The Heaven's Gaze & The Birth of the "Self" | Genshin Impact Theory
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- The release of Genshin Impact's newest weekly boss, the All-Devouring Narwal, has opened the door for an enormous amount of new possibilities in terms of both game design and story. Interestingly enough, this Cosmic Beast might also hold the answer to one of Genshin's biggest mysteries... The source of Visions!
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Timestamps:-
Introduction (0:00)
The Myth of Narcissus & Echo (2:12)
“It” (6:01)
Carl Jung (9:15)
The Witch & The Giant’s Garden (13:45)
Who is Caterpillar? (16:52)
Quantum and Imaginary (18:50)
The Three Realms & The Land of Dreams (21:39)
What is Arlecchino? (26:32)
Confucianism (30:35)
What is “It”? (31:51)
Final Thoughts (40:11)
Closing Statement (43:41)
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Me before watching: Can’t wait to learn more about Arlecchino!
Me After watching: Carl Jung is the Primordial One…
God carl Jung is so hot I want to c6 him and make him my little twink bitch, and yell at him while fucking him "psychoanalysis my monster cock fucking twink" as he chokes on my massive penis oh god yess
Which is funny because I came to the conclusion that it could be Charles the Great.
Ironic how Rene in his pursuit to save humanity was the most selfish of all.
Or how he lost his humanity in the process.
the genshin lore community is going crazy in fontaine and I absolutely love it.
5:33 "He did not want to upset his brother."
He sure as hell is fine with upsetting his wife, sister, and daughter tho.
I can't with Zeus man... 😔
@@lucasstafford2160 Persephone is his daughter in that situation.
well from his perspective, his wife, sister and daughter don't have the power to overthrow him but his brother does, which is actually quite stupid because his father Chronos was also overthrown by people he deemed weak
@@dumbkid4ever224when Zues underestimated the God of Strength, Kratos
@@dumbkid4ever224like father like son ig
Zhongli & Azhdaha + Remuria & The Souls → Gold & Her Children → Rene & Caterpillar.
After you mentioned Zhongli, it clicked in my head. Just like in real life, something can start as innocent and simple and over generations evolve and change becoming a deformed and twisted shell of what it once was. This is such a cool historical detail by Hoyoverse and it shows how much attention they put into their games, slowly introducing awesome World-Building where historical events influence and build upon one another.
You really are one of the best if not THE best theorycrafter we have and I hope you blow up more because holy shit you didn't just cook, you prepared a 10-course meal
Many theory crafters hold back because they think the human brain fry but this guy as you very well put it fry with pleasure
1:28 THIS MAKES SO MUCH SENSE!!! The word Narzissenkreuz is Germanic which means it shouldn’t belong to Fontaine which is inspired by France and Italy, but the Romans fought many wars with the ancient Germanic Tribes and took over their lands which explains the reference you mentioned with Remus.
If you want to chase down an imagination / creativity rabbit hole then I suggest you rewatch Fischl's GAA2 domain story again. Especially the ending confrontation and what Oz and Fisch say afterwards. The whole point of it appears to be -- contra the usual understanding about Fischl being a normal girl -- or Mona's attempt to psychoanalyse Fischl -- that Fischl has some sort of magical power that remains mysterious but involves imagination and creativity. Fischl alone of all people thought not to be a god, creates a species (the raven knights) who each have their own personality. It's reminiscent of the power of "M" the Hexenzirkel witch who appears to have no ability beyond imagination, and thus sits awkwardly with the hugely powerful other members.
The reason why so many stories from the far east (Genshin, the Persona games...) have a lot of Jungian themes isn't because everyone in Asia is a fan of his, but rather because Jung was greatly inspired by eastern philosophy.
would this mean that Oz is a manifestation of Fischl's constellation like the narwhal with Childe?
It is interesting what Cater says about visions cause if you look at Bennett, it’s kinda strange how someone as unlucky as him was “blessed” with a vision…unless
Blessed with a vision and cursed with a gnosis 😂
@@xpearlx ?
