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- čas přidán 9. 09. 2023
- In "Too Many Interruptions", local yokel Scruffy is back again. Taryl takes on this FREE brush cutter someone just gave him that wanted it gone and he tries to get it running and working again. It's been sitting awhile so we'll see if it's even worth going over. Before and After the fix attempt, Scruffy keeps interrupting Taryl whenever he asks him something prompting a swift solution to his nonsense. Stick around 'til the end for the hilarious conclusion. And There's Your Dinner!!
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MTD……making Taryl Dollarbills….
no fun that way. Look at it from the viewpoint of engineers looking for a job. Monkeys talking dollars.
CEO's required to work out the noose rope.
Yup Yup Yup
Lol
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What name brand rpm meter do you use
Making Troybuilt Defunct
I like that mower! Having the deck out front keeps the blade away from your feet and you can reach out over the edge of a ditch easier. They certainly don't make stuff like that anymore.
Like a Yazoo and some Hahn Eclipse that were belt driven, In addition to keeping the blade further from your feet it also protected the crankshaft from damage if you hit a rock or some other hard stationary object with the blade.
Oh they make it it's just in the commercial space and costs 3x as much as it should.
I was impressed how the engine speed hardly changed cutting those tall weeds.
That was actually an expensive, good mower in its day, you are correct it wasn't a cheap mower, had a cast iron sleeve.I bought one slightly used in 88 for 400$, half of the new cost, the guy was moving to town from the farm and didn't have a use anymore. I mowed by fences and rough areas with it for 25 years. Motor still ran but the rest was just plain worn out.Twas made in the 🇺🇸
MTD-many troubles daily
MTD began as The Modern Tool and Die Company in 1932 in Cleveland, Ohio.
Nice. I got an old Troy Bilt Horse tiller for free a few weeks ago. It had the original H60 Tecumseh 6 HP engine. All I did was replace the head gasket, clean and set the points, change the oil and spray the carb. Started on the first pull. Didn't need it so sold it for $300.00.
Great job Taryl !
Too many people just throw everything away these days.
That's because its mass produced junk .
That’s not a bad machine compared to the junk MTD pushes out today. It would have been a shame to see that get scrapped. Still has one of the good B&S engines too. Cool project Taryl!
lol, those 3-5 (fake) Horse Power engine with that particular design of carb were the worst.
@@Francois_Dupontnah, you were close but engines of that design with the PLASTIC carbs and the foam / sponge crap glued in the tank to prevent “sloshing” were the worst. Aside from mounting the carb on the tank and using a diaphragm type “pump” to draw fuel instead of having a separate carb with a float bowl filled by gravity, I don’t think the side valve Briggs engines are any worse or any better than most of the contemporary 4 stroke side valve competition. I actually like them more than the comparable Tecumseh engines but I prefer Wisconsin / Robin and Kohlers a little more than the Briggs. The Wisconsin’s were REALLY well put together for a small 3-5hp engine. That said my favorite small engines of that vintage are the Lawn-Boy / OMC “F” engine and the Robin 2 strokes you could get on Snapper commercial models. For me it’s hard to beat those 2 strokes on a ~5-ish horsepower walk behind mower. The Suzuki 2 strokes on the Toros are pretty good too but pricey to work on. I still run my favorite lawn-boy 8-10 hours per week cutting mine and my parents lawns and it’s a 1989 model that was in commercial service working 25+ hours per week until I bought it in 2008. Other than pulling the muffler and cleaning it and the exhaust ports out every winter before storing it it has never needed more than a spark plug every few years and one coil replacement. The great part is it never needs an oil change and I can run the same gas in all my small power equipment including the mower.
This was before MTD got their hands on it.
That cleaned up surprisingly well!
Many moons ago I have used a couple different lawnmowers built on the same design as the one in the video. Yazoo mowers and Johnson mowers both had a version identical to it. Very durable design and quality of materials in comparison to modern mowers.
