What If Germany Just KEEPS Trying...
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I love the nice touch of Romania gaining Bessarabia! Thanks! I think Poland might have gotten it's old borders in the east though... Also poor Germany! 😂
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This is basically what happens when you give a person who doesn't take defeat too well to play Hoi4
This is what happens if hoi4 was vaguely realistic
@@snomcultist189 Idk if such mod exists but there could possibly be a mod that makes the peacedeals a tad bit more clean
Or you always just use console and Player Led Peace Conferences
Oh, like me
@@snomcultist189 If you think this scenario is vaguely realistic, you don't have a good grasp of reality.
@@FlawlessFlaw Its not meant to be, its if germany was stupid enough to try over and over again.
Okay, this scenario is whacky, every single part of this scenario more preposterous than the last, but I love that Czechoslovakia is out there intermittently eating popcorn, watching its neighbour disintegrate, and being invaded. I also adore how apparently, nukes don't exist in this world.
didnt you understand this is a troll video?
this is possibly the most land czechoslovakia ever got in a (non czechoslovakia focused) alternate history scenario
He knows it's a troll video,most troll videos don't have nukes, and if ww3 did take place in early 1950's-1960's, then the ussr is destroyed early enough in which they can't make nukes, or the ones they have they can't use
Czechoslovakia won, but at what cost...
Ironically, I don't believe countries are likely to use nukes in wars at all, even if it's a world war. Fear and mutual respect for the other's world destruction power prevents everyone from initiating the nuclear war.
I believe even a great power would not use nuclear weapons even to save itself from defeat, because the consequences for using them would be worse than just accepting defeat.
"the germans performed much better, than anyone could have imagined"
"despite facing france and britain (and russia)
"in the US-americans came"
"terretories torn away, economic destruction, military refuction and political humiliation"
"germany cried out loudly"
"after 20 years if peace, the dark clouds of conflict..."
Every world war ever
and in the americans came
These repeating lines kind of even make the video sound a like a poem.
“Insanity is doing the exact same thing, over and over and over again, expecting something to change”
-Vaas Montenegro
Part 2:
“The Americans performed surprisingly well”
“Despite facing the rest of the world”
“Then the Martians came”
“Territories torn away, economic destruction, military reduction and political humiliations”
“USA cries out loud”
“Then after 20 years of peace, the dark clouds of conflict ….”
This probably one of if not the most dystopian liberal victory althist scenario ive ever seen
this video was uploaded 5 minutes ago! how did you comment 10 hours ago?
@@RandomPersonOnThisPlatformChannel Member I think
Fall of the old world, rise of the Columbian Empire.
😅
I've got a fan fic in my head where Napoleon wins the Napoleonic wars in a landslide, and then the continental system is reorganized is a co-Empire (like Austria-Hungary) between France and Germany in the 1840s. This super state then completely dominates mainland Europe, eventually conquering the British Isles, all of Africa, the Middle-East, Greater Russia, Greater India , and only stopping at around China and Japan because they would develop nukes by then. America would also be spurned on by the French to conquer the Americas in their pro-Napoleon anti-everyone who is against Napoleon (especially the British) zeitgeist. The Map looks like the map of Code Geass, but Europa United is more OP than Britannia and Britannia is liberal.
One must imagine Germany happy
we just want our place in the sun!
@@Wertzuioactually gave me an idea: in case Germany goes rouge and loses again, how about we found a German state in the actual Sun so they get their "place in the sun"?
@@biharek7595 The clouds of conflict will once more... brighten the skies and the lands of earth?
The sun blasting solar powered orbital satellite, Germania, scorches the whole of Earth into a glassed wasteland
We are so peaceful because we have our place in the sun to place our towels on (Mallorca)
@@biharek7595 if that means we get our own dyson sphere i'm all here for it
I like how Switzerland was just chilling and then randomly got annexed by America
If you look closely you see that Switzerland resists in 1 pixel worth of land
@@FusionCyborg ah i see
@@FusionCyborgna na that's obviously Liechtenstein!!
@@ShadowOfThePitNo it ain't.
Oic. .w.
Seems both Switzerland and Liechtenstein, resisting American takeover.
