Anyone thinking built-in locks on tool boxes or tool chests serve any purpose beyond stopping co-workers borrowing stuff without asking is delusional. Stopping thieves is what the security shutters and alarms on the building are for.
Pretty much. I only lock mine when I have a day off, or go on vacation. Shop security is pretty tight where I work. By the time they had one toolbox close to a flatbed they would be surrounded by cops.
@@lockpickinglawyer I think this might actually be my favorite comment on the internet. Saying so much with a single word:] On a side note, if you read this, thanks for getting me interested in becoming a locksmith. If no one told you today, you are awesome and you make this community a better place. Thank you.
Yet somehow i watched a locksmith spend over 2 hrs trying to pick one of these. Both with the "unskilled attack" and hand picking. He did eventually beat it but wasn't fast. Oh and it's more like $10,000 to $100,000 of dollars of tools considering to get that key you have to buy at least a $6000 box.
@@cjuarez3169 sometimes chinesium is just fine to leave school as a mechanic with 7000 in tools or 1500 in tools you can upgrade later when you see what wears down and what holds up
@@lockpickinglawyer I have one of these, I'm not feeling great about how easy you got into it....someone told me last week that if you grind the nub off the tubular key on my Harley it will open any Harley tour pack. Do you know if this has any merit? The matco boxes have much better locks I believe. You'd probably get into one in a minute tho
I think the locks on these are more designed to discourage the other mechanics in your shop from casually borrowing your tools. What often happens when thieves break into shops is they just steal the whole box, which is especially easy if the is a forklift on hand, as there is in many shops. I knew of a shop where thieves broke in, got into the service truck, loaded all the tool boxes in the place with the forklift, and drove off. Of course the lock itself becomes irrelevant in this situation. Having said that, I still think it would be nice if they were at least a little harder to get into.
Thanx for the help. I didn't want to have to resort to my prybar. I customized a set of feeler gauges to emulate your tools. My moment of silliness erased with your knowledge. Fun fact:. The vertical locking bars on these tool boxes don't have a detent spring holding them down, just gravity. The whole locking mechanism is defeated by placing the box wrong-side-up. The only deterant at this point is sounding like a high school marching band in the auto shop. I guess if I were really worried about someone stealing my tools, the first thing I would do is take the WHEELS off the bottom of it.
I have an old Snap On box and recently realized how much money I have invested in tools. I upgraded the old 3 pin cam locks yesterday with a pair of Medeco M3. I know that they're not totally pick proof but I'm sure that I don't have to worry about guys like you breaking into my safe. An ape with a crowbar or angle grinder would make quick work of the box. Nevertheless, I feel a bit more secure. Thanks for the security awareness that you've taught me with all your videos.
Yeah my first thought was that the biggest vulnerability on tool boxes isn't picking the locks, it's the other tools someone conveniently hangs on the wall next to them 😝 I tend to think of the locks as being 90% just to stop the drawers falling open in transit, with a vague nod toward stopping casual thieves dipping in.
Interesting! In a previous life I had some quite expensive tools for required for work. For legal reasons due to the nature of the tools (Very Sharp Knives/Blunt objects) it became mandatory for the "tools" to be kept in a locked box during transit to and from a venue. Usually 99.9% of the time... a plastic fishing tackle box with a tiny useless padlock sufficed the masses and law makers alike LOL! Previously they had been carried freely in a roll / case no lock. Due to HACCP regulations plastic was deemed to be "safe" as opposed to metal due to rust, hence the plastic boxes. Great informational video!
+TotallyRandom Locks and Picks TV Thanks... these issues arise when decision makers don't know wtf they are talking about. That's Washington DC in a nutshell.
Great video. When I saw the key at the begining I thought I have to buy the lock but after watching how easy it is to open I'll just buy the key. Thank you for showing this awesome-key crappy-lock to us.
Nice vid! Frankly, the main point of these locks is protecting tools from being borrowed by one's colleagues. The chest is going to be in a secured location-and if it weren't, a thief could just roll it away.
Hey Lawyer, you would like to think that a company like snap-on would have a much better lock being that the tools inside are so very expensive. Snap-on needs to see this and take action to up the security of these locks.
As a mechanic i can tell you, most times people don't even attempt to pick these locks, they'll try to knock them out, or break the lock bars. But boxes almost never get picked. I did know a guy who lost his keys and took the locksmith who came out over an hour to get into it.
I recently bought a used Snap-on 55" roller cab. I like the box, but my first impression of the lock was that it was cheap trash with a cool looking key. It would appear I was correct in my initial assessment. Oh, and they can be bypassed by a piece of sheet metal slipped in above the top drawer.
I, recently, lost the keys to my model year 2015 snap-on box. New keys would take a few days so I tried to pick it. Had to grind down a 90* oring pick for my tensioning tool and a straight oring pick as the picking tool. The thing I discovered is the tension that is on the lock from the drawer locking mechanism made it impossible to hold the pins in a set position. I ended up ruining that lock where none of the pins would set. The hutch had no tension behind the lock and I was able to pick it after 60 seconds of messing with it. Was quite surprised I managed to do it. Ended up drilling out the box lock. No it is not made of high strength steel. Took 10 seconds of drilling and the core was out.....
Damn. This is crazy. I only have a 7 drawer SO tool cart. But it's still FULL off SO tools. Well over 10k. Amazing how easy someone could get into it if they wanted to. Unfortunately I leave my box open all the time. So we'll. Ya know
I leave mine open as well. No point to lock it when it’s this easy. And considering if a thief wants the tools and or box they’re gonna break into it or just steal whole box.
the problem is, the weight of the bars that hook onto the back of the drawers is all residing on the lock, so turning it with a little pick tool without breaking the tool would be rather difficult
I know this is an old video. I’m a snap on tools dealers and I bought the hulk tool sets that you use in this video. I am a very mechanical person but for the life of me I cannot get that huk tool to work in the locks. I’m using the internal pin and the same exact huk tool that you use in this video. I have customers all the time that a lose their keys or missed placed them and call me in a panic to come by and unlock their box. A lot of times I cannot because I do not have every single key that Snapon makes.
Can't get mine open with it either, works great on cornwell lock... Something tells me that the tension of the mechanism on the box itself interferes with the picking. Have heard of many bypass possibilities...
