We're Screwed. Obsolete Ignition Fried! What Do We Do Now??
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- čas přidán 18. 06. 2022
- Slippers went to pull out his old 1969 Sears Custom 10XL for a local tractor show when Junior done fried his ignition coil! Now what will he do in order to get this thing running again? That ignition system is obsolete and hard to find. Even if you do find one you're not guaranteed it's going to work or hold up.
Luckily for Slippers, Dale over at Overnight Solutions has a solution! He offers an ignition kit that will take the place of that old coil. Taryl's gonna show Slippers and y'all at home just what it takes in order to get this thing goin again. Bringing back that old technology when options are limited. Be sure to subscribe to the channel for all the latest videos. And as always... There's Your Dinner!!
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You boys are lucky to have a Dad like that.
Happy Father’s Day Taryl.
I'd be tempted to either paint the coil red or white, or cover it with a chrome cover. That blue coil is like a stain on an otherwise beautiful tractor!
Happy fathers day taryl
I have an old roto tiller I bought for $20 form the interwebs... has an old Techcumish engine with no spark. Looks like this may just be my dinner.. Thanks Taryl and Slip dog!
It's great to see the 10XL again Slippers. And Taryl, I totally agree with your definition of a good auto parts store.
Been watching you for years and you are the mistro of upgrades on vintage machines. Great vid!
I love watching the talented Dactyl family on Sunday !!!! Another great production fellas!!!!
It's like watching the Sinclair's.
"Not the Mama!"
HAPPY FATHERS DAY Taryl..... and all the other "Grass Rats" Fathers
To you too 👍✊
So the original tractor had a solid state ignition? That surprised me. Interesting seeing a coil used to save a vintage tractor because solid state is NLA.
This YT channel is the best on DIY - How To - small engine repair. ✔
Get down Daryl! That bolt with a stud was a great idea. AND Overnight Solutions👌
Just bought a 10XL from the scrap yard! Appreciate you showing me how it keep it operational!! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
13:12 “and then you’re going to get mad and start throwing stuff”. Typical Saturday in my garage fixing something. 😅
Why would the day of the week matter? I get mad every day of the week and through stuff, keeps me in shape!🕶
Well done nice job what a good little Tractor cheers Mick Australia great site.
That tractor is clean! That new spark is red hot!
Lol 1931 was a good year...nope is was not..Another Great video guys.
Slipper clutch did a fine job of renewal on that Sears, beautiful restoration. I'd give him a There's your dinner on that one.
That's the exact coil that came off my 74 VW bug 🙂
Beautiful restore job on that 10XL.
Great that you are helping keep old Tecumseh's rolling. Good on you.
I love you ALL! Great fun and videos! Thank you!
That is actually a really cool looking tractor
Happy Father's Day guys. Taryl Sundays are the best. Wish I new about that company last year.
No need to hide that coil it looks good That Ignition upgrade is better than the original I think anyone with the same setup would be wise to change to that system
Fantastic looking restoration!!!
Oh man it's 130 am...
Working all day... Still got no sparks. Overnight solutions you say...
Threaten me with a good time... Your on. 3 2 1 go
I have the exact same mower with no spark. Gonna get ahold of Dale at overnight. Thanks a bunch for the video.
Hit up Dale over at www.overnight-solutions.com
I did something similar with a 1969 Bolens 1455. I made what is usually referred to as a "dirty" power supply. I hooked that up to pickup coil under flywheel, and hooked that up to an early 70's GM ignition module to fire ignition coil.
Ignition module had to be mounted to an aluminum plate for cooling itself. Just cut a 3x3 square and attached it to blower shroud.
I also added a wire with a diode to the "start" on the original key switch so engine would have spark during cranking.
Years ago I drew a diagram for Bolens, it should be floating around the internet somewhere.
Best tip I can add to this is, pay attention to where 12v is going cause you can, and will burn shit up IF not done right, and think things through.
Excellent. HEI came out on GM cars in '75 and I think I did my first HEI conversion on one of these about '77 or '78. You might have beat me to it. However I figured out by about '93 that "everything except the distributor" from an '88 5.0 Mustang worked really really nice and trouble free.
@@patrickshaw8595 Yes, they work fabulous!
Keep in mind, the reason for using the early module was the early GM ignition did not use any computer control.
God bless
I did the same ignition set up on my 1967 Sears super 12 it originally had the Tecumseh with points, but that motor is long gone, someone put a tecumseh solid state motor on it and the solid state died on it, so I put this overnight solution kit on it and it runs the best out of all the sears mowers with the Tecumseh solid states that I own
Great professional repair that really befits that nicely restored Sears tractor. Good demonstration of knowledge and skill. Always look forward to your videos. I guess Junior should stick to sweeping the floor.