The United States global policy basically being *"The Germans can't have nice things"* is hilarious
Taking after their mothercountry
Take a shot for every:
"The Germans performed much better than anyone could have expected"
"Then, in the Americans came"
"Economic destruction, military reduction and political humiliation"
"Germany, cried out loudly "
"The dark clouds of conflict approached the once peaceful continent" too
Halfway the video and I would have liver problems
dont forget "And the peace deal was gruesome"
I dno't regerret tihs
*dies*
I love how this whole video is just "The peace deal was gruesome."
in came, the usa
the germans, were so close to victory
"The Germans cried out loudly"
This scenario in a nutshell:
> Germany angry
> Germany starts a world war and does better than expected
> AMERICAAAAAA
> Germany crippled and loses land
> repeat
Exactly
Repeat until Germany is America
Making their enemies ailles
I love how America didn’t even want the territories, but just took them because they were tired of fighting in Europe
United States: "Guys stop"
Western Europe: "Nuh uh"
United States: "Fine"
*Erases western Europe*
Idk why but this is a scarier timeline than most other dystopian timelines i’ve seen. Great video
Maybe because of the millions who died in all the world wars and the devastation that happened in Western Europe
This would take second place for me. The no no Germans winning WW2 is still unbelievably more terrifying
We live in the most dystopian rn tho
@@mr.originality1005 that’s the good ending
Wrong. Finally Europe gets to be cool raaaah 🦅
Well they did, they just went for diplomatic and economic domination instead of a military one
They learned from austria
Here in the Netherlands some people like to meme that we're just a German Bündesland (state).
@@LeyrannBundesland* no ü ;).
Much love from Germany ❤️🇪🇺
Ja mein Freund
Considering the backlash they got after so long of depending on Russian resources, their current economy, and their horrific demographics, I think Germany has failed in all fronts.
"Europe had become indistinguishable from the American mainland" aw hell nah
nah they'll try again
It already is because the us is from Europe
@@minestar2247 in what way?
@@Makarosc the USA speaks a european language and have european culture, so they practically are the same
This deeply offends me
Yugoslavia sharing a border with the US is both extremely cursed and beautiful
Is it because they both have the same color?
@@The_whalesAlmost the same colors. If you look more closely USA has a more blasted blue and Yugoslavia has a more faded blue
USA being ultra-nationalist and willing to crush 1848-style revolutions and annexing western europe is based
And then, the americans came
Germany, France, and Italy are Balkanized, but the actual balkans somehow stays unified lol
>Spain and Portugal avoid getting vored by America
>Common Iberian W
"If we don't move they can't see us"
Spin and Portugal randomly joining the war
I just realized that America annexed Switzerland at the end. Now I'm sad, Switzerland never even joined any wars😥
I guess America just hates Switzerland for no reason
RIP the lad
Probably just did it to prevent the border gore.
Not entirely...there's still two pixels of Switzerland left.
This is truly (one of) the most horrifying alternative history I've ever seen. America in Europe? I shudder even thinking about it. I'm glad we live in this timeline and not the one from the video.
There are American soldiers stationed across western Europe; we are under occupation.
@@M_DunNot the same
@maxjames2923
Sure buddy, spending on public services and letting the Americans do the international security is a bad thing.
@@snomcultist189yes it is. I don't want you here, you are as bad as Russia. Just look at what you did to Iraq
America is already in Europe in a way, and Europe is the source of america
Great video but as a german this scenario was just sad to watch.
I agree
As a french to
As an italian too
As a Brit too
As an American, this was a great scenario
That's what Whatifalthist thinks is gonna happen to Europe
Average whatifalthist video:
lol true
whatifalthist isn't THAT pro-America
@@youtuber-tg1pu he said multiple times that Europe will descend into chaos and America will come in and slowly integrate Europe into it's sphere
@@Emane899 also don't mention teens not able to reproduce will cause the US to collapse in civil war
France: Germany tried to invade me!
America: Then Germany's power should be limited.
Europe: Germany is seeking revenge!
America: Then Germany should be split in two!
Russia: Europe has united with Germany!