Schnebly Magee I agree. I think the lock installed on the box.....as I was trying.... keeps it from turning. Maybe the weight of the lock bar in the bocks is too heavy
Great content. So that Huk tool that opens illegal car boots also opens jammed tool box locks. Good to know. I once had a cheap Sentry safe in the garage I was going to sell. I had another safe in the house with all my jewelry. The key to the garage safe was in my house safe. The house safe was burglarized. Yes, I lost everything valuable, papers, gold, diamonds, cash, the lot. Now how to open the garage safe? I knew I had another set of keys in that safe but locked in. Fortunately, there was a CZcams video on magnets. After much magnet work, it sprung open at last. It was a bit rusty from moisture in garage. I called Sentry but they could not help me since the model number was on the manual which was also gone. Always put the model # on the back of the safe in case. Also, always bolt down your safe to the floor and wall studs to make it hard to remove.
THANK GOODNESS FOR HUK..LOL SNAP ON REALLY NEEDS TO SEE THIS VIDEO. '''" VARY NICE VIDEO LPL .my nephew is general manager for a very large mechanical facility he tells me all the time how some of his workers lose their keys to their tool boxes. he says normally even on Pinto blurs they just torch the bolt off the Box. I'm going to send this video to him. probably will save them a lot of money.AND time. 💥💥💥💥💥😎
Wow you would think Snap-on would want to protect their overpriced tools a little better but then you wouldn't have to buy more. Any suggestions on tubular tension wrench. I have a Sparrows but it's murder on the fingers.
LOL... Maybe overpriced, but I think the deal is that they warranty the heck out of them against breakage... so you only buy once. But for the dollar value these lock up, the security is a bit silly. As for tension tool for tubular locks, I use the one from USALockPicks.com ... Sparrows also has some new ones that look OK, but I'm with you on the Mantis (it can hurt the fingers).
Depending on the box size, there is a bar that needs to be lifted in order to truly unlock the box. I would say it’s about 3-4lb. That bar holds all the drawers in place when locked and I feel like a substantial tension tool would be needed on the cylinder. But that’s my opinion.
Not to mention, Snap on laser etches the key code on the front of the lock... I can see this is a K522 while pausing the video. You could easily get a new correct key shipped to you off their website. You probably won't read this, but any suggestions for a more secure lock????
Haven’t seen vid yet... i have this lock on my box and I lock it every day i have maybe 30,000 in tools im curious if this lock gonna secure my precious tools . Damn that lock sucks Is there anyway to improve it? Thanks LPL!
Yes, you can replace with an abloy or medeco cam lock and replace the tailpiece. Relatively simple to do. the important part is to find a replacement cam lock with the same dimensions.
Jon Doe they are actually pretty heavy gauge, much thicker than big box store brands. And from the design of mine, I think it would be pretty difficult to get into that way.
Get a few raspberry pi's. Put one with a camera attachment in a security camera shell, wire and hook everything up to work properly with transmitting video feed to a storage or server, then mount the camera shoulder level above your tool box facing in a way that will record anybody breaking into or picking your box. The very blatant and obvious recording security camera would likely deter most criminals, even if it's not actually working
All these different videos show people opening tubular locks in a matter of seconds but when i follow their exact method with the same exact tool, it doesnt work for me. Why?? Update: I've discovered that on these Huk picks, I stretched 2 of those tension bands on top of the ones against the pick and the locks I have opened right up.
I've got a snap-on KRL series triple bank. its older but has that same key... I've got a set of these tubular picks, jus like his (mine is KLOM) so here's the thing, the key requires a lot of turning force because the weight of the draws locking mech, turning the key u are lifting all this heavy stuff... all in all I got it to work and probably had the lock itself set to turn a bunch of times , the force took both hands and made me nervous id damage the tool, but it did work, and the tool is fine.
jackpot, I think the tension wrench would be a wadded up mess if this was attempted on functioning toolbox, rather than spinning a lock in a vice. Tubular picks are out there, but pretty darn rare in all honesty and this lock requires an oddball and even more rare tubular pick.
Would like to see you do Matco (crap), MAC, Cornwell, and bunch oh the different service body truck lock on the doors. Let me dig out a couple, I have some when I replaced the locks on my last service truck.
Fellas if you lost your snap on toolbox keys. All you really have to do is call Snap On and give them the key lock number that’s on the lock and the serial number on the back of the box. I paid $20 and some change for two keys. Funny thing was they never asked me if I was the owner of the toolbox
Like anything else the locks only job is to keep everyone honest the shops I worked in the tool boxes usually have 3 or 4 foot pry bars hanging on them and several cutting torches sitting around plus the guy that never locks his box has air chisels and air cutters and more pry bars and don’t forget all the tin snips so if someone wanted your stuff bad enough they could have the box opened faster than you with a key
Matco uses TuBAR locks, I've got a video opening one. I also have one on a snap-on lock, I have a lot of experience with tubular locks and I was surprised at the fight this one put up. It was brand new so I don't know if they wised up on the springs and driver's since I didn't have an impression tool but it put up quite a fight.
They're adequate for the purpose, keeping random people who wander by from stealing an expensive tool or two. Someone serious about theft would carry or roll the whole toolbox away and open it at their leisure anyway.
Only if the attacker has the foresight to show up with specialized tools such as a tubular lock impression tool or a tubular lock tensioner. While your mad skills leave no basic lock a challenge, most folks aren't prepared to practice for months and obtain esoteric skills and tools to steal someone's toolbox contents. They'll either steal something while it is open, or steal the entire box and pry or pound it open.
I would beg to differ. With how expensive snap on tool boxes are someone would want to wheel it away and get it open without damaging it. And if that meant 3 months of lockpicking practice I know many people that would go to that trouble if they really wanted to steal something.
I just watched your video about Master padlocks and why you do not post more videos of them. You mentioned that Kwikset and Schlage locks provide very little security. So, based on that, what locks do you use on your home?
I've changed my view a bit since then... Frankly, opening them is a bit boring for me, but I figure nothing will ever change unless I (and other like me) spread the word. So I am definitely including more of the lower security stuff these days. As for my house, what's the point of a high security lock with wooden door frames and several ground floor windows? My security $$ are better spent on a good electronic security system.
