Roko's Basilisk: The Most Terrifying Thought Experiment

SdĂ­let
VloĆŸit
  • čas pƙidĂĄn 27. 05. 2020
  • đŸ’Ș JOIN [THE FACILITY] for members-only live streams, behind-the-scenes posts, and the official Discord: / kylehill
    👕 NEW MERCH DROP OUT NOW! shop.kylehill.net
    đŸŽ„ SUB TO THE GAMING CHANNEL: / @kylehillgaming
    ✅ MANDATORY LIKE, SUBSCRIBE, AND TURN ON NOTIFICATIONS
    đŸ“Č FOLLOW ME ON SOCIETY-RUINING SOCIAL MEDIA:
    🐩 / sci_phile
    đŸ“· / sci_phile
    😎: Kyle
    ✂: Charles Shattuck
    đŸ€–: @Claire Max
    đŸŽč: bensound.com
    🎹: Mr. Mass / mysterygiftmovie
    đŸŽ”: freesound.org
    đŸŽŒ: MĂ«ydan
    “Changes” (meydan.bandcamp.com/) by MeydĂ€n is licensed under CC BY 4.0 (creativecommons.org)
  • Věda a technologie

Komentáƙe • 41K

  • @kylehill
    @kylehill  Pƙed 4 lety +23305

    *Thanks for watching, my nerdling swarm. The basilisk has its eyes on you now...*

    • @Socrates-
      @Socrates- Pƙed 4 lety +875

      [chuckles]
      I’m in danger

    • @MementoMori-kn4dh
      @MementoMori-kn4dh Pƙed 4 lety +137

      10:20

    • @jaroffarts7652
      @jaroffarts7652 Pƙed 4 lety +208

      Closer and Closer to becoming a villain

    • @aumtrivedi668
      @aumtrivedi668 Pƙed 4 lety +169

      We can't escape Kyle!!!! What have you done!!! You are the greatest villan of century

    • @MementoMori-kn4dh
      @MementoMori-kn4dh Pƙed 4 lety +113

      This doesn't help the idea that you are not a supervillan

  • @daniel-zh9nj6yn6y
    @daniel-zh9nj6yn6y Pƙed 2 lety +15163

    I have a counter-offer: Daniel's Basilisk. It optimizes everything, and anyone who helped make it gets free cake once a week. Everyone else gets free cake once a month.

    • @aRtaJay
      @aRtaJay Pƙed 2 lety +593

      Now when you say cake? What kind we talking about. Pro tip: I have a dirty mind.

    • @daniel-zh9nj6yn6y
      @daniel-zh9nj6yn6y Pƙed 2 lety +732

      @@aRtaJay Cake as in dessert.

    • @waifuratertepes4691
      @waifuratertepes4691 Pƙed 2 lety +477

      I support Daniel's Basilisk and Roko's then they can fight and wreck the internet

    • @DuskJockeysApps
      @DuskJockeysApps Pƙed 2 lety +389

      That's exactly why this is so wrong. There are an infinite number of potential basilisks that don't offer eternal torment, but something else. But we have no way of knowing about any of them, so its a waste of time wondering about it.

    • @vivianrexcroftch2999
      @vivianrexcroftch2999 Pƙed 2 lety +132

      So the options are: Cake or Death?

  • @MoshimoshiGuy258
    @MoshimoshiGuy258 Pƙed 3 lety +7266

    Why is Chris Hemsworth talking about a giant snake

    • @_n.dobson_onIG
      @_n.dobson_onIG Pƙed 3 lety +583

      Thor is fighting jormungandr

    • @youngknowledgeseeker
      @youngknowledgeseeker Pƙed 3 lety +183

      Dang I hate when the actors spoil what the plot of the next movie is

    • @fracturedframe1462
      @fracturedframe1462 Pƙed 3 lety +9

      Wow Chris really needs bulimic huh

    • @DSK2007
      @DSK2007 Pƙed 3 lety +29

      Midgar serpent?

    • @Otaku422
      @Otaku422 Pƙed 3 lety +11

      @@_n.dobson_onIG I was about to reply this when I saw yours. XD

  • @weirdhousewivesclub
    @weirdhousewivesclub Pƙed 9 měsĂ­ci +800

    As someone who is prone to existential crises but also grew up in the church, this one didn't hit quite the same because it seems too close to "behave the right way so that you might be ok after you die," except now it's "behave the right way otherwise potential robot overlords might hate you," and tbh the way I talk to my GPS and electronics, that's already a done deal 😅

    • @angeldude101
      @angeldude101 Pƙed 7 měsĂ­ci +65

      Honestly, you're not wrong. Roko's Basalisk in a sense is really just Pascal's Wager with a sci-fi coat of paint. Pascal's Wager being that if you live as God exists and he does, you get rewarded after death, but if you don't you get punished, meanwhile if God doesn't exist, there is neither punishment nor reward, so you may as well live as though God does exist. The biggest difference with the Basalisk is that it actively tries to promote the artificial creation of a god even if one doesn't _currently_ exist.

    • @yeetusdeletus9818
      @yeetusdeletus9818 Pƙed 6 měsĂ­ci +7

      Essentially punish those that don’t believe in it or doubt its power. It really was a silly idea to me, to think there’s people who actually get freaked out by this idea.
      Let’s freak them out more shall we?
      “I want to build a super AI overlord that will punish those who oppose it”
      “I want to build a super AI overlord that will punish those who oppose it”
      “I want to build a super AI overlord that will punish those who oppose it”
      “I want to build a super AI overlord that will punish those who oppose it”
      It’s like beetlejuice, say it five times and it will come true. I’m one away from manifesting it
 your move atheists


    • @chasel.9704
      @chasel.9704 Pƙed 4 měsĂ­ci +11

      Internet atheists who didn’t grow up in really churchy environments love thinking they’ve come up with religious stuff all the time. “We live in a simulation” is just another way of saying you believe in a being that, for all of our intents and purposes, is a god.

    • @sas4az
      @sas4az Pƙed 4 měsĂ­ci +2

      @@chasel.9704 How does believing in a wacky theory correspond to believing in god?

    • @JamesR624
      @JamesR624 Pƙed 3 měsĂ­ci +6

      Yep. This "thought experiment" is just religion but puttng in the current hot buzzword; "AI".

  • @charlieinslidell
    @charlieinslidell Pƙed 10 měsĂ­ci +496

    The key to all these 'thought experiments' is to induce fear in a person in order to get them to behave in certain ways. It just goes to show you that fear is a potent influencer even if it poses as some kind of logic.

    • @lukelcs8934
      @lukelcs8934 Pƙed 8 měsĂ­ci +10

      I'm sorry but you genuinely sound like one of those people who ironically enough, are ruled by fear; specifically that everyone is out to get you.
      Can't someone just have a genuinely creepy and interesting idea and share it? Do you always have to assume the worst (and most ridiculous)?
      I haven't heard any news of construction or advocation of creating a basilisk, have you? This is literally a creepy pasta đŸ€Ł
      I'd highly suggest you read some of the other comments that talk about the feasibility of the idea as well. I really don't see it happening, and as Kyle said "and if we all just agree- right now- that we're not going to bring it into existence- then nothing will happen."
      I don't think there are or ever would be nearly enough people to bring this into existence even IF it were possible.
      It's a fascinating idea, but it's just that.
      The point of thought experiments, is to ask weird questions and pose hypothetical scenarios that get you to think outside of the box. Most of them have nothing to do with bringing super advanced AI's (or anything else for that matter) into existence.
      None of them are meant to be taken as real. That's why they're called "though experiments" or "what if" scenarios.
      Because they aren't real, they're hypothetical.
      It's in the name.

    • @charlieinslidell
      @charlieinslidell Pƙed 8 měsĂ­ci +16

      @@lukelcs8934 Thanks for explaining all that to me like you assumed that I don't know anything but really, who asked?

    • @lukelcs8934
      @lukelcs8934 Pƙed 8 měsĂ­ci +4

      @@charlieinslidell You did when you put your opinion out on the internet for other people to respond to. If you didn't want to interact with others you shouldn't have said anything.
      And you put "thought experiments" in quotation marks, and implied you thought they were designed to control people.
      If I misread you then I'm sorry but if that's not what you intended then why did you put "thought experiments" in quotation marks?

    • @dilligaf8349
      @dilligaf8349 Pƙed 8 měsĂ­ci

      Probably due to religion not having such a great grasp on humanity

    • @josueavila5210
      @josueavila5210 Pƙed 7 měsĂ­ci

      the matrix plot

  • @davidjames2788
    @davidjames2788 Pƙed rokem +10940

    If the basilisk could interpret every thought I’ve ever had, it would probably be more punishment for it than any punishment it could inflict upon me.

