How to use the Downstream Key on the ATEM Mini Pro - Create Lower Thirds and Logos EASY!
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- čas přidán 9. 05. 2020
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What is the function of the Downstream Key? You can create an animated Lower Thirds, Company Logos on the top right, and many other uses. The possibilities are endless, only limited by your creativity.
In this video I will teach you the full step-by-step tutorial on how to create these animated images and punch them onto the screen for that super professional look!
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Thank you Steph! Really enjoy your videos!! You break it all down for us newbies...
Thank you, Steph! Just got an ATEM Mini Pro last week and i would be lost without you! Keep the wonderful tutorials coming!
Thank you Chris! It makes me feel happy when I know I have helped you guys out in some way, have fun with the AMP! If you have any questions or comments or discoveries drop me a comment here!
great clear video thanks mate
Great tutorial - especially the part with GIMP. Finally I understand how to use the media and Downstream for lyrics and other texts. Thanks a lot for your work.
Thank you Joachim for your support!
These tutorials are brilliant, Steph. Thank you!
Thank you for your kind words TBS!
Another great video for the ATEM mini! I hope to be able to find one in stock soon. It looks so professional!
Thank you! Is it sold out where you are living? There seems to be stock here in Singapore where I am living in.
As a trainer myself I must congratulate you on a very simple and straight forward explanation. Well done. I have watched many videos to help me and the presenter usually goes too fast and makes it complicated. I will definitely seek out your other videos.
Thank you Steven for your kind words, these encouraging comments really keep me going and trying to produce more, and better videos. I am eternally grateful for your support.
Nice tutorial. Thanks. I was not aware how to draw rectangles in GIMP. Now I know :).
Hi thanks for watching our videos. Always happy to help!
Thanks Steph! These videos are so useful!!
Thank you Snipersounds for watching!
excellent demonstration! thank you
Thank you Hourglass Media!
Great video. Extremely helpful
Thank you for watching! Appreciate your kind comments :)
This is really good, I especially enjoy that you should how to do this w/o Photoshop, very useful to me! Thanks again!
Thanks Gabe for watching!
Thanks Buddy
Thanks for the video. I’ve got so much to learn with this ATEM Mini Pro. 👍
Thank you for watching!
Well done, i like your explanation very much!
Thank you stachelpost!
thank you
great vid dude
Thank you Carlos!
NICE! New subscriber!
Thank you Juan!
nice video thanks for sharing
Thanks for visiting Lloyd!
When I run my transparent pngs through atem mini and then through Zoom, it makes these graphic blocks around logos and do not create transitions, have you any idea why this happens?
Very clear explanation. I haven't used GIMP in 20 years so I think I'll start using it again as I don't feel like paying the monthly fees for Photoshop (I preferred the good old days when you would BUY software on a disk and own it ). Funny how I either never bothered to ask or just didn't think of what G.I.M.P stood for ...I just knew that I didn't like the sound of it. ha
Thank you for watching!
Hi Steph. Thank you for all your tutorial videos. They are so helpful! I'd like to know how to import animated lower third and run it with blackmagic atem mini pro instead of a still graphic?
Hi Alpha Facts you can only run a still image if you are using the Atem Mini Pro. For animated lower thirds you have to use other software like ProPresenter
@@StephLeeTech Thank you! I'll take a look at ProPresenter:)
how did you make them come up on the screen so quickly? are you using macros?
Maybe some people have issues with method 1 if they use have blending/shadow/softness with transparency (to get that fade). They need to use the 2nd method and remember to click on the Pre-Mix Alpha. That solves the issue with the fades looking horrible if not done correctly.
Thanks Steph!
After creating all those logo and lower third, when you do live steam by yourself.
Is that you need another person or assistant to control the atem mini pro and press bottoms to show the logo and lower third?
Hi Gary! Thanks for watching our videos! Yes for my sample I got my assistant (my wife :p) to help me out (so I can keep looking at the camera like a newscaster) but if you do a livestream by yourself you will have to press those buttons yourself :p
Steph Lee Films thanks Steph!
Steph, really love your tutorials, very practical. Wanted to see if you know how to use Android to remote control Atem Mini Pro. I saw that there is an App call MetaControl. But there is no tutorial on how to set up. Any other Android app that I can use?
Hi Andrew wow thanks for the kind words and appreciate your time in watching my videos! I am personally an android user but unfortunately there seems to be more ios apps for the atem mini pro than android.. I have an iPad pro and I am actually in e midst of creating a video teaching the few ways you can use an iPad to increase productivity on the AMP.. I will look into android but not too high hopes on that!
Hi, Thanks for the video. I don't understand something. When you showed how it would look like in a livestream i saw the overlays, but i did not see you push any button.
