INSIDE Valvoline's SECRET R&D Laboratory to UNCOVER the TRUTH
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- Every engine begins building up deposits the moment it starts up for the first time. Deposits in the piston ring grooves can negatively affect the performance of the piston rings - high blow by and increased oil consumption. Valvoline claims to have developed a new motor oil technology, "Restore & Protect returns pistons
to factory clean by removing up to 100% of deposits when used as directed and prevents new deposits from forming."
That’s a BIG claim, so I had to see if that was marketing hype or scientific breakthrough. Fortunately, I know the Chief R&D Officer at Valvoline, so we got a backdoor pass to their engine test lab to see for ourselves.
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Wow! I'm blown away by the response to this video. Just a few points of clarification:
1 - Restore & Protect is for gasoline engines. It is not designed or intended for use in diesel engines.
2 - Many viewers asked for a video about this product, and it just happened that I know Roger and we are working on the hydrogen engine project along with Total Seal. That's how this video came into being. Valvoline did not contact me to sponsor this video.
3 - The point of this video is that what you see on a spec sheet doesn’t always equate to what will actually happen in the engine. That's why I wanted to make this video and in this way. Spec sheets don't tell the whole story, and this product provided a perfect way to illustrate that point.
At just before 20 min you show how you have to have the equipment to measure and test physical results.
Are you going to go back to your additive vid and correct the results where you're trashing additives without testing, as you acknowledge here? Or is every vid only for the sake of your buddies?
You've completely discredited yourself by showing you know proper procedures, but seemingly prove you hate additives for favor of Valvoline testing facilities....
Don't get me wrong, I appreciate Valvoline's cleaning abilities, but in a towing 460, their oil doesn't hold up. If I put in a quart of that Lucas stabilizer that you claim only thickens the oil, then my oil doesn't break down from heat, and the engine lasts for 80k+ instead of 10k.....
What I'm saying is that you can't be biased and hold credibility at the same time... And oddly, your face shows your intent every time... When you change this and start to speak truthfully, as you obviously have experience and know the proper procedures and choose who is worthy of them and who not, then the cause of cancer disappears... just like stabilizing the temperature of the oil to retain lubricity.
Makes a lot of sense. I been watching your videos for some time.
Thank you for this and all of the other vids you have done and will do! I do base my oil purchases and engine building procedures off of what I have learned from you, and for that I’ll say thank you again!
@@Faolan161 I agree, it would have been cool for him to show the potentially disastrous effects of additives in engine testing, but as expensive as that would be, I can see why he didn't and it was still a very educational video.
He didn't say additives will never work in any application and that they will always cause destruction, what he (correctly) said is that using an additive is a gamble because you have no way to know how it will interact with the base oil and additive package already used in the oil and you have no good way to quantify the results.
I'm curious to know why you think the Valvoline you used in your 460 didn't hold up? Did you have it analyzed? Were you losing oil pressure? Burning oil? Etc
Soooo Valvoline Restore and Protect of Pennzoil Ultra Platinum? Would be used in a 2024 Prius Prime with a M20A-FXS, a really high miles (300k) 2012 Civic Si with a K24Z7 and a 2019 CX5 with the Turbo Skyactiv.. Also, whay are your toughts on Hybrid Specific motor oils like the one AMSoil does?
Tried this on my sisters old 2002 Hyundai Accent 1.6 back. Car had horrible oil burning problems. Last summer I tried some AC Delco Top Engine cleaner soaking the top of the pistons. Changed plugs and refilled with Castrol. All burned up in a month. Tried Liqui Moly, Mobil 1, same results. In January, I decided to try this. Been 4 months and has only burned LESS than half a quart since. Unreal and bravo to Valvoline.
your sister is so lucky to have a brother like you, yes I think this oil really works if you have stuck rings but the other things you did may have helped to free them up too
was it only one time or you switched to this oil moving forward?
Yeah man, I run their synth oil in all the engines I do oil changes in, always was surprised with how dirty the oil got in used engines until it didn't (done cleaning deposits), even the regular synth product does a great job of cleaning. The only vehicles I don't use it in is my tow vehicle ('99 5.3l Silverado with over 500k km) and my track day car, they get Red Line products.
Thank you for this comment as i'm dealing with the same issue on the same engine and tried liquimolly engine flush twice and their friction modifier but got no change. Burnt almost a quart on the way to work this morning.
Avoid HYUNDAI/ KIA altogether. Engineering advice.
In my opinion this is why CZcams exists. Getting real and useful information out so people can make educated decisions and feel confident in them.
Blows me away when it comes to "Bio-fuels" though. I've given up trying to explain to people that mixing a chemical cocktail in your shed with a bucket and a stick will never compete with the fuel companies and their huge budget R&D quest. Long-term it will not only cost them time and money sourcing all the ingredients but ultimately downtime while a mechanic tries to unravel all the internal destruction they have caused.
You have to do research if you want to know the truth. So many of the videos on youtube are just ads. Like the best 10 oils in 2024 they just read the ad copy from the oil companies or see which oils sell the best on Amazon, lol.
Bro this entire video is just an ad.
You believe them? Because they have been claiming their oil cleans engines for decades.
@@thatman4752 I’ve never been able to ascribe to your level of cynicism.