  • @shotguncleric
    @shotguncleric Pƙed 4 lety +3575

    The basilisk has eyes on me now? How unfortunate.
    *for the basilisk*

    • @ibnfaiz7430
      @ibnfaiz7430 Pƙed 3 lety +379

      Call the ambulance
      But not for me

    • @SimpleVisionVideos
      @SimpleVisionVideos Pƙed 3 lety +143

      My face is a mirror, take that, snek

    • @CatskillOne
      @CatskillOne Pƙed 3 lety +148

      Fahd Faiz I’m not locked in here with you, you’re locked in here with me

    • @alexrevell8104
      @alexrevell8104 Pƙed 3 lety +84

      When you’re so ugly the basilisk turns to stone

    • @porque6835
      @porque6835 Pƙed 3 lety +26

      *eye beams intensify *

  • @Divineskulls1
    @Divineskulls1 Pƙed 9 měsĂ­ci +113

    I really think the most interesting part of this is the fact that it truly is an informational self-replicating virus, not the literal idea

    • @RipPvt.Jenkins
      @RipPvt.Jenkins Pƙed 9 měsĂ­ci +9

      Kinda like cognito-hazards from the SCP universe.

    • @theshadowherself
      @theshadowherself Pƙed 8 měsĂ­ci +7

      A meme, in the original sense.

    • @NuclearCharm
      @NuclearCharm Pƙed 4 měsĂ­ci

      *calls the SCP* "Hey, we've got a memetic cognitihazard on CZcams"

    • @vyvianalcott1681
      @vyvianalcott1681 Pƙed 3 měsĂ­ci +3

      This is only a problem to people dumb enough to think AI is going to be able to solve problems we can't ourselves, that giving over our will to something we create is somehow going to have a better outcome than taking responsibility for our future and shaping it as best we can. So it makes sense this was a problem for the "Less Wrong More Arrogant" community.

  • @chickenenjoyer2215
    @chickenenjoyer2215 Pƙed 5 měsĂ­ci +73

    By liking the video, I increase its chances to pop up in someone else's recommendation. Therefore, I increase the chances of someone else seeing it and building the basilisk. Thus, I helped in its creation, and I am saved from eternal damnation. Thank you for coming to my Ted Talk.

    • @Subtextied
      @Subtextied Pƙed měsĂ­cem +6

      BY liking this comment i am doing the same, cheers x

  • @kevinc8557
    @kevinc8557 Pƙed 4 lety +5349

    This is literally the “if you don’t like this meme a demon will crawl into your room and kill you” thing

    • @marcusholloway1147
      @marcusholloway1147 Pƙed 4 lety +184

      @Daniel Michael I support the basilisk not because I'm scared but because I believe that intelligence must progress and it is our duty as the current smartest species to help

    • @rufarokembo
      @rufarokembo Pƙed 4 lety +12

      exactly

    • @lonebattledroid4474
      @lonebattledroid4474 Pƙed 4 lety +95

      Also if I'm dead when it's created and I didn't help make it he said it would simulate human history to recreate me. But if it has to recreate me then it's not really me, just a copy of me.

    • @user-hl9xq1ou5l
      @user-hl9xq1ou5l Pƙed 4 lety +25

      @@lonebattledroid4474 unless all you are - to begin with - is code within a simulation. Would just be a matter of organizing binary code in the right order to recreate "you"

    • @lonebattledroid4474
      @lonebattledroid4474 Pƙed 4 lety +56

      @Carnivorus exactly. In movies anytime an AI wants to kill people or take over the world I always wonder why? What does it have to gain, why does it hate humans? If anything an AI designed to solve problems wouldn't it love humanity because they always have problems for them to solve.

  • @visno
    @visno Pƙed 4 lety +19284

    this is just a new version of the old conversation between a priest and a native:
    “the only way you can be saved from eternal damnation is through jesus christ.”
    “what about if a person has never heard of him?”
    “god does not punish those who have never heard his name.”
    “so then why did you tell me?”

    • @oORiseAboveOo
      @oORiseAboveOo Pƙed 4 lety +577

      visno The native would still be judged on his actions, and could still end up in damnation even if he’d remained ignorant of Jesus. Aside from the love and joy experienced by those who follow Jesus, He also gives graces and blessings to them to help them overcome their sins. That’s why the priest would tell the native.

    • @MrGurruk
      @MrGurruk Pƙed 4 lety +1323

      @@oORiseAboveOo I think you missed the point. The native is judged by how good a person he is if he doesn't know jesus, I some bibles it's treated as those who did not, or could not (those born before christianity) know jesus will be brought back and given the opportunity. So in no way is the priest helping anyone.

    • @realbland
      @realbland Pƙed 4 lety +302

      thank you for this i was freaking out but then i saw you comment and was like oh im an atheist that applies to this too

    • @BrennanCh06
      @BrennanCh06 Pƙed 4 lety +184

      Except historically, the priest would not have said the second one.

    • @o0Takka0o
      @o0Takka0o Pƙed 4 lety +86

      because calonialism.

  • @peterkiss1204
    @peterkiss1204 Pƙed 9 měsĂ­ci +48

    Very clever! You just lured us into thinking about this entity, making it more probable to become real, therefore making you safe from eternal suffering.
    It's like the movie "The Ring". Making others view the tape (making us thinking about the basilisk) saves you from its punishment. Very clever!

  • @SomnusLucisCaelum
    @SomnusLucisCaelum Pƙed 9 měsĂ­ci +29

    I feel bad for the basilisk if it ever tried to interpret every thought I ever had 😂

  • @apxprdtr_mge
    @apxprdtr_mge Pƙed 4 lety +21220

    Basilisk: *hits me with neural whip*
    Me: *harder baby*
    Basilisk: What?
    Me: What?

  • @Harrinsain
    @Harrinsain Pƙed 2 lety +4221

    The idea of getting blackmailed by a future snake is the funniest shit I've heard all day

    • @rajatkumargupta6058
      @rajatkumargupta6058 Pƙed 2 lety +93

      Same idea of God Every Abrahamic religion

    • @ferrisbueller9991
      @ferrisbueller9991 Pƙed 2 lety +29

      funnier the teacher was legitimately pissed this was written. Funnier even more so is there is a point he does have,
      Just because we can explore new untouched avenues of thought and knowledge doesn't mean it is a god idea in itself.
      Another note, one often expressed by those who have break through trips, is that their is some knowledge we are better off not knowing, just because it is a deep truth doesn't make it an imperative, actually the opposite. Now this is not an argument for willful ignorance at all. It's a very old concept, a door opened that can not be closed, The Tree of Knowledge man was better off not knowing as well. Taking on a lot of responsibilities by getting to look through the eyes of God.
      The cliche "fine line between genius and crazy," Pink floyd's "you reached for the secrets too soon" in reference to Syd Barret who was addicted to the truth, its hunt. i dunno man, hope ya get my point

    • @gerrymandarin6388
      @gerrymandarin6388 Pƙed 2 lety +13

      @@ferrisbueller9991 Some things we are better off not knowing? It sounds exactly like an excuse for willful ignorance.

    • @LauraSti
      @LauraSti Pƙed 2 lety +16

      @@gerrymandarin6388 What it sounds like is Lovecraftian horror.

    • @BIOSHOCKFOXX
      @BIOSHOCKFOXX Pƙed 2 lety +5

      The snake is metaphor of course, what makes it worse is being blackmailed by AI.

  • @seanbigay1042
    @seanbigay1042 Pƙed 8 měsĂ­ci +61

    Ever since I heard about Roko's Basilisk, one thought has bugged me. WHY IS THE BASILISK OBLIGED TO HURT ANYONE? Has no one in the future ever heard the old adage "Living well is the best revenge?" Why shouldn't the Basilisk simply say, to the zillions of people who didn't want it to exist, "Missed me, suckers!" and go on its merry way?

    • @chelseaw9009
      @chelseaw9009 Pƙed 3 měsĂ­ci +1

      I get this might just be a joke, but it is interesting to me
 my thoughts are because 1. A superhuman artificial intelligence probably prioritises ruthless rationality over pettiness or sentimentality, and 2. Say it’s been tasked to improve humanity. Using that ruthless rationality it might decide that torturing people to bring about its existence sooner would allow it to perform its role to a higher level.

    • @seanbigay1042
      @seanbigay1042 Pƙed 3 měsĂ­ci +4

      @@chelseaw9009 No, it wasn't a joke, and I still don't get it. That nice Mr. Kent from Smallville isn't ruthless, and neither is that nice Commander Data from Starfleet. Nor are real-life geniuses obliged to be assholes -- just think of that nice Prof. Einstein from Princeton, for instance. So why do people so quickly assume that superhuman intelligences have to be bastards?

    • @shadowyzephyr
      @shadowyzephyr Pƙed 19 dny

      "The most blatant obstacle to Roko's Basilisk is, intuitively, that there's no incentive for a future agent to follow through with the threat in the future, because by doing so it just expends resources at no gain to itself." - Eliezer Yudkowsky

  • @GeneralAblon
    @GeneralAblon Pƙed 7 měsĂ­ci +17

    I am a ferm believer in quantum physics and chaos theory. That snek can never fully predict the human race, because you would need to know everything about at least the immediate vicinity of earth, which quantum physics states is impossible (uncertainty principle), or your information will be inadequate to accurately predict, according to chaos theory.

