Simple Animated Lower Thirds with the ATEM Mini
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- čas přidán 26. 07. 2024
- While the ATEM Mini Pro doesn't have animated titles built into the hardware or software, there is a super simple way to do them. By using Apple's software Keynote, you can create simple animations that can be activated with the click of a button. Once you have them animated, it's as simple and making your canvas green and keying the canvas out and voila! You have simple animated lower thirds for your live-stream or your multi-cam edit. Of course, the cost is that you're giving up one of your HDMI inputs. But, hey, we did this with three cameras and hardly even used the third.
If you have any questions about live-switching and streaming, please leave them down below and I'll use my brain to try to answer them. If my brain can't do it, I'll let you know!
Just a quick shout out - We learned this trick from Alex Lindsay who hosts Office Hours on his CZcams channel. In the words of Fergie when referring to her lumps, check it out!
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Well done and explained! I am gonna try that out NOW! Thank you!!!!!
Thanks,
I already know how to do this with PPT.
But you explanation was excellent. Having u in the video with the lower thirds was very useful in how to create the lower third. Very nice.
Thanks for the kind words! Hopefully, I'll have time to make more videos soon. Fingers crossed.
JESSE KOESTER EXPLAINER GUY. Yeah, that's our guy! 😆 Nice demo!
Thanks, this is exactly what I have been looking for.
So glad it's useful! Thanks for the comment. :-)
A very informative and funny video! Thank you so much!
Thanks for watching it! I'm happy if it was useful. :-)
That was very satisfying. Thanks.
Glad you dug it! We're going to be launching heaps more videos in the coming weeks and I'm happy to invite you to stay tuned. :-)
thank you, works great. just took me a while to work out the workflow
I'm so glad it worked for you! If you ever have any questions, please don't hesitate to ask. I'll answer them if I can.
Can you share how you worked out the workflow?
@@tuftlaw If you tell me where you're having trouble, maybe I can help out. Best of luck!
Thanks!!! I’ll use it!
Good luck! We love using chroma keys with the ATEM. It seems like it should be incredibly difficult but it simply just ain't.
Great video. Thank you posting! subscribed!
Thanks for the comment! More videos when I have the time. I've just been dumb busy these days. Cheers! Also, if you have any questions, I'd focus on them in the next video.
Great stuff can’t get enough.
That's awesome! I'm really glad you dug it. We're wrapping up a couple of larger gigs in the first half of this month and with a bit of luck, I'll be able to post more after that. I'm glad you enjoyed it!
Very helpful.. thanks!
Thanks for checking it out!
Super video!! Thank you!!!
Thanks for the comment! If you ever have ATEM questions, please don't hesitate to ask. If I know an answer, I'll share it!
New here awesome job👏🏽 thanks for keeping it simple 👍🏽
Thanks for the comment and subscribe! If there's anything you'd like to see covered on this channel, just tell me and we'll cook it up. Cheers!
Great twotorial! Congrats!
Thanks for watching! I'm finally moved into the office and producing content more regularly. If there's anything you'd like to see covered, just leave a comment and I'll focus on that for a video. Cheers!
Very good knowledge.
Thanks man! I appreciate it. If you have any questions, feel free to post them and I'll answer 'em if I can. Cheers!
Great video JJ...if I'm a PC user, what's the equivalent program that I can use to build those lower thirds on the cheap? Big thanks!
I haven't done much work on PCs. You might want to try noodling in Google Slides. It seems to have some light animation tools. I'm sorry I can't help you more. And thanks for watching!
This was great and super simple. If I were to make the lower thirds in photoshop, would I just export the images and put them into keynote?
You absolutely could. If you don't need animation elements, you can go directly from Photoshop to the ATEM image bank. If you want animation elements, you can move your Photoshop creations to Keynote. Either way, you have the benefit of transparency if you finish to PNG.
