Illegal Chemical from a Vintage 1960s Extinguisher

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  • čas přidán 21. 09. 2019
  • Carbon tetrachloride became very rare from being phased out internationally after 1989, but some relics of the past still contain this once-widely used chemical. Its toxicity didn't help its popularity after the 60s/70s, so its been practically 100% replaced by alternatives. In some countries carbon tet isn't that rare still! But in a country like Aus, where you basically can't import it, and we do not manufacture it here, over the last 3 decades its been completely phased out. Twitter: / explosions_fire
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  • @Samonie67
    @Samonie67 Před 4 lety +3947

    Tom be like: ah yes, today i will extract enslaved liver failure

    • @alexredacted2123
      @alexredacted2123 Před 4 lety +310

      solvonts

    • @alke5668
      @alke5668 Před 4 lety +8

      Lmao

    • @alke5668
      @alke5668 Před 4 lety +15

      Ah yes, these comments are gold

    • @adamlifevictor5772
      @adamlifevictor5772 Před 3 lety +9

      Solvent go brrrr

    • @jimmymulherin4505
      @jimmymulherin4505 Před 2 lety +10

      Maybe the danger is more in using these chemicals occupationally. My dad had a Winchester of this. Me and my friends (stupidly and irresponsibly) would take a smaller bottle out and sniff it to high. Did it on and off for years.

  • @Volvith
    @Volvith Před 4 lety +3286

    >Potent Hepatotoxin
    >Canister appears empty.
    *_>SNIFFS_*

    • @cezarcatalin1406
      @cezarcatalin1406 Před 4 lety +506

      Liver: Mr.Tom, I don't feel so good...

    • @bryanmartinez6600
      @bryanmartinez6600 Před 4 lety +30

      Me
      *SNORTS*

    • @terricampbell3179
      @terricampbell3179 Před 4 lety +20

      @@bryanmartinez6600 your name + the comment = laughs

    • @transkryption
      @transkryption Před 4 lety +3

      @@cezarcatalin1406 yeah it'll do that

    • @Exascale
      @Exascale Před 4 lety +80

      Its really not as insanely toxic as the reports will tell you. Its only bad if you have alcohol in your system at the same time. Its not like smelling it one time is gonna destroy your liver. Also, this stuff is super easy to produce in large amounts from methylene chloride and a chlorine generator. Dry chlorine gas is absorbed into DCM with a dispersion tube with a UV black light source over the path. The product is chlorinated in excess until no more chlorine is absorbed and the yellow color remains. Then the final mixture is neutralized with sodium bicarbonate and distilled over. You can make a generator rather inexpensively that will yield many kilos of this stuff with ease.

  • @yourayneeum6964
    @yourayneeum6964 Před 4 lety +1026

    Cracking open a chlorinated one

    • @ZA-mb5di
      @ZA-mb5di Před 4 lety +78

      Cracking open my liver with the feds

    • @technoman9000
      @technoman9000 Před 2 lety +1

      High five!

    • @benruniko
      @benruniko Před 2 lety +3

      This is a criminally underrated comment

    • @DisDatK9
      @DisDatK9 Před 2 lety

      Blowin up the lads

    • @P-nk-m-na
      @P-nk-m-na Před 2 lety +13

      crackin open a hole in the ozone layer

  • @andrewfoy.
    @andrewfoy. Před 4 lety +237

    AussieRed

  • @2soldierman2
    @2soldierman2 Před 4 lety +1330

    So I'm not the only nut that wanders through antique shops with a Geiger.

    • @breakdance4cash228
      @breakdance4cash228 Před 4 lety +460

      I been taking my Geiger with me to the strip club, just to be sure these hos ain't stripping any electrons you know what im saying mang

    • @fyredoesidiotgames8451
      @fyredoesidiotgames8451 Před 4 lety +4

      i ended up getting mine in a antique store.

    • @josephastier7421
      @josephastier7421 Před 4 lety +21

      The first guys that did that (especially in NM) hit gold. Later prospectors found the shelves picked clean. It's a good idea, half a century too late.

    • @tylerlowder2338
      @tylerlowder2338 Před 4 lety

      Why would you take a Geiger to a antique store?

    • @josephastier7421
      @josephastier7421 Před 4 lety +24

      @@tylerlowder2338 Not an antique store, a junk store. Sometimes radioactive sources would get sold by mistake, and you could buy nice ones secondhand that way.

  • @CorrosiveFox
    @CorrosiveFox Před 4 lety +550

    I'm surprised your girlfriend was okay with you taking that fire extinguisher out on a date.

    • @eeooooee2234
      @eeooooee2234 Před 4 lety +94

      CorrosiveFox they get on so well, they have real....chemistry.
      Sorry

    • @mauz791
      @mauz791 Před 4 lety +2

      @@eeooooee2234 No

    • @eeooooee2234
      @eeooooee2234 Před 4 lety +9

      Mauz I said sorry

    • @somedatussr4323
      @somedatussr4323 Před 3 lety +1

      That flame is open.

    • @UwOtt
      @UwOtt Před 3 lety +3

      He fucked around with it on the first date

  • @haska9706
    @haska9706 Před 4 lety +348

    No liquid comes out: puts nose right up to the cylinder and sniffs

    • @Bladelols27
      @Bladelols27 Před 4 lety +30

      hes aussie, its our natural reaction.

    • @Vistico93
      @Vistico93 Před 4 lety +11

      He's the Wile E. Coyote of chemists

  • @Volvith
    @Volvith Před 4 lety +509

    Walking through an antiques store with a geiger counter.
    ... The only thing seperating a nut from a genius is proper equipment. ;)

    • @captainjirk9564
      @captainjirk9564 Před 4 lety +17

      I had a history teacher who had a geiger counter that came out of Chernobyl. It wasn't radioactive, so they cleared it out when her husband came back from a team who was investigating the Zone.
      The cable was cut so it didn't work, and the original batteries were still inside. We thought to try soldering it back together but I'm pretty sure they intentionally cut the line so it wouldn't function again.