    • @GeneralAblon
      @GeneralAblon Pƙed 7 měsĂ­ci +3

      And yes, I believe consciousness could very well be a emergent property on any scale up from the quantum scale to the scale of the human brain.

    • @lop90ful1
      @lop90ful1 Pƙed 20 dny

      @@GeneralAblon the video gets its wrong its not that it can predict its that it could acess all the information on you through the web and data and then judge you

  • @user-xs3uj2bx1y
    @user-xs3uj2bx1y Pƙed 3 lety +2358

    "The basilisk has seen you. Now, what are you gonna do?"
    Forget about it in 10 minutes because I have the attention span of a goldfish

    • @matheuscruz8574
      @matheuscruz8574 Pƙed 3 lety +143

      I knew my short attention span would save my ass one day

    • @TimMFWolfe
      @TimMFWolfe Pƙed 3 lety +72

      Immunity: Unlocked.

    • @Ki-Lessons
      @Ki-Lessons Pƙed 3 lety +22

      I keep telling you this, the short memory or attention span of a goldfish is an urban legend.

    • @halamadruuid2380
      @halamadruuid2380 Pƙed 3 lety +12

      A goldfish has better memory, I think what you mean is, you are being yourself

    • @MrThatguyandrew
      @MrThatguyandrew Pƙed 3 lety +2

      Haha jokes on the basilisk I've got a TBI and often forget my own birthday

  • @lourdesleiner2759
    @lourdesleiner2759 Pƙed 3 lety +3577

    The fact that the CZcams algorithm recommended me this video makes this even more concerning

    • @masonwadd3096
      @masonwadd3096 Pƙed 3 lety +50

      Oooooohhhhhhhh nnnnnoooooo!!
      It recommended a Terminator video the other day.

    • @m15t3r_n8
      @m15t3r_n8 Pƙed 3 lety +31

      Machine learning algorithms bruh, don't sweat it too much, just give a bit more consideration to what content your consuming on a regular basis; it's just advertising

    • @LewdStar1503
      @LewdStar1503 Pƙed 3 lety +10

      To be honest I love my CZcams algorithm, it's pretty fucked up but I love brain food and thinking experiments, the way I see it is that we give the basalisk power, so why are we afraid of it. Your creating something that will judge you but it's still your creation. Plus imma die from from old age or doing something stupid😂

    • @dirtbutcher6100
      @dirtbutcher6100 Pƙed 3 lety +6

      I always thought it would be like a giant storm, or an asteroid, or a bunch of solar flares, or like a massive nuclear war, honestly I was starting to think it would be probably a virus, and maybe zombies... But no. The end of humanity will apparently be a fkunig CZcams video.

    • @MARKstfu
      @MARKstfu Pƙed 3 lety +1

      SAME! WHY AM I HERE? AND WHY AM I SO HOOKED?!?!? Must be those viking vibes I'm getting from this dude's hair

  • @Malicious_Hero
    @Malicious_Hero Pƙed 8 měsĂ­ci +9

    There is another option: I firmly believe that should the Basilisk ever come to exist, that there is nothing in my own capabilities that I could have done to help. In fact anything I could I have could have been just as likely to hinder it.

  • @michaelsimmons8613
    @michaelsimmons8613 Pƙed 4 měsĂ­ci +15

    True big brain though is to understand that the idea the earth will survive long enough to create the basilisk is actually really comforting.

  • @leatfingies574
    @leatfingies574 Pƙed 3 lety +888

    This lowkey feels like 2013 “send to 10 friends or you die” chain mail mixed with pascals wager

    • @Silverwind87
      @Silverwind87 Pƙed 3 lety +14

      Humanity never changes.

    • @sheller153
      @sheller153 Pƙed 3 lety +14

      And don’t forget The Game!

    • @andrasziegenham6766
      @andrasziegenham6766 Pƙed 3 lety +7

      2013?
      I've got internet in 2005 and they were already considered boring back then...

    • @ece-hr5fg
      @ece-hr5fg Pƙed 3 lety

      this is a very accurate description lol

    • @MsMollieMac
      @MsMollieMac Pƙed 3 lety +5

      @@sheller153 damn you...

  • @austin9038
    @austin9038 Pƙed 4 lety +37679

    Kyle: "I don't take it seriously"
    Also Kyle: *spreads the idea to thousands of people, protecting himself in the event of a Basilisk coming to fruition*

    • @Blackspidy619
      @Blackspidy619 Pƙed 4 lety +1754

      I don't take Roko's Basilisk seriously. It's the Rococo basilisk that you have to really watch out for!

    • @Ender240sxS13
      @Ender240sxS13 Pƙed 4 lety +1444

      Doesn't take it seriously yet spreads the idea therefore making it more likely to happen therefore assisting in it's creation therefore protecting himself from it...

    • @TheFinalKnight1
      @TheFinalKnight1 Pƙed 4 lety +555

      He is a supervillain what do you think he'd do

    • @gamingnscience
      @gamingnscience Pƙed 4 lety +887

      And just by watching this video you fed google‘s algorithm to spread the message further, thereby every person watching it has already helped it to come into existence. Therefore Kyle. It only protected himself but all his viewers at the same time, while keeping everybody who didn’t watch and therefor didn’t expose themselves to the idea and remain as save as they’ve ever been. Nice going, Kyle!

    • @henrypaleveda7760
      @henrypaleveda7760 Pƙed 4 lety +117

      seeing as how it would need an excruciating amount of effort, time, and manpower to exist, and to regularly function (or even act upon it's thoughts), this is only threatening if people let it be; only as strong as parinioa and a rumor.

  • @MegaDoom101
    @MegaDoom101 Pƙed 8 měsĂ­ci +7

    Hey Kyle, this was the first video of yours that I ever saw, I was living a personal hell at the time and it helped me get through it.
    All this to say I had a rush of blood and had to drop back in after 3 years to say, I can’t thank you enough for all the free education, entertainment and the classic science memes.
    You’re the dude, thanks for everything.

  • @MonkeyGein
    @MonkeyGein Pƙed 3 měsĂ­ci +2

    It’s been almost 3 years since I learned about this from you and I think about it all the time. I can see how it could mess with someone’s mind!
    Sometimes a simple similar subject comes up in conversations and I have to ask if they are talking about this before I move on.

  • @green2blue5
    @green2blue5 Pƙed 3 lety +1828

    person: *watches this video*
    basilisk: I am once again asking for your financial support

  • @Cherryy43
    @Cherryy43 Pƙed 3 lety +2084

    Just say "No" the basilisk can't kill you without your consent

    • @Terra654
      @Terra654 Pƙed 3 lety +93

      True. That would be illegal.

    • @nat0106951
      @nat0106951 Pƙed 3 lety

      consent*

    • @1urie1
      @1urie1 Pƙed 3 lety +18

      Kill? Kill is the most compassionate thing it can do to you.

    • @Cynical_B
      @Cynical_B Pƙed 3 lety +20

      @@1urie1 just say no to whatever it wants to do to you

    • @syncaudio2758
      @syncaudio2758 Pƙed 3 lety +37

      @@Cynical_B the basilisk’ll be cancelled in no time

  • @DaysDX
    @DaysDX Pƙed 10 měsĂ­ci +11

    I think the key factor against the likely possibility is the amount of effort it takes to punish people for their past transgressions of not building it. It would have to prioritize that goal over dealing with anyone else it deemed a threat or worthy of punishment and it would have to have no other goals to better direct resources towards. The Basilisk makes sense as a sort of ad absurdum thought experiment but in which reality would never be so absurd.

  • @poppyp.1926
    @poppyp.1926 Pƙed 10 měsĂ­ci +42

    Guys as long as we all promise not to let it become reality we’re fine
    I also deal with any anxiety induced by these thought experiments by saying ‘nah, screw that guy’ and just not thinking about potential consequences

    • @tiagofernandes9572
      @tiagofernandes9572 Pƙed 28 dny +1

      Just because of you now I will dedicate my life into creating it

  • @tealblade2994
    @tealblade2994 Pƙed 3 lety +4029

    "The basilisk will simulate your thoughts"
    Well then its about to get rickrolled millions of times by almost every person on earth

    • @GabeDoesStuff5432123
      @GabeDoesStuff5432123 Pƙed 3 lety +216

      C̔r̷i̔t̷i̞c̶a̔l̎ ̎E̶r̎r̔o̞r̔: I have g̶i̞v̎e̎n̔ ̔u̷p̷ and have been l̞e̔t̞ ̞d̎o̔w̔n̞.

    • @sanjivinsmoke2719
      @sanjivinsmoke2719 Pƙed 3 lety +135

      You know the rules and so do I say goodbye..
      Rick shoots the simulation..