@@khanhquocvong oh it's a meme. Skirk said that the gnosis bring misfortune so people started saying Bennet has the pyro gnosis and that's why he's so unlucky
An interesting thing of note is that Fontainian's are the only people able to access Abyss/Khvaerna elements out of the playable characters for now. Also both Skirk and the Sustainer are able to use space manipulation, with each having a different alignment (Skirk bends the space around objects and Susti seems to change an objects property using her imagination). Also the siblings don't do any damage to Susti, because they use the same alignment that she does, indicating that we need the power of the Abyss to damage her by creating an annihilation reaction.
Oh that's so interesting, great point!
HE COOKED AND NOW THE FOOD IS READY
Sustainer of Heavenly Principles to the Travelers: "the arrogation of mankind ends here"
Albedo: "Is creation an arrogant act?"
Your theory about the creation of humans by the primordial one might explain why genshin expy's/exports (venti,ei,alhaitham,murata ect) are so...different compared to their houkai counterparts
Expy's exist because the imaginary tree uses the same blueprint for humanity whenever it forms a universe causing the same people to exist in similar roles (kallen is a perfect example of this,her fate is to literally always die tragically and it takes HI3 otto an absurd amount of effort to make a world where she gets to live)
If the primordial one is pulling their blueprints from abyss/quantum beasts instead of the already existing ones then it makes sense as to why genshin expy's aren't exact replicas,they are (ironically enough) imitations of the real humans created by the imaginary tree using the inately chaotic abyss beasts as substitutes
I mean, humans don't need Visions in order to manipulate elemental energy/magic, it just makes it much easier. The entire Narcissenkreuz(sp?) was all about manipulating high levels of magic without Visions, to say nothing of the Amademiya teaching people how to use magic with Visions, or Mona having learned her hydromancy before getting a Vision.
Bro is the honoured one in COOKing.
Even before this, I think the inspiration from Jung was most obvious with the 2nd Archipelago Islands character storylines-especially with Fischl who confronted her shadow/ego.
All this talk about imagination and artists makes me really happy because I've always said, "To draw is to create, but to animate is to bring what you made to LIFE." The word Animation, afterall, was literally derived from Latin meaning to "bestow life." So art is power and it's cool to see how in Genshin, they meant that LITERALLY. XD
Ohhh! a spectacular video! It's the first time I've commented, I think. But I've seen all your Genshin videos and they're great. The theme of this video is very important within the game, and it always makes me happy that my favourite character in the game is part of the theme as he said in 2.8
"But is being under an god's gaze really a blessing?"
In case you can't identify him, Kazuha's friend says that phrase, and yes, he's my favourite, I have my reasons. Back to the video, I love that they are long because they are full of information and I learn a lot, hehe. Keep it up, I'm sure you'll soon have more audience because you deserve it.
I have no words. This was just absolutly incredible. Amazing. Insane. Mindbreaking. You have a very unique talent my felllow Traveler. Thank you for sharing it with us.
OOOoooooohh. SO, rather than thinking of the world of Teyvat as between the celestial and the abyssal, it helps to think of _the celestial as between the abyssal and the physical_ realms. Then it acts as a filter of sorts, that can take the raw, forbidden knowledge of the abyss that would drive a person mad if they were to encounter it unfiltered, and shape it into something fantastical, but more solid and comprehensible: dragons, other creatures and magical-seeming stuff, etc. Then, those things that were unformed possibility in the abyss can be transferred from the abyss to the mundane human realm, like Elynas, or Durin, or Albedo.
Watching your videos feels like I'm on a massive trip and i'm in love with it, but I really gotta slow them down sometimes lmao
A small thing and that goes for most translations and names, especially if you repeat them so many times: I think if you dive into the meaning of names from other languages, it's important to also look up the regional pronunciations for the sake of the video and maybe connecting some similar sounding things in lore. One example would be the way that in "Narzissenkreuz" the "kreuz" part isn't pronounced like "cruise" but more like "kroyts", the same goes for character names like Lanoire.
