Extracting strontium with a microwave

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  • čas přidán 6. 03. 2023
  • We destroy something beautiful in order to extract some delightful strontium ions. Twitter: / explosions_fire
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    Paper: Direct conversion of celestine to SrS by microwave heating
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    Music taken from the Aphex Twin Soundcloud dump that happened..... several years ago now I think. I hate to think about the passing of time lol
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  • @nedf2357
    @nedf2357 Před rokem +2897

    I see Tom got bored of the ice cream maker. Time to move onto an appliance that can do some chemistry

    • @ExtractionsAndIre
      @ExtractionsAndIre  Před rokem +1495

      Bold of you to suggest I won’t end up using the ice cream machine for chemistry

    • @EvocativeKitsune
      @EvocativeKitsune Před rokem +308

      @@ExtractionsAndIre Hydrazine synthesis in the ice-cream machine!

    • @saladyn1000
      @saladyn1000 Před rokem +141

      @@ExtractionsAndIre remember that salt tasting episode you've made? How about making ice creams with non-toxic/poisonous substances?

    • @uffle
      @uffle Před rokem +66

      @@saladyn1000 do a nile red and synthesize artificial flavours

    • @kerajit
      @kerajit Před rokem +108

      @@ExtractionsAndIre Two words, explosive icecream

  • @srub8051
    @srub8051 Před rokem +2205

    I was so mentally stuck on kitchen appliances that when you said you were going to add CO2 to the solution, I jumped straight to "yes, put it in a sodastream you madman"

    • @ExtractionsAndIre
      @ExtractionsAndIre  Před rokem +1414

      DAMN THATS A GOOD IDEA

    • @andrewamann2821
      @andrewamann2821 Před rokem +211

      ​@@ExtractionsAndIre I mean, as pressurized CO2 sources go, it's widely available, but that's likely a hellaciously expensive route to go here. The machine is interesting, but get an adapter, and use a refillable bottle (like you can get for paintball guns...), and you can get them refilled for hella cheap.

    • @radomane
      @radomane Před rokem +63

      I'm imagining Hamilton seeing the elaborate CO2 bubbling setup, seeing this comment and just going "HA!"

    • @JamesTK
      @JamesTK Před rokem +34

      @@andrewamann2821 given their abundance, a bunch of people just use the Sodastream bottles with an adaptor for a CO2 source

    • @Mwwwwwwwwe
      @Mwwwwwwwwe Před rokem +8

      ​@@ExtractionsAndIre could you not just add vinegar to the hydroxide then decomposed the acetate to carbonate with heat

  • @Darkshadows9776
    @Darkshadows9776 Před rokem +698

    You roaming the wilderness for carbon is like an Australian wizard trying to find supplies for their potion.

  • @matthewkatz7320
    @matthewkatz7320 Před rokem +206

    Haha, I'm a ceramic glaze designer and was literally sitting here editing Strontium glazes as this video came up. Its amazing in glazes, with great textures and color reactions. It functions as one of the two fluxes used in ceramic glazes, so they are still alumino-silicate glasses, but the Alkaline Earth contributions dictate the specific crystal structures in matte glazes and the color reactions. That said, Strontium is not that popular in my field, but I like it a lot.

  • @LiaLia0407
    @LiaLia0407 Před rokem +1114

    "i genuinely forget how fun this is"
    congratulations tom, you just discovered humanity's favorite ancient passtime: smashing rocks together!

    • @jamesgilbert124
      @jamesgilbert124 Před rokem +43

      That "Aw, hell yeah!" gave me a solid smile.

    • @LFTRnow
      @LFTRnow Před rokem +8

      ...and to all the rest of you out there, the secret is to... bang the rocks together guys! (HHGTG quote, David Bowie)

    • @Blueoceandog
      @Blueoceandog Před rokem +5

      It "sparks joy".

    • @mikeoxmall69420
      @mikeoxmall69420 Před rokem +6

      *Ooga Booga intensifies*

    • @AJarOfYams
      @AJarOfYams Před rokem +3

      Dopamine go brrr

  • @thebeardprevails5246
    @thebeardprevails5246 Před rokem +284

    Rusty hammer crystals and matress carbon. This is the kind of production quality that keeps me coming back.

  • @part7
    @part7 Před rokem +89

    As a non-chemist, i've been wracking my brain wondering where i know of uses for strontium from, because i knew it wasn't the fireworks example. It took me 30 minutes of going through all the chemistry youtube videos i've watched over the years to finally remember.
    Eve online. It's starbase fuel in eve online.

  • @anguskeenan4932
    @anguskeenan4932 Před rokem +85

    I love how Tom could 100% just check the maximum possible heat stress (whatever you call it) numbers online and know if porcelain is actually suitable for this use, but he just choose not

    • @cyanidenightshade
      @cyanidenightshade Před 10 měsíci +9

      This is even funnier knowing he's working on a physics phd

  • @RealShebang
    @RealShebang Před rokem +523

    I love this channel (and E&F) because its like how we'd have to do science in a post apocalyptic settings without access to any good tools.

    • @petevenuti7355
      @petevenuti7355 Před rokem +69

      Broke chemistry.

    • @ExtractionsAndIre
      @ExtractionsAndIre  Před rokem +392

      its worth mentioning that I got the microwave for free from the side of the road lol

    • @Mis73rRand0m
      @Mis73rRand0m Před rokem +23

      Similar to Cody at this point but from the other side of the world.

    • @Phriedah
      @Phriedah Před rokem +45

      @@Mis73rRand0m Cody is chaotic good, E&F is chaotic neutral

    • @chessgaming9942
      @chessgaming9942 Před rokem

      @@Phriedah nile is lawful evil

  • @GlassVulture
    @GlassVulture Před rokem +126

    Feral science where one ghathers their wicked magic ingredients from the wild and uses abstract utensil to create magic rocks is my favourite genre

    • @Sky-._
      @Sky-._ Před rokem +14

      Definitely the same genre as the candle+charcoal+sulfur alchemy video.

