What If VIEWERS Voted On The Map After WW2

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    Welcome to a unique interactive experience! In this video, we explore the aftermath of World War II, specifically focusing on the borders that were drawn up by the world powers. But what if those decisions were in your hands? How would you redraw the world map? This is your chance to cast your vote and make your voice heard. Join us as we delve into history, discuss the implications of these borders, and give you the power to reshape our world. Don’t forget to like, share, and subscribe for more interactive history content. Your vote counts!
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  • @seatray_real
    @seatray_real Před 7 měsíci +2840

    "The biggest argument against democracy is letting people vote for a fictional peace deal."
    - Winston Churchill, 2023

    • @Godzilla00X
      @Godzilla00X Před 7 měsíci +198

      Stalin after the peace conference "I've said it before and I'll say it again comrades, democracy doesn't work"

    • @Sana_a04
      @Sana_a04 Před 7 měsíci +121

      "Democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others that have been tried" - Churchill before watching this video

    • @righthandstep5
      @righthandstep5 Před 7 měsíci +2

      ​@@Godzilla00XLove homer simpson

    • @minestar2247
      @minestar2247 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@Godzilla00X wasn't Stalin a defender of democracy and personal freedom? He did say once that he can hardly imagine a starving person being free

    • @WhenAllTheWarmthLeavesUs
      @WhenAllTheWarmthLeavesUs Před 7 měsíci +17

      @@minestar2247 xd u gotta be kidding bro

  • @_RedRightHand_
    @_RedRightHand_ Před 7 měsíci +430

    > USSR wins war.
    > USSR looses territory.
    Your tactics confuse and frighten me, sir.

    • @Anarcho-Stupidity
      @Anarcho-Stupidity Před 4 měsíci +18

      Just like in the congress

    • @mursulesku
      @mursulesku Před 2 měsíci +7

      Its ok, it just shows how people dont know nor understand so much, but they think they do, and its all make pretend anyway, lets have fun :D

  • @CiggyMan
    @CiggyMan Před 7 měsíci +1722

    I love how the division of Rome from Italy is predicated on the same concept of Prussia being dismantled from Germany because of 'Prussian militarism'

    • @letthereberock8637
      @letthereberock8637 Před 7 měsíci +54

      While Prussia comes back

    • @emib6599
      @emib6599 Před 7 měsíci +71

      I need an alternative scenario where Italy 🇮🇹 carry all the major european war with the objective of restoring the Roman Empire, but it's somehow extremely competent and efficient.

    • @henninglaksholm3297
      @henninglaksholm3297 Před 7 měsíci +23

      @@emib6599 like a what if everything went right for modern italy?

    • @emib6599
      @emib6599 Před 7 měsíci +7

      @@henninglaksholm3297
      Nope 🙅🏻 because modern Italy had some very inferior ideas 💡 of local maritime egemony in the Mediterranean at maximum and the Roman empire was joke propaganda for ignorant masses.
      I mean the late 1800 Italy that was formed only for few decades and it still had political movement that really wanted the whole Roman Empire back not as a propaganda symbol but as real territorial unification of Europe, North Africa and Middle East under one government.

    • @SRAMLiraium
      @SRAMLiraium Před 7 měsíci

      ​​@@emib6599LOSE OF ROMAN EMPİRE 1453m

  • @jackkennedy7436
    @jackkennedy7436 Před 7 měsíci +1913

    This is gonna go so awful, and I'm all here for it.

    • @ColinWilliams-ml9bx
      @ColinWilliams-ml9bx Před 7 měsíci +103

      We are the worst diplomats the world has ever seen

    • @loganicfilms1388
      @loganicfilms1388 Před 7 měsíci +49

      @@ColinWilliams-ml9bx 100%.
      I tried to be fair and this is horrible. I think I did vote for Mongolia tho.
      Anyway do the World War One vote.

    • @Paulonmp
      @Paulonmp Před 7 měsíci +2

      What u guys vote for on Alsace??

    • @SketchG
      @SketchG Před 7 měsíci +3

      Why hello there old sport

    • @dogomog125
      @dogomog125 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Jack?

  • @wires-sl7gs
    @wires-sl7gs Před 7 měsíci +594

    Congrats on making China the sole future Superpower of Asia by Balkanizing India, Congrats Guys

    • @genovayork2468
      @genovayork2468 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Thanks, India is not a nation state, unlike China.

    • @KevekGaming
      @KevekGaming Před 7 měsíci +92

      Real great guys, this won't be awdul in 80 years from now.

    • @Samuil-iq6eb
      @Samuil-iq6eb Před 7 měsíci

      India is not a nation state.

    • @genovayork2468
      @genovayork2468 Před 7 měsíci

      India is not a nation.

    • @Samuil-iq6eb
      @Samuil-iq6eb Před 7 měsíci +16

      India has many nations inside.

  • @AmariFukui
    @AmariFukui Před 7 měsíci +1003

    I love the fact that overtime Possible History has just embraced the fact the viewers are going to fuck everything up and is having to play yes man for them anyway with thinly veiled criticism of their decisions

    • @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714
      @baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 Před 7 měsíci +81

      I voted for western victory in everything. Would there be an option I would order an Allied invasion of the USSR and its balkanization also.

    • @user-zn7nd5ti6w
      @user-zn7nd5ti6w Před 7 měsíci +125

      ​@@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714least biased viewer's opinion

    • @minestar2247
      @minestar2247 Před 7 měsíci +11

      @@baltulielkungsgunarsmiezis9714 are you serious? The soviet union was a bastion of communism, democracy and personal freedom, also, that would have been impossible because of it's strengh

    • @MayoOverlord
      @MayoOverlord Před 7 měsíci +87

      @@minestar2247 Ah yes famous democraticly elected leader Stalin and the democratic staples of the Gulag and NKVD.