Keep up the amazing work, I'm so excited to see what you cook up with the drop of 4.2! :D
Your videos make my brain hurt, but they also blow my mind so it's worth it
If this is people’s first introduction to Jung that’s kinda crazy consider your Persona is the stimuli that helps you deal with the external world. The face that hides that real “you”
Finally someone brings up the Carl Jung links to this game. Thank you please people read on Carl Jung his lessons in life are very very important to the development of one’s self
When discussing fairly complex trails of logic, like the meaning of the will and creativity/artistry, it might be helpful to take a step back once in a while to let the audience take a breather and orient themselves. A bit like „hey, as a reminder, this is the meaning of X, this is why it’s important“ and so on.
You discussed these themes and their relevance in the game for minutes on end, densely dishing out information and I found myself multiple times thinking „wait how does this relate to (for example) creativity“ or „wait why was (for example) creativity relevant to the story at large again“, trying to build and rebuild the line of thought Mann times. Doesn’t help that you generally talk very quickly, and that doing this with a video format is a bit of a hassle. Perhaps I’m a dumbo or maybe you want your videos to be interacted with that way, just my thoughts.
I actually agree. The density of info is really high. Videos could be a bit longer but more calm. It would contribute to how we digest it. I personally have to rewatch several times... unless😏 this was the intent behind this😂
@@soullight4158 Agree. This is one of the few channels where I put the playback speed on 0.75 because he goes too fast 😂😂😂
I got too focused on the Narcissus and Echo myth that I forgot this was a genshin theory video
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This video was a treat to watch omg
Ok. I understood about Clothar going mad, but what about the Jester and Dainsleif? They are pure blooded Khaenri’ahns and are not mad. They have been alive for more than 500 years. They were around before the fall of Khaenri’ah with the cataclysm. The Jester was a royal Madge who had not created the Fatuii yet. Dainsleif was head of the royal guard in the court of king Irmisul. (Aether lived with the Jester after he arrived in Teyvat which was also years? Months? Days? Before the cataclysm. Also where are the women who were pure Khaenri’ahn?
Theory theory!
You said that visions are given by Celestial beast, what if the archons are also Celestial beast, cause we Know that almost all the Archons are not Human and are from unknown orgins, Venti being a Wisp, Zhongli being the Elder And the First adeptus, Raiden being uhhh idk, and Kusanali being uhhh idk again, but it's clear they're all non-human, so if the people of teyvat says "the Archons give the Visions" or in the lines of that, they are not fully wrong.
I love your videos. No ones ever gone as deep as me besides you.
Awesome video ❤
27:27 Arlecchino having a vision is not a good argument to explain why she can't be a hilichurl. She might always have been able to use the elements because of her hilichirlian nature, long before she obtained the vision. Her having one doesn't mean that she needs it to use elemental power, she could've obtained it like anyone else but in her case it's useless because she can use the elements without employing it.
I feel like I'm in class again, the professor is walking around the auditorium and whacks those who don't listen the lecture. (it's not bad, it's just how I feel 😅)
Bro the lore bombed the gnosis 😂 you all will have to make a video on it.
the "IT" dainsleif talks about is something Halfdan did not have, if you believe that was a vision what would dainsleif vision be. I think "IT" is the same thing as Skirk refers to inside Childe. It is the celestial beasts themselves. Childes fate vision was to find the Narwhal and free it from the abyssal sea. Now the real question is was that according to Celestias plan, if that is the case the breaking of the prophecy might not be a blow to Celestia at all, but exactly what the prophecy was supposed to be. Just like it was in the prophecy that they would hold a trial. See we operate from the thought that Focalors "fooled" Celestia but I dont believe that is the case at all
mnfn: genshin creators are fond of carl yung!
me: *unlocking once again all those carl yung theories I had to study to just understand bts music videos like dna fake love idol boy with luv black swan & on mv. yeah it is more useful than anything i have studied at several schools and unis IJBOL*
And once again my name for now remains the best theorycrafter on this platform.