@@trulyhappy8855 Literally every bottle of oil from every major oil company for the last 30 year's has said it cleans engines. Idiot
My grandpa who was a mobile technician and mechanic by trade for 30 years swore by Valvoline, and his career ended in '92. I'm glad to see they are continuing to live up to their reputation.
Lab in India? They gonna tell u what u wanna here. Wow
Too bad they're owned by a Saudi Arabian company now :(
@@enhancedphysique6452 their tests wouldn't have yielded these results if it was all just talk.
@@TheBrotherbutler lol desperate for what?
+Valvoline is a decent product. For oil. Yeah no arguing that. The real problem is being told oil out of the ground is a "fossil fuel" - dinosaur bones, and is a limited resource. Even the number of years dinosaurs were on the earth, what is it like 150 million years? LOL? All of that was made up by John D. Rockefeller. Scientists have no clue how long the dinosaurs were on the earth. Seriously. Given that we are told there are 200 years of reserves of oil in the ground they wanted to make sure to "account" for that large of number, or millions of barrels of oil. Scientists like to keep their jobs so they do what they are told. All to make the claim "oil" (thus gasoline, which is simply a "by product" from making Kerosene. and for years nobody knew what to do with the stuff, and scientists trying to work with it caught themselves on fire and died This would be mid to late 1800's. The oil industry in the beginning did not intentionally make gasoline. It's a by product we're getting charged $4 a gal right now. And why not 1 octane level instead of 3? the 1 that works? lol) but anyway by making oil a "fossil fuel" or dinosaur bones meant the oil company could claim it as a "limited resource" because there are no more dinosaurs. Right? Well, oil is actually made constantly and currently in the "mantle" of the earth's crust again as a "by product" from the earths inner workings and mechanisms. Not sure exactly what they are, but oil wells pumped dry years ago are refilling today. In fact, that has created a problem with natural gas producton. As you don't want oil in your natural gas. Plus, there are geysers of oil at the very bottom of every ocean (along fault lines) that are releasing hundreds of gallons of oil into the ocean per minute. Too deep though for us to retrieve. But scientists think these geysers have been around hundreds if not thousands of years. If not, currently they are not slowing down anyway. Scientists can and do good work They just have to get "approval" what is allowed to be released to the public. Lava is more prevalent, but oil is more like Lava than dinosaur bones. (And if dinosaur bones are white, why is oil black? lol ) What's a shame is to have this be taught in schools. 50-60% of what is taught in schools is a narrative supporting corporate business. 100% of what is taught in public schools has been approved by the Rockefeller family who it was John D. Rockefeller who "started" the National Educaton System in America in the 1930's. And a Rockefeller has been on the board ever since. The other people on the board are approved by the Rockefellers too. The Rockefeller Foundation is the only organization that funds the FDA - The Food and Drug Administration, other than our taxes. And yeah, Rockelfellers on their board too throughout history.) But don't believe me, what do I know? Check it out yourself. I love cars, and right now it seems to me if it were not for OPEC and maybe the car manufacturers, maybe, that we would all being driving scooters if we had to abide by the "western" governments wishes. The price of cars keep increasing so "regular" folk soon won't be able to afford them new. Or has that already happened?) Peace.
I hope this is noticed, I'm a mechanic in south Carolina, I have started using this in my truck and it does in fact work, have boroscope images to prove it, however, the same filter clogging as the blue restore still occurred, luckily when I saw a difference in my oil pressure I went ahead and just changed out the filter and added a quart, but buyer beware and keep an eye on your gages or values!
How long did it take to clog the filter?
How long?
how many miles did it take to clean ?? i do a filter change at 3k miles and change oil at 5k,,, 70% highway miles,, its a 2.4 gm ecotech ,,ya,,,lol 2017 @ 108k miles
@RussellCompton-fh3gr I have a 2003 ford ranger, I do oil changes with restore and protect every 3k, filter every time, I put about 30k on my truck every year and it took about 3 oil changes to clear deposits on heads, it clogged my filter towards the end of first change, just be mindful of how your engine ru s and sounds without a legitimate oil pressure Guage the closest you can get is reading the infotainment menus.
Changes @ 3k with new filter and scoping done (I'm a freak I know) about 3 to clean and clogged towards end of first change with the new oil. Trust the process but be weary
Kudos to Valvoline for inviting us all over.
Like others, been using their products for many years.
NAPA store brand oil is made by Valvoline or at least uses a Valvoline engineered formula.
Says so on the container.
Who is us ?
@@jamesholmes3955 I dont care how they test. Thats virtually meaningless.
Ive torn down a Jeep 4.0 that I literally SCOOPED what was once oil put of the pan by hand. It not only spun 5 rod bearings but 3 mains as well, trashing the block.
I got another block, my daughter rebuilt it and installed it back in the Jeep when she was in high school 12 years ago
Shes still driving it and changes the oil every 3000 miles.
I also pulled off valve covers from two engines which were packed with sludge. It killed one of them, a Hyundai, but the other, an old Ford 390 still ran.
Oil is DIRT CHEAP compared to an engine.
I change at 3000-5000 miles on gasoline engines no matter what.
Im starting my 53rd year in automotive repair.
I know better.
@@donreinke5863 Sludge would indicate your daughter does a lot of "stop and go" driving without getting the engine warm enough to get the moisture out. Is the Jeep's exhaust rusted through as well?
