Should We Treat Nominal Christians Any Different Than Unbelievers? | ask Theocast
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- Why do we get so angry with false converts? They are sinners in need of a savior, and yet we demand them to behave as Christians should. If someone is truly a false convert, how should we engage with them? Should pastors preach harder, more fiery sermons so these false converts will change their ways? Pastor Jon Moffitt offers some insight on how we should engage those who claim they are believers but are not.
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I've seen exactly what you are talking about and you are totally right bro. The law kills, but the Spirit [alone] gives life!
1:50 WOW, so much sense! Of course!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! That's so true. You can't yell or scare a dead person to live!
Oh what grace it is! Jesus’ words resounds in my ears: Come to me all you who are weary and heavy burdened and I will give you rest.”
Wow, this was so eloquently explained🙏🙏🙏
Truly learning this within my own family ❤
Thank you for this clip. Really help me. God bless
Actually, the First Purpose of the Law is to frighten unbelievers about God's wrath.
You're right, LAW in no way ENABLES them to obey. But it does make them recognize that it's IMPOSSIBLE for them to obey. Only then will they understand the value of the Gospel, fall on their face and ask for mercy.
You don't preach law to contrite Christians. But you most DEFINITELY preach Law to prideful unbelievers. No, not out of "anger." But certainly in confrontation.
You guys are awesome, thank you so much! I've been truly blessed by your videos!
Thanks for the encouragement!
The painful irony of an LDS commercial before this video....
Some Christians I know don’t like Paul Washer for this exact reason - he's always yelling
For preaching with Passion? Like the Bible doesn’t tell people to do so. I don’t understand this channels approach to many things. They’re so soft about everything, they’re really starting to irk me…
@@Muzicboy3 washer is a hypocrite..he preaches grace, but he is always examining your fruit in order to meet his criteria for salvation
@@joelee8200Bro you consume too much free grace content. And this is my problem with this channel. The cater to free grace but pretend they don’t. You need to understand regeneration. Paul Washer preaching a more full context of the Bible. We are saved by grace. It is a gift and we can’t obtain heaven by a single work. But those who are regenerated live a completely different lifestyle. They live holy because God has started a work in them. A born again Christian walks on the narrow bath, battles sin, fights sin, makes war with sin, hates sin, grows in their hatred for sin, grown in their eagerness to be obedient to God, feels broken to the point they may weep over the sin they are struggling with because it crushes them to disrespect and be disobedient to their God and savior. Thats they Paul preaches examine yourself. Because it’s actually preached in the Bible, because many people just don’t care about God at all also many are duped into believing they’re Christian because they say they have faith, but if u could look at their life over the course of 5 years video recorded you will not just see struggling with sin. You’ll see them willing indulging in the practice of sin as a lifestyle without any remorse whatsoever. Thats a great big sign that they don’t truly have the faith they say they do. And that’s not faith plus works. But genuine faith produces those type of fruits. And free gracers for whatever reason can’t seem to grasp the concept of faith produces are genuine serious walk of holiness, but that doesn’t mean we are trying to work for our salvation. But just because we aren’t working for our salvation, it doesn’t mean that we just casually walk through this life without a real heartfelt hatred for sin and a real heartfelt love and desire to please God.
If u want a weird way to word it ( AND PLEASE DONT TAKE THIS THE WRONG WAY)
We live almost as if we are working for our salvation ( KNOWING FULLY THAT WE AREN’T WORKING FOR OUR SALVATION AND CANT WORK FOR OUR SALVATION)
It hurted so bad to just say that because I hate to even think of something that sounds even that close to “working for salvation”
but I said it like that because I really want free gracers to rethink the way the think about salvation.
we strive to please God and we follow and obey him, we don’t just live good or decent lives or even delivish lives while saying we have faith.
We submit ourselves to our Lord and walk in holiness, not to gain or earn salvation, but it seperates those who have genuine faith from those who have a falsified faith… and no I don’t think we can be perfect in that walk but it is a serious walk setting our eyes on Christ and giving him our life and allowing him to change our ways, going from the old man to the new man, who lives a totally different lifestyle
He's toned down the yelling a lot now. This video actually made me think of Paul Washer, who tells the story of how he gently told a minister where he was guest speaking that he was going to preach the Gospel, even though the minister said, "They're all saved."