    • @minestar2247
      @minestar2247 Před 7 měsíci +8

      @@MayoOverlord Yes, Stalin was kinda like Roosevelt's first term. But the people did have a right of vote for local representatives, even if it was 1 party, they needed 50% at least of the people to vote for them, even the hospitalised and imprisoned. The us has the highest prison population in the world, even higher than the gulags, even in percentages

  • @johnpotts8308
    @johnpotts8308 Před 7 měsíci +551

    Clearly the answer to an unstable Yugoslavia wasn't a strongman (Tito), it was to make it even larger. That's sure to make it more stable! Particularly since the USSR would be so content with this map, they certainly wouldn't do anything to destabilise it...

    • @supergowiak4369
      @supergowiak4369 Před 7 měsíci +33

      They should also add western Slavs to Yugoslavia. That wiuld surely work out well

    • @CivilWarMan
      @CivilWarMan Před 7 měsíci +105

      The viewers' solution to the Balkan powder keg is apparently trying to stuff the keg so full of powder that there isn't enough oxygen to support a flame that would set it off.

    • @plasmakitten4261
      @plasmakitten4261 Před 7 měsíci +30

      I think people voted for beeg Yugoslavia solely on the assumption that Tito would still be leading it. Given what happened OTL, I have full confidence that he could have held all of it together until his death, so no real harm done compared to OTL as I don't think the addition of Bulgaria would make the Yugoslav collapse much worse because they would probably just leave. And in the meantime, the people of Bulgaria get to enjoy the benefits of Tito's superior version of communism.

    • @gengarzilla1685
      @gengarzilla1685 Před 7 měsíci

      Yeah, if anyone could make this Frankenstein abomination last for most of the Cold War then it'd probably be Tito.

    • @Ower8x
      @Ower8x Před 7 měsíci +17

      @@plasmakitten4261also with the addition of the Bulgars the Serbs will no longer be so mono Dominant .... which may have consequences down the line .... maybe even preventing the dissolution for longer

  • @rrobucksthehuman9186
    @rrobucksthehuman9186 Před 7 měsíci +57

    POV: MacArthur wrote the peace deal

  • @kingofhearts3185
    @kingofhearts3185 Před 7 měsíci +596

    This was a much less cursed map than I was expecting. Honestly shocked Russia didn’t get carved up more than Germany.

    • @TheManinBlack9054
      @TheManinBlack9054 Před 7 měsíci +187

      Wins the war, loses territory in the victory treaty.

    • @hendriktonisson2915
      @hendriktonisson2915 Před 7 měsíci +26

      Best scenario for WW2 would've been an alliance of Poland, Germany, Britain, France and perhaps others against the Soviet Union. This could've been possible if a more moderate leader came to power in Germany in the 1930s instead of A.H. or if A.H. was removed from power before 1939. Germany could still get most of the territory it had by the end of 1938 without having really bad relations with Britain and France. Germany could have given guarantees to defend Eastern European countries against Soviet aggression. An alliance between Germany, Britain and France was possible before the German occupation of Czechia in March 1939. In case of a Soviet attack in this scenario the Soviets wouldn't have any allies or the Lend - Lease and would've been defeated by the European anti-Soviet coalition.

    • @jfacum24
      @jfacum24 Před 7 měsíci +86

      ​@@hendriktonisson2915what are you talking about, do you even know what sides fought in ww2? the germans were the baddies, not the soviets!

    • @hendriktonisson2915
      @hendriktonisson2915 Před 7 měsíci +10

      @@jfacum24 I'm talking about an alternate scenario. Read my comment again.

    • @kingofhearts3185
      @kingofhearts3185 Před 7 měsíci +7

      @@jfacum24 He said if there was a more moderate leader, NOT AH, or if he was removed before 1939. Actually read the comment.

  • @kevinboros7427
    @kevinboros7427 Před 7 měsíci +234

    Seems like these viewers are experts at making peace deals that last all of five minutes. Also, they really, really despise Russia.

    • @HeadsetHatGuy
      @HeadsetHatGuy Před 7 měsíci +39

      now they're going to feel the wrath of the soviets

    • @wires-sl7gs
      @wires-sl7gs Před 7 měsíci +25

      Given current events, it's not surprising.

    • @kevinboros7427
      @kevinboros7427 Před 7 měsíci +93

      @@wires-sl7gs Yes, it's also extremely predictable and boring.

    • @wires-sl7gs
      @wires-sl7gs Před 7 měsíci +19

      @@kevinboros7427 Agreed

    • @rarescevei8268
      @rarescevei8268 Před 7 měsíci +57

      ​@@kevinboros7427It is also immature

  • @theambassador3695
    @theambassador3695 Před 7 měsíci +518

    A very wise man once said: "Letting the internet decide on ANYTHING, is like giving a machine gun to a chimp."
    And I think that's beautiful.

    • @Wendeta-hq2cp
      @Wendeta-hq2cp Před 7 měsíci +6

      We're talking about entertainment, so of course it is!

    • @minestar2247
      @minestar2247 Před 7 měsíci +7

      Yeah, or even better, giving a tank to a band of chimps

    • @bunniifangz
      @bunniifangz Před 7 měsíci +6

      Slippin Jimmy i can handle just fine but Slippin Jimmy with a law degree is like a chimp with a machine gun-

    • @orangerthings8234
      @orangerthings8234 Před 7 měsíci +1

      it works sometimes, but most of the time it backfires heavily

    • @gerwaltspodnovigradu5508
      @gerwaltspodnovigradu5508 Před 6 měsíci

      I will do it and you can't stop me

  • @kxmapper
    @kxmapper Před 7 měsíci +223

    This will be so humiliating for Russia, waiting for another video where WW3 starts over this

    • @alphabetaomega265
      @alphabetaomega265 Před 7 měsíci +34

      Hope we’ll be able to vote for the peace treaty of that WW3

    • @kxmapper
      @kxmapper Před 7 měsíci +24

      @@alphabetaomega265 we can create an infinite series then

    • @sprintfoxy1240
      @sprintfoxy1240 Před 7 měsíci +17

      @@hendriktonisson2915 No

    • @hendriktonisson2915
      @hendriktonisson2915 Před 7 měsíci +3

      @@sprintfoxy1240 Any explanations?

