⚠️ This Thing Was NOT Easy To Work On
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- čas přidán 15. 07. 2023
- In today's video Taryl tackles this nightmare electric parking brake on this Toro Time waster, I mean Time Cutter mower. See what all this thing controls and how much of a pain in the BUTT it is to get at. Another fun, yet informative video from your pals at Grass Rats Garage! And as always... There's Your Dinner!!
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I would like to know where you got the die electric grease in a dispenser style can at !!!
CINNERMAN TOAST CUNCH
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Hello Taryl, I like the way you fix the mower. What you did to the Zero turn I did the same thing to a bucket truck that had intermittent cycle issues. Fixed it the same way you did Taryl. I also added three wires that were over a hundred foot long. Boom height is 90 foot. What I would like to know from you is what brand would you suggest to purchase that is used ??? I want to keep the costs on the lower side. Thank you for your time and I enjoy the video show. Keep on doing what you do Taryl. My I suggest you do a few better brands to purchase for the average homeowner Sir.
Good day Sir. vf
The electronic parking brake on a lawnmower. The solution to a problem that never existed. 😒😒😒
Anybody that tries to save people money has my respect!
He could have maybe found a used connector fleebay.. I'm sure he looked though.
People that make videos so people like me can take someone else's junk, fix it and make a few bucks while helping people like me are the real heroes. First year I did window ACs I bought for $2 each I was able to buy a Ford Ranger and give away 56 here in New Hampshire. Now I do whatever I get my hands on from bicycles, lawnmowers, furniture and appliances to reclaiming wood and fixing cars. I'm not rich but I'll never go without.
Its not always about money, its about doing stuff, building, repairing and getting dirtyhands, . Did I mention cussing out engineers?
its hard to find repair shops like Taryl's. Most of them will not think outside the box to do the right thing.
Another great video Taryl! My father turned me on to your channel and I have enjoyed your content. He sadly passed this past Wed of cancer, but I want to thank you for giving us both a lot of laughs during the late stage of his journey. He was a grass rat to the max!
Respectfully,
Josh
Sorry to hear about your pops. May he rest in peace. 🙏
My sincere sympathy.
I'm so sorry for you Josh. my empathy to you! total stranger.
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It comes for us all.. There is no escape.
I have the exact same mower
With the exact same problem.
To me a hand brake isn't worth $200
I ended up just disconnecting the linkage arms and zip tied them outta the way 😂
Also my name IS timmy😊
Now those shops that sell Toro equipment will buy those replacement terminals, fix the wire harness with the new terminals and charge the customer for a new wire harness. You know it's gonna happen.
Now there's an example of some world class design and engineering !!! lol
need a bonus video of how to bypass the whole dang thing
10 - 4 I hear you.. what a nightmare, if a person does this repair make sure you have enough beer and captain Morgan on hand and your favorite music.
I tried the bypass videos on my SW 5000. Could get everything working except clutch engage.
As clean as that Toro looks I suspect the owner power washes it often. That I suspect caused the corrosion on that connector.
yes, it's best to not spray water at anything. many things are designed to shed rain, and they don't do a great job of doing that
I clean my mowers with the air gun.
Or a leaf blower!👍
A simple weather-pak connector would have solved this problem. Way to go Toro!
I thought they only put that electronic parking brake crap on new cars! Crazy 😵💫 Great work around to save the customer money on the wiring harness Taryl.
Everything is over engineered with built in obsolescence, how does connectors rot away? brass does not rot away.
@@tonysheerness2427 connectors are aluminum or tin steel, cheaper than the brass ones companies used to use.
I think I'd figure out a way to bypass that parking brake module and either do without a parking brake or make up some kind of mechanical lever system to apply the parking brake. Nice factory like fix by Taryl though.
There is a work around. I believe I picked up on it through youtube, or one of those chat links a few years ago. It involved dumping the unit and living without parking brakes....
@@JM-yx1lm 2010 wiring harness is set up for manual park brake.
@@JM-yx1lm We need to go back to electro-mechanical controls and ditch the stupid electronic crap. My Deere X-370 is needing a new ECM, $330.00 at the dealer (the only place you can get it). Yes, it controls EVERYTHING, and without it, the mower will not run. I'm all for every safety feature built in to the machine, but it's ridiculous to route every circuit thru ONE module. Seven years old, 240 hours and it's already busted. Poor quality electronics, disgusting.
@@santaclause2875 But a big money maker for Deere and Co.
@@georgepruitt637 Correct !!!!
Thanks so much. Spent 5000 total on my Toro Myride with a bagger. I think you saved me some big money and grief in the future. I’m going to by the dielectric grease and do preventative maintenance.
That parking brake was designed by a guy worked on the space shuttle and never saw a lawn mower before. Whiskey Tango Foxtrot.
