself as well.
Totally right about the proprioception and sensory issue. Both visual information and proprioception (among other senses) all contribute to our ability to move coordinately in space, When people go blind they can learn to adapt over time so they rely on proprioception and other sensory information without sight (these other senses compensate), but being truly invisible would actually be the opposite, where you lose the visual information about your body's movement instead. This would provide a significant sensory disability that you would then need to adapt to over time (like losing a part of your vision). Sure, there are blind superheroes etc., but you would still need to overcome the functional loss of that disability.
There is another option to invisibility mechanism that isn't explored here: photons are absorbed by the skin and surface epithelial elements (or photons are passed through those skin/hair surfaces, taking photons that hit the skin in one place and emitting it in another place). I think photons being redirected so they reflect in a chaotic manner when they hit the skin is the most practical (so the reflections off the body cannot produce a coherent picture), but I think most invisibility powers involve changing the entire atomic composition of the body so it doesn't interact with (or at least reflect) visible light at all - e.g. specific wavelengths of photons pass through the body.
I think you could get around the glowing eyes issue. Any light that bounces off internal structures of the body doesn't pass through the exterior layer of the body, so light could only exit out the pupils, right? If light simply enters the pupils in a regular fashion, then most of that light isn't reflected back out the human pupil in a coherent fashion anyway (as opposed to animals like cats), so at most you would just get what looks like a couple of normal pupils hanging disembodied in the air, which would be incredibly hard to see. i mean, c'mon, if a couple of pupils were hanging in the air, only 1% of the time would you notice them - thus giving you nightmares for the rest of your life....
To be honest, I would like to see an invisible but blind superhero.
Like Daredevil but invisible. That’d be nuts.
Remy Jones DAMMIT you beat me to it
Emerald Apple basically an invisible Dare devil
Yeah and they could have a dialogue that goes like
Villain: "How can I hit him if I cant see him?!"
Hero: "I seem to manage just fine."
*proceeds to kick villains butt*
Or something along those lines
Remy Jones
Exactly!
I think I've seen this guy from a Thor porn parody.
I thought he reminds me of another Watch
telephony yes you do
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No need to advertise it where it isn't relevant either
telephony wow dude thats gay
telephony lmao you pissed off a few butthurt people
You don’t need invisibility when you have active camouflage. Even now snipers use a type of active camouflage to hide their position. Also wearing thermo suit can hide your heat signature. Adaptive active camouflage called chameleon shield armor uses photocells and cameras to blend in with the environment just like some animals can do. However you must remain stationary or move very slowly. This technology is used for gathering intelligence through observation or as a camouflage sniper position. You could have a suit and use it as a spy to blend into a room to avoid detection, still motion and infrared beams could still detect you.
There a visual novel where they aplly most of these negatives on being invisible and its really good, the name is Saiaku Naru Saiyaku Ningen ni Sasagu
Jake from Vsauce3 just stole Thor's body
Yeah, he reminds me a lot of Jake, how he talks, how he looks...
Mr.M En Español more like fabio's body
More like Thor's hair
Mr.M En Español I was just going to type that word for word hahah I seen you beat me too it hahahahah😂😂😂
More like Because Science
Don't most people assume that you want invisibility that can be toggled?
I'd hide from people, whenever useful.
So in public when you wanted to hide you’d have to strip off your clothing and turn invisible? That’s sorta weird man
Don't you understand OP's point?
Besides, when you're trying to see, only your pupils need to be visible. Good luck to whoever's trying to spot a pair of tiny black dots that flicker out of existance when they get close to looking directly into them... especially at night.
Taco Cat I didn't say I'd be in public (in the event of a home invasion I'd appreciate being able to hide in plainsite).
Also, you don't have to be naked if your source of invisibility (and temporary blindness) comes in the form of a cloak that you wear and can be taken off
In my opinion a good form of invisibility would be to allow some photons into your eyes as in the bare minimum needed to see but no more.
Your vision would be faint but you could still see somewhat and other people would still be able to see you but they could only see a translucent version of yourself as if you were a ghost.
It wouldn't be true invisibility but if you were skilled enough at stealth people might not really notice you.