@@jamesholmes3955 After so many miles of driving, engine oil additives break down. It's those additives that help to keep your engine clean where it counts, so you probably don't want to go over 7,000mi (if you can help it.) Also, highway miles are going to do less harm than grocery-getting miles, as water accumulates when you don't get your engine up to running temperature often enough.
I’m literally geeking out on these videos. Surface Profilometry & Tribology testing was my specialty at Honeywell 14 years ago. Good luck finding someone to “talk shop” with when you leave the industry!
Kansas City boy huh ;)
Thank you! I was at the Society of Tribologists & Lubrication Engineers annual meeting this past week, and many people said how much they love these videos.
@@Ty_N_KC Phoenix actually, turbine engine division
I have been using Castrol edge my whole life I just recently changed over to Amsoil what oil brand do you recommend? Thank you for any info you can give me.
@@johnnyquest8710 that’s kickass. I’ve got a few friends that work up at Honeywell in KC. You guys get to do some pretty cool shit. Thank ya sir!
Career mechanic here.
I am also a firm believer that Valvoline never lets anyone else get ahead for long. In the uncountable engines I have been into over the 25 years of my career, the ones that run Valvoline are far cleaner, and have far less wear that any other brand of oil. weather it's a comparison between conventional, synthetic blend, or full synthetic Valvoline has come out on top time and time again, in light to heavy duty applications, even in powersports applications that first bottle I reach for will always be valvoline. Thank you for all your hard work!
I have a 21 Subaru forester will valvoline clean and restore keep my valves clean ?
How do you feel about Castrol full synthetic?
_"We don't wanna overwhelm the oil filter."_
That's a good point. An aggressive oil flush will loosen up a bunch of gunk, and that stuff will clog the oil filter. I've been there and done that. It's not fun.
That is one of the key things here.
Think the wording on the bottle suggest using "regular" change intervals which for some newer vehicles could be a VERY long time (my 2003 is 6 months/6k miles, and 2014 is more like 12 months... Newer cars seem even crazier. 20K-25K miles. What?!) and the Video shows an example after just 4,000 miles. Now for my vehicles I have Drop in Filter Cartridges and per the OLM (and Oil Analysis) tend to run 6-8K miles OK on a "regular" Full Synthetic.
Seems with R&P like it'd be very cheap Insurance (and maybe improve/speed cleanup) to throw in a fresh Oil filter at 3-4K miles (or 2k if getting fresh Oil at 4k?)... And an early warning if a particularly Sludged up/deposit heavy engine is an overachiever...
@@themotoroilgeekif one were to use this every 3,000 miles going forward( driving a 2006 Acura RL with 195k, have been using penzoil ultra platinum with Amsoil oil filter for the last few years and 5k oil changes) is there a recommendation on oil filter- is 20 micron too much or stick to 30? Thanks for sharing this and love your enthusiasm!!
@lgoamity You're running your oil too long. Change no later than 4K. Remember, it's a process that occurs over and over again. The inside of your engine is probably dirty.
@@michaelchueh I can share with you that I contacted a rinseable filter manufacturer who wrote back to me a nice explanation that they actually had a meeting with amsoil and they were surprised to hear that amsoil felt the best thing to have was a filter that would filter very very well and then go to bypass. This company I corresponded with did not agree. This is why I will only use a mobile filter or maybe even an oem filter... Even Honda manuals will say you can change the filter every other oil change. More frequent oil changes matter almost more than new filters. If you run this cleaning type oil you probably want to consider changing the filter at 3,000 mi or something but there's another person commenting on here that he found gauge pressure changes and I have a question at him to see what he thinks and I also asked Lake to comment on if this is periodic use or if it is to be used regularly.
Been waiting for your video on the Restore and Protect. Running this in my 250000 mile engine and have noticed huge improvements in drive ability and mileage. Thank you Lake.
I believe that the more people know of Valvoline's commitment to research and improvement, the more people switching to Valvoline.
Heck I'm convinced. I'm gonna give it a try
Retired Chemical Engineer and gear head here. Your videos are great!
Glad you like them!
I'm so excited to start running this in my '06 toyota highlander(2AZ-FE engine)! I've ran the dynamic engine restoration system from BG through it(with filter changes as BG instructed) and it helped immensely, but this oil will definitely keep the rings free. Thank You, Valvoline! You've got a customer for life!
I have a 210K miles RAV with a 1AZ-FE. Oil consumption isn't that high, (I drive it very gently,) but emissions are getting marginal at the yearly test. I'm going to get some of this!
It’s great to see a company dedicated to excellence and push the limits of technology.
Come on, how many guys would Valvoline let into their lab?
That tells you how bad ass Lake is!
It helps to know the right person and happen to have the piston rings they need for their hydrogen engine, LOL.
Hey brother, I love your videos and Valvoline, I just got 80,000 mi in my 98 Mercury Grand Marquis yesterday, bought it a few months ago, first oil change I did Valvoline full synthetic ultramax life, yesterday changed it and used the restore and protect, should I change my oil earlier than normal the 1st time using this? I normally change it every 3 months , I do a lot of city driving, short trips too unfortunately, thanks again
What a great video Lake!!!! You know I am bias as Dad had one job post college and that was with Ashland/Valvoline. I know in the early 1960's Dad was involved in blind test that used Valvoline against other oils. It's really good to see Valvoline STILL going the extra yard to make a greeat product. Thanks!!!
