Ask Zajef Standard Banner Edition
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0:00 Intro
0:27 Tighnari build rundown
5:14 If you could change Diluc's passive
6:48 Skyward weapons ranked
7:20 How much worse is Jean VV vs Kazuha/Sucrose
9:20 Kaeya vs Rosaria
11:54 Lisa C6
12:39 Has Amber's place changed with Dendro?
13:05 Dragonstrike Weapon for Diluc
17:20 Lisa + Dendro
19:01 Are 4star constellations from the shop worth?
19:12 Are there any good Qiqi teams?
19:51 Is Mona C2 good for vape?
19:58 What changes would you make to the standard banner?
20:33 The perfect Dendro character for Keqing
21:01 Outro - Hry
Feel like they should give out more standard banner fates. Nobody is pulling in there with Primos and its not really gonna impact character or weapon banner sales.
I feel that every single event should give some, yes. It's a perfectly reasonable reward to add on to the primos.
My friend wishes on each banner equally. I cant convince him otherwise. 😂😂😂
@@runelt99 they aren't saying standard fates instead of primos, stop twisting their words.
@@jrsdt2ndaccount30then let him stay a fool 🤷🏾♂️ he only hurting himself
@@runelt99 Can you read? Like holy shit.
It still doesn't sit right with me that standard banner doesn't have a geo 5 star. Even the new child in town dendro had tignari added to SB.
I agree. It would also be really interesting if the devs released a 5* geo character who changes the way crystallize works, just like how Nilou improves bloom mechanics and dmg. Imagine if they make a geo character who's crystallized shields works like the shockwaves we already see from some abyss cycles when we take damage. We'd finally have someone from the geo team who we can build EM with.
They should put albedo in there.
@@codesalty9659 that would be against the law
The standard banner in conception doesn't sit right with me period. The fact that it just sits there and you have no way to guarantee anything from there and the fact that it's the only permanent banner.. Eh, yk what, just f*¢k the standard banner system and most of the gacha system in this game in general.
On one hand i support adding a new geo character to the sb 5* lineup. On the other hand it makes getting a specific sb 5* even harder than it already is. They didnt add anything to make it easier after tighie eillish joined the fray.
I think the standard banner needs an Epitomized path mechanic to allow players to target specific characters/weapons. Give people a reason (outside of the free standard pulls we get) to pull on the standard banner.
The Epitomized Path would be terrible if it works exactly like the weapon banner
@@DarkSeraph sure, but it would be better than nothing
@@DarkSeraph nah he’s right, at least you can aim for what you want. It’s too much in there. At least you’d finally get what you want instead of years n years with nothing
@@DarkSeraph The main reason why epitomized path is so bad is that it doesn't carry over to future weapon banners. Since the standard banner is permanent, it wouldn't have that problem. You could roll on it with only f2p fates given away in BP or rewards and slowly work towards the one you want. Personally I would love an epitomized path for standard banner. It'd be even better if they reduced the number of fate points required from 2 to 1.
@@rirururu4697 What's funny is, while i'm crying and despairing over my qiqi c4, my fri doesn't have her yet (we're both day 1 players) and he'd love that system for standard.
Thank lord, I was dying in Garbage CZcams shorts
SKILL ISSUE
LMAO
Oh god, good, I'm not the only one
We are in this together
I actually had to “delete” shorts 😅
As a long time Diluc main I've always said that his biggest problems boil down to simply having low multipliers. If his E's just fucking hit harder (like Hu Tao CA's as Zajef says) he'd be way better. Obviously there's some stuff like his A1 being shit and his Burst knocking ppl back, but rly he's weak bc fundamentally he doesn't have the motion value to compete with other units, especially other pyro carries like HT or XL
the dilemma of the slow character type. a strong hit but not a strong enough hit for their speed. as my 1st 5* it was incredible noticable. they could also fix his burst not be chopped in half with a big hit at the end and beginning.
I mean I can agree but at the same time I managed to 36* the abyss only thanks to him so I don’t think he’s that bad either
For anyone watching this wondering whether or not Rosaria is worth leveling due to gameplay, I promise it's not even remotely as bad as Zajef made it sound. She's an incredible unit and isn't clunky to play at all.
his Rosaria nitpicks make him sound bad at the game. just dont use her skill at the wrong time lol
Didnt know it she could even be canceled out of it until today and ive played her since her release... 💀💀💀
She is great but way to niche and get outperforms by broken 4 * characters
@@WasaboDuckBoy You can't really "use her skill at the right time/when you want" when executing perfect rotations.
