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- Eddie House joins Skip Bayless, Shannon Sharpe and Joy Taylor to gives his take on the continuous Michael Jordan vs. LeBron James GOAT conversation.
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Eddie House weighs in on the Jordan vs. LeBron GOAT conversation | NBA | UNDISPUTED
• Eddie House weighs in ...
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Does LeBron need a title this year to pass Jordan as the GOAT?
He needs 3 more.
He already past jordan in 2016
"can he stop Jason Terry?"
Bruh golden state in 7 cavs in 7 and cavs vs warriors in 7 that will end all conversation on LBJ he will be the best
Skip and Shannon: UNDISPUTED LeoMichael Jordan still better
Skip: "The Celtics after sweeping Jordan said that was God disguised as M.J. The Spurs didn't say that about LeBron after sweeping him in the finals." 😂😂😂😂😂 That comment had me cracking up.
@T Dillinger No one even questioning that bruh. 🤷
Jason Terry grinning , and laughing on the side😏🤗😏
Trust me , Eric Spoelstra and Pat Riley and the rest of the Heat , will win NBA Chip earlier than LBJ if LBJ will ever win again
I was cracking up too when he said it
@@WeCube1898 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 you're joke.
Skip’s adlibs when LeShannon is talking 😂😂 “hmm” “yeah”
Mmm
EVERYTIME!!!
Jose Fernandez TRU🤣🤣😂😂🤣🤣
Jose Fernandez 😀😂😁🤣😂😀😂😀😁🤣😁😁😂😀😂😂😀😂😁🤣😁 I love it
Skip sounds like Nate Diaz with that "hmm" how about that!
"Bron in the front!" in the front of the most number of finals losses.
Keng. Of. Ls.= Loses. 😆
Jerry west
@@jazztravis6817 ur thinking of merry west
@@jazztravis6817 😆
Lol
Shannon put his foot in his mouth when he said "He beat the team you were on!!" He forgot that Celtics team with Eddie House beat the brakes off Lebron. This is one of the few times Shannon got owned.
Wasn't it beautiful to watch..🤣🤣🤣
Joy 🔥🔥🔥🔥
That glistening cleavage
UFFF
Christopher Ngo relax
Thank you Joy for the view!!!! Beautiful 😍
Yes
Earl Watson is a lucky man
Earl Watson gonna catch you slippin'
Aaron Jackson wait earl is hitting that🤔😲
Somehow, yup. Joy's got some low self esteem evidently
LeBron also started his career out of high school, while Michael went and won an NCAA title and started his career later, and still outpaces him in almost every single category.
Really? LeBron has more points, rebounds, assists, higher field-goal percentage with less shot-attempts than Jordan, higher 3-point percentage with less shot-attempts than him, 4 rings (only 2 less rings than Jordan), been to the Finals 4 more times than Jordan (10), and he outpaces him in every category? Either you are blind, delusional, or just hating.
Im assuming he means in times it took for him to get there. Like it took jordan less seasons to set the benchmark vs lebrons. Since lebron tends to lead only because of longevity.
if lebron played in the 90es with that type of competition he would have 10 rings easily maybe more
@@NotebookLives Jordan only really played 11 years for the Bulls so he did twice as much in half the time, so that’s the point he’s making.
@@tilemahosmichos8351 Only if he played with Jordan. If he played against him he’d have none! 😆
Like a homeboy said...
Micheal Jordan: “G.O.A.T” THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME!!!
lebron: (goat) “go on another team”
#fax
Thats good stuff ha
Kareem Abdul Jabbar is the GOAT.
@@IAMUNUAMI no lol
Lol the hypocrisy from Shannon. He loves to marginalize Jordan's rings but whenever Tony Gonzalez comes on the show and they debate who was the better TE, the very first argument Shannon goes to is the "I have rings and you dont" argument
Jorge Bill Russell played in an era where there was no free agency. Nice try though
Antonio Sanders Bill Russells stats and individual accomplishments and accolades are nowhere in the same stratosphere as Jordan... Also Bill Russell was not even the best player on that team all 11..?
Antonio Sanders Thank you... When LeBron has a scrub team he needs more help and doesn't have the firepower to beat the legendary Spurs... But the same exact thing happens to Jordan vs the Legendary Celtics... He lost in the first round and got swept.... Lucky for LeBron he never faced the Spurs in the first round of the playoffs because he was in the east and not the west... If they were in the same conference the same exact thing would take place just like in the finals
Joy out here looking like a uncontested rebound
Shawn Pope 😂😂😂😂😂😂
That thang on fleet
Lol
Lol
Fun Fact: Russel Westbrook Averages 7 uncontested rebounds a game.
lol. THE SPURS DIDN'T SAY THAT ABOUT LEBRON JAMES WHEN THEY SWEPT HIM IN THE FINALS.