SNAFU!
FUBAR
Ah yes, the old repin problem, that so many automobiles suffer from. Also, Toro obviously thought "How could we overcomplicate a riding mower?"
Lol so glad my gravely has a manual parking brake. They mad that way more complicated than it needed to be
A note from a former assembly line worker . The engineers would love to build a great machine but it's the bean counters who are in charge and they say get it out the door fast and cheap.
9:00 Those crimps were made by Crimp supply in Clawson Michigan, about 20 minutes from my house. Nice to see we still make stuff here & its not all done overseas! Thanks for supporting a Michigan business. That's the type of company that hires regular people like me to run their machines for good pay. Usually 8-40 person operations.
Great job Toro! Manual handbrake is too difficult!
You not only saved the customer money but yourself as well nice work Taryl respect !
Everyone keep your old school lawn equipment with maintenance up to date bcs just like modern cars nowadays they're nothing but a pile of junk ready to give you the worst headaches of your life's... Love your videos TFA
That's what I do with Wheel Horse. The later series 300,400,500 had some cheap features that Toro put in. The C160 is probably the best tractor they ever built. Then Toro bought Wheel Horse and used up the parts inventory
I got a great deal on a 314 Toro/Wheel Horse and you have to check under the belt guard for failure to the drive belt idler plastic pulley bushing. I had a failure on a 520 and had to adapt an oillite bronze bushing to take up the slop. Thanks Toro
Great how too, I have a toro 54 inch cut. Will be adding dielectic grease to that conector. And my mower sit's in the garage gaurded by me and my german sheperd.
Yes, The GT 150 Series is one of many GM/Delphi connector. While many "car" plugs of all brands are "Weather Resistant," coat terminals and body with silicone grease helps make sure any water that gets in can't cause rust for all. Because the seals often "fail" if wires are bend or pulled sideways near the connector body. Or If installed with wires pointing down even with the cover as above, water can sit and wick down thru any seal.
Dont park machines out in the weather and WD40 is ur friend?
🎶 They don't make it easyyy...they just make it cheesyyy 🎶
My fords largest garden tractor has a parking break. I used it the other day, because I needed it to lift something heavy, important! You slam the break and pull the do-dad. It holds perfect. All these modules, and parts, it's part of the system MAN!! lol Tehehehe 🍺
That Elkskins is a pretty enterprising young man. He's alot smarter than he looks! Kudos Elkskins!!
When I’m finished mowing with my 0 turn I give it an air bath from my air compressor. It gets rid of all the grass and dirt and leaves the mower clean and dry. So I hope that the plug ins don’t get the green crustys.
It would take a real grass rat to unplug and grease all the plug ins on a new mower but maybe you should. With the dialectic grease
Great video. Be careful with that pressure washer.
I had the same problem with my Toro 4225. Luckily it was fixed under warranty. Thanks for all the stuff you show us in your videos.
Great repair job! I do take exception with one little thing. You disconnected the positive battery cable. You should always disconnect the negative cable first. Teaching those grass rats bad practice.
This is why you're the best taryl
You can get those connectors. Toro don't make em. I have bags of them.
Takes a special crimper.
Edit, I figured you'd find em. Commented early on.
I had to fix a harness on a exmark mower. Can't just get that piece. Harness was like 300.00.
Dielectric grease is always your friend.
Give Elkskins a new tub of grease for his shirt. He deserves it after that assistance with that time dragger mower.
A true master at work !
Good thing you have Ole' Elkskin around. He a pretty smart feller to get it able to be loaded. Thanks again Taryl and crew for another great repair.
Does he still work for Taryl? I have not seen him in a while.
If you can fix my Lawnmower I will be as happy as Larry... Woooo hoooo fire it up fire it up... And theres your dinner.....,.
If they made the engineers disassemble and reassemble these machines they would be a dream to work on .
Over engineering what should be a simple manual brake,but people these days are to lazy to use it,so let's put on a electronic butt wiper on a mower next,just more stuff to protect the morons from getting hurt and sueing the manufacturer,glad to see there's mechanics like you that care about saving the customer money,and anguish,my hats off to man
You are the Man Taryl , anyone that works with their hands can appreciate the job you just did and also remind others to never pressure wash equipment if you can help it. My mowers never see water just a good leaf blower for cleaning.
Yep, the leaf blower trick is the bomb.
Good to see your way Taryl, Thought I would mention my way. If you remove the battery platform (2 bolts) the whole plate comes out really easily and you can install the module from the top with one person. Also as you mention elskins didn't need to remove the gears to disable the parking mechanism, simply take a 10mm and remove what I would call the pawl, It's the part that connects to the module to physically engage/dis-engage the mechanical braking system. It's really easy to remove each 10mm bolt (thread it back in) and let the two arms dangle. push it all day now.