    • @sprintfoxy1240
      @sprintfoxy1240 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@hendriktonisson2915 Do i really need too ? Isn't it obvious that letting nazi Germany have great influence like that (they will have control over baltics,Ukraine,Belarus,Moscow and even Poland), creating a massive bloody war and expanding nazi ideology through Europe will doom the world ?

  • @carmi7042
    @carmi7042 Před 7 měsíci +291

    Seeing the French-Piedmontese house of Savoy ruling over Southern Italy and Sardinia is already much of a border gore to me (I know that in our timeline they were the ones who voted for the monarchy to stay, but still)

    • @MrTohawk
      @MrTohawk Před 7 měsíci +18

      you could bring back the heir of the house Bourbon-Two Sicilies who ruled that kingdom exact of two sicilies before.

    • @Samuil-iq6eb
      @Samuil-iq6eb Před 7 měsíci +1

      ​@@MrTohawkTwo Siciles didn't have Sardinia.

    • @vincenzosorrentino5300
      @vincenzosorrentino5300 Před 7 měsíci +6

      ​@@MrTohawkthis. I am from Southern Italy and some people I know still are 'NeoBourbonists' and believe they were extremely cool unlike stupid Savoy.

    • @gengarzilla1685
      @gengarzilla1685 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Meh, it's not like the fallen Romanovs didn't have German origins. Having foreign relations is kind of a thing for monarchical houses.

  • @_RedRightHand_
    @_RedRightHand_ Před 7 měsíci +73

    > Fights War of Extermination.
    > _Loses land and influence._
    Great job, viewers. I'm sure this diplomacy would last.

    • @Gordonjamesheneryproductions
      @Gordonjamesheneryproductions Před 7 měsíci +4

      Well they did also start the war with Germany so

    • @eduardopupucon
      @eduardopupucon Před 7 měsíci

      and all because of political decisions they made 90 years in the future

    • @baneofbanes
      @baneofbanes Před 3 měsíci +3

      @@Gordonjamesheneryproductionsand they were still one of the big three who were victors in the war. I don’t like Stalin or the Soviets but good fucking luck with taking territory from them in a peace treaty where they’re among the victors.

    • @voided_sun
      @voided_sun Před 2 měsíci

      @@Gordonjamesheneryproductions I thought that Germany and the Soviets had a non-aggression pact where they carved up Poland, until Germany invaded the Soviets?

    • @50pka
      @50pka Před 2 měsíci +4

      ​@@voided_sunAll of Europe had non-aggression pacts with Germany. With the division of Poland, everything is generally clear: without it, Germany would have been even stronger, even more people would have been killed in concentration camps and USSR would have had a more difficult time in the war. It was simply a necessary step.

  • @Goldenblitzer
    @Goldenblitzer Před 7 měsíci +51

    Damn it's a good job all them Soviet troops stationed throughout Eastern Europe just left and went home, glad there was no instability at all

    • @alexeyamosov664
      @alexeyamosov664 Před 7 měsíci +21

      I totally see them just accepting this after having their country absolutely devastated and losing 27 million people. Also I just love that Reddit wants to punish Russia for invading Ukraine so badly that they don’t give Ukraine its territories back from Poland.

    • @gengarzilla1685
      @gengarzilla1685 Před 7 měsíci +9

      Ukraine got caught between the rock (anti-Russian sentiment) and the hard place (pro-Polish sentiment).

  • @rebeccalassetter1726
    @rebeccalassetter1726 Před 7 měsíci +106

    the Soviets would prefer nuclear war to this peace deal.

    • @KevekGaming
      @KevekGaming Před 7 měsíci +29

      No way in hell thd Soviets accept this.

    • @wires-sl7gs
      @wires-sl7gs Před 7 měsíci +16

      Yeah, would of been more acceptable if Russa kept the Baltic and got Poland and Czechoslovakia as puppets.

    • @patrickstar5136
      @patrickstar5136 Před 7 měsíci +7

      well they didn't have nukes back then so it wouldn't be much of a war

    • @matthiuskoenig3378
      @matthiuskoenig3378 Před 7 měsíci +19

      I mean neither did the allies, they had 3 nukes in the war, 2 were used in Japan. That leaves 1 for the Soviets assuming the plane doesn't get shot down. They had the material and facilties to build 15 more by the end of 1945. But they are still delivered by regular bombers which can be shot down by the still viable soviet airforce. So there is going to be a conventional war, with nukes at the end *if* the allies win air superioty AND do so before the war ends.

    • @hendriktonisson2915
      @hendriktonisson2915 Před 7 měsíci +5

      Best scenario for WW2 would've been an alliance of Poland, Germany, Britain, France and perhaps others against the Soviet Union. This could've been possible if a more moderate leader came to power in Germany in the 1930s instead of A.H. or if A.H. was removed from power before 1939. Germany could still get most of the territory it had by the end of 1938 without having really bad relations with Britain and France. Germany could have given guarantees to defend Eastern European countries against Soviet aggression. Before the German occupation of Czechia in March 1939 an alliance between Germany, Britain and France against the Soviets was a real possibility. In case of a Soviet attack in this scenario the Soviets wouldn't have any allies or the Lend - Lease and would've been defeated by the European anti-Soviet coalition.

  • @Lucas.Blevins
    @Lucas.Blevins Před 7 měsíci +110

    I wish you included more of the voting results like with the other videos. That is so fun for me to see just how close or not close the results were!