You only have one specific window to do so, and it's gonna depend mostly on enemy RNG
Rosaria feels SMOOTH bro. Idk what Zajef's smoking but it ain't it fam
I've seen many suggest a "buff/fix" to Standard banner would be adding characters with X amount of reruns to be pool and personally...I have issues with that.
Like I understand why people think that way (especially when talking about characters like Albedo and Yoimiya) but I feel people undermine the big issue that comes with doing that and still has yet to be addressed: the lack of any guarantee. As we all know SB (standard banner) does not currently have any sort of guarantee or even rate up for any of the items and characters in the pool. And more things they add, the more diluted to pool gets and the harder it gets to pull a specific thing you want (Those you want cons for the starter trio know EXACTLY what I mean). This couldn't be any more true for the the 5 star characters. I seen so many players lamenting about getting multiple cons of characters they DON'T want and not a SINGLE one of the characters they do despite playing for about 2 years. And Tighnari's inclusion only made the pull rates even worse.
Speaking of Tighnari, I think he's a perfect example of why I'm very hesitant of the idea. When he got added to SB that pretty much means he's not getting another banner again (unless it's like VERY very rare expections like Keqing's banner in 1.3). So for those missed on his banner or lost 50/50, they're just SOL. Now you have to pray to the merciless RNGsus for him to show up...eventually on your roster (you'd never know). Now try to apply that same thing on characters like Yoimiya and Albedo ON TOP of the more diluted pool. You may as well have sent them to the forgotten void if you're unlucky (exaggeration I know).
Tl;Dr: Until something is done about SB to have a better chance of getting characters you want from it (like a rate up or epitomized path), I can't fully agree with this.
Not only all of that but if you happened to put money (or saved like crazy) to fully max out Yoimiya and/or Albedo in constellations because they're limited banner characters, if they get put to standard banner it'd feel like shit because they were not supposed to be there and potentially spook us in a 50/50, so that's in-game and real life money that could had been saved. It's different from people who maxed Tighnari on his banner because they got a warning beforehand so it was up to them to take the risk of going for C6, similar as the old 1.3 Keqing banner.
For me a better solution that would work out in favor of both parties would be to open up a new banner format that is constantly rotating the rerun characters and might add the older characters first but they're not available all the time, so if there's any you want to pick up you just wait for when their timing comes. They could have lower time of run but a quicker timing to reappear, maybe every 2-3 months, some sort like a rotative similar to the characters in the starglitter shop. Another option would be a banner with all the older units but with a path choice like the weapon banner so it'd be up for our individual risk there, which also wouldn't mess up with standard banner getting a higher poll of characters and lessening the chances of getting the ones we're missing.
Sometimes I entertain myself with the idea of a "Region Banner" that stays up for the entire patch and functions like the Standard Banner, but all 5* weapons and characters are 1+ years old and from a single region.
For instance, if this patch had a Liyue Banner, the 5* would be Hu Tao, Xiao, Ganyu, Zhongli, Qiqi and Keqing, Summit Shaper, Primordial Jade Cutter, The Unforged, Staff of Homa, Vortex Vanquisher, Primordial Jade Winged-Spear and Memory of Dust.
I'm curious to know how a banner like that would perform. It has great options and I can see many people tempted (imagine if Hu Tao wasn't rerunning in 3.4, or if this banner was in 3.5 it'd have Shenhe that many people are waiting for), but at the same time it's an absolute trap banner to pull - much like the Standard banner with no epitomized path.
Honkai's version of SB has this thing of x% that guaranteed S-rank(aka 5star) will be a new S-rank. SB could prolly have that sort of mechanic. the percentage goes to 100% if you keep getting dupes. iirc it's 75% at the lowest? i dont main honkai.
@@RntLnr Like you also mention, it wouldn't work unless it had some epitomized path. It'd only benefit people that are new or truly don't mind getting any of the characters either because they're all at C0 and want constellations or have almost none so it'd be a win.
If you're a min maxer or targetting a specific unit, you still get more benefits from waiting until their regular rerun takes place so you don't get unwanted character dupes besides the potential spooks from standard that we're used to.
We only need a 5 star Geo Character to be put in the Standard Banner, Put Amber, Kaeya and Lisa in the Limited Character Banners rotation....and add more Characters to buy in "Paimon's Shop with the Star glitters" to C6 any 4 stars.
(Would be nice to get a C6 Faruzan in there)
For Tighnari I'd always pick the crit f2p bow or the Viridescent Hunt over a bow like Prototype Crescent because of how painful it is to manage crit stats on non crit ascending characters.
That's why I keep him on Harp
I always get more crit damage rolls anyway, so for me the challenge is finding a good crit rate circlet
I run him on AMOS
Why wasn’t stringless mentioned?
