(093) Beginners Guide to Curtained Lever Locks and Lever Lock Picking
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Lock Noob where can i buu these tools and what are their names
Nice video, very nicely detailed, but there is 1 doubt, how do you find the talon of the bolt of a curtain lever padlock with a tensioner ? I mean the mortise lock you've used has a prominent curtain that pretty much acts as a support to the bolt when the tensioner tool is turned, but in a normal curtain lever padlock, the curtain & bolt are separate, so how to recognize with the tensioner which is the bolt shoulder where the pressure needs to be applied ?
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Awesome vid!! I’ve got a simple question Noob. I saw that your tension tool to turn the cam was quite a bit shorter than what the original key provided. I see many tensioner made with them full length like the original key. Is it usually unnecessary to make them full length like the original key?
Nice tutorial.
LockPickingLawyer thank you :-) now I just need the skill to be able to pick it blind, lol
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The emperor have spoken!
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Correct…
I’m retired at 75 now, but, as a lad of 15, I worked at an ironmongery where we were encouraged to open up locks so as to see how they work. I was also taught how to cut keys.
As such, I desired a vocation as a lock smith.
Training an individual for ironmongery was an expensive outlay for the company, it was a night school thing at the time, so the management dissuaded me from following that course. As a result, I went into electronics.
Never actually loosing that desire to pick locks purely to assist the unfortunate situations we all might find ourselves in. Now, I have the time to tinker around with locks noticing that cheap lock picking kits are now available. Assuming of course that they work.
So having spent a considerable amount of time studying 3,5 lever’s mortise locks, the older type cylinder (Yale) type. Never loosing the interest over the years, so CZcams is a great source of information and inspiration to further that interest.
Thank you for the reminders, as well as some interesting issues that being a locksmith can bring. Great video
Thank you for watching!
This has got to be the single best lever lock picking explanation out there. Great job, learnt a lot in 13 mins! :)
Thanks dude, that's nice if you to say :-) thanks for watching :-)
Well done, Lock Noob. That's the first time I've watched a lever lock picking video and thought 'got it!'.
That's very kind of you: I'm glad you got something from it :-) If I had more time, money and space, lever picking would be nice to branch off into
Cool video. As a locksmith in Boston, I don't run into lever locks too often, especially ones that are still in use. Great explanation of how they work and picking methods involved!
Thank you :-)
When he said 'introduce you to the key' did anyone else go "HELLO KEY!" ?
My word, I JUST picked up locksport, and am only now waiting for my top of the keyway tensioners in the mail now. Yesterday I saw a scrap piece of wire clothes hanger and thought about hammering the end down, as Im an amateur blacksmith.
This video has given me a sign that I'm to blend my two skills.
The KiloWhiskyForge now has a direction, and a goal.
Excellent description of how these locks work,I come across these fairly regularly and generally drill them to access the gate area but I have made a key similar to yours however I cut the key down less so it automatically sets the lowest cut lever ,sometimes there is non in but sometimes two so you then have to only pick the three remaining levers,loving your video’s keep em coming 👍
Damn, never thought this kind of lock is so difficult to open!
rubbers3, well, the 2 lever non-Curtained ones are a lot more simple, but this is a relatively high security version of a Curtained Lever Lock :-)
Lock Noob I think he's being sarcy?
@@feetthong624 I think rubbers3 is confusing a warded lock which looks similar from the outside but is in fact much simper to open.
Excactly my thinking. I was thinking those 'old fashioned big key locks' provided little security. But seems, when done well, takes some serious tooling. After all, his were custom made.
It just dawned on me that I had absolutely zero knowledge on how a mortise lock worked or how to pick one. Thanks for the very informative video.
Thanks 🙏
I remember those big ol chubb padlocks from when I was a kid, the council used to use them on park gates....big heavy duty boat anchors😂
More detailed than others ive seen, Thanks for the inside advice on how the mechanism of the lock works, brilliant.