As always taryl takes a thrown away mower, and breathes new life into it. So it may have a 2nd chance at life. 👍
Hey Taryl! I have this same mower. It’s also an 87’.
My father had me mow down the old corn stalks and weeds with it in the garden before he would till the soil with a gravely 5260 with a rotary cultivator attachment. Sometimes you had to lift the mower to get the stalks to go under.
The choke lever on the carburetor could be pressed a little until it clicked if the mower needed more choke to start.
The handles on that machine certainly have a unique feel.
It’s been sitting unused for a few years because the coil is bad.
I assume you put another foam filter in it. I don’t think the video shows the new filter with part number.
Thanks for fixing this machine up and for the great video content!
When I was a kid, I used to mow a lawn for someone who had one of these. It was a very reliable machine. It's the only one I'd ever seen in my life till now! What a blast from the past!
Got to have safety because people are stupid! 🤣 Words of wisdom.
Stupid if you don’t use safety products that are available
I'm going with MTD standing for (Massive Turd Dump)
That looks like a well made machine. It is some what like the old Yazoo mowers, heavy duty, built to last.
The closest machines that are built today would be the products from DR Industries.
Thank you for making and posting the videos, they are humorous and educational, hats off to you and your boys.
Best Regards
I agree on DR equipment, it’s tuff and well made and I don’t mind paying them more money eather 😊
DR is part of Breaks and Scrap'em now.@@philliphall5198
One of Briggs' best L-head engines.
I had one of those - mine was actually a Troy Bilt 'brand'. It had a 10hp? (maybe 8hp) B&S engine. A friend inherited it from his father. The friend was crippled in a car wreck and gave the mower to me. It started and ran fine. Heavy - and with 10hp it was a beast. But my property has tons of rock - big rocks migrate to the surface with deep frost. The mower blade is belt driven - so no danger of rock damage. But I had a yard to maintain - not weeds or small brush. So after a couple of years I gave it to another friend.
I actually thought my was made in the late 60's. I thought I once looked that up. It had that 50's, 60's 'feel' to it. Felt like older design and manufacture. With that 10hp Briggs and high gear, you'd better hang on! I never missed it. But it did have a purpose for the right person. It was built to last. Now that I think of it, I still have the manual.
I love my Tuff-cut. Only reason I don't use it a lot is I got a gravely with the brush-mower attachment.
Going to fire mine up this evening for the heck of it.
Keep up the great videos.
I have a 1987 Troybuilt tiller. Starts right up and runs great. They made them good back then. Nice video!
The Briggs @ Stratton side valve and Victa 2 stroke are the two best lawn mower engines ever made.
Some folks call it a swing blade, I call it a flail blade!
Mmm-hmmm.
I want some fried taters
@@terrywitt5543
Fried taters and onion = great meal !
I've ate a lot of 'em, still love 'em ! 👍😊
@@norman7179 I love them to I was referring to billy bob Thornton movie swing blade that was his line want me some fried taters
@@terrywitt5543
Haven't seen the movie but love the taters and onions.
Thanks for your reply ! 👍😊
I've got a Troy-bilt Horse tiller I bought new in the 1980's. Still use it to garden. Nice job on this mower!
Almost like a real early DR mower,great video thumbs up
They dr stuff has been around for awhile, they didn't invent them they just rebranded it lol.
@ronniewilliz153 and they were bought out a couple years ago
Only an experienced lawn mower repairman like yourself can figure out why the control system was faulty and repair it without getting new controls. I thought my snow hound was an odd machine with weird controls, but that baby takes the cake. But it did make a good Sunday video and how people can screw up a good machine by wrecking the control system..
Troy bilt used to make really good stuff. Dad has a Troy Built Junior tiller from 1983 with a Tecumesh motor and everything still works great! Tecumesh motor is the rare one with the reversing pulley on it. Lots and lots of hours on it. Only repair in 40 years was a carb kit and exhaust valve replacement.