America: Then Europe should be balkanized!
Europe: *tries to start a revolution, but pitifully fails*
America: Then I shall take over Europe.
Another extremely cursed scenario: everyone in Europe has had enough of the US.
@@barrett.50caliber
America: *Then I shall turn all of Europe into American States and there shall be no difference between America and European America.*
America is the secret evil here
@@kairosdoe386Another cursed scenario: The US accidentally clicks "release all" and the entire world is balkanized
@@kairosdoe386The 28th Amendment will rename the United States of America into the United States of Earth
From New York to Berlin, from Los Angeles to Vladivostok, from sea to shining sea, the Star Spangled Banner shall wave proudly, the American Century has ended, but the Terran Century has only just begun
This really takes, "History Repeats itself" to an extreme
Americanised Europe has always been an underrated dystopian idea and it needs be explored more.
Americanised anything is dystopian
@@Kromiball As an american...
Thats funny
@@Kromiballas an American, Ima need you to explain that
It’s the reality we live in
@@edelweiss7928 yes
But no
"The peace treaty was humiliating."
"The Germans performed much better than anyone could have possibly expected."
"But when German victory seemed assured, in the Americans came."
Edit: And who could forget, "After 20 years of peace, war came once more to the European mainland." and "Germany cried out loudly." "Economic destruction, military reduction, and political humiliation."
Lol Germany would just hate America for all eternity in this timeline
And German language die out
"In this timeline" ... German here. We already do, especially after NordStream. Ami go home.
@@alsob1062wdym?
@@alsob1062I thought the Ukes did it?
@@Writer_Productions_Map Everybody knows that the US blow up NordStream, our traiterous government in Berlin was possibly involved as well.
One must imagine Germany happy.
Kaiser the Sisyphus...
Suggestion man: What if Franz Jospeh was killed by the assasin and his brother maximilian became Emperor?
good idea
@@webelmapping yea
Would France still invade Mexico?
Then the german flag would mean
Black: Oktoberfest
Red: Red Baron
Gold: Precision Engineering
Green: winning all 5 world wars
nope it'll either be a recolor, or theamerican coaty of arms on the blue fields which the latter seems like america would do
What German flag?
You die if you fly it.
they wouldn't have a flag at this point lol.
“I’ll finally win!”- Germany
America- “hello there”
OVER THERE, OVER THERE, SAY WORD SAY THE WORD OVER THERE
"Ah, General Kennedy, we have been expecting you".
@@ThePikminCaptainTHAT THE YANKS ARE COMING, THE YANKS ARE COMING, A RUM TUM TUMMING EVERYWHERE.
“You fool, I have been trained in your “World War” Arts by Great Britain.”
germany just never knows when to give up yet somehow they still become one of the strongest countries in all of europe still how?
The schizo hyperborean spirit inhabits all Germans
theyre just getting massive zenkais. Thats how- they have a buff when they recover from defeat (stacks)
High population, culture that induces a good work ethic, high degree of industrialization, strategic (central) location, larger than the neighbors it shares the most-developed continent in the world with.
Economic imperialism
Common mein reich Europa W
germany: then lets ally with america
the world cried out loudly
The peace deal was gruesome. Territories torn away, economic destruction, and political humiliation
Germany rebuilds because it is just Germany and this time there is no US to stop it
The USA is now land given to the Mexicans, fr*nch, bri'ish and Indian tribes
I wonder what would happen if the European theatre was fought as if it was WW1 2.0. No Blitzkrieg. The Invasion of France works under the German logic that initially estimated the French campaign would take a year.
impossible France was too powerful and was already playing the long game in at the end of 1914
@@ommsterlitz1805 I never said the Germans would win in a year. I said they would be waging war under the same logic that the Germans thought were using that made them estimate that the war would last 1 year. Think of what I said in the same way as me saying the generals of WW1 in 1914 tried to fight WW1 under the same logic as the Napoleonic wars with some adjustments. Sorry for not being clear.
