Here's why you *SHOULD NOT* Buy a Volvo!
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- čas přidán 14. 05. 2021
- Hi Guys,
In todays video I discuss what you shouldn't buy a Volvo!
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Can’t understand how on all previous vids you sing nothing but praise for the S80 and as soon as it hits your pocket you change tune.
Yep, very naive
I'm not changing my tune Malc, just letting people know the real cost of ownership, I still love the car! I know there are people out there though who don't quite understand this and who blame volvo :)
If you can't afford a Volvo then you shouldn't buy one, it's that simple!
I have had 3 Volvo S60s and 1 S40 over the years and love them. I go all over the Country and apart from normal wear and tear, they have never let me down. I love them. I totally reject your comment"never buy a used Volvo".
Presently I have three Volvos - a 2000 C70 w 111K miles, a "Facelift" 2005 XC70 and a 2008 Gen3 XC70. In the last 10 years I've also had several V70's. The difference in feel and quality between the "real" Volvo's and the Ford based Volvo's is marked. The 2005 XC70 D5 Geartronic Nivomat, with 202K miles feels and looks like new - outside and inside - the leather is perfect. I've put 12K miles on the car in two years. Considering I paid £1,250 for the car I consider it a steal and if I have to spend a thousand £ in the next couple years replacing the Nivomats it's still a steal.
Same goes for the Gen3 2008 D5 Geartronic XC70 with 4C suspension and 158K. It's a lovely car, feels like a much heavier and larger car than the '05. Considering what a new replacement would cost I'm not bothered spending some money replacing parts that wear - you'd have to do that with almost any car once it is a year or two old.
I am driving top of the line cars for a fraction of the cost of a new ones and I consider that a very good deal..:)
Never ever replace just one shock absorber , whoever did that job on the 1st one you replaced should have told you that the other one has to be replaced as well , otherwise this happens.
It’s 11 years old. I would expect this at that age
With the low prices on the used car market we tend to forget that the S80 is an executive car, that's going to show in the running costs.
But all in all even considering the prices for repairs and running costs, I think it's one of the best values for the money if you're looking for a comfortable car for long commutes or trips 👍
A very good safe and quick car. Usually without any major issues.
unless its a d5 then its about the same as an s60 to run just cooler basically a bigger s60
it's joke?? every part on cars have lifetime and should be replaced before end of it's lifetime came to end, and some other parts can be gone for some reasons, shock absorbers gone if you hit a hole at road strongly or similar situation, it doesn't only Volvo P3 S80 specific failure but due to normal usage of any automobile
Volvo S80's are in the same 'prestige' bracket as lower end BMW's and Mercs. If you're thinking of buying one, it's best to do your research first. My older model S80 D5 SE Lux needed an ignition barrel. It cost me £685 and had to be delivered from Gothenburg!!!
I think something to consider with all Volvos is that a well kept engine will just keep going and going, but everything that is plastic will break, every solder can crack and bushing and gasket will need to be replaced, just like any other car really.
I had the 4-c active shocks on my old xc70.I went direct to Monroe for two rear shockers and saved a fortune doing so .
I am probably looking at that on my 08 XC70 w 158K.
Mate I own two S80 V8s here in Australia and they are wonderful cars.
I think you need to look up once in a while because the price you are paying for your 4C electronic shocks is atrocious!!
Try Rockauto in the US - OEM part Monroe C1512 rear electronic shock £140 each + delivery!!You can fit both rears in an hour very simple installation
For the front, Monroe C2510 and C2511 OEM parts £152 each + delivery
Once replaced you need to pop down to the Dealer unless you have VIDA to re set the suspension system
In OZ all S80s have the Toyota Aisin 6spd gearbox - last forever if you change/flush oil every 2-3 years
Mine have been super reliable. We pay a small levy of $150aud per year for the V8 privilege. Petrol is 90p per litre
As for the leather, when was the last time you cleaned and conditioned/ moisturized it. Mine is 14 years old and like new!
I own one, I had one and I plan to buy another one. 🤷🏾♀️ Its better than a lot of other cars I could buy.
