If they wanted a female herald for Galactus, there already is one in the comics (Nova aka Frankie Raye) and her inclusion could be really good. As the girlfriend of Johnny Storm who learns she has a past tied to his and powers a lot like his, she would introduce some great dramatic tension. The movie (like the comic) could show them bonding over Johnny showing Frankie how to use and come to grips with her powers, the two of them becoming really close, before Frankie decides to become the herald of Galactus. A move that devastates Johnny. It could be a really good, powerful story arc. But I forget, Marvel Studios doesn't do arcs anymore, especially ones where the female characters grow. They come in as girl bosses and let us know that we should be ashamed for not recognizing how amazing they are. Too bad. The introduction of Frankie could be really good, powerful and introduce a female character could care about. Easier (for Marvel) to just genderswap the Silver Surfer and tell us we should care.
Good idea, but they most likely won't since Marvel/Disney is still planning on doing a Nova(Richard Ryder) movie or series and didn't want the confusion that is if they don't gender swap Ryder as well.
that is precisely who the character is meant to be… as opposed to this pearl-clutching clickbait outrage damning the MCU for smthng they are not doing 💤🙄😴 seriously dull watching these foghorns pipe on about nothing of substance other then generating more negativity around films that do not deserve it…
Things just keep getting better and better. And by better i mean absolutely horrifically worse. For every news I hear from Marvel, the more I sink into depression and I never thought Marvel of all people would make me feel this way. This is betrayal. Marvel please, for love of Stan Lee and everything he stood for, Why? just why?
I concur. compelling characters and writing is what is needed. I grew up with Linda Hamilton as Sarah Connor (Terminator) and Sigourney Weaver in Alien(s) series. Tough, compelling, well written characters. I'd be extremely torqued off if anyone attempted to reboot those films with a male protagonist.
Thanks for your stand on this! The reason they do the gender-bending is probably that you just cannot fix STUPID. I want more of the cool, historically-female Marvel characters like Black Widow, Mystique, Rogue, Wasp, Storm, Jean Grey, etc, etc. But, NOT at the expense of historically-male characters. I guess their next stunt will be to give us a Trans-Galactus.
FriendlySpaceNinja posted a video about CW’s Supergirl starring Melissa Benoist that I feel is one of the most prominent early examples of senseless gender-swapping. The most standout line in that video was that the CW didn’t write Supergirl; they wrote a female Superman. The differences between Superman and Supergirl’s characters in the comics were so much more than just gender. Their entire personal history, upbringing, and personalities all significantly contrasted each other. This contrast is what made Supergirl’s relationship with Superman and their interactions so interesting because readers were able to see two very different perspectives on how Kryptonians live amongst humans. However, all that is lost in the CW show where Supergirl is basically given Superman’s backstory and personality with only slight superficial differences and the only relationship she has with Superman is when he’s used as a measuring stick for them to compare heroics. Talk about lazy, uninspired writing.
Agreed with that being said THATS THE CW WRITING FOR YOU. 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️ Arrow was Dollar Tree Batman with many of Batman villains,storylines and traits but GREATLY watered down.
It was in Doctor Strange also with The Ancient One. Don't get me wrong, Tilda is great, but they didn't have a good reason to make that change. The irony is that they also race swapped the character too, as TAO was originally Asian 😂
@@FriendlyBatDoom That's unfair, at least in part. Arrow started out pretty badass in the first couple of seasons. Sadly it went downhill pretty quickly from there.
@@mnomadvfx it’s 100 percent the truth and fair. Firefly, Brother Eye, Bronze Tiger, Talia, Anarky, Ra’s Al Ghul, Dollmaker, Deadshot, and his relationship with Waller and Constantine. They didn’t trust accurate GA could get it done while also not being able to get Batman. So they utilized his villains, storylines and traits. Ra’s Al Ghul is his name as his real name is lost to history. It’s not a title to be passed down to successors as he’s leads for 700 years. CW writing basically all he does is walk around with his arms behind his back. This Ra’s Al Ghul walks and talks in a way a dumb person would when trying to portray wisdom, intelligence and being regal. Like a fortune cookie with their messages. You can look this up Ra’s Al Ghul was created to be Batman’s Moriarty (intellectual villain) the potential end all villain. He’s a foil villain to Batman. They mainly only looked at the Batman Begins film and thought let’s do that but worse with a mixture of some of the comics version. Comic Ra’s Al Ghul like Batman is an super genius polymathic intellectual scientist first and a legendary Grandmaster level ninja/Kung fu warrior with great integrity second. Batman like Ra’s want to rid the world of crime, corruption, pollution and restore nature they just have different ways to try and accomplish their goals. Comic Ra’s wants to cull like 90 percent of the human population to do it and we know that Batman is definitely not on board with that leading to their respectful but brutal conflict. Having those things in common is why he is why he wanted Batman to be his heir. Ra’s Al Ghul was intrigued by Batman that’s why he tested him through his intellect, warrior prowess and morality. Thinking that we wanted but couldn't have Batman let's just use a powerful Batman villain and water him down to make the hero competent. This is why I ABSOLUTELY HATE his portrayal in Arrow CW because they FUNDAMENTALLY misunderstood him. So they had to water him down for Oliver to be competent. In Arrow, he was just an immortal ninja warlord with an army of assassins. Since they couldn't get Batman (S-Tier) they instead utilized the B team with Oliver (Green Arrow) and took away Ra’s Al Ghul intellect and morals by having him look for his heir with a sword prophecy. Batman doesn’t need a stupid sword prophecy that allowed someone as immoral as Malcolm Merlyn become the new leader of the League. They should have used a Green Arrow villain. If Ra’s Al Ghul was written like his INTELLECTUAL comic book version he would’ve clowned team arrow. Once Maseo turned over the virus and told him about the vaccine Ra’s himself would’ve bioengineered the virus to make it stronger and overcome the vaccinated. Then released it on Star City just like he to Gotham with the Ebola A virus in the Batman Contagion story. This Ra’s didn’t even take this into consideration because he’s a dummy. Lastly the whole destroy the city because all of the past Ra’s Al Ghul had to was stupid. So I have to destroy my home to become Ra’s Al Ghul what real purpose does that have? Like it was an initiation even if he came from a good place with wholesome people.
LMFAO. The Silver Surfette!! I'm going to have to borrow that one. Goddam Snarky got some good punchlines. Maybe they gonna introduce Nova which was the female Herald of Galactus. She's got cosmic powers and fits the M-She-U agenda. But don't quote me on this
I'm assuming that she's gonna be Nova, not Silver Surfer. NOT EVEN Kevin Feige is crazy enough to twist an iconic character like that into a female. More than likely the FF movie will have them facing multiple Heralds of Galactus like SS, Nova, Obsidian etc, and the FF will definitely need the help of Dr Doom to stop them from ushering in Galactus.