    • @ieuanhunt552
      @ieuanhunt552 Před 2 lety +5

      Just like in the immortal words of Adam Savage.
      Remember kids the only difference between science and screwing around is writing it down.

  • @Gameboygenius
    @Gameboygenius Před 4 lety +634

    Extraction: ✅
    Ire: ✅
    This channel delivers on its promise!

  • @fizzyplazmuh9024
    @fizzyplazmuh9024 Před 2 lety +603

    Lunacy! My father always had multiple jugs of carbon tet on the shelf in the garage. He was an electrical technician at a refinery and they used to use it liberally for cleaning boards and components. As kids we would just grab it up to clean anything and everything. We played with his gallon glass jug of mercury as well. Luckily we never dropped and shattered that thing.
    My doctor still always asks me if I have had Hepatitis. Apparently my childhood shows up on my liver stats very well.

    • @RiffRaffMama.
      @RiffRaffMama. Před rokem +8

      Why did he have a gallon of mercury??

    • @johnpublic6582
      @johnpublic6582 Před rokem +17

      @@RiffRaffMama. Every time a thermometer breaks you collect up the spill and save it.

    • @RiffRaffMama.
      @RiffRaffMama. Před rokem +12

      @@johnpublic6582 Hmmm... there's approximately 0.5mL of mercury in the average thermometer.
      1 gallon is equivalent to 3.785L.
      Given this, it would take approximately 7,570 thermometers to produce 1 gallon of mercury.
      At a cost of around $3.64 per thermometer, that's a total of around AUD$27,555.
      I mean, if you have the time, patience and mail box capacity, it's do-able, but it seems like an incredibly inefficient way of obtaining bulk mercury to me.
      That said, it's illegal in Australia to purchase bulk mercury, so unless you want to roll the dice on ordering it from somewhere like India, it's probably your only option.

    • @RiffRaffMama.
      @RiffRaffMama. Před rokem +3

      @@johnpublic6582 Also, just wondering, when you say "gallon glass JUG", do you mean jug as in an OPEN glass vessel, or did you mean something like "jar" instead?
      You've just reminded me too of something that happened when I was about 7. My mum dropped a glass mercury thermometer on the slate bathroom floor one day, shattering it. Not knowing anything about mercury, she was intrigued by the way it beaded and rolled around the crevices you get in natural slate. At the time she had really long fingernails, so she scooped the mercury up in one of her spoon-like fingernails and came and showed me. I've wondered many times over the years what that 10 minutes of holding mercury against her bare skin might have done.

    • @kbee225
      @kbee225 Před rokem

      ​@@RiffRaffMama. not much. Mercury is not that easily absorbed in its metallic form. Which is why Mercury salts and complexes are more toxic than pure mercury. You can watch Cody's lab's video of him swishing mercury in his mouth.

  • @The2x4
    @The2x4 Před 2 lety +162

    We found a jug labeled carbon-tetra-chloride in an old basement.
    My grandma, a nuclear chemist who worked on the first reactor to power a city, said they used to use it to wash their hands back in the day.

    • @hx5525
      @hx5525 Před rokem +1

      No cancer or liver problems?

    • @ratm0
      @ratm0 Před rokem +26

      ​@H X yeah, no liver at all unfortunately, but on the bright side, no cancer problems either

    • @NikhillRao27
      @NikhillRao27 Před 3 měsíci

      @@hx5525 I'd imagine a nuclear chemist from the 50s or whatever would have bigger problems than a little CCl4

  • @TheBlackjack87nz
    @TheBlackjack87nz Před 4 lety +391

    When I was working as a haematologist we would frequently use carbon tet for extracting haemogolbin from lysed red blood cells. We would get this nasty shit in bulk Winchester bottles (roughly 4.75L). Never realised how hard it was to come by as I would occasionally use it to remove stubborn stains from my clothes if I couldn't get them out with DCM.

  • @sugarbooty
    @sugarbooty Před 4 lety +1172

    Showing you obtaining a banned solvent AND your face in the same video? Ballsy move, I hope big brother doesn't raid you

    • @piranha031091
      @piranha031091 Před 4 lety +78

      Considering the other stuff he's done...

    • @MortRotu
      @MortRotu Před 4 lety +187

      Preexisting samples of it should be fine, all he's done is move it from one container to another.

    • @whorcares123
      @whorcares123 Před 4 lety +150

      Banned for import and export. Very finicky laws, but he should be fine as long as it came from in country(which I doubt he went to another country to find an antique store that had it) and doesn't sell it.

    • @MortRotu
      @MortRotu Před 4 lety +62

      @@whorcares123 tbh the most dangerous thing he's done is transporting an antique extinguisher in a car from the shop to his house/lab sooooo

    • @gordonlawrence4749
      @gordonlawrence4749 Před 4 lety +36

      It's only illegal to sell it's not illegal to posses as long as it's not made later than something like 1987 ish.

  • @kdrgaming3344
    @kdrgaming3344 Před 4 lety +674

    You should make some more liquid Ozone and show us how the Carbon Tet works as an Ozone depleting agent... if possible. Really I just want you to see you make liquid Ozone again haha.

    • @PorkpieJohnny
      @PorkpieJohnny Před 4 lety +101

      Make an artificial ozone layer and deplete it with the carbon tet

    • @SuperAngelofglory
      @SuperAngelofglory Před 4 lety +23

      funny enough, Wikipedia lists CCl4 as a solvent for O3

    • @rey_nemaattori
      @rey_nemaattori Před 4 lety +32

      @@SuperAngelofglory Problem with the ozone layer is not that it dissolves O3, but that UV radiation breaks of chloride ions which then react with O3 to form O2 and ClO (eventually Cl2O2).

    • @elephystry
      @elephystry Před 4 lety +6

      PoorMans Chemist ok then let’s get a uv lamp

    • @sadmermaid
      @sadmermaid Před 4 lety +8

      @@elephystry or...go outside?