"This Is Going To Be Your League In A Little While. But I Appreciate You Giving It To Us This Year.” Look it up
You all know damn well if Jordan had not left to play baseball the would have won 8 straight NBA championships, get it right haters
Rockets fans get mad at me when I tell them they should thank Jordan for those Chips
Not against Olajuwon's Rockets 🚀
@@dumisatonyjohnson8145 LMFAO. Only reason Houston won those 2 chips is cause jordan was outta the league, and I know it. Houston should have made 2 rings for jordan
@@dumisatonyjohnson8145 everytime Olajuwon looks at those two rings he has to call and thank Jordan
Juan Tijerina... As much as I like MJ, he wouldn’t have won 8 straight championships. He lost the fire and had “nothing to prove”, his own words. MJ had to leave to regain it. Without the fire and passion, he would’ve lost to hungrier teams. 95 Rockets who beat Shaq’s Magic 4-0 in the Final would’ve been MJ’s toughest Finals competition ever. MJ is the GOAT but it’s not impossible. And Rodman didn’t join till 96.
Skip just completely shut down the goat debate. The truth hurts. MJ = GOAT
@@cincyohio1946 That shows, that you have no understanding in Basketball... Because you don't like someone doesn't make him trash. That's a mindset of "trash-people" ;-)
Mj the goat
wasabi 1337 MJ not the goat . Kareem is the Goat .
I mean unless he gets 2 more rings and about 1 more mvp u can say he’s right here there with him 🤷🏾♂️ I mean u can say he’s better cuz if achievements and records his broken
Wrong answer, Kareem Abdul Jabbar is the GOAT.
Players who averaged more points than LeBron in the finals: 1. Tony Parker 2. Nowitzki 3. Jason Terry (breh) 4. Wade 5. Bosh 6. KD(twice)
Players who averaged more points than Jordan in the finals: ......pending......
0
and how many times mj lead both teams in all categories in the finals what for what what for it oh wait never
Jason Terry! Ha! That was a funny playoffs. "Now we need to see if (the great) LeBron James can stop Jason Terry!"
He couldn't. And he couldn't score either.
@Daniel E wow with all the stuff you could come back you use that one lol no game 7 so dose MJ rings count for more THEN RUSSEL C THEY went to game 7 and won 11 dose it beat Horry who won 7 rings his games went to game 7 to still more then MJ 6 so go on with your made up stats
Derrick L Green Lebron does that a lot while he's losing finals 💀
I know right, because assists, rebounds, efficiency, etc don't matter at all. basketball is all about points, which is why Carmelo Anthony the true goat
Skips face when House mentioned LJ could get a defensive POY😂😂😂
Yes skip you did your research and killed him 😂😂
Defensive MVP, 10 tines scoring champ, 6-0 in the finals 2 3peats flawless individual
Nick Smith And Chicago become champions for the first time in franchise history .
bro LeBron is so desperate to catch the 🐐
II 3 peats, *no one will ever eclipse that* .
@@esmooth300 LeBron can't even put one together
Really struggle to see how Le Brons name gets mentioned next to The Goat. Bulls come so close to makeing finals with a absolute rubbish team and only one player in MJ. There’s was absolutely no other player helping at both ends of court!!!!
Joy the Goat with them bigohbits 😂
Lonnie White facts
Black Like History yessss
She bad fam
They fake. Look awful
Don't view her as an object. smh
I’m convinced Shannon Sharpe is on Lebron James’ payroll. Lol
He's on LeBron James' _something..._ 👀
Mj been. Gone. 25. Yrs. An. His. Name. Still. Reigns. What does that. Tell. You. Jordan is. The. GOAT. Number 1. Period.!!!!!--!!
Shannon. Don't believe. Lie.
Hahaha he paid for this..lol
@@digable_celestial_dwarfs6778 😂😂😂
Micheal beats him in
Eye test ✔
Killer instinct ✔
Rings ✔
Perfection ✔
Tougher era ✔
Leadership ✔
Heart ✔
Defense ✔
Personality ✔
Shoe sales (22 years retired) ✔
IQ level ✔
Net worth ✔
Popularity (see shoe sales ) ✔
Joy brought the basketballs to the set..i see u girl.
Joy if u let me ill tose ur salad.nd the box
😂😂
Shannon Sharpe is to emotional with his love for Lebron that can't be objective and therefore has to disrespect Jordan's greatness in order to fit a narrative that is weak and flawed.
Greatness? Not a word I associate with Jordan. Nothing compared to my King
Cincy 513 kinda weird for you to say that about another grown man.
@@cincyohio1946 *QUEEN
Michael D. Lancaster yall jordan diccriders do the same thing with jordan
@@whatchuon6816 its all the same don't even matter each person will try to destroy the other players Legacy while trying to build up their own favorite players Legacy
I've never agreed with Skip more.
3:30 LeBron ain't in the back! Lebron in the front!!! Lmao comedic genius
How can House keep a straight face sitting across from Joy ...
Jason Puch Because he's getting head under the table. He's set
Shannon Let me answer your question.
Lebron James played with Ben Wallace, who is a 4 TIME Defensive Player of the Year.
Ben Wallace was 33-34 years old when he played with Lebron for 2 years
Dennis Rodman was 35-37 when he played with Jordan.
So Shannon, PLEASE dead that argument.
massdagod truth
Thing is though, Dennis rodman was better than ben and you know, wasn't over the hill, while ben clearly was washed
The real arguement is that MJ had Phil Jackson while Lebron really never had the mentor that Kobe or MJ did...
