Thinking of a .410?
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- čas přidán 4. 07. 2024
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I had a very accomplished shooter who told me that a 410 was an experts shotgun not a novice shotgun. Given his levell of skill & expertise i wholey agree with him!
I need 12 g shotgun. Made in Russia DBBL old model.
I am 79 years old and have shot a 410 at game since I was thirteen and shoot the same average number of birds as I do with my 12 bores going down to 28 bores, I love the 410 to bits.
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One of my favourite things todo is shoot with my .410 once a week or when my shooting is going wrong it soon puts any bad habits to right as I have to think about shots more
I'm blown away with the accuracy this shooter displays with his .410
He is shooting piss easy targets Mike
Hey David,
I bought a Baikal (Russian) .410 bore O/U several years ago with fixed chokes because it really was intended to be used in the field. This shotgun weighs in at 7.2 lbs and “swings” much like a larger bore gun. I have shot it several times here on a sporting clays course and it does nicely with target presentations with sub-gauge in mind.
Thank you again David, everyone down at the OGC take care.
410's are not just fun guns.there is a gentleman at my local club who shoots a k80 with release trigger and consistently shoots scores the same as 12 gauge shooters.410 are not toys in the hands of a good shooter.
Nice video. - Been shooting .410 competitively for Skeet and Trap for many years... along with all the other gauges. I LOVE the .410 !! Have several Brownings; some new and some quite old. Wonderful guns for any gauge, but as I get older that light recoil really helps keep it fun!
Love the .410 shell. Wish more people shot em. Very fun caliber!
I carried a .410 as often as I did a single shot .22 as a kid stomping around through the woods. Which usually depended on what i had the most ammo I had on for at the time.
Same!
My double barrel 410 has accounted for hundreds of rabbits over the years. Squirrels too . I started shooting a 410 when I was 8 years old and today at 71 I still love to rabbit hunt and the 410 is my choice of gun for them . I shoot my 20 gauge in the duck blind and a 12 gauge at deer. My favorite skeet gun is my Winchester 101 over and under in 12 gauge .
I have an Yildiz and i love shoot with it. It 's a little more difficult than my 12 gauge but it's a pleasure. I'm sorry for my english but i'm a froggy 😊
Good review David. I'd never considered a .410 but you have sparked an interest.
Great job! Proffesional as always!
a quality 410 is a great companion to a 20 gauge especially if they have the same size frame. They also are increasing in value even faster than larger gauges. At least in the US.
Mossberg Silenced P/A .410 preferably with the composite stock, shot so many Pigeons with mine in places you wouldn’t dare go with an ordinary gun, 3 shot too, makes an air rifle sound loud, brilliant.
I bought a .410 Yildiz side by side a few years ago, and I couldn't miss with it, even on longer targets. Unfortunately, those early guns were recalled, and the replacement gun was OK, but it didn't have the magic of the first one. They absolutely brilliant value for money, and there's nothing more satisfying than hitting a difficult clay with a .410. I recently bought an old Norica 3 shot bolt action for £30, and I've had lots of fun with it, and even hit a 45 yard crosser, which I missed with a 12 bore.
Dave Carrie has done several vids on the 410. All of them are excellent !
Excellent just what I needed ,thanks so much ...
Thats a great video thanks dave
Thank you for the information! Great video
410 is a great little gun combined with 3" Winchester super X cartridges many moons ago.
i like 3.5 because I roll crimp. so after first shot i cut off the crimp. as the mouth of the case wears I trim back again and again. i even have some 2" 410 loads
When I was 10, my Dad would take me quail hunting and a Winchester model 42 with a 28" barrel worked great. A lot harder to hit the birds with this compared to the 16 or 12 gauge. I dad would say when you get good with that then you can go up to the 16 gauge. He grew up in the 1930's so for him growing up if you when hunting if you wasted ammo, you got sent to the wood shed. So you'd make your shots count. But when I got to where I could make my shots on the clay's it was really easy when I was ready for the bigger gauges.