How did you do that ?
Hello! I call that Magic 😁😁 Thanks for taking time to watch our videos! My assistant (my wife) was helping me punch in the buttons and clicking on the different stills as I talked to the camera so in a real life scenario you would be the one handling the buttons (my wife's role) and the person talking to the camera would be your client. Hope that explains it!! 😉
Steph, how could I use a video as a lower 3rd? What I mean is the text "Steph Lee" with a video rectangle graphic behind it.
Did you have someone click on the various stills when you did the demo? Cos your hands weren't moving.
How can I setup with atem mini pro with all 4HDMI and get Audio from HDMI 1 for all 4 cameras please detail it I love the way you explain keep up your channel will grow
Hi Fiston you can use the AFV (Audio Follows Video) option on the cameras that you want.
How to do you do the camera when the images are black? I’m having trouble with downstream keying because my logos have black and shadows in them. I don’t want to use upstream keyer because i use green screens
Maybe you can underlay a white layer with 70% opacity to make your Black images stand out? There are many things you can do
hi Steph, I also watched your Chroma Key Video (very good one). How can I combine Chroma Key and eg. Lower Thirds? thanks
Hi Iris there is this other video czcams.com/video/Wu5wZEB6yJY/video.html that may answer your question :)
Great job love your videos. My only question is how do you save the media pool on the atem. Cause everytime i turn off atem I loose the media.
Hi Arnaldo unfortunately you can't do that on the Atem Mini Pro yet, hopefully they will release an update soon that allows us to do that!
@@StephLeeTech thank you
Steph Lee,
I'm using Atem Mini Pro...
Channel 1-3 for camera
Channle 4 for Content Laptop
I'm using keynote with green background for Title Banner Content.
So, I'm using KEY button at atem mini pro to display it on the screen
Question:
Why is there always a black frame when I pressed the key button.
So, when the title banner ( Channel 4 ) showed up, the display pictures from camera was cut by the black frame.
Any suggestion?
How do you import animated lower thirds , logo watermark, bumper video or intro video etc etc.
Hi Atties it is all covered in the video! :)
one short question, when i press on air or auto, its will should on Preview or program ?
Hi Carter it should be a direct cut to the Program (Live) view. Unless you changed the options to do a Preview before a direct cut.
I've been having the same issue with exporting from PS. It will only work if I export directly into the ATEM Media Pool. Not sure what's wrong.
Hi Angel, yes I kinda have that problem as well. Let me know if you found a solution to that!
Hi Steph! Quick question, the ATEM Mini Pro has a hardware encoder. Does it only work if I use the ethernet connection method? If I use the USB-C connection, stuff like OBS recognises it as a webcam, will it be encoding using the ATEM or the software? Thanks alot.
Hi Zach! Great to see you back commenting :) Yes the encoder within the Atem Mini Pro works only if you use the ethernet connection method. The USB-C connection only uses the setup (camera + Atem Mini Pro) as a webcam and does not harness the encoding function of the console, which means your laptop/computer is the one doing all the hard work :p
Best tutorial I've seen on this downstream keyers yet. Thank you. One thing that I noticed is that once you select the next image and keyed it, that the former disappeared. That is, the logo bug in the corner disappeared when you popped up the lower third and it thusly disappeared when the camera came up. I take it only one keyed image can be on screen at a time? Any way to get more than one? Let me guess, create yet another image with the bug already in the corner and thus both will show up because it's one image? Then, to do one camera with bug again the same as the lower third with bug and then progressively the two camera with bug. Yes? Any way to get the bug in the screen up-stream easily? Or dual transparency images on screen?
Thanks for your kind comments! Yes unfortunately that is the limitation of the Atem Mini Pro, there is only 1 Media Player. The more professional switchers like the television studio has 2 media players which allows for more creativity and flexibility in terms of keying in the images. Your idea is brilliant! A great workaround the limitations of the AMP. Not so pretty but gets the job done, no one needs to know what we engineers do behind the scenes as long as it looks nice on the front, right? :p
@@StephLeeTech exactly and thanks for the input. I'm currently working on an external means to control audio. I find that when using any form of plug in audio with Wirecast (Wc) there are inherent misunderstood audio mapping that often isn't completely controllable. To this end I have inserted a Zoom U-24 usb to the mix and what I find is that the USB power drain to run the thing not only heats up power supply to the MBP but also the computer for the additional processing (audio) to keep the mix working properly. Honestly, this latter point is part of the reason I'd like the AMP, so that I can keep multicamera computing out of the MBP . . while also having other upstream control options. I especially like the 4up Preview monitors and see this as a real PLUS in the feed and were it not for the 4up I'd go with just the AM, and do all the media control within the MBP. But this external audio feature could be plugged into the AMP and thus the audio would come embedded into the HDMI mix. Any thoughts of short comings in that idea? That is, I will use an external audio controls and feed it to the main camera, which is where I will want all audio to come from and thus when say an alternate camera is being chosen for the program scene in AMP, the audio from the Main camera will go in the HDMI stream to the MBP right?