@@ahamadsemiyan7760 isn't great
“I would rather play Klee than have a Rosaria on my team.”
Bro how did Rosaria hurt you? I don’t think she feels bad at all! Her crit rate sharing is such a huge factor for her too.
I love Rosaria's gameplay so much! Her E and ult feels so satisfying to me. I'm very surprised Zajef feels so strong about her lmao
I might be wrong about this, but when his Rosaria e got interrupted, it didn’t even enter cooldown, so like, just click e again? I don’t even play Rosaria since shenhe is just better, but I know she isn’t as clunky as he made her out to be
exactly. he shouldn't let his strong opinions discourage the new playerbase from playing amazing supports like rosaria.
And also about Kaeya particle generation, he has a passive increasing the number (if the enemy has cryo, if I'm not mistaken, and it's also not exact as the description of the passive says), plus, his energy is a lot easier to maintain than Rosaria's. But as Rosaria was my first C6 character, I played her a lot with a cryo build (with Chongyun) and Kaeya was my main (phys) for a long time, at least until Raiden, and even with her, I feel like they're both quite nice to play
I willingly play Rosaria over Ganyu due to gameplay reasons. Never even knew her getting canceled out of it was a thing that existed.
@@aggil661 as someone who is a cryo main, basically (I don't have Shenhe anywhere and Eula is on my alt, but I have all the other cryos on my main), I play all of them and I see why you prefer Rosaria over Ganyu. For me, Ganyu is still more used and Rosaria is kinda benched but her gameplay is nice and somewhat more dynamic than Ganyu
Never had interruptions issues with rosaria honestly, In fact, using her E is a good way for me to dodge some attacks, especially with those corrosive goddamn and stinky flea sacks gold made 😂😂
Here's a good standard banner change. Seasonal rate ups for characters within the standard banner. So, the standard banner itself gets the rate up Not a separate banner with characters from the standard banner .... if that makes any sense.
one thing i’d add is kaeya’s A4 is better than it sounds-they don’t need to be frozen BY his E (as in, not frozen before) to generate extra particles. as long as they’re frozen at all, he’ll generate an extra particle and another if he hits two enemies. given he normally does 2-3, that becomes 4-5 particles, more if you have favonius. this is especially great for teams where you rly want someone’s burst, like freeze ganyu or ayaka. (zajef mentioned this, but i’m just clarifying the weird wording and also specific use cases. it means you can put less ER on ayaka, for example)
his normal and charged attacks can be good in a melt team with kaeya chongyun xiangling bennett, but usually i think it’s more quickswappy, so they don’t get used that much. still, his c1 is there and can benefit in a shenhe team i suppose. there’s also phys carry kaeya that’s definitely decent.
also rosaria has the crit rate share, but in freeze teams you’re often overcapping crit anyway, which is why i prefer kaeya there. i like her more in melt teams (or really, both of them together and taking chongyun out)
True, but still think Zajeff's criticisms of Rosaria's gameplay/issues were incredibly overblown/a 1010 moment. Rosaria E is an instant short dash on-click to behind the enemy, unless they're too big, making it realistically hard to get hit unless you're Unga Bunga and ignore enemy attacks, making it more of a SKILLISSUE than an actual issue, especially in Freeze.
Furthermore, Rosaria giving extra Crit rate subs makes it easier for those with lower artifact/build quality investment to reach DMG thresholds. Plus, she also doesn't need to compete with your mid/high refine Fav Sword compared to Kaeya, when you use Favge on Kazuha too in the team, making it easier in practice to build around to address ER issues, especially for F2Ps that don't pull on Weapon Scamba.
@@mike81356 I agree. I play her on both a reverse melt team and my Ayaka freeze team and never have any issues with her skill/burst. Every so often I goof and the moves gets interrupted by enemies, but it's more my fault for trying to use a move right when the enemy is attacking me lol.
I still prefer Rosaria than Kaeya for my freeze team, because it's not that easy to position yourself in order to Kaeya's burst could hit multiple enemies. Rosaria's burst range helps me a lot
@@mike81356 ikr. Nobody wants to cast their E at the moment the enemy is attacking, unless you are using character that has counter skill. Even Zhongli doesn't do that
I need to build balls
The biggest thing about the standard banner that would make it better is if they introduced an epitomized path for it. Since that banner is permanent, it wouldn't suffer from the same problem that weapon banners do with the path not carrying over. You could eventually get any five star of your choice from it on f2p fates after months of saving-- which is something that wouldn't break the game or make hoyo lose money at all.