My review, I bought this for my grandson to learn on squirrel and rabbits so weight and recoil go hand in hand. Right on the money, fit and fun,, right on, ease to disassemble and clean, right on, easy on the eyes, fair price on budget. The only knock is no removable chokes. The case could be much more form fitted to avoid rubbing.
Nice one, David!
I'm keen to get my granddaughter into shooting and the .410 seems like a good place to start! (Don't forget the ladettes, as well as the lads!) 😂
I recently took my 12yr old daughter shooting, she loved it so much that a week later I bought her a Kofs 410 of her very own, she loves it! Theres a review of her using it on my channel if you want some encouragement for your grandaughter.
.410s are great fun. The ammo is a bit expensive, but I handload for them.
I don't recommend .410s for beginners. I started my sons with 20 ga. handloads using 3/4 oz. of shot...a 28 ga. loading in a 20 ga. hull.
I consider .410s better for experienced shooters. I generally use 2-1/2" shells with 1/2 oz. of shot
Bettinsoli suggested retail price of the X-Trail in the USA is $1999.00
Yildiz is less than half the price.
In the USA, the .410 is often considered a defensive round, especially loaded with OOO buckshot shot in one of the specialized revolvers on the market. Personally, I get great accuracy shooting Brenneke slugs out of my iron sighted Henry action...
I wish it was considered a nice all around shotgun cartridge.
I got my first deer with a .410 3/4oz slug load, Remington gold clay loads dove hunting got my limit, and around the same loads Rabbit hunting!
I would enjoy seeing a commentary on 28 bore... I believe it's much underappreciated..
Good guns 410 you can hit more than you think with the right cartridge.
Well done video ! 👍🏼
.410 3½ " shot shells ? . they are available in 2" 2½ and 3" Cutting down the stock on guns like these to fit a smaller child , and the stock can be lengthened as the child grows . This will not hurt its value if it is properly done , as there is a ready market for child sized guns . Also remember .410 2½" is used in 4 caliber skeet shooting ,
Years ago when I was thinking about getting a shotgun. I asked my friend a life long hunter, "What gauge shotgun should I get?".. He said, "There is only one gauge, 12". Still makes me laugh.
* And, your friend is still correct.
@@charlessmith4242 I know but if I tell him that, I will never hear the end of it.
@@tuddrussell * LOL, I can appreciate that!
Can you do a side by side video as I’m teaching myself to shoot with one after years of over and under shooting but not an AYA sales pitch, just a technical video would be appreciated
It's Benny Hill!😂😂😂
I use a single shot, bolt action, French Bretton full barrel moderated for roost shooting near a stables and on the farm yard. It's quieter than my .22lr with subs. Great fun little gun bought used for £100.
shot a model 42 Winchester for YEARS ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,now a model 870 Remington in 410,,,,,,,,,,,,,,great little shotguns.
Spent some time on a white lightning browning. Fantastic shotgun
Excellent video 👍
As a couple with worn out shoulders my wife and I both have stepped down/up to a 410 for shooting clays and home defense. Reloading makes it inexpensive. Per round it is 17 cents for birdshot, 37 cents for buckshot.
Awesome video !!!
I've wanted to get a .410 for a while but can't find any around my area ,,, I keep looking because they're a great little gun !!!
Thank You so much for this and all of your videos !!!!!
Was looking at one in John Forseys recently. A Lincoln over under.
@@engineer6250 John Forseys is one gun shop the TSC works with so if you go in there and say The Shooting Channel TSC TV they will give you a discount, if you need anything please call David on 01844 238 308.
The Oxford Gun Company have lots in at the moment give them a call they will help you.
I have a kofs 410 and it's been a great gun! i would like to have a sxs 410.
