Thinking Of Taking on TORO Products? Watch This First
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- Before becoming a TORO dealer you might wanna watch this here video. There's a few things to know before taking on their product line and how it works but Taryl's gonna key you in to what they require in order to maximize selling their products. What do you think of TORO's policies? Let us know in the comments section. And There's Your Dinner!!
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Taryl’s got the 411 on Home Depot’s battery plan here: czcams.com/video/gawZcNxS2So/video.html&feature=sharea
Wheel Horse had a battery powered garden tractor back in the 70's, a neighbor down the road still has one.
looks like its time to blacklist TORO and any company that does this crap they need to learn they are not in control for me its how they are going about it that's not ok
Lithium is a finite resource and non-renewable.
Hey Taryl you ever seen a voice break a wine glass? That thing lets go all at once Like ever clear chased not tasted by a few dozen beers with your buddies and bet 10 bucks you can bead up any mower tire After betting he brings out a old deformed from setting flat half dozen years old mtd tire Better judgement long gone Jack ass giggling like a girl he knows he is getting your money You empty half of the 20% more can with lighter in one hand air hose in other know you better air it quick What happens next is same with that wine glass Where did all that glass go you know! All that little stuff that makes up glass are crazy close together Its like the closer your buddy gets them big n52s you got from flea bay while your giggling knowing your getting that 10 bucks back To boot you dont have to say a word to rub it in Them fingers looking like split open over done real poop shoot sausages will be seen by all!!!! That strong force holding that glass together is over powered that voice putting more in faster than it can get out The voice don't have at the same vibration pitch frequency as the glass Just like pushing a swing or several small waves adding up to make a big one when playing in the tub Here is your free beer in glass bottle so cold when you pop the top millions of little ice crystals form after tearing off three layers of shingles on the hottest day of the year That wine glass thing can be done the same on other thing things with crazy low amps If i was to drink water on a hot day i would not fall for that salts lie pure water is best on hot day They say that like way up where them giant beer cans go under low pressure and cold tiny tiny specs of water freeze instantly even more so with h and few goose eggs join back up and spit out Like light and floating around dust bright led flash light because lazy wife and all her crap setting around every just waiting to avalanche when you walk by Then comes supper glue and no fingerprints That is my take on they are pushing battery crap alone with they know it will not last and they get more of your money Some dumb a_ _ hillbilly like me can finger out the never ending nonsense to most How long till common knowledge NOW THERES YOUR DINNER along with understanding what ONLY the biggest part of the reason you fill like a bug when looking up lol lol I am ben not amber taryl i am writing on wifes you tube i took a estwing to my cell several years ago truth!
Hey Taryl you ever seen a voice break a wine glass? That thing lets go all at once Like ever clear chased not tasted by a few dozen beers with your buddies and bet 10 bucks you can bead up any mower tire After betting he brings out a old deformed from setting flat half dozen years old mtd tire Better judgement long gone Jack ass giggling like a girl he knows he is getting your money You empty half of the 20% more can with lighter in one hand air hose in other know you better air it quick What happens next is same with that wine glass Where did all that glass go you know! All that little stuff that makes up glass are crazy close together Its like the closer your buddy gets them big n52s you got from flea bay while your giggling knowing your getting that 10 bucks back To boot you dont have to say a word to rub it in Them fingers looking like split open over done real poop shoot sausages will be seen by all!!!! That strong force holding that glass together is over powered that voice putting more in faster than it can get out The voice don't have at the same vibration pitch frequency as the glass Just like pushing a swing or several small waves adding up to make a big one when playing in the tub Here is your free beer in glass bottle so cold when you pop the top millions of little ice crystals form after tearing off three layers of shingles on the hottest day of the year That wine glass thing can be done the same on other thing things with crazy low amps If i was to drink water on a hot day i would not fall for that salts lie pure water is best on hot day They say that like way up where them giant beer cans go under low pressure and cold tiny tiny specs of water freeze instantly even more so with h and few goose eggs join back up and spit out Like light and floating around dust bright led flash light because lazy wife and all her crap setting around every just waiting to avalanche when you walk by Then comes supper glue and no fingerprints That is my take on they are pushing battery crap alone with they know it will not last and they get more of your money Some dumb a_ _ hillbilly like me can finger out the never ending nonsense to most How long till common knowledge NOW THERES YOUR DINNER along with understanding what ONLY the biggest part of the reason you fill like a bug when looking up lol lol I am ben not amber taryl i am writing on wifes you tube i took a estwing to my cell several years ago truth!
This has nothing to do with the environment, but it has everything to do with control.
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Excellent
Has everything to do with MONEY
China is buying up all the mineral rights in Africa. They'll be making all the batteries.
Has everything to do with making profit off trends
Years ago when I had my RV and mobile home repair business, one of my wholesale suppliers, in their infinite wisdom, told their dealers that they needed to buy a minimum of $10,000 per year to remain a customer and be able to buy parts wholesale.
First of all I was a small guy and in the 1990's didn't buy that much in a whole year.
What the wholesaler found out was that 80% to 90% of their customers were small mom and pop businesses and didn't do that much in sales but together made up the core of the wholesale RV and mobile home parts business.
It only took until the next quarter to find that out as their profits nosedived. The wholesaler backpeddled saying the dealers only need to buy $5,000 a year. But by then, a lot of dealers had gone over to another supplier who had no minimum. They didn't care how much you bought and their wholesale supply business took off.
A few months later the wholesaler got rid of the minimum but by then the damage was already done.
They're still in business trying hair brained schemes to maximize profits and failing miserably.
@freetolook.....I like to hear stories like this one. Some know-it-all "daddy's girl", or young college "wiz" comes along and thinks that they know it all, and talk some executive into trying some hair brained, foolish idea out....not carrying, or knowing, about their actual customers....and it KILLS THEM! Serves them right. As far as the battery powered stuff, I like it due to the lack of noise, but have not had a history of good luck with anything powered by batteries. I just don't feel that true "battery power" for our cars, boats, mowers, etc is just "not ready" yet, and won't be until SOLAR technology catches up and can provide unlimited....FREE....power. Until then, people are just being sold another scam to make the Rothchilds, Rockefellers, Gates, Zuckerbergs, and that whole rich tribe richer than they already are, so they can go on paying off all our politicians and stealing elections.
In Sunny BONBEACH Melbourne Victoria Australia the shops now only supply paper carrying bags and the plastic bags are no more. It’s crazy thinking, all our food products are sold in plastic bottles and packs, …WTF!!! We have to put all our plastic purchases into a paper carrybag…! Crazy!