The best kind Of invisibility is the power make people unable to acknowledge your existence.
You are not invisible physically, but no one will be able to see, hear, smell or acknowledge any traces you leave behind.
You will stop existing to them.
I don't need THOR telling me what super power I'm not allowed to have 🙃
Thor lost an eye and has short hair
Dual Wielded
finally someone with common sense. btw he got his eye back from rocket in infinity war
May XXXTentacion Rest Forever In Peace ik he did but I don’t count that because getting a fake eye doesn’t count as having your eye back. I still count it as only having 1
May XXXTentacion Rest Forever In Peace he hot when he have long hair 😭😭
Dual Wielded hes talking about norse mytholigy i think
I think you kind of oversold the problem with not being able to see yourself. I mean people go blind and they manage to walk around.
Normally with a white-cane-stick thing.
The cane is more to deal with the fact that they cannot see their environment, not as much to deal with not being able to see themselves.
Exactly he just explained how Proprioception works and it has nothing to do with being able to see one's body
Sure it could probably be annoying at times but I still don't look at my feet when I walk on stairs so why would I suddenly not be able to walk on stairs?
Anduril came here to say this. Blind people manage all the time. Not to mention how your senses don't descend into chaos if you have to navigate a dark bedroom or get soap in your eyes.
It wouldn't be a huge problem, but I imagine reaching for a glass or trying to catch a ball would be a bit more difficult without visual stimulus. Of course we could test this by placing your arm under a board and reaching for a glass - see how hard it is.
In The Invisible Man, he had visible parts in the back of his eyes. Just two small, barely noticeable points. H.G Wells went through some decent work to make it make sense. The snow, rain, and dust points were all brought up in the book. He had to often clean himself off, and he couldn’t travel in snow or rain, or else he would be seen. They also didn’t have any ability to see infrared light at the time of the book being written, so that wasn’t a worry.
One way that it might be possible is that you can control who or what sees you or detects you at will but you can still see yourself, it's just those that you don't want to see that won't see you. That includes lasers, cameras, motion trackers, thermals, etc.
Classic Invisibility without any disabilities: Yes
Invisibility how science describes it: No
But only if I could decide when I am invisible.
Yeah, at first I didn't really care about all the sciencey 'oh but you couldn't see/things would look weird/eyes visible/being naked' stuff. Superpowers aren't supposed to be 'scientifically explainable', they're fictional. And so, all the possible benefits and drawbacks are also governed by fiction, so long as it remains within our suspension of belief. But What I did find to be interesting points of discussion is the thermals and the impact on your mind from not being able to see your own body. While I'll straight up say, he definitely over-exaggerates on how screwed you'd be to thermal sensing, it's definitely something that would still be an issue if someone were to sense thermals. Even if you could stop the thermals from your own body, you'd still be causing irregularities to nearby objects. But then again. Show of hands if you or your workplace use any sort of thermal imaging and would be pointing it at nothing in particular.
The inability to see yourself though, is definitely a real problem. This is something you can already experience in VR games. While almost every game will have your hands readily visible, many of them do not show anything else on your body. Regardless of full body tracking or not, you'd still be able to know where you actually stand if you could see your own body, just by using proprioception, in relation to where your in-game body's legs were, as they're typically straight down from your head, a little bit behind, then with proprioception, you figure out how much you're displaced from that body. But without that, you have no reference.
This /could/ be amended by more fictional description of the invisibility. By allowing one to see oneself, only being invisible to others. But that sort of falls back to the suspension of belief point.
nul You're 100% right about superpowers being fictional and not realistic, but sciencing this stuff out is what determines whether it is possible or not. If we did all this science and figured out, hey, we can totally do this somehow! then boom we've got real superpowers
In Lord of the Ring one can assume there is a sort of additional dimension that mirror our own. I like how its portrayed in grey in the movies ;)
Otherwise great presentation applicable to the Fantastic four, The Incredibles, Star Trek and so on... :)
Its similar to the ghost problem where they walk on the floor yet pass through walls.