Good job man hope you rest your voice.
i see no reason why "have a vision" and "manipulate elemental ennergy by other means" would be incompatible.
an exemple for that the TRAVELER
@@Myraclesflow The traveler probably can not have vision because he is not from this world.
Or may-be, he could.
Amazing video! I really have enjoyed your recent videos, keep going ^^ My only gripe is that "Narzissenkreuz" is pronounced "Narcissenkroyts" as "eu" is read as "oy" in German^^
Fr. It pains me so much every time I hear it being mispronounced, just like with Mondstadt and Liyue
Honestly nvm, there's no hope. Just hearing how he pronounces "hilichurl" and Lanoire's name is enough to know he doesn't care ;;
@@KyzenEXI'm from Germany and I gotta admit German is a very difficult language to learn and to pronounce correctly. This is because we have a lot of letter combinations (for example "eu") that do not exist in other languages. Besides the German words in Genshin are really long. Most times they are not not one but multiple words that were just chained. So I think he does a good job with the pronounciation considering that the pronounciation in the game itself is not always correct either.
Real, my ears bleed every time I hear english VA's, it's not that hard bruh, but I guess, that's just American ignorance
I was saying it good :D, thats because im spanish maybe.
LETS GOOOOOOOOOO NEW VID
Finally someone speaks about the correlation of Carl Jung, and what he said, I was keeping an eye on his relation with his Archons theory but wans´t sure about it being related to the game
Poor Echo. Alice really did a nimber on him 😅
What i find odd is the way they chose to spell the little girls name. Insead of spelling it as Lénore they spell it as La-noire which means the black.
Note: zhongli gave eyes to azdaha
If you're right about what "it" is, then what do you think that means for the Traveller? After all they don't manifest visions, yet are still able to control the elements and resist the effects of the abyss, in addition to the fact that their constellation actively changes or is unaligned.
Aether, Lumine, The Dragons, and the Gods are all the manifestations of their own constellations. Morax IS the Constellation of Zhongli.
One thing I disagree on, I think Arlecchino has a delusion not a vision, I don’t remember everything that went into my theory, but it’s basically that Childe is the only vision wielder amongst the Fatui Harbingers, which lined up with all the harbingers we’ve seen up to Arlecchino, seeing as Signora, Dottore, and until he was playable, Scaramouche all lacked visions, and we know Pantalone also does not possess one, I think Childe is unique in the way that he had a vision and a delusion. Also, even if Arlecchino does possess a pyro vision/delusion that does not mean she can’t naturally/through the nature of being a hilichurl, wield the power of another element, we already have Signora as an example of a harbinger wielding two elements, one through alchemical means, and the other through the use of a delusion
There is a pyro vision in her model. Unless that is a fake one and was put there to deceive us players. 😂
@@hlonghi Yeah upon reviewing Childe’s delusion it has the fatui symbol (for some reason I thought it just had the electro symbol) so she 100% has a vision, tho the whole elemental manipulation thing could still work for her
30:03 Visions aren't rewards, nor are they things that help achieve a goal. They often turn up after an accomplishment but often they turn up just because a person sets their mind to a task that becomes their future path. The game says this all represents "ambition" and that's not a bad way to see it. But a reward for accomplishing a goal? No. A lot don't fit that model.
I think that's just a difference in wordplay. The essence remains the same. Vision is a reward for finding ambition which can be considered as "rebirth" in Jung's terms and I think that's a pretty accurate description.
This makes me feel smart, but I don't understand anything 😭💀
44mins ??? ❤ Thanks
that's why weapons sparkle golden upon appearing and desapearing in thin air behind characters. they're imaginary.