Some idiot with a piece of paper from a University saying they are a Marketing Expert has come up with this winner. Just rem this, U R THE CUSTOMER, u have the money. U either buy or dont buy as u choose. Mr Piece of paper will learn the hard way.
I happen to like gas powered small engine equipment. They’re easy to refuel and I like working on them plus I like the sounds they make.
Every battery powered thing I have bought with the exception of rechargeable drills, has had the battery crap out in months and replacement batteries cost more separately than the who shebang cost in the first place. All my mowers, trimmers, shears etc are gasoline powered as a result.
@@partymanau Stihl batteries have a 3 year warranty. If you live in a cold climate, store them inside over the winter. Quality batteries will last a very long time if you don't abuse them. Makita tools use Sony battery cells. So far, mine have lasted 15yrs. Bosch uses Samsung cells, and so does Dewalt. Not sure who's cells Milwaukee uses. As long as they are brands like Sony, Samsung, LG, Panasonic/Sanyo, the batteries will last a long time.. So, don't buy a cheap home depot electric mower.
Taryl - you made SO MANY great points about why battery stuff isn't the greatest idea. I loath the way companies make batteries obsolete for perfectly good tools.
Here in Canada, you can get a Ego mower for 1 000$ CAD.
Not if, but when the battery'll go bad, its replacement cost is 500$ cad.
Insane prices when a good gas mower is 600$ and can last 20+ years with minimal maintenance
Exactly. And the gas mower is nearly 100% recyclable and repairable.
@@frotobaggins7169 that's why the gov't and company's want us to have cheap plastic crap more taxes and more buying and probably rolling blackouts so you cant charge your equipment
The more reviews I read about Ego batteries, the more suspect I get. Also be aware that there are insider reviews on the major retail websites as you see widely different types of positive and negative reviews. Ego has 5 year warranty, but if it takes twisting their arm to get a new battery and a long wait with a possible annoying haggling over the phone. then it's BS.
It's not about "saving the environment" or "stopping climate change", it's about control over the population.
my last honda self propelled lasted like 15 years. I SMASHED a rock and bent the crank shaft. It still runs but shakes and I use it to mow the rough parts. My new honda is fantastic. Battree is good and bad. My weed wacker is a dewalt and I like it very much. I have a small chainsaw that has battery and its awesome for small quick stuff. I have a leaf blower that is battery and a BIG echo 9010t that is gas. IF im blowing off my deck I dont need a HUGE back pack blower. its nice to use a light battery blower to do some small work. why not just have both... You can buy a gas car or electric why is this such a big deal. Company's CANT just drop the gas stuff.. it has a place for sure.
My brother picked up the zero turn Ryobi for mowing his 4 acres. Upon his first use after about mowing half, he has to recharge because when the batteries get low enough you have no choice. He borrowed my 18 year old John Deere L111 to finish mowing his lawn.
My Dad always told us, "Never buy the first version of anything. It's not perfected yet."
Great videos, Taryl.
Electric mower for a small yard is ok but a 4 acre lot!!!! That’s on you for such a bad decision
@@chestnutlouie4709 Try reading before you post.
The biggest shock I had looking at an electric mower, is it was FULL of digital displays that use electricity.
That is counterproductive.
Sounds like the mower I saw on another channel said he bought a ryobi and found out it used lead acid batteries. They was crap and never lasted long and then next season the batteries was dead and had to replace.
And every year his batteries will have less power !!!
I'm very "squeamish" about having too many damn lithium batteries inside/around my home, especially lithium polymer! I've already had the batteries on several devices SWELL UP like they were nine months pregnant! I'm also with you on HATING cell phones! I don't own one myself but I can definitely see all of us being forced now into owning one as we are loosing more and more of our freedom and privacy! Much easier to spy and keep tabs on us by always having one "glued" to us all of the time!
Just replaced a pregnant lithium polymer battery last week
I can just see Lithium batteries in water going down well
If u dont charge the things the batteries gas out and swell. Not a fan of this generation of batteries. Will wait for them to get the tech right.
I put Scotch tape over the selfie camera. Don't want China cloning my ugly face. 😂
The bad batteries go in a bin outside. I waited a year before poking them with a nail. They still hot red hot and sizzled. I tossed em in a bucket of water and those bubbled for several days. Wow
Let me start by saying I love your videos. The humor goes a long way with me. I am a handy old timer and there have been quite a few times you showed me things I would never have figured out. As a homeowner I find with hand held two stroke powered equipment the ethanol gas is tough on them. You have to empty the tank after every use and setting the L+H speed mixtures requires a magician. Especially if the tool is older and you had to buy a carburetor made in China. I know buy engineered fuel for that small stuff. But that fuel isn't cheap. I think when it is time to upgrade my weed wacker and leaf blower I will go electric. My chainsaw not so much. However the average person can not be bothered to empty out the pump gas /oil and those people will do better with battery power. I live on the east coast and every winter , neighbors and family are calling me because they left gas in their snowblower and it won't start. They should make it easy to drain the tank but that is a comment for a different video. Watching your video got the old wheels turning. There is a need for fireproof storage for battery powered devices. My neighbor is into building electric powered toy cars and trucks. I have done some soldering for him. Those toys draw 80 amps ! He always stores the battery in purpose built bags. I don't know about you but I don't think parking your Tesla in the garage under your living room is a great idea.
Find an ethanol free fuel supplier if you have one near you. You won't have any issues if you use that fuel and you should use premium as oil reduces the octane of gas. Got over 25 years out of my Stihl weedeater before it ever needed to go to a shop. Carb was done for and had to replace it with a different style as the original was unavailable. Same goes for my 024. Never been in the shop.
I was planning in becoming an Echo dealer when my shop was open till they told me, I had to purchase a lot of parts up front. Then they said I had to do warrantee work for Home Depot, And use the parts I paid for. Then after submitting the warrantee forms they could deny them. Causing me to lose my parts plus labor. Then my price for equipment was more than Home Depot`s sale price to the customer. I looked at him then laughed at him then showed him the door. Shortly after that customers started coming to my shop saying Home Depot told them I would warrantee their Echo Equipment. I laughed and said Hope Depot does not own my shop nor do I do warrantee work for Echo. They said where do I take it, I said you should have though about that before to bought it. You got a cheap price, Now you have to figure out who`s going to warrantee it. Have a nice day.
I agree and I’m not doing warranties period
Cash or walk off
Piss on the big box stores
Charge a repair subscription. Maybe someone could figure that out.....😅
Warranty
@@HDXFH OOPS my bad. LOL
I have always felt that a written warrantee is just a good waste of toilet paper! If it buy it cheap, I assume that if it breaks, I’ll be fixing it! I can count on one hand how many products and machines I’ve had break under warrantee; I can’t count high enough for all the things that broke “just past” warrantee!
