How do I get lower thirds or lyrics on my stream using BlackMagic ATEM Mini Pro and ProPresenter
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- čas přidán 21. 12. 2020
- One of the first things to setup after you get your new switcher, and setup camera sources is, adding graphics and overlays. Keying your lyrics or lower thirds graphics on top of your video is the starting point for most. We pulled this video from our course on production online, to show you how to quickly get setup with "Keying" your sources.
In this video we are using a BlackMagic ATEM Mini Pro but this method would work on any BlackMagic ATEM Products including the TV Studio HD, TV Studio Pro HD and Pro 4K, along with the Production Studio 1ME and 2ME plus the Broadcast Studio 4ME and 8K Constellation 4ME!
We also use ProPresenter 7 but this Method will also work with ProPresenter 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6 as well as other Presentation Software! - Zábava
This video is awesome! I would love to see a deeper dive into ATEM Switchers!
Excellent video guys!!! 🫶
How did I not find this before now? Nice work guys.
Excellent video. Gets to the point and explains the details. Many thanks
Thank you for this we are about to upgrade our visual side at church after doing our audio at the start of the pandemic and this explains the atem mini for us you guys are awesome
Guys, that was great! Thank you so much for that simple tutorial!
This is exactly the video I was searching for, thank you so much guys!
Your video is incredibly helpful. Thank you. Blessings.
I have been looking at purchasing a Atem mini pro for our church service to upgrade our streaming. I have been looking all over CZcams for information on how to take already created PowerPoint slides and integrate them with AMP. You are the first group that has explained it fully...THANK YOU!
most useful types of channels and videos for churches especially in these times! please keep it going!
This is ridiculously helpful. Thanks!
You and the tech team at Bethel are truly blessings to the world. Thank you for sharing your time and vast wisdom with us all. God's continued blessings on your ministry.
Awesome video! Thank you so much!
This vid helped me a ton!!!!!! Thank you so much for ur work!!
So this means that you don't necessarily have to have the lyrics set as 'Lower Third' from in pro presenter, you can legit modify in Atem software while keeping the lyrics centered from PP. Makes it easier if you'd want to have lyrics screens in the sanctuary same as what you'd send to the atem. Love this video
I love this video. Thanks for the information
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Excellent video. Clear and concise instructions from both presenters. My church is using 4 cameras with the ATEM Mini Pro. Any other options (other than buying another switcher) for input for lower 1/3 graphics? Thank you.
Hi, I just started using Atem, for our church and I'm kind of the Production person. I will like to know if you could explain the way you have these connections done in the back of Athem including USB ports and HDMI thxs for this video it really helps.
great vid guys thanks! :)
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This video is very helpful. Are there other videos with this same style of tutorial? I’m still looking for a video that will teach me how to split the livestream view, sermon graphic (not a lower 3rd) on one side and the live video of pastor on opposite side of the graphic.
Depending on the switcher model, you can do this a couple different ways. With an ATEM Mini, you can use the DVE. I believe the Pic in pic effect uses the DVE to accomplish this. Hope thats helpful. The bigger switchers with a full "ME" or say "super source" means they do this a more proper and flexible way. Benefits of buy a nicer switcher model is super source options!
Great video! Question, is it possible to send the lyrics or graphics already positioned as lower thirds from propresenter?
Thanks for the info on fill and key. ProPresenter, and EasyWorship are alike in some way. We currently have Easy Worship, and I'm looking to do a setup with ATEM Mini Pro ISO. I want to have 3-PTZ cameras feeding input 1-3, and then 1-HDMI Input (No. 4) from the Computer. I want to do both Fill and Key on that input. Could I use a StreamDeck and create macro buttons that would switch that input back and forth between Fill and Key? I want to do Lower-Thirds over the video LiveStream, and then Switch to Full Screen for Announcements, and Videos we may play.
nice one.
We are looking for a way to connect ProPresenter to our Black Magic "camera" inputs, so that we can show the entire slide we are showing on ProPresenter to our live stream. However we have the blackmagic hooked up (USB) to a different computer than we use proPresenter on...
Thank YOU!!
We are using PowerPoint for white on black lyrics both on screen in our sanctuary and for the ATEM feed. On the ATEM we were simply using a flying key just to have a black box with white lyrics picture in picture. We'd like to switch to using the simple Luma method to put just the white lyrics in the lower third. However, when we tried it some colors from the main picture behind seem to bleed through into our white lyrics. The letters don't seem to be quite opaque. Any help on how to correct that? Is the problem with using PowerPoint? Thanks.
Super clear and helpful. Is it possible to have a semi transparent "Text Box" and solid words to help with readability?
not easily. Keying will sorta work, you have to find the fine line that works for your design.
you can use the built in media pool, add the static image for the background and and then strategically overlay the graphics from your character generator on top of it. This is a popular solution
Thanks for the simple explanation. The luma works as described on my Extreme, but as soon as I use the "K1lum" button on my "select bus" my palette settings revert to a chroma setting with a different camera (as if that's it default). Seems weird to me. Are the settings you describe supposed to hold? And can it it executed on the switcher without using the software? I'm just getting this machine set up. It's all new to me.