Great video, thanks very much! I had a question whether it is possible to remove the green color that is seen on the edge of the animation? Thx
Yes. This tutorial is the roughest of green screen technique that you can get away with. Because every project is different. you'll have to do some work on your own of noodling with the settings. The first thing to check is that your green screen is evenly-lit and there's good separation between you and your screen. That will straight away help tons in getting a clean extraction. Cheers!
That's was awesome, I just got my atem mini pro, and also a stream deck xl. I'm having so much fun with this thing , learning how to flex with the device. It's pretty awesome how much CPU power u save now..amazing. enjoyed the video. Now is keynote a mav only software?
For real, the on-board stream compressor is amazing. We used to use OBS to edit, compress and stream and you could feel the weight of it on the laptop we use. To move so much of the processing onto a dedicated device has changed the way we approach a stream. Thanks for the comment!
@@JJKoester Indeed, I’m amazed and happy that my Mac isn’t suffering under the OBS “pressure” when I use my ATEM Mini Pro. However, OBS’s possibilities are, of course, far more versatile. The ATEM, e.g., has only one MediaPlayer. So you can only overlay one Lower Third. Or one Channel logo. Or one graphic somewhere. Or you have to create all possible combinations ... 🤷♂️
@@StefanWolfrum I hear you. I wonder how close to the ceiling the ATEMs are to their capacity. Like, could it do more green screen stream and media playback? I imagine there's more it can do but it also does so much already I feel bad asking for more.
This video was slick and I used this with PowerPoint in Windows and it worked great. Thank you! Also, finally someone else with a Zoom H6 + ATEM Mini setup! I would love to see more videos about how to best use your H6 with your ATEM Mini. I noticed you have a 3.5mm cord plugged into your XY mic. I saw someone else do this, but what is the benefit? More tips for using the H6 with the ATEM Mini, please! I'm a noob! Thanks!
We've been adjusting our H6 workflow a lot since this was made. I'd be happy to do a video on how we get the most out of that gear combo. Thanks for the comment. I'll try to remember to post a link when we publish that but just in case, you could subscribe and click for notifications.
Also, I love that your handle abbreviates to BAM! I cohosted a podcast for a while called What A Move? and that was WAM? so I feel a slight kinship based on abbreviations alone. Cheers!
@@JJKoester We are now brothers of the WAM BAM movement, lol. Thank you for responding and I have subscribed and clicked for notifications!
I am actually a (budding) researcher and licensed therapist (not under BAM, unfortunately, lol) who is working on a podcast with a supplemental CZcams page. I have found your videos really helpful and will be staying tuned.
Just FYI, I have an H6, ATEM Mini, some lav mics, a Behringer XM8500 w/ fethead, and a Lumix G7 (but I am solidly a PC user). Trying to learn these tools!
Thanks again and looking forward to seeing more workflow tips for the H6!
@@BlaqBruh I'll try to get on that one this week. Cheers!
Yo! I made a video about our audio workflow. You can find it here. czcams.com/video/YANL_9YHXjA/video.html
If you have any questions that aren't covered in that, just hit me up and I'll try to answer it. Cheers!
Waow excelente. Hi from 🇵🇷.. I like how you show it to us? Your and actor?
Not an actor. Just a video producer/director. Thanks for commenting!
Thank you for this tutorial...When you talked about PS being a source for more fleshed out graphics, how would they then get animated? You mean bring them into Keynote? Also, how did you get then to run? Pressing play (twice) in Keynote? I would want to have an ATEM macro do the animation since my hands are busy playing an instrument.
Thanks for the comment and questions! Keynote is a bit limited to rectangles and gradients. If you wanted to do some more robust designing with more nuanced shapes and patterns, you'd probably have an easier go of it in PS. You could make all of your creative decisions on colors, patterns, shapes and fonts over there and then migrate those choices to Keynote using PNG files with transparency. You'd have to rebuild the text if you want to animate it though.
I believe you can control Keynote with an iPhone so as you tap the screen it will move to the next action in the queue, whether that's animation within a slide or a new slide. If both of your hands are full, you could tap with your toe. This would also probably work with the spacebar, though I'm not sure. Also, you could set the animation on a timer (15 second or whatever) so you tap play animation and then you'd have a bit of time to get yourself situated with an instrument. A couple of practices and I bet you could figure out the timing fairly close.