I do agree with you partially. I wonder how the boom in German population and the increased levels of mechanisation in the context of WW1 era fighting would cause such a war to play out. The loss of a quick victory will doom the Nazis, and I wonder if there might be another, to put it in their terms, mutilated peace for the Germans to cut their losses, or perhaps they try turning the Western front into a meat grinder and hope the allies agree to let Germany have their eastern European holdings. Depending on how the war goes, the allies might agree to the latter out of fear of the soviets being proportionally stronger than the depleted allies. To put it another way, the allies fell into the trap the Soviets set with the implications of the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact. While Blitzkrieg as a method of waging war would be developed a year into this war, it wouldn't be able to be implemented with anywhere near the same effectiveness in Western Europe.
@@lljkgktudjlrsmygilug That would apply to France though, Germans already had given up the Napoleonic tactics as soon as 1866 war with Austrian Prussian war, only France though more of fighting gloriously than reinventing tactics, only the catastrophic casualties in insane bayonet charge against machines guns and shrapnel artillery of the 1870 war were Germans were ducking and shooting in prone position from a km away this was forbidden in France army despite having better guns and technology they used the same tactics and ww1 forcibly made France change it's tactics as they were doing the same.
@@ommsterlitz1805 My expression of Napoleonic warfare was a little exaggerated. I'm probably remembering a stupid exaggeration I heard in high school. The Franco-Prussian war is definitely more in line with how the French initially perceived WW1 to be at the start of the war. To go back to the initial comment, how do you think such a WW1 2.0 would play out?
@@lljkgktudjlrsmygilug Massive use of gas and chemicals attacks via bombers and artillery targeting both the well defended trenchs and the industrial cities, it would be much worse for everyone involved in the end with millions more deaths. Germany would have won not by reaching Paris but thanks to it's industrial capabilities to produce enough gas to make entire cities get emptied out in just a week, depending on the casualties of the Luftwaffe with this tactic being more deadly than any bombs, Uk might have been forced to also sign an armistice just like France did after a massive launch of Bombers and V1 and V2 filled to the brim of poisonous gas canisters. A very grim scenario in the end.
I love that America just gets tired of Europe and just takes it
"fine, i'll do it myself"
Someone should have told the Germans the definition of insanity
It is the line of thinking in which "Germany is so big for Europe and so small for the world" and "If Germany is not a world power then there will be no Germany" taken to the extreme.
Germany: I declare war.
The USA: How many times do I have to teach you this lesson, old man?
Britain and France: stand down this time if you wanna fight Germany youl have to fight us too along with Italy we are the 4 European Great Powers it’s 4 of us and 1 of you stand down
@@MCLegend13 TFW when they too get balkanized lol
funny enough, the usa is older than germany by about a century
America: "How many times do we need to teach you this lesson old man?!"
Germany: "I love the young people."
Spain in this universe: Back to Back World War Champs, awarded Most Nationalist Nation in Europe four decades in a row.
They fr just be eating popcorn in the background while Catalonia is biting their ankles...
Continuation of the scenario: about 20 years after Western Europe is integrated into the US, discontent festered, leading to all of Western Europe seceding at once.
This is then followed by the Southern US, Texas, and California all seceding separately, because a 2nd American Civil War with at least 3 factions must be included in every alternate history scenario.
I think since this is Europe-focused, it should be western Europe rebelling with the help of Poland and Russia, as they fear America conquering the rest of the continent, it fits with the "Germany sought out new allies, coincidentally both former enemies" vibes and kinda makes more sense.
would the "in, the americans came" even work anymore now that this is the 6th time
The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results
Damn, I'm usually pretty sympathetic to the US, but this is....this is.....just....horrifying.
Well, Europe has themselves to blame.
@@Legend21for Yeah, I guess.
@@Legend21forWW5, anyone?
And the US trying to fully incorporate Europe? We haven’t done that with Puerto Rico, you know, that one island we own in the Caribbean? Trust me when I say it would make TNO’s Russian warlord states look like a calm debate with how much guerrilla force there would be.
@@TheRepublicOfDixionconderogai know this is an old comment, but what makes this scenario realistic to me is the US only takes territory after, like, world war 4. There wouldnt be a factory in western europe able to make more than a large truck. The population of Europe would be halved, if not quartered, after nearly a century of brutal war. Annexation and integration would be breif. Because there would not be enough numbers, nor sadly will, to resist at that point.