Nah, she's too exotic looking. Not saying she wouldn't kill in it, but they'd be wasting ATJ in that when she'd fit so much better as someone like Elektra.
i remember the rumors about galactus would be female, and now silver surfers is supposedly gonna be female, why not just change the team name to the formidable five while you’re at it
@@nunoboss8The Incredibles in characters are similar. But FF property is bad in movies. Sure Fox duology was enjoyable but we didn't get a proper great FF movies.
I completely agree with your position. That is why I saw all the movies up until Endgame and just two after that and I can't remember their names (to show how good they were). The Studios only see cash and their execs are so arrogant and greedy that they stopped understanding what gave them money in the first place. They are a dying industry sadly.
Nah nah nah… she makes so many great points!! ❤ preach! I also hate how they make the same argument that these movies and shows fail because MEN don’t want a strong woman… lol. We love them! We just don’t want them shitting on men to make themselves appear better. Give us more Ripley’s, Wonder Woman and Sarah Connor’s 🎉
When a studio goes and gener bends a character, it almost comes off as if they couldn’t write a good enough female character, so just took a pre established male one to save on effort and time. Or is that just me?
In my opinion it depends. There is a difference between just gender swapping a character, and saying good enough (Representation); and changing the character to female and working to build that character. For example Ronald D. Moore decide to gender swap a character, but him, the writers, and the actress worked hard to make the character something more. Thus Dirk Benedict and Katee Sackhoff character's share the same name, and a few characteristics, but the really are written as different characters. I think most fans found Kara "Starbuck" Thrace an interesting character and a positive part of Battlestar Galactica.
@@johnbox271 Starbuck was one of the very few where they actually put effort into her character. Her character was more fleshed out than that of the male Starbuck, Dirk Benedict. She was a complex character with many faults to overcome. Not even close to being a Mary Sue.
@@protorhinocerator142 Agreed. Will they do that with a female Silver Surfer, I have grave doubts. As KK would say, but a chick in it, make her gay and lame. 😉
I am of the view that the “strong female” is not a woman given masculine qualities but a woman without typically feminine ones. The result is someone obnoxious, more villain rather than “HERo”.
As a kid my favorite team was the FF. The tons of great stories that are so rich with action, pathos, powerful story arches. The fact they have such a rich rouges gallery. Disney Marvel just wants to ish all over it. If I could? I'd send a ton of egg plant over to Disney Marvel and may they all chock on it...the egg plant has a certain significance, but many here will figure that out
I know everyone has their own opinions on what a strong female characters look like but I think Wonder Woman, Jyn Erso, Princess Leia are good examples. No Mary Sue element to them, no pushing a male bashing agenda, just good strong characters with storylines that make sense. Love your videos Snarky Jay, keep the content coming ❤
I have to admit that the "Snarky" thing left me indecisive at the beginning, but it turns out you're a solid talent with well-reasoned insights. Consider me a bonafide Snarky Jay fan! Keep up the good work.
Hi Jay, I think the problem , with Disney and many otters today, is that they are run by people are not creative themselves. If Walt Disney were still running the company, he would strive to tell only stories he and his fans wanted. To make said stories, he would surround himself with other creatives. Sadly Walt is long gone, and his dream is now overseen by bankers. When bankers are presented with something , like The Fantastic Four, that they bought rather then created, , they ask is," How much will we make, and, how will it take to see profit?'" Unlike Disney , they are more interested in how many boxes get ticked and what it will cost. We have reached a point where we have " creatives" who do not know how to create a compelling character,so, they do this instead. LOVE YOUR WORK!!!
I feel the same with race and sex swapping characters. There are so many other characters of all sorts of races and genders out there to adapt. I think the problem is Hollyweird is afraid they can't write these characters well or are entirely to lazy to try or some combo there of.
Totally agree with you and finally a woman who knows her stuff, my thing is why can they go with Nova or Stardust who happens to be the Heralds of Galactus. My son mentioned the What If scenario is which Galactus chose the wife rather than Radd aka Silver Surfer but I'm not buying it. Thanks again for your thoughts, love them. So true
There are two female heralds of Galactus that I know of. First one is Frankie Raye aka Nova (no not Richard Rider Nova) who got her powers from the inventor of the original android Human Torch and had her memories and powers repressed intil she started dating Johnny Storm. The second is Juno who is from another universe, specifically universe 829, and supposedly the granddaughter of a deceased Hercules. She's the only who basically looks like a gender swapped Norrin Radd (Silver Surfer). So they'll either just genderswap Norrin, or use either one of those. Also Galactus will be in it but je won't be a brown fart cloud this time around and i dont think he'll debut and be killed off in the same movie. Maybe if he shows up with 4 heralds right off the bat: Nova, Juno, Firelord and Silver Surfer, then it could be interesting. Perhaps Norrin has a change of heart and helps the FF against the other three and Galactus and the three get defeated or killed and Galactus yeets off somewhere; maybe a Celestial shows up or the Beyonder himself beckons him. Or maybe it'll just have none of that and stilll suck 😂
Frankie Raye is the female herald I know of. If they want a female herald she would be a good choice, but they won’t do that. Disney will gender or race swap established characters because it’s what they do.
If we're going crazy let's bring all the heralds, let's bring air walker, Morg, terrax and every other herald we can fit on their budget. I would like to see cosmic ghost rider too but that's a bit of a stretch😅
It’s so clear that they hate these characters and only want to destroy them for the only people that ever truly cared about them. I hope they get what they deserve.
Whenever, they make a movie or TV show from the source material whether it is a book, comic book, short story or original movie/TV show. They always ADAPT IT FROM SOURCE MATERIAL. And in the process it losses alot of the magic that made the original good. They have decades of some excellent Fantistic Four stories with dialog and storyboards called comic books. Just film them in live action with as few changes as possible. Nuff said
A great Commentary! I agree that that Silver Surfer does not need to be the Silver Suffragette! There are many other female heroes in Marvel that could be focused on. A lot of the female heroes that have already been in movies could have been better if they weren't so busy trashing men to elevate themselves. Why can't all the heroes be presented just like they were in their respective comic books? That's what sold the characters, the books, and the earlier Marvel movies. Review the formula that was used to make Iron Man 1, Captain America 1, and Thor 1and then use that proven formula to make all the new movies. If Disney and Marvel don't get it right with the next round of movies, they will completely lose the fans/moviegoers.
the original Silver Surfer had a truly tragic story arc,he essentially gave up being with the people he loved in order to save his planet from consumption via an all powerful celestial entity… by becoming Galactus’ herald,he also saved other life sustaining worlds from the same potential fate… it is a fact that after he was banished because of his principles that his former position was filled by a number of replacements,including some that were female,for a proper reboot to be produced,respect to Lee & Kirby’s original FF saga should be a priority…
My one and only gripe with your video is I don't think you needed to defend yourself at all. Every point you made is spot on, they need to make badass female character's. They already have a massive source to go off too. Rogue for instance should've been introduced to Captain Marvel, that arc would've been amazing to see play out in a movie. I don't remember any pushback for the phoenix's saga which was a really well done movie and even the older movie where Jean was played by Famke Janssen was amazing imo. Now I've heard rumors that deadpool3 is getting tainted as well by writers, this whole shitshow is destroying everything they built.
and exactly why those serious nerds are made fun of, MCU literally is a separate universe from comics, if different universe in comics themselves change stuff why can't the movies?