Sounds like blackmail to me. "Buy THIS stuff or we'll screw you big time". Time to tell that dealer to get lost then. Until the COST of these batteries and the equipment become affordable you can forget people switching over. That's a fact. There's a big difference between the cost of a Dewalt drill and a $600 or more lawn mower. Or a $1,500+ snowblower.
Also until they all switch to LiFePo4 batteries there is always a fire risk. Some people are stupid and use either "reconditioned" batteries or use chargers that are not meant for the batteries. This is the main causes of most Lithium fires. LiFePo4 batteries do not have that problem, it's MUCH safer technology.
Ti's black mail legal bullshit... should be not allowed , though aslong as some fear to tread then it will continue, only way to change is for public to stand tall !! And unite
@wayne7521 exactly and that's exactly why they try to hard to keep us divided in every way possible.
sounds like they need the bud-light affect
Extortion. Blackmail is threatening to expose secrets.
And the shit don’t last
Years ago as a small RV repair business, I never sold an RV awning for the first five years.
The reason being that the awning manufacturers had discounts on quantity purchases. So, as a little guy there was no way I could be competitive. My cost was higher than what Camping World was selling them at retail.
I had no problem with my customers buying the awning from them because I made money installing it.
Then all of a sudden, in a reversal for the little guy, I was selling RV awnings. I found out the reason why was that the awning manufacturers now had across the board pricing no matter how many you bought. All of a sudden price wasn't the defining factor, service was and now I could compete with the big guys.
That's why little guys can't compete. Corporations now define wholesale prices rather than the manufacturers.
I was approached by Toro to become a dealer and warranty center,after listening to the terms, the costs of the different plans and the profit margins for each. He was seriously pushing the battery powered units,I told him that my customers wouldn't buy that stuff,because they had already tried them and were NOT happy with them at all!! All I could do was shake my head,then laugh at the fellow,then showed him the door and told him NEVER to come back!! I asked this rep if the batteries caught on fire who was going to foot the bill,boy did he squirm like a worm and he asked me if I had insurance on my business,so that pretty much told that the repair replacement of my shop would be out of my pocket,not to mention the increase of my insurance of my shop for having them,(LiPo,LiFe batteries), on the premises!!
Best video yet. Tayrl keepin it real...we must resist the Li-on battery trend it's ae dark path.
The Hand Writing is on the Wall ! Taryl is playing it "Fair" and is under the "Thumb" of the Big Corporations that are under the 1% World Economic Forum and Klaus Schwab and those slimy, slithering, Satanists !
in the Late 90's, there was a small Polaris dealer a few miles from me. Where I had bought one of my snowmobiles, parts, supplies, etc. I went there later in the year, to buy some stuff for the oncoming winter season, only to find no more Polaris snowmobiles, signs or much of anything else. Turned out the factory wanted the store to take a bunch of stuff, more than the usual slow sellers he didn't want. The owner booted Polaris out, was selling off all his stock, and that was that. I bought probably at least 5 or 6 gallons of good Polaris Blue oil. I got out of motor sports in around 2006, and sold my snowmobiles and all, but I had so much of the oil, at least 3 gallons left, that I'm still using it in my two strokes lawn and garden equipment today.
Taryl, I totally agree with your outlook. I am of the same feeling about the subject. I work on gas powered equipment also, just for myself, and my neighbours. Also, I am sure that you are aware of the fact that when the battery dies, you go to buy a new one, and its three quarters the cost of the tool. Anyway, I enjoy your comnments, and I did not even consider the fact of equipment in the shop catching fire.
As always thanks and have a great day!!!.
Taryl: I believe this is one of the best videos that you have ever done in this matter! It is serious subject, and we are all going to be affected by it. Strangely, today, my grandson brought me his 1989 Homelite 25cc leave blower that quit running. I found that the pickup fuel line that was in the fuel tanks was broken off. I replaced this short piece of fuel line, and nothing else, and it is running great! How much would a battery replacement be? Battery available? For now, I am sticking with my old crap! Great video on a great subject.
Yes, I do have a cordless impact screw gun and drill. That's only because they haven't come out with a two-stroke engine powered one yet.
Actually they did have those in the 60s/70s
First cordless drills were gas powered, my grandpa had one, it was one off the first on the market
@@M.TTT. LOL i back you up on that 100% correct and by the way they still do have 2 stroke power tools
WRONG!
Don't act like a moron, when you get your 2 cycle drill. Close all your windows and remodel your entire house with it.
I have a a straight shaft echo trimmer I bougt 15 years ago and still runs great- same with my handheld Stihl blower. Looks like it's time to buy one more set of gas equipment to last me to the end.
I have the exact same setup and have only adjusted the carb on the blower once and have run the Echo on 2 year old gas a time or two. Awesome stuff.
When that California mandate came out, I bought a new PAS-225 and brush attachment. Just ordered the torque string attachment but got a factory defect. The SRM-225 I bought five years ago has been a real workhorse with very little maintenance (2 air filters and finding the right mix oil).
I'm trying to locate another set of Makita blowers and trimmers, now. Unfortunately they stopped making gas powered stuff. My blower and trimmer are great and will probably last another 10 years. It's a shame in thinking about backup sets.
I have extra set also hanging ready to go, my Husqvarna trimmer is 13 years old ,Thousands of hours on it, and same for blower, extra set to get me to my end
Taryl, you couldn't have not seen how this is shaping up. Thank God you have what Mom and Dad gave you!
I 100% agree with everything you said, I have battery-operated small handheld yard equipment, weedeater, hedger, chainsaw, etc. All of which are the Delwalt brand, then I got stupid and thought you know what, I love my handheld tools so much that are battery operated I should get a riding tractor that's also battery operated. BOY WAS I WRONG! I bought a Cub Cadet (properly the brand you're talking about that your friend bought and they won't warranty the batteries) XT1 LT42E, I unpacked it and went to turn it on and it had TWO error codes right out of the dayum box! I literally just unpacked the dayum thing... When you call up HD or Cub Cadet they tell you to take it to a dealer and every dealer within 100 miles will NOT work on any electric mowers! So now I have a 5k mower I can't use! Total waste of money I will NEVER buy Cub Cadet mowers ever again!
Go Taryl!
I live in Sweden and we sure see this things coming. Worst is the part when battery’s take a crap and can’t be replaced because of new models just like u say.