Ol' Scruffy is hilarious!!! That mower worked out pretty good, but sounded like the engine was laboring with the blade engaged. Sounded kinda like a spindle bearing or something dragging. And, of course, it was low on dinosaur syrup. So many people just can't seem to 'get it' when it comes to maintaining the oil on a lawn mower.
I remember Troy Bilt when they were Garden Way. Now I feel old.
Good job/great find!!
Amazing how good it cuts with a dull blade, an OE spark plug and OE carburetrator.😀
Once you said the prices of that part made me think of time here about two months ago when I was searching for a carburetor for a 20 horse supposed to in Briggs & Stratton and once I found out how much it would cost to get a carburetor from Briggs & Stratton I ended up going to eBay and after tax and shipping I paid like $27 and the reason why I went with the cheap one is because Briggs & Stratton wanted $350 for replacement carburetor
That works and cleaned up great Taryl!
Nice job. That mower was from back in the day when they made some quality equipment. Thanks for the vid.
It's amazing how many vintage machines you get and they still run. These videos are awesome 😊
MTD is Modern Tool and Die. Over the years, MTD acquired the Troy-Bilt, Bolens, Cub Cadet, Craftsman (owned by its minority partner), and Yard-Man brands and/or companies. MTD Craftsman mowers utilize the Sears "247" model prefix. Looks like a good project for you though.
Yay! You can copy and paste a Google result! Congratulations!
Reminds me of an old Yazoo big wheel mower
I still have a yazoo big wheel, havent used it in years,
That blade drive looks a lot like the the drive lock on a DR Trimmer.
So funny and educcational at the same time ...
Smarten us up and dumb us down with a smile and some good ol humor ..
Thanks Taryl n company 👍👍✌🇦🇺
I remember those.... They weren't cheap. The marketing was kinda aimed at the consumer who had the big house, and the big piece of property, and wanted to do stuff on a larger scale.....
Looked like it worked really good.... Looked amazing all cleaned up. That thing is a time capsule....
I agree, probably hardly used. The paint didn't even have scratches.... And really, what's the usage case.... So you cut down the tall grass off in that section of your huge yard... Rake it out, pick out the rocks, seed it up.... Now it's lawn, you can cut it with your lawnmower... So the Troy Built just sits in the garage.... Unless you are a Pro Landscape Person, how often do you really need that thing????
Tuff-Cuts are the amazing.
They work best when you cut out the bumper and the cover in front of the blade.
...maybe you could retrofit an alternator/battery system
when Dino juice is too costly?
BTW: here in the ATL GA area we really had fueling stations with the vegetarian
Dinosaur symbol:
The company
was known
as S
...SINCLAIR---a
well-known
NORTH-
WESTERN
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Very nice hopefully it goes to someone who really needs it… love the skit. 👍👍👍
Nice unit! looks to have been used sparingly over the years also.
poor fluffy...no more chewing wires for him ..rip
Had 8hp version of this but had the swivel casters on front. Bought it at factory store in Troy NY. Mowed alot of lawns with it.
Good video Taryl!! Nice to see the old machines come back to life. Probably make someone a really good brush mower!
Looks like a well-built machine. Those days are over.
I remember these mowers when they were being sold by Troy Built and they were about $1200.00. They were basically a commercial grade push mower.
That's what I need here
That there is a “layered up” version of the Yazoo and Johnson mowers from my childhood days! Yazoos we’re hell on wheels mowers. Our had a Clinton engine.
1:12- I totally get that frustration; working in customer service has just made me loose faith in humanity... I love being berated by customers while trying to help them and not able to do anything about it without fear of loosing my job
surprised you didnt check for fluffies cousin under the pull starter to see if he left a mess under there 😁😁👍👍
Malfunctions Then Dies
I have a big wheel mower called a Yazoo and it still works after 30 + years. almost identical except no plastic and saftey BS I wonder were all of the modern mowers of today will be 30+ years from now?