I know it didn't have the best visuals or production but the early 1990s Fantastic Four movie done on the shoestring budget still remains the best adaption because of the heart of the script and actors.
I’ve been a fan of the FF since I was a kid reading their comic books in the 70’s. Literally nobody is mad about Sue Storm being a female, and nobody is claiming she should be gender swapped. I find it the height of irony that people will complain that the fans want the Silver Surfer to remain a male character, when he’s been a male character for over 50 years!
Don't know what all the fuss is about, Beach Boys have been singing about her since 1963: We could ride the surf together While our love would grow In my Woody I would take you everywhere I go So I say from me to you I will make your dreams come true Do you love me do you surfer girl
I am biased towards Classical interpretations of comic book characters. So, out of every gender swap of a comic book character, the Silver Surfer bothers me the least. Symbolically the feminine is closer aligned with the raw, chaotic (perhaps divine) force of the Power Cosmic. Channeling it into order is something classic associated with the masculine, but better illustrated by Galactus, imo. Also, as the Surfer progresses and his feets become more and more complex and generate greater causalities, to the point where he creates lifeforms. He, in effect, becomes an agent of chaos, and thus more classically feminine. I’m not naive enough to believe that this is the logic they’ll go with, cause “diversity is our strength” but yeah, in a vacuum, the gendswap doesn’t bug me TLDR: gender swap fine, female characters better align with chaotic-good archetypes.
It doesn't bother you because you are weak and desensitized to just having these swaps done out of convenience. And if you want what you propose, better to just create your own characters as pastiches.
Heartbreaking news. Silver Surfer has always been an all-time favourite of mine. Another movie I will not be attending or renting, or a single cent going to any of their merchandise for this,
I'm a 40+ year old super geek that has the money and family to spend it on and what was a family tradition of watching Marvel movies together now has been abandoned as nobody in my family myself included no longer enjoys any of them. Save Loki we are but over going to ANY marvel movie. Good job Disney and Marvel you lost an entire geek family.
The problem I have with this decision is that it signals the ongoing problem that Disney is ashamed of its source material and audience. Leaving that aside, Silver Surfer, even if Disney changes their mind on the sex change... He's not a good starter villain. He's too powerful a threat, and locks them into the Galactus storyline too early. It is a decision which reminds me of what went wrong with the DCEU - the creators being in too much of a rush. The first movie already has to establish four superheroes and the dynamics between them. Personally I'd go with Mole Man, he was the first in the comics after all. While in the comics the Silver Surfer starts out as a FF4 villain, I'd actually save him for an Avengers movie.
What's funny is the first half of the F4 reboot was good. I can actually pin the moment it fell apart. At the moment, Reed Richard's escapes the test facility, it completely falls apart and becomes so bad.
To this day I'm still confused as to why anyone would think "re-imagined for modern audiences by subverting expectations" is a good working model for entertainment. Every single time it's resulted in bad writing, boring characters and a litany of "you're evil if you don't love this" marketing ... followed by ever-decreasing box office returns. . And the old "all publicity is good publicity" doesn't hold true when it's 99% saying "this is garbage" and 1% whining about "representation" (that same 1% never buys tickets by the way).
I totally agree. On a side note, for me the big problem with the Fantastic Four is that they all have cool powers--except for Reed Richards. Having an elastic body is just plain goofy. It looks silly and it's hard to have him do anything with it that isn't silly. So I'm not sure a Fantastic Four movie can work even if they do it responsibly.
Ty! You articulated what I've been trying to say perfectly. I'm all about representation but not at the cost of established characters. So well said. Ty! 👏👏👏
She's not the 1st, Supergirl is Kara Zor-El, the cousin of superhero Superman. The character made her first appearance in Action Comics #252 (May 1959) and was created by Otto Binder and Al Plastino. How could be Superman's younger cousin when his planet was destroyed when he was a baby!?
That’s going waaaay to far! Silver Surfer is AWESOME! He is one of my favorites in the Marvel Universe, and was the best and only good part in the Fantastic Four movie.
The thing is, unless you are Google (or the like, and paid for views), "engagement" doesn't equate to money. So everyone in the world can talk about silver surfer, but if no one buys movie tickets, Disney makes no money from that.
The Silver Surfer is, and has been my favorite Marvel character since I was old enough to read comic books, back in the late 1960's. What made him interesting was the driving motivational force behind his entire existence - to reunite with his beloved wife, Clea. The gender differences in how a male vs. a female would choose to go about rebalancing the scales of justice after she was killed, or in stasis forever as was the case, leads to completely different outcomes if the Silver Surfer now is a woman, which completely and utterly fucks with not only the original story content, but loses the masuline drive to do anything it takes to once again be with the woman he loves - very different from what a woman would do. There is no equivalency and there never will be because men and women are both amazing, BUT DIFFERENT!!
It is like 14 year olds got a hold of a film production company, they think boobs and va*** will make everything better. Completely disregarding the fact that a good movie actually requires good written characters and a plot…
As usual, I completely agree. It’s just like, and I can’t say it enough, we finally get one of comics original characters, Namor the Submariner, and they give us Nacho Libre. WTF?!?!?!
Gender-swapping roles speaks to a larger problem, implying that the movie space (or comic movie space) is so small that we have to push out characters that were coded male in order to bring in other genders, when in fact the space is so much larger for all genders and orientations to begin with, starting from the media the movies originated from --- comics. The comics space already has TONS of presentation with original characters that are already diverse to begin with.
A Rogue Movie would be awesome.... her story.. we all know it.. cant touch another Human etc.. throw in Gambit as a love interest.. have her almost kill him... bring in a third love interest that she can touch etc.. give us an Edward v Jacob moment etc... kill one at the end... great movie.
I've been saying to myself recently the problem isn't a character getting their gender or race swapped, it's the unnecessary "woke" message that follows. I don't mind watching a movie about a woman saying to herself she can be just as successful as any man so long as she doesn't say it to anyone else. Unless the movie came out before 2000 we do not need to hear woman say they can do something better than a man. As a matter of fact, we need to hear them say is they can do it better than they thought previously or better than they did before.