I believe in good equipment and good guys fixing them, and make fun videos about it;;))
Nice to see swedes write here. I can just agree with what you say for sure :)
I had 3 bosch drills, all had same motor and base shape, all had different battery and charger. Could not swap and share. Bought AEG now as the battery and chargers are not changed in years.
The UN is behind that crap. Agenda 2030.
I'll keep running my old two stroke Merc with 30:1 mix in it and pull it to the ramp with my deleted diesel pickup, then when I get home I'll mow my lawn with my old snapper mower with 30:1 mix and a sticker of Greta on the recoil shroud.😊
Eat the bugs
@@jesusdrummer21 Eat more beef, and chicken!
My great grandfather had some land around a old gold mining town in Australia and he had hundreds and hundreds of old engine's cars, tractors, forklifts tons of really really old goodies anyway love your videos taryl keep on making
I agree Taryl I was in powersports and it was the same way. When one manufacturer started doing some shady BS they all ended up doing it.
It appears they’re just trying to cram it down our throat. They’re not necessarily paying attention to demand, if demand was there, they wouldn’t have to force it into the dealers.
That, on top of the fact that most of these items are still expensive, I don’t see how this will work in the short term.
Grass Rats forever!
Gas Grass Rats forever
It's all about control, not actually stopping "climate change" (the climate has always changed).
why would they care about demand? they just want to sell mowers
@@alexstromberg7696
Basic supply and demand theory.
And you’re right, that was the point of my comment.
If successful "they" will eventually control you 100%
This is just a prelude.
My grass grows like crazy and can get thick especially if it rains more often. Even a 190cc gas powered mower can choke on that sometimes, I know electric motors can have more torque but something tells me they wont handle it as well, or even if they do it will use more energy to get through the thick grass.
I think the upper end battery mowers "can" do it, but they cost 2-3 times as much and the batteries cost even more - which you'll need several to do what a gas mower can do on one tank.
@@M.TTT.yes exactly. Battery probly costs 1000.00. And you need a backpack full of batteries to finish a job.
Nothing is more fun than having your electric mower die in the middle of a cut, and having to stop for hours to charge it back up. Instead of pouring a little gas into the machine and getting right back to it in a matter of a couple of minutes.
Of course, the EPA does not take that into account. I cut lawns for $$$. I use 190 CC engines, but of course, I use a 460 cc kawasaki that will cut just about anything. And a ZTR with a 678 cc engine. It is as if the country would rather have more and more of us cutting people's lawns because the equipment available to the average home owner is out of their price range, or knowledge of usage. I would not own what I own if I did not do it for $$$.
You should be able to rent one easily enough. That way you can find out for certain if they're up to the task or not.
Taryl, you are a thinking man and a listening man. You made a whole bunch of really good points in this video. Having worked for 33 years in a chemical plant, I can guarantee you that battery manufacturing and recycling are very messy and hazardous undertakings. And like the question about where the electricity will come from, nobody is interested in hearing about it. Even if the manufacturing and recycling take place in China, there is still the question of electrical power generation in this country. Here's what I think: we are well on the way to becoming a third-world country, and ain't nobody gonna be worrying about cutting grass, or maybe even driving a car. This will solve the major problems with electric powered stuff. We just gonna be looking for something to eat.
You're right Taryl, this battery bs is coming and coming fast! And I don't like it! You can't tell me, that gas powered equipment is THAT harmful to the environment. It's ridiculous. I'll keep my gas stuff running as long as I have two hands to do it.
Here's a story for ya, just yesterday, I went to the Echo dealer to get a chainsaw. The salesman tried to sell me a battery one.... It was $550.00 (roughly) I told him there ain't no way in hell I'm paying that much!
I bought me a CS-400! Couldn't be happier!
The good thing about battery power, if your shop catches fire, the smoke from the batteries is environmentally friendly.
Right? I've little to no fear of my gas equipment spontaneously combusting, but these battery's give me anxiety if I don't store them in a fire proof case - and even then, if they go up, now I'm out several hundred dollars! It's insane.
@@M.TTT.yeah I have to keep my lithium rc car batteries in a metal ammo box. I'm afraid they may spontaneously combust. I think a burning battery has more of a toxic smoke than gasoline. Lithium batteries fires are also really hard to extinguish.
If you sell a Battery power Mower to a customer and catch fire and his house burns down the question is Who is Responsible the Show owner or the manufacturer ????
@@rogerstlaurent8704 yeah, good question. Does the warranty cover damage from fires? If it did I think manufacturers would go out of business.
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When I think of battery lawn mowers I remember the Dewalt riding
mower catching fire at the expo in Indiana .
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You have some very good points. I've been telling people if they buy battery equipment buy something they can get betterys for. What ever cordless tools you have buy a trimmer that takes the same battery.
I agree with what you are saying. I live in California and the State is forcing the battery power equipment down our throats. I use chainsaws every day. Yes, I have tried Battery power saws, but I'm not going to change. Not the same. Hand tools, OK but some of the battery ones just don't last under any condition other than the backyard application.
I live & work in the Sierra foothills, and I just don't see it. Sure it's new and it will get better, but why do we have to walk away from what has worked. They will never take my saw.
The best thing for me that I bought was a 4 cycle trimmer and leaf blower , no mixing of fuel and they sip gasoline . I went threw 2 battery powered blowers ,they were junk . Thanks Tayrl .
I have a garage full of small gasoline engine toys. I feel like these days I’ll wake up tomorrow and hear all gas engines are BANNED. The world’s going crazy.
Said the same people all those years ago when that pesky horseless carriage came along. Such fools that think like flat earthers.
My uncle has a country place that no one knows about...
They're paying off the corporations to control our lives and force a battery revolution before we are ready.
It'll be a helluva lot worse than banned tools if these "people" get their way with humanity.
Have you looked at the crazy weather lately thats all caused by climate change, small engines produce more pollution than a modern 4 cyl car, you either get with the times or you fall behind, i dont like it either but it is happening whether we like it or not. The rest of the world is already moving foward
Taryl am with you on this one. I can handle the battery powered tools, even though I have a small yard I don’t want a battery powered lawnmower, stick edger, or string trimmer. I think the batteries are going to go to shit after many recharges and then I stuck with a bunch of expensive batteries that don’t last 10 minutes and I have to recycle and replace so that I can keep using the equipment. I have a 1994 two stroke lawnboy that runs perfect and I am not giving up my lawnboy for no battery operated equipment !
I learned years ago, if it makes you money or saves your life get a spare. Breaking in 3 pairs of boots takes a month. Now it’s time to clean and oil all pairs. Take 2 pair oiled and put them in your secure dry storage (wine cellar , moonshine cubby, shtf food supply. Same goes with hand tools etc.