We had a 1999 Troy-Bilt 42 inch cut riding mower with the Kohler Command 16HP engine. It was a rock solid machine. It's a shame MTD (many troubles daily) ran them into the ground
Man I need one of those.
8:40 Or as AvE calls it (and if it's ether starting fluid), Dr. Huxtable's Date-In-A-Can! 😄
Cosby sauce.
I 💕 your new video s I watch them all the time you send me new ones
I remember seeing mowers like that back in the day. Could not fathom how they thought bike tires were a good idea for anything other than aesthetics. Never knew anyone who actually owned one though.
MTD, Made To Deteriorate. I have a MTD push mower, and like it after 3 seasons so far.
I had a real old Dr mower,it had tall steel spoke wheels on the back And just rails on the front, it was the early brush mower
It is basic physics. You need large diameter wheels to go over ruts and fallen material easily. You need narrow wheels because they are light weight and do not bog down the engine.
Mowers To Dump
@frankbill9172 even at my shop,I get these real oddball machines, sure I get them going, then they just sit,no one wants them,have a whole bunch as we speak, have a whole fleet of STX 38 tractors also,after a while they become clutter
Mighty Tuff Decision
That thing is kinda a veerdoh. Cant wait to see it cleaned up and see what that really is. I did about a half acre of 1/2 diameter saplings and vines for this woman and she insisted I use her troybilt sickle bar mower. It used a bungee strap to put tension squeezing the blades together and at first glance I thought what kind of hokey crap is that? But I figured out the controls and went to cutting brush with it and quickly realised, there is probablly no better way to tension those blades. Had you used a spring there would be more vibration, the rubber has some dampening to it to reduce all the banging. That was actually a really nice machine for clearing a 3 year old unkept lot. A sickle uses a lot less power than a rotating blade. Shore wished I had one of those now! Cant sell em cause of liability, that blade is wide open and would take a dogs leg off in an instant. I got a Stihl power scythe for my KM 94r to do the same thing. I like that for poison ivy cause it lays down and chops everything instead of slinging it all over you like a line trimmer would.
In the 1980s Garden Way also marketed a solid Maple workbench you could buy through the mail and assemble yourself. It came with two very nice wood vises and four bench dogs. Very nice heavy workbench. I still have mine.
slippers can't act his way out of a paper sack. LOL.
That what makes him so funny.
@@donf3739 YEAH so bad is kind of funny.
That has a design similar to the Lazy Boy Mowers manufactured
by the Parmi Company back in the 70's. I managed to save one of
those for myself. I believe this mower has the same engine as mine
does. Very cool mower indeed. Cheers! 🍻
I used too have one similar to that one. I think it had a five horse B&S. I don't remember what brand it was. Thing would cut through nearly anything. Thanks Taryl for this awesome video. And there's my dinner 👍
Pops bought a similar mower in 89 with the same engine, we ran it until 2006 when the deck finally rusted so bad that the engine fell through the deck. Also started on 1st or 2nd pull every time, never had carb off. New plug, oil change and oil up a new air filter every spring. I would take one of those brush mowers any day over the modern junk. Hands down.
Ok, that opening was awesome 😂
Love the old L head motors .
Thats sad. Just a bit of effort got it going. Great score!
With that style of mower people push down on the handles tweaking the handle upwards would have solved the engagement problem when people push down on the handle to make a turn or lift up the front end overtime it pushes those handles down awesome video👍🤠
*Great work brother* 👍❤😊
Sponge cake! I was thinking it and you said it Taryl!😂😂....now I'm hungry.
Wow, that thing is a beast!
Good one fellas! Great repair T,thanks.