Rosaria is my freeze dps currently (don't use it often but when needed) and I don't think I've ever been staggered during her e cast, I quite like rosaria. Obviously anyone can not like a character for any reason I was just surprised by how much he dislikes her lol
Man simply likes balls more Lol
Ikr. On the contrary, I really like her E. It makes her teleport to the enemy's position so you don't have to run and adjust your camera to catch up with the enemy. Keqing can also do that but she has to cast E twice and she'll also ended up flying
Yup lol, maybe he play on melt team so enemy can move so he get interrupted.
I said the same exact thing when he brought that up in the video. I play her in freeze and didnt even realize that was an issue at all, let alone that it even existed before so.
Ikr, I lost some respect when he dissed Rosaria's "feel". But she feels quite easy to use and smooth as f
10:23= skill issue
I'd be very surprised if he was indeed interrupted more often when using Rosaria E than when using Klee.
I can agree about the problem with the CD starting at the end of the animation so it seems to increase the duration of the CD,
but the problem of being interrupted when using E has never happened to me.
for me the only downside of Rosadia is just the "circle impact"
Ikr. Nobody wants to cast their E at the moment the enemy is attacking, unless you are using character that has counter skill. Even Zhongli doesn't do that
he just has never used Klee ( :
Surprised Jean sun fire with Bennett was not mentioned in the Jean vv support section, it allows her to get decent damage swirls and pyro reactions.
Yeah, sunfire jean with some overvape reactions makes her a viable replacement for xiangling in a raiden national team. Its easily the most meta thing about the standard banner.
We really don't have a lot of "Fast Pyro Application with Zero ICD besides Xiangling.....Pyro characters are usually the ones triggering the reactions.
Bennett and Jean's Burst Sunfire Concept is great.
Tho Sunfire combo, pulling it off is a bit harder, since you also need Enemies to stay within the DOT circle radius...
Also Bennett's and Jean's Burst 12 vs 20 Cooldown respectively, kinda makes it awkward to keep Sunfire synchronized all the time.
Jean burst Swirling with Barbara's E to destroy Pyro Shields and Apply Hydro also works....but you have to account getting frozen vs Cryo mobs...Then it becomes a Cryo swirl and burst still cleanses you.
All in all, good utility from Jean.
@@JMike-bq6rl yeah the biggest issue is the knockback CC for sure, but ive always found a raiden sunfire comp does so much damage that any enemy small enough to be knocked back is usually killed instantly anyway
@bird9412 it is restrictive of movement yeah. but when it's viable in abyss it frees up xiangling for another team and that can't be ignored
@@Dudelee1 frees Xiangling for another team without Bennett 💀
... time to make a new one?
Viridescent Hunt is still the coolest weapon in the game... I wonder if we'll ever enter an era where more weapons have utility and generally more unique effects on gameplay. I also love effects on normals/chargeds since it gives us an excuse to use the cool animations in more cases, and then I also love the idea of grouping outside of Anemo cause Anemo is OP without that monopoly, while ones like Jean stand to be included more.
Finally Zajef talks about Tighnari, i've been waiting since 3.0 for this since he never made a character pre-release or analysis on him!
same, as a person who wished for him in 3.0 i was sad he didn’t make a video about him because he ended up on standart
pretty sure he briefly talked about him on a previous general ask zajef
would you ever do an ask zajef traveller edition ?
This could be interesting. May as well imo
he talks about traveller alot more than others but an exclusive vid sounds good
He really should
first video to upload when Snez drops
We're hating so hard we forget about rosa crit share huuuuhge
This was super helpful! Thanks for sharing your knowledge. :D
Personally I prefer Jean over Kazuha/Sucrose for one simple reason: I'm a scrub that can't dodge
Kazuha can dodge with style xD
Imagine letting enemies attack you having like 2 Sucrose's/Kazuha's E with sac weapons.
Also, besides maybe with taser/Hutao comps, youre not gonna play Sucrose or Kazuha without Bennett anyways.
Jean can pretty much do it all....DPS, CC Pull enemies closer + Fall damage, Heal, Cleanse, VV Swirl....Getting Jean in the Standard banner is actually a WIN to any Account....especially C2.
Jean c2 is more fun then kaz/succrose whole kit
@@lawfulgoodnun1646 that's kinda copium but anything that makes you happy ig
having a wishlist system for the 4-stars would solve the watering-down odds of getting specific 4=stars with the standard banner. You'd select a set number of 4-stars, and every time you manage to draw a 4-star, it would draw from that pool only. This way, it doesn't change the odds of you getting a 4-star, but keeps the rate of which 4-star you get consistent.
I had no idea rosaria's e had no interruption resistance or that it even needed it. Kind of counter intuitive for a backstab type move. I think it works if you e from further away right?