This was really neat to watch because it's even more evidence for people to help them understand the points you always underscore in your videos:
- there is no one best oil
- oil chemistry performance varies between engines with different metallurgy
- chemistry before branding
- high or low numbers don't mean as much as the end result of the entire chemistry package in your specific application
As someone who has driven high performance cars under extreme conditions doing everything possible to not break them, I love your videos, I've learned a heckuvalot from them, and hope you have it in you to make many more.
Agreed
Thanks Lake for consistently getting this info to us.
Recently ordered my 1st Analysis Kit from You & have since received the results > heck.... you even responded back via return call within 24 hrs answering a few questions I had prior to ordering the kit 👍
Thanks again 🙏
Rob in California (2011 Cayenne S V8)
You are a good teacher Lake! Appreciate your time and effort to show us tech guys what is all behind the science. And fully agree that the field test show the real results instead of the industrial tests.
As soon as I seen this oil advertised, I thought of you and was hoping you would get to the bottom of this claim. Thank you.
"Honey, how come you watch 3 hours a month of motor oil videos"
"Im not sure, babe. I just have to.... just have to" 😁
High zinc levels being reduced scary low levels over the years have scared all of us old school guys. Your videos have taken a load off of our shoulders.
Thank you for all the information and testing that you do.
im in the "just add back zddp and detergents" camp personally...
Im curious about this oil now though.
is it a full synthetic base oil? what class is it?
its not gonna clean my engine if it burns to a paste in my OCI lol
@@KaosProject21 You need to get up to date. Lakes videos are on a level not seen elsewhere on the Internet.
ZDDP kills converters.....
....it's never coming back as it was in the old days.
Seriously tho, look into Lakes videos.
He's even shown high ZDDP creates engine wear.
Check out his videos, you will learn a lot.
So funny! I basically just had this rundown with my old lady! We just have to, lmfao 😆
@@KaosProject21
Not really a fan of snake oils or additives ,change it more often or find a brand that does what you need.
I'd use MMO ,even though recently I see Lake isnt a huge fan of it.
I'd add 1/2qt like 200mi before an oil change to help do some cleaning first.
If this stuff actually works ,it would be nice.
My vr6 had the aluminum surfaces inside it a little darker than I'd like to see when I had it opened up for timing chains.
And it's been maintained good and not abused.
I'll give it a try , and hopefully by change time I'll peek in and see the discoloration getting lighter.
Looks like 5-30 is the thickest they've got.
@@randywl8925
I've been running that royal purple hot stuff in my 91 Jetta diesel for years because I'm afraid of the zinc thing too.
Might wanna run that in the old Chevy or street rod or whatever you've got that's pre-obd2.
The emissions equipment on that vw diesel engine consists of a crankcase breather to the intake 😁
Hey I wondered about this product. I used Valvoline years back but drifted away when I started trying other synthetic oils. Just seeing this tutorial and hearing Valvoline still runs there own test labs I might go back. Very impressive R&D lab. Excellent tutorial
If they make it in a 0w40 I may have to give it a try, until then I will stick to Pennzoil Ultra Platinum.
Science in the automotive field is beautiful Takes all the emotion out of the equation
I'm trying to patiently wait for your testing on this and not just the Valvoline testing. I was one of the ones asking to hear more about this oil. Thanks for doing a video on it!
Another great video Lake! I was one of the commenters who asked you to do a video on the Valvoline Restore and Protect oil. You slam dunked this one! I'm going to start using this oil on my 2007 Civic with 150k on the engine.
I absolutely love this type of reporting and analysis. It is really refreshing to hear and see the good work that a company invests into its products. So many times, it simply marketing and void of results. Kudos to the Valvoline team on the new product, and thanks Lake for reporting on it!
Lake's literally in his element here, you can see how excited he is! 😊
You got that right! A fully stocked R&D lab with dynos and measuring equipment is as good as it gets.
@themotoroilgeek what do you think about Castrol edge, and Amsoil engine oil?
Are you kidding! I am excited! Just paid off my GDI and it's going through a lot of oil..... I hope this SAVES MY INVESTMENT!
Lake,
Thanks so much for this video. I spent my entire career in automotive manufacturing. I am 63 and am currently working part time at Advance Auto Parts. I saw the Valvoline Restore and protect oil in our store and wondered if it really worked. Needless to say I was skeptical, but intrigued by Valvoline’s claims as I believe they have superior performance oils. Your video really helped me understand how much better the engine can look after using this product. I’m getting ready to do an oil change on my truck and will definitely be switching to the restore and protect oil.
I really love your channel. I have watched every video and wish there was more. I love how you go into depth on everything. Thanks.
Just as I was watching DrivenRaceOil videos, This pops up. Its a great morning when Lake publishes a new video. Thank You Lake! All the Love in the world to you!
Really good info! Kudos to Valvoline for explaining and showing us their laboratory!👍
I've been waiting for a video like this. Thank you very much for the time you took to make this!
What an amazing video!! Thank you so much for sharing this with us and thank you to Valvoline for letting us into their testing lab! Valvoline is now my oil of choice.
Please go back!! Great job, Lake and The Awesome Valvoline dudes!!!! Would be fun to work in that lab! I'm going to try it too.