    • @stardeki
      @stardeki Před rokem

      obsessed with how you spelled gathers, with the h, is that a regional thing?

    • @GlassVulture
      @GlassVulture Před rokem +10

      @@stardeki no, I just can't spell lmao

    • @firstmkb
      @firstmkb Před rokem +7

      Loved the phrase “feral science” and am going to add that to my hoard of favorites!

    • @T3sl4
      @T3sl4 Před rokem +1

      Shades of Cpt. Kirk vs. the Gorn.

  • @anjalpaudel8713
    @anjalpaudel8713 Před rokem +131

    People come to this channel to think its a chemistry channel, but they couldnt be more wrong! Today i learned of geology of Madagascar, I learned of the wild habitats of australia's snakes, we went on an adventure to the outbacks to mine for the ancient reagent called Carbon, learned a lot about kitchen appliances, learned about pottery and its limits, as well as a life lesson to not frown when things dont go your way all the time. Tom, i think you can single handedly teach all high school subjects, and half of the college majors available from just one video!

    • @margodphd
      @margodphd Před 5 měsíci

      He's like the father we all could've used ❤

  • @ZeroGum
    @ZeroGum Před rokem +16

    When you were microwaving the powder and its just fracturing the pottery, all I could think of was the old youtube series "Is it a good idea to microwave this?" and that time they almost died with the Airbag.

    • @ExtractionsAndIre
      @ExtractionsAndIre  Před rokem +11

      Ah an old classic!

    • @unizero_
      @unizero_ Před rokem

      There's chemicals in airbags that generate the gas needed to inflate them in what's basically a (relatively slow) explosion, and Thoisoi's hand learned this lesson the hard way when he tried to break an airbag apart for a video, gave up on prying it, and went into the charge with an angle grinder.

  • @joshuabuilds3051
    @joshuabuilds3051 Před rokem +172

    I reckon all this backyard chemistry is useful for identifying deadly smells out and about. When theres a deadly refrigerant leak at the grocery store you can be the one that says "Hey I know that smell. We have about 4 minutes."

    • @quint3ssent1a
      @quint3ssent1a Před rokem +15

      Yeah, now i can expertly identify the smell of ammonia in local store and why does it hangs around fridges so much.

    • @petevenuti7355
      @petevenuti7355 Před rokem +3

      I would think smelling the differences between acetone , methyl ethyl ketone, and dioxane would be more useful.

    • @Kenionatus
      @Kenionatus Před rokem +10

      Four minutes to get our, right? Right?

    • @quint3ssent1a
      @quint3ssent1a Před rokem +8

      @@Kenionatus better not linger or you can precisely measure time required for fatal exposure...

    • @mikeoxmall69420
      @mikeoxmall69420 Před rokem +2

      ​@@quint3ssent1a go on, do it. Put elemental iodine in there

  • @hamishmcwhinney2802
    @hamishmcwhinney2802 Před rokem +393

    I don’t understand basically any of the chemistry on this channel, but the way Tom explains it makes me feel like I do

    • @Splode_
      @Splode_ Před rokem +11

      Yeah same. Then I tried watching Nile red and had absolutely no idea what was going on.

    • @GrandDawggy
      @GrandDawggy Před rokem +29

      As I've said before to similar comments:
      Keep watching chemistry content even if you don't fully understand because eventually you will understand it.

    • @daspleen2617
      @daspleen2617 Před rokem +11

      ​@Grand Dawggy this is true. I started off watching Cody's lab years ago religiously (and still do) knowing nothing at all, and now I can watch all these videos with a basic understanding of what's

    • @daspleen2617
      @daspleen2617 Před rokem +3

      Going on* idk why it sent before I was done writing lol

    • @GrandDawggy
      @GrandDawggy Před rokem +3

      @@daspleen2617 👍 definitely similar here I used to love Cody's metal refinement series.

  • @Drjtherrien
    @Drjtherrien Před rokem +39

    As a materials scientist I shed a small tear watching Tom smash up some nice looking crystals. But the processing steps, abuse of a kitchen microwave and brilliant red flame test more than made up for it. Nice work! I'm starting to think of what minerals are near me that you could get something interesting out of. And indeed there is; a nearby town has deposits of scheelite - a source of tungsten. Maybe that'll be a summer project.

    • @MadScientist267
      @MadScientist267 Před 3 měsíci +1

      He's like me... I would have divided the samples as well and kept the one while destroying the other for the tiny amount of desired product as well. The places we find these reagents are as diverse as the reagents themselves, sometimes something that has other value has to eat it for this to happen 🤣
      I did a similar thing, lower "stake" lol... with road flares, overall converting and isolating nitrate to chloride using the sodium carbonate method. Not because strontium chloride is hard to get or any sort of cost concern... Could get 500g of the stuff here for 20 bucks shipped... there's no fun in that... it's the ride we want 🤣
      There's something majestic about testing what you think you know and seeing the final outcome prove it to be valid, right in front of your face.
      It's why I like the channel... whatever happens, happens, and there's always something to use from all of them even if they don't appear to directly apply to something I'm doing.

    • @Drjtherrien
      @Drjtherrien Před 3 měsíci

      @@MadScientist267 100% agree!

    • @potatoman7357
      @potatoman7357 Před 3 měsíci

      I collect mineral specimens. It hurt. It is what it is though.

  • @Nighthawkinlight
    @Nighthawkinlight Před rokem +205

    That's the smallest ball media I've ever seen used in a mill. 3-4x that size would work much better for you.

    • @ExtractionsAndIre
      @ExtractionsAndIre  Před rokem +97

      Thank you! I’ll get bigger media. Surprised you didn’t roast my microwave furnace attempts, I should have learned from you better before trying this!