Thanks 🙏
finally a Video that clearly explains Each of Industry Terms or names given to each part of the lock such as Gate or why it's called Curtain, which other videos usually omit or assumed we knew.
But most of all, the video is filmed with the OPTIMAL lighting, and angle WITHOUT distracting movement or unnecessary time consuming demonstrations that to see the exact inner workings as it unlocks and locks.
Thank you.
Thank you for such a clear and simple explanation of how lever locks work. Much appreciated. 👍 Looks like 144 lock manufacturers didn't like this video.
Glad to help
Very useful, thanks. I have often wondered how those types of lock work compared to pin and tumbler locks, now i know!
Thank you :-)
Great job. Being an American I encountered these in Italy. They really threw me because the door had 3-4 locks and getting them all to the open position was no fun at all. That combined with a 3 inch thick steel door with 1 inch thick bolts made me feel like the apartment was a vault.
Sounds secure!
Nice tutorial! It's worth mentioning that due the shape of the levers, you can relock the lock by basically just trying to overlift all levers so you really don't need to really pick it to re-lock it without a key. Some other lever lock designs may have false gates for the other direction, too.
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You seriously need more subscribers this is the best I've found so far that actually made sense.
I'm still fairly new to Locksport, and have never tried to pick a lever lock. Truthfully, I wasn't even exactly sure how they worked. This excellent video explained it perfectly! Thanks @Lock Noob! You da man!
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Excellent and well explained detail of the Curtain principle and demonstrated admirably. Even more so having constructing your own tools. Well done and many thanks.
Thank you for the nice comment :-)
Thank you for this. I was studying lever locks in my locksmith studies and needed to see what everything was about.
Please watch this instead! These are FAR better czcams.com/play/PLXm18pW-yyX7qhybbWL85Y80JeN2K9vhY.html
I've never seen or thought about how the lever locks work, very interesting and as always well presented. thanks heaps !
Thank you :-)
Thank you so much with your tutorial it helped a lot 10 minutes ago…I almost slept out
the best video on picking in CZcams
Being new to lock picking (as a hobby that is!!) This video is fantastic. Thank you so much for posting. You have explained and demonstrated in a perfect and easy way for me to understand. A very well done.
Thank you, I appreciate that :-)
Thanks for the teaching. I am reasonably good on pin tumblers and this is just what I need to learn how to pick mortice locks. I really appreciate the full explanations you give. Thank you again, best wishes.
Thank you :-)
Brilliant tutorial. It's really cool to see you progress with lockpicking. Always spurs me on to get back into picking.
Happy picking :-)
Very interesting,
I like these types of locks as they are much harder than they look.
lol
Cheers & Happy pickin!
One day I'll try it covered. One day. Maybe
I love the old CHUBB Battleship range, one of my first ever levered picking challenges! I didn't know what to expect inside, so I had a hard time navigating the false gates. As an inexperienced lock manipulator, I didn't have a good working knowledge of the internal structure prior to picking. Thanks for sharing. 👍
They can be tough locks!
Quote of the day, "Locks are for Honest Men". (And your Insurance installments).
Lol
Now that was a great video mate and will help lots of newbies out regarding mortice locks. Really enjoyed watching it. I have not had my mortice picks out for some time.
Thank you waddac2, means a lot :-)
You are more than welcome. Keep them coming ;o))))
That’s fascinating, and a really good visual example of how lever locks work, as well as their anti picking features.
What really blows my mind after seeing this, is how long lever locks have actually existed for, the parts are nowhere near as small as those in pin locks, but it’s still a clever design, that needs relatively accurately made parts to work.
Thanks for watching :-)
Maybe it's simply a matter of familiarity and exposure level, but I find curtained lever much more challenging than pin tumblers. The ones with only single gates are easy enough, but the ones with many levers, complete with serrated notches and false gates can be a nightmare. Being in the states, these are sadly an extraordinarily rare find.