I think a good reason for Disney Marvel to change normal Fantastic Four conventions is that the usual FF doesn't really work. The original movies were pretty close to canon but still are considered disappointing. The 2015 was devoted to the Ultimate Comics property and that is considered a joke. Even the comic doesn't sell well unless a top tier writer is involved. So there is little incentive for the studio to stay devoted to comics with Fantastic Four.
Holy crap Snarky Jay sound soooo much like Shoe on Head / June Nicole Lapine! Fun voice and speech mannerisms to listen to while gaming, glad I found this channel. :)
Great discussion. Funny, but the writer's of Amazon's Reacher seem to have written pretty decent female characters into the show that integrate nicely with their male counterparts without unnecessary put downs. A female isn't the de facto group leader, but a critical team component, and Maria Sten plays her character with strength, guile and intelligence.
It's not like Marvel didn't make female versions of characters throughout its history (ever hear of spider woman?). Why is it automatically such a problem when it's done in a movie?
Back in 1966 I was 12 years old when I read my first Silver Surfer comic book and he has always been my favorite. If the MCU does this I will consider it blasphemy to the work and storytelling of Jack Kirby. There is no need to change what has already been established.
Peoples need’s to calmed down !!! for those who are hardcore Marvel’s Fan, know that because at first there was Frankie who was the Silver Surfer, and then with time the character changed to Norrin Radd ! So …..everybody calmed down !
I totally agree!!! If you want to add female heroines to the comic book universe then create a female superhero, do NOT take a beloved male superhero/antihero character and replace/remake him into some gender bent reprisal of our superhero.
Like i said with star wars, it simply boils down to either unimaginative or lazy ass creatives "changing"(ruining) another's characters and backstory and getting paid and praised as if they've created something new or improved upon something.
First I would like to say that I’m watching your video for the first time and I’m going to subscribe to your channel because I totally agree with what you’re saying. We need to have more female support on this topic. Keep up the great content. 😎
There are five good reasons to make the silver surfer a woman. 1. BlackRock 2. ESG score 3. Money 4. Publicity 5. Being able to call anyone who doesn't like your movie an -ist and -phobe, does cementing your superiority and infallibility.
One of my favorite comic book characters of all time and I see absolutely NO REASON to change Silver Surfer to a woman and the Movie will be DOA for me upon release.
If Reed is truly being played by a man, my guess is they make him the villain. Not only can't they write, they're so afraid of their inability to write they have to "twist" everything to try to distract you.
This is one of the things I hate, when their justification is "It's about time we had a woman Doctor Who/James Bond/Mad Max/John Wick... why??? Why cant these things just be and if someone is so bent out of shape about it, make their own thing?
The reason Marvel Comics characters have become so popular is because those characters were created by comics creators that loved comics They had passion for creating comics that entertained and not catered to political agendas. If a character is popular and you want to make a movie, make that movie and do not change that character to appease a minute number of hateful people! We comics fans want to see the ORIGINAL character portrayed on the big screen just as he or she was created in the comics by comics creators who loved what they did. Cheers. AGL
I'd be happy to see the cast of the first two Fantastic Four films get another go around. Alba got too much BS for not being a blonde white girl when cast, but she was a big enough name thanks to her film and TV outings of the time, and the dynamic between her and Gruffudd was fun.
saw a picture of bald anya taylor joy and thought when are they going to cast her as Bjork?, they already had a movie of Anya with Bjork ( The Northman). The "silver lining" (zinger!) could be that Silver Surfer is basically nudd save for silver body paint. If the film makers thought this was too sexist--- even with the flippin no hair thing lol--- they could model her silver surfer off of the Japanese Butoh dances so both women and straight men equally would be disturbed, but the weird in-betweeners would be like "ohh yeah" 🎶 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The fantastic four literally started the marvel universe, they were the first marvel book, in the early 60s, maybe 1960, it sold so well that jack and stan expanded from there
I like your point thank you. I believe the main problem with female characters in comics is that they arent ever written by women in the first place so some have an unrealistic feel because thier lines and responses are written to push forward tbe story alone and dont nessesarily have any real personality in them. But changing silver surfer to a woman feels like a slap to the creators face, y diddnt they use silver surfer's nova instead? as a character she had an awesome ability as she was a mutant before galactus changed her and she isnt well known so they could have had her origin on another planet
If they wanted a female herald for Galactus, there already is one in the comics (Nova aka Frankie Raye) and her inclusion could be really good. As the girlfriend of Johnny Storm who learns she has a past tied to his and powers a lot like his, she would introduce some great dramatic tension. The movie (like the comic) could show them bonding over Johnny showing Frankie how to use and come to grips with her powers, the two of them becoming really close, before Frankie decides to become the herald of Galactus. A move that devastates Johnny. It could be a really good, powerful story arc.
But I forget, Marvel Studios doesn't do arcs anymore, especially ones where the female characters grow. They come in as girl bosses and let us know that we should be ashamed for not recognizing how amazing they are. Too bad. The introduction of Frankie could be really good, powerful and introduce a female character could care about. Easier (for Marvel) to just genderswap the Silver Surfer and tell us we should care.
Good idea, but they most likely won't since Marvel/Disney is still planning on doing a Nova(Richard Ryder) movie or series and didn't want the confusion that is if they don't gender swap Ryder as well.
That's exactly who it's going to be
Omg thank you for mentioning nova
that is precisely who the character is meant to be… as opposed to this pearl-clutching clickbait outrage damning the MCU for smthng they are not doing 💤🙄😴 seriously dull watching these foghorns pipe on about nothing of substance other then generating more negativity around films that do not deserve it…
Exactly, You know what's up. Funny how the people in charge of making these movies don't. Painful for us real fans.
Things just keep getting better and better. And by better i mean absolutely horrifically worse. For every news I hear from Marvel,
the more I sink into depression and I never thought Marvel of all people would make me feel this way. This is betrayal. Marvel please,
for love of Stan Lee and everything he stood for, Why? just why?
Betrayed me worse than an ex, SMH.
Oh God thats way worse XD @@snarkyjay
Silver Suffragette
@@snarkyjay Doomed...nice reference...
Cuz diversity & inclusion!
Don’t forget equity!
I concur. compelling characters and writing is what is needed. I grew up with Linda Hamilton as Sarah Connor (Terminator) and Sigourney Weaver in Alien(s) series. Tough, compelling, well written characters. I'd be extremely torqued off if anyone attempted to reboot those films with a male protagonist.
Thanks for your stand on this! The reason they do the gender-bending is probably that you just cannot fix STUPID. I want more of the cool, historically-female Marvel characters like Black Widow, Mystique, Rogue, Wasp, Storm, Jean Grey, etc, etc. But, NOT at the expense of historically-male characters. I guess their next stunt will be to give us a Trans-Galactus.