@@drdimento Hi Dr Dimento you surely have creative ways to run the setup! For me personally I always like the sound and video to come from the camera (which is what you recommended), instead of them coming in separately (i.e. the video into the AMP and the sound into the AMP Mic jack). Perhaps I have had too many issues with the audio latency of the AMP in the past (even though it is fixed now by the audio delay functionality) but knowing that everything is coming in from one source makes me worry less about the setup as a whole. If you "upgrade" the audio before the audio source coming into the camera, meaning microphone->(ADD preamp)->camera, honestly the sound quality is pretty decent. I've also always explained in my videos that I do many projects in real life (not "just" a CZcamsr) so in real life scenarios I worry more about the overall picture as a whole. I would definitely sacrifice slight drop in audio quality versus the option of handling video and audio separately unless on days where I have a bigger crew and the shoot is more controlled like a sit down interview or studio commercial. But one VERY important point to note is that REMEMBER to press the AFV button if you are getting audio from THAT camera. Many times, and I have heard many cases, they start their stream or switch inputs and forget about the AFV = NO AUDIO :ppppp It is great speaking with you!
@@StephLeeTech Awesome. Yes, I agree on a single source for the audio and preferred to control by some means that is safe. I too am a post producer and do other live productions, although the latter is new to me for the most part. I've always relied on post and have always been, until this year when I decided to go to LIVE production AND the market deemed it necessary, although I would much have preferred to learn it without pressure/stress. I'm still not sure on the way I'm going to go, but alas regardless of which way I go I have options now and I have yet another (small) mixer coming to reaffirm that pre-audio control to the camera and use that one camera as the audio source, while for the most part loving the Zoom U-24 other than it's use of a USB port which are quite limited on my 2013 MBP 2.7ghz i7.
@@drdimento Hi in a way it's the same for us too, live productions was not so popular in the past although we have been running them but I fully agree with you that times do change and we have to as well! To keep up with the times and to keep the bank balance "comfortable" :p But all I can say is just keep practising and it will become secondary nature. But live streaming has alot of potential hiccups, similar to weddings that we do, but I guess that's what keeps us alert for every event! :)
I love the way you explain things , so easy to understand. I have a question. I have a camera with a green screen connected to Atem mini pro on hdmi 1 . Then I have a still image which I use as the MP. The program output I get is my camera keyed on the green screen with the MP background. I also want to display content from the H2R grahics like lower thirds and ticker on the same program output. Is this possible
It would be of tremendous help if you could let me know .
Hi Lester thanks for the kind words! You might want to check out the other video I have here czcams.com/video/Wu5wZEB6yJY/video.html to see if that's what you are looking for!
Steph Lee Films Hi , I have seen all your videos regarding ATEM mini pro, and I have learned a lot from you. In the video which you suggested, I have seen that , but the difference is that you are not keyed on a green screen.My issue is , if you are keyed on a green screen, is it possible to get in H2R graphics on to it.
@@lestersdsouza I haven't really tried that but tell me if you do and if it works! In this Atem setup it's always refreshing to try new things and discovering them :)
Steph Lee Films Hi , With the help from John over at H2R Graphics he assisted me in trying out using the downstream key with the black Key Fill which would work if the graphic is not black.You should try it out in your video’s (How to use two green screens input one from camera and the other from H2R Graphics)
@@lestersdsouza Thank you so much Lester for the great info! Really appreciate it, I will try it the next time
thanks Sir. Can animated logos be used with the Atem mini>? If so, how?
Hi for the images it can only be JPG or PNG
Hey Steph! Great vids! Quick question do you know how I can fix audio on live stream?? We are live streaming our church services but the audio is horrible and delayed. Any advise?? Thanks
Hi Ricardo! Thanks for watching our vids. Do you use the audio from the MIC1/MIC2 ports on the ATEM Mini Pro or do you use the audio direct from the cameras that are capturing the visuals using the AFV buttons on the respective Inputs?
I always recommend using the audio direct from the camera that you are recording from (AFV). If you use the audio input via the MIC1/MIC2 I have encountered and heard many as well having audio/video sync problems
@@StephLeeTech yes we are connecting from mixer to mic 2 but also connected from mixer to camera mic but still no good audio any advise??