I especially appreciate Paul Washer's softer preaching style, where he focuses on the love of God for us.
I understand all of the things you've said and I agree with it, but I just would like to know what does it mean and/or look like to be a "false convert" or "believer"?
On going unrepentant sin in the persons life.
@@silversurfer2703 checkout our recent video on our channel on habitual sin!
@@THEOCAST Thanks I just watched it, I found it to be very helpful and encouraging !
My experience IS that the church goer 'here', IS HOSTILE to the Word of God & have NO IDEA "WHAT" Repentance Is like !!!! ugh- ((Also a BAD Representing the GOSPEL !!!!!!!!!
God draws all men unto Him and He gives a measure of faith to every man, it's then up to us to decide whether to believe or not.
What you said is not the Gospel. You have no ability to believe. God is always trying to draw men to him but God gives a measure of faith to every man is not biblical. God either chooses you or He doesn't. You receive saving faith upon your conversion which is a divine act of God.
@@2009hawks1 Your God is a wicked puppet master who decides who gets saved and who is lost.
God's foreknowledge does not equate to forced knowledge.
God has predestined those who would believe to be conformed into the image of Christ.
God's Sovereignty allows for a free will.
God does indeed draw all men unto Him and He gives a measure of faith to every man, it's then up to us to decide where to place our faith.
@@colonalklink14 There is no question man has free will and most of them will perish. We are born spiritually dead and unless there is a radical change in nature, a divine act of God (Justification, Regeneration,) we will perish . This is one time event, salvation is not a process of us doing something or not doing something. The saving faith that is required is given to you by the Grace of God if. he regenerates you. Only a remnant of those who profess to be Christians will be saved by grace.
@@2009hawks1 Your God is a wicked puppet master who decides who gets saved and who is lost.
Your Jesus died for the sins of the elect only.
We both agree that we are all born spiritually dead.
You have another Jesus and another gospel.
You completely miss the point of Paul Washer’s sermon. Did you even listen yo it yourself? His point is that an encounter with the Almighty God should leave some kind of evidence in your life, just like getting hit by a truck would show evidence of the accident.
Who are you talking to? Because who are you saying missed the point of Paul Washer’s sermon? Who brought up Paul Washer lol
@@Muzicboy3Clearly you did not connect the dots in the video. Paul Washer is the preacher that tells the story about the logging truck, and this pastor completely missed the point of Paul Washer’s sermon when he misused it to try to support his argument. And I was responding directly to Theocast who made this post.
@@Lonesoul9791agreed.
Yes. There will be SOME evidence, however the evidence we seek might be different from what is manifesting in that person at that time. We just need to let God be God.
@@Lonesoul9791oh ok … upon watching again … Yes i did miss that … and that’s my favorite internet preacher haha
You are way off on this video. Paul clearly tells Christians to stop sinning multiple times. True Christians will listen and repent
There are works based people who say they believe in Christ, but say they have followed the true standard of the law with the help of grace, and scream back you dumb for not following the true standard with God's help.
A "nominal Christian" and a "non believer" are 2 sides of the same coin!
If you preach and or believe anything except the truth of Scripture, you are on the wrong side of history!
A believer can never be abandoned by the Father but will be chastised and lose rewards when he dies without repenting of sins. You are the one who needs to know the difference.
@@andyk007able I Know the difference. A Christian can , however, turn his back on God and forego his salvation. That is the free will choice God gave us.
My point though was not that.
My point was there is zero difference between a "nominal Christian" and a non believer in God's eyes.
You are with with him or against him.
There is no middle ground!
@brucedavenport7016 Well, good luck maintaining your salvation. In my opinion, that is a works based salvation. It is not a lot different from Catholic Soterioligy, which is faith + works. Make sure to examine yourself continuously so you don't turn yourself back on God. Just know He expects perfect obedience. Make sure not to turn your back on God through disobedience.
@@andyk007able James 2:26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
Just one of a multitude of Scriptures I could quote to point out your lack of understanding.
@brucedavenport7016 obedience is important but not for salvation from the wrath of God. It is for the good of our neighbors. You have to read it in context. Abraham is still declared righteous through faith alone. But since he is a new creation, he is encouraged to do good work because faith without work is dead, aka useless.