LockPickingLawyer I have a slightly different view, although I agree with you re windows. I believe in good quality locks (i.e., Schlage grade 2 doorknobs and grade 1 deadbolts with anti-bump pins and spools & serrateds added along with strong 3-inch screws into the doorframe). Instead of a monitored security system ($35 per month), I use some of that money to buy more insurance for theft/burglary. With a monitored alarm, a burglar will be in and out before the police arrive. I also have ADT signs at the front of the house for the sake of deterrence.
i can vouch for little security. after watching a few LPL videos . i found an old kwikset dead bolt .that i have no key for.. got the wiper blade off an old car of mine. made a couple tools and picked it after a few tries more of a rake not SPP.
100% agree with only the highest $$$ lock being any good. I'd be interested in your path to a "good" electronic security system. I'd like one that uses the cell towers. High praise for your production values on top of your pickin' skills! Lawson di Ransom Canyon
We had a truck plow through our bay door load up ALL of our tool boxes and run, im 80% sure they are using my snap on pry bar to pop the lip up since the metal holding the thing shut is thin and the tops are super thin once they pry mine open they have all my tools to get the rest open
I wish I saw this video yesterday because I needed to single pin pick a similar lock on my US General toolchest. It also had a pin with no driver that threw me off a bit, as well as it being my first tubular lock attempt. Eventually I got it.
In this case it is only to keep honest people honest, customers from walking away with a freebie, and fellow mechanics from “ borrowing “ tools or sabotaging your job. Anti theft security is kind of pointless with the lock. Depending on the trade, the box is usually in a secured ( varies) location. The boxes while quality are built to hold tools and are not burglary safes. They are easy enough to thwart with the tools that another mechanic already has. While theses can be rolled across a shop, they will usually be transported with a flat wrecker. While not impossible to steal, you have to get past the owner of the box, take it from the premises, get past security and alarms, dogs, and people with firearms. Still need a method to load and transport. How lucky do you feel? Picking it is low on the list.
Where can I get a tool pick set like in this video? I’m buying a locked toolbox from HF as a gift for half off since it’s an open box return but I want to open it without damaging anything then replacing the lock that has a key
About tubular locks. Besides an impression tool, what can you use for tension IF your lock does Not have an index on the center portion? Is there a manufactured turning tool besides the impressioning tool or do you have to make one? Also, do you have a video on breaking down and gutting a tubular lock like this to change it? Or is that not possible?
Not the center post. It's the outside ring. The lock is a BELL Catalyst 200 U-lock. It's the first tubular lock I have gotten to try and pick. (the only one actually). I didn't even notice the difference in the key when I bought it. I just saw it was a tube and it was a good price so... Thanks
I re-watched your 355 and the difference's are that It has NO index on the center post at all and no mechanism to depress in the center post. The only thing it has is an index to tension in the outer ring and then the 7 pins, I wish I could post a picture of it to show you. In the research I have done on you tube the lock mostly shows the pin tumbler style of this lock OR someone just using an impressioning tool to open it. I just picked it up at wally world in the bicycle section a few days ago for like $11.00. I would love to get your help on this
My dad has over $40,000.00 In tools including a $9,500.00 computer locked away in a box protected by this lock and the doors of his building is protected by master locks- but he has an trick and that is he squirts an large amount of heavy tack grease into the locks. Deaden the sounds of clicks, super sticky core and you can't really tell where your pick is, it also slides off of the pins often when you do find them.
with all the money snap on charges for the tool chests/carts you would think they would at least spend a $5 on a lock instead of going for a cheap circular lock and calling it more secure than regular locks.
Thanks for this. I have the same style lock on my powerbuilt toolbox which unless someone has been playing with it appears to be rotating itself (I have my doubts). In the meantime if it's not going to protect the security of my tools, at least I can try get this back to the unlock position so I can at least transit my tools without the drawers sliding open :/
is your technique still the same for impressioning tools? I just started, and I noticed if at first I just press down the lock very slowly so I can see each pin move separately, then just press faster and faster, then turn, sometimes try turning again, and the lock is open, any tubular lock until now. I never twist and turn at the same time. That technique actually destroyed all my keypins.
I don't know the Snap-On Tool Chest. Was you able to get this particular lock out non-destructively? Are there other more secure locks, that could go in it's place?
Great demonstration. I really enjoy your videos. Can you please provide information on your tensioning tool? Did you make this one? I have been looking all over the WEB for the one you have but am unable to find much. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and creativity.
Just watched this video. The EASIEST Method, not mentioned, albeit takes longer, is to JUST BUY A KEY from SNAP-ON! The key code is laser engraved in the face of the lock! Look at it at a certain angle and you can read it, then order the key. I took an auto mechanics class at the local high school. I bought the 4 different keys from snap on, no questions, that the boxes took to use the tools! also this video shows why my tool did not work well, must have been the wrong size. then I just bought the keys, it was a lot easier!
yup and also if you grind off the detent that goes into the lock and unlock slot on a snap on key, it fits most of their locks. figured this out when had one toolbox get stuck between lock and unlock where it wasn't pushed shut all the way and locked and then sprung back between lock and unlock. ordered a new lock but had to get the old one out first and ground off the detent so it would fit inside and worked no issues. went to another box keyed with different lock and it unlocked it with ease. its almost like caterpillar products, they all use the same damn key.
To make it virtually impossible to open a lock is to have a multiple lock sequence, that is a number of events must happen within a certain time and in a specific order, to open. This means a standard lock coupled with other hidden or obscured locking systems, that are impossible to detect. Other trick is to block the key way so its virtually impossible to fit bumping and picking tools in to the lock. This meas you would have to make up a special tool to pick the lock. The idea here is to make a massive hastle, and for those that will make up the key and pick the lock open, is a waste of time because there are other locks to open in a certain sequence and within a time, and yes its different for every lock..
I had some dumb ass kid just pop the lock off my box but was not able to get access to the drawers due to the lever mechanism that locks the drawers. so glad he doesn't watch your videos
SPPing a tubular lock cylinder appears far easier than a traditional lock; there is no blind fumbling through a jagged key way and no high/low bidding to work a pick around without upsetting the other pins. Furthermore, tubular locks are seemingly always mounted in a horizontal, static position making an “open” even easier than fumbling with a padlock. Does Snap On offer a keyless entry option with a FOB, like a car? At least the tools to defeat that wouldn’t be found on a shop floor swept in a corner.