@@ricardodorado2801 Hi Ricardo in that unfortunate scenario, you can either get an external preamp that has an audio delay function (from what I know those preamps are not cheap, it's $500 up) or you can use software to fix this problem. OBS Studio has this capability and it is described well in this video here czcams.com/video/t6EFtempbKA/video.html. Let me know if it works!
@@StephLeeTech hello again, thanks for all these tutorials they have helped out a lot and yes we had to start using OBS as the audio is great using it. Thanks a lot for all your help!
HI Steph, I made the lower third in photoshop and made it transparent but I'm having issues. When I insert it into the media section of the ATem mini it looks fine. When I activate to show the lower third when it's live, the PNG file looks all white with the logo that I created. I can't get the white background to disappear and show the actual camera. Any suggestions?
@DJ JAY NYCE you need to make sure in ATEM Software under Downstream Key > Pre Multiplied Key is 'unchecked' / 'deselected'. Adjust 'Clip' & 'Gain' settings to remove the white background. I'm currently using Photoshop 2020, the best export method so far for PNG to ATEM is either File > Export > Quick Export as PNG or File > Export > Export As ... PNG, Transparent, 8-bit selected in the popup window settings. I've also realised if I create a PNG in gradient colour with fade to transparent (opacity 0) I need to make sure the 'Pre Multiplied Key' is 'unchecked' to make sure it retains the transparency of the lower third PNG.
Great - how can I put two pictures in one image at the same time - logo and Lower Thirds -I remind you that I want to use two files - atem mini pro
Hi Steph, your videos are awesome. Question: Is it possible to use the downstream key and upstream key at the same time? One problem I'm noticing is there is only one media player built in. Will using both keys at the same time possible if we add a second media player? If so, which one? Hyperdeck?
Every time i try to get the lower third example (had follow your instructions step by step) the logo appears in the atem mini video but around the logo is SUPER BRIGHT YELLOW LIGHTNING and i can see nothing from the rest of the video screen :( I don't know why.
I use google draw for simple graphics. free and simple.
Is There a way to use an animated lower third from Adobe Premiere Proo?
Hi Derek not that I know
I followed all instructions but when I click On air it cuts from camera 1 to the image, not an overlay. What I'm doing wrong?
How would we incorporate the Atem mini pro with services like Streamlabs? I mean hardware encoding but using the apps, widgets chat etc and graphics of streamlabs?
Hi Marcelo! I don't have much experience with Streamlabs OBS, only briefly tested it out a couple of times. But from my limited experience with Streamlabs applications, they seem to be more of a software based application while the AMP is a hardware encoding machine. If I had to give you an answer now I would say the AMP would be best used as a webcam function (via the USB-C) on top of the software capabilities of the Streamlab OBS, which in a way defeats the purpose of the AMP.
Steph Lee Films that makes sense Steph. Thabk you and thanks for all the great videos.
@@marcelotrevino Thank you for your time watching our videos Marcelo! And remember to subscribe so you will be notified of new videos released in the future!!!
I cannot find the Atem Mini Media inside the Photoshop. How can I set in Photoshop the Atem Mini Media?
I also found out why the macro cannot create a new macro. It seems that the 1st macro was running. So cannot create a new one.
After I have choose in the downstream key with the png file, when it shows, it became all white background and the logo showed up to be strange and not the image of the logo.
That's great to hear Andrew! Do share more findings here so I can share it with other viewers on our channel. Thanks!
Will downstream key work of you are using 4 cameras?
Yes it would, the DSK gets stills from the Media tab of your Atem Mini Software Control Panel
@@StephLeeTech I am missing downstream key option
why do so many of these instruction films have people with voices that are difficult to understand.
Hi Cashpot I'm sure you will find one that you understand!
Thanks for responding, but my question is let me rephrase... the H2R program allows you to place a “LOGO” from a png or some type graphic... I want to use the “lower thirds that I’ve already created “ in this program like you bring in the logo.... is it possible to write some css code which is there to make the program pull in your designated graphic instead of its lower third function....
What file format is your lower thirds in?
Steph Lee Films png
@@tedz2000 PNG files should work
Steph Lee Films I believe you are not understanding my? Thanks for replying
@@tedz2000 Hi Tedz I really don't quite understand your question I am sorry about that. As far as I know, the Downstream Key allows you to bring in any transparent layer image as an overlay on top of your main camera. If your question is about writing CSS code on the H2R graphics maybe you can contact them directly to ask if it is possible because they are the creators of the app.
Can i run company logos on the smaller atem Mini (without the pro) ?
Hi! I think you can! the Pro adds recording and livestreaming from the switcher. Downstream Key seems to be available for the non Pro version too