    • @Nighthawkinlight
      @Nighthawkinlight Před rokem +68

      ​@@ExtractionsAndIre I think old ceramic junk is the best for this kind of thing. The only part I might have done differently is put a firebrick or some other insulator under your crucible so the plates stop shattering. Really clever method in any case. You got me thinking about other reactions that might work in this way

    • @ericscholem6629
      @ericscholem6629 Před 11 měsíci +3

      Why not a graphite crucible? That was what i was thinking the whole time

    • @henryokeeffe5835
      @henryokeeffe5835 Před 10 měsíci +10

      @@ericscholem6629 graphite is conductive. I have a feeling that even in this case that isn't a good idea

    • @republicfryslan
      @republicfryslan Před 4 měsíci

      1010 use ceramic media😂 especialy for bp and shit

  • @npcknuckles5887
    @npcknuckles5887 Před rokem +273

    As a geologist, I do enjoy ore extraction videos.

  • @maxb.5905
    @maxb.5905 Před rokem +386

    Fun Fact, the exact procedure of adding moisture to a mix of powders in a ball mill that you used on accident is used in fireworks to produce the granulated fireworks stars used in fireworks rockets and big fireworks effect charges.

    • @TheFyroPyro
      @TheFyroPyro Před rokem +58

      That is NOT the exact procedure. Milling stars is done in an open rolling container, using non-flammable cores such as mustard seeds onto which the powder is slowly added and misted.
      Trying to make firework stars with the process he shows in the video is a MASSIVE risk of fire and/or explosion, as you would be exposing flammable (albeit wet) powders to many many colliding steel balls. Steel media is never used in conjunction with completed (oxidizer and fuel together) powders.

    • @maxb.5905
      @maxb.5905 Před rokem +22

      @@TheFyroPyro oh yea you're totally right its usually glass or stainless right? I was just trying to refer to the adding moisture to charcoal/black powder part

    • @HH-ru4bj
      @HH-ru4bj Před rokem +50

      ​@@TheFyroPyro that is total BS. The industrial method puts the mixture in glass bottles, then gives those bottles to the oldest worker with Parkinson's there, after his fourth cup of coffee, to walk across rhw factory with.

  • @storminmormin14
    @storminmormin14 Před rokem +5

    The potassium contamination almost certainly came from your free reagent. The word “potassium” literally derived from “pot”+”ash”+”-ium”. Burning wood and then washing the charcoal with water is literally how we got the name for the element.

  • @Langonica
    @Langonica Před rokem +19

    Thanks for these diversions into a process. The Ire channel is tops. Knowing what you are capable of with proper equipment, but limiting yourself to K-Mart.... brilliant. Cheers on your PHD progress.

  • @meosalami5180
    @meosalami5180 Před rokem +387

    As a glass nerd, THANK YOU so much for mentioning strontium carbonate as a raw material for crt screen production. The strontium ions also prevented browning, i.e. the actual decoloration of the glass by the radiation ... 🤓

    • @ExtractionsAndIre
      @ExtractionsAndIre  Před rokem +143

      It’s a cool fact! Such an interesting problem to have, that you emit so much radiation… but you can’t avoid it so you just build the shielding in as part of the class and it’s safe for consumers to sit in front of for hours!

    • @Miata822
      @Miata822 Před rokem +25

      @@ExtractionsAndIre "Safe"

    • @bigiron4018
      @bigiron4018 Před rokem +26

      @@ExtractionsAndIre its wild we were putting a particle accelerator in peoples homes for a long time before LCD was invented

    • @laboratoryofliptakov8157
      @laboratoryofliptakov8157 Před rokem +3

      Tutorial: How to go crazy making a red flame....😎

    • @zinobi
      @zinobi Před rokem +7

      Wait, i remember one old TV that has a really brown-ish image, does that imply that I got a free XRay every time I watched the Saturday morning cartoons?

  • @roriegilligan8134
    @roriegilligan8134 Před rokem +225

    Microwave based processes are an area of recent research in mineral processing. A friend did a PhD on using microwaves for the calcination and acid baking of spodumene (lithium-aluminium silicate). Microwave assisted grinding is a thing too - different minerals heat up differently on microwave irradiation and the different degrees of expansion lead to microfractures at grain boundaries, reducing the amount of energy needed for grinding and improving the degree of separation in downstream beneficiation processes.

    • @keyss78
      @keyss78 Před rokem

      How feasible is using microwaves on a large scale to make populations more susceptible to hypnotic suggestion through digital media? I'm sure if it's possible, they will definitely be doing it... MKUltra now being 70 years old, and no longer a conspiracy theory...

    • @emilyrln
      @emilyrln Před rokem +2

      Whoa, microwave grinding?? That's super interesting!

    • @Metalhammer1993
      @Metalhammer1993 Před rokem +1

      Wow that's super cool (well hot) to read what people are researching with microwaves!

    • @roriegilligan8134
      @roriegilligan8134 Před rokem +2

      @@emilyrln microwave assisted grinding. The ore is hit with a microwave before going into the grinding mill, and the microfractures from the microwave pre-treatment cause it to break apart more easily in the grinding mill.

    • @emilyrln
      @emilyrln Před rokem

      @@roriegilligan8134 Very neat! Thanks for the info :)

  • @birhon
    @birhon Před rokem +5

    I love how you constantly oscillate between being an advanced chemist and acting like you have no idea what you're about to do or how you got here.

  • @opalishmoth8591
    @opalishmoth8591 Před rokem +3

    16:45
    ah yes a chemist’s most trusty tool. A stick

  • @nerd1000ify
    @nerd1000ify Před rokem +151

    One niche use of strontium is as an additive in cast aluminium alloys, adding small amounts improves the grain structure.

    • @ez45
      @ez45 Před rokem +32

      It's also used in fireworks

    • @harms123
      @harms123 Před rokem +41

      @@ez45 Wait. No way. Is it actually?

    • @christopherleubner6633
      @christopherleubner6633 Před rokem +3

      You can add some to lead to moderate the sulfate deposit on the cathode of lead batteries. It works a bit better than calcium for this purpose.

  • @carrionstorm736
    @carrionstorm736 Před rokem +182

    I really enjoyed how we went from cheap cracking ceramic and an old janky microwave to a beautiful fancy glassware setup. It's really cool seeing how you work through these problems

    • @Lizlodude
      @Lizlodude Před rokem +19

      And then he breaks out a fiber spectrometer just to remind us that he uses more than stuff from a fire pit

  • @love_a_hater
    @love_a_hater Před rokem +32

    This was my first video of yours I've watched and i really enjoyed it. I have no history in chemistry and all of this but am starting to learn about it. Thanks for the boost of inspiration !