What about kaeya's last na teleport behind enemies thing? Ive never experienced it getting interrupted so does it habe interuption resistance or am i just dodging good?
I didnt know either, because I've never gotten interrupted and I play rev melt Rosaria a lot.
Me too I thought my rosaria was just i-framing all those attacks
I've only been interrupted like once or twice and I've been using her since she launched. Surprised there was so much hate for it.
i never realized it too and i always play her. but then again i only use her in freeze team so i never had the experience getting knocked over lol
Another Rosaria user here that never even noticed the stagger "issue" on her skill. Feeling like Zajef had a bit of a Tenten moment there
I'm surprised Stringless wasn't mentioned for Tighnari
Tighnari Stringless is decently fine overall. The caveat is that he is mostly optimal to use with Charged Attacks (which is Zajeff's main focus on Tighnari's play style) than using his burst more frequently (team rotation is always a priority to manage depending on your play style) yet still needed to use it otherwise because it's still a DPS gain + IFrame. Stringless doesn't also buff Charged Attacks but gladly at least the EM substat made it a decent 4-Star Weapon Choice.
@@kuyarence isn't his burst also pretty decent portion of his damage?( idk don't have him)
@@mdma4u2 this from the vid : his burst is nice but because of energy cost better to use it once in 2 rotation
also stringless is better used on fishcl in that team so that could be the reason
@@mdma4u2 overall yep but not much of a priority than his charged attacks. The possible problem is that the DPS between his charged attacks and his burst won't be as balanced since Stringless buffs Skill & Burst but not his CAs (even with 4pc. Wanderer's Troupe Set, the balance gap still exists but not as much).
Still, his burst has relevance to his kit but should be managed depending on your team rotation. The time where you want to use his burst more often is if he's in a Quick-Swap Double DPS Quicken Team (with Keqing specifically), the rest should be like after using skill twice per rotation then burst (or using burst at the start then do the rotation) which I always do with my Tighnari Spread Team. I also have him on Stringless and can still clear fast enough with proper rotation.
I use wanderer’s troupe Artifact and stringless on him.
He gets dmg bonus on all his kits
Lisa got a very nice buff with dendro Gladge
Man rosaria is busted in ayaka freeze, her QoL problems are meaningless because everything will be frozen forever regardless and her buffs are a ton of stats. Literally skill issue.
Yea, Zajeff’s “criticism” towards Rosaria was def a 1010 moment
Lol. The irony of saying skill issue whilst using said skill on an immobile target... Ps he didn't say she's bad
@@sankaranarayanan4479 Ayaka doesn’t need that much energy and shenhe is 5*, maybe kaeya with cons is better depending on the content, but getting rosaria to c6 is way easier and her cons are meaningful.
@@mike81356 1010/10
I love these series, always so informative. The only theorycrafter we all can trust. Thanks mr Zajef, appreciate the effort you put in this.
The setup to introducing dragonstriking was OD, kudos to you for that Zajef!
with Tighnari, remember the recent event weapon, Ibis Hunter, is designed for him
For your ask zajef #12 consideration:
How constellation dependent are most of the broken 4 stars (does xiangling need c4, does sucrose need c1, does beidou need c2) and are they worth using/building without these constellations?
Props to the editor who included some very helpful footage
Nah gonna disagree on the C6 Lisa point completely. It seems like Zajeff is looking at it from the perspective of the Lisa running support Artifacts and TTDS, so of course C6 Lisa does nothing for her in that regard.
However Lisas with C6 who are built for damage can greatly if not massively benefit from C6 because it turns her into an even faster quick swap character.
Swap to her, Lantern, Hold E and Bam (I usually hit 60k base without Lantern), move on.
As opposed to having to get her stacks up on everyone nearby via Tap E.
My personal critique of C6 is that the range of it could be bigger (as big as Hold E's range would be nice).
I'm pretty sure every single vharacter in this game has a way of dealing 60k damage quicker than Lisa's skill.
@@cyruswang9354 most could with higher talent lvls on a burst, but its a skill that gens energy instead of using it and has a massive aoe range and is 780% talent dam at lvl8 assuming the max stacks from c6. Iirc zhongli ult is 800% at lvl 10 and takes about same animation time for ref
@@YourBoyToy1769 it doesnt matter much if its from E or Q, you still can only use it once per rotation. zl Q multiplier is a good reference but a bad comparison because a team not optimized to be with zhongli also considers his Q a damage loss, comparing to that is basically saying lisa E is a damage loss too (which most of the time it is, in a meta standpoint only ofc). people often underestimate the drastic effects of adding extra 2-4s on rotation when it can be restarted earlier. well ofc if you have extra 2-4s and batterying is not needed then lisa E (or zl Q) can be considered as damage gain
@@cyruswang9354 60k without any other buffs or reactions? Hmm, I'm not so sure...