    • @communisticus191
      @communisticus191 Před 7 měsíci +4

      Also helps to see if some of the votes were taken under the assumption that other votes would succeed. Especially for the ruling government, since thats one of the biggest factors in determining how happy every major power is (Just as an example, if the baltics, poland, and the southern german confederation including the czechs went communist, the Soviets would be much more favorable to the deal). You can kinda tell it probably happened a decent bit, removing Franco because hes a totalitarian but then reinstating totalitarians in Poland is an interesting play
      Idk if those specific votes were actually close, but its interesting to see how far we were from a deal that actually could have worked.

  • @VonGinger
    @VonGinger Před 7 měsíci +33

    Ironically the only thing not balkanized was the balkans

  • @Kanabai1871
    @Kanabai1871 Před 7 měsíci +34

    I have a feeling this Cold War might not be so cold

  • @lordvein
    @lordvein Před 7 měsíci +180

    Cursed western victory. I'm sure everything will go well, especially if you make a timeline from this!

    • @HeadsetHatGuy
      @HeadsetHatGuy Před 7 měsíci +8

      why do i hear siren

    • @ComradeObtain5n
      @ComradeObtain5n Před 7 měsíci +44

      @@HeadsetHatGuy Soviet invasion of Europe speedrun any%

    • @matthiuskoenig3378
      @matthiuskoenig3378 Před 7 měsíci +26

      Soviets will 100% cause a war over this if this is before the nukes are dropped, possibly even after the nukes were dropped as the Soviets know the limited number of nukes are mostly used on japan.
      Or the soviet refuse to leave their occupated areas and the allies start operation unthinkable.
      Eitherway I see ww2 continuing between Soviets and allies in 1945/46, like little to no gap.

    • @rarescevei8268
      @rarescevei8268 Před 7 měsíci +4

      ​@@matthiuskoenig3378And what's worse, the USA has to wait to procure more nukes as the 3 it had were used.

    • @jsw973
      @jsw973 Před 7 měsíci +3

      Is that a red alert I hear in the distance?

  • @mappingshaman5280
    @mappingshaman5280 Před 7 měsíci +34

    Im shocked the redditors let the soviets have anything.

    • @plasmakitten4261
      @plasmakitten4261 Před 7 měsíci +4

      I mean I think PH viewers are actually quite rational about the consequences of their actions except in certain specific cases. They weren't trying to screw over the Soviets, they just really like Poland.

    • @mappingshaman5280
      @mappingshaman5280 Před 7 měsíci +12

      @plasmakitten4261 yeah but I didn't expect the soviets to get anything, I thought it was going to be monarchy and democracy up the wazoo and no soviet expansion in the east, even south sakhalin. Every single one of these polls is basically "Russia bad, Germany good" except this one.

    • @plasmakitten4261
      @plasmakitten4261 Před 7 měsíci +6

      @@mappingshaman5280 Not really, they're all "Poland good, anything that could possibly obstacle Poland bad", and Russia has been an unfortunate casualty of the pro-Poland crusade in both this and the Congress of Vienna videos.

  • @ratisbonawau
    @ratisbonawau Před 7 měsíci +153

    Just gonna leave it here but i would be very much interested in seeing a "What if Everything went perfect for Bavaria" beginning in 555

    • @denizmergen418
      @denizmergen418 Před 7 měsíci +20

      Germany has a cooler capital

    • @dement_tf2maybe
      @dement_tf2maybe Před 7 měsíci +4

      @@denizmergen418 lmao

    • @ratisbonawau
      @ratisbonawau Před 7 měsíci

      @@denizmergen418 Exactly 😭

    • @concept5631
      @concept5631 Před 7 měsíci +7

      Virgin "What If Everything Went Perfect For Germany"
      Chad "What If Everything Went Perfect For Bavaria"
      *_Thad "What If Everything Went Perfect For Saxony"_*

    • @Blue_SaaS
      @Blue_SaaS Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@concept5631 What if everything went perfect for Ulm

  • @attiladerhunne2998
    @attiladerhunne2998 Před 7 měsíci +26

    The funny part with Schleswig-Holstein is that denmark didnt want it back.

    • @Iason29
      @Iason29 Před 2 měsíci

      Unless there was some kind of population exchange, otherwise they decided that the German majority there would always cause problems.

    • @voided_sun
      @voided_sun Před 2 měsíci +1

      It seemed like many smaller nations were hesitant, because taking land would inevitably lead to more disputes and conflict in the future.

  • @victorcaldera249
    @victorcaldera249 Před 7 měsíci +14

    bismark is rolling in his grave over that peace deal

  • @Comrade_Blanc
    @Comrade_Blanc Před 7 měsíci +25

    "We achieved violence in our time"
    -The viewers probably

  • @purpledevilr7463
    @purpledevilr7463 Před 7 měsíci +30

    Honestly, if the Soviets had a few more puppets, it seems actually like a good deal.
    And maybe a little different Asia.

  • @paradoxicaloutcome1007
    @paradoxicaloutcome1007 Před 7 měsíci +21

    His tone in some places reminds me of the Fallout New Vegas Yes Man when you destroy the securitron army at the fort instead of taking control of them like a sane person.
    "Wow, you really restored Poland as an anti-communist dictatorship!... Great! No problem!"

  • @JCEurovisionFan1996
    @JCEurovisionFan1996 Před 7 měsíci +156

    I wonder what would happen after that. I want to see the alternate timeline, especially the continuation of the series about the viewer map of Africa.

    • @servantmapper8893
      @servantmapper8893 Před 7 měsíci +7

      Absolute Chad commenting like this before the video is even released.