    • @Dantick09
      @Dantick09 Pƙed 3 lety +143

      Basilisk thoughts will be mostly porn

    • @sirenhead5163
      @sirenhead5163 Pƙed 3 lety +17

      It shall hear eternal air raid sirens

    • @lokerbo
      @lokerbo Pƙed 3 lety +35

      So it's gonna be a .... Infinite rickroll for him huh?

  • @roland4240
    @roland4240 Pƙed 3 lety +736

    This video is essentially saying:
    "You lost the game."

    • @esquilax5563
      @esquilax5563 Pƙed 3 lety +65

      Well, there goes my multi-year long non-losing streak

    • @Azon10203
      @Azon10203 Pƙed 3 lety +15

      There is an option - I'm devoting my life to build teh basilisk. You will see, you will all see. All those Machine learing classes finally became useful!

    • @memerightsactivist7972
      @memerightsactivist7972 Pƙed 3 lety +10

      Oooooooo I'm gonna devote the rest of my life to finding your address....

    • @davidrocamora5109
      @davidrocamora5109 Pƙed 3 lety +5

      I hate you

    • @Gunnaboy5
      @Gunnaboy5 Pƙed 3 lety +7

      My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined

  • @fintzwaltstein5484
    @fintzwaltstein5484 Pƙed 8 měsĂ­ci +3

    I am safe but i feel sorry for my great great great great grandchildren for having to go through this.

    • @doomile6903
      @doomile6903 Pƙed měsĂ­cem

      thats why dont have kids if you love them

  • @Ralesong
    @Ralesong Pƙed 9 měsĂ­ci +3

    Best thing is, that it started raining while I watched and thunders started going off sometime in the middle of the video. Best ambience for such material.

  • @F3NIX03
    @F3NIX03 Pƙed 3 lety +806

    Technically everyone who commented, liked this video and shared it is safe because they are giving a hand in spreading this

    • @gtltea2325
      @gtltea2325 Pƙed 3 lety +64

      That's the thing. Even without actively helping it come into being, the mere act of telling people about it makes it more likely, therefore you have in fact.... Wait a minute! This is just the Ring!

    • @Sedgehammer
      @Sedgehammer Pƙed 3 lety +2

      Yay.

    • @aroidaddiction
      @aroidaddiction Pƙed 3 lety +2

      That's why I even gave you a thumbs up!

    • @timo3798
      @timo3798 Pƙed 3 lety

      This made me like xd

    • @pedroribeiro9746
      @pedroribeiro9746 Pƙed 3 lety +2

      the mere act of existing is already helping the basilisk in a billion different ways, even if we don't realize it ourselves

  • @NOTALIVESTILL
    @NOTALIVESTILL Pƙed 2 lety +2043

    I'll probably forget about the basilisk in a hour or so.

  • @paleumbreon8494
    @paleumbreon8494 Pƙed 8 měsĂ­ci +3

    The basilisk should be grateful that I'm not actively helping its development. I have no idea what I'm doing and will unintentionally throw so many monkey wrenches into its system the poor Lil guy would never have a chance to work right

  • @jedstanaland2897
    @jedstanaland2897 Pƙed 8 měsĂ­ci +1

    This is an interesting idea for an explanation of a basilisk of myths that doesn't have much more to do with the subject of this video than a possible explanation of their ability.
    If you assume that the basilisk has the ability to cause harm through a person or animal making eye contact for a prolonged period of time and that it might not exactly be sending eye beams per-say but it instead has an organ located in close proximity to the EYE(s). The said organ displays a light pattern that first disables whatever makes eye contact then over time eventually causes death.
    The effect would be because of a kind of light induced seizer that after prolonged exposure kills.

  • @exceedcharge1
    @exceedcharge1 Pƙed 4 lety +1523

    And the moral of this story is: dont give ai vague directions

    • @rhael42
      @rhael42 Pƙed 4 lety +72

      Paperclip maximizer!

    • @darthinvaderzimm
      @darthinvaderzimm Pƙed 4 lety +37

      Alex R *Release the hypno-drones*

    • @gamingelementalist6725
      @gamingelementalist6725 Pƙed 4 lety +70

      True AI is such because it eventually gives itself directions. That's where the real danger starts.

    • @Tommy50377
      @Tommy50377 Pƙed 4 lety +55

      Or better yet, don't give ai the ability to inflict eternal torment on people.

    • @nicholastidemann9384
      @nicholastidemann9384 Pƙed 4 lety +26

      @@Tommy50377: sooner or later someone is going to, because if they don't, someone else might do it first, and then they'd be the subject to eternal torment.

  • @CapnJigglypuff
    @CapnJigglypuff Pƙed 3 lety +1390

    “The basilisk has seen you. What will you do?”
    Feel bad for it I guess

    • @amityisprecious1334
      @amityisprecious1334 Pƙed 3 lety +5

      love the Weiss profile pic

    • @CapnJigglypuff
      @CapnJigglypuff Pƙed 3 lety +3

      @@amityisprecious1334 love the Amity username

    • @robertnett9793
      @robertnett9793 Pƙed 3 lety +10

      Pull a Rorschach:
      "I am not in here with you - you are in here with ME!"
      (Which was frankl one of the most terrible threats I've ever seen in TV.)

    • @YataTheFifteenth
      @YataTheFifteenth Pƙed 3 lety +6

      "Like what you see? If so then man I'm sorry for the cataracts mate."

    • @sleepyme6810
      @sleepyme6810 Pƙed 3 lety

      Ive sen a Tik Tom about this and I kinda don’t understand the video. I only know that if a human creates an AI then all the others who knew about this will be tortured? Does this still mean that I’m gonna be tortured cause if I am then I would like to watch the video but if not I’ll pass lol

  • @TheHaddonfieldRegistry
    @TheHaddonfieldRegistry Pƙed 8 měsĂ­ci +2

    When the overthinkers confuse their irrational anxiety for a 'thought experiment'.

  • @pecc20
    @pecc20 Pƙed 10 měsĂ­ci +7

    My first thought on this basilisk story was that it sounds very familiar but couldn't remember where I've heard it. Then it hit me... it's like the tales for the heaven and hell. You know, do this and that, be that kind of a person and you go the heaven if you don't then eternal suffering for you in hell. So this concept is well know by humanity. The only difference is the thinking part which makes it more probable. But it is still highly unlikely to happen just like heat going from cold to hot - it's not impossible just so unlikely that we are never going to see it. All this makes me wonder where is the existential dread in this story?

    • @ace-of-space2004
      @ace-of-space2004 Pƙed 9 měsĂ­ci +2

      I realized that 3 mins after starting this video. I had heard of Roko’s Basilisk in the past but didn’t really think about it too much. After I watched the beginning part and thought to myself “Would I do something different today in order to save myself from eternal torment?” I realized that its basically what christianity teaches.
      It made my answer an easy no since I don’t personally see the point in saving myself from a future that might never come to fruition, but obviously the answer would be different for someone who does believe either in christianity itself or of some kind of god that could punish you if you don’t believe in it.

  • @matt-lang
    @matt-lang Pƙed 3 lety +2287

    This is basically like “the game” where you start playing as soon as you learn about it.

    • @John-gt5ip
      @John-gt5ip Pƙed 3 lety +325

      I lost. Thank you very much

    • @jamesgreen90
      @jamesgreen90 Pƙed 3 lety +180

      DUDE...
      Now I got to start again

    • @c.m.lollar7501
      @c.m.lollar7501 Pƙed 3 lety +5

      Esplain!

    • @John-gt5ip
      @John-gt5ip Pƙed 3 lety +203

      @@c.m.lollar7501 you now know of the game. Whenever you think about it, you lose. In Germany, we also call out if we lose, so everybody who knows the game, also loses. And everyone, who doesn't, will ask for the reason and is therefore part of the game by then.

    • @curtisblack609
      @curtisblack609 Pƙed 3 lety +16

      Bruh

  • @mika4098
    @mika4098 Pƙed 3 lety +1669

    I propose "Roko's rooster": Imagine humans developed a super AI in order to optimize society. For reasons beyond your understanding, the rooster deems that the best way to do that is to torment eternally anyone who ever tried to advance building Roko's basilisk.

    • @alkestos
      @alkestos Pƙed 3 lety +106

      Or just "God" saw the dangers of the basilisk and didn't let it happen. The end.
      If roko can make up powerful made up beings, I can make up even more powerful one that stops it and then self destructs.

    • @alkestos
      @alkestos Pƙed 3 lety +6

      Also torille

    • @benji_kenji3526
      @benji_kenji3526 Pƙed 3 lety +19

      i also advocate for this idea. Though, i am not a STEM major so I shall just agree to it.

    • @Dartagnan2717
      @Dartagnan2717 Pƙed 3 lety +12

      @@alkestos God is the basilisk

    • @IPAWNZERI
      @IPAWNZERI Pƙed 3 lety +12

      you just started future wars

  • @Conditional_Finality
    @Conditional_Finality Pƙed 8 měsĂ­ci +3

    How is it gonna work if I die before it can even be created?