    • @ExtractionsAndIre
      @ExtractionsAndIre  Před rokem +22

      Glad you liked it mate!

    • @muadddib
      @muadddib Před 8 měsíci +2

      I have no prior interest in chemistry either but I think the algorithm blessed me with this channel due to the ice cream episode (since i watch like 80% cooking content on yt lmao)

    • @MadScientist267
      @MadScientist267 Před 3 měsíci +1

      This is a great channel. The raw OFW seals it 🤣
      I did a run extracting strontium from road flares and completely skipped the filtering of the carbonate and used wash/settle/decant instead as a "lessons learned" from this video. Because strontium is so heavy, although the carbonate is extremely fine, it settles fairly quickly. Just wash it repeatedly. Much less frustration than a filter.
      Not sure what that is in there with it, I hate trying to work with more than one insoluble lol. Strontium carbonate might be one of the whitest whites I've ever seen.

    • @MadScientist267
      @MadScientist267 Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@ExtractionsAndIreYou rock man. Keep em coming.

    • @MadScientist267
      @MadScientist267 Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@muadddibCooking is just edible chemistry 😉

  • @dingus153
    @dingus153 Před rokem +9

    Truly the most hinged chemistry youtuber

  • @MBG_Broker
    @MBG_Broker Před rokem +151

    The level of skill Tom have and yet he decided to make it look like an old meth lab that have decided to go corporate and make useful reagents.
    Such a big fan. Glad to see a video from you again.

  • @tl3459
    @tl3459 Před rokem +58

    I love how when testing the temperature of your 150 degree crucible you went for the hand test before the thermometer to see if it was hot

  • @mhn3773
    @mhn3773 Před 11 měsíci +2

    "What crucible should we use?" Buys a tea set.this guynis awesome.

  • @Bad__Music2262
    @Bad__Music2262 Před rokem +18

    I find it very wholesome that your father incorporated your work and content into his life enough to make a yellow joke. Even if it was a bit of a roast.
    Yellow has become a pretty big part of the community and how we express ourselves in our chemistry exploits (judging by the discord that is) and to see him express similarly feels like he's getting in on the fun too. ~Hi Explosions&Father~

  • @mersilvaureus1525
    @mersilvaureus1525 Před rokem +44

    If my understanding of Australian chemistry is correct, the porcelain would have held together better if you said "she'll be right".

  • @bromisovalum8417
    @bromisovalum8417 Před rokem +177

    The potassium contamination might be because of you using firewood coal. Wood ashes are mostly potassium carbonate. Ideally you should have washed the charcoal with copious amounts of water first. Looks good otherwise, I had hoped to see you make some strontium nitrate though to confirm its typical red flame.

    • @ExtractionsAndIre
      @ExtractionsAndIre  Před rokem +106

      I did wash it, but I suppose it was not copious enough. Hate to think how bad it would have been had I not washed it at all- which I thought about doing!

    • @EoganachtaMor
      @EoganachtaMor Před rokem +6

      I came to the comments to suggest this as well. Potassium salts was known as pot ash and was collected by soaking the ashes from burnt wood. No idea where the sodium came from, though, given how careful he was to avoid it.

    • @garycard1456
      @garycard1456 Před rokem +8

      For demonstrating the richest red Sr flame, I'd opt for either strontium chloride, strontium chlorate or strontium perchlorate. In red pyrotechnic compostions, none of the aforementioned Sr salts are commonly used, as they are hygroscopic or deliquescent. Rather, Sr nitrate or Sr carbonate are commonly used, in combination with a chlorine donor (e.g. PVC powder or chlorinated rubber) to enhance the red. The non-hygroscopic oxidisers potassium perchlorate (or, far less commonly: potassium chlorate) are also used in combination with Sr nitrate or Sr carbonate for red pyro compositions; these oxidising potassium salts also act as chlorine donors.

    • @jacobcasmus1882
      @jacobcasmus1882 Před rokem +6

      ​@@EoganachtaMoralso wood ashes, hard woods produce mainly K and soft woods produce mainly Na. The more you know! Lol

    • @EoganachtaMor
      @EoganachtaMor Před rokem +3

      @@jacobcasmus1882 ah, that might explain the sodium peak. Nice catch.

  • @iguanian
    @iguanian Před rokem +6

    I think the temperature cycling as you checked the progress is what did in your ceramics. If you had been able to just leave it cooking the ceramics might have fared better.
    Always awesome to see your experiments! 🙂

  • @salemi7438
    @salemi7438 Před rokem +2

    I work as a material scientist and we do actually use scandium as an alloying element which helps reduce grain size

  • @rojopantalones9791
    @rojopantalones9791 Před rokem +103

    The switch from a specialized ceramic in the paper to regular porcelain for you at ~ 18:00 reminds me of my basic electronics course in high school.
    A classmate of mine had read about this special ink that had been developed that you could draw on a copper blank, UV treat it, and then put it in the acid bath. Afterwards, the areas you drew on would be left intact.
    The kid that read about it brought it up to the teacher and asked if he could try it out with just regular sharpies and tossing them into the UV kiln in the woodshop just behind us, so we ran a full experiment, including a set of UV treated and untreated boards with the full gamut of sharpie sizes.
    Well, as it would turn out, you didn't need a special ink or even the UV treatment. Just a regular sharpie of any size above ultra fine works, so you can draw whatever you want on there and it's (somehow) protected from the acid bath.

    • @ParadigmUnkn0wn
      @ParadigmUnkn0wn Před rokem +20

      Folks have been doing this for decades. Sharpies make a fine acid-resist for etching PCBs. For more precise boards, toner-transfer works well. Print out a mirrored version of your design on glossy paper with a laser printer, use an iron (or laminator if you're feeling fancy) to heat-transfer the toner to the board, then etch as usual.