    • @baronnolanvonstraya5743
      @baronnolanvonstraya5743 Před 7 měsíci +5

      @@servantmapper8893he's getting in here first for those fake internet points

    • @servantmapper8893
      @servantmapper8893 Před 7 měsíci +1

      💀@@baronnolanvonstraya5743

    • @KFP_Prophet
      @KFP_Prophet Před 7 měsíci +2

      Soviets would be salty, Northern Italy would probably become an example of a "successful" socialist state & probably close trade partners with Yugoslavia, atleast compared to Southern Italy, German politics would probably be dominated by the reunification question for decades, RoC may beat PRoC, but either one would probably invade unstable mongolia and manchuria to get their land back, Cold War would probably be further factionalised as socialist states following the Italian model diverge from Stalinist Russia, India might unify under some of the stronger states or there might be a lot of war. Same with SEA. Japan probably does a bit better than our timeline.

  • @angreyhewe4009
    @angreyhewe4009 Před 7 měsíci +16

    Soviets: I took on 80% of the wermacht and lost a quarter of my population
    Allies: Yes and we'll never forget your sacrifice!
    Soviets: So do i get some land as compensation
    Allies: LOL no

    • @ruas4721
      @ruas4721 Před 7 měsíci

      Germans: Could you please nuke us, would be better than to go back to feudal HRE.

  • @plasmakitten4261
    @plasmakitten4261 Před 7 měsíci +137

    This would probably have been the least awful peace deal yet if not for our collective obsession with Poland. Letting Stalin puppet Poland would have probably made him more or less OK with this outcome, as while he has lost Baltic Sea access compared to OTL, he has gained massive dominance over the Black Sea and at least somewhat non-hostile regimes in large parts of the Mediterranean. He also got Sakhalin, which is all he could really want in the East, and the expansion of states which could easily fall into the Soviet sphere into Chinese territory.

    • @jefflistman4178
      @jefflistman4178 Před 7 měsíci

      Puppeted Poland basically guarantees the Baltic states fall back in to the Soviet orbit, so Stalin would certainly be happy enough with that. The borders the viewers drew, on the other hand, ensures that Soviet troops never withdraw from the frontlines. Puppet states by another name, I suppose.

    • @KiraiKatsuji
      @KiraiKatsuji Před 7 měsíci +22

      BUT POLAND NEEDS TO BE STRONK!!!

    • @gengarzilla1685
      @gengarzilla1685 Před 7 měsíci +35

      And the underdeveloped eastern regions populated by Ukrainians /Belarusians are not necessary for Poland to be "stronk". All those do is paint a bright red Soviet target on Poland's back.

    • @KiraiKatsuji
      @KiraiKatsuji Před 7 měsíci +25

      @@gengarzilla1685 Listen bigger equates stonker no matter that the cultural tears cause more problem than their worth

    • @plasmakitten4261
      @plasmakitten4261 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@KiraiKatsuji This is just going to get them invaded by the Soviets all over again. You can't make Poland stronk with changes at this point in the timeline, it's too late for that. Try the WW1 poll if you want a stronk Poland.

  • @tathemrelag3123
    @tathemrelag3123 Před 7 měsíci +20

    When I read the option for dividing up India, I had assumed that it would be along the lines of the Princely States. I didn't expect a total ethnic balkanization.

  • @Donlot_
    @Donlot_ Před 7 měsíci +36

    Unfortunately i missed the voting for this, which is sad because it's quite interesting. An idea i'd have going forward is to have fictional viewer voted peace deals from an alternate victory perspective. Like said the viewers voting on a WW1 Central Power victory peace deal, or a WW2 Axis Victory peace deal.
    While technically not a peace deal, it would also be cool to vote on the possible collapse of the Warsaw Pact/NATO at the end of the cold war.
    Really enjoying these vids. Keep it up dude!

    • @Kanabai1871
      @Kanabai1871 Před 7 měsíci +5

      Voting on peace deals from an alternate perspective seems like a really great idea

    • @lronhayden
      @lronhayden Před 7 měsíci +1

      Look at the description, there’s one you can join rn

    • @Donlot_
      @Donlot_ Před 7 měsíci

      @@lronhayden Will do! Thanks!

  • @Teag_Brohman15
    @Teag_Brohman15 Před 7 měsíci +15

    if you do The Cold War, you should have it be titled "How my Followers caused the World to End"

  • @shinsenshogun900
    @shinsenshogun900 Před 7 měsíci +26

    We did it chat, we saved what's left of the world order!

  • @Navegantetom
    @Navegantetom Před 7 měsíci +22

    russia and china, the countries that suffered the most under WW2 and were crucial in securing an allied victory, are surely gonna be incredibly happy with LOSING land in the peace conference lmao

    • @EliteWood1337
      @EliteWood1337 Před 7 měsíci +2

      fr in every single vote people are just screwing up Russia because of current events and it's really predictable and dumb.

    • @gengarzilla1685
      @gengarzilla1685 Před 7 měsíci +7

      That Manchurian Qing state is a humongous slap in the face too. Way more so than American Taiwan. It basically legitimizes Imperial Japan's illegal seizure of Manchuria and vindicates its puppet emperor Puyi, the deposed last Emperor of China, for collaborating with the Japanese.
      Honestly, this one might be an even worse decision than letting Poland keep both the east lands and interwar dictatorship. Embracing an artificial Japanese collaborationist "nation" in the postwar world will *absolutely* go over well at the peace negotiations.

  • @explodethebomb
    @explodethebomb Před 7 měsíci +118

    Honestly I don't think we did too badly with this one, with the exception of the Soviets being rather unhappy, which may lead to more conflict in the future

    • @wires-sl7gs
      @wires-sl7gs Před 7 měsíci

      And that they balkanized India, meaning China will likely be the sole future Superpower of Asia sooner or later and will be able to divide and conquer India Diplomatically, and the same with Indonesia.
      But yeah, aside from that and being stupid about the Soviets, not too bad. Would of been more interesting if Poland and Czechoslovakia were Soviet Puppets, as well as the Baltic annexed by the Soviets, but oh well.