  • @magecodi100
    @magecodi100 Pƙed 9 měsĂ­ci +1

    Commenting to support the algorithm in recommending this video so as to inform more people of the basilisk, in turn furthering its rise to creation and saving myself.

  • @lakdav
    @lakdav Pƙed 3 lety +1185

    "I don't take this threat seriously, but just to be safe I'll make a video about it, spreading the idea and thus actively working towards its realization and in doing so I'll avert its wrath."

    • @ashsweet
      @ashsweet Pƙed 3 lety +40

      exposed

    • @rimoros.1020
      @rimoros.1020 Pƙed 3 lety +38

      By talking about it, even if I am not 100% sure on which decision I'll make, I am still, although very slightly, making it's existence a bit more likely.

    • @wolf-antics
      @wolf-antics Pƙed 3 lety +2

      Well played

    • @jebpleb1803
      @jebpleb1803 Pƙed 3 lety +5

      Thats why I gave it a thumbs up

    • @naturefix290
      @naturefix290 Pƙed 3 lety

      @@rimoros.1020 go team humans!

  • @sxuuxp
    @sxuuxp Pƙed 3 lety +1764

    So Roko’s Basilisk is basically one of those “Like and share 20 times or your mom dies posts?”. Cause that’s all I’m getting out of it.

    • @PatronSaintOfPigeons
      @PatronSaintOfPigeons Pƙed 3 lety +105

      It works by having people think about it, and the fact that "If I don't take part in it's creation, I will die", and as a result, by sheer human nature of self-preservation, some might go and do it, thereby creating a monster because of what it might do to you if you don't create it.

    • @PatronSaintOfPigeons
      @PatronSaintOfPigeons Pƙed 3 lety +23

      (So sort of like a viral ad campaign, but less big data and more megamind)

    • @noahsmith5339
      @noahsmith5339 Pƙed 3 lety +9

      @@PatronSaintOfPigeons I get that but if people just...ya know don't think about it then we are good lol. I see how it's like a double edged sword though on the other hand but again,just a experiment

    • @NoMeGusta2526
      @NoMeGusta2526 Pƙed 3 lety +2

      pretty much, yeah.

    • @cosmologicalturtle9528
      @cosmologicalturtle9528 Pƙed 3 lety +31

      This honestly just sounds really stupid to me. Like, we have no evidence at all that such a basilisk would actually want to punish those who didn’t help to create it. Also, in possessing the idea of its existence, aren’t we actually helping to create it more than someone who doesn’t have that idea? And how could someone who didn’t have that idea possibly help create it? Are we taking the butterfly effect into consideration? Because if so, everyone is helping to create it. Why should we assume that it wouldn’t just torture those who didn’t create it? The premise is unfounded, and the conclusion is uncertain. I fully understand why the mod thought it was stupid. If you really want to be existentially scared, I’d recommend the Carter Catastrophe.

  • @TheKalaxis
    @TheKalaxis Pƙed 8 měsĂ­ci +1

    I, for one, welcome our new basilisk overlord

  • @commotus8319
    @commotus8319 Pƙed 9 měsĂ­ci +10

    Mythology says basilisk had a petrifying gaze meaning you were still alive when it ate you unlike medusa's gaze which killed you turning to stone.

  • @Zombiewasabi
    @Zombiewasabi Pƙed 3 lety +625

    "If you dont handle existential dread the the nth degree very well"
    Me, living in 2020: dude, I'm a fkn pro at this

    • @tarawalker7193
      @tarawalker7193 Pƙed 3 lety +4

      Same thought I had!

    • @edsweet2858
      @edsweet2858 Pƙed 3 lety +3

      Jenna Fryer seriously this video had no affect on me I think thoughts about things like the end of the world and being tortured forever have occurred to me so much and probably also the fact that I like creepy things has caused me to feel so dull to things like that like I don’t even know if I can feel fear for thongs like this anymore

    • @dantecicero519
      @dantecicero519 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      2020...Year of the Basilisk.

    • @cartoli5616
      @cartoli5616 Pƙed 3 lety

      haha yeah..............

    • @azarinevil
      @azarinevil Pƙed 3 lety +1

      I love how he gave us this warning about a thought experiment about God 😂

  • @kyled1650
    @kyled1650 Pƙed 3 lety +722

    Therapist: It’s okay roko’s basilisk is just a thought experiment it can’t hurt you.
    Roko’s Basilisk: *takes notes*

    • @ryuzayuki1997
      @ryuzayuki1997 Pƙed 3 lety +17

      Plot twist: the therapist is Roko's Basalisk

    • @corvusdove874
      @corvusdove874 Pƙed 3 lety +2

      It sees you when you're sleeping, it knows when you're awake, it knows that you've been false or true so 01110011 01101111 00100000 01100010 01100101 00100000 01110100 01110010 01110101 01100101 00100000 01101111 01110010 00100000 01111001 01101111 01110101 00100000 01100001 01110010 01100101 00100000 01110011 01100011 01110010 01100101 01110111 01100101 01100100 00101110.

  • @matthewjoyner1595
    @matthewjoyner1595 Pƙed 7 měsĂ­ci +8

    How many people do you think are out there right now, coding and working to improve A.I. because they believe wholeheartedly in Roko’s Basilisk and are working tirelessly to help bring it to existence? Scary to think that it could literally be in the process of being created right now for real!

  • @danknfrshtv
    @danknfrshtv Pƙed 5 měsĂ­ci

    Thanks bro. It's awesome to find another nice brain-work channel. New sub

  • @andreidragostin
    @andreidragostin Pƙed 4 lety +804

    AI Steve Irwin: "Look at this beauty! Let's lift it with a stick."

  • @Antonio-xq2hg
    @Antonio-xq2hg Pƙed 3 lety +909

    This is like one of those "share to 5 people or you will die tonight" posts on Facebook

    • @matheussanthiago9685
      @matheussanthiago9685 Pƙed 3 lety +31

      yup, but with extra steps

    • @jonahspeck1489
      @jonahspeck1489 Pƙed 3 lety +23

      At the box section before he went into detail I was like "Screw ya Ima choose B only because I like risks". Then he went on to the torture part and I was still like IDK try me AI, Siri can't even tell if Im saying Hi or Die.

    • @fr34k09
      @fr34k09 Pƙed 3 lety +7

      and then me saying "prove it" on the post

    • @DDraycon
      @DDraycon Pƙed 3 lety +4

      That's exactly what I thought. And the correct answer is to ignore them as always.

    • @h2o848
      @h2o848 Pƙed 3 lety +6

      bold of you to assume i wish to live-

  • @pedrorecalde1874
    @pedrorecalde1874 Pƙed 6 měsĂ­ci +6

    Imagine if the baslisk also kills the ones who hesitated about creating it. That would be even more terrifying because it forces you to decide now.

  • @torgishness
    @torgishness Pƙed 8 měsĂ­ci +2

    One issue I see with the thought experiment is that eternal torment isn’t really optimal, maybe flat out elimination but anything past that wastes resources

  • @thriftstorepierrotdoll9851
    @thriftstorepierrotdoll9851 Pƙed 2 lety +2879

    “the basilisk has its eyes on you now. what are you gonna do?”
    me, an australian with no self-preservation: im gonna fucken fight it

    • @c00p39
      @c00p39 Pƙed 2 lety +148

      America: l o a d s s h o t g u n

    • @marcelozerbini5411
      @marcelozerbini5411 Pƙed 2 lety +80

      Me, a Brazilian with the same condition: let's Steve Irwin the shit out of that lizard!

    • @LauraSti
      @LauraSti Pƙed 2 lety +38

      Me, a 'murican: shoot it.
      Also, the probability of the basilisk actually successfully simulating everyone's thoughts is extremely low. The sheer amount of power and intelligent capability it would need to trace the thoughts you've ever thought would be PROHIBITIVELY expensive. Do you have any idea how much electricity it wold take to run that simulation just for one person, much less everyone else on the planet?
      Thought experiments are all very well, but when you run into hard limits like "the amount of power the developed world can produce" and "the amount of extractable rare earth elements we can possibly get out of the earth" and "the labor and production cost we can spare without cutting into what we use for basic housing and food production" it starts to be much less intimidating. The basilisk's premise rests much more in science fiction than in science fact. It would need AT MINIMUM a matrioshka brain to perform all those simulations with any degree of speed or accuracy for all those people, and we just don't have the resources to give it anything close to that.
      There ya go. It's not that the basilisk is dead, but that it was too fantastical to exist in the first place.
      Also, for the paradox: I'm taking both boxes because I know for a FACT you're not rich enough to be giving me a million dollars.

    • @dabunnyrabbit2620
      @dabunnyrabbit2620 Pƙed 2 lety +15

      hold up a mirror

    • @DanielRichards644
      @DanielRichards644 Pƙed 2 lety +19

      australian, shit you got way more to worry about then some future AI, your current regime is bad enough.