@@realgilla108 Lebron doesn't want to coached...he thinks he's smarter than any coach...but he lost 6 finals, I guess he's not that smart....Phil wasn't a mentor....MJ was great before Phil was the head coach
@@realgilla108 lebron follows no coach... LoL he is uncoachable
It was much easier for Scottie pippen to lead the Chicago bulls when Michael Jordan retired because they already had an established head coach, they had an established offense and they had players already on the team who fit the offense Phil Jackson wanted to run...
When LeBron James leaves a team that team falls apart because they rely on him alone to run the offense because they don't really have an offense...
I don't know what point you're trying to make but you basically made the point that LeBron's better because he is the team. Jordan's team is good with or without him. LeGoat 🐐👑
@@anon2414 no the point I'm making is Jordan allowed the organization to do what the organization needed to do. Just because LeBron James is able to hijack an organization to the point where they fall apart and become nothing when he's gone does not make him a better basketball player...
When he left Cleveland Kyrie had already left. Kevin Love had been neutered during his time in Cleveland to the point that getting back to the player that he was virtually impossible. It’s like having muscles atrophy from not being used for years.
@@cycleoflife565 okay but the same thing happened for obvious reasons when he left Cleveland the first time LOL. But Miami kind of went in the toilet too and the Lakers struggle when he's out...
Don't get me wrong they're going to struggle without their best player but there's too much of a drop off when he's gone...
Joy Is Lookin Like A DAMN MEAL.
Skip killed sharp😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Lebron - GOAT - Going On Another Team
That's pretty good
Pretty bad
@@philohlrogge4207 butthurt
Phil Ohlrogge it’s good because he quit twice on his team. Can’t get pass old Celtics(boom Miami) Can’t get pass old Spurs (boom Cavs). Don’t say the dude got no help he had 14 all stars teammates in total.
😭😭😭🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂😂best comment hands down🙌🙌🙌🙌😤
13:43 shannon was too emotional even got the facts wrong 😂😂 "he beat your team he beat your team "
Thank You SKIIIIP!!!
When I first heard someone say Lebron is better than Jordan, I thought they were joking. Jordan is better without question. Jordan has:
- 3 more rings
- 3 more finals MVP
- 2 3-peats
- 1 more season MVP
- 4 more All-defensive 1st teams
- 3 more All-defensive teams (total selection)
- Won a DPOY (Lebron never did this)
- 9 more Scoring Leaders
- Won Steals leader 3 times (Lebron never won one)
- Lebron took longer than Jordan to reach his playoff points record
- Jordan never scored less than 22 points in a finals game. Lebron melted down in 2011 vs. mavs (8 points in 1 game), 2014 vs. spurs (air conditioning), and 2018 vs. warriors (0-4)
- Beat 20 50+ win teams in the playoffs (lebron only beat 10)
- Jordan never AVGed under 40% FG in the finals (Lebron did twice)
- Jordan never had a teammate who AVGed over 22 points in the finals (Kyrie Irving scored 27.1ppg in 2016 finals)
- Jordan is the only player ever to lead a team to the finals with only one other teammate (Scottie Pippen) AVGing double digits in scoring
- Jordan never allowed a game 7 in the finals. Lebron's 2016 finals win was a 4 point difference in a game 7.
- Lebron scored 30 pts 416 times in 1,117 games. Jordan did it 562 times in 1,072 games
- Jordan is undefeated in the finals with 6 wins and Lebron has lost 6 times and only won 3 times
- Jordan has had 100 blocks and 200 steals in the same season, then did it again the next year
- Has had 5 playoff series averaging at least 40 ppg
- Highest scoring avg in any finals ever: 41 ppg vs. Charles Barkley's Suns in '93
- Only rookie ever to lead his team in 4 stats
- Only player ever to lead in scoring, win MVP, and DPOY all in the same season
- Only player ever to lead in scoring and win finals in the same season more than once, and he did it 6 times
- 1 of 2 players ever to drop 3,000 points in 1 season, only other player is Wilt Chamberlain
- Only player to score over 40 pts at age 40 (he did it twice)
- Earned All Star Game MVP, NBA scoring leader, League MVP, and DPOY in the same year ('88)
- Jordan's AVG playoff PER of 28.6 is above Lebron's 28.28. In fact, MJ has the highest playoff PER ever.
- Jordan's peak PER of 31.71 is above Lebron's 31.67. Jordan also has the highest peak PER ever.
- Jordan in 88-89 averaged 32ppg, 8apg, 8rpg, 3spg off 54% shooting. LeBron never came close to this stat line.
- Playoffs stats:
- Jordan AVGs 33.4 points over Lebron's 28.9
- Jordan AVGs 2.1 Steals over Lebron's 1.8
- Jordan has better Free Throws at 82.8% over Lebron's 74.3% (almost 10% difference)
- Best Playoff Season:
- Jordan's playoff season record for PPG is 43.7 over Lebron's 35.3 (over 8 points)
- Jordan's playoff season record for SPG is 2.8 over Bron's 2.3
- Jordan's playoff season record for BPG is 2.3 over Bron's 1.8
- AVGs 1.6 offensive rebounds total career over Bron's 1.2
- In only 11 seasons with the Bulls:
- 10 scoring titles
- Won DPOY
- 9x All-defensive team
- 9x All-NBA
- 5 league MVPs
- 6 Finals MVPs
Is the choice obvious now?