    • @Andrej-tt1yi
      @Andrej-tt1yi Před 7 měsíci

      No this is absolutly terrible. Italy and germany are carved up. Soviet discontend starts ww3 and possibly a nuclear war. India is balkanized making sure that china is the sole superpower in asia , indochina is probably breaking up with a civil war. mongolian chinese and manchu conflict are bound to happen.

    • @matthiuskoenig3378
      @matthiuskoenig3378 Před 7 měsíci

      It's 100% going to lead to conflict, I predict 1945/46

    • @rarescevei8268
      @rarescevei8268 Před 7 měsíci +2

      This is a horrible peace that will lead to instability in Asia, leave China as the dominant asian power, and will lead to irreparable damage from the 3rd world war.

    • @aslakskamsaraasen9407
      @aslakskamsaraasen9407 Před 7 měsíci

      also remember the us has nukes the ussr don't atlest not yet so stalins hands are tied

  • @KaiHung-wv3ul
    @KaiHung-wv3ul Před 7 měsíci +16

    Me: "Surely after the last two scenarios, people have learned their lesson and became sensible."
    Me: Sees the thumbnail....

  • @keizervanenerc5180
    @keizervanenerc5180 Před 7 měsíci +35

    Missed opportunity to let the Netherlands keep indonesia and then annex Malaya and the Phillippines as well (yes this was seriously an outcome possible by the poll).

    • @Bacony_Cakes
      @Bacony_Cakes Před 7 měsíci +9

      i tried to get us a hilariously funny border in northern japan (give japan the small islands and the russian island but give russia hokkiado)

    • @gameingboy9541
      @gameingboy9541 Před 7 měsíci +1

      ​@@Bacony_Cakessame

    • @Bacony_Cakes
      @Bacony_Cakes Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@gameingboy9541 i also tried for hilariously pathetic prussia (there are only two prussian states, one is memel, and the other one is seperated from memel by huge poland)

    • @VonGinger
      @VonGinger Před 7 měsíci

      @@Bacony_Cakes I Gave Britain Eritrea and Somalia, but let italy keep ethiopia

  • @Sami-uw9jb
    @Sami-uw9jb Před 7 měsíci +14

    Woah your editing skills have improved a lot dude, congrats

  • @shadow_hunter1004
    @shadow_hunter1004 Před 7 měsíci +38

    As a german, having Germany, dissolved once again pains me, after hundreds of years we are finally united and 70 years later everything is gone again. Tho realistically after 70 years of unification the people would probably want to reform Germany.

    • @michaeljancuch4204
      @michaeljancuch4204 Před 7 měsíci +14

      As an Austrian, getting to puppet german states is the best timeline

    • @emsproviero
      @emsproviero Před 7 měsíci +8

      as a bavarian independence is the best timeline

    • @edelweiss7928
      @edelweiss7928 Před 7 měsíci

      @@michaeljancuch4204 nah, Hitler brought you the best timeline in 1938 already 😎

    • @edelweiss7928
      @edelweiss7928 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@emsproviero 🤓

    • @kioley1233
      @kioley1233 Před 7 měsíci +3

      Yeah, but here's the age old question, under the Austrian habsburgs or the prussians (again).

  • @RandomSlovenianSoldier
    @RandomSlovenianSoldier Před 7 měsíci +18

    RIP the kids that would then have to name all nations, flags, regimes and capitals of those new nations. Very nice video, really enjoyed voting in the votes ☺

    • @gengarzilla1685
      @gengarzilla1685 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Assuming these nations last up to 2023 (and that's a huge ask), we'd have had 78 years to get used to this.

  • @rtwfreak2012
    @rtwfreak2012 Před 7 měsíci +8

    Holy moly Italian and German nationalism is gonna have a fieldday after this peacedeal.

  • @Hello_there5678
    @Hello_there5678 Před 7 měsíci +11

    I love these videos were you ask you’re viewers to choose the borders of Europe and we see how they play out.

  • @thinkforamoment770
    @thinkforamoment770 Před 7 měsíci +13

    Considering all the post viewer map predictions where very good so far and that ww1 is one of my favourite historical periods, i definitelly did the survey. Though do be warned, I tried to make the scenario as dificult and incomprehensible as posible (And even so im sure it will make for great content, love your vids by the way)

  • @CivilWarMan
    @CivilWarMan Před 7 měsíci +26

    Possible History: Ok, viewers, let's vote on redrawing the borders of the Axis powers after WWII in order to ensure peace.
    Viewers: (vote to unilaterally invade Spain)

  • @alphabetaomega265
    @alphabetaomega265 Před 7 měsíci +9

    Can you have us vote for the peace treaty of WW3, which will inevitably happen immediately in this scenario?
    Thanks

  • @aahckxsse7007
    @aahckxsse7007 Před 7 měsíci +1

    very good as always, may i suggest for the next one (or at least the one after next, as i see the poll is already out) you use a voting system other than plurality

  • @NewDealChief
    @NewDealChief Před 7 měsíci +1

    I love these types of videos from you. Keep at 'em!

  • @bruhmoment5304
    @bruhmoment5304 Před 7 měsíci +12

    if this really happened, history lesson would get A LOT harder, but i think more people would study.

  • @mushroomy9899
    @mushroomy9899 Před 7 měsíci +13

    i just tried to make yugoslavia as absolutely gigantic as possible.

  • @datdumbguy1067
    @datdumbguy1067 Před 7 měsíci +17

    I feel like I should hate the viewers. But at the same time this was funny, so I forgive everyone, including myself.

  • @lronhayden
    @lronhayden Před 7 měsíci +8

    Where’s the continuation? It’s not out yet

    • @MrToymaster1
      @MrToymaster1 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Maybe they meant the 21st

    • @lronhayden
      @lronhayden Před 7 měsíci

      @@MrToymaster1 that makes sense

    • @wikiacount8697
      @wikiacount8697 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@lronhayden he said this saturday in the video maybe he postponed it

  • @ethancantwell8549
    @ethancantwell8549 Před 7 měsíci +5

    For some reason I love the delivery of the lines at 5:23 .