Yes I have 4 1991 stihl saws with oil in fuel tank, carb, engine. I call it mothball. I start my gene every month for 3 minutes because I might need it.
Great video, some call me stupid for having extra battery’s I only charge once a month, or having a battery tender running my 68 darts battery
There’s always LP gas for IC engines. It wouldn’t work well for some applications such as a chain saw, but it works fine for lawn mowers. I’ve seen commercial cutters using LP powered ZTR’s. In fact I own an LP powered weed eater. It’s a 4 cycle that runs on camping cylinders. In fact I’m on my second season running off the same tank, so fuel cost is very low. The only down side is the weight, being a four stroke engine plus the weight of the tank. Another plus is that it always starts on the second pull, even after sitting all winter. No carb to clean or rebuild, or fuel lines to rot out and be replaced.
Here in Colorado Toro has been booted by most dealers because of their relationship with HomeDepot, I’m guessing they’re not able to strong arm big box stores that are driven by profit only.
Homeless Depot has gone “woke”, too…….they are broken…….ESG is a cancer, out to DESTROY us!
Yep profit only for their junk
Hey Taryl!! First off, I love the video! Thanks! Secondly, I am old school! I am a early 70's model. I own John Deere lawn equipment that is over 15 years old. I maintain my equipment meticulously and it all runs flawlessly. I am not liking this electric movement. I hope to get many more years of use out of my equipment. Maybe I should buy a new gas powered lawn tractor and put it up in storage before I can't get one???? 🤔
First I would like to say thank you for your informative videos. I find the tips and tricks to be equally valuable. The time and money you have saved myself alone is worth mentioning. I hope you get through to everyone. I see you are trying very hard to. You are using this platform the way it's intended.
Good insights from the dealers perspective. One more issue i have seen is the battery in whatever tool goes bad, you can still get it, but the battery is as expensive, if not more expensive than buying a whole new tool, because the manufacturer wants you to buy the updated tool. Often, rebuilding battery packs is also more pricey than just buying the new tool.
Or the battery that comes with the tool is say a 2 ah battery but to replace the battery all you can buy is a 6 ah battery that costs more than your weekly paycheck.
Absolutely a great suggestion...and something to think about..
People don't think 🤔 and realize it's all to be disposable and profitable for the companies and government agencies..
Thank you
Thanks Taryl now you've made me afraid to store my new Skill weed eater and blower batteries in my shed or the wife's garden shed because it's up against the house, but she didn't want gasoline powered because she could never get it started. And my neighbor just bought a E-GO walk behind and stores it in his garage that is only 6 ft. away from my garage, I bought a Toro Recycler, I love it , I suppose you are going to tell me the new design self propel on it won't last!
Great break down Taryl. Grass rat Captain here. I agree, even non commercial applications so say for a person that has 1.5 to 2 acres rural property electric stuff just will not cut it to maintain your grounds. Show me an electric blower that can even come close to the run time of a Stihl BR 550. - i can run my BR wide open for 1hr and 15min on one tank of fuel. NO electric equivalent with the 550s performance - power can compare. Same thing I have a 066 Magnum Stihl Chainsaw with 24 bar running full skip chains. It incredible powerful gas saw- no electric saw will ever be able to compare. Whats For DInner?
I rebuilt my 12 volt battery for my 3/8" drill. The battery wasn't available any more but the drill itself worked perfect. Cost me about $42 for the cells and a couple hours soldering. First time I've done it and will take less time next time. There should be shops repairing and replacing these things. The cells are much cheaper than buying a whole new battery. Not difficult either.
The problem is it cost you $42 for the batteries, it would cost another $40 to pay someone for doing the work, that makes it more practical to buy a new one. Likely cheaper. The battery op industry is a disposable industry. I would replace my old cells but most will not.
@@frotobaggins7169 I didn't get my batts. wholesale. I'd be willing to bet the retail price for these batteries from Taiwan is 3 or 4 times the cost of making them. NiCd batts. Taryl was talking about the cost of discounts to repair shops like his. Materials for repairing the batteries like the solder tabs or the welding tabs are very cheap. I also think that the time for fixing a 10 or 12 cell battery could be in the neighborhood of 20 minutes or so. Train a monkey to do it or repair them in slack time. Could have some "remanned" batts. in stock too. Just a couple thoughts of what could be. I don't think that battery power is the greatest but it's coming so we need to embrace it and be prepared.
Batteries will die over time yes. Each brand has their own style of battery, they are not universal. As Taryl said some brands are doing away with old style to new style batteries that will no longer fit older equipment. So my question is what do you with an old working charger that will not work for the new style batteries?????? $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Our stupid mandating government needs to mandate that all battery operated tools be the same per voltage of the tool. Like they did computer connections.
From what I've seen the cells in the batteries are all the same. I haven't tore one down and replaced bad cells yet but I will, just a matter of time.
I like your attitude! One of the reasons I watch.
We live in the country area of Maryland. So far most lawn services are still using Gas powered equipment. I own one old Ariens tractor that runs like a champ. Pulls a small trailer around our 1 acre of ground. My newest is a 22 Hp Hyqvarna tractor. All my trimmers and blowers are Echo brands all gas operated. Even my large 20 year old snow blower runs on gas and starts and runs in the worst condition. My secret is using fresh clean fuel and run a complete service every couple months.
I retired from the OPE/Farm Equipment Industry on 9/11/21. We sold our dealership after 42 years in 2004. Was offered a good position with the local John Deere dealership, so selling was in my best interest. Had a good career with both. Like you I was skeptical of the battery equipment. I've said for years ... who master the battery, will own the OPE market. It's easy to design an build a trimmer ,,, but a battery that's a whole other matter. To me Ryobi has "cracked" the nut, I like the 18 volt series, and am a owner of a lot of Ryobi products. Battery Maintenance is critical, don't throw a hot battery on a charger, especially a rapid charger. Let you batteries cool down overnight before charging ... or be ready to replace them. Another battery challenge ... they (36vt, 40vt, 60vt, etc) don't like cold weather, you need to store them in a place that stays around 50 to 100 degrees. The bigger batteries unlike the 18 volt batteries don't like cold weather an discharge completely and then ... won't take a charge. As for a 21" battery walk behind, I have to give Toro the top spot. Toro's self propelled system is what they've used for years, a v belt to the tranny .. not a ele/motor. Also, no plastic fan with break off points to replace, a standard blade adapter. Those two things I don't believe will be found on other battery mowers. Taryl you mentioned a place always for gas .... weight is too an issue. My Red Max gas trimmer weights in at about 10 pounds, most of the battery trimmers come in at 11 to 13 pounds that competes ... I have a mile of fence I trim up around,and that 3 pounds makes a difference after about 30 minutes. Another sore spot, battery or electric string heads ... Weed Eater about 40 years ago brought out that tap-n-go head with the 3" bumper ball ... BOMB-PROOF, easy to refill, lasts forever. I've got about 20 of'em in my Grass Rat Arsenal, adapting to most trimmers is easy. Husqvarna now owns Weed Eater, why don't they bring back that great trimmer head ? Husky, if you see this you'd make millions of dollars and own the string head business if you bring this head back into production.