This is on the same level as “they locked me in a room, a rubber room, a rubber room with rats, and rats make me crazy.”
In order to ensure the security and continuing stability, europe will be reorganized into the first European states of America! For a safe and secure society!
First European empire of America.... ultimate pow-ah...
Ignore the Europeans rebelling in the background!
We Europeans would rather die free than live In American Europe because if Europe is known for anything, it's for inventing nationalism
I would love you to structure this as a proper 'What if' scenario. This is great.
this is a proper what if to me
Fun fact: Germany declared war on the US and even facilitated their invasion at the war only not to see it's people under the Soviet Union's hands, japan surrendered to the us for the same reason when the USSR invaded Manchuria
America: “GUYS CAN YOU FUCKING STOP FOR 5 MINUTES”
Europe: "ONLY WHEN YOU FUCKING STOP INTERVENING FOR 5 MINUTES"
WW1 WW2 WW3 WW4 occupation of Europe
"The dark clouds of conflict": 0:19 2:16.5 5:55 8:41 10:11
"The Germans performed much better than anyone could have imagined.": 0:52.5 4:23 6:23 8:49.5
"In came the Americans": 1:20.5 4:41.34 (6:49) 8:59 (10:28.5)
"The peace deal was gruesome.": 1:34 5:01 7:23.33 9:38.5 10:46
"Germany cried out loudly.": 1:50 5:15 7:41 9:58 10:02.5
Wow, the ending may just be the most dystopian I have seen so far, great video as always!
Well there are worse plus I'm sure America wouldn't oppress the Europeans still having your land and territory stripped away power gone is probably one of the worst fates Europe could get
Ah, yes, the "someone forgot to turn off the loop machine" scenario.
this is actually a sad story to me
yea the WW5 music didn't help
Conflict>Harsh Peace Treaty>Anger>New Ideology>Conflict
(Conflict broke down)
Germany performs much better than expected>Germany about to win> *IN THE AMERICANS CAME*
This might just be the most painful neoliberal dystopian scenario ever lol 😅
This is less what if Germany kept trying and more of America won just because.
Holy fuck how can someone make US victory so dystopian
Well, 1984 Oceania is the US
@@TheRepublicOfDixionconderogathats britain
@@Atykhros and the USA.
@@TheRepublicOfDixionconderoga yes
@@AtykhrosI think the US either unifies with Britain or annexes them
This ending is like your average American hoi4 player
“Sir we won the war! What should we do with the countries?-“
“States.”
“What?”
“American states.”
America: “how many times do we have to teach you this lesson old man?”
Lol
I love how far your videos have come since the whatifalthist video. Keep it up!👍
Mobile version of HOI4 without a time limit. This map, especially near the end, looks like the Napoleonic wars, and then what Napoleon would consider a worst case scenario for the continent.
Try, try again. It worked for Scotland which is where the saying supposedly originated from. Robert the Bruce watched a spider repeatedly try to build it's web in the mouth of a cave while it stormed and the little thing was pelted over and over by rain drops. Also this is Fallout-ish history.
"The peace deal was gruesome"
-Possible History, 2023
Amazing video as always! Idea: What if the sixtus affair was successful and blessed karl saved the empire?
I've always wondered this
most of the video
''the peace deal was gruesome, germany cried out loudly''
Timeline:
1914 - Start of the First World War
1918 - End of the First World War
1939 - Start of the Second World War
1945 - End of the Second World War
1966 - Start of the Third World War
1970 - End of the Third World War
1991 - Start of the Fourth World War
1997 - End of the Fourth World War
As an American, I see this as an absolute win!
Pls not, It would be worse than Afghanistan to maintain under control
He said it got Americanized in 2 generations it isn't as hard as you think
As a European, I see this as a war crime to just turn hundreds of thousands of years worth of countries into amer*can states
Even I as an American find this scenario to be horrifying.
Yeah, both for the Europeans living in the US and Americans dealing with whatever sh!t collateral damage they would get from us “pacifying” all of the rebellions from the different cultures.
