Protecting Your Board | EDHRECast 179
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- čas přidán 9. 09. 2021
- Say no to setbacks! This week we're discussing some of the best ways to keep your valuable board state safe in EDH.
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14:25 I've countered a blightsteel with mana tithe and there really is no better feeling
Dayman, fighter of the night man, champion of the sun, he is the master of karate and friendship for everyone.
-2 points for missing both (absolutely necessary mind you!) instances of "Aaaahhhhh!"
I call them "Preanimate" effects. They include:
Feign Death
Malakir Rebirth
Kaya's Ghostform
Abnormal Enduranc
Supernatural Stamina
Minon's Return
Shade's Form
Unhallowed Pact
Unholy Endenture
These are great in my Kokusho deck.
Blood for Bones doesn't target so it can do a similar thing.
Also, in green you have Reincarnation which is criminally underplayed.
3 mana for reincarnation is really rough
No love for "Not of This World" for colorless? It's quite amazing!
Also: Lazotep Plating in blue is really good as well and is really cheap (meaning money-wise mainly but it is also just 2 mana).
Warping wail is a colorless card that can counter most board wipes. It does cost actual colorless mana so it can't go in every deck, but on the flip side it has some other utility as well.
Scrap trawler, in artifact decks, can recur quite a lot of your board in face of a wipe.
That's a great point! On the topic of colorless, I really think Not Of This World should have been mentioned - even if you'd be unlucky enough to hardcast it, it will still allow you to counter Anything that targets an important piece of your board!
And the fact that you can counter spells in for exempel Golgari is just Amaziing!!
They've changed the colorless rules a while ago. Generic mana = colorless mana. Makes it easier to cast them
@@Oopsall Not sure what you're trying to say. Warping wail requires an actual colorless source, not just any source, and most decks can only play so many of those without losing access to their colors.
@@qqpit1 I mean things like sol ring and colorless utility lands call cover it, I usually have at least one on the field because I'm a lot like Dana lol
I play Lazotep plating on occasion in certain decks, always gets a "wait, what does that card do?
Marneus calgar from the WH40K decks loves lazotep plating: protection plus create a token draw a card
cauldren of souls is amazing, I have it in my Heliod deck and its beautiful, it lets Heliod run wraths. In my Captain Sisay deck one of my favourite is Shalai Voice of Plenty. And generally speaking my favourite spell is Gift of Immortality. If you stick that on a creature that you can sacrifice for some effect like a fog or a ramp spell or a tutor or a removal etb, you have yourself an engine!
Cauldron of souls is a 5 mana colorless artifact that is repeatable boardwipe protection; you can give any number of creatures persist until end of turn by tapping it. A bit expensive, but very, very good once it is on the board.
I'm really happy with this episode, I think you mentioned just about every important card in this category except one. You mentioned that white gets a "Target thing gains indestructible until end of turn." about every set, but one stands above the rest: Blacksmith's Skill. Protecting anything from anything except mass bounce or exile for 1 mana is pretty good.
cauldron of souls is amazing in any +1/+1 counters decks, selesnya goes without saying... but heartmender is DELICIOUS tech as well
Saw this challenge the stats about standardise. Had a game with my yuriko deck in a tribal only pod. Someone cast kindred dominance and I was able to use standardise as a board protect/ counterpell by turning everyone's creatures into that creature type.
Playing abzan. Had lapse of certainty and heroic intervention in hand. Path to exile cast targeting a my enchanted tymna. Used lapse to counter the spell and put it back on top. Then next turn used heroic intervention to stop it again and swing in lethal. Because lapse put the card back I was perceived as less of a threat as the players felt like it would be dealt with next turn.
Dana with the it's always sunny references. Love it.
You CAN reuse Teferi's Protection technically...
Teferi's Protection!
Pull from Eternity!
Then everyone else groans when it goes back to your hand^^
wait... Joey has never seen It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia? I envy that he gets to watch them for the first time, if he so chooses
He has not, and we taunt him about it at least twice a day.
I've recently fallen in love with glorious protector. Unlike cards like eerie interlude or faith guardian who leave you open for attacks for a small period of time. Glorious protector returns your creatures when a board wipe or mass bounce spell resolves.
Think I can understand the context fer Feed the Swarm in many Dina.dec.
Most likely vestige of pre-con effect. It does handshake reasonably with face Commander Willowdusk but yea, the knowing builder should cut it from their Dina decks
I built Winota and added tons of protection. Eldrazi monument is exceedingly scary! Then there's the true and tried boros charm and selfless spirit, but also boros specials like legion's initiative, Hofri Ghostforge from strixhaven and Gerrard Weatherlight Hero that doubles as a human. That's just the beginning of human synergies, there's also Lena selfless champion and angel of glorys rise. I run spirit bonds that helps make non human tokens in addition to protecting, Mother of runes of course and Cliffside rescuer. Mirror of the forebears can become winota in a pinch or other any human. As a bonus Homura Human Ascendant becomes an anthem with +2/+2 flying and fire-breathing when it dies giving me not so much protection but serious assault power for the next wave, red style.