Non binary would make sense (kind of, but not in the gaye way) but as you stated... they're STUPID 😂😂😂
FriendlySpaceNinja posted a video about CW’s Supergirl starring Melissa Benoist that I feel is one of the most prominent early examples of senseless gender-swapping. The most standout line in that video was that the CW didn’t write Supergirl; they wrote a female Superman. The differences between Superman and Supergirl’s characters in the comics were so much more than just gender. Their entire personal history, upbringing, and personalities all significantly contrasted each other. This contrast is what made Supergirl’s relationship with Superman and their interactions so interesting because readers were able to see two very different perspectives on how Kryptonians live amongst humans. However, all that is lost in the CW show where Supergirl is basically given Superman’s backstory and personality with only slight superficial differences and the only relationship she has with Superman is when he’s used as a measuring stick for them to compare heroics. Talk about lazy, uninspired writing.
Very well said, and I agree.
Agreed with that being said THATS THE CW WRITING FOR YOU. 🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️ Arrow was Dollar Tree Batman with many of Batman villains,storylines and traits but GREATLY watered down.
It was in Doctor Strange also with The Ancient One.
Don't get me wrong, Tilda is great, but they didn't have a good reason to make that change.
The irony is that they also race swapped the character too, as TAO was originally Asian 😂
@@FriendlyBatDoom
That's unfair, at least in part.
Arrow started out pretty badass in the first couple of seasons.
Sadly it went downhill pretty quickly from there.
@@mnomadvfx it’s 100 percent the truth and fair. Firefly, Brother Eye, Bronze Tiger, Talia, Anarky, Ra’s Al Ghul, Dollmaker, Deadshot, and his relationship with Waller and Constantine. They didn’t trust accurate GA could get it done while also not being able to get Batman. So they utilized his villains, storylines and traits.
Ra’s Al Ghul is his name as his real name is lost to history. It’s not a title to be passed down to successors as he’s leads for 700 years. CW writing basically all he does is walk around with his arms behind his back. This Ra’s Al Ghul walks and talks in a way a dumb person would when trying to portray wisdom, intelligence and being regal. Like a fortune cookie with their messages.
You can look this up Ra’s Al Ghul was created to be Batman’s Moriarty (intellectual villain) the potential end all villain. He’s a foil villain to Batman. They mainly only looked at the Batman Begins film and thought let’s do that but worse with a mixture of some of the comics version.
Comic Ra’s Al Ghul like Batman is an super genius polymathic intellectual scientist first and a legendary Grandmaster level ninja/Kung fu warrior with great integrity second. Batman like Ra’s want to rid the world of crime, corruption, pollution and restore nature they just have different ways to try and accomplish their goals. Comic Ra’s wants to cull like 90 percent of the human population to do it and we know that Batman is definitely not on board with that leading to their respectful but brutal conflict.
Having those things in common is why he is why he wanted Batman to be his heir. Ra’s Al Ghul was intrigued by Batman that’s why he tested him through his intellect, warrior prowess and morality. Thinking that we wanted but couldn't have Batman let's just use a powerful Batman villain and water him down to make the hero competent.
This is why I ABSOLUTELY HATE his portrayal in Arrow CW because they FUNDAMENTALLY misunderstood him. So they had to water him down for Oliver to be competent. In Arrow, he was just an immortal ninja warlord with an army of assassins. Since they couldn't get Batman (S-Tier) they instead utilized the B team with Oliver (Green Arrow) and took away Ra’s Al Ghul intellect and morals by having him look for his heir with a sword prophecy. Batman doesn’t need a stupid sword prophecy that allowed someone as immoral as Malcolm Merlyn become the new leader of the League.
They should have used a Green Arrow villain.
If Ra’s Al Ghul was written like his INTELLECTUAL comic book version he would’ve clowned team arrow. Once Maseo turned over the virus and told him about the vaccine Ra’s himself would’ve bioengineered the virus to make it stronger and overcome the vaccinated. Then released it on Star City just like he to Gotham with the Ebola A virus in the Batman Contagion story. This Ra’s didn’t even take this into consideration because he’s a dummy.
Lastly the whole destroy the city because all of the past Ra’s Al Ghul had to was stupid. So I have to destroy my home to become Ra’s Al Ghul what real purpose does that have? Like it was an initiation even if he came from a good place with wholesome people.
I vote for Jay to be the new Sue Storm AND she gets her own GoGurt! 🙌🏻
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LMFAO. The Silver Surfette!! I'm going to have to borrow that one. Goddam Snarky got some good punchlines. Maybe they gonna introduce Nova which was the female Herald of Galactus. She's got cosmic powers and fits the M-She-U agenda. But don't quote me on this
Yeah, jay is definitely hot❤😅
Come to think of it, she does look a bit like Jessica Alba….
AGREED!!!👍🏾
He sacrificed his humanity to save his beloved Sh'alla Bal. It's one of the most tragic stories that will be ruined.
She was talking about the Fantastic Four, but I couldn't help but notice the fantastic two. 🙂
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Yep
You're the kind of guy we women call creep and stay away from
@@flyingicarus6345 Oh FFS, grow up and while you're at it, grow a sense of humor.
@@azkikrx1 oh wow, great humor, another boob joke, so original and clever
It would honestly make more sense to cast her as Black Cat. She looks like her already
Honestly I just don't like the look of her.
It suited her well in that sci fi film Morgan, but outside of that she just looks disturbing to me.
I'm assuming that she's gonna be Nova, not Silver Surfer. NOT EVEN Kevin Feige is crazy enough to twist an iconic character like that into a female. More than likely the FF movie will have them facing multiple Heralds of Galactus like SS, Nova, Obsidian etc, and the FF will definitely need the help of Dr Doom to stop them from ushering in Galactus.
I was going to say Silver Sable...
@@mnomadvfxdisturbing is crazy😂
Nah, she's too exotic looking. Not saying she wouldn't kill in it, but they'd be wasting ATJ in that when she'd fit so much better as someone like Elektra.
Everything you just said is 1000 percent correct loved your thoughts and glad to see women with common sense speak on it
Thank you so much!
It’s also the fact there are female heralds of galactus that they are actively not using.
it has to be a popular character in order for the gender swap to take place,
@@wenpatxczcvzcsfc It has to be a popular MALE character
They will probably think silver looks too white, so they will make her a bronze surfer.
i remember the rumors about galactus would be female, and now silver surfers is supposedly gonna be female, why not just change the team name to the formidable five while you’re at it
We're never gonna get a good Fantastic 4 movie
You ain't kidding.
counter argument: The incredibles
@@nunoboss8The Incredibles in characters are similar. But FF property is bad in movies. Sure Fox duology was enjoyable but we didn't get a proper great FF movies.
I completely agree with your position. That is why I saw all the movies up until Endgame and just two after that and I can't remember their names (to show how good they were). The Studios only see cash and their execs are so arrogant and greedy that they stopped understanding what gave them money in the first place. They are a dying industry sadly.