PLUS, he had his number retired on a team that he didn't even play for. The team that Lebron went to. That's why he couldn't wear it.
3 years later and still no one can dispute that 😂
no
Factz
This was insanely cringe
this is the only thing this show talks about and it’s always the same argument with skip
Jorge 1.4
It’s always the same argument with LeShannon.
Leshannon be right tho SS4
Nate lol no he’s not
Justin Peralta download satellite radio why better topics from those guys
Eddie house whaat. This dude went on one of the most savage scoring streaks in a game that I ever saw. In college. It's always stood out to me over the years
3:02 How do you keep a straight face after that? Lmao
Chris Broussard said it best ..... when Mike started wining rings nooooooBody else ate chips(rings) during that time...!!! But during Lebron chip run, there has been a lot of eating
Tim Duncan - ate (twice)
Dirk Nowitski - ate
STeph/Klay/Draymond - ate
KD - ate ......
Mike left a lot of people hungry for chips during his run ... Nuff said !!!
That’s true but the game wasn’t like how it is now. And Bron still eating don’t act like he not
Ya but the game was a little tougher back in the day but LeBron hasn't had the supporting cast. Both are amazing. Just my two cents
David Lee lbj has a supporting cast. He has TT who can give u rebounds, 3 point shooter JR and Korvor, k love can give u points and rebounds. Thats a good team. It's because of lbj system that limit those players to jump shooters. That's why for years we always here lbj has no help
The finals competition is way better than back then. Spurs and Gsw was better than any team jordan faced lets be honest. 4 all stars in prime on one team.
A Cato C spurs team u said😂😂. Better than 93 suns, 96 sonics or 98 jazz. What about this fact mj never lost to a team who had only 1 all star.
Jordan vs LeBron
Updated after Lebrons 14th season. Michael Jordan has:
•3 more rings
•3 more final mvps
•1 more DPOY
•1 more season MVP
•9 more scoring titles
•3 more steals leader
•3 more all defensive team selections
•4000 more points / bron moved past him in playoff points, but it took him longer.
•800 more steals
•Beat 20 50+ win teams in the playoffs (Lebron only defeated 10)
•Jordan never averaged less than 40% Field Goal in the finals
Lebron did it twice
•6/6 (never allowed a game 7)
•Lebron had much more offensive help, example:
Jordan never had a teammate average more than 22 points in the finals.. In fact, Mj is Only player in NBA history to lead a team to the championship with only one teammate averaging double figures in scoring
* In the Bulls’ 1997 playoff run, Scottie Pippen averaged 19 points per game on 42% shooting. All other teammates of Jordan averaged under 8 points per game
Kyrie averaged over 28 and DWade averaged more than 26
•MJ never ever had a finals meltdown like Lebron in 2011 against the Mavs
•MJ had more points in the playoffs in less games..
MJ accomplished all of this in 13 seasons
Lebron after his 14th season, is still chasing the “ghost (GOAT) that played in Chicago”
•Michael Jordan in the playoffs has put up atleast 40ppg, 5rpg, 5apg in 6 different playoff series. Along with an average of about 55% shooting, 3spg and 2bpg.
(86 vs bos, 89 vs cavs, 90 vs philly, 92 vs Miami, 93 vs Phoenix, 88 vs cavs) Jordan won every one of those matchups except for the 1986 matchup vs the celtics.
•Jordan in 88-89 averaged 32ppg, 8apg, 8rpg, 3spg off 54% shooting. LeBron has never even came close to this stat line.
•in 87 thru 92, MJ averaged 5 straight seasons of atleast 51% FG shooting. LeBron has never done this.
•the lowest FT% MJ ever shot in a season was 78%. Lebrons highest in a season ever is 78%.
•MJ has a higher playoff FG% of 48.7% to Lebrons 48.3%
•MJ has a higher playoff player efficiency rating of 28.6 to Lebrons 27.3.
•MJ shoots a higher playoff 3 point percentage of 33.2% to Lebrons 32.9%
•LeBron James has scored 30 points, 416 times in 1,117 games.
Michael Jordan did it 562 times in 1,072 games.
Jordan won 6 championships without losing a final in 1,072 games and LeBron in 1,117 games has lost 5 times and has only won 3 times (updated 2018)
•MJ also shocked the league by being the first (and only) player to have 100 blocks and 200 steals in the same season, then turned around and did it again the next year..
•Mj also has more career blocks (893) than Lebron James (853) despite playing in 22 LESS career games and being the smaller guy.
Also, MJ averaged 1.6 blocks per game in the 1987-88 season which is absolutely bonkers for a 6’6″ shooting guard.
Seriously this list can keep going. This isn’t even a debate. Mj is the GOAT.
MIchael Jordan:
•NBA record 5 playoffs series’ averaging atleast 40ppg
•Only player in history to lead league in scoring and win DPOY
•Highest scoring average, points per game, in any championship series:
41.0 vs. Phoenix Suns, 1993 NBA Finals
•Only rookie in NBA history to lead his team in four statistics (1984-85)
•Only player in NBA history to lead the league in scoring, win Most Valuable Player, and Defensive Player of the Year in the same season (1987-88)
•Only player in history to average at least 30pts 6reb 5assists And 2 steals per game AND HE DID IT 7 TIMES.