I have seen a SO tool box w a fob push button lock/unlock. But the box also had the tubular key locks, so I don't know if it was manual override or what.
Theft from outside isn't the issue really. It's the guys you work with. I worked in a large dealership that had a lot of employee turn around. New guys with no tools like to borrow and never return. Even when they know you know they have your shit they still don't return it you have to hunt them down and find it in there box. The best part is when they say they don't know how that got in their box like they don't know right. It's not just new guys either I worked with guys for years not my personal friends who you don't let borrow shit.
Very true. I worked with body man who would just come to my box and grab shit. Finally had it with him and had to get a locking hanger for my creeper too. I still want to punch that cross dressing weirdo in the face.
I recently let my batteries die on an electronic safe. I attempted to retrieve my lost key and was let down. I decided to just drill the tubular lock because the stuff in there couldn't wait. I was exceptionally disappointed on how easy it was to nuke that lock. Are there any suggestions for a replacement lock that would be harder to do that, or if it were tried it would protect itself better?
It is plenty secure. Who do you know at your shop that has the tools to pick a barrel lock? Of course with the right tools you can do the same thing. To loosen a tight bolt you use the correct wrench or socket. You dont use a pair of pliers.
I know this is years back for you. But is there an option of a lock that offers more security then these? I own 2 of these boxes with this exact locking system and I've always wondered if there's something better out there. Thanks in advance.
What do you recommend im getting my stuff stolen weekly at work....i changed from matco lock to a tubular like this....shit, i cant believe how much money im out and i purchased a POS box that cost mega bucks
Snap on makes me laugh even the wife was laughing out loud as she hears me moaning how crappy so-called security locks are lock companies should be made to publish picking times not clame high security
Hi, LPL. I was trying this on my tool box (the only tubular lock I own) and I have the Sparrow's Goat Wrench but it has nothing to tension against. I have tried other ways of tensioning but nothing seems to be working.
I've got a Kobalt Garage Cabinet I'm trying to get back into and I've got the HUK toolset. I don't know what I'm doing wrong but it seems right now I've got the unlockable tube lock. Anyone have experience with these?
what year is that lock from? it doesn't even have the key number on it. trying to pick my snap on box and cant seem to do it with the HUK 7.5. i got my box in 2016. just curious if maybe they made some security adjustments.
Ughhh it happened to be twice already where my lock on my snap on box went to the neutral position lol its like some weird phenomenon. And No I don't want to grind my nipple on the key lol
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Don't worry about the lock on the toolbox, Snap On picks your pocket every day.
Only $50 per week for the next 55 years 😂
Hahaha
OMG the truth in this comment.
I imagine you prefer... Klein Tools? 😅🤣
@@MaestroSmoke If I were an electrician🔌
Anyone thinking built-in locks on tool boxes or tool chests serve any purpose beyond stopping co-workers borrowing stuff without asking is delusional. Stopping thieves is what the security shutters and alarms on the building are for.
Yep. Let's be honest, if he wants to steal your tools, he'll probably steal the toolbox as well to make it easier to cary 'em all.
Pretty much. I only lock mine when I have a day off, or go on vacation. Shop security is pretty tight where I work. By the time they had one toolbox close to a flatbed they would be surrounded by cops.
I'm that co-worker.
@@OriginalGriff do you know how much those boxes weigh?
@@JMB-gt6of Sack truck. :shrug:
It's crazy how a 20 dollar pick opens an expensive snap on tool box lock like that. Nice picking again, you have an amazing skill man.
Thanks.
@@lockpickinglawyer I think this might actually be my favorite comment on the internet. Saying so much with a single word:]
On a side note, if you read this, thanks for getting me interested in becoming a locksmith. If no one told you today, you are awesome and you make this community a better place. Thank you.
Any links for that $20 pick.
@@MR-nl8xr Look on Bang Good, 3 piece set of tubular tools.
It's not the pick that opens the lock, it's the skills, and that's worth way more than just $20.
Yet somehow i watched a locksmith spend over 2 hrs trying to pick one of these. Both with the "unskilled attack" and hand picking. He did eventually beat it but wasn't fast.
Oh and it's more like $10,000 to $100,000 of dollars of tools considering to get that key you have to buy at least a $6000 box.
2 hours? I guess he was charging by the hour, huh?
You can buy an expensive box but have it full of tools made of chinesium from harbor freight.
@@cjuarez3169 sometimes chinesium is just fine to leave school as a mechanic with 7000 in tools or 1500 in tools you can upgrade later when you see what wears down and what holds up
You can buy the lockset by itself from snap on
Chris Juarez that’s me. I have Snapon tools too but I have some drawers with nothing but harbor freight tools in them.
Harry, you go through tubular locks like water through a sieve. Fantastic!!
+Charles McKinney LOL... there are very few tubular locks that are tough... once you get the hang of them.
any suggestions what to replace my Homak gun safe tubular locks with that will take more than 20 seconds to defeat???
@@MarkLawsonY3K Medeco or Abloy. You'll probably need to go to locksmith to get them.
@@lockpickinglawyer I have one of these, I'm not feeling great about how easy you got into it....someone told me last week that if you grind the nub off the tubular key on my Harley it will open any Harley tour pack. Do you know if this has any merit?
The matco boxes have much better locks I believe. You'd probably get into one in a minute tho
I think the locks on these are more designed to discourage the other mechanics in your shop from casually borrowing your tools. What often happens when thieves break into shops is they just steal the whole box, which is especially easy if the is a forklift on hand, as there is in many shops. I knew of a shop where thieves broke in, got into the service truck, loaded all the tool boxes in the place with the forklift, and drove off. Of course the lock itself becomes irrelevant in this situation. Having said that, I still think it would be nice if they were at least a little harder to get into.
Thanx for the help.
I didn't want to have to resort to my prybar.
I customized a set of feeler gauges to emulate your tools.
My moment of silliness erased with your knowledge.
Fun fact:. The vertical locking bars on these tool boxes don't have a detent spring holding them down, just gravity.
The whole locking mechanism is defeated by placing the box wrong-side-up.
The only deterant at this point is sounding like a high school marching band in the auto shop.