Nah nah nah… she makes so many great points!! ❤ preach! I also hate how they make the same argument that these movies and shows fail because MEN don’t want a strong woman… lol. We love them! We just don’t want them shitting on men to make themselves appear better. Give us more Ripley’s, Wonder Woman and Sarah Connor’s 🎉
When a studio goes and gener bends a character, it almost comes off as if they couldn’t write a good enough female character, so just took a pre established male one to save on effort and time.
Or is that just me?
In my opinion it depends. There is a difference between just gender swapping a character, and saying good enough (Representation); and changing the character to female and working to build that character. For example Ronald D. Moore decide to gender swap a character, but him, the writers, and the actress worked hard to make the character something more. Thus Dirk Benedict and Katee Sackhoff character's share the same name, and a few characteristics, but the really are written as different characters. I think most fans found Kara "Starbuck" Thrace an interesting character and a positive part of Battlestar Galactica.
@@johnbox271 Starbuck was one of the very few where they actually put effort into her character.
Her character was more fleshed out than that of the male Starbuck, Dirk Benedict. She was a complex character with many faults to overcome. Not even close to being a Mary Sue.
@@protorhinocerator142 Agreed. Will they do that with a female Silver Surfer, I have grave doubts.
As KK would say, but a chick in it, make her gay and lame. 😉
Must be another universe where genders are reversed.
I am of the view that the “strong female” is not a woman given masculine qualities but a woman without typically feminine ones. The result is someone obnoxious, more villain rather than “HERo”.
As a kid my favorite team was the FF. The tons of great stories that are so rich with action, pathos, powerful story arches. The fact they have such a rich rouges gallery. Disney Marvel just wants to ish all over it. If I could? I'd send a ton of egg plant over to Disney Marvel and may they all chock on it...the egg plant has a certain significance, but many here will figure that out
I know everyone has their own opinions on what a strong female characters look like but I think Wonder Woman, Jyn Erso, Princess Leia are good examples. No Mary Sue element to them, no pushing a male bashing agenda, just good strong characters with storylines that make sense. Love your videos Snarky Jay, keep the content coming ❤
Honestly If she dyes her hair blonde I can see Snarky Jay as a young Sue Storm
I have to admit that the "Snarky" thing left me indecisive at the beginning, but it turns out you're a solid talent with well-reasoned insights. Consider me a bonafide Snarky Jay fan! Keep up the good work.
Hi Jay, I think the problem , with Disney and many otters today, is that they are run by people are not creative themselves. If Walt Disney were still running the company, he would strive to tell only stories he and his fans wanted. To make said stories, he would surround himself with other creatives.
Sadly Walt is long gone, and his dream is now overseen by bankers. When bankers are presented with something , like The Fantastic Four, that they bought rather then created, , they ask is," How much will we make, and, how will it take to see profit?'" Unlike Disney , they are more interested in how many boxes get ticked and what it will cost. We have reached a point where we have " creatives" who do not know how to create a compelling character,so, they do this instead. LOVE YOUR WORK!!!
Ok, best CZcams channel I’ve stumbled onto in a while. Let’s just get good movies again. Love the coverage on this
I feel the same with race and sex swapping characters. There are so many other characters of all sorts of races and genders out there to adapt. I think the problem is Hollyweird is afraid they can't write these characters well or are entirely to lazy to try or some combo there of.
Love your ongoing Fantastic Four content! 😘🥰😍💙
Thanks! Gotta keep the news going.
Hollywood "people really like Anna Taylor" Executives: put her in everything
They say the same thing about Pedro Pascal and now he's Mr. F
@@bkblair71I have major Pedro Pascal fatigue.
You just earned my subscription, enjoyed your take on the recent rumors. Keep them coming.
i would enjoy Jay being a super heroine !
Disney has so much money, they don’t care if this bomb like their last few movies!
Apparently they don't care if ANYTHING bombs, since that's what they keep doing!
Im just glad that snarky is now acknowledging the existence of the "M-SHE-U"
Totally agree with you and finally a woman who knows her stuff, my thing is why can they go with Nova or Stardust who happens to be the Heralds of Galactus. My son mentioned the What If scenario is which Galactus chose the wife rather than Radd aka Silver Surfer but I'm not buying it. Thanks again for your thoughts, love them. So true
“The clearance shelf at Best Buy” 😢😭 I wish that still existed.
All they have to do is update the graphics from the 2007 FF sequel and bring back Lawrence Fishburne to voice him again.
There are two female heralds of Galactus that I know of.
First one is Frankie Raye aka Nova (no not Richard Rider Nova) who got her powers from the inventor of the original android Human Torch and had her memories and powers repressed intil she started dating Johnny Storm.
The second is Juno who is from another universe, specifically universe 829, and supposedly the granddaughter of a deceased Hercules. She's the only who basically looks like a gender swapped Norrin Radd (Silver Surfer).
So they'll either just genderswap Norrin, or use either one of those.
Also Galactus will be in it but je won't be a brown fart cloud this time around and i dont think he'll debut and be killed off in the same movie.
Maybe if he shows up with 4 heralds right off the bat: Nova, Juno, Firelord and Silver Surfer, then it could be interesting.
Perhaps Norrin has a change of heart and helps the FF against the other three and Galactus and the three get defeated or killed and Galactus yeets off somewhere; maybe a Celestial shows up or the Beyonder himself beckons him.
Or maybe it'll just have none of that and stilll suck 😂
Frankie Raye is the female herald I know of. If they want a female herald she would be a good choice, but they won’t do that. Disney will gender or race swap established characters because it’s what they do.
If we're going crazy let's bring all the heralds, let's bring air walker, Morg, terrax and every other herald we can fit on their budget. I would like to see cosmic ghost rider too but that's a bit of a stretch😅
It won't have any of that because that would make it a good story, and marvel has proven they don't write those anymore.
Awesome and epic video thank you so much for making it ❤️👍
It’s so clear that they hate these characters and only want to destroy them for the only people that ever truly cared about them. I hope they get what they deserve.
Yeah… that makes sense
Whenever, they make a movie or TV show from the source material whether it is a book, comic book, short story or original movie/TV show.
They always ADAPT IT FROM SOURCE MATERIAL. And in the process it losses alot of the magic that made the original good.
They have decades of some excellent Fantistic Four stories with dialog and storyboards called comic books. Just film them in live action with as few changes as possible.