  • @That_Chemist
    @That_Chemist Před rokem +24

    you can do some cool microwave cyclization reactions with strontium salts

    • @ExtractionsAndIre
      @ExtractionsAndIre  Před rokem +22

      Well I have microwaves and I have strontium… I’ll look into it mate, thanks!

  • @LorxusIsAFox
    @LorxusIsAFox Před rokem +8

    2 questions:
    - Are you going to try to run the harder stuff that you thought had most of the actual strontium in it through any purification process?
    -Have you considered a sodastream for the carbonation step?
    (Great video btw!)

  • @motleythewild
    @motleythewild Před měsícem

    "We're gonna pause it at two minutes, just to let it.... think about it." i love this method. the insinuation that sometimes the chemistry is a personality and you have to see if it will want to work with you or not

  • @firstmkb
    @firstmkb Před rokem +66

    I’ve seen a lot of comments mentioning Strontium-90 here. I’m old enough to remember having my baby teeth collected for a study on fallout from above-ground nuclear testing. The half-life is 28.8 years, so there probably isn’t much left in my adult teeth.
    I love Tom’s videos because of the combination of good chemistry, solving non-textbook problems (e.g. starting with a mineral instead of refined powder from Sigma-Aldrich), and the variety of comments from other viewers.
    Plus, there is the excitement of always wondering whether the chemistry is going to go Yellow, or all the way to Tar!

    • @davidadams4801
      @davidadams4801 Před rokem +3

      In Australia, a similar survey was conducted - the femurs of around 22,000 babies, children and teenagers were collected to analyse their Sr-90 levels, between 1957 and 1978.
      This was done without the knowledge or consent of the families involved. And the data wasn't even used for Australian science, the bone char was shipped to the UK for analysis by their scientists.
      The nuclear testing here was done by the UK, in areas of Australia that were sparsely inhabited (but not completely uninhabited). And the fallout was carried over most of our major cities.
      (Source: Maralinga: , Frank Walker, 2014)

    • @crf80fdarkdays
      @crf80fdarkdays Před rokem +2

      @@davidadams4801 were they alive still.

    • @your-mom-irl
      @your-mom-irl Před rokem

      @@davidadams4801 thats the cost of being a colony

    • @richardwebb5317
      @richardwebb5317 Před 5 měsíci

      And you get to be nuked too. @@your-mom-irl

  • @StuffandThings_
    @StuffandThings_ Před rokem +77

    Honestly these refining sorts of videos are super underrated. There's so much disconnect between where we get all of our industrial chemicals from as a society or where precious elements really come from. As a mineral collector, smashing up that specimen kind of hurt my soul, it looks like some nice Madagascar stuff, though I'm happy you kept the nicer one! Worth it for the educational content though.

  • @ydlp7705
    @ydlp7705 Před rokem +3

    First step: Making Bismuth tea in an ultrasonic bath
    Second step: Crush nature’s art
    Third step: Painstakingly retrieving the crushed ore from the dirty bucket with a “plastic beaker”

    Anyway thank you for this upload, splendid as always!

  • @randomergy683
    @randomergy683 Před rokem +1

    My favorite channel to listen to while I'm at work or to have on in the background while I make my CZcams videos.
    Always informative, funny, and down-to-earth. Great work man, keep it up. (:

  • @stamasd8500
    @stamasd8500 Před rokem +112

    Actually scandium is not an useless element. Yes it's not very rare but it's very dispersed and doesn't form ores so its extraction is not straightforward. And it is useful in aluminum superalloys (hint: supersonic jet fighters are made of aluminum-scandium alloys). According to wikipedia, the world demand for scandium is about 50% higher than world production, making it quite expensive too.

    • @ExtractionsAndIre
      @ExtractionsAndIre  Před rokem +71

      Ok that’s interesting that demand is higher than supply!

    • @T3sl4
      @T3sl4 Před rokem +8

      Thulium or lutetium are probably the least useful elements, though they may be in low enough abundance to not be the uselessest by that metric. Come to think of it, thallium might be a contender as well, not so much because of usefulness (it has a modest number of known/studied/useful reactions, I think?), but because it's so goddamned toxic no one wants to work with it. (Kinda see also mercury, but it's decidedly on the "fucking awful but just worth the trouble" side of that balance.)
      Despite the applications, scandium might still be a contender; production is in the 100s tonnes/year IIRC. As far as industry's concerned, it might as well not exist at that rate. Definitely something, to be clear, but you only reach for it when you need the absolute, posolute best. (IIRC, its use in aluminum alloys is equivalent to similar elements like titanium, it's just that _tiny_ bit better at it.)

    • @stamasd8500
      @stamasd8500 Před rokem +1

      @@T3sl4 Lutetium is not useless at all, at least for me. In the form of LYSO (lutetium yttrium oxyorthosilicate) crystals, it is a very useful gamma radiation detector. All the PET scanners (positron emission tomography) use them. What is even more interesting is that the LYSO crystals contain their own internal calibration source because 2.5% of natural lutetium is 176-Lu which is radioactive and has two very distinct gamma energy peaks at 202 and 306 keV.

    • @stamasd8500
      @stamasd8500 Před rokem

      @@ExtractionsAndIre Yeah. It's actually more expensive than gold.

    • @T3sl4
      @T3sl4 Před rokem

      @@stamasd8500 Oh yeah, good one!

  • @douglasboyle6544
    @douglasboyle6544 Před rokem +12

    "The balls are not clean" Story of my life.

  • @squishyhippie4059
    @squishyhippie4059 Před rokem +3

    Love the high tech fully scientific sample mixing/stirring apparatus aka "a stick"! Very Australian. Glad to see you're keeping it real :-)

  • @cradleofgoth
    @cradleofgoth Před rokem +1

    NileRed: I bought a nuclear enrichment plant
    Explosions&Fire: let's see if an espresso cup works as a crucible

  • @the-THORNSPAWN
    @the-THORNSPAWN Před rokem +72

    Lanthanum is used in lanthanated tungsten TIG electrodes and sputtering targets so not completely useless.