I guess if I were really worried about someone stealing my tools, the first thing I would do is take the WHEELS off the bottom of it.
I have an old Snap On box and recently realized how much money I have invested in tools. I upgraded the old 3 pin cam locks yesterday with a pair of Medeco M3. I know that they're not totally pick proof but I'm sure that I don't have to worry about guys like you breaking into my safe. An ape with a crowbar or angle grinder would make quick work of the box. Nevertheless, I feel a bit more secure. Thanks for the security awareness that you've taught me with all your videos.
Get of this site, this site is only for us crooks to learn how to steal your valuables, not for you to protect them lol 😂
Yeah my first thought was that the biggest vulnerability on tool boxes isn't picking the locks, it's the other tools someone conveniently hangs on the wall next to them 😝 I tend to think of the locks as being 90% just to stop the drawers falling open in transit, with a vague nod toward stopping casual thieves dipping in.
Interesting! In a previous life I had some quite expensive tools for required for work. For legal reasons due to the nature of the tools (Very Sharp Knives/Blunt objects) it became mandatory for the "tools" to be kept in a locked box during transit to and from a venue. Usually 99.9% of the time... a plastic fishing tackle box with a tiny useless padlock sufficed the masses and law makers alike LOL! Previously they had been carried freely in a roll / case no lock. Due to HACCP regulations plastic was deemed to be "safe" as opposed to metal due to rust, hence the plastic boxes. Great informational video!
+TotallyRandom Locks and Picks TV Thanks... these issues arise when decision makers don't know wtf they are talking about. That's Washington DC in a nutshell.
Seems to be the case, Agreed!
Thanks for the comment, i now know what HACCP means!
Wow! It's quite an old system....it works! Happy Picking!
Were you a fisherman or a chef?
Great video. When I saw the key at the begining I thought I have to buy the lock but after watching how easy it is to open I'll just buy the key. Thank you for showing this awesome-key crappy-lock to us.
Thanks... I'm a fan of the key also!
Unbelievable how easy and quick they open - thanks for the nice demonstration.
Thanks.
Nice vid!
Frankly, the main point of these locks is protecting tools from being borrowed by one's colleagues. The chest is going to be in a secured location-and if it weren't, a thief could just roll it away.
20 yrs ago my toolbox was in a locked building someone broke in and busted toolbox up and took everything i had tore up a 18grand box
Roll it away with a rollaway tow truck maybe.
$44,000 worth of tools in a $20,000 tool box secured with a $2 lock - makes sense to me..........
They sell tools, so yeah...
The lock is $60
Hey Lawyer, you would like to think that a company like snap-on would have a much better lock being that the tools inside are so very expensive. Snap-on needs to see this and take action to up the security of these locks.
+Drew Estes Oh, I agree... with the quality of their items, one would expect better.
As a mechanic i can tell you, most times people don't even attempt to pick these locks, they'll try to knock them out, or break the lock bars. But boxes almost never get picked. I did know a guy who lost his keys and took the locksmith who came out over an hour to get into it.
Drew Estes my motorcycle uses these locks to lock the ignition and forks.
Why would someone go through the time and trouble of picking a toolbox lock when they can just take the box itself?
I have notified my Snap rep & it is in the pipe line to the Snap higher ups.
I recently bought a used Snap-on 55" roller cab. I like the box, but my first impression of the lock was that it was cheap trash with a cool looking key. It would appear I was correct in my initial assessment. Oh, and they can be bypassed by a piece of sheet metal slipped in above the top drawer.
I typed in tool the band and this poped up so got here from tool lol
take a little trip through some of the locksport videos, you might really like them! Be Well
john smythe I did I subed nice vids
Welcome to the party. Thanks for sticking around.
Tool had some real bangers yo.
I hope to one day own one of their albums when I have more spare money to spend at the record store.
I, recently, lost the keys to my model year 2015 snap-on box. New keys would take a few days so I tried to pick it. Had to grind down a 90* oring pick for my tensioning tool and a straight oring pick as the picking tool. The thing I discovered is the tension that is on the lock from the drawer locking mechanism made it impossible to hold the pins in a set position. I ended up ruining that lock where none of the pins would set. The hutch had no tension behind the lock and I was able to pick it after 60 seconds of messing with it. Was quite surprised I managed to do it. Ended up drilling out the box lock. No it is not made of high strength steel. Took 10 seconds of drilling and the core was out.....
Damn. This is crazy. I only have a 7 drawer SO tool cart. But it's still FULL off SO tools. Well over 10k. Amazing how easy someone could get into it if they wanted to.
Unfortunately I leave my box open all the time. So we'll.
Ya know
I leave mine open as well. No point to lock it when it’s this easy. And considering if a thief wants the tools and or box they’re gonna break into it or just steal whole box.
Snap-On has been shopping at harbor freight it seems.
the problem is, the weight of the bars that hook onto the back of the drawers is all residing on the lock, so turning it with a little pick tool without breaking the tool would be rather difficult
No sir I just tried it on a tool box and turned it smooth and easy
I know this is an old video. I’m a snap on tools dealers and I bought the hulk tool sets that you use in this video. I am a very mechanical person but for the life of me I cannot get that huk tool to work in the locks. I’m using the internal pin and the same exact huk tool that you use in this video.
I have customers all the time that a lose their keys or missed placed them and call me in a panic to come by and unlock their box. A lot of times I cannot because I do not have every single key that Snapon makes.
Can't get mine open with it either, works great on cornwell lock... Something tells me that the tension of the mechanism on the box itself interferes with the picking. Have heard of many bypass possibilities...
Schnebly Magee I agree. I think the lock installed on the box.....as I was trying.... keeps it from turning. Maybe the weight of the lock bar in the bocks is too heavy
Great content. So that Huk tool that opens illegal car boots also opens jammed tool box locks. Good to know.
I once had a cheap Sentry safe in the garage I was going to sell. I had another safe in the house with all my jewelry. The key to the garage safe was in my house safe. The house safe was burglarized. Yes, I lost everything valuable, papers, gold, diamonds, cash, the lot. Now how to open the garage safe? I knew I had another set of keys in that safe but locked in. Fortunately, there was a CZcams video on magnets. After much magnet work, it sprung open at last. It was a bit rusty from moisture in garage. I called Sentry but they could not help me since the model number was on the manual which was also gone. Always put the model # on the back of the safe in case. Also, always bolt down your safe to the floor and wall studs to make it hard to remove.