There's no secret sauce to building good battery packs. Lithium cells haven't changed very much over the years, and have been used in laptops for decades, cordless tools, and even in electric cars for at least 10 years now too. They're all basically the same cells, and the same things keep them happy - low temperature, and moderate charge / discharge rates. Laptop batteries don't last as long as they're run at higher charge / discharge rates and don't have active cooling. The same cells in a car last many times longer because each individual cell is run at much lower charge / discharge rates, and they have active temperature control. The reason they don't do that in tools or OPE is because the battery is a recurring revenue stream - like printer ink and razor blades. Plus with slightly different connectors, they can decide when they're going to force you to buy new tools too, not just new batteries. The whole thing is a scam - not the batteries themselves, but everything else around it.
Thankyou taryl for the info
I am so glad I learned to rebuild and make batteries for tools.. I will never do the "sealed batteries" or "new improved tools so just upgrade"
Thanks torque test channel!
Thank you Taryl. Thank you for providing facts. Keep up the good work
For the old dewalt tools with the big 18v packs, you csn get an adapter from dewalt to use the new style 20v batterys.
I’m interested but the kit is expensive and has poor reviews
You make all good points!
I love my battery power tools, but you know what I love more? Not being forced into a purchasing decision by the government.
Governments are subsidizing this crapp
I have used toro equipment for years and have always gave them a good word to anyone I know who’s looking for lawn equipment. Not no more. Im done. I’ll keep my recycler until it evaporates
You are exactly Right Brother. I don't want a riding mower that is Battery powered. I have a battery powered Small hand blower. That's all the battery powered yard equipment I need. Great Information Taryl! Have a Great 4th of July.
Hi Taryl. The government's of this world should insist that all battery manufacturers adopt a universal connection for every battery they produce. All our home appliances come with a universal plug why not batteries as well. Can you imagine how many perfectly good power tools could be saved from being dumped unnecessary. Take care.
I get it, I love it, but it's a horrible idea to have to build future tools around a battery that's available today. Imagine all our small battery powered electronics and gizmos if they all had to use C and D size batteries instead of AAA, AA, watch/coin batteries, and custom rechargeable battery packs.
It's like saying they should only have 6 sizes or oil filter. Small medium and large diameter with long and short option of each. No reason they need 6000 different sized oil filters.
Same goes with brakes or any consumable part.
Engineering at it finest.
Same for 12v and 82v?
@@MJorgy5 yeah, too many voltages for a universal charger.
Still trusting governments to do ANYTHING? You're a fool. Look... Nobody is coming to save us. ESPECIALLY "governments". It's up to us.
It's us... or them. Choose very carefully.
One of the channels I follow is cruising the cut. It’s about narrow boats in England on the canals they’ve been switching over to electric, narrow boats lately.
The gas powered weed eater and chainsaw are cordless. We latched onto the battery drills and impacts to be free of cords and hoses. Comparing battery drills to battery weed whackers is an apples and oranges deal.
I agree with your take on this green power stuff. I’m pretty sure it won’t happen but if all dealers stick together and say “N O !” to the companies. Things would change. Money talks-bullshit walks!
Thanks for your perspective. 😊
Excellent
GE made a tractor in the 70’s that was all electric called the Elek-trak. It’s been around for awhile and not going away.
All very good points. About the time you think you know all the issues, another pops up. Like a new product in a crate is no good after a couple of years and the manufacturer will not take it back. A gasoline powered crated unit can last for decades.
Spot on well done 👍 keep doing this mate
Also as you already know they are limiting the replacement part availability. It will force us to switch to battery powered. The plan is already in place to make our gas powered unusable. First the parts are made cheaper then no longer available.
I'm with you Taryl, Battery Power is good for somethings, but definitely not everything 👍🏻
Naaah, when you need some serious power electric is crap.
From personal experience with batteries… I hate em. Things constantly dying, & constant hassle. “Ah 💩 it’s dead again, gotta wait for it to charge.”
Like you said Taryl. Commercial stuff has to be gasoline.
A perfect example is semi trucks. A semi truck making long haul trips owned by a company will get driven by several different drivers on the route.
The truck is driven 10hrs by 1 driver. Pulls into the yard, & the driver switches. Engine stays running, & it keeps going. The truck will be running for days at a time before it gets shut off.
EV semis have a range of maybe 100 miles if ur lucky. It’s terrible, & what happens when it catches fire… the carbon the EV saved became a net zero cuz it caught fire, & now it’s emitting hazardous chemicals.
You are right. I have an electric push mower. It is 3or 4 years old. I no longer use it because the batteries cost to much. They also only last the full time only the first year. I believe at some point we will not be able to get especially the large batteries at all. Paul
Lots of good points Taryl!! I have some outdated battery tools I can't get batteries for. Perfectly good tools I can no longer use....I hate that,!!!!!!!
I wired mine up to an extra 12 volt dc battery charger I had. They work fine and no battery to think about...
After 3 yrs battery loose 50 % of lasting power
Last time I was at Lowes there was no gas weed snippers and I was reading about battery replacement cost and a crappy warranty. I even saw a battery snowblower and it was stupid expensive.
And made so fucking cheap
@@joelmollenkopf3767 Get a Ryobi. I've been using the same one for 12 yrs and their batteries are all the same. Same battery will work in all of their tools. What I've saved in gas has paid for it.
The Home Depot takes the batteries for recycling free of charge for those close to them. Also Dewalt makes an adapter to convert the old 18v style battery to the new 20v batteries. Food for thought. Personally I have an old B & D corded electric mower and a gas powered mower made in 1990's that still does the job(trimming). You're right about the cost of the zero turns Ryobi 54" cut at Home Depot is $8000.00 BTW It has no belts to replace uses no oil or gas. Not sure how much ground it can cut before it needs recharged. I'll stick to my Bad Boy zero turn for now.