  • @rufustrukhin3894
    @rufustrukhin3894 Před 7 měsíci +5

    "Peace in our time"
    - You, probably

  • @arx3516
    @arx3516 Před 7 měsíci +2

    The best way to settle the borders after WW2 would be to: 1) Give all of Africa, the Balkans, and all the territories of the late Ottoman empire to Italy;
    2) Give all of central, northern and eastern Europe, along with the entirety of Russia, to Germany;
    3) Give all of Asia (except Russia) to Japan;
    4) Unify Ireland;
    5) Give the entire anerican continent, both north and south to Spain;
    6) Transform Britain, Australia and New Zealand into parking lots.
    This in my opinion would have ensured peace, prosperity an justice to the world.

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado3430 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Amazing can't wait for more!

  • @Evovite
    @Evovite Před 7 měsíci +3

    its gonna be fun to see the soviets go on a rampage in eastern europe during the cold war video

  • @ReviRroyalist
    @ReviRroyalist Před 7 měsíci +26

    As an Indonesian myself I personally hated how the viewers chose the fate of my beloved home country

    • @cpt.john_price
      @cpt.john_price Před 7 měsíci +15

      Indonesian balkanization is one thing, but that greater malaysia tho 😭

    • @oliverreinisch704
      @oliverreinisch704 Před 7 měsíci +7

      On behalf of everyone who voted to balkanize Indonesia. My bad bro

    • @Brandon_TG_Smith
      @Brandon_TG_Smith Před 7 měsíci +1

      At least you got independence

    • @starlightbutthealt8991
      @starlightbutthealt8991 Před 7 měsíci +2

      I honestly do not forsee the Borneo states surviving for very long, Malaysia will most likely annex them.

    • @sifangwuhai
      @sifangwuhai Před 7 měsíci

      hiduplah melayu raya😊

  • @Chaotic_Fragment
    @Chaotic_Fragment Před 7 měsíci +7

    This the first one i’ve taken part in
    _Let’s see how much chaos we have unleashed…_

  • @firepeppey9056
    @firepeppey9056 Před 7 měsíci +7

    Did he mean NEXT Saturday?

    • @wikiacount8697
      @wikiacount8697 Před 7 měsíci +1

      he said this saturday in the video maybe he postponed it

  • @nope1959
    @nope1959 Před 7 měsíci +6

    the war to end all wars they said. now we start to understand why the world wars are a franchise.

  • @cod_portuga3980
    @cod_portuga3980 Před 7 měsíci +11

    I love the fact that every option I choose became reality

    • @dougfowler1368
      @dougfowler1368 Před 7 měsíci +1

      I came pretty close, too. Only problem would be occupation zones, but maybe Stalin gets to play with Prussia.

    • @pouletvert8707
      @pouletvert8707 Před 7 měsíci +19

      You have absolutely no taste

    • @cod_portuga3980
      @cod_portuga3980 Před 7 měsíci +3

      @@pouletvert8707 Why is that?

    • @lronhayden
      @lronhayden Před 7 měsíci +2

      @@pouletvert8707🤓🤓🤓

    • @Xcrindelle
      @Xcrindelle Před 7 měsíci +1

      ​@@lronhaydencringe

  • @Stormgamer-xb7gv
    @Stormgamer-xb7gv Před 7 měsíci +1

    Hey i have a question. What happened to the Alternate History Guild youtube channel?
    Love your vids btw ❤

  • @onodera3964
    @onodera3964 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Will you repeat this with history youtubers? I loved your Congress of Vienna, might as well do a Potsdam too.

  • @ironredsword1618
    @ironredsword1618 Před 7 měsíci +7

    Guys would it be funny if we balkanized the map as much as possible

  • @thechromeassasin9517
    @thechromeassasin9517 Před 7 měsíci +4

    I love how this completely guarantees a ww3

  • @OdinJut
    @OdinJut Před 7 měsíci +4

    i am so glad to have been one of the people at this peace conference

  • @trippfields279
    @trippfields279 Před 7 měsíci +2

    One video concept I think you could explore is an "alternate end" peace deal. Like maybe one where Napolean wins instead of loses, Central Powers win ww1 etc. Could be funny.

  • @t.hurson2298
    @t.hurson2298 Před 7 měsíci +4

    Yugoslav wars are gonna be fun in this timeline.

  • @lordedmundblackadder9321
    @lordedmundblackadder9321 Před 7 měsíci +3

    most realistic HOI4 peace deal

  • @twistingelm1341
    @twistingelm1341 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Greece is such a satisfying shape

  • @archstanton3931
    @archstanton3931 Před 7 měsíci +11

    Divides the Raj along ethnolinguistic lines.
    Creates Burma with modern borders.
    XD

    • @EliteWood1337
      @EliteWood1337 Před 7 měsíci +4

      Yes, because the Burmese government will definetly respect and tolerate all ethnicties, religions, and languages within their borders, and not commit genocide!! 🥰

    • @gengarzilla1685
      @gengarzilla1685 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Balkan Raj on one end and United Indochina on the other is just pure insanity.

  • @567secret
    @567secret Před 7 měsíci +4

    I really wanted to give all of the region of Prussia to Poland but that wasn't an option.

  • @KobeRogers-vw8nx
    @KobeRogers-vw8nx Před 7 měsíci +1

    Yay my vote was in also new subscriber

  • @jaanpeeters879
    @jaanpeeters879 Před 7 měsíci

    Love this new video formate!