THANK GOODNESS FOR HUK..LOL SNAP ON REALLY NEEDS TO SEE THIS VIDEO. '''" VARY NICE VIDEO LPL .my nephew is general manager for a very large mechanical facility he tells me all the time how some of his workers lose their keys to their tool boxes. he says normally even on Pinto blurs they just torch the bolt off the Box. I'm going to send this video to him. probably will save them a lot of money.AND time. 💥💥💥💥💥😎
+Larry Marrs Torch? Damn. A locksmith seems like the way cheaper route!
LockPickingLawyer .not when it means get the work done now.😎 your on the clock.
Fair point.
Wow you would think Snap-on would want to protect their overpriced tools a little better but then you wouldn't have to buy more. Any suggestions on tubular tension wrench. I have a Sparrows but it's murder on the fingers.
LOL... Maybe overpriced, but I think the deal is that they warranty the heck out of them against breakage... so you only buy once. But for the dollar value these lock up, the security is a bit silly. As for tension tool for tubular locks, I use the one from USALockPicks.com ... Sparrows also has some new ones that look OK, but I'm with you on the Mantis (it can hurt the fingers).
Depending on the box size, there is a bar that needs to be lifted in order to truly unlock the box. I would say it’s about 3-4lb. That bar holds all the drawers in place when locked and I feel like a substantial tension tool would be needed on the cylinder. But that’s my opinion.
Not to mention, Snap on laser etches the key code on the front of the lock... I can see this is a K522 while pausing the video. You could easily get a new correct key shipped to you off their website. You probably won't read this, but any suggestions for a more secure lock????
Haven’t seen vid yet... i have this lock on my box and I lock it every day i have maybe 30,000 in tools im curious if this lock gonna secure my precious tools .
Damn that lock sucks
Is there anyway to improve it? Thanks LPL!
Yes, you can replace with an abloy or medeco cam lock and replace the tailpiece. Relatively simple to do. the important part is to find a replacement cam lock with the same dimensions.
Jon Doe they are actually pretty heavy gauge, much thicker than big box store brands. And from the design of mine, I think it would be pretty difficult to get into that way.
@@AudioOrchardMusic I agree with that one! They really are pretty nicely made boxes.. My "work" box is a $5,900 Matco, and DAMN, is that puppy HEAVY!!
@@AudioOrchardMusic With a decent (thin) cutoff wheel I could be into that box in less than a minute.
Get a few raspberry pi's. Put one with a camera attachment in a security camera shell, wire and hook everything up to work properly with transmitting video feed to a storage or server, then mount the camera shoulder level above your tool box facing in a way that will record anybody breaking into or picking your box. The very blatant and obvious recording security camera would likely deter most criminals, even if it's not actually working
You would think Snap-on would put better locks on their cabinets because they are tools are lots of money thank you you do a good job bye-bye
All these different videos show people opening tubular locks in a matter of seconds but when i follow their exact method with the same exact tool, it doesnt work for me. Why??
Update: I've discovered that on these Huk picks, I stretched 2 of those tension bands on top of the ones against the pick and the locks I have opened right up.
I've got a snap-on KRL series triple bank. its older but has that same key... I've got a set of these tubular picks, jus like his (mine is KLOM) so here's the thing, the key requires a lot of turning force because the weight of the draws locking mech, turning the key u are lifting all this heavy stuff... all in all I got it to work and probably had the lock itself set to turn a bunch of times , the force took both hands and made me nervous id damage the tool, but it did work, and the tool is fine.
jackpot, I think the tension wrench would be a wadded up mess if this was attempted on functioning toolbox, rather than spinning a lock in a vice. Tubular picks are out there, but pretty darn rare in all honesty and this lock requires an oddball and even more rare tubular pick.
Each lock probably holds 10k by itself. SnapOn is expensive AF!
A.I.rchist In my case, it is more like $35K... I am just a serious hobbyist.
Would like to see you do Matco (crap), MAC, Cornwell, and bunch oh the different service body truck lock on the doors. Let me dig out a couple, I have some when I replaced the locks on my last service truck.
first time i’ve seen someone single pin pick a tubular lock, really didn’t realize even single pin picking was so easy
Fellas if you lost your snap on toolbox keys. All you really have to do is call Snap On and give them the key lock number that’s on the lock and the serial number on the back of the box. I paid $20 and some change for two keys. Funny thing was they never asked me if I was the owner of the toolbox
A lock picking lawyer. Well I guess that supports what I think about lawyers.
My tool chest just has a 5 pin lock that I managed to "pick" by shoving a metal hangar in there and twisting
May I ask, do I have to have one tension wrench for lock picking a tubular lock😓😓
Like anything else the locks only job is to keep everyone honest the shops I worked in the tool boxes usually have 3 or 4 foot pry bars hanging on them and several cutting torches sitting around plus the guy that never locks his box has air chisels and air cutters and more pry bars and don’t forget all the tin snips so if someone wanted your stuff bad enough they could have the box opened faster than you with a key
Matco uses TuBAR locks, I've got a video opening one. I also have one on a snap-on lock, I have a lot of experience with tubular locks and I was surprised at the fight this one put up. It was brand new so I don't know if they wised up on the springs and driver's since I didn't have an impression tool but it put up quite a fight.
They're adequate for the purpose, keeping random people who wander by from stealing an expensive tool or two. Someone serious about theft would carry or roll the whole toolbox away and open it at their leisure anyway.
Perhaps... doesn't change the fact that these locks provide only a few seconds of manipulation resistance.
Only if the attacker has the foresight to show up with specialized tools such as a tubular lock impression tool or a tubular lock tensioner. While your mad skills leave no basic lock a challenge, most folks aren't prepared to practice for months and obtain esoteric skills and tools to steal someone's toolbox contents. They'll either steal something while it is open, or steal the entire box and pry or pound it open.
I would beg to differ. With how expensive snap on tool boxes are someone would want to wheel it away and get it open without damaging it. And if that meant 3 months of lockpicking practice I know many people that would go to that trouble if they really wanted to steal something.