Good vid Dave
I think there's a lot more to be said about cartridges and loads. A 410 throws a long string of shot that quickly degrades with range. At 30 metres you're going to have a ragged pattern with lots of holes in it - unless you increase the number of pellets. No 7 shot seems to be the smallest available in commercial loads, but No 9 would give a denser pattern. Even the best shot can't guarantee that a 410 load of No 6 pellets will kill cleanly beyond 30m, so I say stick to short range and use the smallest pellets possible!
* Better to stick to short range, but use large enough size pellets to insure there is enough energy to make a clean kill. Adjust the choke constriction to place more pellets in your pattern.
Very correct never a toy . Educate proper firearms saftey. That said in 1975 at the age of 10 i graduated fron bb/pellet to a .22lr . I never got a .410 ta shoot. Straight into 16g 12g and 10 g. I was 15yrs old. .410 would have been a better step up. I see the video for what he is trying to present. Better next step for a young shooter. Greg. USA
Congratulations on your videos, they're very educating.
Could you please tell me the weight of the bettinsoli in kgs?
Thank you very much for your time.
410 is a handy little gun , just a shame that they cost so much to feed .
Question for those in the UK....Is there an ammo shortage over there too? All 410 over here remains sold out 90% of the time....
Ty
I enjoy bringing my 410 & 28ga guns to the range occasionally to show up my buddies. For some reason the lil fire sticks bring out the beast in me 😁
Might have a look now for a .410 , don’t have clue where I’m going to shoot it at the moment . I recently ish had a fun shoot with my pump action 12 gauge savage stephens 77f with fixed open choke . Not really a clay gun but I saw it in a rack at Henry Kranks and it spoke to me so I bought it . I struggled at long going away shots but it rocked at rabbits and high coming to me shots . Any tips , I would love to see you give a pump a try and give some tips please or would etiquette not allow . I usually shoot a Miroku mk38 trap in 12 gauge , a Miroku ORE in 12 gauge , a Webley and Scott 12 gauge or a Hatsan Escort Super Magnum semi auto in 12 gauge . I usually shoot English Sporting clays . Fed up with the lockdown and looking forward to the grounds opening up again . Hope your all fairing well and I suppose we all have to weather out this storm . Stay safe and than you for another great video .
My friendly club has fallen in the pandemic unfortunately. My O/U and semi 12g get hardly used now... 12g pump, 410 pump and 410 under lever make skeet a lot more interesting :-) No marksman, typically 22 plus with semi. But my biggest smile was 18 with an under lever 410. Lighter, no kick, 200 carts weigh almost nothing.
Very nice engrwaving
Really nice to see a review of 410’s. I’ve often thought I’d like to try a SxS in this gauge. If you shoot within its limitations and use plenty of field craft they can be remarkably effective and fun to use around the farm. My only concern is where they’ll stand when lead is phased out and steel is the only viable alternative. ?
Home reloading
@@itsekeyx * You missed the point.
Would be good to see a review of the beretta 686E, there are plenty of reviews of the 686E Evo, but virtually no 686E reviews which is an older version with mobil chokes
Bonjour
Quel est le fusil que vous avez en main ?
Et d’après vous quel est le meilleur fusil pour la chasse en superposé calibre 410
Merci
Cordialement
Joël
Yes the way my shoulders going and the average range of the driven bird i shoot or a 28 bore
Nice gun yaldiz .I need one
This is an awesome channel to watch. But different gun reviews would be great. Always browning. Maybe benelli 828 u. Etc
You should try the 36 cal we use it in lebanon to hunt small birds
Nothing beats my 10 bore
Camera man looking right down that barrel. Even if I knew it was unloaded I would never do that.
How many times does he say a little bit of fun? They are great light weapons!
Would like to see the old Webley 410 bolt action review.
Nice
Not really a fair comparison between makers… the Yildiz with a adult stock (which is available) is a very good gun for keeping. If you are moving feed sacks and water across fields and want to take a gun along for pest control a light 410 is a sensible choice.