Great video guys GOD BLESS YOU ALL Andy there's your Dinner
Good info Gentleman. Thank You ! -Now about that *TECUMSEH ENGINE* decal on the engine, I don't recall any of my History books in school showing
*TECUMSEH* LOOKING LIKE THAT ! 🤣
Looks like that thing would run HOT!
Where do we get that decal? I have been missing the Indian maiden on the butter packages as well.
Thanks for part numbers Taryl. always got to have part numbers. the more part numbers the better. Thanks Taryl!
Nothing like a good spark to get your motor running. And happy father's day.
Slip-dogs garden tractor does look great. Aaakktchooolie, it's badass.
Happy Father’s Day Taryl. Slipper is lucky to have you there to fix up his and juniors mistakes. Onward and upward, get ‘er done, there’s your breakfast!!!
You brought joy. Thanks!
It's seems like it has hotter spark and gives the tractor more torque and speed. Great job guys.
It's been many years since school, but if I remember, solid state systems produce around 20,000 volts while standard coils produce around 30.000. Hence the hotter spark. There are advantages and disadvantages to both systems.
@@jimbrewer2893 It's not quite that simple.
@@patrickshaw8595 I was just talking basics. Of course it's not that simple.
@@jimbrewer2893 Farrraday documented and then wrote the formulas for the "flyback effect" of a magnetic field when the circuit that was creating that field is instantly halted. If you get creative to maximize the effect with two separate coils of wire that's the classical magneto or battery coil system with mechanical contact points.
The voltage available is theoretically INFINITE in any such system.
Skip now to what you are trying to accomplish with such a system- jump a spark gap. Doing it while the gap is inside a pretty fair vacuum and also while same gap is inside couple-three hundred PSI is not too demanding nowadays we got good insulation to keep that voltage from going anywhere except the gap.
There's always gasoline or propane or something mixed in with the air. If it's mixed real thinly (lean) then a big gap and a long spark duration are very helpful.
If the plug is sooty or wet then making the voltage at the gap jump up so fast it goes across the sooty wet surface and across the gap and still starts the engine.
Battery-and-coil builds up slowest - a good magneto is pretty good at it - and best of all is CD capacitive-discharge ignition which is why it gets used in two-cycles, outboards and the like - most beneficial when starting.
There - now you know just as much as i do on the subject.
@@patrickshaw8595
It's fun to see guys change out ignition parts from a "yellow" spark.
Using a real spark tester, don't worry about color.
That's from some crazy 💩 burning ions out of the air or something 🤣
Can it jump the spark testers gap is the main question.
These ol dogs don't need much spark to run,and the timings fixed.
After all these years now Briggs has an electronically advancing ignition on the newer bigger engines ,and it's given them a bunch of power.
That's one nice looking tractor Slipper's! Good job guys!
I lost it,at what the heck, AND HE SAID I MIGHT HAVE STEPPED ON A DUCK,,I ALMOST PEED MY PANTS! That's hilarious 😂😂😂😆😆😂
Happy Father's day my friend
That tractor is awesome great work boss!
Glad you got the 10XL back to life, one of my favourite projects you did! It is just an amazing tractor 👍🏻
Love the paint job on it
Very sharp tractor
Love watching the videos really gives me the giggles
That is just like the 1970 thru mid 80s boat ignition system happy Father’s Day I got 4 boy boy girl boy 👍🏻
Wow. That is one fine looking tractor. Such a cool upgrade.
That’s actually an awesome upgrade I love that 10XL and how it turned out…
This guy like a vo=tech teacher man!!!
I'm definitely looking into this. I've got seven of these old Sears tractors, and it would be nice to get them running again.
I was probably the first one to make a substitute for the original system while still a teenager. Used the battery charging coil from an electric start Lawnboy handmower next to the flywheel as an inductive trigger for a standalone GM HEI module with the 6-cylinder HEI coil. I had to tune the offset input voltage to the module with 4 tiny diodes and a resistor to come up with 2.1v.
It worked well but because the ignition coil was energized for a fixed crank angle (there was no way to use the module's adjustable dwell capability) if you left it idling too long the coil was subjected to "on" times longer than 3 milliseconds and it would eventually overheat and short out. If you had it running at least 2800-3000 rpm or up then it was fine.
Other than this kit Taryl shows the easiest way to scratch build an ignition for on of these now would be to epoxy tiny super magnets to the flywheel's periphery, use any automobile Hall Effect sensor (that you can find the wiring diagram for) hooked to one of the remote mounted Ford Thick Film Ignition modules. 1) It would work at Zero Rpm. 2) It would adjust to the correct dwell if paired with the correct coil. 3) Get the parts from 1988 Ford Mustang 5.0 called "the push-start module" ($90 for everything from NAPA)
Please do! Those old girls are great tractors that far exceed the quality of what they are producing today.