•Only player in NBA history to win Rookie of the Year (1984-85), Defensive Player of the Year (1987-88), NBA MVP (1987-88, 1990-91, 1991-92, 1995-96, 1997-98), All-Star MVP (1988, 1996, 1998), and Finals MVP (1991, 1992, 1993, 1996, 1997, 1998)
•Only player in NBA history to lead the league in scoring and win the NBA championship MORE THAN ONCE in the same season
* He did this SIX TIMES!! (1990-91, 1991-92, 1992-93, 1995-96, 1996-97, 1997-98)
•One of two players in NBA history to score 3,000 points in a season: 3,041 points scored in 82 games played (37.1 ppg) (1986-87)
* Wilt Chamberlain is the only other player to achieve this.
•MJ is also the only player in NBA history to score over 40 points at age 40, and he did it twice!
•In 1988, MJ earned: Dunk Champ, All Star Game MVP, NBA Scoring Title, League MVP and Defensive Player of the Year.
Michael in only ELEVEN complete seasons with the Bulls:
-10 scoring titles,
-Won Defensive Player of the Year,
-9 times all defensive team,
-9time All NBA,
-5 league MVPs
-6 finals MVPs
All 11 seasons. Mj has done in 11 seasons things Lebron hasn’t done and won’t do in his whole career…
Remind me again...who is the GOAT?
313ado Lebron
313ado LeBron fans: "BuT HE wAS 1-9 iN tHE Playoffs
DAMN! MJ all the Way!!! Not even Close!!!!
313ado 1/9 playoffs
3 first round exits
Killers on defensive side lebrons good teammates only played offense, Kyrie, Wade, love, James Jones.
Mj had killers defensively Horace grant, pippen, dennis.
LeBron only players to have total 30k 8k and 8k. I'll remind you LBJ the goat
Ninito-_- DaNoob that's all you got?
MJ never got tired to the point it affected his excellence ...
Exactly. Kobe. Either
And there was one playoff game against the Spurs in 1976 where Julius dropped iirc 46 points, 24 rebounds and I believe 6 blocks to go along with 8 assists. Julius unlike LeBron-always played better as the level of competition went up.
Joy > MJ
Carlos Ferreira 😂
Joy looking like Christmas dinner.
You need to stop
Facts
Sheut.... you mean halloween candy
Joy looks better than molly
8:50 a Hugh Hollins away lol
How come nobody’s talking about international competition record? To be the best in the planet you have to check their records against international completion.
Damn shannon got murdered
Can we just take a second and appreciate Joy’s beauty 😍
I come back to the old Undisputed videos to see Joy Taylor 😍
Bro Joy was quiet the whole time, she only started talking when Shannon asked her a question 😍😍😍
Damn Joy lookin fine
Jordan had killer mentality. He was much more confident than James. Watching MJ on the court was like a paradise-like summer vacation.
Please stop this foolish goat . nonsense, cause basketball is a team
@@abuabdullah8545 Jordan played in triangle and averaged 6 a game ... he had 11 assists a game in the 90s finals lol when he was coming off doug collings
Why do his stats go down when it matters and lebron has more buzzer beaters?
@@pjwright3773 he played way longer
@@bradlyfan still has a higher eog shooting percentage no Matter how many seasons. This clutch and killer mentality thing is a nostalgia and great marketing
“When ray hit that shot on Skip Bayless”
I’m dead.
If that really had happened, Skip would've loves it and brag and cherished the time when Ray Allen scored on him for the rest of his life 😂
In 1998, Isaiah was one of the analyst of the game, and Isaiah Thomas said, after Jordan made the last shot against Russell, you got to get the ball out of Jordan's hands, and Isaiah I quote, said, Jordan's the greatest, and then he said but what about Kareem, and then he said, Kareem's the best, Isaiah talks a lot
Joy is the GOAT
Skip killed Shannon with the stats
Don’t even try it LeBron not even close in GOAT conversation
Yh he already there 1-9
Also back then they played back to back games
House: You can’t go to the finals ever year
Shannon: Lebron going!
House: Not Every year
Shannon: 8 in a row
House: But that ain’t every year
That part had me rolling 👌🏽🤣
But what about the other 7?
So Lebron's body of work says he is the GOAT, Shannon? What exactly is LeBron's body of work? Play for 20 years? Bunch of rebounds and assists? Bunch of finals appearances? That doesn't make him the GOAT. LOL. Jordan consistently dominated at both ends of the floor as a SHOOTING GUARD, and his determination and will to win was unrivalled. In his prime he won the championship in EVERY FULL SEASON HE PLAYED.
Some Guy play defense lebron
Some Guy agreed, it's gonna take more than a few deranged, not really basketball fans to make LBJ be the goat.
How about not quitting on your guy LBJ
@@scope1767 of quitting on his team , missing more shots and committing more turnovers than anyone in the finals, and having a losing finals record
@@dandreclay8821 LeBron will go down as the greatest individual player in history. Get mad.