And depending on how you're doing it, while you're charging up the hit, your Lantern can be doing damage as well.
@YourBoyToy1769 zhongli has an additional 33% hp scaling for his burst.
Bubble Qiqi superconduct-taser hybrid helped me fully clear one of my first events that I participated in. Can't remember the name of the event, but it was around the time of the 3rd Childe rerun banner and involved picking out whatever challenges you wanted to use for that event to score points if you could clear with whatever self-imposed challenges you picked.
Team I used was Amber, Xinqiu, Qiqi, Beidou. I was probably around AR 35 at the time. Qiqi was my first 5star and was the only one I had during that time.
Ican't with the rosaria takes man 🙃
1010 level take right there ICANT
i use tighnari with 4pc wanderers and polar star. i got polar star specifically for him lmaoo. with this setup, i like to think of him as a jack of all trades with his dmg, cause every part of his kit is getting a boost
I love Ask Zajef, all my homies love Ask Zajef 🙏🙏🙏
Keqing was the first 5 star unit i got in the game
I left on 2.8
I came back to the game and currently on sumeru and being able to use her again on agravate teams is amazing
6:58 bruh homa is a terrible example here
yeh i think that's the worst possible example.
Homa's actually a perfect example, it's so much more account specific than it used to be but people still reccomend it like it's the 2021 holy grail. It's only BiS for Hu Tao and Xiao (generally not valued as much he used to), it's the same as Catch for XL/Raiden, Rosaria prefers SSS for melt Fav for battery and Catch/Wavebreaker in general, people used to think it was BiS for support ZL but now we know that's just Fav.
For Lisa hyperbloom her charge attack can hit seeds easily and in a pretty good radius. (I think it can even get them from a bit behind her back?) Her charge attack is slow though, but this comes handy occasionally.
Lisa's essentially on-demand electro means that It's a lot easier to swirl electro with Kazuha in Nahida teams.
I love you Zajef. Please know I support you with all my heart.
I would argue that a bow like Hamayumi (idk if i spelt it right- the inazuma free craftable bow) is good on Tighnari too. It's free, it allows you to build more EM because it has attack stats so EM would be more useful, you sacrifice crit stats for more consistent damage, and tighnari is all about consistency, especially if you have that monster C1 which is basically 30 free crit value.
19:14 Zajeff meowing
I know it‘s gonna be a good video. That‘s why i like it before watching it.
Rosaria also has the problem that if you're lagging or have shit ping, your e will overshoot and miss the enemy
its usually against mobs that she can teleport behind
6:14 Lmao I just imagine Diluc with Kana Ueda’s voice and striking her E pose 😂😂
idk if it's gayge but when u drop a video it improves my day
i know what you are
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also
OH what a dayge
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I saw some sad Diluc mains in the comments and I gotta say, don’t get discouraged by opinions. Hu tao was my first 5* and I got homa on her rerun. I still clear abyss with Diluc because he is much more fun and I like him. I get more satisfaction from playing him than playing any other character. Fun and satisfaction, what more could I ask from a GAME? Play who you like ❤
Ahh yes. I remember practicing dragon strike in my Eula days. Got it a few times but not anywhere near this consistent.
Is hyperbloom tighnari not as good as spread tighnari?
At the end, when he talks about the best dendro keqing teammate, i saw a whole lot of things i liked. About the dendro teammates that is. :D
thanks for the helpful vid ❤️
Something that I want to add about Dragonstrike (I personally don't think dragonstrike can be viable after a lot of time playing it)
1. Dashing uses up your stamina (This hurts your ability to dodge and usually it means diluc just dies to things like Lawachurls and big hits)
2. You have a lot more difficulty gaining energy because your E skill needs to be used when you dragonstrike. This tends to be a huge problem because usually this means you use up the hydro on the enemy and no hydro = no vape AND if you don't use your skill you just don't get crimson witch OR your burst up (it's not very practical).
3. if you do longer combos that do apply hydro, generally you lose the buffs that you get from characters like vv, sucrose em, ttds, kazuha dmg%, etc.