Nuff said
A great Commentary! I agree that that Silver Surfer does not need to be the Silver Suffragette! There are many other female heroes in Marvel that could be focused on. A lot of the female heroes that have already been in movies could have been better if they weren't so busy trashing men to elevate themselves. Why can't all the heroes be presented just like they were in their respective comic books? That's what sold the characters, the books, and the earlier Marvel movies. Review the formula that was used to make Iron Man 1, Captain America 1, and Thor 1and then use that proven formula to make all the new movies. If Disney and Marvel don't get it right with the next round of movies, they will completely lose the fans/moviegoers.
the original Silver Surfer had a truly tragic story arc,he essentially gave up being with the people he loved in order to save his planet from consumption via an all powerful celestial entity… by becoming Galactus’ herald,he also saved other life sustaining worlds from the same potential fate… it is a fact that after he was banished because of his principles that his former position was filled by a number of replacements,including some that were female,for a proper reboot to be produced,respect to Lee & Kirby’s original FF saga should be a priority…
My one and only gripe with your video is I don't think you needed to defend yourself at all. Every point you made is spot on, they need to make badass female character's. They already have a massive source to go off too. Rogue for instance should've been introduced to Captain Marvel, that arc would've been amazing to see play out in a movie. I don't remember any pushback for the phoenix's saga which was a really well done movie and even the older movie where Jean was played by Famke Janssen was amazing imo. Now I've heard rumors that deadpool3 is getting tainted as well by writers, this whole shitshow is destroying everything they built.
They don't realize how serious some people take comics. You cant just change the characters without expecting blowback.
and exactly why those serious nerds are made fun of, MCU literally is a separate universe from comics, if different universe in comics themselves change stuff why can't the movies?
I know it didn't have the best visuals or production but the early 1990s Fantastic Four movie done on the shoestring budget still remains the best adaption because of the heart of the script and actors.
Let’s not kid ourselves. It was awful.
I agree with you 1,000%, HOWEVER, if they make you the Silver Surfett, I'm buying my tickets in advance 😍🥰😘.
Feminomenal! Accurate AF!
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I’ve been a fan of the FF since I was a kid reading their comic books in the 70’s. Literally nobody is mad about Sue Storm being a female, and nobody is claiming she should be gender swapped. I find it the height of irony that people will complain that the fans want the Silver Surfer to remain a male character, when he’s been a male character for over 50 years!
If they use silver body paint. I'm all for it
The first question out of the mouth of every Disney writer on each of those projects is "What's the best way to fuck this up?"
Don't know what all the fuss is about, Beach Boys have been singing about her since 1963: We could ride the surf together While our love would grow
In my Woody I would take you everywhere I go
So I say from me to you I will make your dreams come true
Do you love me do you surfer girl
I am biased towards Classical interpretations of comic book characters. So, out of every gender swap of a comic book character, the Silver Surfer bothers me the least. Symbolically the feminine is closer aligned with the raw, chaotic (perhaps divine) force of the Power Cosmic. Channeling it into order is something classic associated with the masculine, but better illustrated by Galactus, imo.
Also, as the Surfer progresses and his feets become more and more complex and generate greater causalities, to the point where he creates lifeforms. He, in effect, becomes an agent of chaos, and thus more classically feminine.
I’m not naive enough to believe that this is the logic they’ll go with, cause “diversity is our strength” but yeah, in a vacuum, the gendswap doesn’t bug me
TLDR: gender swap fine, female characters better align with chaotic-good archetypes.
Philosophical nonsense.
Leave my comics alone!!!
It doesn't bother you because you are weak and desensitized to just having these swaps done out of convenience. And if you want what you propose, better to just create your own characters as pastiches.
The Panderverse continues. 🤣
For real.
Heartbreaking news. Silver Surfer has always been an all-time favourite of mine. Another movie I will not be attending or renting, or a single cent going to any of their merchandise for this,
I'm a 40+ year old super geek that has the money and family to spend it on and what was a family tradition of watching Marvel movies together now has been abandoned as nobody in my family myself included no longer enjoys any of them. Save Loki we are but over going to ANY marvel movie. Good job Disney and Marvel you lost an entire geek family.
"We don't need to put boobs on him to make him interesting" 😂😂😂
The problem I have with this decision is that it signals the ongoing problem that Disney is ashamed of its source material and audience.
Leaving that aside, Silver Surfer, even if Disney changes their mind on the sex change...
He's not a good starter villain. He's too powerful a threat, and locks them into the Galactus storyline too early. It is a decision which reminds me of what went wrong with the DCEU - the creators being in too much of a rush.
The first movie already has to establish four superheroes and the dynamics between them. Personally I'd go with Mole Man, he was the first in the comics after all.
While in the comics the Silver Surfer starts out as a FF4 villain, I'd actually save him for an Avengers movie.
The woman who plays sue strom needs to have that extra edge and hold ones attention! You have that quality jay!
What's funny is the first half of the F4 reboot was good. I can actually pin the moment it fell apart. At the moment, Reed Richard's escapes the test facility, it completely falls apart and becomes so bad.
To this day I'm still confused as to why anyone would think "re-imagined for modern audiences by subverting expectations" is a good working model for entertainment.
Every single time it's resulted in bad writing, boring characters and a litany of "you're evil if you don't love this" marketing ... followed by ever-decreasing box office returns.
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And the old "all publicity is good publicity" doesn't hold true when it's 99% saying "this is garbage" and 1% whining about "representation" (that same 1% never buys tickets by the way).
I totally agree. On a side note, for me the big problem with the Fantastic Four is that they all have cool powers--except for Reed Richards. Having an elastic body is just plain goofy. It looks silly and it's hard to have him do anything with it that isn't silly. So I'm not sure a Fantastic Four movie can work even if they do it responsibly.
The fantastic flop lol
They can but focus more on Reed's genius level intellect and his incredible inventions
Ty! You articulated what I've been trying to say perfectly. I'm all about representation but not at the cost of established characters. So well said. Ty! 👏👏👏
She's not the 1st, Supergirl is Kara Zor-El, the cousin of superhero Superman. The character made her first appearance in Action Comics #252 (May 1959) and was created by Otto Binder and Al Plastino. How could be Superman's younger cousin when his planet was destroyed when he was a baby!?
would love to see Tom Hollands Spiderman team up with the FF, always great comics
That’s going waaaay to far! Silver Surfer is AWESOME! He is one of my favorites in the Marvel Universe, and was the best and only good part in the Fantastic Four movie.
The thing is, unless you are Google (or the like, and paid for views), "engagement" doesn't equate to money. So everyone in the world can talk about silver surfer, but if no one buys movie tickets, Disney makes no money from that.
The Silver Surfer is, and has been my favorite Marvel character since I was old enough to read comic books, back in the late 1960's. What made him interesting was the driving motivational force behind his entire existence - to reunite with his beloved wife, Clea. The gender differences in how a male vs. a female would choose to go about rebalancing the scales of justice after she was killed, or in stasis forever as was the case, leads to completely different outcomes if the Silver Surfer now is a woman, which completely and utterly fucks with not only the original story content, but loses the masuline drive to do anything it takes to once again be with the woman he loves - very different from what a woman would do. There is no equivalency and there never will be because men and women are both amazing, BUT DIFFERENT!!