Hi, thanks for the great video, how would you do slides and lower thirds separately? So church notices etc and lyrics can be shown. We have a propresenter pc, atem, live stream pc and stream deck controller. Thanks
The video is helpful, but here is my problem. We are currently using a iMac with two outputs. One goes to the stage display and one is split and goes to the screens and the other to the ATEM Mini Pro. If I use your method will it interfere with my screen projection or because it generated in the Atem will it still function. The other question is graphics. I don't use a black background with white text. How will this affect the lower third on the Atem?
Hey guys... I hope you are both doing well! Thank you so so much for sharing everything with us!! My question isn't related to the video but I wanted to know how do you guys do your color grading at Bethel? The colours are beautiful but not over saturated. We are filming with Blakcmagics (4K and 6K) and streaming through OBS but our final colour doesn't look as good as I know it could. If you have any advice it would be greatly appreciated! Thank you so so much! Blessings :)
Second that
Spend more time getting lighting right! We typically use teh built in Luts. Havent made custom ones until recently, but even then, it was just to re-calibrate our faded sensors.
First, thanks. You guys are very helpful. But Will Rogers once said: "Everyone is ignorant, just on different subjects." I am an audio guru with decades of experience in recording studios but I am a video caveman. All of the terms are new to me, even something as basic as "keying" so I appreciate the explanation of Luma and Chroma tabs. However, while you explained how you put the lyrics as a "layer" (is that the right term?) you did not explain how you had the ATEM Software Control in the lower right corner. Did you do that with PIP? You said it yourself, ATEM Mini only has one key. And one of these days I am going to find a video that can explain to me how I can have a filled (don't know the term) greenscreen when using a camera in a PIP. My camera filled PIP has a green screen that just green, not filled in with my Luma source. I will learn, thank God for youtube. It used to take so much longer to learn new things before youtube! So thank you for all you do!
Using Looks for lower thirds( create a theme exactly for Livestream and second for the Main screen - if you use only 2 output
How do you put the lyrics on the lower third from a Mac mini using Propresenter to show on our livestream that is broadcasting on a MacBook Pro. Can the Mac or IP address be utilized from onboard or do we require another interface?
omg how did i miss this video.....My team has struggled with this. I have a QUESTION lol as you put the lyrics on the live can it also be used in the sanctuary on the screens??? also is it the same with scriptures?? AGAIN THANK YOU FOR THIS CHANNEL im so shook right now
not really, you can however work on getting a doc or something to expand some of your computer IO.
I wish you guys made the screen share bigger so we could see better. I had to move closer to see the whole time. I guess i need glasses hahaha
Is there a way to display both lyrics (using luma key) and graphics (using chroma key) on the same recording, using the same PP file? If we're transitioning from worship to announcements, it seems like we'd also have to change the keying, which is cumbersome and prone to errors when shooting live.
If you have a bigger switcher that has more keys you could make another one so it’s just a transition.
So the ProPresenter out with the chroma green on it is what the congregation sees as well? Or can you make independent modifications per display out in ProPresenter?
Or are you running camera feeds to the congregation projectors? Lol sorry for so many questions.
PP7 supports multiple outputs, you can indeed put the color on just one of the outputs so you can keep your projectors black or whatever you need. does that help?
you can create that same graphic in say photoshop and export as an png and use the DSK (TIE and or on Air) and use ur key function for something more broader than a graphic
This is a fantastic way to do this! We love this method
Is there a reason you guys use USK and not DSK, as USK drops with transition traditionally? Is it the option to Chroma Key, and then have you set the ATEM not to drop the key on transition?
Could you also explain how does the hardware connection works?
3:21 how is the lyric sent to the input of the switcher, is it via HDMI? So is this a two computer setup?
New user to Propresenter 7. I have a couple of questions that perhaps y’all can help me with. 1. Do I need to have my ATEM Mini as a video input source in PP7 to overlay lyrics? 2. I have a lower third look set up PP7. Can I output that look to my livestream? If so, then 3. How do I do so from my ATEM Mini to our Resi Ray Encoder?
If you are using PP7's software RESI encoder, you can overlay graphics in PP7 and push to stream from PP7. If you are wanting the ATEM to encode for you, then you would need to use the one of your inputs to overlay graphics from PP7 as a video source. does that makes sense?
@@BethelProduction makes perfect sense. Since our post, we’ve developed a look on ProPresenter 7 which outputs to our Ray encoder along with the video. Many thanks for the response!
So at our church we have PP7 on an iMac that displays lyrics in the sanctuary. I tried going from that same iMac to the ATEM mini in an open hdmi port of the mini and when I did, the iMac display only showed about three huge letters and the lyrics disappeared from the sanctuary display until I disconnected the ATEM mini. I just went from the back of the iMac with an adapter to HDMI into the open port of the mini. So now I’m lost again!
sounds like something with your graphics card or computer. Display drivers can drive you crazy sometimes. Just start fresh and close apps and when its all connected, then open Pro Presenter and try again.
yes!