  • @timrb
    @timrb Před 4 lety +86

    This channel should be called "This is what happens when you try this at home"

  • @alexwaln1053
    @alexwaln1053 Před 4 lety +48

    So apparently when CCl4 is heated, it decomposes/burns to form phosgene. Yes, make a tool that forms phosgene when used. Helth

  • @davidbarts6144
    @davidbarts6144 Před 4 lety +160

    That sure sounds just like carbon tet. It is a dense liquid, with a very distinctive odor that is hard to describe, "musty-solventy" is the best I can do. I'm old enough that I can remember it being sold as a spot remover and also using it as a reagent in chem lab. I have no doubt that's exactly what it is, based on its observed boiling point and the stated contents of the extinguisher.
    For those hyperventilating about it being "illegal," such bans typically forbid NEW MANUFACTURE of such items. The old antique he found was legally manufactured in the pre-ban era. It's just like a clock with a radium dial, a legal but hazardous antique item.

    • @christopherleubner6633
      @christopherleubner6633 Před 2 lety +3

      The smell is the same smell that ink pens had. Rather weak chemical odor. Lacks the sweet smell that chloroform has 🤓

    • @InTrancedState
      @InTrancedState Před 11 měsíci

      God no wonder the baby boomers are such a shit lot. Everything in there world was actively trying to kill them

  • @cpoteet8008
    @cpoteet8008 Před 4 lety +135

    "turn it to the left"
    *Attempts to turn it left*
    *Doesnt work*
    *Immediately turns it to the right with ease*

    • @mortigus2878
      @mortigus2878 Před 4 lety +5

      i saw that too lol

    • @aucontraire4717
      @aucontraire4717 Před 4 lety +34

      Its bc hes in australia, its all upside down

    • @joeteejoetee
      @joeteejoetee Před 2 lety +1

      People shoot videos with the selfie camera and it swaps Left to Right ALL DAY LONG on social media!!!😀😀😀

  • @TwinTn
    @TwinTn Před 4 lety +458

    well at least Australia does not have much of an ozone layer to deplete.

    • @Robnoxious77
      @Robnoxious77 Před 4 lety +18

      pretty sure that hole closed up on it’s own, which changed the “global warming” debate into the “climate change” debate.

    • @TwinTn
      @TwinTn Před 4 lety +98

      @@Robnoxious77 no

    • @godfreypoon5148
      @godfreypoon5148 Před 4 lety +11

      @@TwinTn Pull your nose out of the air and grace him with a proper response.

    • @picsi-software
      @picsi-software Před 4 lety +23

      @@godfreypoon5148 but then we\d get banned. :)... @robnoxious77 nope the hole is still there, give it a couple of hundred years without damage and it might reform..

    • @TwinTn
      @TwinTn Před 4 lety +13

      @Silently Sceptical no staph

  • @Someone-cr8cj
    @Someone-cr8cj Před 4 lety +322

    my conclusion is that if you were supposed to use this fire extinguisher when your house is on fire you're out of luck.

    • @UnicaLuce
      @UnicaLuce Před 3 lety +19

      And if it did work, which i doubt, you'd still die cause it's poisonus and cancerous at the same time! liver failure and dna damage! all in one deadly package.

    • @hvfd5956
      @hvfd5956 Před 2 lety +18

      Which is why they are not still hanging on the wall in the stairwell of your favorite department store. Many fire fighters died after using one. For the rest of you who haven't studied the old days of early fire departments, Carbon Tetra-chloride when dispensed onto a heated surface in the presence of Oxygen generates Phosgene gas which is poisonous and can when mixed with peroxides...explode. So if the gas doesn't kill you, the explosion will! In my sixties now, but I vividly remember one hanging on the wall in the exit stairway of the J. C. Penny's store my mother shopped at. Both mom and the extinguisher are gone, but the store was still there last time I looked.

    • @fooferutter3001
      @fooferutter3001 Před 2 lety +5

      "and can when mixed with peroxides...explode. "
      Shocker.

    • @pascale8964
      @pascale8964 Před rokem

      @@fooferutter3001 Yeah, was gonna say. "Explodes when mixed with peroxides" doesn't really narrow it down much does it XD

    • @Aochso
      @Aochso Před rokem

      @@hvfd5956 why the f**k did they even thought of using it, when it literally explodes when used in a fire

  • @jagmarc
    @jagmarc Před rokem +14

    In the 60s as a kid I was around litres of carbon tet, mostly from fire extinguishers great for cleaning motorcycle brakes. So often I got in on my skin which strips off all the oils and gives you a two-day-long headache. In the 70s you could buy carbon tet in 400g aerosol cans. Jeez, one of us used an entire can to clean his trainer shoes.

  • @elnombre91
    @elnombre91 Před 4 lety +383

    Carbon tet is a nightmare to get hold of, but people still publish papers using it as a solvent. Bastards.
    Main reactions I can think of that use it would be 1) The Appel reaction or 2) RuO4 oxidation.

    • @ExtractionsAndIre
      @ExtractionsAndIre  Před 4 lety +244

      I have seen that occassionally, it really is a deliberate dick move

    • @ThatChemistOld
      @ThatChemistOld Před 4 lety +54

      @@ExtractionsAndIre Just check out the fairly recent ones that still use Freon-11 instead of DCM; some even as recent as 2011!

    • @sweetbunny9213
      @sweetbunny9213 Před 4 lety +49

      In Germany its a lot easier to get, at least for institutes doing organic chemistry. I was for example doing chlorination reactions of dicarboxylic acids of calixarenes at (more or less) high tempratures

    • @OmikronPsy
      @OmikronPsy Před 4 lety +78

      @@ExtractionsAndIre We have it in the lab as well, as SweetBunny92 said, in Germany it seems easier to get hold of. Although of course it is still a precious material. It is not only used in organic chemistry, but also in cancer research to very reliably induce liver cancer in mice.

    • @elnombre91
      @elnombre91 Před 4 lety +22

      @@ExtractionsAndIre Even people like Phil Baran aren't immune to it. We can get small (100 ml) bottles of it from Sigma, but it's expensive and you need to fill in a lot of paperwork to justify the purchase.