I honestly believe that Shannon has so much love for LeBron that his ego just won't let him admit that MJ is in fact a better historical player.
Phil Jackson said in todays Basketball MJ would easily make 45 Points per Game. Lebron wrote in his book that he lost together with Dwain Wayde and Chris Bosh vs the Mavericks. Any Questions?
Skip and Eddie House killed Shannon on this debate.
They Straight up SLAUGHTERED HIM LMAO 😄😄😄😄😄
Not really
@@philohlrogge4207 really? Would you rather here a comment from a guy who just watches LBJ play or a guy who played with LBJ and learned as well from guys who played against both LBJ and MJ? Pick your poison man cause you keep on defending your king like shannon sharpe but are not even looking at reality
All Shannon did to fire back was scream nonsense 😂.
He can't argue FACTS 💯💯💯💯 I LOVE LEBRON BUT MJ IS THE GOAT!!!
MJ laughing at this
The best debate yet
Mike was the greatest from Day one, Mike never disappeared in the big moment
MICHAEL JEFFREY JORDAN....THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME
PERIOD
Wrong answer, Kareem Abdul Jabbar aka "Sky Hook."
@@IAMUNUAMI Kareem definitely has an argument for being the goat, Kareem has just as many rings and his accolades are just as good as Jordans, lebrt is not the goat tho, Kareem and Jordan were greater than LeBron
YES IF I COULD BE LIKE MIKE ‼️
Am I the only person that was staring at joy taylor?
Definitely not
I was with you! 😮
All hall thirsty
Bruh I was staring the whole time no lie
No, you are not.
10:45 Eddie looked so disappointed lol 😂😂😂. Very honest tho
Shay: I disagree with you Eddie House!!🤣🤣
Ugh. This is getting old.
hodgek1998 don’t watch, what’s up with you virgins literally reading the title, realizing what it’s about and still watching and commenting like wtf?
Demarcus Jackson lol
Yes it is..one is more accomplished and the other is more dominant in HIS ERA..bottomline
hodgek1998 it was old last year
hodgek1998 real old
Remember when Kobe was still playing and everybody was comparing him to Jordan. Then Kobe retired and everybody forgot about him. Now everybody is comparing LeBron to Jordan. And when LeBron retires, we'll find somebody else to compare to Jordan.
Jimmy C True but Kobe is better than Lebron
Curry will be next
I just told someone the same exact thing wow lol #RealTalk
And I’m a Kobe fan but I said this lol because I’ve witnessed this!
So true man!!!!! this will happen again for sure after lebron retired... comeback to your comment when lebron retired and they will compare the new star player with jordan again not with lebron...... thats FACTS!!!!
MJ 2times DUNK CHAMPION. LBJ 3TIMES SLAM DUNK BACKING OUT 😂😂😂
Skip murdered this debate
Shannon your'e done here.
Nope he is right here
He sound like a straight FANBOY😂😂😂💯
Taran Curry hahaha yeah
Taran Curry he sleeps with lebron pillow and blankets
@@BlackBBQChicken1998 😂😂😂
MJ - 6 titles, 6 Finals MVP, 5 NBA MVP, DPOY, x10 scoring champ, x3 Steals leader, x9 NBA 1st Defensive team (13 season)
LBJ - x3 titles, x3 finals MVP, x4 NBA MVP, x1 scoring champ, x5 All defensive 1st team (15+ seasons)
Riiiiiight, it's close Shannon.
FYI - Just because you lead your team in stats, don't make you great, all that proves is he is NOT willing to relinquish certain aspects of the game to his teammates because he WANTS those STATS!, if you have ever played pro, you will know that if you're not a star, you will need to accomodate the STAR.
Also making the finals repeatedly means jack-all, Jerry West made it 9 times, magic made it 9 times etc, when you lose in the finals, it just means you were great in that respective conference, that's it - doesn't mean you're second best/third etc.
How many DPOY did LBJ play with Shannon?? Ben Wallace rings a bell?? x4 DPOY x5 1st Defence team, x2 Rebounds leader, Blocks leader....so yeah, I think Ben Wallace is like the Rodman of that period.
Only thing LBJ is close to right now is his retirement.
G thank you very much
The funny thing was you thought that last sentence was clever you just look stupid
What's even funnier is you think that pic would make an awesome dp
G THANKYOU SIR... LOL
I like the last line... "Only thing LBJ is close to right now is his retirement."
Peace!
I love skipp bayless 😹😹😹
9:50 have a great day😂😂😂
Finally Shannon argument gets exposed on this topic
MINK Skip is too dumb to do so
Ik
Only thing that got exposed was the obvious. MJ stans treat that guy like a deity, they didn’t do nothing but counter Shannon with more questions after he asked them some. That’s a sign of blind witnessing, kind of like a cult.
Nate
Compare the stats, PER, and accomplishments. Jordan is STILL better. The networks are having a hard time swaying Lebron James is the GOAT because he doesn't have the overall stats and accomplishments to prove that he is. It is what it is.
Nate the irony of your comment is through the roof
I have no idea what they were talking about. I just seen Joy 🤗😍
It really depends on which style you like. MJ was an aggressive slasher. Lebron is strongest when he facilitates. It all depends on which style you think is best for winning.