Okay, I'm starting to turn into an oil geek. Only because knowledge is power!! Amazing video, Mr. Lake and mass respect to you!
Finally!!!! Thank you!!!! I was using the Cummins Restore oil, and that stuff was crazy expensive, and I had to change my oil filter often. Now I can use this oil.
Very impressed, I really got confidence that these guys are passionate and knowledgeable on their specialist subject. I am with Liqui moly at the moment may indeed make the switch to the new clean and protect Valvoline oil in my Audi A8. Really enjoyed this thank you.
This is one of the few channels that i click like at the beginning, cuz you know you are gonna learn something :)
Been working for valvoline for almost a year now and I've been waiting for a video about this new oil so bad because I've wanted to use it and I'm super happy you uploaded this content and really appreciate the work you put out.
Thanks for doing this video. I bought this for my most recent oil change in my 2010 Sierra 5.3 with just over 100k miles.
There is a little section on the bottle that says it must be used for 3 oil changes for the results to be noticed.
Unfortunately I didn't take a video/pictures of the inside of my engine before I used it, so all I can go by is how well my truck continues to run.
I was also wondering about removing too much debris from the interior of the engine at once, and after reading the note on the bottle, I started to think that the reason for the slow and steady was so that it would protect the internal oil passages as well as not clog up the oil pick up and filter.
I’m getting ready to do the 3rd change on my wife’s 16 Pathfinder w/ 94k with the 5w-30 Reatore and Protect. It wasn’t using any oil beforehand but thought it would be beneficial if it did clean the position deposits to help keep the engine healthy
Over the years I have used different manufacturers specific oils for cars and motorcycles !
I never had any issues but always changed them out at the proper intervals !
Motorcycles more frequently !
Especially air cooled and ones that shared lubrication with the engine and transmission !
Thanks for these videos , they are informative ! 👍
I’ve had motorcycles and cars and even HGVs for the last 60 years and I admit I’ve never used this oil. I’ve always used the cheapest oil in the correct spec but always changed it every 5 thousand miles or twice a year and never had any problems with with oil consumption or bearing failure ever. I served my time as a diesel fitted and I have always believed that changing oil regularly is the best option for longevity and it’s worked brilliantly for me. I’ve never flushed an engine in my life on my own vehicles,just changed the engine oil and filter twice a year,spring and autumn.
THANKS!!! Best OIL video I have seen up to this date after a whole year of studying oil & suffering with a KIA OIL burner!!! I am going to take back 2 BOXES of Costco OIL (20 QTS) and try this oil on my wife's Dodge minivan with 170K miles.. I am going to tell KIA who are losing BIG $$$$$$$ on replacing engines too. I have used BG EPR on both cars and had a dealer piston soak on the KIA. KIA used 4.5 qts the last 2K miles. Worried about my EXPENSIVE CAT COVERTER NOW!!
I may not be a seasoned Tribologist but I am someone who knows when I see a highly functional applications lab. It is all about the chemistry and the formulation, as he stated but chemistry and formularies are the technology and a functional applications lab is where the truth gets told about the technology. I love being an applications guy because it is so challenging to get to those truths! Thanks Lake!
Great video Lake. Thank you and Valvoline for sharing. Looking forward to your test video
We (in my family ) are Honda people; my daughters and myself depend on 20 year old k-series engines, in the city of Atlanta.
This Is exciting Information and we will be running Valvoline. Humble thanks to you Mr. Speed
I have a 98 Honda accord, I started running valvoline synthetic high mileage, it started to free up the oil rings it seems as it burns a lot less oil now. 260k miles.
New video, at last! Thank you so much for all the hard work you do!
My pleasure!
I'm Valvoline certified... never found a reason to bring that up before!
another great production; keep it up!!!
I used Valvoline many years ago, when they had their Nextgen oil. I will give them another try on my next change. We appreciate this journey and the knowledge. I was not aware about Valvoline's own lab. Cool, man.
Have been subscribed to and watching Lakes videos for a while, BUT really cool to see Roger, who actually introduced Lake and I at PRI years back... Pretty Awesome!
Can't wait to try the restore and protect. Keep up the good work gentleman!
Very cool!
As a Hemi guy, what sold me was the cam shaft wear portion.
Haha, I was thinking the same thing. Been using Pennzoil ultra Platinum. Amsoil before that. Might just have to make another change. Lol
Great behind the curtain information on real in-depth testing of engine oil. The science behind Valvoline's engine oil is amazing.
1st time I watched you, that Restore and Protect is AWESOME!I I have a 2001 F150 with 189,000 miles that I am going to use this on
This is insanely cool, and now I definitely have to try this stuff out.
If Valvoline is watching though, my only ask would be a handle on the top of their bottles, as the lack of one makes the oil tougher to pour in recessed areas without a funnel (tougher to eyeball it).
Thanks again for all the awesome content Lake! As a mechanic, these videos really help me explain things to clients :)
I would like to see a comparison of this with Pennzoil Ultra-Platinum; My engines are still fairly clean with the use of Platinum and Ultra-Platinum.
Awesome video, Lake! I ran this in my Mom’s Subaru. It is Awesome!!! Will be adding this to my Pennzoil Ultra Platinum line up.