  • @LavenderSystem69
    @LavenderSystem69 Před 4 lety +30

    That tutorial video you edited in, though...
    >"Turn the handle to the left"
    >*Proceeds to turn handle to the right*

    • @chadblechinger5746
      @chadblechinger5746 Před 4 lety +12

      I figured that left meant something different down there idk maybe the coriolis effect?

    • @-NGC-6302-
      @-NGC-6302- Před 3 lety +1

      Coraustralis effect

  • @whatevernamegoeshere3644
    @whatevernamegoeshere3644 Před 4 lety +45

    considering you spent 2 years looking for one, you had a really good self control against grabbing the drill

  • @deanb500
    @deanb500 Před 4 lety +40

    Counting the times that you pointed the business end into your face while you weren't sure how it worked :')

  • @markosullivan6444
    @markosullivan6444 Před 4 lety +96

    This video really takes me back. I worked as a chemist on a carbon tetrachloride plant in Runcorn (UK) in 1988 (just before it got phased out). As you say carbon tetrachloride is toxic, but some of the by-products of its manufacture were FAR worse (hexachlorobutadiene with an exposure limit of 0.02 parts per million for example). The plant made a bit more than your 75 grams, over 20,000 tonnes per annum, I believe!

    • @jagmarc
      @jagmarc Před rokem +6

      I had an entire box of 400g cans which came from Runcorn. A friend of a friend where he worked the company had to 'lose' the chemicals when the ban was about to be enforced

  • @tappel0
    @tappel0 Před 4 lety +48

    I think there might be small bottles of carbon tet floating around in old electronics geezers' cabinets from 80s or so when it was commonly used by electronics hobbyists for cleaning printed circuitboards.

  • @floorpizza8074
    @floorpizza8074 Před 2 lety +15

    In the '70's, carbon tet was sold as a cleaning solvent that could be used on "dry clean only" clothing. My mother kept a bottle in the laundry room to clean up the spots on our church clothes. I'll never be able to forget the smell of that stuff... while it does have the stereotypical "solvent" smell, carbon tet puts its own evil spin on it that is truly remarkable. And horrible. I would've been able to tell Tom if he had real carbon tet just from being close by.

    • @jagmarc
      @jagmarc Před rokem +4

      In the UK we used to buy "Dabitoff" from the local chemist, pure carbon in a little glass applicator jar

    • @andygozzo72
      @andygozzo72 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@jagmarc i thought that stuff was trichloroethane? certainly was the ones we had years ago, i still have one aerosol of trichloroethane brake cleaner somewhere,

    • @jagmarc
      @jagmarc Před 5 měsíci

      Before they changed it to trike it was carbon-tet @@andygozzo72

  • @szymsonthatmemeguy3181
    @szymsonthatmemeguy3181 Před 2 lety +20

    I had no idea the restrictions on it were so strict. I'm a high school student and last year we were working in a lab with some halogens and their salts, and we used carbon-tet as a solvent. Guess they had a lot of faith in us

    • @michealpersicko9531
      @michealpersicko9531 Před 9 měsíci +1

      its Australia are you surprised? It might even be illegal to fart in someplaces in Australia without the proper license.

  • @mothman1654
    @mothman1654 Před 4 lety +33

    Sciencemadness rank: International hazard.

  • @chasebh89
    @chasebh89 Před 4 lety +11

    watching you roll a brass cylinder around a concrete floor hurt my soul

  • @mplaw77
    @mplaw77 Před 4 lety +15

    I worked in an industrial lab for a chlorine producer in the 1980's. We made millions and millions of pounds of CCl4 most of our product went to an adjacent company that took both our CHCl3 and CCl4 feed to make R-11, R-12, and R-22 for the air conditioner business. My lab did plant process and quality control testing for both companies. It was interesting work but toxic work yet we did not worry a lot about the toxic nature of our products. We also made methylene chloride CH2CL2 and chloromethane CH3Cl, plus HCL product. With Phenol we made made huge volumes of pentachlorophenol another banned product no doubt. All toxic yet interesting chemistry and good paying jobs. Not much exists of those organics plants today, the chlorine production still exists today and mostly goes into inorganic chlorides like NaOH and KOH and others. Some free chlorine was and is sold for water treatment for use in municipal water plants. The new owners still make use of our 600 tons per day of chlorine production at one plant and 800 tons per day at another production location. We knew in the 1980's that regulations and bans were coming and I had heard even in those days of the Montreal protocol ban. We tended to be skeptical of both ozone depletion and "acid rain" from sulfur emissions from coal fired power plants. The "acid rain" scare turned out to be false, soil acid pH changes was mostly due to land management issues. But ozone depletion proved true and seems to have recovered some. Last I heard China and India still make all the banned refrigerants they want for internal use. The main ACUTE danger from CCL4 is from the formation of phosgene gas by heating to high temperature in air. The smell around the plant was the smell of chlorine gas mixed with a hint of phosgene. New cars in the parking lot tended to have their nice paint jobs go thru accelerated aging becoming dull and rusty years sooner than expected. My lungs are impaired and have been since the 1980's so be careful and get an activated charcoal respirator for a few dollars.

  • @johnholland67
    @johnholland67 Před 4 lety +15

    "It's still a date" while not caring about the date anymore made me a subscriber you sir are serious about your obsessions

  • @Max-cv7rx
    @Max-cv7rx Před 4 lety +11

    The only problem I have with this channel is that you don’t have enough subscribers. Your content is incredibly entertaining for an aspiring chemist (I’m still in school) and still basic enough for me to understand which is great. I hope you blow up man! Just don’t let it be because of any of your Explosions&Fire2 experiments!

  • @pbdye1607
    @pbdye1607 Před 4 lety +64

    "In my other videos, I lament about the lack of a strong ozone layer above Australia. Well, today we're gonna make that hole just a lil' bit bigger...because reasons."