Awsomeee Show 👍👍👍😅😀
1.M. Jordan- undeniable G.O.A.T
2.K. Bryant- ASSASSIN
3.S. O'Neal- DOMINATING
4.M. Johnson- MASTERMIND
5.L. James-? GREAT BUT PASSIVE! Known for shying away from the moment!
I really hate that I have three Lakers in my top 5!
Bellmane .45 Bird is great! And I think he's in the top 10 all-time #6
Bird top 2 for me lol
Then take Shaq out😂😂
Shaq is no way #3 after he left LA he was washed
Lol..list. Garbage
Shannon "There's a neeeew Billy goat in town and his name is one goat James baaah" lmao 😂 I'm dead Shannon is delusional
Lies
That face skip makes talking about LeBron getting an all defense award! lol.
Thank you Eddie
Jordan was more than stats and trophies, he was transcendent, a clutch athlete of near unbreakable proportions. He left for two years and came back like he was never away. Even his Washington years as an individual player, as his 40s dawned, were better than they're given credit for. Even people outside the States know basketball is 'that game Michael Jordan plays'. LeBron James is brilliant, but unless he wins a string of Finals before retiring, he'll never surpass Jordan as the GOAT.
azapro911 Jordan is everything you said and more, did hr played in GSW of the 90's.
Okay skip lol
bigboat Truth is, it's not often that I side with Skip and he clearly does pick on LeBron for the smallest thing, even when he doesn't have to. But when it comes to the basketball GOAT debate, he happens to be absolutely correct.
azapro911 broke 9 times in the first round js
azapro911 now humility should cause Mike to pass the crown to Bron Bron
This was the most hilarious segment. MJ = GOAT. Sit down LeShannon. Eddie is awesome and hilarious
Coming from someone with a tag “jumpman23”; there probably isn’t any sort of confirmation bias operating here.
Facts. MJ the 🐐
@@thedeifiedjulius2310 If Eddie came on here and said Lebron was better, you would of said he was horrible and doesn't know what he is talking about.
Jordan will always be my GOAT
LeBron needed to find teammates and swap teams to win. Michael made it happen at Chicago. Michael stayed with his team, he did a three peat twice. People love basketball because of MJ.
MJ vs LeBron
This is a silly debate. Clearly Michael is better. It's not even a close one. But let's go to the facts. Updated after Lebrons 14th season. Michael Jordan has
•3 more rings
•3 more final mvps
•1 more DPOY
•1 more season MVP
•9 more scoring titles
•3 more steals leader
•3 more all defensive team selections
•4000 more points / bron moved past him in playoff points, but it took him longer lol.
•800 more steals
•Beat 20 50+ win teams in the playoffs (Lebron only defeated 10)
•Jordan never averaged less than 40% Field Goal in the finals
Lebron did it twice
•6/6 (never allowed a game 7)
•Lebron had much more help
•Jordan never had a teammate averaged more than 22 points in the finals..
Kyrie averaged over 28 and DWade averaged more than 26
•MJ never ever had a finals meltdown like Lebron in 2011 against the Mavs
•MJ had more points in the playoffs in less games..
All of this accomplished in 13 seasons
Lebron is in his 14th season still chasing the "ghost that played in Chicago"
•Michael Jordan in the playoffs has put up atleast 40ppg, 5rpg, 5apg in 6 different playoff series. Along with an average of about 55% shooting, 3spg and 2bpg.
(86 vs bos, 89 vs cavs, 90 vs philly, 92 vs Miami, 93 vs Phoenix, 88 vs cavs) Jordan won every one of those matchups except for the 1986 matchup vs the celtics.
•Jordan in 88-89 averaged 32ppg, 8apg, 8rpg, 3spg off 54% shooting. LeBron has never even came close to this stat line.
•in 87 thru 92, MJ averaged 5 straight seasons of atleast 51% FG shooting. LeBron has never done this.
•the lowest FT% MJ ever shot in a season was 78%. Lebrons highest in a season ever is 78%.
•MJ has a higher playoff FG% of 48.7% to Lebrons 48.3%
•MJ has a higher playoff player efficiency rating of 28.6 to Lebrons 27.3.
•MJ shoots a higher playoff 3 point percentage of 33.2% to Lebrons 32.9%
•MJ also shocked the league by being the first (and only) player to have 100 blocks and 200 steals in the same season, then turned around and did it again the next year..
Seriously this list can keep going. This isn't even a debate. Mj is the GOAT.
Michael in only ELEVEN complete seasons with the Bulls:
-10 STRAIGHT scoring titles,
-Won Defensive Player of the Year,
-9 times all defensive team,
-9time All NBA,
-5 league MVPs
-6 finals MVPs
LBJ missed the playoffs completely in his first 2 years. Jordan didnt with scrubs on his squad. Jordan played 82 games 9 times in his career once at 40. LBJ only played 82 games once. In 89 Jordan won the scoring title all star MVP slam dunk title regular season MVP and Defensive Player of The year something LBJ has never done. Jordan also averaged 41 pts a game for an entire Finals shootimg 50% and won. Something else LBJ never did.