I'd love to hear from someone (if such a soul exists) who works almost exclusively with these, and rarely pin stacks, if they find good lever locks more or less challenging than a decent pin tumbler lock, say a Schlage with uncooperative pinning.
Great video, love these style locks.
Go check out Andy Mac’s channel, he picks lever locks almost exclusively :-)
Super cool way of illustrating how these locks work. Thanks so much!
Thanks :-)
3:41 you actually told me where the key goes 😂😂😂
Great video. I have been planning to try to make some lever picks so that can try to pick a couple lever locks that I recently acquired. This video really improved my understanding of what the tools need to do - which will help me to make them and hopefully have a chance of picking the locks open.
Thanks :-)
I'm a carpenter and can do the yale locks , but looking to learn how to pick a mortice just in case i need it, this opened my eyes very good guide
Richard Hunt thanks :-)
These locks are on lots of doors, especially "storm" doors in the UK as I'm sure you're are aware of. Good to see someone actually showing how they work and how to pick the curtain ones. Most don't have that feature so I'm guessing that just a skeleton key would open most?
Cheers mate, really enjoyed that 🙂👍
Thanks for the video! That was my first look at lever lock and it was very interesting! I am a lock noob like yourself and really like anything new. Unfortunately I watched.the Chubb vid first. This cleared it up nicely thank you again. I will look forward to more.
James Murphy thanks for watching :-)
Wow, friend, how come it took me 2 years to find this? Must be goin' blind! Just top quality work, chap. I've been around a few locks and spent a few hours mooching around youtube locksport antics. I'm pure amateur, very occasional tourist to the sport but find it fascinating. However, mortice/curtain locks have always been a dark art.......'till now! That has taught me more in 10 mins than all the tube stuff in years. Thank you kindly, friend, sub'd in an instant and looking forward to playing catchup with some bimge locknoob watching. Take care, bloke.....
Thanks friend :-)
I found it really interesting. Thanks for almost reverse picking the lock too
Thanks 🙏
Great explanation of lever locks and picking. Thanks!
Thank you :-)
best explanation .found everything needed for a fresher
Thanks :-)
Awesome video - very interesting stuff perfectly explained and demonstrated. I was fascinated throughout the whole video. Great job in presenting this - thank you. Looking forward for more lever-videos like this :-)
Thank Potti314 :-) I enjoyed making this video. As an when I have the money, I'll buy myself some more lever lock picking equipment as it's really good fun
Hi Lock Noob, great intro to Lever lock picking. I am fascinated to how lever locks can be picked, as in the UK as I am sure you know, most doors seem to contain a lever lock as well as a pin tumbler. I really would like to see much more content on this subject.
How about a DIY curtain pick making tutorial? Those things are so damn expensive!!
I asked BosnianBill about these locks, explaining how common they are over in the UK, but he claimed to have never picked one!
Keep up the great work! All ready in love with this channel!
Mr Cessna thanks for watching :-) I'm still really new to lever locks, but I'm learning what I can with what I have. I might do something on lever wires, but only when I get more confident with the subject matter.
Great stuff, no rush, looking forward to any new lever lock content! Thank you😊
Pick a skeleton lock
Cool video. Nice to see this type of thing covered. Good job.
Thank you :-)
I love lever locks. And picked a few. But great video For beginners. Thanks
Thanks dude!
Had a chubb 6 lever lock off an old black A & B public telephone, very nicely machined with tight tolerance fences & gate and false notches. Even with the lock case open in front of me, was impossible to pick. This was a safe lock used on the money compartment. would like to see how u pick a chubb safe lock. Awesome video:-)
Those locks can be tough!
Good introductory video for us beginners. Thank you.
You are welcome!