The gun configuration LOP, Cast, don't seem to matter. You shoot very well no matter length of barrel or weight. Why?
Do u have any in stock the 1st gun u tried
I have a Rossi. I reload with 40 cal. musket balls. Put a rear sight on it. I love the gun. I'm no young person and don't underestimate a .410.
Someone tell me more about 3&1/2 inch 410 shells. Im not familiar with them
What will happen to this calibre when the phase out lead? Is there non toxic cartridges available?
Yes, in the states at least
How would a guy in the states get one of them first ones?
I am having trouble understanding who the maker is on the full size shotgun, are you saying Pedersoli??? The other s a Yildiz I got that
Same
Hi, can anyone tell me if there is a significant difference in noise levels between 20 gauge and .410?
More louder, yes but if you have ear protection On. It’s fine. The kick you will not notice much of a difference
I have 410 tubes that fit my 20 sxs. Two guns for one.
Did he say 3.5" 410? Never heard of that.
I shoot rabbits with 4.10 .Just wondering if a 28bore would be better could you make a film about 28bores because you don't see much about them are they any good!
Coming very soon Mr Burrows. Keep on with the rabbits!
I have a savage arms single shot 410 got it for a Christmas present of 1980 when I was 16 years old still have shoots really good still in good shape
I just bought me a hatfield.410. $108 couldn’t pass it up especially to teach my sisters how to shoot
Oi! That looks like a lot of freedom youve got there, got a license for that fun mate?
I can't understand your accent, can someone please spell out the names of these two guns? I'm not familiar with English brands.
Can anyone tell me the names of these guns
I have 2 boito 410 a single And a double
Great video!! What about a good 410 s x s
Remember the old Spanish s/s hammer action that folded in half?
.410 is on average 25$ a box here in USA. Think about that before making this your dedicated gun unless you have plenty of money. Even 28g is cheaper.
Not concerned with birds but wondering what is 10 yards that is wanting to hurt me.
A “TOY” good grief what will you come out with next!
A 410 is a shotgun that carries a lighter load for when you require less shot and don’t want to blow the sh.. out of something.
Ballistics wise and down range energy of pellet at 1300 to 1400fps is the same regardless of gauge what differs is the weight of shot being sent.
The younger generation have always started with them as there is less weight, recoil etc. As my son did.
You were correct to do that. Less recoil learning creates fewer bad habits to break and a better shot when the climb to 12ga
Three and a half inch David?
looking to buy one for my grandson need a left handed one though
If you give David a call at 01844 238 308 he may be able to help you with what you pick.
I have been shooting a SXS Stevens .410 since I was 11. Never had an issue as a lefty, just had to learn how to flip my thumb over the lever. Best gun I have for swamp rabbits below New Orleans.
I might buy an old single barrel 410
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Does that shotgun kick back much?
No it does not very soft.
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A legitimate gauge to shoot smaller animals like fox or coyote with a 1/4 oz. slug.....At senseable distances , of course.
Never heard of a 3 and a half inch .410 cartridge. No gun is a toy.
Wood grade 2-3??🤣
Cuanto cuesta esa escopeta 410
You are giving a price of 800 pounds for the Bettinsoli, but the price I see here in the USA is close to $4000, what gives?
Really a six year shooting a fire arm. Where are you USA ?
Only problem here with the .410 is the availability of the shells. Non existent here in the US. I have three .410 but no ammo to shoot them.
I happened to be in my local shop. None was out, they had just gotten 1 box in so I snagged it with an order for more!
I have no problem getting .410 shells. The .410 is getting more popular especially with the Taurus Judge.
@@Chrisinpa where?
I bought my Rossi at a gun show for $129.00....and they are not toys. See how many sheets of plywood a slug will go through.
Oi Mate, keep your fingers off the trigger when loaded until ready to shoot. Nice review on the gun, liked it.