Do you have to run two computers, one with propresenter and the other with atem software?
My Chroma doesn't automatically detect the color that I am using. Is that a feature on the new version of the software or switcher?
thats a great question.... always try to update the software... if it still doesn't work, just manually set it. If you still have issues, you might be having an hdmi cable issue.
when I have picture and picture on and I try to chenge cameras with any of the buttons on the device it turns picture picture off and back on thats it... but if I change cameras in the atem software it works fine...
Hey, will this same principal work if we're using Powerpoint? Or do we need to purchase Pro-Presenter?
absolutely the same process!
@@BethelProduction One more question......Am I assuming correctly that the computer with the lyrics plugged in to camera 2 in the Luma section is only controlling the livestream and there would need to be a separate computer running the lyrics with backgrounds for the auditorium?
Hi. Does this work with Worship Extreme (now called Presenter) as well? I tried your method with no success?
We are just using a chroma key method, this process works with ProPresenter, Keynote, Powerpoint or any character generator. You just have to "key out" the color and your text will overlay. If its not working, its likely you dont have the Keyer programmed correctly.
Weird I am doing what you are.... nothing happens when I click on-air button in the ATEM software control. I mean 'nothing' happens. I have a simple black slide with white text in propresenter. I am using camera4 as my input for propresenter, camera1 as my video camera input. Any suggestions? I can't seem to get even the most basic example to work, really stumped.
Are you guys recording from the Atem or pro presenter?
When using an Atem Mini switcher, typically you record in your streaming software, or on a usb drive if you're utilizing RTMP over the network link.
We noticed if we don’t use the software control on a laptop and you use the actual atem to switch between cameras, it turns off the chroma key. Why is that? Is there a way to change it?
Hi! Any luck on this?
We lose the lower third when we change cameras too):
This is a feature that can be turned on and off in the atem control software. Ill have to do a follow up on this... If you go to the ATEM Setup app, on the configure page, in the "panel settings" select "Drop with Transition" or "Stay on with transition".
@@BethelProduction Blackmagic did an update a while back and fixed the issue
@@CompassionDanville honestly thats great news! We use a Constellation 8k switcher and a Broadcast, and a couple others... we dont use the Atem Mini's unless its a mobile shoot like an interview or something.
What font are you guys using?
Futura
Will this work with Song show Plus?
Hi, did you use a PC or a Mac with this setup?
Either works just the same!
If there is only 1 upstream key, how do I get lower 2/3 on 2 or 3 video inputs ?
Cam 1 Video
Cam 2 Video
Cam 3 Video
Cam 4 Lyrics/Lower two third
Were you able to figure it out? I need this too):
@@darylpuri Leave the key up and use the ATEM software to switch camera sources instead of the physical switcher. :)
you can do this... just create the graphic manually, or use something like PP7. Chroma Key out the same way you would with lyrics. Note: Keying doesn't handle gradients or transparency very well.
But is the upstream key working with a multicam setup? As far as I know its changing with every cut. But then with the downstream key (which would be better, because it works independently from the different inputs), there is no cropping and positioning function...
Am I overlooking something or is it really that way?
Thanks for your video, please upload more content, its great to learn from you guys at bethel :)
Both will work with a multi cam cut! There is a transition button for the Key right under the “on air” on the software. Make sure it’s off and you are good to go!
Guys, so difficult! Just use 2 outputs in ProPresenter. 1 output for Main screen (LED or Projector), and output - livestream, with different graphics on each output. Don’t create a chromakey or black background. Best way, just use a transparent background in PP output settings!) 🤠
Awesome idea!
Good thought. But not everyone is using Pro7 or ProPresenter at all and this method will work with any software.
@@DrakeKelch Now, we use two ProPresenter 6 with Master Control module, works well 👌🏻
Hey, this is a great idea.
So what type of keyer and with which settings are you using? And how have you connected your Pro7 PC to your ATEM?
Thanks.
@@jonathanmatheus8511 We don’t have a PP7..
What kind of light is that in the background?
Arri 150
Just noticed a few glitches coming from the key source at 11:49 12:10 12:13 , might be a broken HDMI.
HDMI always has problems :-P
Can I do the something with powerpoint
How do you approach making graphics that can fill a16x9 screen in room but also be able to be lower 3rds on broadcast?
Make all the content you need in the lower third of the 16x9 graphic.
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That back light is hard to watch.
Your back light is not supposed to be pointing into the camera... It's not pleasant to look at
There’s never a right or wrong way to be creative.
Obviously they don't read or answer the comments, so I won't bother asking and watch other channels
We try to answer as many as we can. the more complicated questions are tough to write in a comment. We do take your feedback and we try to make follow up videos so we can help lots of people with the same potential solution.
your face is not important to the viewers but the connectivities and the screen preview of what you are doing are more important, this doesnt help me in anyway. thanks