Just remember to leave a comment with a link if you end up uploading something! I'd love to hear what you're working on!
Great, thanks that might be doable. I’m using ATMs built-in macros in editing XML to control when media from the media bin comes on or off but Keynote can possibly handle the animation with the timing points you’ve mentioned. It won’t really matter when the animation comes in in so far as every so often regardless of the camera angle I’m using so I appreciate your thoughts and I’ll circle back.
@@TaystTheNotes Awesome! I'm glad it was useful. I'm looking forward to hearing from you!
I am new to the ATEM mini and live-streaming in general. Can you add two lower third graphics at the same time? if so, how?
That should work fine but here are a couple of thoughts on configuration and risk reduction. If you're using the ethernet port for live streaming then you will need to connect the ATEM to your computer using the USB-C port and will lose the ability to record to tape. If you absolutely have to record to tape while broadcasting then you can use the ethernet port to control the ATEM. However, I would not use my graphics computer as my broadcast computer. I have done this a couple of times and mostly it works. However, things have glitched because I'm running the graphics and the controlled and the stream from the same machine and the last thing you want during a livestream is to have to reset all of your gear. Of course, if you need to run graphics while you control the ATEM, you might already have two computers setup for this.
Thank you very much for this tutorial. I sent you a detailed message via facebook.
Thank you so much! I'll check it out. I'm not much for Facebook so it's totally possible that I missed it. If I can find the message, I'll reply.
Cheers!
Hi thanks for the tutorial!
Quick question is the ATEM Mini connected directly to the laptop using an ethernet cable or are you going through a router? I got it working using a router but I couldn't get direct ethernet connection
I can't speak on the ATEM Mini but I can speak on the ATEM Mini Pro. I have controlled it running ethernet from the device to the master laptop and I have also controlled it running the ethernet into our local router. The laptop can discover it either way. Thirdly, you can use the USB connection to plug the ATEM Mini Pro into your laptop and control it there. I hope that answers your question. If not, tell me and I'll try to get more specific. Cheers!
@@JJKoester 👍🏻 thanks!
Great video! I'm using a Streamdeck pedal and Streamdeck Xl to switch cameras with my feet while playing instruments with my band in studio. The idea is to set up either a macro in ATEM or Streamdeck keys that will run the entire sequence so that the lower third comes in and out with the push of one button, keying the lower third over whatever camera is up at the time. I will make a video explaining it soon but this is super great help as far as Keynote. Just would like to know how you brought the KeyNote into the Atemmini? On your software it just shows 4 cameras. Is one source actually the Mac? If so would it be possible to export the Keynote as a video and bring it into the ATEM directly to free up one source?
One of the sources is the Mac running Keynote. We've got our fingers crossed that Apple will introduce Camera Out from Keynote (they seem to be an inch away from doing that) so that Keynote will behave as a webcam for use in software like Zoom. For the Mini, we really feel the weight of dedicating an entire source for animated graphics and we're glad we switched over to the Mini Extreme.
@@JJKoester Thanks for the response. Does the Mini extreme have a dedicated video player? Otherwise is there a way to connect a video player to the MiniPro?
It doesn't have a dedicated media player but it does have 8 inputs. When you dedicate an input to lower thirds on the Mini, that's 25% of your inputs. When you do it on the Extreme, it's 12.5% of your inputs. You will really feel that extra breathing room.
I imagine you'd be able to do a Stream Deck macro that controls Keynote video playback and ATEM switching with a single button. Please leave a link if you build one and make a video about implementing it.
Cheers!
@@JJKoester I'm not able to connect Streamdeck to Keynote. That was another question I had. Is there a way to do it? Streamdeck doesn't see Keynote in the regular search area. That would be a great one-button solution.
How do you interview with a split screen - whereas you can see both individuals with their names on the screen?