Thank you for another great video! I will definitely give this oil a try, after I use the 4 jugs of Valvoline Advanced sitting on my shelf.
Thanks again for clear explanations.
AMSOIL has a dyno and test lab to run every from leaf blowers and weed trimmers to 1000hp engines. Unless I'm missing something, Valvoline is not the only lab in the country with those capabilities as emphasized.
Fine but no other lab is certified by the API.
So they can claim whatever they want it's meaningless
i wouldn't trust any company that didn't in this arena!
amsol soesnt only produce oil, and yea you gotta verify the tests meet a peer level quality otherwise its just a claim.
some vehicles mess up if you dont use amsol products. or equivilant.
They can claim whatever they want. Don't get me wrong, it's a good product. The key being different products for different applications(specific classic car oil).
AMS oil isn't letting people in their labs, they aren't out there sharing information industry wide.
My only experience is over 25 years working in shops, taking apart motors.
Castrol motors are a specific color inside. pensoil motors are certain color inside, and the ones that never get changed all look the same inside too.
1000s of engines tell their own story.
I'm going with Valvoline.
Hundreds of us independent dealers have toured the AMSOIL facility, from where the train ankers are unloaded to blending and holding tanks, packaging and seenthe dyno cells in action. Also engines tore down to the last bolt and wrist pin. Gale Banks has a couple gmvudeos touring the same facility I just described and a whole series in the lab talking about tests and oil formulation.
Was looking forward to this video since my RX350 is nearing its next oil change at 236000k and I keep getting ads for the Restore & Protect. Funnily enough, at the end of this video I got an ad for it again
Great and interesting report. I look forward to your report on the oil analysis of your wife's mini van.
Generally things like this can do damage as they repair one thing. A key comment in the video to me was that the cleaning is done at a slow pace to prevent filters from being plugged up and potentially going into bypass mode.
I'm still have a hard time using a 20 wt oil in a daily driving car. Would be great if you put of a good video as to why I should. I'm a hard one to convince, but I respect that you base your comments on quantitative facts, and you're not acting as a spokes person for one oil company or manufacturer.
Thanks! Stay tuned. We will get there.
I live a mile from the Lexington Valvoline development center. My Dad worked for Ashland Oil in the lab all his career, in Ashland (actually Catlettsburg Kentucky, where this video was recorded) blending gasoline to formulate the correct octane, and I worked there in the #1 refinery as a summer employee when I was an engineering student, so it was interesting to see this product development and testing.
Thanks for sharing!
Great video with crazy amount of science! I have old Hondas and Toyotas (80s & 90s) that would really benefit from this product. Excited to try it. Thanks Lake!
Very interesting, and great information! I am an Analytical Chemist, and have analyzed PAO base-oils, so I appreciate the technology Valvoline has and uses here. I'm a convert! I'll be using Valvoline from now on, just because I see their own engine testing and analysis facilities! Thanks!
Lake this is one of your best videos! I can't wait to get you down to DV's for a Live Chat...
Andy
Very Impressive!! This really gives me something to think about!
Thanks for another great video Lake! When I use up my Costco Kirkland 0W-20 I’m definitely going to give this stuff a try in my Highlander. Looks like your wife’s van has the same V6, so I’m extra exited about seeing your results!
So glad to see this! I bought this oil for my next oil change, but have been curious of the claims. I’ve used Valvoline products for years as well.
So cool to see inside that lab and learn Valvoline are the only ones doing this. I've been thinking about that restore product in my es350 with 200K. I can't wait to see the results from the van with what I'm guessing is my same engine!
Briankalagher, I’m thinking the same thing. I just got a 2012 Honda Accord with 122K miles. Not knowing how well the maintenance was done before I got it, but thankfully the spark plugs and tailpipe show little indication of oil burning, I may use this Valvoline Restore & Protect to help keep the pistons clean. Wish me luck. 🤞🏼
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My father and I have been using valvoline for as long as we’ve been driving. Kentucky proud.
I agree and in Texas it’s all I’ve used all my life
@@attribute-4677 - The video indicated that the Valvoline development lab is in Lexington Kentucky (I live a mile from there) and the Valvoline testing lab is in Ashland Kentucky. Actually, it's in the small town of Catlettsburg, upstream on the Ohio River. My dad worked in the lab at the #2 Refinery in Catlettsburg his entire career, and I worked in the #1 Refinery in Catlettsburg as a summer employee when in engineering school. The Indian company they referenced manufactures test samples of the synthetic chemicals that Valvoline designs, in order for Valvoline to test them to determine if they want to manufacture and use them in their oil. Small scale chemical synthesis is a very specialized job that is best outsourced.
@@attribute-4677 I heard that the bespoke molecular fabs are in India. Those custom chemical structures are formulated into potential products and tested for effectiveness at the lab shown here.
I currently have this exact oil in my Taurus SHO. Great to watch informative video about it
Thanks for watching!
Thank you for the videos. I’ve always been curious/interested in oil technology and how it works.
Fully agree with engine flushes, they have to be done right. I have flushed engines, but after I drain the engine flush oil I fill the engine again and run it for 10min, then change the oil again. That way I make sure all the flush and oil deposits are out before I put the car back on the road. Doing it this way seems to work well. Though I do not plan to flush those engines again, this was a one time deal to remove any crap deposits from the previous owners. I run good oil like Valvoline or redline at shorter change intervals, my engines stay clean.