amazing video as always! very interesting observation with connecting the glider lore with Rene’s body. However, I can’t agree with the celestial beasts=visions part because the majority of constellations of genshin characters are objects, not beings/animals. There are shields, waves, ladles… I’m still inclined to think that ordo’s members are composed of Teyvat’s matter because Egeria created them, and that was her original sin. thus I think that only pure Fontainians are native to Teyvat, while the rest of the people are created by the Primordial one, and among them only few have visions, not all of them. What’s the purpose of a vision? no idea still 😂
I propose the theory of visions might still be Archetypal, but not necessarily tied to just beasts, but of the Archetypal ideas tied to each Allogenes' ambitions which manifesting into Visions, the elemental manipulations of Allogenes/Vision holders are the subconscious which connects the original Platonic Archetypes (or in Jung's terms as "Collective Unconscious") into the physical and mental planes of Teyvat (Conscious of mental and material planes of human passivities and activities)
The celestial beasts might being the more active manifestation from the realms beyond Teyvat and it's veils, which ties to the Abyss and elementals as the subconscious, as humans supposedly being made of foreign constitutions outside the cycles of Teyvat but chose to live in it, Teyvat is also being Hebrew word for "Ark" so it's acts as transitory stations for humans' journeys to different realities, I think it's like a Microcosm to the journey of HSR in it's galaxy/universe (despite of how much current limitations and unexplored worlds/planets of HSR Cosmology which also derived from Honkai Impact's own Cosmology, and people have no idea how these would goes if I elaborate further in Honkai Impact's own mechanism and inner workings which often clashes due to translation-sensitive of different Imaginary Tree and Sea of Quanta worlds within the original Imaginary Space (The Chinese called said Original Space as "Kong" meaning Emptiness, yet in Genshin world, you can't make something out of nothing, it's always cyclical from existing things, although Emptiness/Void in Buddhism is differentiated from "nothingness", which is 3rd formless Jhana and below limitless perception below cessation into the Emptiness of Nirvana and passed away to "The Other Shore", Samsara in Buddhism also have connotation as "Ocean of Suffering", much like how the contentious duality of Sea of Quanta and Imaginary Space operates, yet from the unity of it, much like the Jungian union of perfection between male and female, it can generates life and what's often constitutes as Acts of Creation)
And just to add further, Genshin Impact might have nods to Christianity, Buddhism, Judaism, Hinduism, Confucianism and literatures, mythos, to application of studies and disciplines of different backgrounds to varying depths to each subjects and objects of topics, yet the main inspirations of Genshin Impact and even Honkaiverse as a whole have been mainly from the union of all of these from "Gnosticism", although Genshin Impact is specifically have mishmash of taking from mainly Bardaisan Gnostic with a pinch of a couple of Valentinian concepts akin to Syzygy and Sethian concepts of Archons although being reduced into local rulers instead of the cosmic horrors of the actual Sethian Gnostic origins, although the Bardaisan Gnostic concepts of Allogenes, Hymn of The Pearl, Books on Nations and others are the only recurring consistency to the main characters of the Khaenri'ah, Celestia and travelers quests', Aether and Lumine acts as Syzygy of Valentinian concept of Aeon, not necessarily in sexual begat tones, but more of the syzygy of alignment of foreign Aeons distinct from the entities, concepts and actors of Teyvat and their 'gods' to meddling and kind of disrupting the cycles, albeit temporarily, just as how The Descenders influences Teyvat
new neuvi character story actually told what are visions are , what are they and how are they given go read it
πνεύμα (pneuma) in a literal sense just means breath or soul
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Heeeyy finally
Ironically the first time we actually saw someone on live receive a vision without cutting to black like the one in Aranara is the "Hydro Archon"
Does wanderer count as fading to black?
Bro what ost did you use in the background?
Nvm I saw the description
But here is the catch
: image of the catch
Woah, bravo. Are the vision dangerous devices then? Are we being preying by Cosmic beasts? Are we opening cosmic rifts to reality and these beast wants to melt with us so become Gods?
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21:15 what anime is this?
Honkai Impact 3rd, Otto Apocalypse Trailer.
Both carter and Arlechino use the same form of manipulation but it’s more obvious there’s something supernatural in how cater does it, they speak thruts or pragmatic facts and the people have no choice but to accept them
had to put this to 0.75 speed
what is the quest with the disabled girl i don’t remember that?
The girl in the wheelchair appears in Yoimiya's second story quest.