I'm guessing there's a way. If I can figure it out, I'll post a link to this comment thread. Thanks for your patience!
Thank you. What if you want to change cameras but have the graphic stay on the screen? Doesn't seem to work in Chroma that way...
I could be wrong but I believe that you can set that up in the desktop software, same as retaining the picture-in-picture from cut to cut.
Could I run a multicamera shoot with presentation sharing from just a single PC or would I need to feed a ppt presentation from 1 PC into the mini and then feed that over to a 2nd PC which host the zoom meeting?
I cycle back from the ATEM into a live stream all the time. You just have to be careful to watch which of your 4 feeds is broadcasting. When you broadcast from your computer to an ATEM and then back to Zoom, it will show whatever is on your screen when you cut to that camera.
Hey Jesse,
Which software would you recommend for lower thirds created on After Effect? Still KeyNote?
I only used Keynote because it was easy to build and broadcast. As an all-in-one, it can't be beat. If you're working in something like After Effects, you've opened up a whole new world of possibilities. Of course, you could run them straight from Quicktime Player but you'd have to open and full screen them individually. You could also load them up into something like OBS. If you wanted to go fancy-pants, you could get VJ software like VDMX and have your lower thirds programmed to hotkeys on your keyboard or a midi controlled.
If I were doing an AE workflow, I'd build the files and then program them out in slides in Keynote because it would be easy to re-arrange the slides on the fly.
Just remember to leave motion blur off for the cleanest key.
Thanks for asking!
@@JJKoester Thanks for answering, I'll have a look at VDMX.
I was looking for something that allows me to play the graphics easily (maybe using a Elgato Stream Deck) and at the same time to change something of those graphics if needed. Like pausing, giving a delay, changing the dimensions, connecting one to the other...
@@pietrovisconti8092 VDMX will totally have you covered with pretty much everything you've described and so much more. I haven't used it in ages but you'll probably be able to jump in and tame that beast in an afternoon.
I'd also look into OBS which is much more free than VDMX, if a little less user-friendly. Once you learn how to use OBS though, it might be able to hit the marks in a pinch.
All the best!
Hey Jared, not sure if you're still responding on this video, but we just got a ATEM Mini (not a pro) and Im stuck on one part of your video. At around timecode 3:04 you are showing how to preview the chroma green, and I cant get mine to see anything. I move that little square around and nothing changes. How do I get it to see the green? Thanks so much for this video and for your time!
Thanks for watching! I fell like it's time to update this video with explanations that are a bit more clear.
I'm out on a shoot all week but the next video I make will be a better breakdown of chroma keying with the ATEM.
Thanks for your patience!
Is There a way to use an animated lower third from Adobe Premiere Pro?
I imagine it would be as simple as creating a green (or whatever color you like) color matte underneath your premiere lower third and exporting a ProRes or H.264 of it. I imagine you're talking about those Motion Graphics lower thirds. Also, if you were using Premiere on your laptop, I imagine you could set up your HDMI out as a video display for the program and run directly out of Premiere without exporting. But, I'd hedge my bets on exporting first. Again, lower thirds with motion blur and transparency will kinda sorta break this trick.
Great info can you assist with logo/bug for atem mini pro iso?
You bet! There's a couple ways to do that and we'll cover it in our next video. I'm full-up on production this weekend but we'll have it out by next Friday. Thanks for the question!
Do you do 10-30 minute one on one sessions?
@@bates4333 Absolutely. Please reach out through our website: thayuphoto.com/contact
@@JJKoester when should I look to hear back from someone
HELP ! At 5:02, you did something that’s not explained . You turned on the actual green screen key but didn’t explain how. What did you do???? This is where I’m stuck at
I believe I pressed the Key On button in the upper right of the ATEM Mini Pro. It might be time to reshoot this video with a clearer explanation of what's happening.
Wanna collab?
Sure would! How can I help?
Very poor presentation. Bad camera angles and jokes. Half 🔯 here.
Thank you for the feedback! Quick question, is half Jew too much Jew or not enough Jew?