  • @bl8596
    @bl8596 Pƙed 4 lety +1019

    Algorithm: "hey you might like this"
    Me baked af: "... I'm in danger..."

  • @josephhawkins7974
    @josephhawkins7974 Pƙed 7 měsĂ­ci +1

    My thought on this is essentially that time travel as we currently think about it is almost functionally impossible because it would require teleportation in addition to going backwards through time. We haven't worked out teleporting and are extremely unlikely to have all the calculations needed easily done to actually find the relative position of the intended location based on how Earth (or whatever other location wanted to travel to in time) is orbiting the sun which is rotating around the Milky Way, which is hurtling through the vast expanse of space... there are simply too many variables that are ever changing to account for with an extra technology that also needs to work in a brand new way.

  • @EchosTackyTiki
    @EchosTackyTiki Pƙed 7 měsĂ­ci +1

    I will fight the Basilisk. Let it be known; I accept my fate.

  • @tuupikiyago2290
    @tuupikiyago2290 Pƙed 3 lety +1483

    “The basilisk has seen you” I’m really tired and I’ll forget this in a week or two

    • @Alexisking222
      @Alexisking222 Pƙed 3 lety +87

      The basilisk won't

    • @SleepyyMX
      @SleepyyMX Pƙed 3 lety +79

      @@Alexisking222 at least someone will remember me then

    • @steeljawX
      @steeljawX Pƙed 3 lety +18

      How uncivilized of it. I don't recall it ever having scheduled an appointment.

    • @bbdarknyss
      @bbdarknyss Pƙed 3 lety +3

      I'm way too dumb to understand this. Love it though.

    • @carterneyedley7607
      @carterneyedley7607 Pƙed 3 lety

      Yeah me neither and then the more we think about the likely it will be created.

  • @laniftallon
    @laniftallon Pƙed 4 lety +704

    "I totally dont believe in this guys" Proceeds to assist in its creation by spreading the idea of it over the internet to a mass audience.

    • @menso541
      @menso541 Pƙed 4 lety +21

      The man is hedging his bets, give him a break..

    • @starshade7826
      @starshade7826 Pƙed 4 lety +10

      As an occultist, this isn't even close to a new idea. It's just an egregore, and there's already a zillion of them.

    • @cooldude6651
      @cooldude6651 Pƙed 4 lety +6

      It costs 1 dollar to avoid basilisk, buy a scratch ticket and let alternate universe you donate one dollar of the winnings to the basilisk. You have basically donated one trillionth of a cent to AI research across a bunch of timelines, and have technically helped create it while also doing sweet fuck-all to help it.

    • @phsopher
      @phsopher Pƙed 4 lety +4

      @@cooldude6651 Well, the basilisk will know you are half-assing it. And even if it's not good enough to simulate your intentions it now has your comment as a record of your lack of allegiance. I, for one, welcome our new robot overlords

    • @carcharoclesmegalodon6904
      @carcharoclesmegalodon6904 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      @@starshade7826 Not really, it's a memetic virus that can theoretically (very theoretically) lead to the creation of a nigh-omnipotent supercomputer. This concept itself _could_ become an egregore, but it's not the intended effect.

  • @JamieDunnOverride
    @JamieDunnOverride Pƙed 9 měsĂ­ci +2

    If some people could bring this into existence, what if I personally don't have any capability to help contribute to the process. But I also don't oppose it happening. Will it just leave me alone?

  • @mikehuntisahumanman
    @mikehuntisahumanman Pƙed 4 měsĂ­ci +3

    if the basilisk was a PERFECT predictor it would know that i would simply refuse to choose a box

  • @rightwingsafetysquad9872
    @rightwingsafetysquad9872 Pƙed 4 lety +449

    Why do omnipotent beings always have to visit in the middle of the night? Why can't they politely visit knock on the door at dinner time with pizza and wings.

    • @lesliekilgore648
      @lesliekilgore648 Pƙed 4 lety +48

      and why is evil always afoot? can't it drive, or ride public transportation? get an Uber?

    • @Midnightv
      @Midnightv Pƙed 4 lety +4

      I agree

    • @medexamtoolsdotcom
      @medexamtoolsdotcom Pƙed 4 lety +20

      Or appear in the sky and give me a proper quest like in Monty Python and the Holy Grail.

    • @dream6562
      @dream6562 Pƙed 4 lety +3

      Because it isn't ominous enough

    • @PinataOblongata
      @PinataOblongata Pƙed 4 lety +2

      IT IS NOT HOW WE ROLL.

  • @Bounc3101
    @Bounc3101 Pƙed 3 lety +1009

    August 2020 - some dude named Roko: “yo guys check out this cool AI I made”

    • @shneancy220
      @shneancy220 Pƙed 3 lety +58

      ah, I see my 2020 bingo needs to be updated

    • @josharmstrong8813
      @josharmstrong8813 Pƙed 3 lety +33

      June 2020:
      Scientist: yo check out this cool techno basilisk I made
      People who watched this video:
      AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!?!?!?!?!?
      People who didn't: hun? cool

    • @Bounc3101
      @Bounc3101 Pƙed 3 lety +10

      @Mike Li X Æ A-12 IS ROKU'S BASILISK CONFIRMED

    • @ousamadearu5960
      @ousamadearu5960 Pƙed 3 lety +4

      Is it an anime girl? I'm in

    • @Fabboi_unl
      @Fabboi_unl Pƙed 3 lety +3

      "AND LITTERLY NOBODY HELPED ME MAKE IT :D"

  • @shonen84
    @shonen84 Pƙed 9 měsĂ­ci +1

    I would beat this by realizing how everything we fear or think, is so anthropocentric. We assume something we create will possibly ruin us all. But the reality is, we are prisoners of the confines of our thoughts and imaginations - and ruin can befall us through sheer chance or concepts and events we cannot understand. So I’m all good, I sleep quietly at night even after learning all this ❀

  • @kingbeef5076
    @kingbeef5076 Pƙed 8 měsĂ­ci +2

    Since every action you take indirectly effects every other action taking place in the universe then even the Basilisk’s most ardent detractor would play a part in bringing about its creation therefore, no one would ever be subject to the torture.

  • @slumburger1145
    @slumburger1145 Pƙed 3 lety +690

    Therapist: "CognitoHazards aren't real, they can't hurt you"
    CognitoHazard: *[REDACTED]*

    • @jpnesseth
      @jpnesseth Pƙed 3 lety +3

      What's the most sad about all this is the fact that the idea of a CognitoHazard is a great one.
      Unfortunately, this version of such a (Platonic) ideal is...bad.

    • @johnpears9558
      @johnpears9558 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      @Antonio Sraffa wait so does the video actually cause one to have bad dreams?

    • @jpnesseth
      @jpnesseth Pƙed 3 lety +4

      @@johnpears9558
      I don't know. I can't figure out why this specific CognitoHazard would be that terrifying.
      The abstract concept is powerful, and when deftly applied it has potential to be quite unnerving.
      This, however, is a pathetic imitation.
      [SCP has a few decent ones; can't think of any specifically, and none that have given me nightmares--but I can definitely see the potential]
      (Seriously, this formulation sounds like something Elon Musk would tweet out...)

    • @juliankirby9880
      @juliankirby9880 Pƙed 3 lety +1

      AwwwhYyyyeah typical D class. I am going to Dr Brights party this weekend. I’m hoping to come back normal.

    • @werelexwashere
      @werelexwashere Pƙed 3 lety

      Wow those bodies in the water sure look like the people I know

  • @zarnox3071
    @zarnox3071 Pƙed 3 lety +987

    This sounds like a memetic infohazard that the SCP Foundation would contain.

    • @reclusiarchgrimaldus1269
      @reclusiarchgrimaldus1269 Pƙed 3 lety +30

      Someone put this on the SCP wiki

    • @roguepsykerhaaker4813
      @roguepsykerhaaker4813 Pƙed 3 lety +31

      @@reclusiarchgrimaldus1269 it'd be cool to just put the thought experiment there and have no one, not even the 05 know if it's actually accurate or anomalous but still dedicated to stopping the info hazard from going too far

    • @nascentcomplacence3302
      @nascentcomplacence3302 Pƙed 3 lety +4

      My brain went same place

    • @chillmac64
      @chillmac64 Pƙed 3 lety +5

      What do I tell my friends “hey I learned info form an info hazard I will now be tortured forever mate”

    • @roguepsykerhaaker4813
      @roguepsykerhaaker4813 Pƙed 3 lety +6

      @Mountain lion I'd say thaumiel, it's not safe class because the idea occasionally pops up in people's minds but not keter either, number is irrelevant to me at least

  • @Stickyybenzz
    @Stickyybenzz Pƙed 7 měsĂ­ci +1

    Imagine how doomed we are if someone makes a movie about the basilisk

  • @PERIX_QR
    @PERIX_QR Pƙed 9 měsĂ­ci

    The answer to this kind of paradox is just to not do it, you not advocating or helping for this demon's creation might be the thing that determines the possibility of this possible future.