From a consumer standpoint, I think battery power has its place and limitations. I have a Stihl BGA 57 battery blower with a couple of AK 30 batteries and it works well for blowing off the deck and front porch, or drying the car etc.. It’s nice and light plus doesn’t need to be started so my wife can use it. It doesn’t hold a candle to my Stihl BR 430 or 600. I get about 15 minutes out of each battery but can run the gas units all day long at the cottage if I need to. Unless there is a big jump in battery technology, I don’t see me ever buying a battery lawn tractor either. I just don’t think that in my lifetime battery power will advance enough to last running the bucket or bush hog or pulling a grading box. My Kubota is diesel and will probably last for many years to come. You are correct in thinking the manufacturers will change the style of the batteries rendering the tool useless. We have already seen this with Milwaukee, Dewalt and Makita.
Great video mate
All about what you were just said about battery powered equipment, I share the same concern. I don't mind having battery powered hand tools like drills but like you said in 5 or 6 years from now are we going to be able to get new batteries for our old tools and if we are able to get new batteries for it, it will probably be just as expensive than the drill. It gives you some thinking to do.
My battery op Milwaukee drill/impact driver cost me $99, two replacement batteries are $99. The extended run batteries are $199.
Spot on brother. Thanks Florida Joe
Taryl ,glad you brought that to light, people don't know how much toxicity n danger there is to battery power, give me gas powered equipment, not that Tron juice, iFly RC planes and everyone is going to the expensive electric power and two people I know of has had their house almost catch on fire because of them batteries they're just not safe enough yet, my opinion
Check your starter jumper packs that have been sitting around and see if they still work. If they are not charged regularly they go kaput.
Kind of like Bombardier did the Ski-Doo snowmobile dealers in the late eighties. Before they had a floor plan that let the dealers make slight payments on the sleds sitting on the floor until the customer bought a sled. Then out of nowhere, they wanted all the dealers to pay full price for the new sleds before delivery. How many dealers could afford to do that? Kind of like the old adage, " The big fish keep eating the little fish". The Larger dealers made out like bandits.
I have used a Toro Z Master for our small farm needs for years, but I know it is going to need to be jacked up and have another slid underneath before too long....definitely not with a battery powered that will take two-three days to do the job I do in one because the charge runs out on the battery in a few hours. If not Toro, which company now makes a heavy duty Zero that stays out of the shop the most? One local mechanic tells me Kubota while another says Scag or exmark....A search on the Net says the best thing since sliced bread is Ventrac due to ability to mow hilly terrain safely, but there are no local dealers. Read an article the other day about a guy who paid $115,000 for a new Ford truck and then had to pay for charging station at home and other items. When he went on a vacation trip with the family, they had to wait for hours to get a charge after driving a couple hundred miles or so...trip was a disaster....even a Ford executive admitted it was a challenge to get the necessary charges on a trip.
In Australia, batteries can be returned to the seller for recycling. They have bins at the front door.
The risk of fire is what really scares me. Am I a fool for buying an eco lawn mower? Only time will tell. We store and charge the batteries in a remote steel shed. You are also right about the manufactures changing the fit of batteries. Dewalt has already pulled that little stunt.
My dad bought a high end battery powered leaf blower three years ago and has spent more to replace the lithium battery packs (keep degrading over time) than he spent on the blower. He has been through three packs. My sister has the same model and same problem. I just bought him a gas powered blower for Father’s Day. Reliability just isn’t there yet with some of these lithium battery pack manufacturers.
My father bought two rechargeable drill pack from Home Depot. It came with 2 batteries and both batteries were dead in under a year. When we went to buy a new one, it was $70! Yeah, we only buy corded power tools. Lesson learned.
Watching the news in london, they are whining about the electric bikes burning into flames and burning down homes. reporter just kept saying MORE regulations to make them even less affordable.
Taryl is steadily inspiring me (a former Electronics Repair Center owner) to open up a Battery Pack repair shop. What people outside of the Electronics Repair Industry (like Taryl) fail to understand is, power, is power, and a battery pack can be replaced, rebuilt, using better batteries as they evolve along the timeline of these Electric tools. You can literally scrap the whole insides of the Battery, Battery Management System, Charger, and all and replace it with the newest best thing and get more capacity, more charge cycles, faster charging, etc. YES it will eventually come to commercial products, because the technology is better and better quickly, and costs always go down after the inital R&D is paid. It's coming, whether we like it or not. Like Taryl, I don't have a dog in the fight, I don't work on gas or electric tools either one, but I see a niche market/need for more shops that repair and replace battery packs and charging units coming.
You drew a nice little line under the desirability and usage of battery powered equipment, Taryl. Up to a certain yard size, workshop size, battery may well be the way to go, eventually. But with large properties that require power replenishment as you work, then I can't see owners buying spare batteries for their equipment to keep them going. It's more economical and efficient to carry gasoline with them and top up the tank of whatever as they run dry.
So I think we'll see a reasonably good domestic market for battery powered lawn and workshop equipment, but not so good a market for the professional and large property operators. Then there's still the question of enabling responsible battery disposal and disposal of motors that burn out or are no longer compatible with the current stock of batteries. There will be interesting times ahead for both dealers and customers.
I know my local dealer enough to know what he’d tell Toro.😂
A racket like everything else...
Yeah, where the sun don't shine😂!
@@annathemaanderson4448 I really hope that enough dealers stand up against this type of garbage. If they would and it costed Toro other companies would take note and stop trying to get away with treating dealers like garbage.
This why it's important to pay attention and learn to properly maintain and repair the equipment you have NOW to endure the speed bump that's coming . Eventually it'll be all that's available , they''ll make sure of it.
Not in my lifetime. (Thankfully)
Manufacture's are already doing so. Try finding parts for your 15-20 year old gas equipment. More and more parts are becoming NO LONGER AVAILABLE.
Ironically enough governments around the world especially here in Canada are forcing more ethanol in the fuels which destroys small engines especially carbs. It is going to become harder and harder to maintain this stuff. The landfills are getting filled with this stuff and the battery powered stuff is worse.
Crazy times.
Love my Toro and Echo equipment.
I think you are spot on!
Damn good video. Glad to see you're getting in people's faces and making them see. Thank you
I wonder if any of these companies have put any thought into what’s going to happen when all of these giant lithium batteries start going bad? Can’t throw them in the trash. Once they go bad you can salvage them. Plus each battery is pretty much a giant bomb.
Sure they thought about the money they will make with all this stuff
Put it in a bucket of salt water overnight to deplete all the energy so they are no longer a risk.
Oh yeah, they're going in the trash,
They will probably charge a disposal fee that will be higher than the original cost.