EDIT: added point 3
I don't think diluc's e can wipe hydro(even harder with xingqui) 1u of Pyro is not enough
@@eeshu8290 not by itself no, but with the NA + the plunge + low plunge. if you use the E you don't apply hydro. (staying close range for the orbitals to apply hydro is a bit unreliable)
actually this reminds me of another thing so i appreciate the reply (added it to the list)
@@mustangroy5012 you know you u can NA cancel on diluc so that the rainswords hit but the na doesnt connect then e then plunge
@@mustangroy5012 but yes I have definitely seen more melt dragonstrikes than vape dragonstrike abyss showcases
@@eeshu8290 yeah personally im not a huge fan of melt yet, i haven't tested it enough myself to put my 2 cents nor have i seen any reliable tc do calcs on it so im just waiting on an answer someday. (it was a pretty popular question imo that went unanswered this video too)
Actually the first time I heard someone explain how dragonstrike actually works (but again, I never really went to look for it. I only know it exists...)
Also didn't know Kaeya was better than Rosaria as freeze support. I only heard ppl talk about Rosaria, but I just adamantly wants to play Kaeya a lot more solely bcs he's a husbando so I never build her. Glad I didn't then...lol
She is better, but not that much to waste limited resources on her when u already built Kaeya
I put Qiqi in teams that has superconduct so she helps out with the 4Clams damage.
Maybe she's not that useful for others for Abyss, but IMO she provides comfortable experience when in coop bc she keeps everyone healthy (especially if Kokomi is not available)
Who does these fantastic thumbnails!? Anybody know their @?
best use of qiqi I've found is with my eula team, her healing means you can tank everything while building eula's burst and with clam set she provides some decent bonus damage that's amped by electrocharge
How do you battery eula here? While I think diona is just a straight up better option for defense, I kinda wanna use my other units so I'm still curious what teams you'd recommend that run both eula and qiqi together cause I really want to use qiqi in a case where she actually offers something for the team 🥲
@@mikakagehira5714 I run Eula/rosaria, with the other two being either qiqi/Kuki or fischl/raiden depending on mood or my other abyss team
@@mikakagehira5714 Same. Eula, Raiden, Rosaria and Qiqi. Also Qiqi is on Clam, favonius and over 200 er. I Think she contributes more damage than Diona, plus resistance to interruption (shield) is not an issue, so having lots of healing is better.
since we are here , ill say it , Burgeon DIluc is actually very good guys . what i tried
WG,Gilded,crit/pyro/EM
nahida deepwood
yelan
zhongli.
Not only he did his normal damage but he also did 30k burgeons . it seemed to work rly well . try it out!
Standard banner is so much better done in PGR. You can choose specific characters to pull for.
bruv i wish we had more cooldown reduction mechanics and also geo infusion for zhongli and anemo infusion!!
UNDEFEATED
hey i love ur content, could you do an ask zaj eula guide later down the line
Seems like the best thing about Hyperbloom teams is they allow you to put any random otherwise crap fourth unit in there and still have it be good. Qiqi, Eula, any unit you like that does auto attacks pretty much.
Are you planning to make a video about Yaoyao? Or is she generally too "eh" for it and just getting the Dori treatment of being mentioned on the banner video and that's it?
he did a stream for yaoyao yesterday so the video is probably being edited right now
@@masturcheef123 That's nice to hear! Thanks.
10:36 how many i-frames do you want?
Zafej: Yes
Me as a diluc main crying in corner that i cant use his charged attacks or get a better passive
17:16 can someone please figure out what he said here? I’ve played it back multiple times and still can’t figure it out lol
Which char is in Hyperbloom Qiqi?
Thanks
Literally the point of Diluc’s E is to auto-skill-auto-skill-auto-skill. So he attacks faster than normal claymore users….. I don’t know how that got overlooked
probably because it the only thing that lets him be okay. faster but still slow.
The issue is that the only way his E js good is locked behind a constellation. If his E didn't break his Normal Attack String by default then he'd be great.
for tighnari i use the sumeru craftable bow, its still an atk main stat but it gives em too
20:09 This is what I appreciated most about Warframe when I played it. Every frame is available at all times, either by purchasing it out right or farming their blue prints, materials and then waiting 3+ days for the frame to actually be built. Prime frames, the stronger versions of normal frames, are only available for a certain period of time before returning to "the vault."
I wish gacha games did this, but it would be especially useful in Genshin because if the devs knew what characters each player had, they could make more interesting overworld content. There's a reason pressure plates are only found in Liyue, and it's not because it's authentic to the Chinese atmosphere
elegy on tighnari feels so smooth from my experience
I use Tighnari with Yae Fischl and DMC, but i have Elegy on fischl, i will try it on him and give fischl idk..stringless or something
I highly recommend its really fun on him
In my opinion the strongest dendro for Keqing is already here and that's Nahida. You don't even need to worry about dendro app, circle impact, questionable recovery time... JUST tap E and you are done for the 2 next rotations.