    • @t_y8274
      @t_y8274 Před rokem +1

      And scandium is used as a steel additive that makes for some really good steel

    • @stamasd8500
      @stamasd8500 Před rokem

      Also a deoxidant for steelmaking, and a grain refiner for ductile cast iron. :)

    • @alexanderharrison7421
      @alexanderharrison7421 Před rokem +8

      Most of the Lanthanum research for TIG is because people started realizing "This Thorium stuff probably isn't good for us, huh..."

    • @guytech7310
      @guytech7310 Před rokem

      @@alexanderharrison7421 OR: "hey, we got this rare earth metal that no one has a use for it. What could we try to use it for?" "Ooow! I know, TIG welding rods!"
      FWIW: I do TIG welding & have Lanthanum doped TIG rods.

  • @T3sl4
    @T3sl4 Před rokem +42

    A tip for heating stuff -- if you don't have [or can't be arsed to go out and buy] fire bricks (the styrofoam-like insulating kind) or ceramic wool (not the glass/rock wool kind that melts at red heat), try a large microwave-safe container filled with clean white sand, and embed the crucible in that. Stoneware is better than porcelain for the crucible but it's probably going to crack all the same, so having sand fill to back up up will keep it together, while insulating it better than open air. Better than sand, consider perlite or vermiculite (gardening aisle). May want to crush them up a bit or pack tightly since they tend to be fairly coarse and loose.
    You definitely need to get it hot; alkaline earth sulfides are quite refractory. 1000C is yellow hot -- if it were that hot on the top it would illuminate the microwave interior! It would also take more power than the microwave can supply, so it needs to be well insulated.
    The powdered charge is rather self-insulating already, and it seems you did indeed get some reduction in the center! That probably accounts for most of the low yield. Upside: just keep cooking the filtered junk, all the carbon and sulfate is still in there! Maybe top up the carbon from time to time.
    Speaking of fire, can cook out the yellow from the product by roasting it at red heat, probably -- maybe put it on a steel sheet or can next time you have a bonfire or something. (Char the sheet before use, get a nice crisp oxide layer on it, don't want paint residue gooping it up!)

    • @kyrab7914
      @kyrab7914 Před 6 měsíci

      Worth mentioning perlite at least might have other additives so check ingredients. I'm sure a chemist would, but just fyi for anybody out there

  • @emulsion_
    @emulsion_ Před rokem +7

    Also I was wracking my brain to figure out where I knew strontium because it wasn't fireworks for me. Then the filtered strontium carbonate started drying and I realized: STRONTIUM ALUMINATE is the best of the glow in the dark paint types.

    • @soundspark
      @soundspark Před rokem +4

      It's the reason glow in the dark 3D printing filament eats brass 3D printer nozzles.

    • @JetJockey87
      @JetJockey87 Před 8 měsíci +2

      Yes but then you also need Europium and Dysprosium to create pits for the higher order valence electrons to be trapped within when excited, otherwise their orbits decay too Quickly

  • @RREvilMonk
    @RREvilMonk Před rokem +1

    I have always admired the excellent BGM choices on this channel.
    Even when done in jokes, I appreciate the original efforts!

  • @spiderdude2099
    @spiderdude2099 Před rokem +10

    “I might get bitten by a snake, but yknow…that’s just something you deal with every day of your life”
    Everyone living outside of Australia: “No Tom…..no it really isn’t…”

    • @hydr0nium_
      @hydr0nium_ Před rokem +1

      Searched for that comment xD

    • @zarathean8758
      @zarathean8758 Před rokem +1

      southern usa would like to talk to you 😂

    • @deadlined825
      @deadlined825 Před 11 měsíci +1

      Where I live there is like NO threat from snakes so I was really confused before I remembered right… Australia.

  • @hammerth1421
    @hammerth1421 Před rokem +20

    The emission spectrum of strontium is really pretty. It's three lines, one red, one orange, one yellow.

  • @deadlined825
    @deadlined825 Před 11 měsíci +2

    I’m so happy I found this second channel, I was about to run out of Explosions & Fire videos and then I see there’s ALL THESE here and they’re even more in depth??? It’s like Christmas up in here

  • @michaelrose5490
    @michaelrose5490 Před rokem +1

    Honestly I don't know anything about chemistry or most of what is going on in your videos, but the reactions and commentary during the recording is so comical that it is fairly addictive. Thanks for being awesome and keep doing whatever voodoo it is that you are doing :)

  • @matiastripaldi406
    @matiastripaldi406 Před rokem +41

    I believe Sr90 is used as a contrast compound in CT scans and other radioactive imaging techniques. Thanks for another video Tom my ADHD was in need of some sketchy science

    • @zyeborm
      @zyeborm Před rokem +5

      The science isn't sketchy, just the scientist lol 😂

    • @longbow3082
      @longbow3082 Před rokem +5

      ​@@zyebormthe science that a sketchy scientist does is sketchy by association lol

    • @joshuaporter1905
      @joshuaporter1905 Před rokem +2

      Sr90 is also one of the primary fallout isotopes in low-yield nuclear weapons (I believe the ones that use plutonium... Could be wrong?)

    • @kahlzun
      @kahlzun Před rokem

      i was wondering why i thought of 90 as soon as Strontium was mentioned. I spend too much time researching radioactive stuff

    • @mikeoxmall69420
      @mikeoxmall69420 Před rokem

      WON'T YOU CRAWL OUT THROUGH THE FALLOUT BACK TO MEEEEEE

  • @harrybaxter9110
    @harrybaxter9110 Před rokem +8

    "everyone says strontium is used for fireworks for some reason"
    "my end goal for this project is to burn it to produce a colour i like"

  • @dansamarco1610
    @dansamarco1610 Před 2 měsíci

    I love hearing these old Aphex tracks from the huge track dump again, and you've made good use of them. I remember what is now like 7 or some years ago when they were first released, blasting these tracks on repeat out of my brand new studio speakers at my parents house lol

  • @davecSFD
    @davecSFD Před rokem +2

    So great to see you back. Love your videos. I know CZcams is tough and I wish it wasn't that way. Finding your videos has definitely reinvigorated my love of chemistry and taught me a lot. I'm on a HazMat team and I actually have used information from your videos in the field. If only I had paid more attention in Orgo 2 in college...