Awesome thanks for sharing
You would have cried the day MTD took over the factory in Troy. Company I worked for at the time was doing a lot of the powder coating for Troy-Bilt prior to the switch so we hit there plant weekly to swap painted and raw parts. Got to know their crews pretty well. Got there one day not long after the take over and MTD was clearing out any equipment that they already had in their line, They just wanted the tillers and a couple mowers that were Troy-Bilts best known machines. All the rest were being smashed with hammers and cut up as scrap. They had dumpsters filled with spare parts and cut up machines that didn't fit the new line up. I got there to drop off some of the last parts we had for them and the crew asked if there was anything I wanted. Left there with a 26' box truck full of parts and complete new machines, even had a couple Bolens diesels (rebadged Isekis) on there as they were scrapping all the Bolens line as well. Unloaded them at my place and kept a few items, gave some to family and sold the rest off to a local dealer.
Very good! Looks like it did a great job.
I remember the infomercials on these machines back in the day.
You guys crack me up😂😂😂😂
Taryl describing mechanistic action:
Well you got your belt here with a belt there and a chain and a cog. 🤣🤣
Wow that things got some balls goin through that thick stuff spittin it out like that nice
Another good video….. thank you guy’s
This was patterned after the Yazoo big wheel mower. That company went through a lot of changes in the 1980s and was merged with Kees. I have 4 of the original Yazoos and they are super fun to work on.
the deceased mouse: a REAL Grass Rat!
Everybody knows MTD stands for Make Trash Daily
Seems like starter fluid should be called dinosaur spit. 😂😂😂
Thank you for sharing.👍
I used to have a Yazoo similar to that one, with a Wisconsin engine, wish i had it back.
txs for sharing...
Got my bleed gas and oil hat in. Love it
Taryl 💗's Troy NY .. Nice refurbish.. Thanks for sharing.
Have a MTD 95 20 Horse V twin IC and still use it to cut my lawn and I have a big lawn. Has a 46 inch cut 3 blade. Getting parts is getting a bit hard to find but still love this old mower. Need to rebuild the front end as it's a bit wore now so will be looking for parts for it next.
I wished I could still find the old style Yazoo big wheel. You could cut down a forest with one of those back in the day. Prefer the old choke and throttle instead of all this new junk they have now on Mowers. Can't hardly find any of those engines any more with that style of carb. I live in Oklahoma so we have lots of weeds and Grass that can grow a foot high in a week.
That sure looks like an old Yazoo mower I used for years, until some drive parts that were integral with the wheels wore out. It was unusual in that the wheel drive wasn't taken off the crankshaft like most, but was instead off an extension of the camshaft! Otherwise, it was just your regular 5 hp vertical shaft Briggs engine.
Made back in. The Day when this Engines were made to n last
It looks like a Yazoo mower that I have had for over 40 years only the controls are difference , the blade spinners when you cranks it up, a lever to put it in motion.
33 years on a spark plug, good golly miss molly. Maybe running at less than max rpm was a reason for it's long life? Front spindle and idler needing grease? I think you were confusing swinging blade with flail mowers. Machine looks like a Yazoo clone. Nice machine, great that you rescued it.
I have a Troybuilt Tuffy rototiller made in Troy, NY same era 1987. It has the worm gear drive. Tilled many a garden with it. Now it's retired in my basement...poor lil' Troy. I use a corded electric tiller these days. But the tuffy was well made and I miss those days of quality machine builds.
Thanks for your input
Them teefs! 😂
Cool machine! It cleaned up nice.
I remember Troy Bilt, TV advertising in the 80's. They had all kinds of equipment, roto tillers, mowers, riding mowers , brush mowers. I dont know if i seen that particular brush mower, I think they several different types. For just a 5 horsepower it looks like it does a good job. An interesting machine. Another great video sir 😊
Garden way built good stuff. I've repaired the engines on several of their tillers. The rest of the tillers were great.
I have the exact same Tuff Cut and it runs well. I like it. You are 100% correct about the red MTD nick-named Troy-Bilt and the yellow MTD nick-named Cub Cadet (or Scrub Cadet).
You continue to inspire me, sir. Thank you
Troy-Bilt Troy New York, right in my hometown! I don't have much new stuff except for my zero turn John Deere. rototiller is Troy-Bilt from late 70s or early 80s still going strong. Great-looking machine Terrell