I was really surprised that you did not mention Flicker-effects and "Exile, return at next end step" more - Eerie Interlude is a completely Insane card imo, but there are several cards that do this on single-targets. There is even one in blue, that will protect Any of your permanents
Ashaya, can save you from cyclonic rift, vigor can save you from damage based wipes or alpha strikes and temur sabertooth let’s you pick up your creatures to redeploy next turn. If you can flash these creatures in or chord of calling you will be sitting pretty
Serling Grove + Privileged Position + Avacyn Angel of Hope = Untouchable board (indestructible, shrouded enchantments and hexproof permanents)
Tooth and Nail out Avacyn and Archetype of Endurance is what I usually do. Doesn't stop Deluge or Rift though
"Tap six for Merciless Eviction"
Stubborn Denial is definitely the best Counterspell in my Ur-Dragon Deck :)
0:50 It also seems like Joey's favourite, too. Seems like a smile is trying to break through right there, even despite his claim!
@@andrewsparkes8829 XD
Thanks guys I was trying to think of another protection card for the new werewolves deck and I think Wrap in Vigor will do nicely.
Full moon's rise is perfect protection for werewolves deck.
@@Naturessightsandsounds7040 But of course which is why it was already there along with, of course, Heroic Intervention. I just wanted to have a third piece to up the odds I would have one in a dire moment. Not to mention Full Moon's Rise is an anthem that, given the option, I would rather keep lol.
@@kellylogs2642 I would rather keep my creatures after a board wipe lol.
@@jimbeamer5145 well yeeeeah of course, I'm just saying if I have the option to deploy an instant rather than pop the anthem I know which I'm doing first.
@@kellylogs2642 lol bruh you can sac the enchantment at instant speed what are you talking about put both in you deck duh.
Oh wow, Vicious Shadows seems so cool!
I'd love to see and episode of upping the average on Sevinne to see if after Midnight Hunt is finally a viable commander to play
I'm so jealous that Joey's mom plays
I only read the Inspiring Call indestructible clause this week. It was good enough just with that.
I immediately liked this the moment I heard Matt's Dad joke! Love it!!!
Rakdos charm is easily my favorite charm. Artifact and graveyard hate and it can just kill people sometimes. Killing the "i make infinite dudes" player with it feels amazing.
Gotta keep a Dawn Charm ready for that 😉
I think it would have been good to discuss the ability itself.
Does every deck need this? In which deck is it more valuable and how many of these cards are worth running?
Instead of just mentioning all the cards that include the effect. While useful, the lack of more personal and subjective opinions on the subject, makes it become something that can be googled :p
Serra’s Emissary has won me many, many games defensively.
Well someone needs to watch always sunny!
GODDAMMIT Matt with the dad jokes
22:54 Regenerate is nearly useless because most destroy boardwipes say "they can't be regenerated". Exile and bounce boardwipes obviously get around it too. Far too narrow to consider.
Yesterday I teferi’ dun response to a deathbringer regent and that pretty much sealed my victory. 15/10. Would board state protect again.
I wonder if Changeling would be a possibility with Standardize?
As a Yuriko player, I've tried Standardize, and it just falls off in comparison to Arcane Adaptation and Maskwood Nexus because it's just a one-off.
P.S. I'm here for Dana's pronunciation of Scourge (Scowrge?)
Gadrak is a house in my Magda deck!
Dayman ahh ahhh ahhh
You don’t say stage freeze.
Joey thinks a Dodge Charger is a sports team, lol
I’m so glad someone else picked up on that 😂
I like Join Shields. It’s expensive at 5 mana but in addition to protecting your board you can also use it to overextend a bit on attacks. Depending on how people block you can use it right then to protect your attackers, or if your attackers are reasonably safe enough without it, you can save it for a surprise untap and block on the crack back.
Feed the Swarm is good in a Willowdusk deck that focuses on playing lots of lifelinkers and cards that make you lose life in one way or another. Play Feed the Swarm lose life, put +1/+1 counters on something with lifelink, gain the life back.
hi scourge ❤️✨
Lazotep Plating in U!
"I am a... yeah for sure"
Joey did it dawn on you?
Feed the swarm is still good because it's flexible. Sometimes you need to kill a creature, sometimes you need to kill an enchantment. (Of course, run beast within etc over it)
Gluttonous Troll for the Troll Toll.
Gadrak is in 5200 decks, it is just not played as a commander that often.
It probably could still see more play, just wanted to throw the real number out there
Ya'll forgot Imps Mischief, sure its situational, but no one ever expects a redirect style card in mono black.
Now pull a 180 and don't do an episode about rebuilding next week
no lifeline?