@@Piniakosubs thanks!
Deluge ... Delusion
Hrm
40:06 ??? so wouldn't every vision wielder have "it" ???? please explain I appreciate the research but the organization of information is just hell
Unrelated to Genshin, but Jung is mostly wrong about the Collective Unconscious, the only thing that can be classed as a collective unconscious that humans posses are the genetic memories, and they are not universal, they are the memories of only your direct bloodline.
19:21 (personal timestamp)
even tho i like your theories and how deep they are, but the videos are so long that i can't even remember what you said in the previous section. and the flow of information and how fast you talk is insane. can u at least include a "razor language" section by the end in which u give a simplified summary.
maybe they can not differentiate between create, invent and craft.
is this xenogears
Yoimiya= Best Girl
Psychiatry is Victorian era anti-scientific nonsense like Palmistry, Animal Magnetism or Table Tapping seances. But I guess that doesn't matter to using it as the basis for a game. However, I don't think MiHoyo slavishly apply any real world lore to create their plots. That would be something like plagiarism.
Yeah, just the massive amount of influences from various mythologies, Gnosticism, and the work of several ancient philosophers shows how diverse their sources are.
so the 'it' is basically the potential to use abysal or celestial power and become something greater then a normal human
Did I understand it clearly
While I don't fundamentally disagree with your theory, I believe it's foolish to rule out Arlecchino as a hilichurl simply due to her vision for one simple reason- we've seen fake visions before, carried for the specific reason of hiding inhumanity (archonhood specifically)
But there's a little bit of a difference Venti and Zhongli carry around fake visions because if whatever reason they need to use their elemental abilities it's easier to just pin it on a vision then explain how they could do so without it. They are literally trying to blend in as normal people and nothing special
This isn't actually a problem for the fatui especially the harbingers they usually have delusions and even then the harbingers amongst their rank already have several people who openly used powers despite not having a vision Signora and Scaramouche come to mind.
Arlecchino literally has no need to blend in pretty much saying you're from the fatui and a harbinger is enough for people to expect you to have abilities.
If she was trying to use a fake vision to blend in and look normal announcing that you're part of the fatui kind of kills that
@@volfawott7417 Sure, I was just saying it doesn't completely rule it out
So.... if allogenes are made of bits of star-beasts then are non-allogene humans just, what?
I _think_ the theory was that ALL humans are made of/connected to star-beasts, but allogenes are just the ones who've succeeded in finding their path which aligns with the beast. Like, if Amy had never developed her Fischl alter ego, she'd still be made of star-Oz, but she wouldn't know it or have a vision because she didn't experience her "rebirth" - the moment she found her path and gained her vision. (All humans except the ones like Jakob who were made entirely from Teyvat materials.)
Again with the theme of mirrors & through the looking glass, Furina's teaser is mirror'd in its first half, cleverly referenced in 41:14
27:20 Humans can use elemental magic without vision - some Emerites do it. The Illuminated beasts do it too. As do Youkai. But all of these people can also have a Vision in addition, and I suppose they could have a Vision and also a Delusion like Childe too. So I don't think having a Vision means you can't be a Hillichurl, not that I think Arlecchino is a Hillichurl. Done that already.
Eremites can't manipulate elements. They borrow it from ancient dessert spirits that are absorbed into their weapons and used. No they don't directly manipulate elements.
And youkai and other beasts are natives of teyvat so they are already in tune with the elements. So this theory works perfectly.
I believe the Eremites use weapons with fragments of spirits trapped in them (possibly genies?), you can read about it in the archive. So they still use an external source... But that doesn't mean humans can never use elemental energy without a Vision
narzissenkreuz is analogy to real order Rosenkreuz which was connected with Hermetism, christian mysticism and Alchemy and Kabalah. Also Arlecino is same as Harlequin: a mute character in traditional pantomime, typically masked and dressed in a diamond-patterned costume.