  • @VonsOtherStuff10
    @VonsOtherStuff10 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Lesson Learned,Possible History Viewers Hate Russia Even If The Russians Had Good Intentions

  • @Ocelot835
    @Ocelot835 Před 7 měsíci +4

    Surely the conflict between Poles and Soviets would be inevitable with such borders, but I doubt it will end in WW3. Stalin would pressure for extra consetion but if he will see collective disapproval from the West I think Moscow will take step back to not provoke another war - IRL that was the case with Iran and Turkey.
    Main question is, will the Cold War even happen? The Red meanece is less present, Europe isn't divided in half and Soviet Union have less geopolitical advantages to successfuly pressure their ideology on others

    • @gengarzilla1685
      @gengarzilla1685 Před 7 měsíci

      ...yet. The fate of China is still up in the air and I bet Stalin will want a pro-Soviet government to win it just to spite the west.

  • @im_funny2510
    @im_funny2510 Před 7 měsíci

    this was great to vote for. i just voted for the most chaotic souloutions where comusism is everything

  • @DDodo280
    @DDodo280 Před 7 měsíci +2

    Can you make future polls more colourblind freindly? It was really confusing to fill out.

  • @dragon55017
    @dragon55017 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Not even 10 seconds in, and I already know we've started WW3, I'll report back when I finish watching.
    Dear god I was right

  • @gabacat
    @gabacat Před 7 měsíci +4

    As a Pole, I see this as a neutral ending.

  • @jeffreypethtel5467
    @jeffreypethtel5467 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I find it particularly fascinating the monarchies return and with them the Hohenzollern dynasty. For a few years until they boot him out, King Micheal of Romania is also still of that Dynasty, maybe in this timeline he can exile in Germany instead of Switzerland, maybe the monarchy in Romania even stays or comes back? It was actually incredibly popular at the time and after the fall of communism, so much so that the post Romanian Revolution leaders barred Micheal from coming back out of fear everyone would want him back.

  • @Lawfair
    @Lawfair Před 7 měsíci

    I am absolutely thrilled you included several of my favorite options for the postwar division of the old world, in the new survey, however I have to admit to being disappointed that two of my favorites didn't make the cut... no option for France to annex Spain, nor an option for Portugal and Hanover to join the United Kingdom.

  • @dasmodem887
    @dasmodem887 Před 7 měsíci +4

    still better than post ww2 hoi4 peace deals

    • @hiplsnols4394
      @hiplsnols4394 Před 7 měsíci

      less communism and a decent amount if balance in the world

  • @italianpc4119
    @italianpc4119 Před 7 měsíci +4

    That division of Istria made no sense. You gave the majority italian areas to Yugoslavia and the majority slovene areas to italy. I think you, Possible history, got it wrong in the drawing of the map, because you say "southern part will remain in italy" but instead do the opposite to the map.

  • @idontdeservesubs2637
    @idontdeservesubs2637 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I can't believe I missed this notification, oh well work was busy anyway

  • @jommydavi2197
    @jommydavi2197 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Where do I find these polls??? I've not seen anything in my feed!

  • @socialistrepublicofvietnam1500
    @socialistrepublicofvietnam1500 Před 7 měsíci +25

    Here before the premiere, judging by the thumbnail, my predictions about a greater Prussian kaiserreich were absolutely right
    Edit: My predictions were absolutely right

  • @shelishar
    @shelishar Před 7 měsíci +5

    Por lo más sagrado, nunca dejes que tus seguidores vuelvan a elegir las fronteras del mundo

  • @jaggelion4301
    @jaggelion4301 Před 7 měsíci +2

    You should do viewer decided alternate history peace deals as well

  • @RegentOfGreece
    @RegentOfGreece Před 7 měsíci +2

    3:05 "Until now, we used to say that the Greeks fight like heroes. Now we shall say, the heroes fight like Greeks." (This was an awesome video, but we aren't cry babies.

  • @PanosB67
    @PanosB67 Před 7 měsíci +5

    Truly one of the peace conferences of all time...

  • @GreenTheori
    @GreenTheori Před 7 měsíci +5

    Im glad Czechoslovakia isnt communist this timeline

    • @Honza58
      @Honza58 Před 7 měsíci

      True... even though I tried to vote for larger Czechoslovakia with Silesia included (even though I sacrificied Slovakia to the communists...)

    • @GreenTheori
      @GreenTheori Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@Honza58 ...

    • @GreenTheori
      @GreenTheori Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@Honza58 you seriously replaced slovakia with silesia

    • @oliverreinisch704
      @oliverreinisch704 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @@Honza58 Trying to replace Czechoslovakia with Czechosilesia is cursed and based af

    • @Honza58
      @Honza58 Před 7 měsíci

      I would name it... Lands of the Bohemian Crown.
      I mean... sure it's cursed... but is it really worse than what happened in the video? :D

  • @brenobassocenci6571
    @brenobassocenci6571 Před 7 měsíci

    This was incredibly satisfying to watch.

  • @jenanacremepie
    @jenanacremepie Před 7 měsíci +2

    Aaand this is why the internet doesn't get to make foreign policy decisions for governments

  • @zikon4625
    @zikon4625 Před 7 měsíci +4

    I'm surprised the final map is literally 80% of what i voted

  • @boaoftheboaians
    @boaoftheboaians Před 7 měsíci +3

    Possible History, will a part 2 of the Africa Viewers scenario be done? Or has that been cancelled?

  • @dashietheplushcat
    @dashietheplushcat Před 7 měsíci +1

    I'm glad I finally took part in one

  • @LoganLS0
    @LoganLS0 Před 7 měsíci +2

    If I was in charge of the Anglo Americans I wouldn't have given a single ounce of Lend Lease to the Soviets or declared war on Finland. And I would've given as much support as possible to the Poles, Norwegians, and Greeks.

    • @plasmakitten4261
      @plasmakitten4261 Před 7 měsíci +1

      I'm sorry, but you have created a German victory.

  • @schmalettesm3264
    @schmalettesm3264 Před 7 měsíci +4

    Crazy how the viewers peace deal is better for Germany than the real one