My 11 year old used Volvo XC60 is the same P3 platform as the S80. I do my own maintenance and repairs. The only thing I majorly replaced are the front strut suspensions. 2024 now it has 105,000 miles on it and still runs smoothly. My other used Volvo is a 2011 XC90 3.2 still no issues. I have purchased two used Volvos. Now you tell me.
Did it pull a heavy caravan before you had it? If had an 18 stone driver previously that might explain the seats.!
Have a 2015 XC60 2.0 181bhp( £30 road tax) and shock absorbers are like £85.
My car is a little bit younger than yours but when I bought it it came with 6 months warranty. This warranty has been very useful for me. The PCV system needed changing £360 got it sorted. Warrantywise got in touch with me asking me if i wanted to carry on with the cover. After giving me more details I snapped his hand off over the phone. It's going to cost me just over £700 for 2 years but I have to pay the £700 within the 1st year. But here's the best part. If it fails an M.O.T they fix it anything to do with my suspension engine exhaust steering and electrics they fix it. Plus I'm covered up to £75 an hour for labour. Anything above that I would have to find the difference.... Also got breakdown cover.
If i was you the question I would ask myself is how much weight do I carry in my boot is it worth it. Don't get me wrong I understand the comfort and the originality of a car.
I don't normally do this much writing and I feel like I've written a book 😂 right back to the rest of your video 👍🏿
Have you experienced a steering rack problem where the steering appears to catch, or experiences severe resistance, after nearing full turn?? If so what is the cause and estimated cost. Thanks.
Don't buy a car because of shocks? Get real.....there are literally tons of shock manufacturer choices. Nivomats do present an additional challenge for shocks but I believe these can be changed out to regular shocks with other changes.
I have normal rear shocks and they are really cheap.
I know that nivomats are nice when big loads are in the back and does the work quite nice.I have them on the xc90.
Also the 4c suspension can be really expensive to change,but now you can remove all 4c system and switch to stock thanks to D5T5
My 2005 "Facelift" 05 XC70 has Nivomats - perfectly fine at 202K.
Apologies how do you check whether it’s normal or not ? Does it mean if don’t have buttons ahead of the gearbox switch I should have normal suspension ? Volvo S80 2.4 diesel 2007
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That buttons in front of the gear lever is the 4C adaptive suspension and is different from nivomat suspension.4C is electohidraulic suspension being controled by a computer in the car’s system.
So basically you get an electromagnetic impule to tell the shock absorbers to self managevthe stifness depending of some factors like bumps in the road,the load on the car,speed and what you choose between the the three predefined settings: Comfort,Sport and Normal.
The 4c aplies to all 4 shocks.
Nivomat it is a different story and a different set up of the suspension.They are like normal shocks but the keep heavy amont of hydraulic energy in them si the keep the back of car leveled regardless the applied cargo load and that only happens while driving.When the car is at a standstill and is loaded ,the back looks like very low.
They only apply to the rear shock absorbers and they working principle is mechanical hydraulic pressure.So,if the shock absorbers sense load on them so while driving based on the loading capacity and the car’s movement,the shocks charges with hydraulic oil pressure and stiffens them.
You can only find out if you check your vin number or visually if you have 2 very thick fat shocks in the rear and not the thin skinny ones which are the basic ones.
The v70,xc70 and s80 comes factory equipped with these 3 setups:
All 4 shocks stock
4C
Only rear nivomats.
All of these 3 also have coil springs.Nivomat coil springs are softer,thus the shock absorbers does the most of the job and takes much of the load on itself.
Did A little research first so I new what I was looking for My 2013 V70 2.0 D3 is £34 a year road tax, a lot less than the Skoda small hatch I traded in for it, but they are hard to find second hand, I travelled 80 miles to get mine but worth it, MPG is about the same as yours maybe a little better, I am a previous long time Volvo owner from years back, and are so happy now to have returned to the flock even though Ford own them, they truly are for Me the best thing since sliced bread, and that's been around for a long time too.