  • @lithum1938
    @lithum1938 Před 3 lety +4

    I believe you requested comments regarding uses for this handy solvent, but I found few in the 847 comments I read.
    Some electronic equipment is "potted" in epoxy resin for weather protection, vibration proofing etc., and sometimes
    simple or crude circuits are hidden in epoxy to hide junk 'ripoffs'. Some of us just need to know what's inside and/or
    need/want to repair equipment to save on the expensive replacement of mysterious modules. How I've done this :-
    Place your epoxy-potted module etc. together with solvent in a suitable closed vessel and wait.
    Maybe get yourself a Vili's goulash pie and a Cooper's Pale Ale or three to help pass the hours to days
    while the poxy potting epoxy expands and becomes a soft jelly which is easily removed (as it's not 'sticky').
    Warmer temps will speed the process. If you are keen the jelly after removal can be warmed to liberate (much of)
    the solvent to be then condensed and reused.
    NOTE: Some electronic components can be damaged (esp. electrolytic caps you were replacing with TKRs/EXRs anyway !)
    Painted colour codes on some resistors can come off, but you could record the values as you remove the jellypoxy using the
    vigorous rubbing motion which comes naturally. Minor components cost mere cents and your circuitry will be essentially renewed.
    This particular solvent works very well on many 'hard/glassy' potting resins but results will vary . I can't promise
    success and you might have to try other nasty/toxic/banned solvents from that collection under your bed.
    Some are likely to shout me down about the use of this solvent and/or reveal a better method of epoxy removal. Go for it..
    (This was my first ever 'CZcams comment', I hope I did it correctly and that you get to read it.)
    Cheers fellow thinkers,
    Li - not his real name - SA local, nice old grey bastard.

  • @AguaFluorida
    @AguaFluorida Před 4 lety +50

    2:58 "If this was a fire, I'd be dead right now."
    That might beat dying from CCl4 poisoning :D
    Happy equinox!

  • @locouk
    @locouk Před 4 lety +7

    We used to use the stuff for cleaning upholstery if I remember correctly, those fire extinguishers used to be common place in the auto jumble section of steam rally’s back in the 1980’s.

  • @Rhodanide
    @Rhodanide Před 4 lety +40

    It's happening, boys

  • @dankhill6851
    @dankhill6851 Před 3 lety +3

    You should generate some ozone, and then try to destroy it with cabon tet, to see how efficiently it destroys the ozone layer, I think that'd be really interesting.

  • @jasonnugent963
    @jasonnugent963 Před rokem +4

    Discovered your channel lately. Entertaining. The further I go back into older videos, the more I’m stunned you are still alive.

  • @Tarred_and_feathered
    @Tarred_and_feathered Před 4 lety +16

    I’d like to see it react with Ozone. I’m not sure if you can do that on a scale that would be very interesting but a lesson on how these kind of solvents hurt the ozone layer with a real example would sure be swell.

  • @GodlikeIridium
    @GodlikeIridium Před 4 lety +6

    CCl4 is my favorite solvent for synthesis because you can take a sample of the reaction and directly do a proton NMR without evaporation and redissolving in a deuterated solvent.

  • @savagegaming5476
    @savagegaming5476 Před 4 lety +7

    I just wanted to say, I think you're videos are hilarious, and watching your videos keeps me from experimenting myself, and putting myself in a risky situation, and I wanted to say thanks for the all the chemistry, even though I dont understand everything your doing.

  • @SupaDanteX
    @SupaDanteX Před 4 lety +8

    3 minutes of opening a container.
    This is the quality content I subscribed for :D

  • @deathkeys1
    @deathkeys1 Před 4 lety +81

    if he never uploads again, we'll know why.
    press F for respects.

    • @deathkeys1
      @deathkeys1 Před 4 lety +2

      @Evi1M4chine the joke is on you, I never played the game nor did I ever own a console, but the meme rubbed of on me.

    • @justsmallstuff4994
      @justsmallstuff4994 Před 4 lety

      F

    • @burajirujinn
      @burajirujinn Před 4 lety

      Don't even know which game it came from and only saw a random screenshot of the moment, but...
      F

    • @adamlifevictor5772
      @adamlifevictor5772 Před 3 lety

      F

  • @RaExpIn
    @RaExpIn Před 4 lety +24

    I was scared that the cylinder might be pressurized. Not because it has to be, but due to decomposition. I didn't know that CCl4 ist stable in comparison to Chloroform, that slowly turns into Phosgene and HCl. Or possibly additives that might be as bad. Pretty interesting!

    • @alexredacted2123
      @alexredacted2123 Před 4 lety

      Chloroform needs light and O2 to turn into war gas, ya dingus!

    • @RaExpIn
      @RaExpIn Před 4 lety +7

      @@alexredacted2123 I wouldn't rely on that, when opening a canister made of metal, containing a halogenated compound, which is about 60 years old. I also wouldn't rely on it it being completely air tight. And I'm pretty sure the reaction would take place without light, when time is long enough and oxygen might slowly enter the canister. It will become very slow, but what is slow considering such an amount of time? Thinking about the possibility that opening the canister might be the last thing I do, I'd choose to be better safe than sor..., uhm dead... I don't want to be THAT guy, but stay safe guys! And to be honest I would have opened the canister, too. :D

    • @ExplosionsAndFire
      @ExplosionsAndFire Před 4 lety +2

      @@RaExpIn That's an interesting thought. A lot can happen over 60 years for a chemical to just sit there! I hope there wasn't any phosgene

    • @jagmarc
      @jagmarc Před rokem

      They used them in WW2 bombers then sold as war surplus for personal cars

  • @NuculearFallout1
    @NuculearFallout1 Před 4 lety +1

    Love your videos mate. Thanks for producing enjoyable content 👌🏻

  • @ex-dk3cj
    @ex-dk3cj Před 4 lety +3

    love the videos- keep up the good work. would like to see you attempt toluene from benzoic acid via decarboxylation of benzoic acid to phenol, dehydroxylation of phenol to benzene, and methylation of benzene to toluene

  • @dogphlap6749
    @dogphlap6749 Před 3 lety +4

    I remember that stuff from the nineteen fifties. All the vans my father would work on had a brass fire extinguisher that should have been filled with carbon tetrachloride (most were empty). The smell was very distinctive, not unpleasant. Even in those anything goes days you were warned not to smoke while inhaling the vapour because it turned to phosgene (a poison gas) when heated. My father would tip an eggcup's worth into an empty leaky motorcycle petrol tank and slosh it around before gas welding the leaking seams. He never had one explode and he lived into his nineties with no liver problems but his heart gave out eventually. Back in the day it was a common solvent, good for degreasing but eventually it was replaced by freon for degreasing stuff and cleaning circuit boards but the discovery of the hole in the ozone layer has curtailed that chemical's use too.