Another thing that makes installing the plastic cover ALOT easier is to un-bolt the solenoid and move it a little bit, which gives you the room to properly install the cover and start the problem bolt, which can be tightened (as you mentioned) through the access hole in the frame.
I am a heavy equipment mechanic, on my rig I have full setts of Deutch for caterpillar Delphi for older deere harness connection kits. Comes with everything to repair or make new harnesses, little pricey but so worth it when ya need it. Anymore I get all refills from Amazon so there ya go.
3:13 Shoulda been spraying a little Fluid Film in those connections :) That's good stuff. (It's dielectric too)
I've done repairs on modules like that on my own equipment by digging the epoxy potting out from around the broken pin and soldering on a new connection. But no way would I do that as a repair shop. You could not warrantee a shaky repair like that. Thanks for the vids! 👍👍
Plus the labour time.
Im not a grass rat im a grasshopper 😂 love this channel
🤣 When the cameraman's hand came in the shot!
that new part Nice 😎😎😎
Thank you for all the detail and trouble you go through to do your videos .
Great job Taryl Fixes All team !👍👍👍👍
Taryl...your WERE talking right to me, TOMMY, ! now I HAVE to get that shirt!
A couple of years ago I diagnosed and replaced one of those brake modules for a guy after his "brother" had already come and installed a new battery, starter motor, starter solenoid, and key switch! After I was done, the guy asked me to uninstall all his brother's new parts and put back the old ones so that he could return them on amazon and get his money back!
When I got my new Husqvarna 46" mower, I did some PM work before I used it for the first time. Dielectric greased all the electrical connectors, anti-seized the rear tires, electric pto clutch, bolts for the spindles, and other things to ensure no issues in the future.
I mowed my son's lawn with his TORO. I have been mowing lawns since 1957, and that mower had the first failed starter cord handle I have ever seen. I got a new one
That was brilliant to find and replace those terminals. I think if I was doing it as a DIYer without seeing your video I would end up buying the whole harness and cut off the plug and solder it onto the old wiring harness.
they fixed the issues with the brake after the 2013 model. no issues after that. rust was the main issue. it also is very easy to turn the brake off manually.
Great fix . Happy as Larry 🤣🤣🤣🤣
"Did a Giggle search" absolute gold
Thanks Taryl,
Central California watching
I have ran into this same exact problem. Went on Amazon and bought some pin connectors and repinned that pigtail.
Hi Taryl, long time subscriber, first time commenter from New Zealand. Classic case of why we should be keeping combustion engines and not converting to electric. If they (Toro, or should that be Zoro) can’t even put electric grease on the terminals, what faith do we have in the companies making the new age mower’s getting it right at the factories.
Zoro, that sounds like a new character to go with “Blademan and Throttle “ . Great channel, very helpful and informative. Keep up the great work.
Zorro did cut--
Larry is the prime minister's cat. He's very happy.
Anyone who owns one of these like myself and is mechanically inclined knows that 2nd to the motor going is the fear that this thing will. So now thanks to you I can see how to tackle this should it ever. One for the books Taryl !! thank you. Wish the stamp decks on these were thicker, they are prone to rust. Blow and rinse the deck off after mowing. Annually remove the deck and make any repairs and touch ups.
I keep some dielectric grease in my nightstand.
Great video. Thanks for sharing.
If all your Phillips screwdrivers were magnetized, you could put the screw on it and it would hold--works for all kinds of stuff--like carbs--no more dropped screws, etc. Thank me after you become a believer! Learned this working on electronics in a TV shop years ago. :-) Also, I have a pretty good collection of rare earth magnets out of those modules--it's pressed in to the big gear.
Parts canon!!!😂😂
You are Absolutely Awesome.
Remove the brake and change the ignition circuts to switches, or back on the key. Like it should be, some simple screw to set brake
Looks like the ones on the Cummins ISX engine to me
If I run into this problem I will find out 😊
Great information and advice
Thank You
PS. Every connection on that mower needs the grease
17:26 theres your dinner !
This guy is freakin' hilarious! Awesome job!
Its amazing that new cars and mowers work at all with all that cheap toy plastic. They only want them to last through the warranty period. I will stick with my 30 year old mowers and vehicles! Good video Taryl.
Taryl the "Mower Master" teaching that turd who's BOSS‼️😉
You should've able to get the wire seals for the connectors, as it is a GM terminal , and or apply silicone to the back of the harness connector to seal it.
Excellent
Wow nice crimp! Good call on the dielectric grease.
You're the best. I've watched your videos and they have definitely saved me a ton of money and gave me a few laughs
Love my 42 timecutter , never any issues , never wash it , always blow it off with air compressor.