Happy Volvo-ing to you all.
Those shocks are amazing. Nivomat system is in my opinion one of the best shocks out there. The car is just safe to drive in any condition. I know the price is high but I bought original Sachs Volvo used in new p3 cars from USA and paid £627 for two with delivery. This is half price of the same stuff in UK. I can give you the link to the website I bought it from.
I always try to buy Volvo parts but never from the dealer. Its not worth to overpay fort exact same parts and there are many ways to buy them for a reasonable price
Hi there, I would be interested in the website details please.
I have a pair of used rear 4c monroe shocks for sale. Working order, bought for my S80 but it was a water ingress in wiring loom fault in the end, so I didn’t need to replace the shocks. Bought off eBay. I’ll let them go for £200 each
What’s your size of the wheels? Is it 225/50 R17 ?
Aye to some of the comments below. A pair of shocks for 50 squid for me! Why you folks insist on buying anything with the word 'active' in the description, I don't know. You just know it's going to be an arm and a leg to replace when it fails, which everything on a car will do, one day. Like those hideous zenon lights - apart from being a million pounds to replace - what WAS wrong with the old halogen lamps ffs?! - they are equally horrible to drive towards, such a fine line for the oncomer, between being dazzled or not. I'm pretty sure they were scrubbed as original fitment due to changes in the law ages ago. But shocks - KISS, darling, KISS!
I have an s80 2007 2.5t I am happy with it but you can feel that ford has taken over compared to the old volvo models I hate for example the doors sound cheap when they close and the undercarriage rusts because they have used cheap paint
Normal R-Design front shocks where dead after 138k km on my V60. FoMoCo stuff..... Hope the Bilstein B6 will last longer 🙄
Do you think your 17-inch wheels have caused your shocks to go? I bought a 2003 V70 in February and it came on winter tyres on 16-inch wheels and the seller threw in summer tyres on 17-inch Volvo R wheels. I don’t like the idea of 17-inch wheels - too low profile for me, so I’ll drive with the winter tyres all year round until they need replacing, at which time I’ll get summer tyres and use them all year round.
Hi Mark, I'm not sure, my previous cars have had 18s which I hated and I saw 17s as the smaller option 🤣 I personally think that wheels nowadays are just ridiculously big! in terms of the shocks it may be the case that they have reduced the life of the shock itself, I also think the car may have been used for Towing or carrying heavy weight (including rear passengers) because I can't see how both could go at under 100k :)
@@drivelife.channel The smaller option! 😂😂😂 The tyres on my 17-inch wheels are shot, so I have to decide whether to replace them or go with the 16-inch wheels. It’s got the old 5-cylinder petrol engine, only 140 bhp, and I don’t push it hard at all. On the other hand I have no idea how hard its first 173,000 miles were...
were you go to get your shocks done Buckingham Palace mine on S80 2-4 Sport was £550 for two ..????
In my opinion, this is average running costs. I bought a 2005 V70 2.4 petrol for £970.00. So far needed two front shocks [Kwik-Fit cheap and surprisingly good quality] four New tyres [Bridgestone Turanza - okay actually, great in wet, but don’t throw into a corner, their sidewalls are soft and outer edge blocks are large and soft so you feel the tyre move and soon you’re into understeer] front and rear discs and pads, new handbrake cable, new battery, full service, new wipers, new rear wiper motor, new bulbs [headlight, four indicators and interior] repairs to exhaust - new exhaust and cat required though and the cam belt is 48,900 miles overdue a change so that is to do. Air con recharge done last week as well. I bought it as a load lugger - it does this well, but my it’s no drivers car. Once on a run it’s so laid back, and I guess that’s okay. Quiet and smooth, but fast B Road and no fun, not even a smidge. Rolls, wallows and gives very little in the way of smiles. So you forgive this, but then come to a big downhill and gearbox - auto - gives no down hill engine braking. It coasts, now all my other auto cars will either hold a gear or when you brake will hold a lower gear to assist - not the Volvo. You’ve got shift it down to 3 or L yourself. Lots of rattles and things that were not thought out - why oh why does the digital trip meter reset to 0 when you go over 1,000 miles...Why if leave sidelights on, no audible tone to remind you their on when take out ignition key? The climate control has no solar sensor - only air temp sensor - so when the sun comes out and rapidly warms interior, the automatic control takes ages to adjust to actual air temp rise - this on what was a premium vehicle in its day.