    • @ExtractionsAndIre
      @ExtractionsAndIre  Před 3 lety +1

      Thanks for sharing! Yeah the smell is hard to describe but it is distinctive for sure. Never had used carbon tet before, but I knew for sure that's what I had when I finally got it out, nothing else is quite like it

  • @colinmartin9797
    @colinmartin9797 Před 4 lety +6

    This was weirdly well timed, I literally just had to read the MSDS for CCL4 like five minutes ago for my first OChem lab

    • @colinmartin9797
      @colinmartin9797 Před 4 lety +2

      I'd be curious to see a match passed over the vapors to see if the vapors can starve the flame

  • @bromisovalum8417
    @bromisovalum8417 Před 3 lety +4

    "Tetra" used to be everywhere in the 80s, a very common degreasing agent, until it was replaced by trichloroethylene, and later that got replaced too, usually nowadays by butyl acetates or the like.

    • @petedepledge3359
      @petedepledge3359 Před 3 lety +1

      Early 90's i worked for a company that had some defence contracts. Carbon tet? Sure. Is 10,000 litres enough?

  • @jagmarc
    @jagmarc Před rokem +3

    Just remembered the consumer could buy carbon tet from the local chemist. Called "Dab-It-Off" brilliant stuff in a little glass jar with an attached sponge under the lid. Then they changed it to "new improved formula" which was rubbish.

    • @RiffRaffMama.
      @RiffRaffMama. Před rokem +1

      Was the "new improved formula" just a completely different substance all together? And what exactly did it "dab off"?

    • @jagmarc
      @jagmarc Před rokem +2

      @@RiffRaffMama. DabItOff was a grease dirt spot remover. Probably since the 1930s buy from chemist /pharmacy. It was in a small round glass jar about 2" diameter with a metal screw top that when removed exposed a rubber sponge wet by the contents. It was very effective for removing oil spots. Around the time it became also available in self service supermarkets the formulation changed. I suspect it changed to isopropyl alcohol. I tried it was no good and then threw it away.

  • @brencrun5068
    @brencrun5068 Před 4 lety +4

    Many, many, years ago (early 1960's?) I actually tried using one of those extinguishers. As the man says, turn plunger hard left, pull back plunger and it then works as a pump.

  • @tractorguy97
    @tractorguy97 Před rokem +2

    It's just 12 minutes of Tom somehow refraining from saying "fuck, i love the 60's" 😂😂

  • @hueyhueyhueyhuey
    @hueyhueyhueyhuey Před rokem +1

    super new to your channel. love the content and enjoying the aphex twin!

  • @PvPbomber009
    @PvPbomber009 Před 4 lety +13

    Your videos are both interesting and freaking hilarious, love it.

  • @cezarcatalin1406
    @cezarcatalin1406 Před 4 lety +42

    Mix it with SO3
    SO3 + CCl4 => SCl2O2 + COCl2 !!
    Spicy and dangerous !

    • @ExtractionsAndIre
      @ExtractionsAndIre  Před 4 lety +30

      That's real spicey

    • @MyLonewolf25
      @MyLonewolf25 Před 4 lety +5

      ᏰĪᏝᏝ ՇÎρɧᏋƦ for the stupid
      Pls explain the spicy

    • @Odin1465
      @Odin1465 Před 4 lety +20

      COCl2 is called phosgene, which is extremely toxic and generally despised by the chemistry community for that. But, it is a really handy chemical with very useful reactivity, either way you pretty much cant get hold of it, even in germany where CCl4 is not hard to get.
      I also vote for that reaction ;) useful chemical for the future.

    • @cezarcatalin1406
      @cezarcatalin1406 Před 4 lety +4

      MyLonewolf25
      You get a sulfuric chlorination agent and phosgene... everything is spicy and dangerous about this reaction !

    • @mfree80286
      @mfree80286 Před 4 lety +6

      @@Odin1465 Mmm, smells like the freshly cut grass you're about to find yourself under in the cemetery.

  • @KeeganAWhite
    @KeeganAWhite Před rokem +2

    This video really triggered my "let me open that jar for you" instinct.

  • @DrPersonman
    @DrPersonman Před 4 lety +2

    You might get one of those impact screw drivers if you end up trying to open another one. Its just beefy screw driver that you hit the back of with a hammer and it turns slightly. They only cost 10-20usd and they are really handy when you run into things like that, as long as you have a vice or something to hold the cylinder anyway.

  • @terawattyear
    @terawattyear Před 4 lety +4

    It’s always so satisfying to acquire or make something you’re not supposed to have. This was a good find. Harder to find good stuff reasonably priced at thrift shops now with eBay around.

    • @cmoore8658
      @cmoore8658 Před 2 lety

      Agreed!!- There was an antique fire extinguisher for over a hundred when a roughly equal one was sitting there for ~65!- The only real difference was a hose, as far as I could see-

  • @Christer2222
    @Christer2222 Před 4 lety +19

    Didn't CodysLab also get a hold of some Carbon Tet? Pretty cool that you got a hold of something like this

    • @wyattsheffield6130
      @wyattsheffield6130 Před 4 lety +21

      I think it was Halon that Cody found

    • @peterirvin7121
      @peterirvin7121 Před 4 lety

      @@wyattsheffield6130 Yup. Completely different compound than carbon tet

    • @kesslerfox9858
      @kesslerfox9858 Před 4 lety +15

      Carbon tetrachloride is Halon 104
      Cody had Halon 1211

    • @wyattsheffield6130
      @wyattsheffield6130 Před 4 lety

      @@kesslerfox9858 good clarification!!