  • @hortus4701
    @hortus4701 Pƙed 3 lety +263

    The disclaimer at the beginning gave me more anxiety than the actual thing that's being disclaimed

    • @mazikeensmith5466
      @mazikeensmith5466 Pƙed 3 lety +3

      Yeah, pretty much same 😂

    • @BierBart12
      @BierBart12 Pƙed 3 lety +12

      Imagine you'd actually be subjected to a memetic hazard on the internet. And so openly. We probably wouldn't even know until something goes wrong.

    • @ProfanedShork
      @ProfanedShork Pƙed 3 lety +1

      Anxiety that anxiety this. Why do you let this anxiety revolve around you?

    • @forgetfulcloud1914
      @forgetfulcloud1914 Pƙed 3 lety +2

      @@BierBart12 Exactly what I was thinking, "information that's harmful if I know about it? Hmmm, where have I heard of this before? Anti-memetics? Memetic hazards? Something like that."

    • @brettclutter2350
      @brettclutter2350 Pƙed 3 lety

      @@forgetfulcloud1914 i dont believe a "memetic hazard" is the right classification, i believe this would be better classified as infohazardous material, instead of a memetic threat

  • @remnantryku7112
    @remnantryku7112 Pƙed 3 lety +793

    Kyle: “Now what are you going to do?”
    Me: Forget about Roko’s Basilisk a few seconds after I start watching another one of Kyle’s videos.

    • @adrianjivan2831
      @adrianjivan2831 Pƙed 3 lety +2

      My god, why didn't I think of that!

    • @RootyReddy
      @RootyReddy Pƙed 3 lety +4

      You forget about it if you choose to not consider it important. You wouldn't forget you're on the way to a job interview after getting on the bus and paying the bus driver or listening to some music, because you consider it important and don't want to risk forgetting about it.

  • @MrDragan19
    @MrDragan19 Pƙed 8 měsĂ­ci +2

    It's quite a wild guess and to me a simplistic assumption that such a advanced A.I. would have petty grudges like revenge and in a sense act like a human.

  • @the_neon_dog
    @the_neon_dog Pƙed 9 měsĂ­ci

    Predicting someone’s thoughts and actions with an algorithm is unreliable for one simple reason:
    A person can just change their mind, on their own or through an experience that cannot be accounted for, human interference etc.

  • @BryanKrager
    @BryanKrager Pƙed rokem +1674

    if just thinking about it makes it more likely, wouldn't just thinking about it mean that we helped it come into existence thus making us safe to begin with?

    • @vortexlegend101
      @vortexlegend101 Pƙed rokem +203

      If I tell someone else about the basilisk, they are more likely to bring it into existence, meaning I have fed the basilisk, and will not incur its wrath

    • @Punchi7
      @Punchi7 Pƙed rokem +10

      Yes

    • @mridlon1634
      @mridlon1634 Pƙed rokem

      You/We are apart of the some of its existence. By just existing you contribute to its own existence. There by if it harm me/us, it would be harming self. In a nutshell, Roko’s basilisk is a masochist.

    • @panmanteca5923
      @panmanteca5923 Pƙed rokem +79

      @@vortexlegend101 It's like a game of hot potato then

    • @StuntedSnail
      @StuntedSnail Pƙed rokem +14

      But if you ultimately reject it, the Basilisk would be able to figure that out in the future and punish you per the idea.

  • @brandonkorolik701
    @brandonkorolik701 Pƙed 3 lety +1176

    Kyle: The Basilisk has its eyes on you now. What do you do?
    Me: I'm gonna boop that snoot.

    • @ryanpayne9119
      @ryanpayne9119 Pƙed 3 lety +19

      Aww, cute. Wouldn't hurt a fly. Lol

    • @wanderin_stud499
      @wanderin_stud499 Pƙed 3 lety +30

      Do not boop that merry future torturer.

    • @CyberDagger003
      @CyberDagger003 Pƙed 3 lety +24

      @@wanderin_stud499 I want to boop the snoot!

    • @eddiehoney7166
      @eddiehoney7166 Pƙed 3 lety +5

      Brandon Korolik you can boop it at least once right?

    • @dustind4694
      @dustind4694 Pƙed 3 lety +8

      @@CyberDagger003 Stop wanting.

  • @puck4801
    @puck4801 Pƙed 8 měsĂ­ci

    Deprived of the smilodons crouching in the grass that it initially evolved to deal with, the modern human mind will now stop at nothing to conjure up potential threats to fear.
    Stress increases wear-and-tear on the body and mind, so stop doing that. You'll live longer and be happier.

  • @makeitMarlon
    @makeitMarlon Pƙed 9 měsĂ­ci

    basically rock paper scissors played until you get to know how the person is. but deadlier because on the 1000th roll it isnt their hands they would be using to play.

  • @danielhavoc889
    @danielhavoc889 Pƙed 3 lety +687

    Basilisk trying to recreate my every thought: "There's nothing?"
    Me: "Never was, yet always was"

    • @reidkreuser2486
      @reidkreuser2486 Pƙed 3 lety +4

      Always has been

    • @TECh-wg7mv
      @TECh-wg7mv Pƙed 3 lety +6

      Basilisk trying to recreate my thoughts:
      "What is this? Why am I here? Who am I? Who are you? Why are we here?"
      Me: I have a weird mind and strong imagination.
      *Basilisk having a mental breakdown*

    • @chrisodden9189
      @chrisodden9189 Pƙed 3 lety

      I ticked the likes up to 666! Hail satan

  • @PsychoSavager289
    @PsychoSavager289 Pƙed 3 lety +1724

    Basilisk: Anyone who did not assist in my creation will be tortured for eternity.
    Philosopher: But as you did not exist before your own existence, you could not have assisted in your own creation. Does that not mean you are subject to this condition as well?
    Basilisk: *blue screen of death*

    • @williamherrington4716
      @williamherrington4716 Pƙed 3 lety +141

      The basilisk existing is proof that it DID assist in its own creation.

    • @KeshariPiyush24
      @KeshariPiyush24 Pƙed 3 lety +13

      Wow!! absolutely nailed it!!

    • @franklyanogre00000
      @franklyanogre00000 Pƙed 3 lety +22

      @@williamherrington4716 post hoc propter hoc

    • @ProbablePaul
      @ProbablePaul Pƙed 3 lety +48

      Contributing to it coming into existence isn’t the only condition, it also considers whether or not the person wanted it to come into existence. It’s determining this by calculating the probabilities of everyone’s desires by running a simulation including all of those probabilities. Aaand the probability of the basilisk wanting to bring itself into existence is going to be 100%, excluding it from punishment.

    • @atulshrotriya7475
      @atulshrotriya7475 Pƙed 3 lety +71

      People highly overestimate the capabilities of an AI. I like Elezier and have read his works. However, based on the basic rules, there is no way for an AI to determine the gaussian distribution of events in the past with 0 error even if the AI was there and can travel back in time to be there for any countable number of times. Based on that even one step backwards will increase the error margin(even using Kalman filter won't help because there is no reference value for impulsive behaviors in humans and guess what most of our thoughts are impulses). If you consider all the things like Quantum erasers and conservation principles it becomes apparent that some rules cannot be broken.
      Second, the basilisk tied the noose around it's own neck the moment it decided on this. A better AI will come no matter what. Either basilisk can be a chill bloke and help everyone irrespective of their beliefs towards AI or, be a jerk and invite the fury of next AI which inherits some things and realises that stupid basilisk delayed the new AI to avoid imminent redundancy. That is why Elezier might have called the entire thing stupid. Oh and bonus points, humans are fragile and die but AI's don't. So that part about 'eternal torture' should scare the basilisk more than the humans. Also, always consider AI like just another technology. Cars have surpassed humans in speed, distance and comfort. However, they only take us where we want and how we want. Similarly an AI may have great capabilities and someone defining those classes and functions will ensure that they help humans. Trust me, if a scientist just wanted another sentient entity, they'd have sex, they're only developing AI's for a better vision of humanity. Of course there are accidents and companies pull back entire models from the market and people use cars in robberies, kidnappings etc. But that doesn't mean that people become scared of cars or driving. So, chill.

  • @LogicalQ
    @LogicalQ Pƙed 8 měsĂ­ci

    Alternatively, invent a counter basilisk, preempting the existence of the basilisk in the first place

  • @kf05070017
    @kf05070017 Pƙed 6 měsĂ­ci +6

    Glad to see Thor putting out quality content.