I flush every other oil change and it works perfectly
@@philliphall5198 Thats a wallet flush bud
Thanks Lake!..your channel is such an awesome educational experience. You talk about the things that I actually want to know...
I love geeking out over these videos!! Pretty cool stuff. I wonder how much quicker your oil filters will get packed up using this oil?
I'm trying it out on my Mustang with tons of varnish in the engine from lack of oil changes, I'm looking forward to seeing how it cleans!
To me, this video validates my decision to run Valvoline products in my vehicles for the last few decades.
Thanks for making this video! I've been waiting for someone with the science behind them to provide an in-depth discussion. I'm test running the 5W-20 Restore and Protect oil in a 2004 Toyota Matrix that has the 1ZZ-FE that has 217K on the clock. Its the revised ring lands version, but I do notice it running quieter and is more responsive in the last 6 weeks.
I'm thinking about using it in my 2004 Toyota matrix xrs with the 2zz-ge, currently using mobile 1 20,000 mile oil on 3k oil changes lol. Any reason you decided to go with 5w-20?
As opposed to the 5W-30 weight? Preference and simplicity with my other vehicles mainly but I live in Colorado cold weather as well and it seems to be happy with it.
Valvoline has always been good at keeping the internals clean, 30 years ago I serviced a Toyota Corolla, I removed the tappet cover to adjust the valves and I couldn't see the rocker gear for sludge build up, I put the tappet cover back on, filled it with Valvoline XLD, next oil change the top end was spotless. My Corolla had worn main journals and would drop oil pressure to 0 when hot, the only oil that held pressure when hot was the XLD 20W50
Very interesting, thanks for posting the video and putting the time involved in the video..👍
Glad you enjoyed it!
The solution for Toyota engines having oil burn problems after certain miles for the low tension rings on their pistons that get stuck for the deposits ...why Toyota doesn't use this type of oil for their OEM oil?
Because sadly they won't meet emission standards in a lot of stricter countries using this oil.
I am dealing with this now with my 2009 2.4 2AEFZ engine. Be interesting if it helps.
I'm curious if this would fix the notorious issue with the 2AZ-FE.
This happens to a lot of engines with 2mm oil rings and tiny holes in the piston to drain it back. The tiniest amount of sludge will create a problem.
DUH!!! Maybe because Valvoline just invented it and Toyota likes to sell you THEIR oil!!! At least they did back when I had my Celica!! 😆
Wonderful geeky content for a Sunday afternoon. Well done!
Glad you enjoyed it!
You're my new favorite channel. Thank you for the information,
Hi from the uk
That is some very interesting chemistry. I used to be a rater / photographer looking at pistons sumps and other engine components for both lube and fuel testing most of the testing we did was governed by the CEC the same as your CrC so I have a good idea of what is involved in industry standard tests and what a pass looks like compared to a fail. There product that cleans piston deposits is it a low friction oil or a low wear oil.
I like the idea of doing a dirty up clean up test on lubes, I still do them on fuels looking at valve deposits
Great vid keep up the good work
Thanks for sharing!
Thanks Lake & Valvoline! One problem with showing it works, is you have to see the rings, and most of us can't. ... Results can be noticed if oil consumption on an old engine goes down though. So, for the old mini-van Lake Speed Jr. is planning on showing later, I wonder if he is prepared to pull a piston or two? That's trouble.
Must give these guys full credit for ATF Maxlife product - it's simply brilliant.
It’s the very best 😊
what have you used it on? ive got an old th-440-4 that runs good, im trying to keep it that way.
@@owenhunt6796 Used it in GM, Hyundai and Mazda so far... automatic shifts very smooth... zero trouble over the years.
How ?
@@emadalkahroosi Transmission runs smooth and gives it extended life.
really excited about this oil. Have it in my Isuzu for almost 3k miles so far. My oil consumption has slowed down a little, but under the filler cap its so much cleaner already. I've tried several different oil flushes before and none have gotten it this clean, then a couple thousand miles into the next oil change and it would be dirty again. Really hope this stuff works as good as they say.
Very good job on this one! Pretty interesting, and lots of really good logic. I will be giving it a try for sure!
*_Motor oil science is getting big! Heck yeah 💯_*
Great video Lake very interesting gotta try this new oil been using Pennzoil ultra platinum with good results 😎👍🏽
Bang for Buck you can’t beat that Pennzoil ultra platinum…Amsoil is the best just a little pricey
@@rellj4369
Amsoil, and in a pinch PUP, is all I use.
I have a 2016 CR-V I take care of and it has about 170,000 miles on it. It consumes a little less than 1 quart a month, which is probably about 2k. I've been using PP 0w-20 on it forever. I think I am going to try this Valvoline for a few changes.
@rellj4369 I hate to trash on American oil companies, being an American, but I've never had better results than using LiquiMoly Molygen oil, combine with Ceratec every 30k miles and you'll see. Used Castrol Edge in our 2016 GTI (OEM Recommended) under the dealer maintenance schedule. That car was very unhappy for a new car. Burned a quart of oil every 3-5k traded it in at 55k for a 2019 VW Golf Alltrack and have completed all maintenance myself. Using LiquiMoly Molygen and Ceratec every 30k miles. Car doesn't lose a drop of oil between changes and the oil looks like it was just changed after 5k miles. The car is driven hard, offroad, bigger turbo, tune, and we've had none of the issues that people commonly report. Whether it's dealer maintenance screwing you to keep you coming back or Castrol oil, who knows. Everyone I've told about Molygen and has switched have all reported large improvements.