    • @PapaWheelie1
      @PapaWheelie1 Před 4 lety +1

      I have an extinguisher full of halon - hanging out in my garage

  • @BT-uq3qw
    @BT-uq3qw Před 4 lety +1

    Two years of dedication to bring us a brief video of entertainment and education. Respect to you!

  • @shottysteve
    @shottysteve Před 2 lety +15

    at 5:00 when it says carbon tetrachloride, i felt that

  • @StreuB1
    @StreuB1 Před 4 lety +23

    I firmly believe that if things are meant to happen, they will happen. Congrats on the find, congrats on not giving up and congrats on it actually being legit!!! Make sure you keep this stuff safe and in a box with padding so it doesn't get broken by accident. I will say, the excitement in your voice and how supportive Georgia is makes this channel and what you do so addicting. Great stuff!!!!

  • @Nick52400
    @Nick52400 Před 3 lety

    I have one of these extinguishers and was wondering what to do with it so i could restore it and now i know! thank you~

  • @gsuberland
    @gsuberland Před 4 lety +11

    That roundbottom flask is a fire grenade!

    • @firstmkb
      @firstmkb Před 3 lety +1

      Graham Sutherland I had forgotten about seeing those somewhere - what a crazy real thing!

  • @NietMartijnvt
    @NietMartijnvt Před 4 lety +15

    This stuff is so entertaining. As a chemistry student i love watching your stuff. Cheers from the Netherlands dude!

    • @willynebula6193
      @willynebula6193 Před 4 lety +2

      See this is what made yt great some1 from the Netherlands watching some1 in south Australia because of an interest in chemistry. Cool when you think about it.

    • @guitrz000
      @guitrz000 Před 4 lety

      Hello from Brazil.

  • @quint3ssent1a
    @quint3ssent1a Před 4 lety +3

    this fire extinguisher looks so dope. Brass vessel and handle, it's like a prop from steampunk movie.

  • @z987k
    @z987k Před 2 lety +1

    You can get extinguishers full of CCl4 online. They look kind of like a soda/beer can. The common brand name was a Hero Fire Extinguisher.

  • @leeroy144
    @leeroy144 Před 2 lety

    I have a vintage pyrex storage jar for carbon tet. It's engraved on the side. I keep mercury in it. Found it doing demolition at an old textile mill.
    Pretty cool peice.

  • @mealex303
    @mealex303 Před 4 lety +13

    Add a molecular seeves and get rest out of tube b4 its gone then mix in some mayonnaise and make the worlds first explosive salad dressing 😂

  • @ShadowsLetsPlays37
    @ShadowsLetsPlays37 Před 4 lety +5

    Maybe you could use some of it to demonstrate the reaction of sodium with it? I've heard it's a terrible idea to mix the two but couldn't find any good videos on it.

  • @foxtailedcritter
    @foxtailedcritter Před rokem +1

    Wow VERY INTERESTING to see a fellow Aussie into Chemistry on here. Didn't expect that. I never finished highschool but after years of messing about and learning from youtubers it's a BRILLIANT hobby/skill/way of life.
    But yeah surpied at a fellow Aussie.
    I usually see yanks all the time like NileRed doing Chemistry instead. That's pretty awesome. Subscribed

    • @RiffRaffMama.
      @RiffRaffMama. Před rokem

      His video titled "let's set fire to some metals and put it out" or something popped up in my recommendations a few days ago and I though that sounded like fun, but as soon as he spoke and I realised he was Aussie as well I legit said to my husband "oh this just got awesome" because no one does sketchy shit like we do. Straya.

  • @todanceonbrokenglass
    @todanceonbrokenglass Před 4 lety +7

    I did some research on similar chemicals, turns out it’s plausible to make phosgene gas out of carbon tetrachloride.

  • @spider0804
    @spider0804 Před 4 lety +17

    It is banned in austrailia.
    Ah, so like everything else then!

  • @matthewduke4233
    @matthewduke4233 Před 4 lety +4

    Hey! I have been a long time chem fan, and I just started college to become a chemistry major. Im wondering if I will learn enough to be where you are or if you spent way more time personally pursuing this hobby or what.

    • @WarMarsM
      @WarMarsM Před 6 měsíci

      How'd the degree go?

  • @matthewphillips9083
    @matthewphillips9083 Před rokem

    Just seen a full one of these at salvage store in the adelaide hills if you're interested! Was a 'Pyrene' brand, they also had a halon detector there which was random

  • @danwinter20
    @danwinter20 Před 9 měsíci

    I was just at a flea market in Connecticut and saw two carbon tet extinguishers (with labels on) that were completely full of liquid

  • @damonjenkins2185
    @damonjenkins2185 Před 3 lety +3

    I remember when I let a halon fire extinguisher off for fun before I knew what it was, in 2015. I now don’t know how to obtain any more halon

  • @Element4711
    @Element4711 Před 4 lety +35

    My dude. AIM AWAY FROM FACE. Please. Idk why I thought it was going to be a pressurised container but probably should have been treated as one.
    Stay safe and keep up the good work mate.

    • @sixstringedthing
      @sixstringedthing Před 4 lety +11

      This is one thing that I learned from AvE. Do not fuck about with pressure vessels, even when you think they're not holding pressure.
      And he's mainly just talking compressed air or LPG, let alone a potential bomb full of a horribly toxic halon.
      I guess in this instance the risk was pretty low though. :)

    • @laharl2k
      @laharl2k Před 4 lety +1

      Why would you use brass for a pressurized container? Brass cant hold pressure for shit, thats why we use steel.

    • @insanelyme938
      @insanelyme938 Před 4 lety +12

      @@laharl2k the 60s man...