#1 you allways replace both shocks or spring on that axle if they break
# i could not find a rear shock more expensive than 70 pounds/euro (for a good sachs).
There is theoption for any car equiped with electric shocks just to use the standard basic shocks and be totally fine.
Unusual for a Volvo. I'm fortunate enough to have a brand new volvo every 3 years. I have had a number of xc60 's , and have no problems as yet. I have just had delivered a V90 cross country. I guess theirs good and bad in every car.
Appart from expesive tax this still is a great piece of Swedish engineering, new S90 are made in China.
It's a lot of car, for good money.
I miss my S80, i was using it daily for commuting to work, 75 miles round trip, it was much better drive, than Mondeo MK3 i had before this.
If you can find the 3.0-litre T6 AWD you're gonna surpise some people at the lights... especially if you get a stage 1 remap (approx 330bhp). These are big heavy cars though so arent going to handle that well. These have more interior leg room than the older P2 as well... though personally I prefer the older P2 models as they are a Volvo design, whereas the P3 shares platform with the mondeo. The doors don't thump shut like a proper Volvo either, feels cheaper. These are reliable cars though and will easily do high mileage.
Oddly enough there's more 4.4 V8s in this country then there are T6s, I guess it was because they cost about the same when brand new and were in the same tax bracket so people just went for the V8.
Some warranty would have gone a long way...
Could you not just go for bilstein b4 or b6 and just get rid of the self leveling. For the price of one shock you can buy a full kit for bilstein b6 or even half that money for b4 great suspension...
I have tried to find a kit for the facelifted S80 and even bought one but they don't seem to fit :/
Speak to shemtek (shem Green) regarding about fitting it
Tax for my 2007 SAAB 9-5 AERO 580 pounds and around 23 mpg now i run V70 p2 its cheaper and feels much better quality all round lol.
I have had my 2010 S 80 turbo 6 cyl for 2 years now ...nice car ......fast car but it cost way more to maintain than any other car I owned....I did buy it with 110,000 miles on it but between oil leaks , suspension repairs , the control module broke for my ALL wheel drive system ...The maintenance and upkeep is ridiculous.....I plan to sell it as soon as i can and get a chevy impala 6 cyl with 300 horsepower ...Im sure that wont cost me that much to maintain...and at least it will be fast too.....😅😅😅
I have just bought a new S90 D4R. The tax is £475 for the first five years, because list is over £40k, & then drops to £150
Don`t complain about the tax. In Holland i pay € 82,- per month. Motoring in Britain is very cheap compared to Holland
We have had a 54 xc90 d5 for 7 + years had fair share of repairs but been a very good motor just retired her to town as the auto box well torque converter is playing up slipping fault code so shes now a town mucky job car at 200k and I've just brought a 2010 xc90 d5 manual for family days and tow car I'll be honest I'd be hard pushed to change from a xc90 d5 now but I wont be buying an auto again if i can help it 3k to fix the old girl up if I want or need to
The leather on the seats crackle on every older Volvo I've seen. I don't know why.
The only reason I would not buy my Volvo is if I didn't drive it like it has to be drove ,I don't do any city driving in my Volvo V70 apart from driving out of it and then at some point back ,a big 2.4 twin turbo diesel is a touring car and needs long hard drives to keep the car running well ,if your car isn't doing that kind of driving I would get a petrol engine for city driving like I do in my Ford other wise your just clogging up your engine with carbon .
With Volvos I feel like you need to buy the right one, had a C30 1.6d and had nothing but issues. Now have a V60 D5 (2013 5 pot) and it’s great!, 47 mpg, 30 quid road tax, biggest charge so far was the full service, with cam belt and discs. But that’s something I’d need to do on any 100k+ mile car.