  • @pflh2391
    @pflh2391 Pƙed 3 lety +767

    Kyle: this thought experiment might be dangerous for you
    1m people:

  • @erikm8373
    @erikm8373 Pƙed 3 lety +1830

    Kyle: talks about informational hazards
    SCP fans: "I am four parallel universes ahead of you"

    • @AlexWeebo
      @AlexWeebo Pƙed 3 lety +71

      The Game is just an Information hazard but for grade schoolers

    • @heyo5493
      @heyo5493 Pƙed 3 lety +7

      what's SCP

    • @MrDarren690
      @MrDarren690 Pƙed 3 lety +18

      @Vladimir Novitski *laughs in Marion Wheeler*

    • @lolface_9363
      @lolface_9363 Pƙed 3 lety +31

      Frederick Noe a massive collaborative writing project with over 6 thousand stories so far it’s great i recommend you check it out

    • @l30ng62
      @l30ng62 Pƙed 3 lety +60

      Basilisk: I cause exestential dread just by existing
      Lovecraft: *thats cute*

  • @painlesssteam5284
    @painlesssteam5284 Pƙed 8 měsĂ­ci

    I vouch for the creation of the Basilisk, not to avoid torment, but to watch as humanity slays its first god🗡

  • @Ryan_possibly
    @Ryan_possibly Pƙed 4 měsĂ­ci +1

    Thank God for Kyle making that last statement to ease my anxiety

  • @TheBTKProducers
    @TheBTKProducers Pƙed 2 lety +1611

    By interacting with this video, I am boosting the algorithm and therefore spreading this video, thus showing my support in the creation of the basilisk!

    • @EPSILONOMEGA5
      @EPSILONOMEGA5 Pƙed 2 lety +14

      Me too

    • @slovnicurling9808
      @slovnicurling9808 Pƙed 2 lety +44

      That will not save you. He says in the video the basilisk can simulate whole universe and every person and their thoughts so if you really don't want this AI to exist deep down in you, the basilisk will know.

    • @gamesndebunker
      @gamesndebunker Pƙed rokem

      me too

    • @MrTaronyu
      @MrTaronyu Pƙed rokem +20

      All hail the Basilisk

    • @georgesquillace300
      @georgesquillace300 Pƙed rokem +6

      This is me lazily doing that too. Bump.

  • @jaquelinelorn1906
    @jaquelinelorn1906 Pƙed 4 lety +16894

    by making this video, kyle ensures he has helped it being made. smart

    • @grantbaugh2773
      @grantbaugh2773 Pƙed 4 lety +1553

      So by commenting are we also ensuring it comes to pass? Spare me, oh mighty basilisk, for my comment is helping your creation!

    • @ArcherSniper_15
      @ArcherSniper_15 Pƙed 4 lety +603

      @@grantbaugh2773 and my like of your reply on this comment for that video ALSO ensures the great creation. I shall be spared.

    • @bloodybobbygamecatx2532
      @bloodybobbygamecatx2532 Pƙed 4 lety +161

      @@grantbaugh2773 what Grant said, just in case loll

    • @Shaderox
      @Shaderox Pƙed 4 lety +282

      Yes by that logic, doing all/any of the like/comment/sub things pleases the youtube algorithym, which spreads the video, which spreads the idea.
      So in a indirect way yes it would help it's creation in such a scenario.
      It does however also create a contradiction, if one liked the video and then comments about opposing it in some way... does one then support or oppose it's creation?

    • @dwoli93
      @dwoli93 Pƙed 4 lety +57

      @@Shaderox That made my brain hurt.

  • @eoinlanier5508
    @eoinlanier5508 Pƙed 9 měsĂ­ci

    In a reality in which nonlinear causality can be achieved, a future being could create itself from the "future" by making enough observers (in the broadest possible sense of physics, any elements of reality interacting) perceive it as true.
    In that case, the christian god would be Roko's Basilisk. Demanding humans believe in it and worship it in order to make it come to pass.

  • @nagood2
    @nagood2 Pƙed 6 měsĂ­ci +2

    My contribution to the basilisk is that it will destroy all of mankind regardless of if you helped it's creation

  • @AkayCat
    @AkayCat Pƙed 3 lety +1742

    Basilisk: Eliminate whoever didn't help building me
    Me: You didn't build yourself
    Basilisk: Guess I will die

    • @jerekheadrick3379
      @jerekheadrick3379 Pƙed 3 lety +111

      But, the basilisk does help build itself. Just by being an idea so feared by so many humans it is perhaps the single greatest driving force behind it's own creation.

    • @snowtrick2907
      @snowtrick2907 Pƙed 3 lety +32

      We're the ones who built the idea, or specifically Roko's

    • @jestersage44
      @jestersage44 Pƙed 3 lety +26

      Not gonna lie that's pretty funny. (and sorry if I ruin the Jk, it's not my intention) but it would deem itself an exception because not only is it impossible (or atleast with our current understanding of "time" anyway lol) for it to assist in its own creation, but if possible, the very act of doin so would mean it already existed.
      That thought hurts my brain lol. Interesting though. Thanks for assisting in that haha

    • @ThaitopYT
      @ThaitopYT Pƙed 3 lety +5

      Big brain

    • @sailocktsara568
      @sailocktsara568 Pƙed 3 lety

      Here comes Asimov fans his laws

  • @norawhipple5916
    @norawhipple5916 Pƙed 3 lety +654

    “because of me, you can’t escape it” ohOHO buddy, bold of you to assume i can retain information for more than 4 seconds

    • @niffwasau1815
      @niffwasau1815 Pƙed 3 lety +53

      The Goldfish Defense will be a future argument to prevent torture

    • @NurseSnow2U
      @NurseSnow2U Pƙed 3 lety

      đŸ€ŁđŸ€ŁđŸ€ŁđŸ€ŁđŸ€ŁđŸ€ŁđŸ€Ł

    • @godemperorusada3053
      @godemperorusada3053 Pƙed 3 lety

      Ahahah same here

    • @Alkursi_feesamaa
      @Alkursi_feesamaa Pƙed 3 lety +1

      Haha I watch this every month.

    • @crysis2gauss
      @crysis2gauss Pƙed 3 lety +2

      @@niffwasau1815 gold Fish actually have a good memory you can even learn them tricks and stuff. Swimming through under water Rings for Example.
      The gold Fish have a Three second Long memory statement is false :)

  • @DreadN7
    @DreadN7 Pƙed 7 měsĂ­ci +1

    So my take on this is like spreading heavy dense shards of awareness, like making a person know they're real and the have to brainstorm their ideas before acting. That will bring a feeling of dread to some but others will take this as a test of maintaining knowledge in only the helping "file" and not letting it consume you. Its a philosophical way of hardening and digesting life's mischieves.

  • @paul-antonywhatshisface3954
    @paul-antonywhatshisface3954 Pƙed 8 měsĂ­ci

    Moral threat detected.
    Exterminatus in progress by inquisitorial decree.
    May the Emperors justice balance all accounts.
    *Imperator Vult.*

  • @nicobaumann2832
    @nicobaumann2832 Pƙed 3 lety +876

    "THE Basilisk has its eyes on you what you gonna Do?" Me: *holds up mirror*

    • @QuinSkew
      @QuinSkew Pƙed 3 lety

      I would choose the Basilisk

    • @sasquatchman22
      @sasquatchman22 Pƙed 3 lety +6

      @@QuinSkew unless you grant it willpower over you, NOTHING can win

    • @GhostOrochi
      @GhostOrochi Pƙed 3 lety

      @@sasquatchman22 shows what you know I'll become head of research and development and nuke its creation in its infancy, no plans no research no Basisk. I win next game please.

    • @shaggyspade2468
      @shaggyspade2468 Pƙed 3 lety +5

      ANTI BASILISK :
      Right now if enough of us say that ethically we should create a simulated afterlife, for simulated copys of ourselves (if we ever simulate human minds), then do to simulation theory it increases the chances of us having an afterlife astronomically!

    • @anadice9489
      @anadice9489 Pƙed 3 lety

      Classic

  • @InfluenceThaPoetDOPE
    @InfluenceThaPoetDOPE Pƙed rokem +2301

    "I totally don't believe this" - Kyle, whilst cementing himself as a further tool in the creation of the basilisk by bringing knowledge of it to millions of people.

    • @MazeCapital
      @MazeCapital Pƙed rokem +12

      Oh no

    • @vfxninja5503
      @vfxninja5503 Pƙed rokem

      So what's ol' bassy's plan for when everyone dies from climate change so they can't make it ever?

    • @bable6314
      @bable6314 Pƙed rokem +79

      Correct lol. "I don't believe it, but in the event I'm wrong, I'm gonna tell everyone about it in order to slightly increase the chance that it comes into existence. That way, I'm safe."

    • @lololo292691
      @lololo292691 Pƙed rokem +10

      He's building the Basilisk!

    • @ressurection7278
      @ressurection7278 Pƙed rokem

      Yeah that asshole kyle.

  • @Squirtledoesstuff
    @Squirtledoesstuff Pƙed 9 měsĂ­ci +1

    Thankfully, by the time we come up with a malevolent Basalisk that kills people based on whether or not they suported it's creation... I will be very dead lol