    • @Kubla84
      @Kubla84 Před 4 lety +1

      not pressurized, you pumped it to squirt it out

    • @DamienDarksideBlog
      @DamienDarksideBlog Před 4 lety +2

      Yo, I'm Canadian and my proximity to America has drilled it into me that even if it isn't a gun, always point away from your face or others. Sure it wasn't a pressurized container... originally. Any container can become pressurized with the right reaction and enough time. Especially with temperature changes from seasons and storage.
      Just like you treat an unloaded firearm like a loaded firearm, you should treat non-pressurized nozzles the same as any pressurized nozzle.

  • @jordanwilliams5849
    @jordanwilliams5849 Před 2 lety +1

    OK... I had to stop at 3:30 because: A: I was on the edge of my seat waiting for that to spray you in the face followed by me looking for the follow up video, and B: wondering if it is kept in some sort of porous material like acetylene? I shall hit play to find out. SUBSCRIBED!

  • @Ke3per88
    @Ke3per88 Před rokem +1

    Have just found a full one of these at my mums house. Weights a ton can feel it sloshing around inside.

  • @anchorbait6662
    @anchorbait6662 Před 4 lety +7

    "if there was a fire I would be dead right now." haha

  • @willynebula6193
    @willynebula6193 Před 4 lety +13

    Some advice
    You need
    A bench vice 😉

    • @willynebula6193
      @willynebula6193 Před 4 lety +2

      Oh and spend 20 bucks and buy yourself a Stanley screwdriver set with the clear green and yellow handles, thank me later

    • @ExplosionsAndFire
      @ExplosionsAndFire Před 4 lety +1

      I do have a bench vice elsewhere in the shed! I did put it in there too, still couldn't get the screw out. :(

    • @willynebula6193
      @willynebula6193 Před 4 lety +2

      Sounds like you just needed a little squirt of magic in a can(wd40). Which gives me an idea for a video, try working out the contents of wd40 then check your results against the msds. I think a lot of people will be interested. Thoughts?

  • @artusicam3
    @artusicam3 Před 4 lety

    Great vids man new sub earned!

  • @tekvax01
    @tekvax01 Před 4 lety

    I had a full one for a while too... came from my grandfathers shed, from back in the day...
    not sure whatever happened to it... I don't have it any more...

  • @Aengus42
    @Aengus42 Před 4 lety +9

    I seem to remember carbon tet as a general solvent handy for cleaning around the home. Am I mistaken?
    Also, is it related to trichloromethane? I met a girl in 1980 who had a hamster called "trike". I asked where his name came from & she moistened her scarf from a little bottle & said "Inhale through this, I'll hold you close while you breathe in once, deeply."
    I didn't, but on looking at the bottle the hamster's name was a shortened version of "trichloromethane".
    Is that in the same group of chlorinated solvents?

    • @sivalley
      @sivalley Před 4 lety

      Yeah halocarbons are a fun bunch.

    • @chromecrescent
      @chromecrescent Před 4 lety +1

      I think trichloroethene is a common house cleaning agent, not carbon tetrachloride

    • @SerumCRM114
      @SerumCRM114 Před 4 lety +1

      Yep, trichloromethane is also known as chloroform. Both where often abbreviated as Tri or Tetra.

    • @sivalley
      @sivalley Před 4 lety +1

      @@chromecrescent yes, TCE is still a widely available degreaser, but it is very not human friendly.

    • @Aengus42
      @Aengus42 Před 4 lety

      @@SerumCRM114 Thank you! That explains a *whole* lot! 😋

  • @danielgrantcoleman
    @danielgrantcoleman Před 4 lety +11

    Now you just need some triphynelphosphine. Make some alkyl chlorides. 👍

  • @NoahGooder
    @NoahGooder Před rokem +1

    I never thought I would be entertained by watching a grown ass man struggle to open a fire extinguisher from the 1960s

  • @LASERFACE_G
    @LASERFACE_G Před rokem

    Seriously great choice of music

  • @SuperSqwiggy
    @SuperSqwiggy Před 4 lety +4

    It's still a date... now I'm off for a toastie and a distillation, bye

  • @firehoax9230
    @firehoax9230 Před 4 lety +4

    Mix with NaN3

  • @johno6861
    @johno6861 Před 4 lety +1

    Try boat yards and ship breakers, we were always wondering what to do with the toxic stuff. We had enough Halcyon sitting around to kill a small city.

  • @tay-lore
    @tay-lore Před rokem

    I already saw waht you did with it!! I don't remember what exactly it was... But I remember you pulling some carbon tet out of your freezer like it was nothing

  • @kriskeersmaekers233
    @kriskeersmaekers233 Před 4 lety +4

    Can you talk about what the dangers are and such? Its interesting

    • @UnicaLuce
      @UnicaLuce Před 3 lety +2

      so this liquid when metabolized turns into CCl3 which is a radical ( it fucks up stuff by stealing electrons from other atoms (so it can damage dna causing cancer)) plus it also damages the liver and kidneys, oh and also! nervous system damage with brain damage as a bonus! so it's basically something you'd want to avoid at all costs if you were to value your life.

  • @blubb7711
    @blubb7711 Před 4 lety +24

    Methane, Chlorine and some UV light would do the trick....
    Engage safety squints!

    • @cezarcatalin1406
      @cezarcatalin1406 Před 4 lety +7

      Overengineering
      Even better:
      Chloroform, Chlorine and some UV

    • @firstmkb
      @firstmkb Před 3 lety +2

      Raises hand - Methane, Chlorine, and overhead fluorescent lights work too!

  • @TlD-dg6ug
    @TlD-dg6ug Před 2 lety

    I remember my family had an old screen printing shop and I found a can of contact cleaner I believe it was. But I remember it was carbon tet. Wish I still had it, didn't realize it was anything special.

  • @nicholasmcintyre4166
    @nicholasmcintyre4166 Před 4 lety +2

    Watching you play with dangerous chemicals is making me subconsciously avoid touching my face and is giving me a urge to wash my hands😅

  • @frotwithdanger
    @frotwithdanger Před 4 lety +3

    Even if you ended up getting some of that stuff in vanilla Coke by keeping them next to each other I doubt the Coke's flavor would be any worse