Great video, fantastic explanation! Thanks for sharing. 👍👍
Thank you :-)
It's called mortise lock because it mimics a mortise and tenon join. The door with the bolt projecting becomes the tenon, locking into the recess of the mortise in the frame
Indeed :-)
Thanks, super helpful, I was able to open a cedar chest that we had lost the key for ( only one lever thankfully but still😉)
Thanks. Very well demonstrated
Thank you! 😀
very cool! not something we see too often.
Thank you :-)
Bravo,bravo 👏👍👍
Wounderful video,thanks for taking the time to make it😘😘🍻😎😎😎
Thank you Pick Beard :-)
Lock Noob no Thank You sir 👍👍😘😎😎😎
thank you. Id always wondered about these types of locks. :) fantastic
That was really interesting and very well explained, thanks
Thank you :-)
Great video, very concise and well explained
Than you :-)
Useful video, my lock is currently refusing to let me in using the key and trying to figure out how to make it turn before I escalate to destruction.
you done really well mate I've never done that before
Jackcc5, thanks for watching :-)
Great explanation on how these work.
Thanks :-) try this too :-)czcams.com/play/PLXm18pW-yyX7qhybbWL85Y80JeN2K9vhY.html
trying to learn to pick the lock for the door leading to my building's terrace! need that fresh air during quarantine :)
Be careful not to damage a lock in use. I never pick locks I rely on
At least i know what you call it. Thanks
Now to learn the picking business end
Well done, really helped me understand the ... beast.
Thanks :-)
Really excellent video and explanation.
Excellent and informative video.
Subscribed.
Thanks 😊
Very interesting ... my search was to understand the workings of a mortice lock as I have a problem with one, the locking bolt doesn't quite retract far enough causing a bind of 0.5 mm or so. I'll try the "lawnmower fix" technique of pulling it apart, cleaning it, and putting it back together! The springs worry me a little, as in: will they fly away? Many thanks for this informative exploded view of how it works!
Just take care, but you can learn a lot that way!
Lock Noob it worked ... pulled it down, took all the lock levers out in order, cleaned it up including filing the bolt a wee bit. Back together and it’s sweet!
ok got my lock /plastic new front making the tools like yours (i hope ) lol great vid thanks keep the good work up ,,
Thanks and good luck :-)
Nicely done mate
Thanks 👍
great video , well explained,
Always been curious how lever locks work, since there are not a lot of "gutting a lever lock" videos around.
Please watch my playlist on Lever Locks - you won't regret it!
Andy mac lock lab I buy all my lever stuff from him beautiful wires and 5 and 7 gauge tensioners and his padlock pick set is just awesome beautifully hand made
They really are!
i had a few old chubb 6 pin lever locks of the money compartment of old public telephones. Even with the cover removed and the lock fully exposed in front of me, with all the false notches and beautifully engineered Chubb lock, I was unable to pick any of them, so, if you want security, Chubb are the best.
They make really great locks, or at least they did :-)
Brilliant video, it is explained very well
Thanks 🙏
Another excellent video.
After spending 1-hour trying to free a jammed lever lock on my front door I finally got it open. This video gave me the confidence to remove it, in the hopes that it would be in need of cleaning and I would be able to get it more reliable. I did get a shock when I opened my lock and found it had 7 Levers! I was able to dismantle it, carefully numbering the parts, clean it and reassemble it. My one concern is that with the door open if I close the lock I can push the bolt back into the lock. Obviously this isn't possible if the door is in the closed position and I lock the door but I wonder if this is a feature or if there is still something wrong. If I turn the key slightly more than 360° and then back a little bit and remove the key it is then not possible to push the boat back into place and I welcome any comments on this.
Is it one of those locks where you have to rotate the key twice to get it to fully lock?
What would you say the best universal lever / curtain lever lock pick out there is ?
Very nice video 👍 to learn how it works 👍🔓👏💯✅
Thx to you Master!!!
Well explained. Thank you.
Thank you :-)
Very interesting pick, thanks for vid
The Madhatter thank you :-)
great demo
Thank you :-)
Thank you for this video Lock Noob, I really love all your guides, they are always clear and easy to understand. Did you make this clear lock cover yourself?