I have an s60 2.4 2011 same millage well serviced my first Volvo, the engine is fabulous the kids love to hear it growl lol 48 mpg just done a 150 mile trip in it a real pleasure
Think I'll stick with the P2 for a long as I can. Cost if running a D5 XC90 is a fair bit higher though, try >£500/year tax for starters and around 25-30mpg in town 😀
I had two p2 Volvos and both are still in use by my dad and my brother. Keep it and maintain as long as you can. Great piece of car. And very reliable
Looks like the car has been used for trailor work ? Not all Volvo drivers pull trailors . My V70 -2014 -RT -£30.00 a year ,average fuel 56 MPG , Full Volvo history If your capital wont be able to buy a Foreign ,Like Volvo ? Buy a Ford ?
My S80 over here in Ireland is €1034 py tax, mind boggling tax here...
Dang! Most of the S80’s in the USA of that time period came with a Aisin 6 speed auto and either the 3.2 i6, 3.0t i6, or the V8. All were really reliable. Gas guzzlers but reliable.
Three things in life to look after- your family, your house and your Volvo, cos then they will look after you!
My 2010 S80 only costs £30 to tax and gets 50mpg lmao. So glad I got the "Drive" model.
With the leather is cos they are soft feel for comfort which unfortunately creases. It's not worn buddy.
My 2007 S80 costs £600 a year to tax and gets 20mpg.. Worth it for the V8 goodness :D
Or you boys could split the difference with a D5 and have something a lot more reliable than the pug 1.6 (nothing but trouble in my old C30) but still with enough grunt and a nice enough noise to keep you happy most of the time (my D5 S80, 185, is £265 tax which ain't too bad! And it'll average mid-high 50's at legal speeds on long motorway runs.
Sorry you feel this way,! I've had 3 Volvo cars and love them?ps I would love 38 mpg try a c70 Volvo convertible,
Love my Volvo but will only buy Toyota going forward. Never worry about things breaking on the toyota
Volvo drive for life
If you make a mistake do not talk bad about the car. I bought one and it is amazing
My d5 V70 p3 is £164 a year
oh nice, is it a late model one?:)
I love my 2006 S60. Under 70k miles and drives like a real naughty little lady.
2 grand a year for me in tax on an xc90 v8.
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Great day dude! Yeah everything seems gg to be expensive when u bought an auction cheap car. I think just a normal wear n tear and things that need to be replaced for a 10 yr old car. I think Volvo S-series still a fairly reliable and safe car. U may find many Chinese made quality and cheaper parts at Chinese online market since Geely Corp alr own Volvo for ard 20years. There r cheaper alternative as Volvo getting more popular again nowadays!
yep volvos are crap reliability other people usually change just bearing and some electric failure like air-condition gone for 1 milion miles with Japanese cars however when they get involved in car crash with under 60 miles they look like cardboard same with BMW and low class mercedes like C class it gives you a false sense of security because you are in high class make but cant compare with over 2 tons car like S80 otherwise suspension is pretty good and tuff it takes some serious beating even you can get away with little crashes without damage hinting the pavement at high speed changed my entire rear end stats, springs and some other bars for around 2000 pounds recently Couse suspension was just to tired at 170 thousand miles it feels like a different car now when driving i also had 2 engine repairs of my 2.5T petrol 2007 p3 model due to cracked coolant houses not found on time by London mechanics and most of the electronics been replaced under the hood steering stuf ,cooling fan, all the buttons around the steering wheel including the knob with the wheel for the menu , exhaust pipes, side mirrors been unglued due to the heating inside the mirror and all regular maintenance stuff like brake disks, fluids, water pumps with cam belts. Pretty expensive car to maintain I really enjoy it but for that time i could have used the money to buy a small 4x4 Toyota or Lexus. But it is to be expected the price of a new is like a mercedes limo version and in the same time it losts its value like crazy. This is a good car for someone who make his own repairs and probably the xc70 will be the better model Couse will give you more value for storage and off-road capabilities .