  • @stick-Iink
    @stick-Iink Před rokem +11

    This is probably the best home chemistry channel. Usually others have reagents like t-butyllithium that are almost impossible for an amateur to acquire

    • @mikeoxmall69420
      @mikeoxmall69420 Před rokem +1

      Ah yes, the flammenwerfer meets markiplier jumpscare

  • @bromisovalum8417
    @bromisovalum8417 Před rokem +76

    You might have better results using unglazed porcelain (ie. terracotta flowerpot). The ceramic glazing will absorb a lot of microwaves, that you really want the carbon to absorb.

    • @p.f.3014
      @p.f.3014 Před rokem +10

      Terracotta contains iron

    • @CeramicSerpent
      @CeramicSerpent Před rokem +2

      An unglazed porcelain crucible would be the best bet due to having an absurdly high melting point and being relatively hardened against most thermal shocks.

  • @Hunne2303
    @Hunne2303 Před rokem +1

    "Look at that subtle off-white coloring. The tasteful thickness of it." 😂

  • @Asdayasman
    @Asdayasman Před rokem +1

    > You're thinking "strontium, ah that's used in fireworks"
    Actually I was thinking back to the days of going into siege mode in my Naglfar.

  • @thehyperscientist1961
    @thehyperscientist1961 Před rokem +41

    21:39
    I've done stuff like this quite a bit before, trying to get barium carbonate. So I suggest putting an MDF board, or a silicone mat if you can. Their pretty common in the kitchen for baking, so I trust you'll be able to find them. If you use the MDF board, it'll get carbonised at the high temperatures, but your glass microwave base will survive.
    And for the crucible, if you want, aluminium oxide crucibles are pretty cheap online (and come with a lid most of the time). The ceramic doesn't survive because sometimes there's still a tiny bit of water left in there that boils in the heat. I'm amazed the coffee mug manage to survive so much

    • @noodlelynoodle.
      @noodlelynoodle. Před rokem

      I'm surprised there could manage to be any water left in the ceramic considering they get baked at like 1162-1240 Celsius for hours for the initial firing and up to almost 1400 for the glazes

    • @thehyperscientist1961
      @thehyperscientist1961 Před rokem

      @@noodlelynoodle. True. Either that, or the expansion from the heat was too much for it to handle

    • @noodlelynoodle.
      @noodlelynoodle. Před rokem

      @@thehyperscientist1961 yeah who really knows it could be from taking them out/opening actually which let's them cool faster than is safe for the material and slowly stresses it till it cracks if it's anything like glass

  • @morganmade1845
    @morganmade1845 Před rokem +14

    Tom, I've learnt way more from your channel than all of the 4 years of high school science I did in the 90s. I have no interest in chemistry whatsoever and yet for some reason I've watched all of your videos.

  • @RamsesYT
    @RamsesYT Před rokem +4

    Tom, you made us wait until 11:28 for some cool music! I thought you'd grown out of it or something silly like that. Awesome to see you're back with E&I!👍

  • @RyanStonedonCanadianGaming

    I had to Google is Strontium a metal?
    A soft, silvery metal that burns in air and reacts with water.
    Metal + Microwave = Marvelous Idea.

  • @empressassassin9975
    @empressassassin9975 Před rokem +11

    Geology student and general mineral enthusiast here, good choice not to use that other sample, it is indeed quite a nice specimen!
    Also, FYI: if you ever need to crush rocks in the future (like you did with the hammer), wrap it in some cloth or a towel- that'll prevent the shards from going absolutely everywhere. I'd still recommend a face shield just in case, though.

    • @TheHammy2211
      @TheHammy2211 Před rokem +1

      Glad to see another enthusiast breathing a sigh of relief there lol

  • @singular9
    @singular9 Před rokem +19

    I am just entertained by this mans passion. At this point I no longer think too hard about what he is doing like I used to...

  • @war_kittens
    @war_kittens Před rokem

    This is so fantastic. It's so much fun to watch you do this stuff.

  • @PotooBurd
    @PotooBurd Před 13 dny

    I enjoy this so much! Amazing content, best wishes to you and your future projects! 🌻

  • @hyoenmadan
    @hyoenmadan Před rokem +6

    1:00 Strontium in automotive industry is added in traces to Aluminum as defects marker, to help in Xray defect inspection stage. As other user here said, it also improves the alloy a bit.

  • @michaelseitz8938
    @michaelseitz8938 Před rokem +22

    OMG, a new chemistry video! 20 seconds in, and I am already asking myself how long it will take to turn yellow 😁
    Edit: 26 minutes! And only a little bit yellow! Nice 😊

  • @Boltman47
    @Boltman47 Před rokem

    Watching this channel has made the other channel's videos much more nerve racking. I appreciate your content, all

  • @Nobe_Oddy
    @Nobe_Oddy Před rokem

    That was AWESOME!!!!! I LOVE the longer videos just because it gives you a little tatse of how much effort goes into making your videos...plus you make more jokes :)

  • @jayyydizzzle
    @jayyydizzzle Před rokem +9

    I know that there are induction crucibles specifically made for home microwaves. They are usually advertised for making glass beads at home. Seems like they get over 1000°c without much trouble, or enough to melt sand. I've been meaning to pick one up from the usual sources.

  • @trevorday7923
    @trevorday7923 Před rokem +9

    Strontium aluminate is used in glow-in-the-dark 3D printer filament :)

  • @jam9297
    @jam9297 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Props for listening to aphex twin

  • @justinbanks2380
    @justinbanks2380 Před rokem +1

    " 'Microwave safe', we'll be testing that to the limit"
    😂

  • @j_sum1
    @j_sum1 Před rokem +17

    Woohoo. I am going to love this one!
    Pity I have to work right now. Tack it on to the watch list.
    Thanks Tom - you are an inspiration.