Of course you will have to time your Ults for Iframes since no healer (unless you run prototype on Nahida).
I did using Prototype Amber on Nahida because the current Spiral Abyss round, especially those rifthounds (12-3-2nd) still can corrosive through Keqing's burst's IFrame when she casting her burst.
Though not related to this vid, Zajef, do you have a comparison between Ayato and Alhaitham as on-field DPS? Who hits harder and by much in a standard reaction team?
Their best use aren’t from their damage that’s for sure.
@@Eclin For Alhaitham it is as in quickbloom (his best team), he does significant amount of team's damage and in spread (his other good team), he does most of the damage.
@@anirudhmohanty209 He does most of the team's damage even in a Quickbloom team.
How good is c6 Kaeya?
being a diluc main and watching this video is painful
Its okay, he can still clear 36* easily.
@@zaburinoakashi *with good investment
@@kinahananfa8666 *and some retries
@@vinsara3782 it's not easy anymore if you use retry
@@kinahananfa8666 *with high investment
Haven’t finished the video yet, but I have a couple comments:
First of all Viridescent Hunt on Tighnari has drip. And it’s off the charts.
Second of all I can’t believe how blind I was to the power of Elegy on Tighnari. Holy fuck. Dropping EM onto both Yae and Fischl is game changing! The fact that Yae gets to double dip makes it that much juicer. But god that means I’m gonna have to grind Deepwood some more to get a crit rate circlet. I’ve been abusing the crit rate from Hunt (and c1) to act like I don’t need a crit rate circlet.
can you tell who to get,on my account I have as 5 stars:itto,kazuha,tighnari,scaramouche and Mona and I don t know who to get Xiao or Hu tao i like them both I have enought to guaratee one of them
@@sankaranarayanan4479 i don t use Scaramouche i didn t want him but i got him while trying to get gorou at 10 pity and it was guaranteed not a 50\50
Impressive, very nice
Four player co-op physical Qiqi! Well, I needed to figure out something to do with my C4 Qiqi...
poggers mr.zajefdge
5:27 Som sick skill showcase of Diluc
who can i use atlas on generally?
I believe that you actually really don't like playing interrupting scenarios. I also really despite lots of interruptions during skill casts.
kinda funny how zajef seems to have a face tic when doing dragonstrike
Hunters path wil be the rarest 5* weapon
Please, I have a C2 Mona, just tell me if she's usable mr. 77 😭
I play rosaria and kaeya together on melt team and they are strong together. I have Ayaka if I need to play freeze team
wish Zajef talked about Wolvenstrike, a unique Razor technique to dragonstike off of his E
I think it is time to start getting some resin in the wish system. Imagine getting two Condensed resin or a Fragile resin every 20 or 30 pulls.
Can beido work in hyper bloom em wise or just focus on her burst dmg numbers and hyper bloom on the side ?
better focus on her multipliers.. Beidou burst wont proc the seeds much, I think. could use her with someone that actually procs those seeds tho, like Cyno or Yae.
Beidou burst doesn't hit the seeds at all. SO no Hyperbloom Beidou won't work.
beidou's burst never hits the seeds. zajef already talked about it i believe when dendro first came out. so it's never wise to build her full em.
Beidou is good as a second electro in hyperbloom specifically because her burst can't hit seeds and thus you can build her 0 EM.
do you really need C2 Kaeya to make Kaeya have no downtime on his burst? or is he just fine at C0?
If you want 100% uptime on his burst then it is impossible without c2, however i don't necessarily think it's any less bad without it given that c2 is conditional. if you are playing against a boss that doesn't have summons (which is most of them), you are not killing anything so your burst will be the exact same duration. And even if you don't play against a boss but are fighting 2 big dudes (like how they used to put 2 geovishaps in abyss) you are going to at most increase duration by 2.5 seconds once and then end the room to not make any use of the 2nd potential duration increase of it.
19:15 the siren went off
Qiqi and Eula have something in common besides being Cryo
Their best teams are Hyperbloom BasedMan
Hyperbloom is the new "they're playable in national".
Just play Eula with Qiqi as a battery.
@@emiki6 Is this sarcastic? Qiqi can't batter
@@adrianlau4641lmaooo it's a running joke on zajef's channel and stream. search up "Qiqi Battery" and you'll find a clip of the incident ThoseWhoKnow
@@adrianlau4641 i use Barbara to battery Kokomi
I do get staggered a lot with Rosaria, it's real, but never considered it a deal breaker for her. It's mostly me entering the fray too rashly and getting lynched as a result. I would probably not fare much better with anybody else.