@Spookybigfoot67 they'll likely have a "core charge" system, but it'll probably be pennies for what you paid initially and the new batteries will be $$$
In the EU we already have a lot of tools with CAS (Cordless Alliance System) batteries, it's a system promoted by Metabo and those batteries are based on the design of Metabo 18V batteries but I think each manufacturer can make its own 100% compatible batteries, at least those of each brand are labeled with their corresponding brand. 36V/40V tools use two of those batteries. I think they are available at least between 2Ah and 10Ah
Normally everyone in their trade has a few tools that they use all the time and others that they only need a few times a day or even a week, there is no point in having to buy a battery or two with each additional tool if you can use the ones that you already have.
If you can also exchange them between tools of different brands without having to buy or make adapters it becomes even more convenient.
It also guarantees that you will continue to be able to buy batteries with the same type of connector even if your tools last for many years.
The sad part, the only one that does that here is ryobi one+ batteries. They haven't changed in about 20 years and still embrace their design and support it
you are totally correct taryl.
Thank you Taryl for this great informative video. you are on it 100%. It would be nice if everyone could see this video! All these used and bad batteries are going to cause a toxic wasteland for us to deal with. Have a good day!
I see dealers being in it for the future service of the gas powered equipment and I see little return from selling the battery powered mowers. I hope the dealers are not so short sighted.
Yeaim still sitting on stuff from 3 spring orders ago,,I even got into the battery handheld stuff,didn't go anywhere,
They'll have to learn how to solder and how electronic boards work - or they'll just be parts installers essentially
@@M.TTT. And bend the customer over with a $600 pc board. A neighbor has a GE profile fridge that needed a pc motherboard out of warranty for $850 installed. Fridge was 2100$ originally. What next he says to go?
@@gerardmccarthy2432 yeeup, exactly my man
Leaches into my bottom line as a small engine tech in business for myself! Glad I will be retiring in 4 years…between the skyrocketed oil prices and this electrical equipment creeping in and taking overs mowers…we will all be out of work once snow blowers get switched over completely in 10+ years!
As far as power tools go such as ratchets, impact wrenches, etc. air tools still have their place in the world. They're lighter, more compact, not so bulky and unwieldy, and often times have a better power to weight ratio than cordless. If you have a long enough air hose, or gasoline air compressor, or portable generator to power an electric air compressor air tools can do everything cordless can and since they're not electric they can be safer to use around flammable materials. I also found out if you have the older DeWalt cordless power tools that use the 18 volt ni-cad system they make an adapter kit that converts them to the newer 20V max lithium ion system. It is a genuine DeWalt accessory that includes the adapter itself, two batteries, and the charger. They're available for purchase through The Home Depot.
Great video. You made excellent points. Battery cars maybe coming but not for decades. It took decades to gasoline powered vehicles to where we are today. I think people that purchase battery vehicles do so not so much to save the environment but to say I’m wealthy enough to own a battery powered car and you can’t.
Yes, the electric car industry is 100% status driven.
Production of EV's have been shut down at several manufacturers. They are not selling. It turns out, most people don't want them. The industry is being run by activists who know nothing when it should be run by engineers.
We are headed down a deep hole that is leading nowhere.
your last sentence is so close to the whole story, let me fill in the rest. electric vehicle subsidization is basically taxpayers subsidizing cars for 6 figure plus earners, the middle class is helping rich people buy cars.
Electric cars don’t pay road tax. Road tax is included in the cost of gasoline. Plus electric cars are heavier then gas fueled cars. The heavier weight causes more damage to the roads
Some people maybe, but not all of us. I bought a Volt ten years ago to insulate against the volatility of gas prices. It had nothing to do with being smug or elitist. The maintenance is nearly nothing. The regenerative braking makes the mechanical brakes last a really long time (I replaced the pads and rotors for the first time at 117,000 miles, and that was due to seized caliper slide pins). So you are fine to have your opinion, but I really like all my electric stuff. Chainsaw, weed whip, leaf blower, edger, hedge trimmer, drill, work lights. All have been great. Only issue I have is the 2ah batteries for my Echo 58v equipment are garbage. The 4ah batteries have been fantastic.
I’m not saying I hate gas stuff. I still have an air cooled VW Beetle. It doesn’t get much more old school than that. However, don’t sell yourselves short because of a preconceived opinion. Try some of this stuff out and form your own opinion. The convenience of the battery stuff is really great. Not having to dispose of used oil or coolant, or change fouled plugs, or clean carb float bowls on equipment that is seldomly used (my chainsaw fits this description). Seriously, try some of it out and see if you like it. I haven’t found an electric replacement for my lawn tractor (which also carries a snowblower in the winter), but if someone makes a reliable battery powered replacement for its duties I would definitely give it a try.
Edit: oh, and at least here in Michigan, electric cars do pay a road tax. It comes in the form of higher registration fees which I accept because I use the roads, too.😊
I think the consumer should have the ultimate choice on whats right for them and not be forced to only have one option which is the way the market is heading. It makes sense for the home owner who has a small city lot to have a battery mower if they want, but again it should be there choice. I agree with Taryl that the recycling and recovery for this battery push isnt where it needs to be and honestly we prolly are not at a point yet where the industry realizes that. Small hand tools like the Milwaukee power tools make sense because the only other option in corded power replacements.
Over all what frustrates me is the sales pitch to eliminate fossil fuel powered items to save the environment but everything that goes into the production of the alternative is just as bad from the mining to the production to the power grid required to recharge the batteries. Where do they think the power comes from, its not solar or wind. Add to that parts of the country have forced brown outs due to lack of capacity, but go ahead and mandate everything be electric and see where that gets us.
Unfortunately they're going to skew the statistics from consumers by offering discounts or government rebates, just like they did for solar.
Tax payers are forced to subsidize the purchase of hybrid/electric automobiles. Punitive dealer financing terms for lawncare dealer's who refuse to take battery powered devices will pass those costs on to customers.
But it's not the "market" that is heading that way. The market is being manipulated by government, activists and black rock, putting pressure on manufactures to market so called green products. It's the opposite of a free market, it's market manipulation. Which the last time I checked, is a crime.
@H0kieJoe yup I actually have an acquaintance who went to a car dealership and they practically gave away over 2 dozen of a new EV. For 5 months the person pays very little each month, something like $200 a month and at the end, you can just return it to them. They wouldn't say why, but I bet the dealer was gaming some sort of reward system.
@@frotobaggins7169 Exactly!
An enlightening video thanks Taryl.
I agree, I have lots of battery powered hand tools and they have their place but I also live on a farm and there are lot of things here that absolutely have to be gas.