Clea? I thought Norrins love was Shalla 'Bal
It is like 14 year olds got a hold of a film production company, they think boobs and va*** will make everything better. Completely disregarding the fact that a good movie actually requires good written characters and a plot…
As usual, I completely agree. It’s just like, and I can’t say it enough, we finally get one of comics original characters, Namor the Submariner, and they give us Nacho Libre. WTF?!?!?!
Gender-swapping roles speaks to a larger problem, implying that the movie space (or comic movie space) is so small that we have to push out characters that were coded male in order to bring in other genders, when in fact the space is so much larger for all genders and orientations to begin with, starting from the media the movies originated from --- comics. The comics space already has TONS of presentation with original characters that are already diverse to begin with.
They should make a He-Hulk movie next
All i can think when Disney does this shit is, what would Walt think of the state of his beloved Disney these days
Staying true to the comics is the right way to go.
A Rogue Movie would be awesome.... her story.. we all know it.. cant touch another Human etc.. throw in Gambit as a love interest.. have her almost kill him... bring in a third love interest that she can touch etc.. give us an Edward v Jacob moment etc... kill one at the end... great movie.
I like Fantastic 4 - 2005/2007.
I've been saying to myself recently the problem isn't a character getting their gender or race swapped, it's the unnecessary "woke" message that follows. I don't mind watching a movie about a woman saying to herself she can be just as successful as any man so long as she doesn't say it to anyone else. Unless the movie came out before 2000 we do not need to hear woman say they can do something better than a man. As a matter of fact, we need to hear them say is they can do it better than they thought previously or better than they did before.
I think a good reason for Disney Marvel to change normal Fantastic Four conventions is that the usual FF doesn't really work. The original movies were pretty close to canon but still are considered disappointing. The 2015 was devoted to the Ultimate Comics property and that is considered a joke.
Even the comic doesn't sell well unless a top tier writer is involved.
So there is little incentive for the studio to stay devoted to comics with Fantastic Four.
Holy crap Snarky Jay sound soooo much like Shoe on Head / June Nicole Lapine! Fun voice and speech mannerisms to listen to while gaming, glad I found this channel. :)
Great discussion. Funny, but the writer's of Amazon's Reacher seem to have written pretty decent female characters into the show that integrate nicely with their male counterparts without unnecessary put downs. A female isn't the de facto group leader, but a critical team component, and Maria Sten plays her character with strength, guile and intelligence.
Someone Somewhere:"How dare you assume the silver surfer's gender you cisgender women" 😂🤣🤣🤣😂
I’m convinced that Disney is trying to destroy the value of all my comic books at this point
I completely agree, but man the gender switch worked out well for "The Boys" live action take with Storm Breaker
Love you, girl. Say it loud and strong. Appreciate you articulating your thoughts so well.
It's not like Marvel didn't make female versions of characters throughout its history (ever hear of spider woman?). Why is it automatically such a problem when it's done in a movie?
Back in 1966 I was 12 years old when I read my first Silver Surfer comic book and he has always been my favorite. If the MCU does this I will consider it blasphemy to the work and storytelling of Jack Kirby. There is no need to change what has already been established.
Peoples need’s to calmed down !!! for those who are hardcore Marvel’s Fan, know that because at first there was Frankie who was the Silver Surfer, and then with time the character changed to Norrin Radd !
So …..everybody calmed down !
They touched cosmo nothing is safe ,cosmo went from good boy to good girl 😂😂😂
I totally agree!!! If you want to add female heroines to the comic book universe then create a female superhero, do NOT take a beloved male superhero/antihero character and replace/remake him into some gender bent reprisal of our superhero.
Like i said with star wars, it simply boils down to either unimaginative or lazy ass creatives "changing"(ruining) another's characters and backstory and getting paid and praised as if they've created something new or improved upon something.
First I would like to say that I’m watching your video for the first time and I’m going to subscribe to your channel because I totally agree with what you’re saying. We need to have more female support on this topic. Keep up the great content. 😎
Now jay, that isn’t fair, you’re assuming that Best Buy will have a bargain bin beyond this year.
Meanwhile, Amazon is absolutely killing it with shows like The Boy's, and Invincible.
There are five good reasons to make the silver surfer a woman.
1. BlackRock
2. ESG score
3. Money
4. Publicity
5. Being able to call anyone who doesn't like your movie an -ist and -phobe, does cementing your superiority and infallibility.
One of my favorite comic book characters of all time and I see absolutely NO REASON to change Silver Surfer to a woman and the Movie will be DOA for me upon release.
If Reed is truly being played by a man, my guess is they make him the villain. Not only can't they write, they're so afraid of their inability to write they have to "twist" everything to try to distract you.
Uh ... what?
This is one of the things I hate, when their justification is "It's about time we had a woman Doctor Who/James Bond/Mad Max/John Wick... why??? Why cant these things just be and if someone is so bent out of shape about it, make their own thing?
That's cool that they decided to change yet another character. That's less money I have to spend at the movies.
The reason Marvel Comics characters have become so popular is because those characters were created by comics creators that loved comics They had passion for creating comics that entertained and not catered to political agendas. If a character is popular and you want to make a movie, make that movie and do not change that character to appease a minute number of hateful people! We comics fans want to see the ORIGINAL character portrayed on the big screen just as he or she was created in the comics by comics creators who loved what they did. Cheers. AGL
I'd be happy to see the cast of the first two Fantastic Four films get another go around. Alba got too much BS for not being a blonde white girl when cast, but she was a big enough name thanks to her film and TV outings of the time, and the dynamic between her and Gruffudd was fun.
saw a picture of bald anya taylor joy and thought when are they going to cast her as Bjork?, they already had a movie of Anya with Bjork ( The Northman). The "silver lining" (zinger!) could be that Silver Surfer is basically nudd save for silver body paint. If the film makers thought this was too sexist--- even with the flippin no hair thing lol--- they could model her silver surfer off of the Japanese Butoh dances so both women and straight men equally would be disturbed, but the weird in-betweeners would be like "ohh yeah" 🎶 🤣🤣🤣🤣
“From Heroes to Sheroes’ (DW)
The fantastic four literally started the marvel universe, they were the first marvel book, in the early 60s, maybe 1960, it sold so well that jack and stan expanded from there
I like your point thank you. I believe the main problem with female characters in comics is that they arent ever written by women in the first place so some have an unrealistic feel because thier lines and responses are written to push forward tbe story alone and dont nessesarily have any real personality in them. But changing silver surfer to a woman feels like a slap to the creators face, y diddnt they use silver surfer's nova instead? as a character she had an awesome ability as she was a mutant before galactus changed her and she isnt well known so they could have had her origin on another planet