That is a slick updated kit for those old Tecumseh engines
The birdies quieted down real quick after that duck quacked...
Thank You Taryl another great lesson , I restore old garden tractors and Electrical issues drive me to drink a lot of beer , Helps me to calm down
Thanks for showing the crimp tool, Im going to buy myself one of those for Christmas. I have one of those tractors, so Im going to look up your buddy Dale. Nice piece Slippers. Good job on the wiring Taryl.
I have 3 Tecumseh HH-120 12 hp blocks and this solves one of my problems .
That's a great looking tractor.
You guys are the best! I hope you guys had a great Father’s Day and take care! Keep up the great work.
I can see how Slippers would want to be careful because of the nice paint job.
Happy Father's Day Taryl
hang on to that old stuff!
Enjoy watching you repair the equipment hope you had a great Father's Day thanks for the video
Happy Father’s Day!!!! That’s an awsome classic tractor slippers!!!!
Dang what a sweet rig!
All I could picture is the scene from Back To The Future III when Doc wires up a new time circuit using 1955 parts and the thing is just strapped to the hood of the car :D
Awesome buddy thanks for sharing that’s a great setup
Thank you tayral for being a great teacher
Good video!! I once put Chevy coil on a tecumseh, it worked well!!!!😎👍
Good goin' guys, Taryl to the Rescue.
Now its red white and blue, cool.
What a beautiful machine, definitely worth saving!
That module is a Hall-effect switch. (Memories of automotive school, lol.)
I have a couple of old antique pieces of equipment. A DR wood chipper with a 12 horse single cylinder Tecumish on it and a 2004 Scrub Cadet LT 2042 with a Kohler engine and shaft drive. They aren't really antiques, they're what I use to maintain my place. The deck on the scrub cadet needs welding, Tecumish stopped making spark while I was running it last time, so thanks for this video. It's probably going to come in handy.
Nice job! I love how the external coil looks. Taryl indeed does fix it all...!😎
Fantastic work taryl
Happy Father's Day!
Man look at that gorgeous little tractor!
never never let the smoke out !
That's awesome. Thanks for that information. Happy father's day
That 10XL is mint. You guys not only did a great job restoring it but all the colors chosen are perfect.
That is a nice old tractor, and you did a nice job on the wiring, great job .
This is another fine entertainng and informative video. cheers !
I am gonna have to check them out. I've got an 8hp vertical shaft that dies after it gets hot. It starts OK when cold. Thanks Taryl!
i love you man . i learn so much . i work for a pawn shop in Brooksville fl Steve
Another great video by Taryl and company👊🏼💯
Those overnight solution kits work well. I've had sears with the Tecumseh engines for a long time. Fortunately only one ignition ever failed.
Awesome fix! Love your videos, very informative and helpful!
Great video. Happy Father’s Day!
i can see Slippers re-painting that coil and tucking some of the wires out of sight.....looking good
You guys are the cleverest! Enjoyed watching and got a shirt. Thanks for the look and learnin!
slip-dog's pride and joy! Elroy you numb nuts! happy Father's day to the Fathers today!!
Love it when it all comes together
Same Bosch blue coil that's on my VW bug.
Nothing tops the day like Geriatric Joy... Slip Dog got a reprieve at the eleventh hour... and there's you supper.
Happy Father’s Day Taryl and Happy Father’s Day to everyone you are the man Taryl thanks for all your videos and the time you and your family take to make them,you are loved here in Van Buren Twp Michigan Taryl.
Great job Taryl happy Father’s Day i’ve done that once or twice in my life 👍
Carbide tools are great but they produce a zillion sharp and tiny metal shavings. That wouldn't be so bad but when they are on your hand and you bump one they hurt! Hopefully they are ferrous metal so a good neodymium magnet will get them out. I got them out that way but you really do need a strong magnet to do it that way. The other way is with a good magnifying tweezer. A light with a single light source is helpful too. If you have multiple light sources they may produce multiple shadows making it a little harder to get the shaving. These dang things are tiny but they hurt a lot more than you might expect. You can wear gloves but then you have a glove full of those horrible things!!!
This is a good upgrade, I love that 10xl tractor if looks great. Happy Father’s Day
Beautiful tractor
Here's a great hack if you have a solid state ignition system it's gone bad and you don't want to pay big bucks for that coil that has the unknown other guts in it. What you do is get a regular magneto coil that's intended to operate with points but then use one of those little $8 modules that eliminates points.
Taryl is doing all the work!!
Happy Father's day