Thank you :-) the lock cover and lock were from the very good Walkers Locksmiths site :-)
Lock Noob
Thanks, I have seen these on WL, I thought they were a little expensive for a bit of perspex or something.
Hobby Picker: please just double and triple check what you are buying, the perspex covers are sold separate to the lock a lot of the time and are expensive. The lock and cover when sold together is about £25-35. If it looks like a bargain, check what you are buying as the descriptions are often vague
Lock Noob
Thanks, that is a good tip, I have often found that the pictures in WL tool catalogue can be misleading, you really must check the description.
Nice one very interesting , thanks!
Thanks for watching 😀
I am going to attempt to make a cut down key like yours myself can yoi advise how i might do so? Beautiful work also.
Nice the only thing you didn't mention is mirror image key because it works from both sides of the lock.
This is a lock of a safe.
@@LucidPreditor no just a normal house door lock here in the uk
yes very interesting video, good one L.N.
Thank you :-)
Loves it ❤
Nice vid dude, don't see enough vids about lever locks . Shame the Chris belcher tool is so bloody expensive - otherwise I'd already own one! The uncurtained picks are about 20-40 on UK bumpkeys but the curtained version is 200!
I know. The price of entry is stopping me from taking up lever lock picking more. One day maybe :-)
Just wondering how you would apply the tension when the lock is fitted on the right hand side instead of the left. The deadbolt cam is obviously in front & not at the back which means you need to get through the tensioner to get to the levers
What do you call the ones with a side ways key hole ==O like this.
I have an old storage cupboard, I can't figure out how to open it?
Brilliant video
Thanks
Great work, 👍👍👍👍👌👌👌👌😊
Thanks 🙏
Question: if you are tensioning the bolt from the rear, what would you do if picking from the other side? You'd have to tension from the front and there'd be no room to slip the pick wire, no?
You are tensioning on the curtain, so it works fine :-)
Awesome, thank you.
Thank you :-)
I think I heard you say you can buy a tension tool that fits in multiple locks..any pointers for one available to the U.S. please? Excellent vid BTW! True has more room than a false. Good pointer.
No idea for the US, sorry. The U.K. sell most of the curtain picks I think :-)
The low belley on number 4, stops you from getting to number 5 with the pick, as it rests on the curtain. It isnt a zero lift like a pin tumbler.
It's the only way my pin-picking head could explain it as. I think it acts in the same way as a zero lift as they would normally be put in to 'protect' shorter pins behind it. This 'zero lift' lever does a similar job here and really does make it much harder (but not impossible) to slip by. I'm certainly a very long way from being an expert on lever locks though :-)
Make the pick wire thinner, and practice getting under and around lever 4 to get to 5. instead of starting at 5, and working forward. The binding order seldom works in your favour, as it did in the video.
Good advice :-) and yes, I was mega lucky with the binding order. At some point I'll practice it blind
Looking at the video again. One thing I find too when using the perspex cover, it sometimes compresses the levers making them act differently then when the normal steel cover is in.(making them bind differently). Keep up the good work.
Yes, I had to squirt in a bit of 3 in 1 and loosen the screws to stop them being so sticky. They were still not quite moving independently as you saw
So if you are locked out of your house, because you lost your keys, how do you improvise those tools, especially the cut down key/tension tool? Not like you are likely to even have a coathanger lying around handy either, let alone a hammer to make it the right size? Probably still need a locksmith, or somebody with a lot of tools, which during Covid lockdown could be tricky.
Cheers!
You’ve explained that really well, if only they all had clear fronts
With only a little work and some Perspex, you can do this yourself. Vid coming soon :-)
Lock Noob I remember a post on UKLS on someone (you?) cutting the front recently. It cracked at the last touch🥴
Susan Cox that’s certainly happened to me. Just did it again :-)