I truly hope this valvoline oil will bring us up to par with the German kingpin. I'd prefer to support US Companies
@@zed9160
Having an oil look new after a long time means its a horrible oil.
Just discovered your channel and watched a bunch of videos. They are all so interesting and useful - without as you put it "speculation" and also no homemade tests that may or may not prove or disprove anything. I have a suggestion for two future videos. Both would be very on point for your target market and garner a lot of interest. 1) How long is too long to go without changing motor oil in a vehile that gets limited use, i.e. classic car, summer driver, collector, motorhome or motorcycle. Many people have a car or motorcycle that gets little use mileage wise. Even if the engine in these vehicles are fully warmed up and burn off all the moisture with each use the additive package must be wearing out and oxidizing you discovered in your testing new sealed, but very old oil. I have seen posts and even oil analysis for oils that have been in cars for 2 years plus which show the oil to be good. However, I think that will conventional oil analysis, like Blackstone Labs, the only item they can hang there hat on is the TBN number. You, however, proved that a depleted motor oil could still have a good TBN number. I have a Jeep, motorhome, generator in the motorhome, and three motorcycle that all have limited use in the course of a two year period and I will go up to two years before I change the oil, but perhaps I shouldn't. I think many people could use an answer to this question. 2) There is a huge group of motorcycle owners who use 15-40 diesel engine oil in their bikes - Rotella is very popular, but others will work in bikes with even a shared engine and transmission sump so long as they don't have the energy conserving seal and the additives that come with that since it could cause clutch slippage. At least that is what the greater www community believes. I and a whole bunch of other would very much like to know is the formulation of specialized motorcycle oil really is better than diesel or automotive oil in a bike. I know it is also common to run automotive Valvoline 20-50 in bikes without a shared sump. Please keep up the great work, it is such a breath of fresh air to get some facts rather than opinions!
Tiim and Roger both seem like cool dudes, very knowledgable on their craft. Would love to pick their brains sometime like you did. Great video, thanks for the upload
They are both great guys and very knowledgeable. Thanks for the comment and the kind words!
I assume that when they say that Valvoline is the ONLY oil company with an engine lab, other oil companies use independent laboratories to research the same things. Is that accurate? I’d love to have an inside look at the independent lab. I think that would be more unbiased.
I believe it is true. It is something i have heard even before this video a few years ago.
I could have sworn Mobil 1 had one
@@Hernsama I believe mobil does do engine tests but valvoline actually does the API tests.
Mobil has its own lab.
Edit: maybe Mobil has spun it off at some point, shrug.
AMSOIL has it's own Mechanical Lab, where they test oils in different applications, so they have 3 Dyno's as well! AMSOIL is certified to the14001:2015 ENVIRONMENTAL MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, and they earned a silver medal rating from EcoVadis, the GLOBAL standard for business sustainability ratings. Only the top25% of more than 100,00 COMPANIES evaluated globally, received a medal!
I've used Valvoline oils for about 40 years. They've always been good at creating new products that fill a niche in the market. They had Turbo V that I used in my 1985 Pontiac Sunbird Turbo. They created the High-Mileage oil niche when they introduced MaxLife. Valvoline's oils typically look "meh" when you look at a chemical analysis, but perform well in an engine. They're the stealth oil company.
When I was a development engineer at Cummins, there were literally barrels of Premium Blue on every aisle in the dyno facility. Cummins contributed a lot to my knowledge of motor oil. Almost every car in my fleet is old. I may get around to trying Restore and Protect at some point.
Agree, except in transmission and gear oil. I stay away there.
@@sms4hou676What's wrong with Valvoline's transmission and gear oil?
Awesome video appreciate you taking time explaining teaching us. Do they make that oil for diesels?
Color me impressed! I will be switching from my current oil today! Thanks Geek!
Can you do a video on tips and tricks for really high mileage gasoline engines. My 4Runner has 482,000 on the odometer and I am curious if there are tips other than the ones you have mentioned in previous videos you can share.
Ive been itching for you to look at this stuff... Oh boy im getting the popcorn
I let go of the purple snake oil, and went to mobil 1. Wasnt big on Valvoline and never was sure on Them .. but now I am. Good video
Lake is the GOAT! Thank you for sharing your knowledge and helping us make better decisions for maintaining our rigs. Now I want to run this Valvoline product in my vehicles.
Very impressive! Hopefully Valvoline will have or already has an oil for diesel in 10w-30 & 15W-40 in full synthetic.
Valvoline had the Premium Blue line of Diesel oil a couple of years before they introduced Restore and Protect. Restore and Protect is based on the success of Premium Blue. In fact, the story goes, when Cummins had issues with buildup in a specific line of their engines, they told their customers they would only warranty the engines if they used Valvoline Premium Blue because it was that good at cleaning deposits. They have it both in 10w-30 and 15w-40.
@@moshet842 Awesome! Thanks!
@moshet842 so which one is the one that plugged up the filters and cats that he was talking about that restore and protect learned from? Is it still available?