I just watched your video about Master padlocks and why you do not post more videos of them. You mentioned that Kwikset and Schlage locks provide very little security. So, based on that, what locks do you use on your home?
I've changed my view a bit since then... Frankly, opening them is a bit boring for me, but I figure nothing will ever change unless I (and other like me) spread the word. So I am definitely including more of the lower security stuff these days. As for my house, what's the point of a high security lock with wooden door frames and several ground floor windows? My security $$ are better spent on a good electronic security system.
LockPickingLawyer I have a slightly different view, although I agree with you re windows. I believe in good quality locks (i.e., Schlage grade 2 doorknobs and grade 1 deadbolts with anti-bump pins and spools & serrateds added along with strong 3-inch screws into the doorframe). Instead of a monitored security system ($35 per month), I use some of that money to buy more insurance for theft/burglary. With a monitored alarm, a burglar will be in and out before the police arrive. I also have ADT signs at the front of the house for the sake of deterrence.
i can vouch for little security. after watching a few LPL videos . i found an old kwikset dead bolt .that i have no key for.. got the wiper blade off an old car of mine. made a couple tools and picked it after a few tries more of a rake not SPP.
100% agree with only the highest $$$ lock being any good. I'd be interested in your path to a "good" electronic security system. I'd like one that uses the cell towers. High praise for your production values on top of your pickin' skills! Lawson di Ransom Canyon
We had a truck plow through our bay door load up ALL of our tool boxes and run, im 80% sure they are using my snap on pry bar to pop the lip up since the metal holding the thing shut is thin and the tops are super thin once they pry mine open they have all my tools to get the rest open
I just stumbled across this and wondered how the heck you could pick it. Special tools of course lol great job LPL 😆
i'd like to say i'm surprised, but being an ex-technician i can say "it's Snap-On" so i'm not really surprised at all, £10 tools with £100 engraving.
I wish I saw this video yesterday because I needed to single pin pick a similar lock on my US General toolchest. It also had a pin with no driver that threw me off a bit, as well as it being my first tubular lock attempt. Eventually I got it.
Snap On? More like gone in a snap.
In this case it is only to keep honest people honest, customers from walking away with a freebie, and fellow mechanics from “ borrowing “ tools or sabotaging your job.
Anti theft security is kind of pointless with the lock.
Depending on the trade, the box is usually in a secured ( varies) location.
The boxes while quality are built to hold tools and are not burglary safes.
They are easy enough to thwart with the tools that another mechanic already has.
While theses can be rolled across a shop, they will usually be transported with a flat wrecker.
While not impossible to steal, you have to get past the owner of the box, take it from the premises, get past security and alarms, dogs, and people with firearms. Still need a method to load and transport.
How lucky do you feel?
Picking it is low on the list.
Got my box open with one of these. It wasn’t nearly as easy as this guy did it though.
My husband lost the key to his Snap-on tool box. Can I lock it without a key, or should we just replace the tubular lock?
No tool box has a good lock you better just hope the shop has one
Where can I get a tool pick set like in this video? I’m buying a locked toolbox from HF as a gift for half off since it’s an open box return but I want to open it without damaging anything then replacing the lock that has a key
About tubular locks. Besides an impression tool, what can you use for tension IF your lock does Not have an index on the center portion? Is there a manufactured turning tool besides the impressioning tool or do you have to make one?
Also, do you have a video on breaking down and gutting a tubular lock like this to change it? Or is that not possible?
Depends on what need to be tensioned. If the center post, then a resized cartridge case works nicely.
Not the center post. It's the outside ring. The lock is a BELL Catalyst 200 U-lock. It's the first tubular lock I have gotten to try and pick. (the only one actually).
I didn't even notice the difference in the key when I bought it. I just saw it was a tube and it was a good price so...
Thanks
I'm not familiar with that bell lock, but did you see my video #355? Is it like that?
I re-watched your 355 and the difference's are that It has NO index on the center post at all and no mechanism to depress in the center post.
The only thing it has is an index to tension in the outer ring and then the 7 pins,
I wish I could post a picture of it to show you.
In the research I have done on you tube the lock mostly shows the pin tumbler style of this lock OR someone just using an impressioning tool to open it.
I just picked it up at wally world in the bicycle section a few days ago for like $11.00.
I would love to get your help on this
+Charlie Blum Like the Rock Bros lock that Bosnian Bill recently posted? If so, I have something similar inbound.
My dad has over $40,000.00 In tools including a $9,500.00 computer locked away in a box protected by this lock and the doors of his building is protected by master locks- but he has an trick and that is he squirts an large amount of heavy tack grease into the locks. Deaden the sounds of clicks, super sticky core and you can't really tell where your pick is, it also slides off of the pins often when you do find them.
with all the money snap on charges for the tool chests/carts you would think they would at least spend a $5 on a lock instead of going for a cheap circular lock and calling it more secure than regular locks.
Thanks for this. I have the same style lock on my powerbuilt toolbox which unless someone has been playing with it appears to be rotating itself (I have my doubts). In the meantime if it's not going to protect the security of my tools, at least I can try get this back to the unlock position so I can at least transit my tools without the drawers sliding open :/
is your technique still the same for impressioning tools? I just started, and I noticed if at first I just press down the lock very slowly so I can see each pin move separately, then just press faster and faster, then turn, sometimes try turning again, and the lock is open, any tubular lock until now. I never twist and turn at the same time. That technique actually destroyed all my keypins.
You know what’s amazing when I lost my key I knew exactly where to look to get it open 😂
Great vid. Where can I get a t3nsion tool like that ? I’ve got L-shaped ones but I can’t seem to find one like the one you used.
I don't know the Snap-On Tool Chest.
Was you able to get this particular lock out non-destructively? Are there other more secure locks, that could go in it's place?
LPL, not sure if you look at these older videos but do you have a few suggestions as to a better tubular style lock for tool boxes?
I prefer these older more detailed vids over the current ones that are under 2 minutes.
Great demonstration. I really enjoy your videos. Can you please provide information on your tensioning tool? Did you make this one? I have been looking all over the WEB for the one you have but am unable to find much. Thanks for sharing your knowledge and creativity.
is there a better lock to replace the snap on lock?
Literally here to unlock my snap on boxes lol lost my keys.