All 11 seasons. Mj has done in 11 seasons things Lebron hasn’t done and won’t do in his whole career...
And before you criticize me for copy and pasting just know that it doesn’t matter if it’s copied or not, truth is truth.
Check Mate.
Pretty impressive stat sheet. Of course one would know MJ was the goat fairly instantly without knowing all these stats just by comparing everyday typical plays in an 82 game season, year in year out. It is THE WAY he did things that sets him far apart from everybody else in line (as (larry bird > lbj) basically called him god before he ever won a championship).. There is this, and it describes visually what i am talking about czcams.com/video/cWlCdvact5E/video.html
You're 100% correct, great video and beautiful to watch
I dare anyone to show me any basketball footage as visually stunning..It just doesn't exist..it was routine for this guy..GOAT and not even close..
Who did Jordan beat in the Finals?
91: Last good "Showtime" team, a 58 win Lakers team
92: The dominant team of the West at the time, a 57 win Trail Blazers team
93: Beat a stacked 62 win Suns team (After upsetting the #1 seed in the East, a 60 win Knicks team)
96: Beat a 64 win Sonics team
97: Beat another 64 win team in Utah
98: Beat Utah again who won 62 games this time
LeBron of course beat that historic 73 win Warriors team.
His other Rings:
2012: The 47 win Thunder team in a truncated season, they were on pace to win 58 in a full season
2013: A 58 win Spurs team
In both those cases those teams were the 2nd seeds so he avoided playing the best team from the West in 2 of his 3 championships.
For Jordan only his 1st over the 2nd seeded Lakers did he not face the best team from the West those series.
In 07 he lost to the 3rd seeded Spurs (58 Wins), in 11 lost to the 3rd seeded Mavs (57), in 14 lost to the #1 seed Spurs (62), and now in the 15 and 17 losses to the Warriors they were the #1 Seed with 67 both seasons so those were great teams.
So yeah these last 3 seasons going against the GSWs he has run into great teams but his other 2 were against only decent teams and he lost 2 to lack luster teams and 1 against a very good but not amazing Spurs team.
However in his first 5 finals the quality was overall weaker than Jordan's 6 and LeBron went 2-3 in those series.
I would not ding him hard for not being able to beat those great Warrior teams but you sure can for being below 0.500 in those other 5 seasons.
Massachusetts Sports Central lebron plays in girls nba Jordan played men’s nba and he couldn’t go against a higher winning team cuz he was on it 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥MJ the goat period 👋👌
Nice. Bottom line that never gets talked about: He's been swept twice and he's the G.O.A.T? Iverson and Dame can get you one.
Lebron never had to go against defensive greats such as Akeem, Shawn Kemp, Patrick Ewing, Shaq, Kobe, Dennis rodman, etc. Plus Bron always had a supporting cast of teammates he played with.
Rodman and Pippen were defensive warriors not mainly scorers like Kyrie Ervin, Chris Bosh, Kevin Love, Russel Westbrook, Rondo, Dwayne Wade, Danny Green, Carmelo Anthony, and Anthony Davis whom LeBron have had as teammates.
If Jordan had played with Shaq or Akeem because the Bulls never had a real effective Big Man and/or Larry Bird or Magic then this conversation would be totally different.
Jordan is the 🐐
And still he still in the goat conversation still in 20 th year no matter if you have a 3 paragraph on hating on lbj 🤣
John Stockton guarding Jordan in 1st quarter of the NBA finals. Jeff Hornacek guarding Jordan in the NBA finals. Howard Isley, guarding Jordan and the NBA finals. Bryon Russell, guarding Jordan and the NBA finals. None of these players were able to guard Jordan as they were not athletically, gifted enough. John Starks was 6’3”. Clyde Drexler could not use his left hand. Detlef Schrempf was the best small forward in the league at the time. Nowhere near as gifted as Kevin Durant is, or was. Jordan is great. But who was the second best guards and forwards in the league? The second best guards and forwards are not better than the second best guards and forwards in the league today.
Skip absolutely nails this argument. what casual basketball fans don't understand is this: yes, Lebron is the better passer and rebounder, but not by as big a margin as people think. and, yes, MJ is the better scorer and defender than Lebron, but by a bigger margin than people think. it's MJ, and it ain't close.
isaiah thomas on nba finals commentary said jordan was the greatest , best player of all times .. shannon sharpe knows it
Actually it's only bronsexuals comparing LeBron to MJ.
Lol. That is funny. Not P.C., but funny. I'm not big on P.C. anyway. Jordan = GOAT.
Word
pipen once said LeBrons the goat
tariq podolski Pippen also suffers from dementia so....
😂😂😂😂Bronsexuals
Shannon don't want to hear aboy isaiah and Jordan's story 😂😂😂
You don't have to like Skip but he just dropped facts. It's not close
When Eddie did that hand slap I cracked up. He spanked Sharpe.
I love that joy is getting in on the arguments in this segment but she gotta do it more.
she knows her stuff
Joy don't know nothing man believe me
Skip got the W on this one...
Easy work!!!!
L
Shannon will never live down that embarrassing L
Skip wins! Boom!
I need a close caption option when Shannon speaks