Weeeeeell... turns out you were wrong on the composition of Jacob... The reason why he was different was because...well he was a normal human. This is spoiler but... all people of fontaine was actually oceanids in human forms. Thats why they were different.
Also, I dont think Dain is talking about the visions...I think he is talking about the Gnosises. They are the only things associated with transcendance to god hood. Every one of the Archons were something else before gaining the gnosis and gaining the divine throne. Venti was a spirit, Zhongli a half dragon, Ei and Makoto are Raijins, Nahida is an avatar of the Irminsul tree, and Focalore was an oceanid turned human.
None of the characters or NPCs actually speak about possibly transcending with the power of a vision. Most are far too clueless about what they are for. The only puzzlepiece we have is the manga with Venessa...But even that is a tale told by Venti and may not be fully accurate since there might be things he cant say. But if I remember correctly, she was never shown to have a vision, we have only assumed as much.
There is also another thing... Visions might not be given out by Celestia (or dragons).
There is a logical inconsistancy that is showing up with the visions in fontaine. We are told Fontainians are sinners to Celestia. So why would Celestia hand out Visions to people that they saw as sinners and wanted dead? Although, I kinda doubt that Celestia really were seeing them as sinners...They did nothing for thousands of years, and didnt instigate the prophesy... Something just dont sit right there but oh well moving on.
Nor could the dragons be behind it, I mean look at Apep...I doubt she is interested in handing out visions to mortals.
Another thing is that, well, there exist many visions, but there really is only 7 of the gnosis...and it is theorized that bringing the gnosises together will open a portal to Celestia. It just relates better to what Dain is saying.
Also... I think you are staring too hard on Childes whale... I mean look at some other charas constellations first ok? Some of them have objects. The constellations arent supposed to be images of beings and things from other worlds, but a symbol of their fate. Just because something come from a different world, doesnt mean that fate wont include it. Fate isnt the Irminsul tree. Childes constellation is the devouring whale because he would act sort of like it, constantly looking for stronger and stronger opponents to devour, and it would color his fate with the people he would come to know.
Likewise we see that Klees constellation is a four leaf clover because her fate is to be happy and lucky, while Shenhes constellation show that her fate is to bear great pain in life...
why are you saying hilikurls its hilichurls
Too fast, too loud
I think Khaenri'ah had a problem with humans being reborn. So they granted Khaenri'ahns immortality. Now days Dainsleif is not so sure they chose right. Lets put it that way.
Genshin is never black and white, its a mysterious shade of grey about everything.
Why do you say hilicurl?
My comment is positive but i will critic severly: first if you have s script, then it seems as there isnt one. 2 times you mixed up the sentences only to make a conclusion that was totally different. If i remember correctly, one time you say humans were not made from elements of teyvat, to then say they are native from teyvat?. Second, stop going from left to right of your mic, my headphones cable is broken to begin with, and hearing your voice only in one speaker triggers my tic of adjusting the cable. Third, don't forget even archons use fake visions, maybe the knave has a fake too. Why she do it? Dont know, is jyst a posibility. Finaly, this was a great video, and i do appreciate you are not telling blindly that "this character is this one because Greek myth is..." when Hoyoverse has their own cosmology and theory crafter should stick with this instead. Even if this theory is proven wrong, i will definetly do a rewatch. NOW i wonder if the language of flowers has something to do on genshin lore? For example the Narciso ( excuse me as i only remember the name in spanish right now ) in one of it many meanings, means "you sre the only one" so... Maybe it is a reference of the plan of Rene? Of making everyone a one and only oceanid? I wonder...
Yeah I’m sorry but none of this made sense to me lmao I still don’t see how any of that psychology stuff relates to genshin
you complicated things instead of clearing it , so unnecessarily crowded video.
Dude, I love your videos. But please, calm down... you are starting to sound like a preacher or something lol
You are correct. I apologize.
@@DragonMJEno please go on because your enthusiasm keeps me soo invested in the video. It is one of the things so unique about this channel.
You don’t have to kill the vibe, just turn a little bit down haha. Also, don’t need to apologize man, you are great and I wish all the best for you!