Oh and last thing... for the same reason mentionned in this video you don't want Thor glowing eyes or any glowing eyes for that matters. If your eyes emits light then it the only thing you will see. (evil red glowing eyes are blind)
Even with all of this stuff, even with the problems that he described, if you could easily turn it on and off as you want, I think it could be useful. Not to rob a bank or something, but more like to do other little shenanigans. Magic tricks? Sit in a corner and turn invisible for a couple of seconds to avoid eye contact with someone? lol
Answer to problem: buy a magical invisibility cloak. Or inherit it from your long family line were your many great grandpa got one from building a bridge to cheat death. Simple.
I see what you did there but let's not spoil the refrance
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@@haymaker710 you spoiled it! The reference!
@Rachel Liu obvs 😉
@@haymaker710 girls locker room?
It's one of the three deathly hallows
The perfect circle in the bottom of 90% in 4:00 is chefs kiss
3:01 "If I can't see them, they can't see me."
Because Science: don’t be invisible or else you’re blind.
Me: don’t be invisible because the chance of you accidentally bumping into things would be a lot higher
and if you are naked, and cant see your own.... ya know.. you could snag your own... ya know.. .on something... ouch.
Alejandro Garcia true, if you cant obstruct your vision/ close your eyes you cant sleep. then you go crazy. then you die. then lots of people trip over you and fall down stairs.. the mystery of the coincidental stair deaths spreads. the FBI get called in, moulder trips, scully gets out thermal vision... sees your wang..lol
problem is.. no life = no heat = no thermal vision.. you truly are invisible now...
i guess except for some very bloodshot and tired looking lifeless eyes...
conclusion: either way, being naked all the time would have nasty wang related risks and consequences, lol invisible or not.
haha, yeah, i hadnt though about the identification process of the wong... :)
You'd just need to have a totally dark room and you'd be able to sleep fine.
Edit: Also, sleep masks exist.
Have you read The Physics of Superheroes by James Kakalios? I’ll quote then explain it as I understand.
Chapter 23, section What Color are Invisible Woman’s Eyes?
“When [she] becomes invisible, she still absorbs and reflects light in the UV region of the spectrum... Special UV glasses (like the ones Doctor Doom installed in his armored mask) could [shift her visible].”
“This also explains how IW is able to see. ... her eyes... become sensitive to the scattered UV light that bounces off us, and is ignored by our eyes. ... Windows appear transparent to us... However, when Sue is invisible a window will appear as a dark space while other objects appear transparent to her. This mechanism... was suggested in Fantastic Four #62, vol.3.”
Basically, if you can shift your entire body up the color spectrum, your vision shifts with it. If you shift above UltraViolet (hey, that’s why the Incredibles daughter is named that!), you can see people and objects by their bounced UV rays, likely the same way we can see Cinderella’s glass slippers by the slight bounced colors we can see. Also, she can see herself because her pupils shifted up to match her body.
Edit: Question. If infrared reads body temperature, but Sue shifted all her bodily color to be in the UV spectrum INCLUDING her IR, what will that mean for both her bodily temperature and what the IR camera sees?
Local Maple I have the same book, good point to bring up!
Local Maple you sound really smart
Yeah invisibility in the relative human sense. She had a few feats too where she could also bend EM with her force shields as well.
Dubzy FTW I quoted a book. Then gave a layman interpretation.
If you really want to hear how researched-smart I can be, I have a video on my channel disproving ALL of MatPat’s Film Theories on Frozen, using only canon lore/interviews and real life subjects MatPat found acceptable for other theories.
Local Maple thank you for the matpat shit i dislike him but austin is cool on because science. I wish he was still on shoddycast.
To be able to see, not the whole eye should be visible, but just the pupils, which collect the light needed for sight. Also, you need to see just the things in front of you (where you're looking) and not behind. For this reason, only people in front of you would see your pupils floating: they would see two tiny black spots floating in the air, which become unnoticeable if enough distant, and it's a pretty good result.
But I think the best solution would be being able to see in the IR wavelength when you switch to invisibility: you wouldn't need to see in visible spectra (so your eyes wouldn't need absorb these wavelengths) and your eyes as well could be invisible to other people. Also, once you get used to, you can see everything and and everyone (including yourself)
Sounds awesome. You could do this how do you think the blind (i mean fully blind) walk around plus every thing i would want to do can be done even with said limitations