"American werhaboos cried out loudly. So, discontent festered."
And as Germany was about to take the last strip of land to unify eroupe. IN, THE AMERICANS CAME. Also I love how Switzerland did nothing wrong but still got absorbed into America.
America didn't like the German gold because anything German is an enemy of the US
This is the most terrifying alternate history I've ever seen
They should have never tried in the first place maybe they would have had most of Europe way earlier than our timeline
This would be an interesting what if, if Germany would try to conquer Europe through economic power and diplomacy instead of military
@@FedericoGrimaudo Agreed, it surely would
German experince:
😁--->😅---->😐----->😧----->💀
Lol that comment made my day a little better 😌
i love how he just keeps repeating lines
Germany is like me to my crush, persistent yet always failing.
I highly doubt you have a crush
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Because you have a wife king😎🗿👑
@@arrielradja5522 I wish LMAO
One must imagine Germany winning a world war
What if Germany lost ww1?
Impossible. The allies could have never stopped the Germans at the Catastrophe at Marne.
That's the most unrealistic scenario I've ever heard of!
Idk
at around 10:55 i was honestly waiting for PH to say
"Europe was reorganised into THE FIRST GALACTIC EMPIRE"
2:21 “The once peaceful Continent”. My kind of humour. 😂
As an American, this is very dystopian
you misspelled utopian
@@BoliceOcciferyou misspelled dystopian
@@BoliceOcciferNO ITS DYSTOPIAN YOUR THE ONE WHO MISSPELLED IT
Switzerland: what just happen?
America: your next
This german faction is way too op
7:51 Reading the “What if Pokémon were real?” Made me excited but then I thought what would a Pokémon Holocaust look like and I got less excited
Something I noticed that was according to this video poland was given the german land but it was actually a good chunk after the war where poland took the land from a weakened germany. Just thought id point that out 😊
This reminds me of Walter White. He originally cooked to help his family but then he got power hungry and turned into a kingpin, like Germany.
Day two of: what if history went PREFECT for poland?
However much sympathy I have for Poland, it is impossible between Russia and Germany
@@FedericoGrimaudothe simple answer is the PLC survives via reform in their system to not be influenced by outsiders so much
@@FedericoGrimaudo Dude, the position of Prussia/Germany for most of its history was much worse than Poland, Poland disappeared from the world map for 123 years due to the lack of centralized power.
when does history 2 starts?
I really like learning these History speculations
This is actually tragic.
Lesson today:Be scared when someone say American came.
Could you make a video on “what if the polish-Lithuanian-Swedish commonwealth succeeded ”
Well 90% of gamblers quit before they win big
This war would be gruesome and tense, but the Germans performed much better than expected
As German victory seemed assured, the Americans prepared their counter offensive
After their allies collapse, the Germans had to surrender, and the war was over
The peace deal was gruesome. Territories torn away, economic destruction, military reduction, and political humiliation
Germany cried out loudly
And so, after twenty years of peace, the dark clouds of conflict once again returned to the continent
Germany sought out new allies, coincidentally, both former enemies
This war would be gruesome and tense, but the Germans performed much better than expected
As German victory seemed assured, the Americans prepared their counter offensive
After their allies collapse, the Germans had to surrender, and the war was over
This was depressing, and I say this as a Yank.
as a german this video caused me intense physical pain
this is me in victoria 3 everytime i lose i just ramp up millitary production until i win or go bankrupt
Even if the ending is gruesome, I kind of understand the Americans, it's like trying to keep little kids in check only for them to cause twice as much chaos every time you try to correct them
Anyone else laugh for a solid minute from 0:54 to 1:09 with Bulgaria?
Expected a fully fleshed out serious video and got a wacky troll video.
I still enjoyed it though and to be fair, Germany's third try actually sounded realistic.
Never back down never give up
What if Germany kept on winning? Basically the opposite of this video.
Well Germany would be an economic and military superpower, With Western Europe as puppets and the East and Africa as its playground
The german empire would take over the world and make global Kaiserreich
That sounds good
The Annexation of Western Europe was just the first step in renaming the planet to "America".
America: See Germany rising again
America *Sign* Johnny get your gun...