Awesome work Taryl!!!♥
I wish you made this video 2 months ago, lol . I did it the long way. I replaced the module then the whole wire harness. I found it for $100 on eBay. So spent 260 total.
The Mountain MTNC48 Crimper has been Discontinued. Love your videos. Your advice on power equipment is Golden.
What the... I thought you movie "stares" were on strike???? 😎 Hollywood cannot talk, no writers. 🥰 Toro it apart.
taryl you are the best, love your show
Just another thing put on for the convenience of not having to pull on a lever to do something....have a friend that has the same concept on his car...how hard is it to pull a lever or press on a pedal to engage a parking brake? In any event, next mower I end up with will not have this feature. Nice job by Tarly on diagnosis and repair in cost efficient way. My tractor would not start one day...had to jump it with screwdriver and or a jump wire to start it....dealer searched all safety switches...finally found it in the 8th safety switch on the thing...how did us older folk survive without them?
GT 150 is used for a bunch of GM car headlights like say a 2018 Malibu. I'd have to look it up but for a whole bunch of terminal types GM sells what is called a 'terminated lead' which is just a terminal pre-crimped to a length of wire. Good for a diy because a person can make that repair with just a dental pick and basic crimp splices or solder instead of a specialized set of terminal crimpers.
Great video.
Having to look for parts like that seems part of my usual evening trying to repair machinery that is to complex for what reason?
Only problem I saw was you disconnected the battery positive first instead of negative first.
It would be interesting to find out who was on the design team, and their experience/qualifications that they brought to this product.
They sure don't make it easy do they I love this channel
Had the same issue on one about 3 months ago. Costumer didn’t want to pay alot for that module… so I just jumped the wires. He was happy … I was happy with the pay 💰. Had steak 🥩 for my dinner that nite
Hey Taryl,
Tim here (Bobaloo)......this vid is EXACTLY why i sub'd....you find the culprit, cuz u know where to look, like when i'm at my shop, an a customer cant crank their 429 SCJ Torino......it shud be just a cupla wires....i find rotted, miserable, connections......ya gotta know where to look......yep.....BOY, I LOVE YOUR CHANEL........ so you are spot on!!!.......my shops 429 SCJ Torino, THANKS you for vids like this......SCJ runs great now!!!....SAME mind set, dif application!!!....Love it!!
@19:54 No wonder the contacts rotted out. The "cover" acts as a condescension trap and puts water directly down the wires and then to the connectors on the plug.
Great engineering guys!
I'd caulk that whole cover and plug before it's installed to keep it sealed or it's just going to do it again.
Great job on the repair and saving the customer lots of money…👍👍👍
You are the ''man'' Taryl!
Great work as always. Taryl. Another example of modern junk. Designed by someone that doesn’t or can’t work on anything. Regards from Australia 🇦🇺
That connection is actually a Molex MX150 connector series. What you bought is a knockoff part. The female connector pin should be Molex: 330012003. There's your dinner!
Mower looks pretty clean like maybe it’s been cleaned frequently using a pressure washer & forced water into the connection?
Thumbs up to elk skins for moving it and getting it there. Is there a weather pack on connector.
You the Man Taryl 👍🏻
Toro the best in off the shelf equipment design.😂
T ! Love ya but need to chip in that yes, I do have that mower. And I did need to replace that part a few years ago. Couple things...It is very hard to get to and I probably wouldn't have done it myself if I had seen this video beforehand. I swapped out my module from underneath and didn't really take off nearly as many parts as you did. Fortunatly I did not have the damaged connector to deal with but I do think that installing the annoying cover is an attempt to protect that connection. It is always a little thrilling to diagnose and fix something like this and your videos are remendously helpful. Thanks
You got me curious, so I had to google Happy as Larry, Taryl. Larry Foley was a prizefighter in Australia in the 1890's. The last fight he fought had a prize of about $150,000 and a newspaper headline in New Zealand had Happy as Larry as the headline, and it just stuck. Me being a "Murican, I never heard of that until today... I go to Taryl Fixes All to get my education in World Culture and small engine repair tips. Thanks, Taryl. I feel co cultured now! Wooo Hooooo!!!
❤ holy shit, Miss Molly. What crap well I come up with next.. 😢😢😮
As a 20 year HVAC career professional, please tell me when your "They don't make it easy; they just make it cheesy" T-Shirts & Hats come out to purchase. I've just worked a ton of hours and so much appreciate being able to finally get a break & a nice glass of bourbon and watching your show, enjoying a great laugh and learning what all us grass and hvac rats know about digging into the nitty-gritty!
I had the same thing on the same model 2 years ago at the dealership. Terminal broke and all corroded. It was not easy like u said to get out and that cover is a pain! Good work!