That is really disappointing that my 14k toolbox lock that protects my 38k worth of tools can be picked so fast
Just watched this video. The EASIEST Method, not mentioned, albeit takes longer, is to JUST BUY A KEY from SNAP-ON! The key code is laser engraved in the face of the lock! Look at it at a certain angle and you can read it, then order the key. I took an auto mechanics class at the local high school. I bought the 4 different keys from snap on, no questions, that the boxes took to use the tools!
also this video shows why my tool did not work well, must have been the wrong size. then I just bought the keys, it was a lot easier!
yup and also if you grind off the detent that goes into the lock and unlock slot on a snap on key, it fits most of their locks. figured this out when had one toolbox get stuck between lock and unlock where it wasn't pushed shut all the way and locked and then sprung back between lock and unlock. ordered a new lock but had to get the old one out first and ground off the detent so it would fit inside and worked no issues. went to another box keyed with different lock and it unlocked it with ease. its almost like caterpillar products, they all use the same damn key.
Is there an aftermarket lock specifically made for a toolbox application that is more secure?
In the UK they sell ones that are Bluetooth and actuated from behind your bottom drawer. Walk up to the box and it opens walk away it locks
Great picking as always, and nice vid, Thanks for the info.
Cheers!
Thanks.
To make it virtually impossible to open a lock is to have a multiple lock sequence, that is a number of events must happen within a certain time and in a specific order, to open. This means a standard lock coupled with other hidden or obscured locking systems, that are impossible to detect. Other trick is to block the key way so its virtually impossible to fit bumping and picking tools in to the lock. This meas you would have to make up a special tool to pick the lock. The idea here is to make a massive hastle, and for those that will make up the key and pick the lock open, is a waste of time because there are other locks to open in a certain sequence and within a time, and yes its different for every lock..
is this vise you have here in your older videos like a harbor freight vacuum bench vise?
I had some dumb ass kid just pop the lock off my box but was not able to get access to the drawers due to the lever mechanism that locks the drawers. so glad he doesn't watch your videos
SPPing a tubular lock cylinder appears far easier than a traditional lock; there is no blind fumbling through a jagged key way and no high/low bidding to work a pick around without upsetting the other pins. Furthermore, tubular locks are seemingly always mounted in a horizontal, static position making an “open” even easier than fumbling with a padlock.
Does Snap On offer a keyless entry option with a FOB, like a car? At least the tools to defeat that wouldn’t be found on a shop floor swept in a corner.
I have seen a SO tool box w a fob push button lock/unlock. But the box also had the tubular key locks, so I don't know if it was manual override or what.
Not many steal from an open box.
Most simply load the entire box on a Tommy Gate and roll out.
Your awesome. Gonna go get me some wrenches for myself
Thanks.
"Tens of thousands of dollars worth of tools" so, a single snap on truck?
Is there anyway to make tubular locks more “secure” like how you can put those wafers on pin locks
I wonder if they thought the faux-pin and driverless pin would foil impressioning tools.
Theft from outside isn't the issue really. It's the guys you work with. I worked in a large dealership that had a lot of employee turn around. New guys with no tools like to borrow and never return. Even when they know you know they have your shit they still don't return it you have to hunt them down and find it in there box. The best part is when they say they don't know how that got in their box like they don't know right. It's not just new guys either I worked with guys for years not my personal friends who you don't let borrow shit.
Very true. I worked with body man who would just come to my box and grab shit. Finally had it with him and had to get a locking hanger for my creeper too. I still want to punch that cross dressing weirdo in the face.
Great job picking as always brother. Thanks for the review!
Apparently, if youurn the box upside down it opens👍
Where can I purchase I tubular tension wrench like that?
USALockPicks.com ... when they are in stock.
Will the covert instruments tubular lock pick work on these locks?
Would you know where I can get a tension tool like the one you are using in this video? I did not see one on your site. Thanks
I recently let my batteries die on an electronic safe. I attempted to retrieve my lost key and was let down.
I decided to just drill the tubular lock because the stuff in there couldn't wait.
I was exceptionally disappointed on how easy it was to nuke that lock.
Are there any suggestions for a replacement lock that would be harder to do that, or if it were tried it would protect itself better?
So what is the best lock for my toolboxes
If I'm gonna steel tools I'm opening that box with a medium size Halligan Bar. Tools go in a large sack, cause I'm having a fire sale in a week.
It is snap on, safe to say it protects billions of dollars a day. :p
I swear to GOD you sound like a dentist :D Anyway I love your videos !
It is plenty secure. Who do you know at your shop that has the tools to pick a barrel lock? Of course with the right tools you can do the same thing. To loosen a tight bolt you use the correct wrench or socket. You dont use a pair of pliers.
thanks LPL i almost bought this .as always friend thank you
I know this is years back for you. But is there an option of a lock that offers more security then these? I own 2 of these boxes with this exact locking system and I've always wondered if there's something better out there. Thanks in advance.
what is the link for that tension tool!? Older sparrows?
Honestly I expected better from this lock after you explained what it's protecting.
What do you recommend im getting my stuff stolen weekly at work....i changed from matco lock to a tubular like this....shit, i cant believe how much money im out and i purchased a POS box that cost mega bucks
Snap on makes me laugh even the wife was laughing out loud as she hears me moaning how crappy so-called security locks are lock companies should be made to publish picking times not clame high security
+John Dickenson that would be great if lock company's published times. It would give us benchmarks to try to beat!
Hi, LPL. I was trying this on my tool box (the only tubular lock I own) and I have the Sparrow's Goat Wrench but it has nothing to tension against. I have tried other ways of tensioning but nothing seems to be working.
I've got a Kobalt Garage Cabinet I'm trying to get back into and I've got the HUK toolset. I don't know what I'm doing wrong but it seems right now I've got the unlockable tube lock. Anyone have experience with these?
what year is that lock from? it doesn't even have the key number on it. trying to pick my snap on box and cant seem to do it with the HUK 7.5. i got my box in 2016. just curious if maybe they made some security adjustments.
@lockpickinglawyer how does this compare to other tubular toolbox locks, is this the better choice from others or is there a better brand?
Ughhh it happened to be twice already where my lock on my snap on box went to the neutral position lol its like some weird phenomenon. And No I don't want to grind my nipple on the key lol