    • @ExtractionsAndIre
      @ExtractionsAndIre  Před rokem +15

      Thanks as always mate! Hope you are doing well!!

    • @ExtractionsAndIre
      @ExtractionsAndIre  Před rokem +24

      A post card of yours is still definitely in the lab btw, I don’t think the camera ever sees it and it’s pretty dusty these days but it’s there haha

  • @reidster87
    @reidster87 Před rokem +5

    I'm really impressed how long the microwave's glass turntable held on before cracking. The pretty red flame was quite gratifying to see at the end.

  • @ChemEDan
    @ChemEDan Před 11 měsíci +2

    X&F: **very Aussie** ball mill
    Closed Captions: bowl meal

    • @InservioLetum
      @InservioLetum Před 11 měsíci +2

      Ya know wot a bison is royt? The thing ya wosh ya hends an fice in!

    • @ChemEDan
      @ChemEDan Před 10 měsíci

      @@InservioLetum LMAO

  • @lovey0184
    @lovey0184 Před rokem

    7:26 Little things like this are why I love your editing

  • @omnirath
    @omnirath Před rokem +6

    The primitive technology channel of a dystopian future, great project !

    • @firstmkb
      @firstmkb Před rokem

      I’m not sure it’s dystopian if you have time to cobble together random material to make things, and have a spectrometer handy to confirm your results.
      I’ve never seen Tom pay taxes either, so evidence is accumulating that he is an early adopter of a utopian future!

    • @GS-el8ll
      @GS-el8ll Před rokem

      hey now australian isnt that bad, haha

  • @kingjack107
    @kingjack107 Před rokem +2

    Love how the camera quality has moved to 4k but the equiptment is still the same its brilliant. Now we can see all your mistakes in 4k

  • @EuricusChryseus
    @EuricusChryseus Před rokem

    Great video. I always look forward to your posts.

  • @nicholasgromak7627
    @nicholasgromak7627 Před rokem +1

    Thanks for sharing. I've been researching Strontium Carbonate as it is one of the materials used to coat the cathodes of the old thermionic valves (vacuum tubes here in Canada) which reduces the work function of the underlying metal. It seems to be commonly found as a pottery glaze. Quite cheap as well since it goes for 10 Canadian pesos per kilo, and the datasheet states > 95% purity.

  • @yeetyeet7070
    @yeetyeet7070 Před rokem +21

    You know, if you're ever out of milk but need calcium -> strontium-90 is an ideal replacement (your body thinks so already)

    • @dhxmg
      @dhxmg Před rokem +7

      I would disagree, but if my body is okay with it I suppose there's no harm.

    • @ExtractionsAndIre
      @ExtractionsAndIre  Před rokem +36

      I trust in my biology. It wouldn’t have evolved to do things that cause itself harm, that’s obvious

    • @eddieelizabethhitler3259
      @eddieelizabethhitler3259 Před rokem +5

      ​@@ExtractionsAndIre I wouldn't go so far as "trust" since I recently suffered a cytokine storm which tried to dissolve my vital organs!!!

    • @nerd1000ify
      @nerd1000ify Před rokem +8

      One alkali earth cation is just the same as any other right?
      Well your calcium transporters think so apparently. Silly billies.

    • @frizzlefry1921
      @frizzlefry1921 Před rokem +1

      Oof.

  • @RALL123456
    @RALL123456 Před rokem +5

    Some aphex twin and (slightly) yellow chem in the australian sun makes me kinda nostalgic. Great to see you back making videos, thankful as always.

  • @OriginalParadigm357
    @OriginalParadigm357 Před rokem

    I learned about spectrometers and each element having its own signature, allowing us to determine a planets atmosphere (like if it has oxygen, carbon etc.) based on the missing corresponding lines on the spectrometer that graphs the light coming to us from a star behind the planet being observed.
    To be a lil more advanced with it, based on the shift of light (red or blue shifted) allows us to determine whether the planet we are observing is moving towards us or away from us, and how fast too! Kind of like music from a car being distorted based on how fast the car is moving away or towards you (doppler effect) instead try to think light as opposed to sound. But its in astronomical units. Literally.
    Very interesting to see this applied to observing the spectrum the flame produces while burning the element you extracted and are identifying.
    love your content.

  • @jorgschrauwen
    @jorgschrauwen Před rokem

    loved the video mate, never get bored of this stuff

  • @c0rr4nh0rn
    @c0rr4nh0rn Před rokem +9

    I am so very delighted to see more extractions and ire, thanks for the stront update.

  • @isenhertor
    @isenhertor Před rokem +8

    you put your hotplate over the gas burner you can reach 900. all you need to do then is stack another hotplate and lower the heat on it to 150c.

    • @isenhertor
      @isenhertor Před rokem +4

      this joke sounded waaay funnier in my head i swear

    • @-Jethro-
      @-Jethro- Před rokem +1

      It’s hotplates all the way down…

    • @mikeoxmall69420
      @mikeoxmall69420 Před rokem +2

      Infinite heat duplication glitch

  • @Ontariosaurus
    @Ontariosaurus Před rokem +1

    Bloody beautiful. Love the PhD energy you bring, as a PhD it is so much fun to watch.

  • @bigjay875
    @bigjay875 Před rokem

    Good to see ya back on the channel

  • @lemmonsinmyeyes
    @lemmonsinmyeyes Před rokem +16

    I read a paper from a university in India that was using microwaves to 'heal' the inclusions in rubies. Basically it would melt the ruby and allow the interior cracks to melt back together. So using a microwave to get superheated plasma, yeah makes sense

  • @oksy619
    @oksy619 Před rokem +4

    You must be at peak PhD procrastination... two videos in a week xD

  • @dark14life
    @dark14life Před rokem +1

    4:52 I never thought I'd see "Smash or Pass" Extractions & Ire Edition. But, here we are.

  • @bazooka93
    @bazooka93 Před rokem +1

    I miss the times when I did microwave extractions. You pour in a sample, some HF and other chemicals, shake, bake, neutralise and a crystal clear liquid is ready to run on your ICP.